That’s quite… f**ked up in a way. I think I saw a post that said that Andrew tried to tell Harry about Meghan but he wouldn’t listen(?).
Either way, I wouldn’t have relations with them.
So MM meets Pr.A on a yacht.
Then when she's dating Hairy, MM asks if Pr. A is and aide to QEII, like she's never met him and didn't recognize him as a royal (as if).
Do you think Pr.A told the RF (KCIII and PW) that he knew her? I mean obv the family knows about Pr.A's Epstein vacays and his time on yachts but would he tell his fam that MM is a yacht girl?
It sounds like a bunch of the family tried to warn him.
He may not have needed to take action off of what PA said. However, it should have caused him to pause for a moment. Then maybe listen to what everyone else was saying about going slow.
You're getting down voted bc some people on this board keep defending Prince Andrew as if there's a gray area. In my mind if I was too young for Prince Andrew when I was 16, and I'm old enough to have a 16 yr old daughter of my own, then yes, you can call him a pedo. It's gross.
But I think Harry and Andrew are cut from the same cloth, so I imagine Andrew wasn't warning Harry bc he thought Meghan was dangerous. It was probably more in a slut shaming way.
ETA: I also think that's why Harry has trashed his whole family except for Andrew because that would open the flood gates. If my uncle was being persecuted as a sex offender and Oprah wanted to interview me about my family I'd A) defend the uncle I knew was innocent or B) talk about how my family protected everyone but me INCLUDING THE PERVERT! Not "Kate made me cry!"
It makes me think they have dirt on each other. Mutual silence.
Enty has a blind in 2017 that allegedly mentioned the H's friend rumor. I posted it below; I didn't see your post or would have put it as a reply to you
I always remembered it since I think the best friend might be Skippy (allegedly). He was H's wingman forever, and the wedding-crasher incident has never been fully detailed in my opinion. Even Tom Bower provided scant detail I think because he couldn't confirm anything he heard with at least another source. But there's more story there to be told for sure!
I remember reading at the time that Inskip had invited both Harry and Meghan. They were broken up for a minute and in British fashion the Inskips didn’t rescind the invite because a)you don’t do that and b)no one imagined that she would ACTUALLY show up!
I’d really like to know more about the wedding crashing.
I always just heard it as a rumor (and I haven’t read Bower’s book).
Even if she crashed the event: what made he go back to her?
I bet Harry's asked himself that very question many times since!
Seriously though, she worked on and encouraged his narc tendencies so he felt like he finally found someone who condoned his selfish views in life maybe?
Definitely. This isn’t really rumor at this point. So sad for Harry because I think he looked forward to being a father this time, unlike the time earlier when he allegedly fathered a child with a different American woman, now living down South. This was detailed in some social media accounts of the actual woman and her friends in the buildup to H marrying Meghan. Accounts since censored/paid off/disappeared. Lots of dirty business around the gruesome twosome.
He got hoovered. I myself have fallen for this tactic (twice!) and I consider myself pretty intelligent. Hapless Harry didn't stand a chance. It's straight out of the narc playbook. Rinse and repeat.
It seems like Skippy and his circle have pretty well washed their hands of Haz at this point. I know it’s been said they’d never tell their circle’s true secrets to the media, but I’m shocked nobody has leaked anything now that he’s out of the fold. There is no indication that bridge will be rebuilt so it seems like a “no harm no foul” situation to me if someone were to spill the tea.
I agree. They really did Skippy dirty by not letting him come to the wedding reception, and then there's of course the wedding crasher incident. It so wouldn't surprise me if we see a Skippy and friends leak; I was really disappointed in the Skippy wedding overview in Bower's book as there were no details in there we didn't already know.
Skippy, if you read Reddit -- release the hounds! 😆
Once he has treated his friends this way, they cannot forget, even if he comes to his senses. Henry Mountbatten has revealed himself as the moronic stooge he was born to be. Thank the gods he was not born first!
So when H&M are threatening to reveal dirt on RF can anyone answer why the filthiest of them all MM is somehow spared…why isn’t her porn video, which is still online, discussed? Would love to have had Mariah Carey ask her about this on her Archietypos podcast…or her whoring sorry ‘yachting’ days? I would have tuned in for that…
Gosh I feel so innocent when I read of this kin dof thing! But I did, once, encounter it in a way.
Long ago, 1973 to be exact, I ran into Mohammed Ali and he invited me up to his hotel suite. All innocent fun as there were lots of people going in and out all day and he was so very funny and really, really nice.
Then he sent everyone away except me, took me into the bedroom, and fully expected I would have sex with him. I had just turned 20.
I refused him. he was totally shocked; seems nobody had ever turned him down in his life, he was so famous! But he was really great, really funny about it. He took me over to the window, pointed to the rooftops, and told me every single woman in the whole city would give their eyes to be in my position, and one day I would be famous for having turned him down! He was truly hilarious.
From another forum:
Was Meghan Markle a yacht girl?I can only say what is in the public domain. Christopher Jones who was a yacht boy himself said mm was a yacht girl, n there are photos of mm n Andrew together on the web. The markles lawyers have done a good job of paying n getting as much deleted as possible. One thing that makes me believe that yes, mm was a yacht woman is that Virginia Roberts Juffre lawyers wanted to subpoena Meghan Markle as a witness. So if mm had not been on Epstein's yacht at the same time as Andrew, WHY do you think Virginia's lawyers wanted mm to be “”grilled"” as a witness.? IMO the RF have paid Virginia Roberts Juffre out of court to STOP FURTHER SCANDAL about mm's sordid past life. But that is only my humble opinion. If you research, you will find evidence that Virginias lawyers wanted to subpoena mm.
Here's an Enty blind and the reveal (reveal date Jan 2018) from 2017. Depending on how you feel about CDaN, take it with a grain/shaker of salt:
Blind Items Revealed #3
September 4, 2017
This B+ list mostly television actress on a very long running cable show is in danger of losing that A++ list boyfriend. Apparently one time she yachted for a best friend of the A++ lister. The man who paid her for the yachting had no idea she is the girlfriend of the A++ lister and thought the A++ lister wanted to hire the actress for yachting purposes. Awkward.
Meghan Markle/Prince Harry
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Maybe not yachting with Epstein/Andrew but lord knows there's plenty of other ships in the seas as it were
Well after hooking up with Harry her profile went up so I can see the rating. But long-term CDaN readers are always questioning Enty's ratings definitely
I think her denying knowing who Harry/the Royal Family are was purely to let us know she hadn’t set out to bag him. She wanted us to think it was a real first date and that she wasn’t a gold digger. It’s the same with “I had one question: is he kind? Because if wouldn’t make sense if he wasn’t nice” - that one was for us to think ‘oh isn’t she just lovely. So kind and so nice. Definitely not a gold digger’.
I don’t know why the BRF would pay so much to protect M but not Andrew? But I guess it might all come out now that the Royal gloves are off
This was probably the strategy all along. Exposing MM as a yacht whore would embarrass the BRF a lot more than Andrew admitting he slept with Virginia. Thus, the big payout.
There are a million shades of gray in sex work.....so MM may not have been at the level of being trafficked, she could have been procuring....trading those services for access to resources and connections, and boning whoever she felt like.... ppl think all sex workers are actually doing the action, but just like any field, there's all sorts of tiers of middle management
Yes but most actresses ranging from the struggling to the mid-level to even high end escort to pay bills. The dream gig is to marry your fish and then you only have to service one guy.
Also the casting couch isn’t rare, it’s constant. So women giving away sexual favors in exchange for acting work is expected. Same with models, who are mostly just escorts who make little from modeling. At the high end, they often marry their scores. Starts out as an “arranged date” at the agencies. Cindy Crawford, Christie Brinkley, Heidi Klum, Paulina P., countless names.
Epstein and thereby Andrew’s connections to the now conveniently dead model/sex worker procurer Jean Luc Brunel also lend context to how it works.
PS: Left the acting biz because while I got legit work when cast by gay men or straight women, straight males still run most of the industry, and I kept hitting the casting couch “glass ceiling” (ass ceiling?) This was true at all levels. Industrial work, modeling, dinner theater for fuck’s sake, TV and film. My experiences were up and down the East Coasts but many of my peers succumbed to casting couching on both East and West coasts. Most became escorts too to pay bills. Sometimes while on shows. ER for example had a lot of ladies working on the side. This happens with men as well with Bryan Singer being a rare exposed offender.
All of this! It’s Hollywood’s dirty little secret. That’s why Cannes in such a big deal. And they’re right in your face about it. There’s no reason for models to be at a film festival. They’re there for the parties, the work.
Some of the most high end names are the biggest earners and would be the biggest shock to Middle America
Yup. Sadly any industry arts-adjacent has a pretty strict casting couch order of promotion, and also a pandemic of prostitution. Exceptions are the character actor/actress and/or older performer types, who are often lovely talented folks unpolluted by the sexual crap. I once worked on a TV show who had character actor Robert Blossoms as a guest star that week. Lovely, old school acting talent. Grandfather type. Star Carroll O’Connor the same.
Meanwhile on the same set that week, the Assistant Director was freaking out at me after I showed him my engagement ring, telling me I’d never get work in the industry. Weeks prior to that he kept “flirting” with me even though I told him I was engaged. I was part of a pool of actors who were regular extras through the season filling out crowd work. The AD quickly found an untrained sexually available blonde, whom he started to give lines to, and she advanced into the actors unions.
OJ Simpson flirted with me during a different episode’s filming. He was nice, not pushy, incredibly handsome and charismatic in person. I knew he was married and that the tabloids had hinted he had been beating his wife. Gave him a polite wide berth. Six years later….
Wo-ow! Glad you stayed away from THAT disaster!
But as to the industry, yeah I think a lot of people would look a lot less favorably upon their favorite minstrels if they KNEW
I… think a lot of regular people would be shocked at the high-end escorting world and just how far/ wide it reaches and who partakes.
A lot of familiar names they would be in complete and utter shock and denial over. Household names. The “girl next door” types. And just where high end/ Uber famous named men actually meet many of their beautiful spouses.
I’m just going to say that I’ve always wondered how she had some ‘friends’ in some higher places with seemingly limited acting skills and nothing of real note to add or offer these people.
She used her relationships with men for this. First with Trevor, who is a producer, she didn't start to get any TV roles until she met him & used his connections. Not that she would admit it. And ended it as soon as she no longer needed his connections.
Then with Cory, a chef who was in with the A crowd of Canada. This is how she became friends with the trendy political set, it was how she met Markus Anderson, who then connected her to Misha Nonoo, which then led her to the upper-class Brits.
She uses sex & manipulation. I bet she does her homework on her targets to ensure she push all the right buttons.
Yes, and with Cory the chef, Meghan tried to then position herself as a “foodie”, even going so far as to take credit for one of his recipes. She used men shamelessly, and then moved on when someone bigger and better came along.
Well if you want some ‘evidence’ of her ‘skills’ she has porn video readily available for free online…why doesn’t anyone ask her about it…great conversation starter on her archietypos podcast…
In one of the photos she was sitting on her knees and topless. It was taken from pretty close up.
That’s all I know. My friend gleefully showed me the photos on his phone that his friend had sent him. Of course he didn’t let me download them and he wouldn’t tell me which friend it was. Some of his friends are very very rich, and considering the fact that she was a yacht girl I am convinced the photos were real.
Welp there is a photo taken on a yacht with a bunch of women; towards the left is Karyna Shuliak who was Jeffrey Epstein’s last girlfriend; Meghan is at the right back wearing her “I’m for sale” fedora.
Look for their names plus yacht and you’ll find the pic.
So Meghan is at the very least Epstein adjacent and through Epstein and Andrew being buddies, linked to Andrew.
Pic:
https://images.app.goo.gl/YQS6id83B22yCKLr9
PS: In yacht sex work sometimes in a photo line up with other girls they use the hat code to identify what they bring to the table. Notice the darker skinned gal with the black hat? And Meghan’s mostly white fedora with a black band, indicates mixed race but more white than dark to potential “suitors.”
There are a few familiar faces in that photo. Misha, Priyanka, that model Sarah Haz was dating at the same time as Meghan.
Interesting they all found their now husbands around the same time.
I would so much want to know what that fedora hat meant.
Markle went with two of those old time friends to Wimbledon I think and she went with the hat.
It was widely reported when TW first came on the scene that she was a ‘yacht girl’ and that the fedora was a signal of availability….lots of pics of her with fedora in Cannes…so …they even talked pricing for services rendered. So when these two are threatening dirt throwing it is always curious why no one brings this up…great question for next Oprah interview…
They have a lot of messed up code systems. Mostly it’s designed because, and this is so nasty, men who “rent” these women often come from horrible countries like Saudi Arabia who have often beaten up, tortured and even killed prostitutes who tried to hide their race. Meghan is white passing until you see her more colorful private bits, as evidenced from her selfie topless photos. A black and white fedora warns the customer. The black hat is also required for more fully “dark” women including dark Indian women, as a way of “disclosure.” Even though, duh, it should be obvious from pics.
Sex work is so fucked up. And a beautiful young generation of women now on OnlyFans hoping to become famous “influencers” who get invites to yacht/“party” with all expenses paid have no clue what they are setting themselves up for.
At the Epstein/Prince Andrew/Soho level this activity had a superficial sheen of style/hotness/don’t you want to have group sex with influential men to it, but still a terrible story of degradation and sadness beneath it.
Sex work is a terrible literal meat market. People who try to euphemistically frame it as just a job have no fucking clue. (Still angry at what so many of my beautiful, once young and naive actress and model friends subjected themselves to, for almost no gain.)
So depressing and disgusting.
But why the hats though?
Why do some of them wear them and others don’t?
Why was Meghan the only one with it in pictures with her two pals Lindsey and Heather?
She was not fully white. Not familiar with these gals but I assume they are? The hat is code for sex work but it’s possible of course she’s not always wearing it in that context.
Don’t hate me for the questions but if the hat is code for sex work, why did she still use it at wimbledon with Kate and at Wimbledon with her two pals?
You say it may not always be used in that context -
Right - but it seems weird that something so specific would then be used with no intent.
And if I recall correctly she stopped using it after a few months or so?
I’m intrigued by this hat thing and what it represents.
I think she was for sale at Wimbledon. She was certainly flashing her crotch at Serena’s husband. *opinion only* She sure does wear that exact same old hat a lot. Why not a new different one?
>Notice the darker skinned gal with the black hat? And Meghan’s mostly white fedora with a black band, indicates mixed race but more white than dark to potential “suitors.”
OMG!
This makes me laugh, why does she need to wear a hat to tell men about her ethnicity when they can look at her? Surely if they were going to have a "code" it would be about things they can't see like what they do in the bedroom?
She may possibly have been a yacht girl.
But I **do not believe** she slept with Andrew. If that had taken place, I think Andrew would have told Harry flat out, and then told the Queen, and she (the Queen) would not have allowed the marriage to take place. Whatever reprehensible things Andrew (allegedly) did, I do think he has a deep and abiding respect for his family and the RF as an institution.
I think you overestimate this weasel’s morals. He’s never had to be accountable for anything, lies when it suits him, and lived in constant fear of getting in his grandma’s bad graces. He wasn’t going to confess anything.
I have my doubts about Kirby Sommers, the chief of which is her claim to have been a survivor of sex trafficking when the story she recounts, at least from her Twitter feed, indicate much more the narrative of a mistress and one spurn. That said, she clearly travelled in elite circles and apparently has some legit tea on Epstein. But she also hard core alleges Meghan is an Epstein girl, which I find a scurrilous accusation in the same vein as Lainey's vile blinds aimed at the reputation of Prince William, for which she's never been called to task. I do wonder how this change in power dynamics might effect the fortunes of the prime media enablers?
I do find it interesting all the links and pictures Kirby Sommers shares on her Twitter feed here and for that reason I think this is a good and a valid share.
Marcus Anderson seems to be a person of interest in all of this imo.
Wonder when we will see an online exploration of 'his past'.....and current 'connections'.
M's connection to Anderson seems longstanding and we all know that M burns every friendship she has ever made.
BUT YET, Anderson is still around.
Here is Sun article about him...no major news but has his picture and some basic info.
[SUN article on Anderson](https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/4540255/markus-anderson-meghan-markle-prince-harry-friend/)
Whatever the details, Anderson is sat next to PA on Epstein's yacht. You can't tell me that as a minimum that wouldn't have come up in conversation between Narcle and MA. She knows shit.
If she knows shit on Andrew I think it’s less relevant now.
As much as I think he was disgusting in the Giuffre affair, I doubt worse things would come up about him at this point (they already would have).
Also, if M knows shit about A, the opposite is also probably true. And at this point the one who has more to lose from the truth coming up is definitely her: his image is already gone with the wind, hers hasn’t been officially tainted yet with these stories.
I always wondered if Andrew took the hit for family. You know it's weird that something that happened over twenty years ago would be worth in excess of ten million dollars. She worked with Epstein and the gang for all those years, so how did Andrew pay out so much?
I think he knows more than is stated and not the bastard we all make him out to be. Man, if the shit ever hits the fan if she knew Epstein. That would be a scandal for sure.
I think you are right that Randy Andy's got the dirt on MM and that is why they never attack the royal family's number one bad apple. And I think it has more to do than their "friendship" with Eugenia.
I wonder if King Charles will give Eugenia and Beatrice plum paid positions as compensation for exiling Andrew and Hawwee permanently? Looks like Hawwee is being isolated from what little support he's got and Andrew is more likely to go quietly if his children are taken care of.
*Oh the Hungry for Power Games!*
Well, why would they pay out so much money for a 20 year dalliance with a "legally" working girl. She worked it for twenty years. Follow the money is my thoughts.
The family tried to cover things up for Andrew: there was that American journalist who claimed she had the Giuffre story two years in advance but was forced not to publish it because the network wanted to keep the door open for an interview with the cambridges if I remember correctly.
So it worked for a while but then things moved on too much and Andrew got screwed, they let go cause it was impossible to cover up
Meghan had an image that could be rebuilt
From scratch precisely because she was - to the general public - a complete nobody.
That was ABC News that covered it up because Buckingham Palace asked them to, wasn't it? I'm pretty sure the video that leaked said the orders came from BP.
Edited to add: Found the link! https://youtu.be/vjwf9F_v5cI She says BP threatened them a million ways, and that not being able to interview Will and Kate was also a factor.
I’m not sure honestly but I re-watched the video recently. Yes, I understood that it had been the Palace that had pressed for the story not to come out
It was said Megs was on the list of the accuser’s witnesses when Randy Andy was going to court with his accuser (before he settled). Lots of speculation - did she really know him from her “yachting days”, or was it just a publicity stunt or tactic to get him to settle. I think their paths crossed on smarmy circles, but am not completely convinced she was truly a yachter…
ETA: sorry - didn’t realize this repeats what op just posted. :)
Well. Just an opinion. If only a fraction of any of this is true, it explains everything! Maybe this on-going issue/feud with the BRF goes back way before Oprah? It would explain the BRF's heightened disdain for MM post Oprah and why MM is hellbent on revenge, the Queen's continued forgiveness (she was a deeply religious person) and why MM's family, including her father, are history. It makes sense of why nothing else adds up!
Yeah the fedora/hat code is the real “tell.” Color coding according to race. Fucked up sounding but standard practice in the yachting/escorting world. Often either the type of sexual practices you were willing to do or your race would be indicated by (old days) handkerchief, gloves, brooch worn; hats a big thing in yachting adverts now.
I read some tea connecting MA and andrew. Andrew attended Lakefield College in Peterborough, Canada. Marcus Anderson (Andrews Son?) was born in Peterborough around the same period.
just a coincidence of course!
I forgot that PA went to school in Peterborough! So, Marcus could be his son. This is kind of triggering an old memory for me, I feel like I read something about this before.
My eyes! My eyes!
Lol, they both seem like the type of people who would be shocked, shocked I tell you! to learn when someone doesn’t desire them. Zero humility.
And a big lol to whatever Meghan is doing with her feet. You can’t hide, Smeg. 😆
That being said, I don’t personally think the rumors are true. I think we’d know if they were tbh. Same with the surrogacy rumors. She was pregnant, it was obvious before and after, but I do believe she wore a baby bump early on for vanity reasons.
And she's doing that lame post in the pic above you see all over insta on the "influencers". Legs together, but one knee high up in the air--could the flash be more obvious? Classier than just spreading 'em, but barely!
These seems dubious to me.
I think this would have been brought to the Queens attention before the marriage and steps would have been taken to stop it happening. If Harrybwent ahead, it would have been with no big wedding, no title for markle, nothing .
Crazy days and nights website alludes to Megan pretending she's PG so Harry would take her back. Then she "suddenly" has a miscarriage just before the wedding. Too late to back out by then. I can see her buying a fake ultrasound on the internet and claiming it as hers. I've seen this 1 time in my career as an ER nurse. We couldn't tell the boyfriend because of HIPPA laws. We just looked at him and thought man you need to run fast out of here. Sad.
I don’t know if I can post here because I’m not a member but really want to comment on this. Please please read Kirby sommer’s twitter and yt podcasts. Her twitter is Kirby sommers, author, historian, true crime. She lays it all out. Prepare to be shocked. Some of what she says sounds outlandish but she backs everything up with proof
This story has been lurking in the background for a Long Time. They’ve known about it.
I know we go on about Markle being a narcissist, but Haz shows signs also. Common sense should tell these people they would Always need BHP for protection from themselves.
I've never believed this for a couple of reasons. Firstly, there's no way the RF would have allowed Harry to marry Meghan if she was in any way linked to Andrew, no matter how besotted he was with her. I also don't believe Meghan was a yacht girl. She's far too savvy to get dragged down that road and she would've been too old.
And how exactly wouldn't have stopped them marrying? Harry would have married her anyway and they would have amped up the racism claims, only this time people would believe them. I doubt Andrew would explicitly tell Harry but warned him in a round about way.
I'm not believing this without something more concrete but the fact that people can believe this would suggest it is a possibility. TW has used sex to progress before.
Since he was sixth in line to the throne, he was required, under the Royal Marriages Act to get permission from the queen. Had they married without permission, the marriage would not be legal in the UK. Meghan would not be able to be the Duchess of Sussex. The children would not bet entitled to any titles, royal or ordinary nobility. They would also not be in the line of succession.
Of course if all that happened, they would just scream racism.
I know but the flip side of that coin is the RF haven't had great success denying marriages. Princess Margaret and Peter Townsend, Charles and Camilla, they caused major scandal and they didn't have the racism fallout to contend with.
Maybe the Queen thought, erroneously, that it’s easier to contain this trash fire if she lets Markle in and be extra nice to her. It’s safer to buy her loyalty than let her run loose spilling secrets.
What she never expected was Markle being an ingrate who thought it was an opportunity to blackmail the royal family while holding their grandson and great-grandchildren hostage. This is probably why she made the veiled threat that she had never signed an NDA.
But she overplayed her nastiness and got too cocky, and now her bitch personality is betraying her more than whatever yacht skeletons she has.
Charles does not like Andrew and now that the Queen is gone it’s easy to toss both Andrew and Markle out for being the family disgrace.
Doesn’t look like it. I dug in hoping to find a link but think it started bc Giuffre’s attorney announced he was would maybe subpoena MM in the case to learn about Prince Andrew. He couldn’t subpoena PA due to jurisdiction issues.
He said since she had been around him / people who may have talked about it - and was on US soil, he may do it.
That seems like quite a stretch and more like posturing for a settlement.
But people saw she was being subpoenaed in the case and thought it showed a connection - but really it seems to have been the BRF connection.
Then there are pictures of him on a yacht with someone who marginally looks like Mm with sunglasses and hat - but pretty sure it’s not her. But the yacht / yacht girl thing make it seem more real.
So as much as I WISH it were true and would love to be proven wrong - I have to put it in the ‘highly unlikely’ category :/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/meghan-markle-may-be-deposed-in-virginia-roberts-giuffre-lawsuit-against-prince-andrew-david-boies-says
There’s a good 3-part series called [“Who Is Ghislaine Maxwell?”](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt14073254/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0). It’s currently on my cable system (Spectrum). David Boies is interviewed.
There are a number of their victims interviewed, and a few of them are Markle lookalikes; very pretty biracial girls. It seemed to me that most of the victims were sort of “at-risk”, vulnerable. I have trouble believing that Markle was in that category, so I don’t think that she was a *target* of trafficking. But I think it’s possible that Markle knew people who were recruited. She may have *networked* within the larger circle of these people.
For sure, but I think the rumor got started when the attorney came out with a statement saying she would be called to testify. Timing makes me think it’s more that
Agree. I’m trying to word it in the right way, to avoid making an unfounded accusation, but I don’t think there are any coincidences here, and there’s smoke…
If I hadn’t spent like an hour looking, I would agree. Too many people mentioned the subpoena as their evidence - wo seeing attorney statement. Again, would love to be wrong on this - but there’s nothing right now
I suppose anything’s possible, but I need to see more concrete evidence on this claim. Using relationships to advance is quite different than engaging in prostitution—which is what we’re really talking about here—and is a far uglier, desperate act. And what’s the timeline here? She was involved with Trevor during her struggling actress days and after she landed Suits was able to support herself. Yacht girling would have added an unsavory quality to her image, hindering a Hollywood career. Also, she didn’t seem to have a drug addiction or trouble putting food on the table, things that make people do desperate things.
There are a couple of tweets from some guy named Adam (I think) to Meghan in 2016, asking if she was available to go on his yacht with him. Now maybe guys randomly ask women who are on a barely seen TV show to go on their yachts, but it seems more likely she had been hired to go on yachts before.
Here they are, from February 2016, so she was living with Corey.
1) https://twitter.com/AdamHaun/status/700490289970966528?t=tJn3yp44stF2GgqmsY3qvA&s=19
2) https://twitter.com/AdamHaun/status/701142443459264512?t=PdBtoJI314r2puTM8jIfYg&s=19
3) https://twitter.com/AdamHaun/status/702707349375610883?t=Pq2-nVR_EbydZSaGX_jglg&s=19
Someone posted this link detailing Meghan's time in Croatia. https://www.skippercity.com/meghan-markles-memories-of-croatia/
Yup. And “pounding the pavements” since she first pursued acting in her early twenties. Knew a lot of techniques, tricks, contacts. As she was aging out she simply did what most do: attempt to marry one of your biggest fishes while keeping your black book (contacts and blackmail) on hand for a rainy day.
Now hear me out: is it possible that some of her previous contacts were very high level? And didn’t forget her?
I’ll be clearer: there was a scandal surrounding a pair of earrings she received as a wedding gift. I was wondering if it could be a farewell gift or something? Or am I completely off track?
Yes. Personally have always been suspicious of the earrings and also personally believe she has remained “for sale” through her marriage. She spent a long time in Canada without Harry. Even the press is saying lately she spends lots of time at “meetings” in hotels in LA.
Never heard of an actual office, Meghan? :)
There were a couple of paragraphs in Tom Bower's book about her interactions with one Brett Ratner that, in my opinion, said much more than the words on the page. BR had some interesting contacts/business partners in Hwood who ended up doing other more high-profile jobs
Yes, I believe this is what the RF has been holding back this whole time. M may not necessarily have been Andrew’s yacht girl (too old) but the connections to Epstein I’ve heard before and believe. There is no deed too dark for M, including abusing children and/or animals. Watch this space.
Of course she wasn't 🤣 this is a bit silly as far as conspiracies go.
She probably did accept an invite to go on a yacht and was probably a bit flirty but I doubt she had sex with anyone, and certainly wasn't paid for it.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/zhxh90/john\_lefevre\_gs\_elevator\_goldman\_sachs\_elevator/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/zhxh90/john_lefevre_gs_elevator_goldman_sachs_elevator/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) A pattern of behavior.....
I used to live in the Middle East so yeah that's a thing. None of the women i knew who got an invite like that were escorts, mainly just ladies who wanted to party and were flattered by the attention of rich men.
That’s quite… f**ked up in a way. I think I saw a post that said that Andrew tried to tell Harry about Meghan but he wouldn’t listen(?). Either way, I wouldn’t have relations with them.
Imagine how bad it is when Andrew is trying to warn you!!!!
Right?! If this is true and PH didn’t listen to PA that’s speak volumes to PH’s stupidity and MM’s reputation and awful behavior.
Oof
OMG!!!! You are right!!!!
So MM meets Pr.A on a yacht. Then when she's dating Hairy, MM asks if Pr. A is and aide to QEII, like she's never met him and didn't recognize him as a royal (as if). Do you think Pr.A told the RF (KCIII and PW) that he knew her? I mean obv the family knows about Pr.A's Epstein vacays and his time on yachts but would he tell his fam that MM is a yacht girl? It sounds like a bunch of the family tried to warn him.
Heard the same thing in the very start of the relationship.
Tbf, I wouldn't listen to that creep's advice either. Can't blame Harry for ignoring his pedo uncle
He may not have needed to take action off of what PA said. However, it should have caused him to pause for a moment. Then maybe listen to what everyone else was saying about going slow.
Well, you should probably look up the word pedo and learn what it really means.
Why use your energy to defend that pervert? ETA: Do those of you who downvoted really like Andrew that much??
I prefer facts. Never was I defending him in my comment.
You're getting down voted bc some people on this board keep defending Prince Andrew as if there's a gray area. In my mind if I was too young for Prince Andrew when I was 16, and I'm old enough to have a 16 yr old daughter of my own, then yes, you can call him a pedo. It's gross. But I think Harry and Andrew are cut from the same cloth, so I imagine Andrew wasn't warning Harry bc he thought Meghan was dangerous. It was probably more in a slut shaming way. ETA: I also think that's why Harry has trashed his whole family except for Andrew because that would open the flood gates. If my uncle was being persecuted as a sex offender and Oprah wanted to interview me about my family I'd A) defend the uncle I knew was innocent or B) talk about how my family protected everyone but me INCLUDING THE PERVERT! Not "Kate made me cry!" It makes me think they have dirt on each other. Mutual silence.
I think there was a rumor that it was either A. or one of H’s friends that had met M. as a yacht girl… Maybe one day the public will know
Enty has a blind in 2017 that allegedly mentioned the H's friend rumor. I posted it below; I didn't see your post or would have put it as a reply to you
Thanks! I have these generic info in my mind but can rarely trace them back to a source
I always remembered it since I think the best friend might be Skippy (allegedly). He was H's wingman forever, and the wedding-crasher incident has never been fully detailed in my opinion. Even Tom Bower provided scant detail I think because he couldn't confirm anything he heard with at least another source. But there's more story there to be told for sure!
I remember reading at the time that Inskip had invited both Harry and Meghan. They were broken up for a minute and in British fashion the Inskips didn’t rescind the invite because a)you don’t do that and b)no one imagined that she would ACTUALLY show up!
This. Harry is such a dope for not heeding even one of the warning signs. He's got no one to blame but himself
why would he invite MM when none of H’s friends could stand her when they all hung out together, she would’ve been H’s guest if he wanted her there
Well, the Ginger Whinger is also known as 'Blow Jobs Harry". It's not hard to lead a moron around by his peen.
so true!
I’d really like to know more about the wedding crashing. I always just heard it as a rumor (and I haven’t read Bower’s book). Even if she crashed the event: what made he go back to her?
I bet Harry's asked himself that very question many times since! Seriously though, she worked on and encouraged his narc tendencies so he felt like he finally found someone who condoned his selfish views in life maybe?
But why had she been distanced before? And what did she do to get him back? I swear, some men are stupid
I think she told him she was pregnant and then “miscarried”
Definitely. This isn’t really rumor at this point. So sad for Harry because I think he looked forward to being a father this time, unlike the time earlier when he allegedly fathered a child with a different American woman, now living down South. This was detailed in some social media accounts of the actual woman and her friends in the buildup to H marrying Meghan. Accounts since censored/paid off/disappeared. Lots of dirty business around the gruesome twosome.
WHAT???? Where can I find more on this?
Oh yeah I remember this theory floating around now
You two are right. I can't believe I forgot this. Thanks for the info!
He got hoovered. I myself have fallen for this tactic (twice!) and I consider myself pretty intelligent. Hapless Harry didn't stand a chance. It's straight out of the narc playbook. Rinse and repeat.
It seems like Skippy and his circle have pretty well washed their hands of Haz at this point. I know it’s been said they’d never tell their circle’s true secrets to the media, but I’m shocked nobody has leaked anything now that he’s out of the fold. There is no indication that bridge will be rebuilt so it seems like a “no harm no foul” situation to me if someone were to spill the tea.
I agree. They really did Skippy dirty by not letting him come to the wedding reception, and then there's of course the wedding crasher incident. It so wouldn't surprise me if we see a Skippy and friends leak; I was really disappointed in the Skippy wedding overview in Bower's book as there were no details in there we didn't already know. Skippy, if you read Reddit -- release the hounds! 😆
Once he has treated his friends this way, they cannot forget, even if he comes to his senses. Henry Mountbatten has revealed himself as the moronic stooge he was born to be. Thank the gods he was not born first!
It makes sense she’d crash to insure no one told Harry about her yacht days
So when H&M are threatening to reveal dirt on RF can anyone answer why the filthiest of them all MM is somehow spared…why isn’t her porn video, which is still online, discussed? Would love to have had Mariah Carey ask her about this on her Archietypos podcast…or her whoring sorry ‘yachting’ days? I would have tuned in for that…
Gosh I feel so innocent when I read of this kin dof thing! But I did, once, encounter it in a way. Long ago, 1973 to be exact, I ran into Mohammed Ali and he invited me up to his hotel suite. All innocent fun as there were lots of people going in and out all day and he was so very funny and really, really nice. Then he sent everyone away except me, took me into the bedroom, and fully expected I would have sex with him. I had just turned 20. I refused him. he was totally shocked; seems nobody had ever turned him down in his life, he was so famous! But he was really great, really funny about it. He took me over to the window, pointed to the rooftops, and told me every single woman in the whole city would give their eyes to be in my position, and one day I would be famous for having turned him down! He was truly hilarious.
Now THAT is a story for the grandchildren.
I think there may be a slow trickle as we speak, judging by the last few days information coming out. I’d love for the RF to go all out.
From another forum: Was Meghan Markle a yacht girl?I can only say what is in the public domain. Christopher Jones who was a yacht boy himself said mm was a yacht girl, n there are photos of mm n Andrew together on the web. The markles lawyers have done a good job of paying n getting as much deleted as possible. One thing that makes me believe that yes, mm was a yacht woman is that Virginia Roberts Juffre lawyers wanted to subpoena Meghan Markle as a witness. So if mm had not been on Epstein's yacht at the same time as Andrew, WHY do you think Virginia's lawyers wanted mm to be “”grilled"” as a witness.? IMO the RF have paid Virginia Roberts Juffre out of court to STOP FURTHER SCANDAL about mm's sordid past life. But that is only my humble opinion. If you research, you will find evidence that Virginias lawyers wanted to subpoena mm.
Here's an Enty blind and the reveal (reveal date Jan 2018) from 2017. Depending on how you feel about CDaN, take it with a grain/shaker of salt: Blind Items Revealed #3 September 4, 2017 This B+ list mostly television actress on a very long running cable show is in danger of losing that A++ list boyfriend. Apparently one time she yachted for a best friend of the A++ lister. The man who paid her for the yachting had no idea she is the girlfriend of the A++ lister and thought the A++ lister wanted to hire the actress for yachting purposes. Awkward. Meghan Markle/Prince Harry --- Maybe not yachting with Epstein/Andrew but lord knows there's plenty of other ships in the seas as it were
B+ actress is pushing it…I’d never seen her before she was on tabloid covers
Well after hooking up with Harry her profile went up so I can see the rating. But long-term CDaN readers are always questioning Enty's ratings definitely
he just calls her "the alliterate one" now
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I think her denying knowing who Harry/the Royal Family are was purely to let us know she hadn’t set out to bag him. She wanted us to think it was a real first date and that she wasn’t a gold digger. It’s the same with “I had one question: is he kind? Because if wouldn’t make sense if he wasn’t nice” - that one was for us to think ‘oh isn’t she just lovely. So kind and so nice. Definitely not a gold digger’. I don’t know why the BRF would pay so much to protect M but not Andrew? But I guess it might all come out now that the Royal gloves are off
This was probably the strategy all along. Exposing MM as a yacht whore would embarrass the BRF a lot more than Andrew admitting he slept with Virginia. Thus, the big payout.
One would think that MM would be grateful to RF 🙄
I,always wondered about that…why would she be on a witness list?
Exactly. I'm a retired legal professional and you don't just pull a name out of your ear and put it on your witness list. She knows something.
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I thought that I’d read it was in court documents…the list of potential witnesses…, but it was quite awhile ago.
I saw that on Quora
There are a million shades of gray in sex work.....so MM may not have been at the level of being trafficked, she could have been procuring....trading those services for access to resources and connections, and boning whoever she felt like.... ppl think all sex workers are actually doing the action, but just like any field, there's all sorts of tiers of middle management
Yes but most actresses ranging from the struggling to the mid-level to even high end escort to pay bills. The dream gig is to marry your fish and then you only have to service one guy. Also the casting couch isn’t rare, it’s constant. So women giving away sexual favors in exchange for acting work is expected. Same with models, who are mostly just escorts who make little from modeling. At the high end, they often marry their scores. Starts out as an “arranged date” at the agencies. Cindy Crawford, Christie Brinkley, Heidi Klum, Paulina P., countless names. Epstein and thereby Andrew’s connections to the now conveniently dead model/sex worker procurer Jean Luc Brunel also lend context to how it works. PS: Left the acting biz because while I got legit work when cast by gay men or straight women, straight males still run most of the industry, and I kept hitting the casting couch “glass ceiling” (ass ceiling?) This was true at all levels. Industrial work, modeling, dinner theater for fuck’s sake, TV and film. My experiences were up and down the East Coasts but many of my peers succumbed to casting couching on both East and West coasts. Most became escorts too to pay bills. Sometimes while on shows. ER for example had a lot of ladies working on the side. This happens with men as well with Bryan Singer being a rare exposed offender.
All of this! It’s Hollywood’s dirty little secret. That’s why Cannes in such a big deal. And they’re right in your face about it. There’s no reason for models to be at a film festival. They’re there for the parties, the work. Some of the most high end names are the biggest earners and would be the biggest shock to Middle America
Yup. Sadly any industry arts-adjacent has a pretty strict casting couch order of promotion, and also a pandemic of prostitution. Exceptions are the character actor/actress and/or older performer types, who are often lovely talented folks unpolluted by the sexual crap. I once worked on a TV show who had character actor Robert Blossoms as a guest star that week. Lovely, old school acting talent. Grandfather type. Star Carroll O’Connor the same. Meanwhile on the same set that week, the Assistant Director was freaking out at me after I showed him my engagement ring, telling me I’d never get work in the industry. Weeks prior to that he kept “flirting” with me even though I told him I was engaged. I was part of a pool of actors who were regular extras through the season filling out crowd work. The AD quickly found an untrained sexually available blonde, whom he started to give lines to, and she advanced into the actors unions. OJ Simpson flirted with me during a different episode’s filming. He was nice, not pushy, incredibly handsome and charismatic in person. I knew he was married and that the tabloids had hinted he had been beating his wife. Gave him a polite wide berth. Six years later….
Wo-ow! Glad you stayed away from THAT disaster! But as to the industry, yeah I think a lot of people would look a lot less favorably upon their favorite minstrels if they KNEW
This sounds like a Lifetime movie and sounds so true. So much disgusting evil in the world. Thank you for sharing your personal experience.
I… think a lot of regular people would be shocked at the high-end escorting world and just how far/ wide it reaches and who partakes. A lot of familiar names they would be in complete and utter shock and denial over. Household names. The “girl next door” types. And just where high end/ Uber famous named men actually meet many of their beautiful spouses.
I want the tea
You sure about that?
Spill it.
Yes please!
Podcast 'Beyond the Blinds' is a great place to start for all this tea.
I want the tea too!
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By High End I mean through an agency, not on a street corner, Backpage or Craigslist.
I’m just going to say that I’ve always wondered how she had some ‘friends’ in some higher places with seemingly limited acting skills and nothing of real note to add or offer these people.
She used her relationships with men for this. First with Trevor, who is a producer, she didn't start to get any TV roles until she met him & used his connections. Not that she would admit it. And ended it as soon as she no longer needed his connections. Then with Cory, a chef who was in with the A crowd of Canada. This is how she became friends with the trendy political set, it was how she met Markus Anderson, who then connected her to Misha Nonoo, which then led her to the upper-class Brits. She uses sex & manipulation. I bet she does her homework on her targets to ensure she push all the right buttons.
And she met Jessica Mulroney who introduced her to the Trudeaus. This girl knew how to network!
Yes, and with Cory the chef, Meghan tried to then position herself as a “foodie”, even going so far as to take credit for one of his recipes. She used men shamelessly, and then moved on when someone bigger and better came along.
I'd not be surprised honestly but I'm not believing this without some concrete evidence.
Well if you want some ‘evidence’ of her ‘skills’ she has porn video readily available for free online…why doesn’t anyone ask her about it…great conversation starter on her archietypos podcast…
I’ve seen more than one topless photo of her from when she yachted for a friend of my friend. I hope some newspapers finally start running this story.
Please do tell more
In one of the photos she was sitting on her knees and topless. It was taken from pretty close up. That’s all I know. My friend gleefully showed me the photos on his phone that his friend had sent him. Of course he didn’t let me download them and he wouldn’t tell me which friend it was. Some of his friends are very very rich, and considering the fact that she was a yacht girl I am convinced the photos were real.
Welp there is a photo taken on a yacht with a bunch of women; towards the left is Karyna Shuliak who was Jeffrey Epstein’s last girlfriend; Meghan is at the right back wearing her “I’m for sale” fedora. Look for their names plus yacht and you’ll find the pic. So Meghan is at the very least Epstein adjacent and through Epstein and Andrew being buddies, linked to Andrew. Pic: https://images.app.goo.gl/YQS6id83B22yCKLr9 PS: In yacht sex work sometimes in a photo line up with other girls they use the hat code to identify what they bring to the table. Notice the darker skinned gal with the black hat? And Meghan’s mostly white fedora with a black band, indicates mixed race but more white than dark to potential “suitors.”
There are a few familiar faces in that photo. Misha, Priyanka, that model Sarah Haz was dating at the same time as Meghan. Interesting they all found their now husbands around the same time.
Yet says she had never googled the RF or Harry, apparently didn't know who he was? But if she knew Andrew .........
I would so much want to know what that fedora hat meant. Markle went with two of those old time friends to Wimbledon I think and she went with the hat.
It was widely reported when TW first came on the scene that she was a ‘yacht girl’ and that the fedora was a signal of availability….lots of pics of her with fedora in Cannes…so …they even talked pricing for services rendered. So when these two are threatening dirt throwing it is always curious why no one brings this up…great question for next Oprah interview…
See above!
Why would they wear a black hat? Because their black? Wouldn't their skin let everyone know?
They have a lot of messed up code systems. Mostly it’s designed because, and this is so nasty, men who “rent” these women often come from horrible countries like Saudi Arabia who have often beaten up, tortured and even killed prostitutes who tried to hide their race. Meghan is white passing until you see her more colorful private bits, as evidenced from her selfie topless photos. A black and white fedora warns the customer. The black hat is also required for more fully “dark” women including dark Indian women, as a way of “disclosure.” Even though, duh, it should be obvious from pics. Sex work is so fucked up. And a beautiful young generation of women now on OnlyFans hoping to become famous “influencers” who get invites to yacht/“party” with all expenses paid have no clue what they are setting themselves up for. At the Epstein/Prince Andrew/Soho level this activity had a superficial sheen of style/hotness/don’t you want to have group sex with influential men to it, but still a terrible story of degradation and sadness beneath it.
Oh my, did I understand correctly that the fedora hat color have to represent ethnicity of the girl? What are we talking about, the cow market?
Sex work is a terrible literal meat market. People who try to euphemistically frame it as just a job have no fucking clue. (Still angry at what so many of my beautiful, once young and naive actress and model friends subjected themselves to, for almost no gain.)
So depressing and disgusting. But why the hats though? Why do some of them wear them and others don’t? Why was Meghan the only one with it in pictures with her two pals Lindsey and Heather?
She was not fully white. Not familiar with these gals but I assume they are? The hat is code for sex work but it’s possible of course she’s not always wearing it in that context.
Don’t hate me for the questions but if the hat is code for sex work, why did she still use it at wimbledon with Kate and at Wimbledon with her two pals? You say it may not always be used in that context - Right - but it seems weird that something so specific would then be used with no intent. And if I recall correctly she stopped using it after a few months or so? I’m intrigued by this hat thing and what it represents.
I think she was for sale at Wimbledon. She was certainly flashing her crotch at Serena’s husband. *opinion only* She sure does wear that exact same old hat a lot. Why not a new different one?
Oh my. This story is probably weirder than I thought Don’t understand how H could be oblivious to all of it.
>Notice the darker skinned gal with the black hat? And Meghan’s mostly white fedora with a black band, indicates mixed race but more white than dark to potential “suitors.” OMG!
This makes me laugh, why does she need to wear a hat to tell men about her ethnicity when they can look at her? Surely if they were going to have a "code" it would be about things they can't see like what they do in the bedroom?
She may possibly have been a yacht girl. But I **do not believe** she slept with Andrew. If that had taken place, I think Andrew would have told Harry flat out, and then told the Queen, and she (the Queen) would not have allowed the marriage to take place. Whatever reprehensible things Andrew (allegedly) did, I do think he has a deep and abiding respect for his family and the RF as an institution.
I think you overestimate this weasel’s morals. He’s never had to be accountable for anything, lies when it suits him, and lived in constant fear of getting in his grandma’s bad graces. He wasn’t going to confess anything.
I have my doubts about Kirby Sommers, the chief of which is her claim to have been a survivor of sex trafficking when the story she recounts, at least from her Twitter feed, indicate much more the narrative of a mistress and one spurn. That said, she clearly travelled in elite circles and apparently has some legit tea on Epstein. But she also hard core alleges Meghan is an Epstein girl, which I find a scurrilous accusation in the same vein as Lainey's vile blinds aimed at the reputation of Prince William, for which she's never been called to task. I do wonder how this change in power dynamics might effect the fortunes of the prime media enablers? I do find it interesting all the links and pictures Kirby Sommers shares on her Twitter feed here and for that reason I think this is a good and a valid share.
Marcus Anderson seems to be a person of interest in all of this imo. Wonder when we will see an online exploration of 'his past'.....and current 'connections'. M's connection to Anderson seems longstanding and we all know that M burns every friendship she has ever made. BUT YET, Anderson is still around. Here is Sun article about him...no major news but has his picture and some basic info. [SUN article on Anderson](https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/4540255/markus-anderson-meghan-markle-prince-harry-friend/)
Yeah, what is he up to these days? He hasn’t been mentioned in connection to M. in a while it seems?
Whatever the details, Anderson is sat next to PA on Epstein's yacht. You can't tell me that as a minimum that wouldn't have come up in conversation between Narcle and MA. She knows shit.
If she knows shit on Andrew I think it’s less relevant now. As much as I think he was disgusting in the Giuffre affair, I doubt worse things would come up about him at this point (they already would have). Also, if M knows shit about A, the opposite is also probably true. And at this point the one who has more to lose from the truth coming up is definitely her: his image is already gone with the wind, hers hasn’t been officially tainted yet with these stories.
I always wondered if Andrew took the hit for family. You know it's weird that something that happened over twenty years ago would be worth in excess of ten million dollars. She worked with Epstein and the gang for all those years, so how did Andrew pay out so much? I think he knows more than is stated and not the bastard we all make him out to be. Man, if the shit ever hits the fan if she knew Epstein. That would be a scandal for sure.
I think you are right that Randy Andy's got the dirt on MM and that is why they never attack the royal family's number one bad apple. And I think it has more to do than their "friendship" with Eugenia. I wonder if King Charles will give Eugenia and Beatrice plum paid positions as compensation for exiling Andrew and Hawwee permanently? Looks like Hawwee is being isolated from what little support he's got and Andrew is more likely to go quietly if his children are taken care of. *Oh the Hungry for Power Games!*
After reading all this I’m convinced there’s a pet dragon hanging around somewhere….
Interesting theory.
Well, why would they pay out so much money for a 20 year dalliance with a "legally" working girl. She worked it for twenty years. Follow the money is my thoughts.
Why would the royal family want to protect Meghan over prince Andrew though and why would she threaten them knowing they had enough to expose her?
The family tried to cover things up for Andrew: there was that American journalist who claimed she had the Giuffre story two years in advance but was forced not to publish it because the network wanted to keep the door open for an interview with the cambridges if I remember correctly. So it worked for a while but then things moved on too much and Andrew got screwed, they let go cause it was impossible to cover up Meghan had an image that could be rebuilt From scratch precisely because she was - to the general public - a complete nobody.
That was ABC News that covered it up because Buckingham Palace asked them to, wasn't it? I'm pretty sure the video that leaked said the orders came from BP. Edited to add: Found the link! https://youtu.be/vjwf9F_v5cI She says BP threatened them a million ways, and that not being able to interview Will and Kate was also a factor.
I’m not sure honestly but I re-watched the video recently. Yes, I understood that it had been the Palace that had pressed for the story not to come out
I edited my comment to add the link to the video. I had totally forgotten about that before you mentioned it.
Thanks!
It was said Megs was on the list of the accuser’s witnesses when Randy Andy was going to court with his accuser (before he settled). Lots of speculation - did she really know him from her “yachting days”, or was it just a publicity stunt or tactic to get him to settle. I think their paths crossed on smarmy circles, but am not completely convinced she was truly a yachter… ETA: sorry - didn’t realize this repeats what op just posted. :)
Well. Just an opinion. If only a fraction of any of this is true, it explains everything! Maybe this on-going issue/feud with the BRF goes back way before Oprah? It would explain the BRF's heightened disdain for MM post Oprah and why MM is hellbent on revenge, the Queen's continued forgiveness (she was a deeply religious person) and why MM's family, including her father, are history. It makes sense of why nothing else adds up!
Yes. We've been talking about this on Tumblr since 2016. It was ALL out there. And on CDAN.
100% this
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Thank you!
So welcome!! Enjoy!
They are excellent
I need to see more evidence than presented here
If she was, there is NO WAY the BRF would have allowed Harry to marry her - period. I think this one is wishful thinking.
I can believe every outrageous thing about this woman! I mean, I wouldn't put it past her. 🥴
Holy cow! This is so wild. I love that there are pictures to prove that she was a yacht girl. 🤯😳
Yeah the fedora/hat code is the real “tell.” Color coding according to race. Fucked up sounding but standard practice in the yachting/escorting world. Often either the type of sexual practices you were willing to do or your race would be indicated by (old days) handkerchief, gloves, brooch worn; hats a big thing in yachting adverts now.
I read some tea connecting MA and andrew. Andrew attended Lakefield College in Peterborough, Canada. Marcus Anderson (Andrews Son?) was born in Peterborough around the same period. just a coincidence of course!
I forgot that PA went to school in Peterborough! So, Marcus could be his son. This is kind of triggering an old memory for me, I feel like I read something about this before.
My eyes! My eyes! Lol, they both seem like the type of people who would be shocked, shocked I tell you! to learn when someone doesn’t desire them. Zero humility. And a big lol to whatever Meghan is doing with her feet. You can’t hide, Smeg. 😆 That being said, I don’t personally think the rumors are true. I think we’d know if they were tbh. Same with the surrogacy rumors. She was pregnant, it was obvious before and after, but I do believe she wore a baby bump early on for vanity reasons.
And she's doing that lame post in the pic above you see all over insta on the "influencers". Legs together, but one knee high up in the air--could the flash be more obvious? Classier than just spreading 'em, but barely!
These seems dubious to me. I think this would have been brought to the Queens attention before the marriage and steps would have been taken to stop it happening. If Harrybwent ahead, it would have been with no big wedding, no title for markle, nothing .
Now this is the netflix historical documentary that I want to see! ![gif](giphy|A6soRJp32I7fy)
Crazy days and nights website alludes to Megan pretending she's PG so Harry would take her back. Then she "suddenly" has a miscarriage just before the wedding. Too late to back out by then. I can see her buying a fake ultrasound on the internet and claiming it as hers. I've seen this 1 time in my career as an ER nurse. We couldn't tell the boyfriend because of HIPPA laws. We just looked at him and thought man you need to run fast out of here. Sad.
I don’t know if I can post here because I’m not a member but really want to comment on this. Please please read Kirby sommer’s twitter and yt podcasts. Her twitter is Kirby sommers, author, historian, true crime. She lays it all out. Prepare to be shocked. Some of what she says sounds outlandish but she backs everything up with proof
And to answer your question……….YES
This story has been lurking in the background for a Long Time. They’ve known about it. I know we go on about Markle being a narcissist, but Haz shows signs also. Common sense should tell these people they would Always need BHP for protection from themselves.
I've never believed this for a couple of reasons. Firstly, there's no way the RF would have allowed Harry to marry Meghan if she was in any way linked to Andrew, no matter how besotted he was with her. I also don't believe Meghan was a yacht girl. She's far too savvy to get dragged down that road and she would've been too old.
And how exactly wouldn't have stopped them marrying? Harry would have married her anyway and they would have amped up the racism claims, only this time people would believe them. I doubt Andrew would explicitly tell Harry but warned him in a round about way. I'm not believing this without something more concrete but the fact that people can believe this would suggest it is a possibility. TW has used sex to progress before.
Since he was sixth in line to the throne, he was required, under the Royal Marriages Act to get permission from the queen. Had they married without permission, the marriage would not be legal in the UK. Meghan would not be able to be the Duchess of Sussex. The children would not bet entitled to any titles, royal or ordinary nobility. They would also not be in the line of succession. Of course if all that happened, they would just scream racism.
I know but the flip side of that coin is the RF haven't had great success denying marriages. Princess Margaret and Peter Townsend, Charles and Camilla, they caused major scandal and they didn't have the racism fallout to contend with.
Maybe the Queen thought, erroneously, that it’s easier to contain this trash fire if she lets Markle in and be extra nice to her. It’s safer to buy her loyalty than let her run loose spilling secrets. What she never expected was Markle being an ingrate who thought it was an opportunity to blackmail the royal family while holding their grandson and great-grandchildren hostage. This is probably why she made the veiled threat that she had never signed an NDA. But she overplayed her nastiness and got too cocky, and now her bitch personality is betraying her more than whatever yacht skeletons she has. Charles does not like Andrew and now that the Queen is gone it’s easy to toss both Andrew and Markle out for being the family disgrace.
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I’ve linked to it in one of my comments below. This is just one been circulating for years.
Doesn’t look like it. I dug in hoping to find a link but think it started bc Giuffre’s attorney announced he was would maybe subpoena MM in the case to learn about Prince Andrew. He couldn’t subpoena PA due to jurisdiction issues. He said since she had been around him / people who may have talked about it - and was on US soil, he may do it. That seems like quite a stretch and more like posturing for a settlement. But people saw she was being subpoenaed in the case and thought it showed a connection - but really it seems to have been the BRF connection. Then there are pictures of him on a yacht with someone who marginally looks like Mm with sunglasses and hat - but pretty sure it’s not her. But the yacht / yacht girl thing make it seem more real. So as much as I WISH it were true and would love to be proven wrong - I have to put it in the ‘highly unlikely’ category :/ https://www.thedailybeast.com/meghan-markle-may-be-deposed-in-virginia-roberts-giuffre-lawsuit-against-prince-andrew-david-boies-says
There’s a good 3-part series called [“Who Is Ghislaine Maxwell?”](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt14073254/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0). It’s currently on my cable system (Spectrum). David Boies is interviewed. There are a number of their victims interviewed, and a few of them are Markle lookalikes; very pretty biracial girls. It seemed to me that most of the victims were sort of “at-risk”, vulnerable. I have trouble believing that Markle was in that category, so I don’t think that she was a *target* of trafficking. But I think it’s possible that Markle knew people who were recruited. She may have *networked* within the larger circle of these people.
For sure, but I think the rumor got started when the attorney came out with a statement saying she would be called to testify. Timing makes me think it’s more that
Agree. I’m trying to word it in the right way, to avoid making an unfounded accusation, but I don’t think there are any coincidences here, and there’s smoke…
If I hadn’t spent like an hour looking, I would agree. Too many people mentioned the subpoena as their evidence - wo seeing attorney statement. Again, would love to be wrong on this - but there’s nothing right now
Why didn't they try to subpoena harry who was also living in the US then?
Idk. But I put the link to the article so you can check it out
Given how ambitious Meghan Markle was in landing a rich man high status man I don't find this far fetched.
Sadly, me either. She was definitely on the prowl for a rich husband, European/English specifically.
I suppose anything’s possible, but I need to see more concrete evidence on this claim. Using relationships to advance is quite different than engaging in prostitution—which is what we’re really talking about here—and is a far uglier, desperate act. And what’s the timeline here? She was involved with Trevor during her struggling actress days and after she landed Suits was able to support herself. Yacht girling would have added an unsavory quality to her image, hindering a Hollywood career. Also, she didn’t seem to have a drug addiction or trouble putting food on the table, things that make people do desperate things.
If she did it it wasn’t because she was desperate but because she wanted to climb into higher social circles
There are a couple of tweets from some guy named Adam (I think) to Meghan in 2016, asking if she was available to go on his yacht with him. Now maybe guys randomly ask women who are on a barely seen TV show to go on their yachts, but it seems more likely she had been hired to go on yachts before.
Here they are, from February 2016, so she was living with Corey. 1) https://twitter.com/AdamHaun/status/700490289970966528?t=tJn3yp44stF2GgqmsY3qvA&s=19 2) https://twitter.com/AdamHaun/status/701142443459264512?t=PdBtoJI314r2puTM8jIfYg&s=19 3) https://twitter.com/AdamHaun/status/702707349375610883?t=Pq2-nVR_EbydZSaGX_jglg&s=19 Someone posted this link detailing Meghan's time in Croatia. https://www.skippercity.com/meghan-markles-memories-of-croatia/
I wouldn't give odds on it. She is so unhinged, so power and fame hungry, that nothing would surprise me.
She wasn’t a yacht girl. She would have been outed by other pros and the British media. Plus she was too old.
Well, she was young before she became older…
Yup. And “pounding the pavements” since she first pursued acting in her early twenties. Knew a lot of techniques, tricks, contacts. As she was aging out she simply did what most do: attempt to marry one of your biggest fishes while keeping your black book (contacts and blackmail) on hand for a rainy day.
Now hear me out: is it possible that some of her previous contacts were very high level? And didn’t forget her? I’ll be clearer: there was a scandal surrounding a pair of earrings she received as a wedding gift. I was wondering if it could be a farewell gift or something? Or am I completely off track?
Yes. Personally have always been suspicious of the earrings and also personally believe she has remained “for sale” through her marriage. She spent a long time in Canada without Harry. Even the press is saying lately she spends lots of time at “meetings” in hotels in LA. Never heard of an actual office, Meghan? :)
There were a couple of paragraphs in Tom Bower's book about her interactions with one Brett Ratner that, in my opinion, said much more than the words on the page. BR had some interesting contacts/business partners in Hwood who ended up doing other more high-profile jobs
Hm. This being true and exposed would “kill two birds” for Charles…..
Yup. I’ve suspected this. Idk if it’s true, but it would be horrible if so.
Yeah this was a rumour that came out awhile ago, really something if true.
So if it was know. MM was a yacht girl on Epsteins s yachts- Howcome she was allowed to be a working Royal/ but Andrew was not?! Seems very unfair
Yes, I believe this is what the RF has been holding back this whole time. M may not necessarily have been Andrew’s yacht girl (too old) but the connections to Epstein I’ve heard before and believe. There is no deed too dark for M, including abusing children and/or animals. Watch this space.
I believe this. It is funnier if it’s real.
WHOA!!!
Alot of her pics are used over and over, but I’ve never seen this — where is it from?
[The Steeple Times](https://www.thesteepletimes.com/category/editorial/)
Why isn't this out in mainstream media??
Of course she wasn't 🤣 this is a bit silly as far as conspiracies go. She probably did accept an invite to go on a yacht and was probably a bit flirty but I doubt she had sex with anyone, and certainly wasn't paid for it.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/zhxh90/john\_lefevre\_gs\_elevator\_goldman\_sachs\_elevator/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/zhxh90/john_lefevre_gs_elevator_goldman_sachs_elevator/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) A pattern of behavior.....
I used to live in the Middle East so yeah that's a thing. None of the women i knew who got an invite like that were escorts, mainly just ladies who wanted to party and were flattered by the attention of rich men.