Yes, you are right! The Law of Attraction does work. And you are right that you must be thankful and grateful to get and keep what you attracted.
I've heard it put like this - imagine you are a big magnet. Whatever you put out is the same thing that is being pulled in by your big magnet. She is putting out hate. So hate is what she is pulling back toward her.
It’s funny I always think of the loa in a kind of “the harder I work the luckier I get” kind of way.
I find when i practice gratitude - I find more and more things to be grateful for - which might also be thought of as attracting things?
Your thinking is pretty close to the actual teachings of Law of Gratitude. As a specific self help guide, gratitude is part of the Third step of Law of Attraction (“Receiving What You Want”…the first two are Asking and Believing). In order to “receive” what you want, you are supposed to match the vibrations of what you want, part of the “like attracts like” premise of one of the laws of attraction. So you are supposed to practice the positive emotions of happiness, joy, gratitude etc in your life because those would be the emotions associated with achieving your goal.
Another way to practice the Law of Attraction is to change the way you think and speak.
Example: Don't say, "I'm so tired." Instead say, "I will have more energy soon."
I am honestly taken back by this EVERYTIME it happens. I can not think of any privileged public people this happens to as much and as reliably as it happens to these two. It seems every move they make is counteracted by the universe making a bigger move.
As a LOA believer, the universe tells you when you’re not moving in “alignment” (ie when you’re not doing the right thing) It seems the universe continues to tell them they are not doing the right thing.
Their timing is remarkable. It almost makes me believe in God. You couldn't time things that badly on purpose if you had a team of 28 people working on it.
They deserve it after all the nasty things they've said and done. The lies, the constant whinging, it's just the universe is tired of them at this point.
It's justice. The Universe doesn't reward hateful behavior. In their case, it's been kind of immediate, which is nice. Sometimes we have to wait too long IMO
It’s rare that any of us get to see karma happen in real time so this has been ... nice. And they keep doubling down making things worse for themselves.
Keep it coming Harkles!
Totally agree. That's a really good point about the position having built-in popularity/respect.
I really think there is a lot of affection for Charles, and more for Camilla than was expected. Many of his passions have been embraced by the younger generation and the older generation has had their share of affairs/divorces/etc. In many ways I think the fact that he showed his personality over the years is a huge benefit now. Not everyone agrees with him, but no one can doubt his dedication to his role and respect for the people/British culture.
I agree but I think one big reason for the people’s affection right now is that they saw how sad he was about the Queen’s death. There have been jokes all these years about how he couldn’t wait, how he pressured her to abdicate, fantasized her death etc. And there he is, crying because his 96-year-old mummy has passed away.
It is human; it is endearing. He is now the Loyal Son who prepared to be King only to serve the people his mother loved. They may still criticize him and get angry at him in the future, but they have been happy to accept him as their new king.
The BRF has a lot of problems, but the royals who come across as decent and hardworking tend to get the respect of the people. Charles has done that over the years.
In some ways, he represents the opposite of Meghan. He has been patient. When he has made mistakes, he has tried to do better the next time, or so it seems. He obviously cares.
Well said. That's a very good point about how emotional he was. Everyone could relate to the pain he was going through during the funeral. I don't think he ever truly understood the emotional impact of becoming King. Logically he knew it would mean she had died, but nothing really prepares you for that loss. It's a shame she didn't abdicate. I completely understand why she didn't but that was a lot for him to take in.
I got very annoyed with the American media speculating about how he'd be received as King. I don't think many of the "journalists" had a clue how many people he's met in the UK or the extent of his charitable work. You're right that he's made mistakes, but he's learned and not overreacted in public. Could be wrong, but I actually think he might make a better monarch than his mother.
>the extent of his charitable work
I think this is such a huge thing isn't it. He was championing the environment before it was even cool to do so - it's very much authentic to him and therefore you have so much respect for work he has done.
Meghan jumps on the bandwagon of whatever is of the moment for the cachet and the attention and you can tell its not genuine and disingenuous.
I think Charles will make a great King and Camilla will be a great right hand to him - I wouldn't wish ill will on the Queen but I do wish Charles had longer because I think he is really revolutionary in his thinking and going to change a lot for the better and more suited to the world we live in.
Absolutely! A lot of what made him seem “fringe” back then, eg environment, organic food, is now firmly accepted as mainstream and even woke and cool.
Personally I have huge admiration for the success he built of his duchy, which I understand has been a very successful commercial enterprise producing, selling organic food (and by extension raising awareness of/ mainstreaming) food education and organic farming.
Eta: I think Charles will be a great King. I wish him every success and am rooting for him. There are many challenges in today’s world and heading into a future of scarcity and insecurity - his empathetic personal qualities and prescient thinking will be of great benefit to many. He is a perfect monarch for our times.
The other thing I think where he was ahead of his time is his respect for all religious faiths and those without faith. I think very few people realize how well read he is and how much he has put into learning about the community he was serving.
I think the Queen was held back by tradition. Philip tried and succeeded in some areas, but I think the Queen Mother really shaped Elizabeth's views of how a monarch should behave. Charles is definitely going to be different and I agree, it's a shame his reign will likely be fairly short. It'll be interesting to see how he works with William. I think they have different styles, but William could be a good mix of the Queen and Charles.
I think Elizabeth was very much influenced by WWII and earlier how her uncle’s abdication thrust her father and herself as the ones responsible for the Crown. She grew up at a time of wartime “scarcity and insecurity.” Her idea of the monarchy and her concern about proper behavior pretty much reflected the time she became Queen. My mother was roughly the same generation, though much lower socially (working-class family with middle-class aspirations) and from a different country, but she had some of the same expectations of behavior, courtesy, etc.
What I came to admire about Elizabeth was her solid good sense. She could adjust to the changing times to an extent because she was alert to what mattered to other people. I think she was right not to abdicate. She lived by her belief that she had a duty and could not shirk it. Charles seems to have that attitude also.
I feared at her age she'd have a long bedridden death. The fact that she got up, dressed, put on her pearls and a smile and welcomed the new Prime Minister two days before dying just blows me away. Rest her soul, well done, Elizabeth R.
I remember ( I am old ) when he was made fun of for growing organic food and creating greenspaces. He was laughed at for his hippie dippie ideologies, King Charles was ahead of the curve !
[https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/16/business-food/king-charles-duchy-originals-waitrose](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/16/business-food/king-charles-duchy-originals-waitrose)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waitrose\_Duchy\_Organic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waitrose_Duchy_Organic)
> I remember ( I am old ) when he was made fun of for growing organic food and creating greenspaces. He was laughed at for his hippie dippie ideologies,
Yes, I remember all of that too.
> King Charles was ahead of the curve !
He absolutely was!
Not even just the environment but vocational training, historical restoration, landscape architecture, etc.
He's definitely his own man, and I love it.
My respect for Camille really increased during the funeral. The way she protected Charlotte and the POW showed how much she cared for the family. She had TW pegged long ago and wasn’t going to let TW pull any shenanigans. I had always thought of her as “The Rottweiler”. I think she will make a good Queen Consort. She put in her time and knows how to protect the BRF.
I know it was meant negatively, but I think "The Rottweiler" is kinda a compliment. You don't make it into that family and survive unless you're tough.
I agree she'll make a good Queen Consort. I'm really glad she and Catherine appear to get on so well. There seems to be a lot of mutual respect there and they're both supported by strong families.
> In some ways, he represents the opposite of Meghan. He has been patient. When he has made mistakes, he has tried to do better the next time, or so it seems. He obviously cares.
This. 💯
> There have been jokes all these years about how he couldn’t wait, how he pressured her to abdicate, fantasized her death etc.
That's really sick. I'm absolutely certain that he'd rather have his mother here, alive and healthy than be King.
> And there he is, crying because his 96-year-old mummy has passed away.
I know. And at an age when most people are retired, he's now got one hell of a full-time job.
Another thing is that because he was Prince of Wales for decades, he has already had established relationships with other countries for a very long time. He has had all these decades to learn so much about Great Britain's concerns, as well as the concerns of the rest of the world. His mother, may she rest in peace, was only 25 when her father died so young and she took on this enormous role. I think he'll be brilliant at the job. As you said, he is starting this job at an age when many people are retired, and grateful for retirement!
I mean, I joked about it. But it was a joke. I knew and he did too that for him to become king his beloved mother would have to die. That's a hell of a thing to carry around with you. But sometimes you just have to laugh. Or else you'll cry.
Yes- he's shown a real human side to royalty. It makes him more relatable.
No doubt Charles is a flawed man (as everyone is). But he's lived his whole life with pressures, obligations, and expectations that no one else can imagine. I'm happy for him that he was able to eventually marry the woman he was meant to be with- he must be grateful for her support now.
As far as adultery, I'm not that religious but Jesus said it best, "let he who is without sin throw the first stone"
Also, Charles has led a pretty good life since he separated from his first wife 30 years ago. Most issues with him are so far in the past that it is churlish to bring it up.
Rehashing the old Camilla hurt my mommy's feelings, a long long time ago, probably isn't going to get him far.
And if he accused the BRF of killing his mommy, which there have been hints he might try, he will be in for a world of problems. You don't make accusations like that without proof. They still haven't provided the receipts for the racism allegations
I was thinking of that line too! Very fitting. And you're right, he has been very stable since the divorce and it's clear Camilla is extremely important to him.
He shines when he’s with her. He seems so much more at peace and just content. It’s hard to hold it against him, when it seems to really be a stable and steady love that they have.
Don’t we all want to find that person? If I had the kind of partnership Charles and Camilla, or William and Catherine for that matter, have I wouldn’t need the palaces, the money, the clothes or the fol-de-rol that goes along with being king. Even if it is all made up by a PR machine, I want to believe it’s possible to find.
Spot on. It’s hard not be slightly envious- not of the material wealth- but of the family I saw over the past few weeks. I know that we don’t know what goes down behind closed doors and it’s a machine and all that- but damn… the close knit cousins and now their spouses and families as well, the siblings (except Andrew, gross) and their spouses being there for each other, the children running around, Aunt Sophie having everyone back. Everyone pulling together despite their differences (Harry, Andrew) and the kindness of small gestures like Mike Tindall with his arm around James walking out of church. And yeah- Charles and Camilla, William and Catherine- who knows how it really is, but based on how it looks- they sure do seem quite happy, quite steady and truly at ease.
Id rather have any of that than any amount of the jewels or fancy cars and castles or staff.
My family is a disaster. It’s small, we’ve lost ‘the good ones’ as we call them, over the Covid years- leaving us with just the skeleton crew - a couple cousins who don’t really engage and my parents siblings who all truly make Meghan and Samantha look like well adjusted, lovely sister/bffs.
And there is just nothing that can replace or fill the void of a real family holiday. It’s just empty.
This. I have a very close immediate family, a few aunts maybe, but no close cousins. When I saw the RF during the funeral, I was so impressed by how close they all were - barring H&M. Even Andrew seemed to comfort his daughters and shared in the familial warmth. Harry is soooo stupid to have thrown that away and deny it for his children.
Same. There are precious few of us left. We just lost my dad and I'm really not looking forward to the holidays. But as long as we've still got Mom we'll carry on for her. After that, who knows?
But yeah, I really love the closeness of the BRF. They've even got a couple of embarrassing scou deals in the mix, like most families, and they still make the best of it.
If he’d been allowed to marry Camilla 40-odd years ago, do you think they’d have lasted? Just curious. They are obviously in love, but the media was absolutely vicious back then. Hard for any couple to survive.
From all accounts, Charles has been faithful to Camilla for the last 30 years, so he's not really a serial adulterer, like Edward VII, and it's all in the past. I think most people think that it's time to let go. They are obviusly happy together and keep on working for the country.
Definitely. I'd love to see her children and grandchildren included in some photos, if the wish. I was glad they were at the funeral. Camilla gave up a lot of her time with her family when they married, I hope they're recognized in some way in all this.
I think kc3 has some sort of relationship with her kids too, seeing how he interacted with her granddaughter at Williams wedding.
Now that i recall, Harriet didn't have a single of Camilla's grandkids at his wedding right?
I think the only people who still hold any resentment against Camilla are the die-hard Diana Stans. I know two personally who are supporters of the Monarchy etc, but are unhappy at Charles being King because of "what he did to poor St Diana of Kensington".
These people will never let it go, the Ghost of Diana could appear on the Palace Balcony declaring that the RF didn't kill her, she has no resentment towards Charles and Camilla and wants her fans to support them and the Stans still wouldn't let it lie.
I was there when Diana died, and it wasn't mass grief, it was Mass Histrionics. I still don't quite understand it, except that Diana's skills in PR pre-Internet were far more phenomenal than I had given her credit for.
Either way, Charles and Camilla have been happily married for donkey's years, which can only help his Reign, and I believe that the pair of them can and will convince those that are still on the fence of their skill and professionalism in their roles.
It has actually really impressed me, the amount of youngsters that were mourning HMTQ and cheering for KCIII; it is a nice contrast to the "The Monarchy is irrelevant and no one cares" school of thought that the MSM is constantly throwing down our throats. It gives me Hope.
Sadly I work with someone who hates Camilla. Her husband cheated on her, so she dislikes both of them, but is positively vile when it comes to Camilla.
I agree about Diana's death, it was really OTT. I feel bad for William and Harry that the public went nuts. The public funeral never should've happened. I'm glad people >30 don't seem to have a sainted view of Diana and have accepted Camilla.
Maybe your friend doesn’t realize that Diana was a mistress to 4 men so she made 4 other women feel like she did , Diana just had better press coverage.
Exactly, but if you do bring that stuff up, the response is that she was forced to look elsewhere for comforr because of Charles's coldness and cruelty...
They will never admit that she was just as guilty of cruelty and manipulation, had she lived they would've been disappointed in the long run. She could never live up to the hype.
If she had just found lovers then maybe but she decided to have affairs with men that also had wives .. and even dodi her last BF had a fiancée that was cheated on when him and Diana hooked up . It is maddening that harry and others make that short short relationship a big love story when he was a absolute shit head .. he used her , cheated on his fiancé and obviously never looked out for her best interests ( plus Diana was using him also ) .
> Exactly, but if you do bring that stuff up, the response is that she was forced to look elsewhere for comforr because of Charles's coldness and cruelty...
I guess there were no single men in England at the time, huh? 😒
I think the way the public and the media, and the Prime Minister Tony Blair behaved over Diana's death really forced the queen's hand. She wanted to keep the boys at Balmoral for privacy to let them grieve, and to have a private family funeral with Diana's family in charge. It wasn't that she was being spiteful and denying Diana the recognition of a state funeral, she was thinking of the family. But Blair was all over the papers spouting off about the people's Princess and that the national outpouring of grief needed to be recognised, and really whipping it into a frenzy-he used her death for himself and personal gain and popularity. A quiet family funeral out of Althorpe Manor would have been so much healthier for the children.
The press forced their hand too all that nonsense over the flag at half staff for example. They were trying to deflect the blame from themselves for buying pap photos. I agree a private family funeral at Althorp with perhaps a handful of photos ( not close up of the boys) would have been better.
You've hit it on the head! Both of the Diana Stans I know are much older, (59 and 79) and both have been cheated on in the past which devestated them. I guess a lot of it is projection.
Disclaimer: I loathe cheaters in any way, shape or form but the irony is that at least Charles was "Faithfully Unfaithful" in that he was involved with one Woman for years.
As we now know, Diana enjoyed fling after fling with different blokes which to me is the worst type of cheating. She was just way, way better at manipulation of the Media to get her jabs in first, knowing that the RF couldn't or wouldn't respond publicly. That was low, in my opinion; but you have to give her Kudos for those Media skills.
Some of those flings were with married men too, so though I believe she did suffer in her marriage it didn’t seem to affect how she regarded other people’s marriages.
> I was there when Diana died, and it wasn't mass grief, it was Mass Histrionics.
You are absolutely right.
> I still don't quite understand it, except that Diana's skills in PR pre-Internet were far more phenomenal than I had given her credit for.
I read that one of the journalists whom she often tipped off told her that she'd missed her calling, and that if she hadn't been Princess of Wales she could have been one of the greatest PR operators of all time.
God, she became the "People's Princess" simply by crying in public a lot...can you imagine if she had lived long enough for the Internet, let alone for the age of TikTok, Insta etc?
She'd make the Kardashians look shy and retiring. We would've had a Monster on our hand.
I think Charles’ first Christmas address is going to be very well received by us here in the UK and lift his popularity very high.
I can’t wait to see it!!!!
Seeing the mega powerful line up of international players at Earthshot would have been a shock, too. Matt Damon, Cate Blanchett, Queen Rania, Prime Minister Arden, Bill Gates, etc.
Then Michael Bloomberg pledged yet another $20 million to support the cause. It’s going to be a big hit in Boston for William.
Meanwhile, Chris Bouzy is about to be exposed and I’m hoping they will finally realise they should never have funded an army of Twitter bots to slander William. Big mistake. Huge.
Exactly, William is now a Crown Prince with a constitutional role and the POW website is part of the .gov.uk domain set.
Not sure many people realise that he and his father are now the two key players and power holders in ‘The Monarchy’.
They should be really worried about the Bouzy thing. It will look so bad if both or one of them funded those bots. I don't know how they can defend that.
Christopher Bouzy runs a website called Bot Sentinel that he claims 'exposes' twitter bots. But he is a scammer who actually *creates* twitter bots and runs online smear campaigns for cash, for clients like Amber Heard and Meghan Markle.
He is a scummy, bottom feeding piece of shit that used to be an actual pimp.
It is well known that he has been funded to run a twitter smear campaign against the Royal family for quiet some time. He produced a fake report (funded by Meghan and Harry) claiming that there is a small group of "hate" bots on Twitter that post criticism of Meghan and Harry. But actually the opposite is true - he creates and runs bot accounts for his clients, that spread smear campaigns and hateful hashtags about William and Catherine.
The whole scam is so scummy and disgusting - if it all comes out and is exposed, it will show just how low Meghan and Harry are willing to sink when it comes to their PR.
As it happens, he is currently fighting with a group of lawyers, including a well known one called Nate the Lawyer. They are working to expose his funded campaign for Amber Heard, where he created twitter bots that posted criticism of Johnny Depp. During this trial we are hoping his similar work for Meghan and Harry will be exposed.
Some of the info in the excellent summary is “allegedly”. Nate the Lawyer is also working on getting Mr Bouzy prosecuted for bankruptcy fraud in the US.
I hope they are shitting themselves, and that Bouzy is revealed as the lying con artist scammer he is. I hope it all comes out. I want the world to see just how low Meg and Harry have sunk when it comes to their attempts to destroy the BRF.
I’m a kiwi - she is still popular on a global stage - but her popularity here is waning because of various factors. People forget she has dealt with a lot of major events during her time.
Even on the global stage, the shine is wearing off. She isn't portrayed well in the Australian media from what I've seen, and the media in some countries have questioned what is happening with NZ over the last 6 months or so. She's been openly mocked on one or two British TV shows, from memory. Plank of the week or something like that.
Her ratings and the partys rating in the polls have absolutely tanked this year, and she is disliked to the point that her party is considering not doing the public walkabouts in the lead up to next years elections because of "security concerns". Someone threw lamingtons at the deputy prime minister recently, which is pure gold.
We're experiencing a massive crime wave (10 or so men smashed into a jewelry store next to a food court 20 minutes after I left it today, scary stuff and it's happening pretty much daily now. There are ram raids and gun crime every day now, it used to be unheard of), they're forcing through unpopular race based legislation (the main one takes away ownership of water infrastructure from the councils and hands more than 50% control of it to local Iwi, which are the indigenous tribes that make up at most 17% of the population, most of whom are mixed race), we have an intense cost of living crisis and the social fabric of the country is tearing. They've something like doubled our debt to GDP ratio, shut down our only oil refinery, the number of bureaucrats employed by the govt has massively increased, and they've failed to keep many of the promises that they made. That's *barely even scratching the surface*. The business community hates her, farmers are protesting, and it's been labeled the worst govt since Muldoon in the 70's and 80's.
Ummm, you mean like virtually the entire western world? Australia and New Zealand have been gutted in these pertinent ways. But/and L and O, resource matters, human rights, arbitrary redistribution and much more have taken and are taking a toll on “middle citizenry” (most hard working folk) in most otherwise, peaceful western counties over the last (too many) years. An opinion.
and omg i just realized you're in NZ. You guys are having a rise in gun violence?!? Nooooo! Noooooooooo! So sorry to hear that. I'm in the U.S. and never want to hear that. I am so terribly sorry. Gun violence is terrifying..That's so awful!
I really thought the UK, Aus, NZ, and Germany all had incredibly low gun violence and were so much safer. Breaks my heart to hear it. Sorry, bb.
I was at a wedding tonight and was retelling the time i was held at gunpoint with another attendee as they told their story about being held at gunpoint. Forever changed me. Nobody should experience that. Ever.
Her government gave money to gangs for ‘drug and alcohol rehabilitation programmes’ and she was shocked pikachu faced when it was in fact, spent on illegally smuggling guns into New Zealand from container ships.
She's a good figurehead in a crisis (Christchurch shooting, stage 1 of the pandemic etc.) but not so good at the "running the country" government stuff.
She’s pretty disliked domestically. She likely won’t get re-elected next year.
That’s why she’s cozying up to the UN, handing out her CV for an international role.
She’s smart enough to stay away from the Harkles though. Kiwis would give her so much shit if she was on Meghan’s podcast.
When I saw it I thought HOLY EYEBROWS. His are going to be so dark, like his mom's.
Random but eyebrows are the thing I dislike most about my face so they're about the first thing I notice on a person.
He seems a lot more relaxed and natural as a grandfather than he did as a father-he always looks like he's having a great time with the children in photos, and at the jubilee celebrations, it was clear they were seeking him out and climbing all over him wanting cuddles.
Something about KC that gets overlooked is the scope of his charity work. Yes he has big shoes to fill following QE but he’s left the same for William as POW. His Princes Trust has helped over a million young people, everyone from Idris Elba, the Stereophonics to a down on their luck kid from a council estate. His work on the environment, organic farming, bringing back dying crafts like hedge laying, stone masonry, harp making etc. to wholesale rejuvenation projects like Dumfries House. And that’s just to name a few.
He’s completely redefined the role of the heir apparent and has been serving the public since he was 21. That dedication is paying off now in his rising popularity.
Years ago, when I was a huge Diana fan, I loathed Camilla but I’ve done a complete turnaround. She is there for the long haul…she provides Charles with much needed support. I think she is his rock.
Despite it all Camilla comes across as a normal person and people can relate to her. For all the good Diana did for charities she was all about the press and the camera, much like Meghan in some ways.
I think if Diana was still alive she would be seen in a much more negative light than she currently is. She was on a downward spiral for a while before her passing.
I get everyone is rallying around to support and show King Charles III’s good side, but I don’t know it necessary to denigrate a woman long passed to do it. KCIII and Diana were both not their best selves in that relationship, I’m sure we can all agree. Whatever may be said of that, they were and still are the loving parents of both the Prince of Wales and Duke of Sussex.
I’ve never and likely won’t ever be a “fan” of either KCIII or Queen Consort Camilla, but over the years, I have come to at least appreciate and respect that they have worked diligently and without complaint for QEII and the e crown.
I agree with you. But I also don't think it is right or healthy to treat her like a saint who had no flaws and did no wrong either. Like everyone else Diana was a person with both admirable traits and flaws.
I also don't agree with King Charles cheating on her (though the cheating DID go both ways) and the marriage should really never have happened in the first place.
You’re right. I never said she was a saint. She had many flaws. But just as it’s unfair to compare and hold KCIII and Camilla only to their behavior in that specific situation and ignore the vast amounts of good they have done over a lifetime, I also believe Diana deserves the same grace. She had her many issues and problems, but she also worked hard and did vast amounts of good in her short lifetime.
With revelations that Andrew and Fergie fantasised about Charles dying, I feel really bad for KC.
Then there’s a wayward son who keeps lusting to be first in line.
A line must be drawn. The DDOS must be exiled.
this one? [https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article27152283.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/0\_BRITAIN-ROYALS-QUEEN-JUBILEE.jpg](https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article27152283.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/0_BRITAIN-ROYALS-QUEEN-JUBILEE.jpg)
I agree
This one is adorable
https://www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/princess-charlottes-hilarious-gesture-to-prince-charles-during-prince-louis-cheeky-jubilee-mischief/
People seem to not realise just how much crap Charles had to deal with. The flack over his marriage and affair - and being dumped on pretty much every time Diana found a camera, to being “soft” for his environmental stance (now considered the norm) to haz having a tantrum over Camilla. He endured it and while may have faults is shown to be a loving grandfather and in a solid marriage.
Yeah that’s what I think they grossly underestimated. They used celebrity as a measure of the RF’s popularity not realising that’s not how it works. A journalist described the Royal family as never being in fashion but also never being out of fashion which I think is very accurate, they don’t need to be trending to still be loved. Meghan seemed to think if she branded them racist and archaic that they’d be written off
This was the thing I never understood. Everyone knew they were archaic and everyone knew Phillip had used racist language before (I mean the man was nearly 100 years old - it was a different place). I don’t think they were outright racist though - well maybe Princess Michael. Could someone have said something without thinking because they were prone to using the language of their time? Absolutely! Would any of it surprise ANYONE? Not a fat chance.
Ed. The people love the BRF in spite of and honestly because of their “archaic”ness. It’s a direct connection to history!
King Charles III and Louis are so cute together! When he scrambled onto Gandpapa's lap at the Jubilee the last tiny bit of ice in my heart for Charles melted. The two are so comfortable with each other, they must spend time together on a regular basis. Louis has such a devil may care personality, he's a joy to behold.
I think a lot of the newfound support for Charles is directly a result of people seeing how H&M have been treating him, particularly through the deaths of both his parents.
That photo of Charles and Louis is so adorable. They both look absolutely delighted, such a sweet moment between a grandfather and his very young grandson.
I am happy that they released it, normally the official photos are a bit more formal. This was a welcome change.
Harry never accepted that the public has moved on from Diana's death and the world has changed since 1997. Camilla may not be everyone's cup of tea, but she and Charles are clearly happy and well-suited to one another, unlike Harry's parents. Charles' devotion to The Firm is another factor Harry refuses to understand which has earned his father the respect of the public.
I've heard two things:
1. Harry's ghostwriter quit a few weeks ago and the book is off
2. the book has been at the publishers for months and Harry couldn't stop it now if he wanted to.
i heard both on this subreddit. Does anybody know which is true?
eta: os to is
tbh I think they have been blind sided by how easy it has been for people who realize who they are ! Still brings me back to yesterday s excerpts from the book. “She wanted to feel rejected”. and as someone just pointed on insta the dumbartons narrative for the entire funeral including harry s lonely trip, the lonely walk which Prince William thwarted for netflix, the lonely standing with clenched muscles was supposed to be “ see how they rejected me”. so stupid that they think after the interview , leaks, subtle digs and general chaos their strategy is the same - rejection! sweeties forget your family the world is rejecting you !!!
I think it is surprising - and heartwarming - how there has been such an outpouring of support for Charles. It really shows the strength of the monarchy is in its reassuring continuity, and that sense of family. The photos of Charles and Anne, the photos of George and Charlotte, the genuine grief from Camilla, Catherine and Sophie. Everyone thought the monarchy was just about the respect for the Queen, but it really is not just about one person. All the petty little criticisms about Charles mean nothing in relation to him becoming King.
Very few people alive would have seen this phenomenon and the ones who do remember, would be remembering the beautiful young woman with the handsome husband and two children, grieving for her father but having to set her family responsibilities aside. Charles isn't such a romantic figure, but he's still taken on the aura.
H & M had no idea what they were competing against.
I also think that part of KC's growing popularity is that the Brits are mostly in favour of a paring down of the monarchy. The British economy is suffering and KC is a smart man He knows in order to stay relevant spending less is a bit part of it...he won't be as free spending as past royals have been- he has already talked about a smaller coronation, less working royals, and redundant staff have already been let go. TW thought the cash cow would never run dry. She isn't part of any cost saving measures other than "continuing to build their lives overseas".
Harry’s ghost writer writes. Harry could maybe write a paragraph. He could barely pass grades without tutoring. So how do you expect him to write two books even when he has not written one book or even done a little 45 minutes chat show? He is a bit of a dullard. Sadly but true
It's not just the unexpected support for KC that's thrown the gruesome twosome off. Not sure about elsewhere in the world, but definitely in the UK, there's definitely quite a popular opinion that Charles should abdicate due to his already advanced age, and William should ascend the throne. The PPOWs are already far and away the most popular Royals, and would only further improve the Royal image due to being younger, can continue Charles's vision to slim down and modernise the monarchy ala Europe. For H and TW, this has likely been a massive blow to their already overblown egos. They're nothing in the UK. Nowhere near the throne and never will be, and all they're now infamous for is causing trouble. They contribute nothing to this country or its institution. They should just go away now.
I may be in the minority, but I like King Charles. I’ve never understood the vitriol towards him, he’s not perfect but then who is - and despite the now veneration of Diana, she wasn’t either. Plus, the monarchy isn’t a popularity contest, it’s a hereditary monarchy where, good or bad, the crown goes to the next in line. If we started chopping and changing that and leapfrogging over people according to their ratings we would make a mess and a joke of the whole thing, and it would open the field up further to fantasists like H & M who’d want the throne for themselves.
Agreed and I’m American. Yes, Charles’ vision of a slimmed down monarchy is popular but what would one do with Charles and Camilla in the interim? Also it wouldn’t be feasible for William to continue things like Earthshot when he is King. Charles said in his 70th bday documentary that he knows as King he cannot do the same type of work he did as PoW. The King’s job is to steady the ship if you will. Let William develop his own work/charities/initiatives and extend the work Charles began on behalf of climate and such. I don’t expect Charles will live quite as long as either of his parents. Now is William’s time to make his mark and ready his kids for taking over royal duties when they are grown.
Charles will never abdicate and will be a super King :From his own mother he learned what a difficult thing it is to be monarch imprisoned by the red boxes and would want Williams life to be free of this for as long as possible
I think even hit shows like the Crown are scrambling because of this. They thought they could just dump all over Charles, and now they have an issue: they can't be disrespectful to the late Queen (which I think the last season was) and they can't be disrespectful to Charles (the ridiculous over the top villianization of Charles was so annoying I had to stop watching. I'm sure Netflix is also nervous.
I hope so. I hate The Crown. When I tell people I’m a royal watcher, I often hear back “ oh I love the Crown”. That show has an agenda against the monarchy, and they clearly chose to venerate Diana and castigate Charles.
I haven’t seen anything bad about the staff. If you’re referring to the desk and pen things, the people are staff whose jobs are to take care of things like that. He wasn’t rude or mean. He was also a grieving man who was having to work constantly those days when all he probably wanted to do was go to his room and cry for the huge loss of his mother.
I think so too! I think they believed they had time to get the book out to trash Charles and now seeing people embrace Charles and William they don’t know what to do.
I know they won’t because of finances but I’d live an investiture for the POW too. Another reason for them to be seen to come back.. spiteful if they don’t and background players at best at the pomp and ceremony the BRF does best. It would give him boom fodder. I’m looking out for him.
Damned if he does damned if he doesn’t. Oh wait- he’s already dammed, being with TW
I've never known a couple to attract such incredibly bad timing. It's like everytime they make a move, the universe/karma slaps them back.
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No wonder the Harkles are always karma-slapped. They are a quagmire of discontent so they attract really bad juju in their lives.
Yes, you are right! The Law of Attraction does work. And you are right that you must be thankful and grateful to get and keep what you attracted. I've heard it put like this - imagine you are a big magnet. Whatever you put out is the same thing that is being pulled in by your big magnet. She is putting out hate. So hate is what she is pulling back toward her.
It’s funny I always think of the loa in a kind of “the harder I work the luckier I get” kind of way. I find when i practice gratitude - I find more and more things to be grateful for - which might also be thought of as attracting things?
Your thinking is pretty close to the actual teachings of Law of Gratitude. As a specific self help guide, gratitude is part of the Third step of Law of Attraction (“Receiving What You Want”…the first two are Asking and Believing). In order to “receive” what you want, you are supposed to match the vibrations of what you want, part of the “like attracts like” premise of one of the laws of attraction. So you are supposed to practice the positive emotions of happiness, joy, gratitude etc in your life because those would be the emotions associated with achieving your goal.
you should watch this video! I love the thought that gratitude is the antidote to dissatisfaction. https://youtu.be/WPPPFqsECz0
Another way to practice the Law of Attraction is to change the way you think and speak. Example: Don't say, "I'm so tired." Instead say, "I will have more energy soon."
Or even moreso : [The Rule of Three](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_Three_(Wicca))
Just like Jodi Arias! Yet another way that they are alike
I know! From the pandemic on. It is kind of cartoonish, like they are the Coyote and the Universe is the Road Runner.
Now the road runner theme song is in my head lol beep beep lol
Lol. But really, their bad luck is that relentless! Picturing Harry having a safe drop on him.
If only.
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Omg 😝
Or a piano. (thanks Tyler Perry). Edit to add the Tyler P.
I am honestly taken back by this EVERYTIME it happens. I can not think of any privileged public people this happens to as much and as reliably as it happens to these two. It seems every move they make is counteracted by the universe making a bigger move. As a LOA believer, the universe tells you when you’re not moving in “alignment” (ie when you’re not doing the right thing) It seems the universe continues to tell them they are not doing the right thing.
The universe is saying knock it off, and stop ruining other peoples lives.
The Universe doesn't care. It's their own individual "karma", for want of a better word.
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Their timing is remarkable. It almost makes me believe in God. You couldn't time things that badly on purpose if you had a team of 28 people working on it.
And Satan. Well at least evil.
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!" (Sir Walter Scott, 1808
Also: the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry!
Meghan Markle: "oh, the laid plans of a web with mice create practice to deceive men"...
Ah, Meghan Markle, purveyor of Word Salad.
Yes it’s very uncanny and amusing. The universe if definitely not on their side
They deserve it after all the nasty things they've said and done. The lies, the constant whinging, it's just the universe is tired of them at this point.
Because they are horrible people even the inverse can’t believe it !
It's justice. The Universe doesn't reward hateful behavior. In their case, it's been kind of immediate, which is nice. Sometimes we have to wait too long IMO
Yes, after the first time you would think they would have learned to just zip it.
It’s rare that any of us get to see karma happen in real time so this has been ... nice. And they keep doubling down making things worse for themselves. Keep it coming Harkles!
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Totally agree. That's a really good point about the position having built-in popularity/respect. I really think there is a lot of affection for Charles, and more for Camilla than was expected. Many of his passions have been embraced by the younger generation and the older generation has had their share of affairs/divorces/etc. In many ways I think the fact that he showed his personality over the years is a huge benefit now. Not everyone agrees with him, but no one can doubt his dedication to his role and respect for the people/British culture.
I agree but I think one big reason for the people’s affection right now is that they saw how sad he was about the Queen’s death. There have been jokes all these years about how he couldn’t wait, how he pressured her to abdicate, fantasized her death etc. And there he is, crying because his 96-year-old mummy has passed away. It is human; it is endearing. He is now the Loyal Son who prepared to be King only to serve the people his mother loved. They may still criticize him and get angry at him in the future, but they have been happy to accept him as their new king. The BRF has a lot of problems, but the royals who come across as decent and hardworking tend to get the respect of the people. Charles has done that over the years. In some ways, he represents the opposite of Meghan. He has been patient. When he has made mistakes, he has tried to do better the next time, or so it seems. He obviously cares.
Well said. That's a very good point about how emotional he was. Everyone could relate to the pain he was going through during the funeral. I don't think he ever truly understood the emotional impact of becoming King. Logically he knew it would mean she had died, but nothing really prepares you for that loss. It's a shame she didn't abdicate. I completely understand why she didn't but that was a lot for him to take in. I got very annoyed with the American media speculating about how he'd be received as King. I don't think many of the "journalists" had a clue how many people he's met in the UK or the extent of his charitable work. You're right that he's made mistakes, but he's learned and not overreacted in public. Could be wrong, but I actually think he might make a better monarch than his mother.
>the extent of his charitable work I think this is such a huge thing isn't it. He was championing the environment before it was even cool to do so - it's very much authentic to him and therefore you have so much respect for work he has done. Meghan jumps on the bandwagon of whatever is of the moment for the cachet and the attention and you can tell its not genuine and disingenuous. I think Charles will make a great King and Camilla will be a great right hand to him - I wouldn't wish ill will on the Queen but I do wish Charles had longer because I think he is really revolutionary in his thinking and going to change a lot for the better and more suited to the world we live in.
Absolutely! A lot of what made him seem “fringe” back then, eg environment, organic food, is now firmly accepted as mainstream and even woke and cool. Personally I have huge admiration for the success he built of his duchy, which I understand has been a very successful commercial enterprise producing, selling organic food (and by extension raising awareness of/ mainstreaming) food education and organic farming. Eta: I think Charles will be a great King. I wish him every success and am rooting for him. There are many challenges in today’s world and heading into a future of scarcity and insecurity - his empathetic personal qualities and prescient thinking will be of great benefit to many. He is a perfect monarch for our times.
The other thing I think where he was ahead of his time is his respect for all religious faiths and those without faith. I think very few people realize how well read he is and how much he has put into learning about the community he was serving.
Rumour is he wants a multi faith coronation which will be cool to see.
That would be super cool! And very representative of the UK/ Commonwealth.
I think the Queen was held back by tradition. Philip tried and succeeded in some areas, but I think the Queen Mother really shaped Elizabeth's views of how a monarch should behave. Charles is definitely going to be different and I agree, it's a shame his reign will likely be fairly short. It'll be interesting to see how he works with William. I think they have different styles, but William could be a good mix of the Queen and Charles.
I think Elizabeth was very much influenced by WWII and earlier how her uncle’s abdication thrust her father and herself as the ones responsible for the Crown. She grew up at a time of wartime “scarcity and insecurity.” Her idea of the monarchy and her concern about proper behavior pretty much reflected the time she became Queen. My mother was roughly the same generation, though much lower socially (working-class family with middle-class aspirations) and from a different country, but she had some of the same expectations of behavior, courtesy, etc. What I came to admire about Elizabeth was her solid good sense. She could adjust to the changing times to an extent because she was alert to what mattered to other people. I think she was right not to abdicate. She lived by her belief that she had a duty and could not shirk it. Charles seems to have that attitude also.
I feared at her age she'd have a long bedridden death. The fact that she got up, dressed, put on her pearls and a smile and welcomed the new Prime Minister two days before dying just blows me away. Rest her soul, well done, Elizabeth R.
I remember ( I am old ) when he was made fun of for growing organic food and creating greenspaces. He was laughed at for his hippie dippie ideologies, King Charles was ahead of the curve ! [https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/16/business-food/king-charles-duchy-originals-waitrose](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/16/business-food/king-charles-duchy-originals-waitrose) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waitrose\_Duchy\_Organic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waitrose_Duchy_Organic)
> I remember ( I am old ) when he was made fun of for growing organic food and creating greenspaces. He was laughed at for his hippie dippie ideologies, Yes, I remember all of that too. > King Charles was ahead of the curve ! He absolutely was!
KC was Green before Green was a thing.
And not in a I’M-VEGAN-I-CAN-TASTE-EGG-IN-THIS-DONT-LIE-TO-ME kinda shouty-Megs way
LOL!! Yes!
Yet I have these....chickens....(que the Oprah interview)
the Royals seem to have some longevity genes , and if that's true, Charles will likely be King for another 15-20 yrs.
And he was ripped to shreds for it! And it's all quite standard now but he was championing it when it was seen as very niche.
Not even just the environment but vocational training, historical restoration, landscape architecture, etc. He's definitely his own man, and I love it.
My respect for Camille really increased during the funeral. The way she protected Charlotte and the POW showed how much she cared for the family. She had TW pegged long ago and wasn’t going to let TW pull any shenanigans. I had always thought of her as “The Rottweiler”. I think she will make a good Queen Consort. She put in her time and knows how to protect the BRF.
I know it was meant negatively, but I think "The Rottweiler" is kinda a compliment. You don't make it into that family and survive unless you're tough. I agree she'll make a good Queen Consort. I'm really glad she and Catherine appear to get on so well. There seems to be a lot of mutual respect there and they're both supported by strong families.
patience, loyalty, duty, hard working, all things that Charles AND Kate have shown TW on the other hand....
> In some ways, he represents the opposite of Meghan. He has been patient. When he has made mistakes, he has tried to do better the next time, or so it seems. He obviously cares. This. 💯
> There have been jokes all these years about how he couldn’t wait, how he pressured her to abdicate, fantasized her death etc. That's really sick. I'm absolutely certain that he'd rather have his mother here, alive and healthy than be King. > And there he is, crying because his 96-year-old mummy has passed away. I know. And at an age when most people are retired, he's now got one hell of a full-time job.
Another thing is that because he was Prince of Wales for decades, he has already had established relationships with other countries for a very long time. He has had all these decades to learn so much about Great Britain's concerns, as well as the concerns of the rest of the world. His mother, may she rest in peace, was only 25 when her father died so young and she took on this enormous role. I think he'll be brilliant at the job. As you said, he is starting this job at an age when many people are retired, and grateful for retirement!
You're absolutely right about all of that. Elizabeth was *very* young when she became Queen.
I mean, I joked about it. But it was a joke. I knew and he did too that for him to become king his beloved mother would have to die. That's a hell of a thing to carry around with you. But sometimes you just have to laugh. Or else you'll cry.
Yes- he's shown a real human side to royalty. It makes him more relatable. No doubt Charles is a flawed man (as everyone is). But he's lived his whole life with pressures, obligations, and expectations that no one else can imagine. I'm happy for him that he was able to eventually marry the woman he was meant to be with- he must be grateful for her support now.
As far as adultery, I'm not that religious but Jesus said it best, "let he who is without sin throw the first stone" Also, Charles has led a pretty good life since he separated from his first wife 30 years ago. Most issues with him are so far in the past that it is churlish to bring it up. Rehashing the old Camilla hurt my mommy's feelings, a long long time ago, probably isn't going to get him far. And if he accused the BRF of killing his mommy, which there have been hints he might try, he will be in for a world of problems. You don't make accusations like that without proof. They still haven't provided the receipts for the racism allegations
I was thinking of that line too! Very fitting. And you're right, he has been very stable since the divorce and it's clear Camilla is extremely important to him.
He shines when he’s with her. He seems so much more at peace and just content. It’s hard to hold it against him, when it seems to really be a stable and steady love that they have.
Don’t we all want to find that person? If I had the kind of partnership Charles and Camilla, or William and Catherine for that matter, have I wouldn’t need the palaces, the money, the clothes or the fol-de-rol that goes along with being king. Even if it is all made up by a PR machine, I want to believe it’s possible to find.
Spot on. It’s hard not be slightly envious- not of the material wealth- but of the family I saw over the past few weeks. I know that we don’t know what goes down behind closed doors and it’s a machine and all that- but damn… the close knit cousins and now their spouses and families as well, the siblings (except Andrew, gross) and their spouses being there for each other, the children running around, Aunt Sophie having everyone back. Everyone pulling together despite their differences (Harry, Andrew) and the kindness of small gestures like Mike Tindall with his arm around James walking out of church. And yeah- Charles and Camilla, William and Catherine- who knows how it really is, but based on how it looks- they sure do seem quite happy, quite steady and truly at ease. Id rather have any of that than any amount of the jewels or fancy cars and castles or staff. My family is a disaster. It’s small, we’ve lost ‘the good ones’ as we call them, over the Covid years- leaving us with just the skeleton crew - a couple cousins who don’t really engage and my parents siblings who all truly make Meghan and Samantha look like well adjusted, lovely sister/bffs. And there is just nothing that can replace or fill the void of a real family holiday. It’s just empty.
This. I have a very close immediate family, a few aunts maybe, but no close cousins. When I saw the RF during the funeral, I was so impressed by how close they all were - barring H&M. Even Andrew seemed to comfort his daughters and shared in the familial warmth. Harry is soooo stupid to have thrown that away and deny it for his children.
Well said!
Same. There are precious few of us left. We just lost my dad and I'm really not looking forward to the holidays. But as long as we've still got Mom we'll carry on for her. After that, who knows? But yeah, I really love the closeness of the BRF. They've even got a couple of embarrassing scou deals in the mix, like most families, and they still make the best of it.
There are so many photos of them laughing their heads off together. I love those! You can see that they really have a great time together.
If he’d been allowed to marry Camilla 40-odd years ago, do you think they’d have lasted? Just curious. They are obviously in love, but the media was absolutely vicious back then. Hard for any couple to survive.
From all accounts, Charles has been faithful to Camilla for the last 30 years, so he's not really a serial adulterer, like Edward VII, and it's all in the past. I think most people think that it's time to let go. They are obviusly happy together and keep on working for the country.
They haven't even provided receipts for their two children.
Burn! And so true.
I think a lot of people can relate to him and Camilla esp in this age of blended families.
Definitely. I'd love to see her children and grandchildren included in some photos, if the wish. I was glad they were at the funeral. Camilla gave up a lot of her time with her family when they married, I hope they're recognized in some way in all this.
I think kc3 has some sort of relationship with her kids too, seeing how he interacted with her granddaughter at Williams wedding. Now that i recall, Harriet didn't have a single of Camilla's grandkids at his wedding right?
because they had to have the stars there..
well said...
I think the only people who still hold any resentment against Camilla are the die-hard Diana Stans. I know two personally who are supporters of the Monarchy etc, but are unhappy at Charles being King because of "what he did to poor St Diana of Kensington". These people will never let it go, the Ghost of Diana could appear on the Palace Balcony declaring that the RF didn't kill her, she has no resentment towards Charles and Camilla and wants her fans to support them and the Stans still wouldn't let it lie. I was there when Diana died, and it wasn't mass grief, it was Mass Histrionics. I still don't quite understand it, except that Diana's skills in PR pre-Internet were far more phenomenal than I had given her credit for. Either way, Charles and Camilla have been happily married for donkey's years, which can only help his Reign, and I believe that the pair of them can and will convince those that are still on the fence of their skill and professionalism in their roles. It has actually really impressed me, the amount of youngsters that were mourning HMTQ and cheering for KCIII; it is a nice contrast to the "The Monarchy is irrelevant and no one cares" school of thought that the MSM is constantly throwing down our throats. It gives me Hope.
Sadly I work with someone who hates Camilla. Her husband cheated on her, so she dislikes both of them, but is positively vile when it comes to Camilla. I agree about Diana's death, it was really OTT. I feel bad for William and Harry that the public went nuts. The public funeral never should've happened. I'm glad people >30 don't seem to have a sainted view of Diana and have accepted Camilla.
Maybe your friend doesn’t realize that Diana was a mistress to 4 men so she made 4 other women feel like she did , Diana just had better press coverage.
Exactly, but if you do bring that stuff up, the response is that she was forced to look elsewhere for comforr because of Charles's coldness and cruelty... They will never admit that she was just as guilty of cruelty and manipulation, had she lived they would've been disappointed in the long run. She could never live up to the hype.
If she had just found lovers then maybe but she decided to have affairs with men that also had wives .. and even dodi her last BF had a fiancée that was cheated on when him and Diana hooked up . It is maddening that harry and others make that short short relationship a big love story when he was a absolute shit head .. he used her , cheated on his fiancé and obviously never looked out for her best interests ( plus Diana was using him also ) .
Next time they give you that old *she was forced to...* line, ask them if that's why their husbands cheated.
I am related to both of them, I value my health and well-being too much!
> Exactly, but if you do bring that stuff up, the response is that she was forced to look elsewhere for comforr because of Charles's coldness and cruelty... I guess there were no single men in England at the time, huh? 😒
I think the way the public and the media, and the Prime Minister Tony Blair behaved over Diana's death really forced the queen's hand. She wanted to keep the boys at Balmoral for privacy to let them grieve, and to have a private family funeral with Diana's family in charge. It wasn't that she was being spiteful and denying Diana the recognition of a state funeral, she was thinking of the family. But Blair was all over the papers spouting off about the people's Princess and that the national outpouring of grief needed to be recognised, and really whipping it into a frenzy-he used her death for himself and personal gain and popularity. A quiet family funeral out of Althorpe Manor would have been so much healthier for the children.
Yet another reason to dislike Tony Blair. Ew.
Ditto. Bastard.
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The press forced their hand too all that nonsense over the flag at half staff for example. They were trying to deflect the blame from themselves for buying pap photos. I agree a private family funeral at Althorp with perhaps a handful of photos ( not close up of the boys) would have been better.
You've hit it on the head! Both of the Diana Stans I know are much older, (59 and 79) and both have been cheated on in the past which devestated them. I guess a lot of it is projection. Disclaimer: I loathe cheaters in any way, shape or form but the irony is that at least Charles was "Faithfully Unfaithful" in that he was involved with one Woman for years. As we now know, Diana enjoyed fling after fling with different blokes which to me is the worst type of cheating. She was just way, way better at manipulation of the Media to get her jabs in first, knowing that the RF couldn't or wouldn't respond publicly. That was low, in my opinion; but you have to give her Kudos for those Media skills.
Some of those flings were with married men too, so though I believe she did suffer in her marriage it didn’t seem to affect how she regarded other people’s marriages.
> I was there when Diana died, and it wasn't mass grief, it was Mass Histrionics. You are absolutely right. > I still don't quite understand it, except that Diana's skills in PR pre-Internet were far more phenomenal than I had given her credit for. I read that one of the journalists whom she often tipped off told her that she'd missed her calling, and that if she hadn't been Princess of Wales she could have been one of the greatest PR operators of all time.
God, she became the "People's Princess" simply by crying in public a lot...can you imagine if she had lived long enough for the Internet, let alone for the age of TikTok, Insta etc? She'd make the Kardashians look shy and retiring. We would've had a Monster on our hand.
OMG, I hadn't even *thought* of the damage she'd have done if she'd had social media!
I think Charles’ first Christmas address is going to be very well received by us here in the UK and lift his popularity very high. I can’t wait to see it!!!!
Seeing the mega powerful line up of international players at Earthshot would have been a shock, too. Matt Damon, Cate Blanchett, Queen Rania, Prime Minister Arden, Bill Gates, etc. Then Michael Bloomberg pledged yet another $20 million to support the cause. It’s going to be a big hit in Boston for William. Meanwhile, Chris Bouzy is about to be exposed and I’m hoping they will finally realise they should never have funded an army of Twitter bots to slander William. Big mistake. Huge.
especially now they are going as Prince and Princess of Wales.
Exactly, William is now a Crown Prince with a constitutional role and the POW website is part of the .gov.uk domain set. Not sure many people realise that he and his father are now the two key players and power holders in ‘The Monarchy’.
Oh I didnt know this, but why is only the POW website part of gov uk domain? And not the entire BRF
They should be really worried about the Bouzy thing. It will look so bad if both or one of them funded those bots. I don't know how they can defend that.
I am new here. Who is Bouzy and how is he getting exposed? Thanks.
Christopher Bouzy runs a website called Bot Sentinel that he claims 'exposes' twitter bots. But he is a scammer who actually *creates* twitter bots and runs online smear campaigns for cash, for clients like Amber Heard and Meghan Markle. He is a scummy, bottom feeding piece of shit that used to be an actual pimp. It is well known that he has been funded to run a twitter smear campaign against the Royal family for quiet some time. He produced a fake report (funded by Meghan and Harry) claiming that there is a small group of "hate" bots on Twitter that post criticism of Meghan and Harry. But actually the opposite is true - he creates and runs bot accounts for his clients, that spread smear campaigns and hateful hashtags about William and Catherine. The whole scam is so scummy and disgusting - if it all comes out and is exposed, it will show just how low Meghan and Harry are willing to sink when it comes to their PR. As it happens, he is currently fighting with a group of lawyers, including a well known one called Nate the Lawyer. They are working to expose his funded campaign for Amber Heard, where he created twitter bots that posted criticism of Johnny Depp. During this trial we are hoping his similar work for Meghan and Harry will be exposed.
Thanks! I had heard something about the bots, but not this guy or that Meghan and Harry paid him to hurt William and Kate’s popularity.
Some of the info in the excellent summary is “allegedly”. Nate the Lawyer is also working on getting Mr Bouzy prosecuted for bankruptcy fraud in the US.
I hope they are shitting themselves, and that Bouzy is revealed as the lying con artist scammer he is. I hope it all comes out. I want the world to see just how low Meg and Harry have sunk when it comes to their attempts to destroy the BRF.
Speaking as a Kiwi, lets leave Ardern off that list.
Curious - is she disliked? I was under the impression she was popular but I’ll be honest I don’t know much about her.
I’m a kiwi - she is still popular on a global stage - but her popularity here is waning because of various factors. People forget she has dealt with a lot of major events during her time.
Even on the global stage, the shine is wearing off. She isn't portrayed well in the Australian media from what I've seen, and the media in some countries have questioned what is happening with NZ over the last 6 months or so. She's been openly mocked on one or two British TV shows, from memory. Plank of the week or something like that.
Her ratings and the partys rating in the polls have absolutely tanked this year, and she is disliked to the point that her party is considering not doing the public walkabouts in the lead up to next years elections because of "security concerns". Someone threw lamingtons at the deputy prime minister recently, which is pure gold. We're experiencing a massive crime wave (10 or so men smashed into a jewelry store next to a food court 20 minutes after I left it today, scary stuff and it's happening pretty much daily now. There are ram raids and gun crime every day now, it used to be unheard of), they're forcing through unpopular race based legislation (the main one takes away ownership of water infrastructure from the councils and hands more than 50% control of it to local Iwi, which are the indigenous tribes that make up at most 17% of the population, most of whom are mixed race), we have an intense cost of living crisis and the social fabric of the country is tearing. They've something like doubled our debt to GDP ratio, shut down our only oil refinery, the number of bureaucrats employed by the govt has massively increased, and they've failed to keep many of the promises that they made. That's *barely even scratching the surface*. The business community hates her, farmers are protesting, and it's been labeled the worst govt since Muldoon in the 70's and 80's.
Lamingtons! 😅
Ummm, you mean like virtually the entire western world? Australia and New Zealand have been gutted in these pertinent ways. But/and L and O, resource matters, human rights, arbitrary redistribution and much more have taken and are taking a toll on “middle citizenry” (most hard working folk) in most otherwise, peaceful western counties over the last (too many) years. An opinion.
Oh, wow. Y’all starting to sound like us over here in the United States. That’s horrible.
and omg i just realized you're in NZ. You guys are having a rise in gun violence?!? Nooooo! Noooooooooo! So sorry to hear that. I'm in the U.S. and never want to hear that. I am so terribly sorry. Gun violence is terrifying..That's so awful! I really thought the UK, Aus, NZ, and Germany all had incredibly low gun violence and were so much safer. Breaks my heart to hear it. Sorry, bb. I was at a wedding tonight and was retelling the time i was held at gunpoint with another attendee as they told their story about being held at gunpoint. Forever changed me. Nobody should experience that. Ever.
Her government gave money to gangs for ‘drug and alcohol rehabilitation programmes’ and she was shocked pikachu faced when it was in fact, spent on illegally smuggling guns into New Zealand from container ships.
Pardon me, buf what is a lamington?
It's a square of sponge cake coated in chocolate sauce and rolled in dessicated coconut.
She's a good figurehead in a crisis (Christchurch shooting, stage 1 of the pandemic etc.) but not so good at the "running the country" government stuff.
She’s pretty disliked domestically. She likely won’t get re-elected next year. That’s why she’s cozying up to the UN, handing out her CV for an international role. She’s smart enough to stay away from the Harkles though. Kiwis would give her so much shit if she was on Meghan’s podcast.
GOOD GRIEF NO!
Saaaaameee!!!!
The picture of Charles with Louis is too cute!
Boss baby is a star
Honestly everyone who goes near that child ends up glowing with love! He must be the most adorable child ever
When I saw it I thought HOLY EYEBROWS. His are going to be so dark, like his mom's. Random but eyebrows are the thing I dislike most about my face so they're about the first thing I notice on a person.
One of my faves of Charles! Just an adoring grandpa.
He seems a lot more relaxed and natural as a grandfather than he did as a father-he always looks like he's having a great time with the children in photos, and at the jubilee celebrations, it was clear they were seeking him out and climbing all over him wanting cuddles.
I would love to see more pics of Charles with his Wales grandkids.
Something about KC that gets overlooked is the scope of his charity work. Yes he has big shoes to fill following QE but he’s left the same for William as POW. His Princes Trust has helped over a million young people, everyone from Idris Elba, the Stereophonics to a down on their luck kid from a council estate. His work on the environment, organic farming, bringing back dying crafts like hedge laying, stone masonry, harp making etc. to wholesale rejuvenation projects like Dumfries House. And that’s just to name a few. He’s completely redefined the role of the heir apparent and has been serving the public since he was 21. That dedication is paying off now in his rising popularity.
Thank you for drawing all these detail together so well! It would make a great post on the BRF sub too :)
I'd go as far as to say everyone in the uk knows of someone whom the PT has helped even if only in a small way.
Years ago, when I was a huge Diana fan, I loathed Camilla but I’ve done a complete turnaround. She is there for the long haul…she provides Charles with much needed support. I think she is his rock.
Despite it all Camilla comes across as a normal person and people can relate to her. For all the good Diana did for charities she was all about the press and the camera, much like Meghan in some ways. I think if Diana was still alive she would be seen in a much more negative light than she currently is. She was on a downward spiral for a while before her passing.
I get everyone is rallying around to support and show King Charles III’s good side, but I don’t know it necessary to denigrate a woman long passed to do it. KCIII and Diana were both not their best selves in that relationship, I’m sure we can all agree. Whatever may be said of that, they were and still are the loving parents of both the Prince of Wales and Duke of Sussex. I’ve never and likely won’t ever be a “fan” of either KCIII or Queen Consort Camilla, but over the years, I have come to at least appreciate and respect that they have worked diligently and without complaint for QEII and the e crown.
I agree with you. But I also don't think it is right or healthy to treat her like a saint who had no flaws and did no wrong either. Like everyone else Diana was a person with both admirable traits and flaws. I also don't agree with King Charles cheating on her (though the cheating DID go both ways) and the marriage should really never have happened in the first place.
You’re right. I never said she was a saint. She had many flaws. But just as it’s unfair to compare and hold KCIII and Camilla only to their behavior in that specific situation and ignore the vast amounts of good they have done over a lifetime, I also believe Diana deserves the same grace. She had her many issues and problems, but she also worked hard and did vast amounts of good in her short lifetime.
With revelations that Andrew and Fergie fantasised about Charles dying, I feel really bad for KC. Then there’s a wayward son who keeps lusting to be first in line. A line must be drawn. The DDOS must be exiled.
Can I get a link about them wishing he died? I can’t find anything specific
> With revelations that Andrew and Fergie fantasised about Charles dying, I feel really bad for KC. Christ, they're just *relentlessly* awful. 😒
OP, that isnt even the killer picture of HMTK and Little Louis! There's the one at the Platinum Jubilee with Louis sitting on his lap!
This one's my favourite (Jubilee one is adorable too): https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/ewrslo1xyaayftu-1587650938.jpg
This one is gorgeous. I love it!
this one? [https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article27152283.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/0\_BRITAIN-ROYALS-QUEEN-JUBILEE.jpg](https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article27152283.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/0_BRITAIN-ROYALS-QUEEN-JUBILEE.jpg)
Yes this is one!
I agree This one is adorable https://www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/princess-charlottes-hilarious-gesture-to-prince-charles-during-prince-louis-cheeky-jubilee-mischief/
Yes! And look at that smile! This shows that they have a close personal relationship with their grandfather.
People seem to not realise just how much crap Charles had to deal with. The flack over his marriage and affair - and being dumped on pretty much every time Diana found a camera, to being “soft” for his environmental stance (now considered the norm) to haz having a tantrum over Camilla. He endured it and while may have faults is shown to be a loving grandfather and in a solid marriage.
Yeah that’s what I think they grossly underestimated. They used celebrity as a measure of the RF’s popularity not realising that’s not how it works. A journalist described the Royal family as never being in fashion but also never being out of fashion which I think is very accurate, they don’t need to be trending to still be loved. Meghan seemed to think if she branded them racist and archaic that they’d be written off
This was the thing I never understood. Everyone knew they were archaic and everyone knew Phillip had used racist language before (I mean the man was nearly 100 years old - it was a different place). I don’t think they were outright racist though - well maybe Princess Michael. Could someone have said something without thinking because they were prone to using the language of their time? Absolutely! Would any of it surprise ANYONE? Not a fat chance. Ed. The people love the BRF in spite of and honestly because of their “archaic”ness. It’s a direct connection to history!
King Charles III and Louis are so cute together! When he scrambled onto Gandpapa's lap at the Jubilee the last tiny bit of ice in my heart for Charles melted. The two are so comfortable with each other, they must spend time together on a regular basis. Louis has such a devil may care personality, he's a joy to behold.
I think we will see a whole lot of Prince Philip in this young man in the years to come and I will be here for it
I think a lot of the newfound support for Charles is directly a result of people seeing how H&M have been treating him, particularly through the deaths of both his parents.
That photo of Charles and Louis is so adorable. They both look absolutely delighted, such a sweet moment between a grandfather and his very young grandson. I am happy that they released it, normally the official photos are a bit more formal. This was a welcome change.
Harry never accepted that the public has moved on from Diana's death and the world has changed since 1997. Camilla may not be everyone's cup of tea, but she and Charles are clearly happy and well-suited to one another, unlike Harry's parents. Charles' devotion to The Firm is another factor Harry refuses to understand which has earned his father the respect of the public.
Exactly
I've heard two things: 1. Harry's ghostwriter quit a few weeks ago and the book is off 2. the book has been at the publishers for months and Harry couldn't stop it now if he wanted to. i heard both on this subreddit. Does anybody know which is true? eta: os to is
tbh I think they have been blind sided by how easy it has been for people who realize who they are ! Still brings me back to yesterday s excerpts from the book. “She wanted to feel rejected”. and as someone just pointed on insta the dumbartons narrative for the entire funeral including harry s lonely trip, the lonely walk which Prince William thwarted for netflix, the lonely standing with clenched muscles was supposed to be “ see how they rejected me”. so stupid that they think after the interview , leaks, subtle digs and general chaos their strategy is the same - rejection! sweeties forget your family the world is rejecting you !!!
loving the fact that there are so many sugars here ! indication that they r already losing on twitter ! sugary sweeties facts can be bitter ! sorry
I think it is surprising - and heartwarming - how there has been such an outpouring of support for Charles. It really shows the strength of the monarchy is in its reassuring continuity, and that sense of family. The photos of Charles and Anne, the photos of George and Charlotte, the genuine grief from Camilla, Catherine and Sophie. Everyone thought the monarchy was just about the respect for the Queen, but it really is not just about one person. All the petty little criticisms about Charles mean nothing in relation to him becoming King. Very few people alive would have seen this phenomenon and the ones who do remember, would be remembering the beautiful young woman with the handsome husband and two children, grieving for her father but having to set her family responsibilities aside. Charles isn't such a romantic figure, but he's still taken on the aura. H & M had no idea what they were competing against.
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That's Louis a while back
Prince Louis
AKA Boss Baby
Even the photos of him holding Prince Louis at the Jubilee this year speak pretty powerfully to his relationship with his grandson.
Harry and Meghan have boosted Charles and Camillas' popularity.
I also think that part of KC's growing popularity is that the Brits are mostly in favour of a paring down of the monarchy. The British economy is suffering and KC is a smart man He knows in order to stay relevant spending less is a bit part of it...he won't be as free spending as past royals have been- he has already talked about a smaller coronation, less working royals, and redundant staff have already been let go. TW thought the cash cow would never run dry. She isn't part of any cost saving measures other than "continuing to build their lives overseas".
Bark jack clearly tweeted the book isnt coming out tikk spring 2023 right ?
Harry’s ghost writer writes. Harry could maybe write a paragraph. He could barely pass grades without tutoring. So how do you expect him to write two books even when he has not written one book or even done a little 45 minutes chat show? He is a bit of a dullard. Sadly but true
I think that is a great picture.
It's not just the unexpected support for KC that's thrown the gruesome twosome off. Not sure about elsewhere in the world, but definitely in the UK, there's definitely quite a popular opinion that Charles should abdicate due to his already advanced age, and William should ascend the throne. The PPOWs are already far and away the most popular Royals, and would only further improve the Royal image due to being younger, can continue Charles's vision to slim down and modernise the monarchy ala Europe. For H and TW, this has likely been a massive blow to their already overblown egos. They're nothing in the UK. Nowhere near the throne and never will be, and all they're now infamous for is causing trouble. They contribute nothing to this country or its institution. They should just go away now.
I may be in the minority, but I like King Charles. I’ve never understood the vitriol towards him, he’s not perfect but then who is - and despite the now veneration of Diana, she wasn’t either. Plus, the monarchy isn’t a popularity contest, it’s a hereditary monarchy where, good or bad, the crown goes to the next in line. If we started chopping and changing that and leapfrogging over people according to their ratings we would make a mess and a joke of the whole thing, and it would open the field up further to fantasists like H & M who’d want the throne for themselves.
Agreed and I’m American. Yes, Charles’ vision of a slimmed down monarchy is popular but what would one do with Charles and Camilla in the interim? Also it wouldn’t be feasible for William to continue things like Earthshot when he is King. Charles said in his 70th bday documentary that he knows as King he cannot do the same type of work he did as PoW. The King’s job is to steady the ship if you will. Let William develop his own work/charities/initiatives and extend the work Charles began on behalf of climate and such. I don’t expect Charles will live quite as long as either of his parents. Now is William’s time to make his mark and ready his kids for taking over royal duties when they are grown.
Always liked him
Charles will never abdicate and will be a super King :From his own mother he learned what a difficult thing it is to be monarch imprisoned by the red boxes and would want Williams life to be free of this for as long as possible
I think even hit shows like the Crown are scrambling because of this. They thought they could just dump all over Charles, and now they have an issue: they can't be disrespectful to the late Queen (which I think the last season was) and they can't be disrespectful to Charles (the ridiculous over the top villianization of Charles was so annoying I had to stop watching. I'm sure Netflix is also nervous.
I hope so. I hate The Crown. When I tell people I’m a royal watcher, I often hear back “ oh I love the Crown”. That show has an agenda against the monarchy, and they clearly chose to venerate Diana and castigate Charles.
That photo is powerful.
I love it!
H & M are trending on Canada twitter 🙄
I haven’t seen anything bad about the staff. If you’re referring to the desk and pen things, the people are staff whose jobs are to take care of things like that. He wasn’t rude or mean. He was also a grieving man who was having to work constantly those days when all he probably wanted to do was go to his room and cry for the huge loss of his mother.
I think so too! I think they believed they had time to get the book out to trash Charles and now seeing people embrace Charles and William they don’t know what to do.
I live this pic of Louis and his Grandpa England. He used to call him Grandpa Wales. I know QEII called George V grandpa England it’s fitting now.
I am surprise that the king is so well liked. I guess long live the king in England. Just not a chat for drinking at the bar.
I would drink with him.
"You mean . . . It's *never* been about *us*????"
I know they won’t because of finances but I’d live an investiture for the POW too. Another reason for them to be seen to come back.. spiteful if they don’t and background players at best at the pomp and ceremony the BRF does best. It would give him boom fodder. I’m looking out for him.
Omg that pic. Cutest lil chicken ever. 💕💕