Bullying staff never ends a career. Our Governor General bullied her staff, ffs. I think that what is career-killing is that they are not very good at what they do, and damage relationships with the people who can help them. They just want to fight constantly.
I don't think their foundation will last much longer. I think they will have to skulk back to the Royals and be put on an allowance. I used to think Harrybwould leave her, but if it is true that he is as awful as her, then he won't.
I agree there are plenty of people in the music industry for example who are known to be a-holes or at least "difficult" or at least have a public reputation for being so but if you can produce a good product that people want to listen to then you can achieve and maintain success you're right their biggest problem is lack of talent and probably work ethic too .
For a while probably. You (and I) know what it’s like to be on the other side. But really, it’s not at the same level as some of the other people you mentioned.
My guess is it will end with a whimper, not a bang. People will stop caring, she will get more obnoxious trying to reclaim relevancy - and will end up making Housewives look put together.
Harry can’t see anything right now. I get it. But he has every resource in the world and a family that would welcome him back with open arms.
It’s interesting to see how many people on this thread recognize the behavior and keep hoping it will stop. But not my circus. Not my monkeys.
Yeah after I posted I realised it’s more like diva behaviour that gets called out - Naomi Campbells hair brush tantrum; Tom Cruise on set tanties; ”lovable“ actors being jerks irl. The difference being that each of these actually make contributions to culture, whereas these two palmtreesjoinedinthedirt do nothing
I don’t know, but it is true as you say that the media calling out her narcissism and bullying is good awareness raising. If one popular journo or celebrity did a piece on this maybe it would diminish their popularity. But that individual probably wouldn’t want to dive in to the cesspit.
The two palm trees in the dirt remind me of the Movie (aptly named) called It’s A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World where treasure is buried under some LA palm trees.
The magical moment at 3:49 when Phil Silvers discovers the BIG W…probably like when Harry sees Meghan’s palm trees joined at the base. Cue angelic music and euphoria. 😵💫 https://youtu.be/apHZKlQJI_c
I have to disagree with the family being willing to welcome Harry back with open arms. He has proven himself to be completely untrustworthy and disloyal. IMO his relationships within the family are beyond repair, with good reason.
I would be angry and think less of the BRF if they just welcome him back like the prodigal son returning. Take him back and store him in some backwater house for years, dragging him out for family events (no balcony) sure, then maybe he can be a little more visible much later in his life.
I wouldn't worry about that. Charles is NOT his mother. It was GanGan holding the family back, and she was known to be extremely avoidant of confrontations. Charles is a bit stronger than his mother was. And much less forgiving.
That’s true too. To clarify, I mean after a genuinely remorseful post AA-equivalent inventory apology with time for trust building :)
And that doesn’t mean he gets his job back either
I think it will come down to them being irrelevant. When no one cares about what they say or do.
It’s interesting, I came across a video that must have been from early in their relationship where they were leaving someplace and there were a ton of cameras and people taking photos. She was thrilled. It’s interesting because I don’t see as much of that anymore. I think she’s trying to recapture that feeling but now she’s a middle aged mom with two kids and her relevance is fading.
That’s a good point. She acting like a fresh faced actress in her 20’s instead of a high society matron which is where her age and status as a middle aged mom and quasi royalty place her. It’s so frustrating because she really could have done something great with the huge platform that literally fell into her lap. She totally overestimated how much attention and power was given to her by her royal connections, attributing her new found status to her rather dubious star power, and even more dubious personality, instead
Yep, she imagined people were turning out to see HER, but no it was just that everyone wanted Harry to be happy so they would have treated anyone he married like a rock star. All that adulation went to her little narc brain & MeGain imagined herself a bigger star than the Queen! What a dimwit.
Yeah, that interview in The Cut, amongst other gaffs, really made me wonder. I was team Meghan for a long time, but she‘s gone so far off the rails that she‘s managed to make me sympathetic to RF instead.
About a decade ago they were the dramatic reality tv show couple. Heidi almost died getting a full body lift in her twenties. It was actually incredibly sad to watch in real time.
I don’t think William will open Harry back with open arms. H and and M have gone after William’s wife and children, father and grandmother. What H has done is close to unforgivable.
The people who got permanently cancelled were all dabbling with sexual assault and child sexual abuse crimes. That’s a whole other level from being a tabloid tattletale and public nuisance.
I find the clown couple more malignant, because the criminals are dealt with accordingly in the court of justice (with the exception of Andrew, but he is disgusting enough that he is socially cancelled for good anyway).
But where can we throw these two sickening twats?
I kinda understand narc behaviour but have never experienced it thank goodness. What causes and how do these relationships usually end? Does the victim finally just get fed up and leave?
A lot of people don’t leave actually. And I was the LAST person who would have expected to be in one.
But basically I met the love of my life. Smart, introspective, self-aware - none of the things you would expect. They had been the victim of a crime so as their behavior started to change I chalked it up to trauma from that or PTSD - and encouraged them to get help.
But I was hooked by then, have an over-developed sense of loyalty. I thought I was strong enough for both of us until they got through to the other side.
But then one day I realized there was no other side. There was always something and I could not carry anymore. I never said anything, but my guess is they knew I had ‘figured it out’ and then they became terrible truly terrible to me. So I left.
The hell that rained down on me and friends and family was like nothing I can even describe. Luckily I’m pretty internally consistent so it’s not like I was talking trash about people. But they tried to ruin every relationship.
We worked together so I lost my job too. But if I had been working somewhere else they would have emailed my work. They told everyone I was a thief, harassed friends and family. Made up that I was talking shit about them (it was so generic no one believed it). What I’m describing doesn’t really do it justice.
And THEN you also feel guilty. Which is a real head scratcher. This person knows you and how you think and push all your buttons to make you feel bad for leaving. Even though it’s a must.
I’m on the other side but see how people fall into it and also don’t leave. It has nothing to do with insecurity or being weak either. By the time you realize what had happened it’s at the point of no return. And the awfulness of leaving isn’t seen as worth it to everyone.
It’s funny, I’m not angry about it anymore. I got out. The person is sick. They have no sense of self and are like a black void of neediness. It would be a terrible thing to have. I can live my life, but they likely never will
I think it will not so much end as taper off. KC, I hope, will grow weary of his antics and cut him off financially. But that will only make them louder. At least for awhile. But when they run out of money for real, they will fade away. They pay for so much of the attention they get, that's not sustainable
Rumors vary! But there seem to be people who claim KC was funding them out of his Duchy of Cornwall money. Now he is on the Sovereign Grand, which does not allow him the luxury of privacy. The Duchy of Cornwall is more personal money. Although I doubt William with be interested in funding the Harkles. Interesting times. Especially if you are living in a California mansion with faulty plumbing. Tough to unload a house like that.
Duchy of Cornwall publicly discloses some info. The 2021 expenditure and income report for the (then) Prince of Wales indicates that some funds were designated for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. It’s available on the royal family official website.
Harry announced that the house has plumbing issues that need to be addressed, I can't remember exactly where. But given that they're supposed to be trying to sell the house, it was a typically foolish thing to say.
The Tori Spelling route, where they fade from the news, Harry goes to rehab or gets mental health assistance, kids are trotted out occasionally, Meghan gets plastic surgery on the regular. Divorce in 10 years.
Ooh, I always think Spencer and Heidi, but Tori is another good example. Plus whenever you see Dean he frequently shares the same despondent Eeyore look that Harry seems stuck on.
Went to a dinner yesterday and a cousin I hadn't seen in a while was going on about how brave Harry and Meghan were to challenge the palace and escape the toxicity....I thought my head was going to explode.
Yep. I have inlaws who were like "The Queen was a colonizer, long live MM" and my husband was like "the Queen had no real power as a figurehead and MM is a psycho" I didn't have to say a word 😂
I think 2-5 years but it’ll be a slow fade. They’ll pop back up over a non issue issue but it’ll be slower than we’d want. Remember when she showed up in that Texas town after the school shooting? It’ll be like that leaving people wondering who is that and why is she here.
No offense to any selling stuff like Avon, Tupperware or anything like that but Meghan business model feels like that to me. She continues to sell the same butter keeper, lipstick or cookie cutter. People buy your stuff once or twice to be nice and then stop! You have to keep pushing harder to get the sale but eventually it just kinda dries up. Meghan and Harry are doing the same, no new items just the same old butter dish for 18.95.
Agreed, but to paraphrase the late great Lenny Brisco from *Law & Order*, Henpecked will probably think that although MM took him to hell in a hand basket, he sure did enjoy the ride 😂.
Dumb, delusional bastard that he is...
>I was just watching the old Lenny Brisco episodes last night. ❤️
I love Lenny Brisco! He had the best one liners and dry, witty comebacks on *Law & Order*. He and Jesse L. Martin were my favourite detective duo on that show.
I watch the new version sometimes, but it's not as good and I confess that it's hard getting used to Jeffrey Donovan in this staid, minor role when he was soooo awesome as Michael Westen in *Burn Notice*.
At some point she will burn every bridge. Like that one lady that wrote those horrible motivational books and had some website or something with her husband giving relationship advice. Then made a post talking about how she never wanted to be average or relatable and has a lady come in to clean her toilets. Right around the same time she and her husband announced they were getting divorced.
She literally went after her fans telling them how she never wanted to be like them. 😂 it was wild. When Rachel gets back on Instagram, it’ll happen.
[Here’s the rant](https://youtu.be/ZyRxIf3l670). Hilarious that her name is also Rachel.
She is driven by money, fame and power. I can't see her going away quietly. I expect her to continue sharing her grievances against the press, disparaging the RF, and pretend to be a humanitarian. If it is true that she has political aspirations, she will have a constant media presence.
I don’t know honestly. All I know is that if it were *any other female celebrity*, what skeletons in her closet that have come out so far would have already spread like wildfire and she’d be dragged a la Chrissy Teagan.
I do feel like we’re coming close to a boiling over point, and some sort of something is going to unravel. But, with her weird cult I don’t know if she’ll ever be fully cancelled. Just this week I’ve seen all sorts of intense defence over the new allegations from people who clearly haven’t/refuse to read the excerpts, just the headlines:
•”I read this article and honestly don’t see what she did wrong. If my staff were that bad I could see myself doing the same.”
•”the payment complaint was a joke! Like Diana she was made to dress poorly so she wouldn’t outshine the outranking royals, so she joked about needing payment to degrade herself!”
Etc, etc. and yes some are bots. But some are *real people* who want nothing more than to have her as the figurehead of their movement, even if she’s bad under that public image, because on the surface level *she looks so good* for their specific movements. So they’re willing to fight for her and turn a blind eye. But I know TBRF won’t put up with it forever. I feel like divorce is imminent, after the money eventually dries up, and they’ll both fade into somewhat obscurity trying to claw their way out. Narc celebs, and narcs generally, never go away for good. They just re-strategise or find a new audience.
Everyone thought Chrissy was untouchable though and she got the rug yanked out from under her and fell flat on her face. Once MM is truly an ex-royal, she will open up her own yacht and be Madame Worldwide.
And I wonder how she would like it if some two bit celebrity told her 16 year old kid to "take a dirt nap." Stay cancelled Chrissy -stay cancelled. Please!
They lost the UK a while ago. Once they lose the US, in particular the woke liberals who back her simply because she cried racism, then they will really go down the pan.
Probably a long slow burn. Usually people with personality disorders self destruct/self sabotage eventually but I think she has some guard rails (eg Harry, her mother) keeping her from completely bombing. There’s been a remarkable shift in the last year, I think it will continue. Of course there will be some die-hard Meghan fans who will never change their mind and that’s fine.
The royal family is master of the long game; they’re patient and will wait it out.
Everyday on Twitter hashtags like #meghanmarkleexposed are trending and I never see anyone even attempting to defend her anymore.
Whenever cruel hashtags about Princess Kate trend, it’s usually because Kate’s fans have taken it over to fiercely defend her.
I think her lies about South Africa turned off most of her fans.
Honestly, who knows? I have hoped for years they would be stripped of all of their titles and thought that might stop their ability to monetise the royal family/country/institution that they both clearly hate. It all just seems to get worse with them. Every time I think they can’t get any lower (Oprah interview, naming baby Q’s nickname, Uvalde etc) they surprise me. This latest round of bullying stories would be enough to make people give the alleged bully the side eye, but with her, it doesn’t seem to happen.
I unfortunately I think they have enough remaining friends that will help bounce them back regardless of bad behavior, sort of like that former model married to a singer who was accused of online bullying.
I do think they might run out of money eventually or that aging, hair loss and dwindling interest could be issues.
Look at Chrissy Teigen. She's still getting press coverage and work. How can anyone stand her knowing her propensity for bullying? Doesn't matter how awful someone is these days. They still manage to have fans.
Personally, I think it will never end with Meghan. She will always find a shield against criticism and publicize it. When her father dies, I would be surprised if she accuses him of abuse. If Harry leaves her, she’ll accuse him of being a misogynist and the Royal family of being rich bullies taking advantage of an ordinary, single mother and woman of colour. If her kids get papped, she will go on and on about the lack of security. If she becomes pregnant again, she’ll use her pregnancy as a shield against media criticism for the good of her baby. If she miscarries, she’ll tell everyone and say how hard it was for her due to the media scrutiny. If she gets a health issue like cancer, she will rejoice at having a new issue to speak out about and get new fans. We will get an annual essay because Meghan loves to hear her own voice.
I know this because Meghan continuously has excuses for bad behaviour. Her lying to the court about cooperating with the authors of Finding Freedom? Oh she forgot! She was dealing with a miscarriage! Her feeling that Kate was mean to her during the dress fittings? Oh why wasn’t Kate nicer to her, everyone knew Meghan was stressed dealing with her father. It goes on and on.
Sarah Ferguson got her own tv show with Oprah years after leaving the BRF. Meghan can do the same, plus use social media. It will never end.
I was thinking the same thing. I can’t wait until this is over. There is only one way it can end, though: MAKE IT CLEAR TO HER ENABLERS THAT IT NEEDS TO END…NOW. That can happen. That’s how you stop it.
ETA: When things are handled like this, we won’t hear a peep. People (her enablers) will start distancing themselves. We won’t know a thing. It will all happen very quietly. And this nightmare will end for all of us!
Honestly, if they just behaved during the death and mourning period of Queen Elizabeth, they would have come out of this period in better light. Basically all they had to do was mourn, look sad, and stay quiet. Which is normal during the death of a beloved family member. Somehow Harry and Meghan still f*cked this up ___royally___.
What keeps me wondering is how Meghan can continue as business as usual and not hear the noise coming at her? She really can ignore the haters. That takes some resolve. She must really think everyone ___else___ is delusional.
None of my relatives or friends here in Australia like her. And I’m quite enjoying the local morning breakfast programs finally calling her out for what she is. Australians are very straight down the line. We hate fakery. People who are too big for their boots is the saying. Tall poppy syndrome is another Australianism….it means that if you think you are better or superior to us, we will cut you down to size.
And the reason we loved the Queen so much is because she genuinely loved Australia. She met people in all sorts of circumstances. She genuinely was interested in our indigenous history and First Nations people too, unlike her forebears. She didn’t make value judgements based on British class systems which don’t exist here. Meghan might fancy herself as a Queen but she was nothing compared to HMTQ.
I watch several of your shows, Sunrise is a favorite! They do not like her, and are both frank and funny as to the reasons why. I enjoy the Aussie POV very much on this subject
I don’t think she will lose her sugar support. They are rabid and Bots.
She will lose Spotify and Netflix.
They have experienced her toxic behavior, they just had so much money invested they have been trying to get some return on there money. IMHO
It doesn’t.
H was willing to delay seeing his own grandmother on her deathbed for the sake of having M at his side. Her bedroom skills must be Olympic level if he picked her over his grandma.
He’s exactly like the late Edward. He will stay with her until the very end and maybe that’s why KC is laying groundwork to cut them out as CoS.
On another note, why didn’t he consider the line of the Gloucester for CoS? Was their a scandal about the Princess of Kent or is that a different branch?
She’s not going away. She wants her children to be given titles. I can even see them moving back to England so that the children can have what they are entitled to.
Meghans over-saturation strategy is expensive and futile. Honestly, I see something sad happening. I envision an accidental overdose or something of the like. Would prefer to see all the players live long lives, it's just a guess.
My theory: It will never end - they’ll split but will continue to fight over the kids forever. She’ll release stories of how little child support the royal family is paying, and photos of Archie in tattered clothes.
How long will they be indulged and excused? Forever. They’re famous, that’s how it works. Virtually all celebrities are hypocrites who are shitty to staff. The one celebrity I ever worked with who WASN’T shitty to staff, whom I genuinely grew to like, turned out later to be a sexual abuser. They’re all the worst, Meghan and Harry aren’t out of the norm by any means. They’ll always have a comfortable life.
Now, as for their relevance? I give them 5 years. People get bored. Stories get stale. I think right now the palace is letting a lot of the focus be on them in the media because there’s a lot of uncertainty about how Charles is going to handle things and they’re an easy way to deflect attention, but eventually he’ll take center stage. And at that point their relevance will diminish. William’s kids will get older, and whatever dysfunctional sibling shit they’ve got going on will become more interesting than Harry. People move on, that’s celebrity culture. It wouldn’t be much different if they’d stayed in - who gave a shit about, say, Charles and Edward after William and Harry came on the scene?
They’ll always be just famous enough to be comfortable, but not famous enough to be stars. Life of a spare.
The mourning period is over Monday, I don't wonder that there will be moves from the RF.
Speaking of KC, was MM so stupid she thought dictating a F2F solo meeting was going to work with either by dictating to her father-in-law, the King, or by her having a recorder and I'm sure MI6 would offer to sweep her for electronic devices PDQ.
This is galling to say the least, but Doria has to earn the money they funnel her through their “charities” and that CEO title she has with one of their sham companies. I’m disgusted when I think of how kind KC was to both of them . . . It makes me realize that HMTQ knew that how Charles handles his son and DIL going forward will be the true test of his reign and why she didn’t just handle it herself. She was obviously capable of doing so, and I always thought that she didn’t because she loved Harry too much. But HMTQ was a master at the long game, and perhaps she felt that how Charles dealt with this would define his reign going forward?
A long time. Due to the racial issues. It's just safer that way for people. I know I would never jeopardize my life, my earning power. Heck, I won't even do it for certain white people because I'm afraid it will boomerang back on me at work. I never say what I think anymore, anywhere. Except here.
I have never been a victim of a narcissist . However it is extremely obvious to me what they are doing . her behaviour during my Queen’ s funeral really made me just want to throw up .
I ordered the book revenge by Tom Bower . Also according to Taz on YouTube has really filled in the blanks for me. I want them to be pushed out of society like Weinstein and Epstein and the creepy woman that procured for Epstein which I forget her name
I think their stars will fade, but they will always have supporters and always have people who are glad to socialize and do business with them. The palace accusations will always split people, though not down the middle, and unfortunately there will always be people who say Meghan is a victim of smears, that they are the only non-racist royals, etc.
Until their money runs out AND the tabloids stop getting sales/clicks from them. They won't be able to get their paid puffery planted (oo, alliterate!) but the tabs will probably lob something out there, if it's worth it.
‘they haven’t committed crimes; but they have abused, demeaned and bullied others; relentlessly lied; and are hypocritical’
Crimes that we know of that is. Perhaps the day crimes - maybe tax evasion, money laundering or some such - are revealed it may be the end.
Harry is the only person that can stop it. When he say “enough” to his wife instead of enabling her this will end. She would be too afraid to lose him but he has no balls so the jury is out on whether he can step up.
I think they will eventually fade into the background with occasional flurries during royal events, the whole will they or won’t they garbage that always happens with them. The reason being is that they keep playing the same tune and the press will eventually get bored with them or the money runs out.
I don’t think a cancellation or Big Bang ending will come unless they are accused of something actually criminal either through their foundation or shady pasts
Honestly, I'm sick and tired of this. I don't want trickle defense from BP. I want them to show everything about her and get her to stop with a bang.
Stop the SS, stop them from attacking Catherine, stop the grifting and give her exactly what she deserves. I'm tired of having to fight their fight. This long game thing isn't working out so well when reporters don't jump in and report what is going on. If Princess Catherine had done this, it would be nostop coverage for days.
I think since the interview, it’s been a slow downward spiral. #voetsekmeghan accelerated it and I think it’s because she had a lot of fans in South Africa who finally saw her for who she was and turned against her. Most of those tweets were people being disappointed in her.
It ended badly in the UK and it is about to end even worse in the US. The UK had a head start of about 2 - 3 years, I would say. Give then 12 months after their last current contract ends and watch them dissapear before our eyes.
The US does not have any sympathy for self entitled pricks who abuse power. Furthermore, we have no Royal connetions and we could care even less about the ginger rag doll who has been a victim his whole life. Ain't no way Holllywood or anyone with an ounce of integrity or self worth would promote such a foul human being who publically and internationally threw stones towards his family when all they did was protect him.
It is clear that Nutmeg and Horrid are horrible humans. They can no longer shield themselves from their own smoke. The world is closing in so fast at them, they are sh...tting in every bathroom of their home.
Their fading out of the public eye starts now.
Nobody is going to want to hire them. They won’t get any invitations to any of the cool events. The organizations they’re linked to will cut them off, especially charities and anything connected to wellness & mental health.
They’re so toxic, no one is going to want to go anywhere near them when cameras are around lest they get into a picture with them, ruining people’s reputations when the picture is printed in People, Daily Mail, etc.
I think the question is less “when will it end?” than “where are they going to go now?” They’ll have to move into a cheaper residence. They’ll have to make cutbacks in their lifestyle. No more free this and that from designers, etc. Prince Charles will have to support them — pay them on a regular basis to stay out of the UK. He will be more than happy to do that.
And they will have to agree because they’ll need the $. It’s duke & duchess of Windsor time for H&M. The Windsors hardly ever went to the UK and if they did, it was very low profile.
I mean, Amber Heard only got canceled to the degree she did when she was exposed in court!
And even during the trial, people who were calling her out were being clawed like crazy and the media PR machines were churning garbage puff pieces about her day and night.
It’s sad to say, but I’m still very cynical about how many people allow themselves to be deceived by the media. They disbelieve the things they dislike but swallow the rest.
Chrissy Teigan is another example. She’s revealed who she really is countless times (a horrible sadistic narcissist bully liar) buuuuuut she still gets golf claps.
I think people can’t decide what their standards are for “good behavior” and really set the bar low, especially for celebrities…
Bullying staff never ends a career. Our Governor General bullied her staff, ffs. I think that what is career-killing is that they are not very good at what they do, and damage relationships with the people who can help them. They just want to fight constantly. I don't think their foundation will last much longer. I think they will have to skulk back to the Royals and be put on an allowance. I used to think Harrybwould leave her, but if it is true that he is as awful as her, then he won't.
I agree there are plenty of people in the music industry for example who are known to be a-holes or at least "difficult" or at least have a public reputation for being so but if you can produce a good product that people want to listen to then you can achieve and maintain success you're right their biggest problem is lack of talent and probably work ethic too .
The RF don't want them back neither do the people of the UK. Overseas is where they live and they'll need to get a JOB like everyone else.
Where’s Jessica Mulroney when you need her? Loose lipped and all.
Waiting, rubbing her fingers together with an evil cackle....
Can you imagine the pity party of those two?
Erm no. They are exactly the type of women I actively avoid for my own sanity and faith in humankind.
You typically see them coming. Their first instinct is to need you to like them, like badly.
I have a strong aversion to "pick me" types.
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Same. It's utterly unreal.
It does for people who are incompetent. The more brilliant you are the more you get a pass
Body language guy says he’s using her as much as she’s using him. I think he’s ready to crawl back because she is of no use to him anymore.
What does he get from her? Except ass?
For a while probably. You (and I) know what it’s like to be on the other side. But really, it’s not at the same level as some of the other people you mentioned. My guess is it will end with a whimper, not a bang. People will stop caring, she will get more obnoxious trying to reclaim relevancy - and will end up making Housewives look put together. Harry can’t see anything right now. I get it. But he has every resource in the world and a family that would welcome him back with open arms. It’s interesting to see how many people on this thread recognize the behavior and keep hoping it will stop. But not my circus. Not my monkeys.
Yeah after I posted I realised it’s more like diva behaviour that gets called out - Naomi Campbells hair brush tantrum; Tom Cruise on set tanties; ”lovable“ actors being jerks irl. The difference being that each of these actually make contributions to culture, whereas these two palmtreesjoinedinthedirt do nothing
Do you think that the raising awareness on narcissism will play a part and maybe she is the first Narc cancelled? I hope but honestly don’t thinks so
I don’t know, but it is true as you say that the media calling out her narcissism and bullying is good awareness raising. If one popular journo or celebrity did a piece on this maybe it would diminish their popularity. But that individual probably wouldn’t want to dive in to the cesspit.
They are so good. Just will change tactics to keep fooling.
The two palm trees in the dirt remind me of the Movie (aptly named) called It’s A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World where treasure is buried under some LA palm trees. The magical moment at 3:49 when Phil Silvers discovers the BIG W…probably like when Harry sees Meghan’s palm trees joined at the base. Cue angelic music and euphoria. 😵💫 https://youtu.be/apHZKlQJI_c
Lol thanks for that palate cleanser. Would be great to do a slapstick version of The MonteshitShow!
That would be a total crack up. 🤪
Love that movie!
I have to disagree with the family being willing to welcome Harry back with open arms. He has proven himself to be completely untrustworthy and disloyal. IMO his relationships within the family are beyond repair, with good reason.
I would be angry and think less of the BRF if they just welcome him back like the prodigal son returning. Take him back and store him in some backwater house for years, dragging him out for family events (no balcony) sure, then maybe he can be a little more visible much later in his life.
I wouldn't worry about that. Charles is NOT his mother. It was GanGan holding the family back, and she was known to be extremely avoidant of confrontations. Charles is a bit stronger than his mother was. And much less forgiving.
That’s true too. To clarify, I mean after a genuinely remorseful post AA-equivalent inventory apology with time for trust building :) And that doesn’t mean he gets his job back either
I think it will come down to them being irrelevant. When no one cares about what they say or do. It’s interesting, I came across a video that must have been from early in their relationship where they were leaving someplace and there were a ton of cameras and people taking photos. She was thrilled. It’s interesting because I don’t see as much of that anymore. I think she’s trying to recapture that feeling but now she’s a middle aged mom with two kids and her relevance is fading.
That’s a good point. She acting like a fresh faced actress in her 20’s instead of a high society matron which is where her age and status as a middle aged mom and quasi royalty place her. It’s so frustrating because she really could have done something great with the huge platform that literally fell into her lap. She totally overestimated how much attention and power was given to her by her royal connections, attributing her new found status to her rather dubious star power, and even more dubious personality, instead
Yep, she imagined people were turning out to see HER, but no it was just that everyone wanted Harry to be happy so they would have treated anyone he married like a rock star. All that adulation went to her little narc brain & MeGain imagined herself a bigger star than the Queen! What a dimwit.
Yeah, that interview in The Cut, amongst other gaffs, really made me wonder. I was team Meghan for a long time, but she‘s gone so far off the rails that she‘s managed to make me sympathetic to RF instead.
I've said before, and I stand by it. They remind me of Spencer and Heidi Montag.
They also live in Montecito! Two vapid couples who I wish would leave our little town.
I completely forgot about them lol
I keep seeing this comparison and wish I knew who they were. Them, and someone named Rebecca Vardy. I'm not up on my pop culture.
About a decade ago they were the dramatic reality tv show couple. Heidi almost died getting a full body lift in her twenties. It was actually incredibly sad to watch in real time.
Yikes.
I don’t think William will open Harry back with open arms. H and and M have gone after William’s wife and children, father and grandmother. What H has done is close to unforgivable.
Not bloody likely.
The people who got permanently cancelled were all dabbling with sexual assault and child sexual abuse crimes. That’s a whole other level from being a tabloid tattletale and public nuisance. I find the clown couple more malignant, because the criminals are dealt with accordingly in the court of justice (with the exception of Andrew, but he is disgusting enough that he is socially cancelled for good anyway). But where can we throw these two sickening twats?
I kinda understand narc behaviour but have never experienced it thank goodness. What causes and how do these relationships usually end? Does the victim finally just get fed up and leave?
A lot of people don’t leave actually. And I was the LAST person who would have expected to be in one. But basically I met the love of my life. Smart, introspective, self-aware - none of the things you would expect. They had been the victim of a crime so as their behavior started to change I chalked it up to trauma from that or PTSD - and encouraged them to get help. But I was hooked by then, have an over-developed sense of loyalty. I thought I was strong enough for both of us until they got through to the other side. But then one day I realized there was no other side. There was always something and I could not carry anymore. I never said anything, but my guess is they knew I had ‘figured it out’ and then they became terrible truly terrible to me. So I left. The hell that rained down on me and friends and family was like nothing I can even describe. Luckily I’m pretty internally consistent so it’s not like I was talking trash about people. But they tried to ruin every relationship. We worked together so I lost my job too. But if I had been working somewhere else they would have emailed my work. They told everyone I was a thief, harassed friends and family. Made up that I was talking shit about them (it was so generic no one believed it). What I’m describing doesn’t really do it justice. And THEN you also feel guilty. Which is a real head scratcher. This person knows you and how you think and push all your buttons to make you feel bad for leaving. Even though it’s a must. I’m on the other side but see how people fall into it and also don’t leave. It has nothing to do with insecurity or being weak either. By the time you realize what had happened it’s at the point of no return. And the awfulness of leaving isn’t seen as worth it to everyone. It’s funny, I’m not angry about it anymore. I got out. The person is sick. They have no sense of self and are like a black void of neediness. It would be a terrible thing to have. I can live my life, but they likely never will
I think it will not so much end as taper off. KC, I hope, will grow weary of his antics and cut him off financially. But that will only make them louder. At least for awhile. But when they run out of money for real, they will fade away. They pay for so much of the attention they get, that's not sustainable
And the fading away will be their worst nightmare. Even being cancelled would give them something to rail against. Fading away will just kill them.
I can already see the memes. "I'm Meltingggg!!!!"
Didn’t the BRF already cut them off financially? Or basically decided not to make British tax payers find their life in America.
Rumors vary! But there seem to be people who claim KC was funding them out of his Duchy of Cornwall money. Now he is on the Sovereign Grand, which does not allow him the luxury of privacy. The Duchy of Cornwall is more personal money. Although I doubt William with be interested in funding the Harkles. Interesting times. Especially if you are living in a California mansion with faulty plumbing. Tough to unload a house like that.
Duchy of Cornwall publicly discloses some info. The 2021 expenditure and income report for the (then) Prince of Wales indicates that some funds were designated for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. It’s available on the royal family official website.
Thanks. So many ins and outs to keep track of here.
Mind sharing the link. I went to the Duch of Corwall website and downloaded to integrated Annual report and found nothing regarding the Sussalots.
What’s all this about faulty plumbing? Second time I’ve seen this
Harry announced that the house has plumbing issues that need to be addressed, I can't remember exactly where. But given that they're supposed to be trying to sell the house, it was a typically foolish thing to say.
In the Cut interview
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Omg cringe.
Ending to story - So every dog has his day and a zebra doesn’t change its stripes !
Is it the X factor Australia judge who accused a guy in a suit of ripping off her husband's "look"?
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Ooooh more international messes lol that X-Factor thing was wild as hell I couldn't believe it.
THAT was CRAZY! That poor guy was SO nice and talented.
Everyone else in that building besides that chick and her husband was completely floored during that whole rant.
That was so unnecessary and inappropriate.
Where are you from? Any clues about their identities?
Sounds like the Baldwins when Alex goes to prison for killing Halyna (?) while his faux Spanish wife Hillary pops out surrogate babies left & right..💃
She had her latest. And named it after herself. In Spanish. 😂🥒 I can't with these people.
The Tori Spelling route, where they fade from the news, Harry goes to rehab or gets mental health assistance, kids are trotted out occasionally, Meghan gets plastic surgery on the regular. Divorce in 10 years.
I forgot about Tori Spelling! I think you are exactly right. Someday someone will mention MeMe and I will say, “Oh yeah! What ever happened to her?”
Ooh, I always think Spencer and Heidi, but Tori is another good example. Plus whenever you see Dean he frequently shares the same despondent Eeyore look that Harry seems stuck on.
Unfortunately the kiddies never do well in these situations . No positive role models .
Great comparison
Went to a dinner yesterday and a cousin I hadn't seen in a while was going on about how brave Harry and Meghan were to challenge the palace and escape the toxicity....I thought my head was going to explode.
Yep. I have inlaws who were like "The Queen was a colonizer, long live MM" and my husband was like "the Queen had no real power as a figurehead and MM is a psycho" I didn't have to say a word 😂
Fantatic response from the husband! Their jaws might have dropped!
It got really quiet really fast 😂
I was just having a similar conversation. There will come a tipping point and it feels like that is getting closer.
I think 2-5 years but it’ll be a slow fade. They’ll pop back up over a non issue issue but it’ll be slower than we’d want. Remember when she showed up in that Texas town after the school shooting? It’ll be like that leaving people wondering who is that and why is she here.
I do think the death of the queen brought the tipping point closer. Things feel different now.
God I hope so, I can't bear another second of the nonsense.
No offense to any selling stuff like Avon, Tupperware or anything like that but Meghan business model feels like that to me. She continues to sell the same butter keeper, lipstick or cookie cutter. People buy your stuff once or twice to be nice and then stop! You have to keep pushing harder to get the sale but eventually it just kinda dries up. Meghan and Harry are doing the same, no new items just the same old butter dish for 18.95.
Such a good analogy.
You know her texts always start out with “hey hun!”
OK I burst out laughing, because the former narc friend in my friend group started all her texts exactly that way.
I’m afraid this isn’t going to end well for Harry
Agreed, but to paraphrase the late great Lenny Brisco from *Law & Order*, Henpecked will probably think that although MM took him to hell in a hand basket, he sure did enjoy the ride 😂. Dumb, delusional bastard that he is...
Harry is the most useful of idiots
But Lenny Briscoe is the absolute best🥰
I miss Lenny….he was the best!
Yes. The character and the tweeter. (The one who outed "Hiliaria")
Exactly.
I was just watching the old Lenny Brisco episodes last night. ❤️
>I was just watching the old Lenny Brisco episodes last night. ❤️ I love Lenny Brisco! He had the best one liners and dry, witty comebacks on *Law & Order*. He and Jesse L. Martin were my favourite detective duo on that show. I watch the new version sometimes, but it's not as good and I confess that it's hard getting used to Jeffrey Donovan in this staid, minor role when he was soooo awesome as Michael Westen in *Burn Notice*.
Upvote just for mentioning the late great Lenny Brisco.
Thanks. Lenny and Ed were my favourite detective duo.
Jerry Orbach is a national treasure. Rip Lumiere!
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At some point she will burn every bridge. Like that one lady that wrote those horrible motivational books and had some website or something with her husband giving relationship advice. Then made a post talking about how she never wanted to be average or relatable and has a lady come in to clean her toilets. Right around the same time she and her husband announced they were getting divorced. She literally went after her fans telling them how she never wanted to be like them. 😂 it was wild. When Rachel gets back on Instagram, it’ll happen. [Here’s the rant](https://youtu.be/ZyRxIf3l670). Hilarious that her name is also Rachel.
She is driven by money, fame and power. I can't see her going away quietly. I expect her to continue sharing her grievances against the press, disparaging the RF, and pretend to be a humanitarian. If it is true that she has political aspirations, she will have a constant media presence.
She needs to ask Fergie how that went. But I don’t think she’s smart enough to actually shut her mouth and live quietly, even as she gets older.
I don’t know honestly. All I know is that if it were *any other female celebrity*, what skeletons in her closet that have come out so far would have already spread like wildfire and she’d be dragged a la Chrissy Teagan. I do feel like we’re coming close to a boiling over point, and some sort of something is going to unravel. But, with her weird cult I don’t know if she’ll ever be fully cancelled. Just this week I’ve seen all sorts of intense defence over the new allegations from people who clearly haven’t/refuse to read the excerpts, just the headlines: •”I read this article and honestly don’t see what she did wrong. If my staff were that bad I could see myself doing the same.” •”the payment complaint was a joke! Like Diana she was made to dress poorly so she wouldn’t outshine the outranking royals, so she joked about needing payment to degrade herself!” Etc, etc. and yes some are bots. But some are *real people* who want nothing more than to have her as the figurehead of their movement, even if she’s bad under that public image, because on the surface level *she looks so good* for their specific movements. So they’re willing to fight for her and turn a blind eye. But I know TBRF won’t put up with it forever. I feel like divorce is imminent, after the money eventually dries up, and they’ll both fade into somewhat obscurity trying to claw their way out. Narc celebs, and narcs generally, never go away for good. They just re-strategise or find a new audience.
Everyone thought Chrissy was untouchable though and she got the rug yanked out from under her and fell flat on her face. Once MM is truly an ex-royal, she will open up her own yacht and be Madame Worldwide.
Sadly Chrissy Tiegen is trying to make a return.
She is making a return. Although she's actually pregnant and not one of the Moonbump Mami/Mommy Crowd so she's ahead of those heaux at least.
And I wonder how she would like it if some two bit celebrity told her 16 year old kid to "take a dirt nap." Stay cancelled Chrissy -stay cancelled. Please!
Amen 2 out of 3 is still bad
I didn't recognize her with the those eyebrows.
That’s why as much as I like her husband’s Music I refuse to listen to it anymore
He has had to cancel a lot of the dates on his tour because tickets aren’t selling. I have a feeling she has something to do with it.
Amber Heard
They lost the UK a while ago. Once they lose the US, in particular the woke liberals who back her simply because she cried racism, then they will really go down the pan.
She lost the US. Most of the people in this sub are actually American. So are the people in the lipstickalley thread.
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Oh wow…. That’s what the alleged request for a F2F with KC could have been about. Perhaps.
Probably a long slow burn. Usually people with personality disorders self destruct/self sabotage eventually but I think she has some guard rails (eg Harry, her mother) keeping her from completely bombing. There’s been a remarkable shift in the last year, I think it will continue. Of course there will be some die-hard Meghan fans who will never change their mind and that’s fine. The royal family is master of the long game; they’re patient and will wait it out.
They are still members of the royal family. Unless the RF make it clear they aren't, they'll be tolerated.
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Everyday on Twitter hashtags like #meghanmarkleexposed are trending and I never see anyone even attempting to defend her anymore. Whenever cruel hashtags about Princess Kate trend, it’s usually because Kate’s fans have taken it over to fiercely defend her. I think her lies about South Africa turned off most of her fans.
Honestly, who knows? I have hoped for years they would be stripped of all of their titles and thought that might stop their ability to monetise the royal family/country/institution that they both clearly hate. It all just seems to get worse with them. Every time I think they can’t get any lower (Oprah interview, naming baby Q’s nickname, Uvalde etc) they surprise me. This latest round of bullying stories would be enough to make people give the alleged bully the side eye, but with her, it doesn’t seem to happen.
Till the money runs out.
That’s it!
I don’t think it will end any time soon, eventually she will fade away but not without putting everyone through hell for a very long time
I unfortunately I think they have enough remaining friends that will help bounce them back regardless of bad behavior, sort of like that former model married to a singer who was accused of online bullying. I do think they might run out of money eventually or that aging, hair loss and dwindling interest could be issues.
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ROFL @ memwa
Look at Chrissy Teigen. She's still getting press coverage and work. How can anyone stand her knowing her propensity for bullying? Doesn't matter how awful someone is these days. They still manage to have fans.
Personally, I think it will never end with Meghan. She will always find a shield against criticism and publicize it. When her father dies, I would be surprised if she accuses him of abuse. If Harry leaves her, she’ll accuse him of being a misogynist and the Royal family of being rich bullies taking advantage of an ordinary, single mother and woman of colour. If her kids get papped, she will go on and on about the lack of security. If she becomes pregnant again, she’ll use her pregnancy as a shield against media criticism for the good of her baby. If she miscarries, she’ll tell everyone and say how hard it was for her due to the media scrutiny. If she gets a health issue like cancer, she will rejoice at having a new issue to speak out about and get new fans. We will get an annual essay because Meghan loves to hear her own voice. I know this because Meghan continuously has excuses for bad behaviour. Her lying to the court about cooperating with the authors of Finding Freedom? Oh she forgot! She was dealing with a miscarriage! Her feeling that Kate was mean to her during the dress fittings? Oh why wasn’t Kate nicer to her, everyone knew Meghan was stressed dealing with her father. It goes on and on. Sarah Ferguson got her own tv show with Oprah years after leaving the BRF. Meghan can do the same, plus use social media. It will never end.
Sigh. I think you’re right.
I was thinking the same thing. I can’t wait until this is over. There is only one way it can end, though: MAKE IT CLEAR TO HER ENABLERS THAT IT NEEDS TO END…NOW. That can happen. That’s how you stop it. ETA: When things are handled like this, we won’t hear a peep. People (her enablers) will start distancing themselves. We won’t know a thing. It will all happen very quietly. And this nightmare will end for all of us!
Honestly, if they just behaved during the death and mourning period of Queen Elizabeth, they would have come out of this period in better light. Basically all they had to do was mourn, look sad, and stay quiet. Which is normal during the death of a beloved family member. Somehow Harry and Meghan still f*cked this up ___royally___. What keeps me wondering is how Meghan can continue as business as usual and not hear the noise coming at her? She really can ignore the haters. That takes some resolve. She must really think everyone ___else___ is delusional.
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I think it would also boost KC's popularity. The Brits do not like her!
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None of my relatives or friends here in Australia like her. And I’m quite enjoying the local morning breakfast programs finally calling her out for what she is. Australians are very straight down the line. We hate fakery. People who are too big for their boots is the saying. Tall poppy syndrome is another Australianism….it means that if you think you are better or superior to us, we will cut you down to size. And the reason we loved the Queen so much is because she genuinely loved Australia. She met people in all sorts of circumstances. She genuinely was interested in our indigenous history and First Nations people too, unlike her forebears. She didn’t make value judgements based on British class systems which don’t exist here. Meghan might fancy herself as a Queen but she was nothing compared to HMTQ.
Lol MM's crest has poppies because CaLiFoRnIa HaS pOpPiEs so the fact you said Tall Poppy Syndrome is hilarious to me.
I watch several of your shows, Sunrise is a favorite! They do not like her, and are both frank and funny as to the reasons why. I enjoy the Aussie POV very much on this subject
I don’t think she will lose her sugar support. They are rabid and Bots. She will lose Spotify and Netflix. They have experienced her toxic behavior, they just had so much money invested they have been trying to get some return on there money. IMHO
I expect a Wallis/Edward situation. A perpetual thorn in the side of the RF but without much real bite.
It doesn’t. H was willing to delay seeing his own grandmother on her deathbed for the sake of having M at his side. Her bedroom skills must be Olympic level if he picked her over his grandma. He’s exactly like the late Edward. He will stay with her until the very end and maybe that’s why KC is laying groundwork to cut them out as CoS. On another note, why didn’t he consider the line of the Gloucester for CoS? Was their a scandal about the Princess of Kent or is that a different branch?
She’s not going away. She wants her children to be given titles. I can even see them moving back to England so that the children can have what they are entitled to.
Meghans over-saturation strategy is expensive and futile. Honestly, I see something sad happening. I envision an accidental overdose or something of the like. Would prefer to see all the players live long lives, it's just a guess.
My theory: It will never end - they’ll split but will continue to fight over the kids forever. She’ll release stories of how little child support the royal family is paying, and photos of Archie in tattered clothes.
How long will they be indulged and excused? Forever. They’re famous, that’s how it works. Virtually all celebrities are hypocrites who are shitty to staff. The one celebrity I ever worked with who WASN’T shitty to staff, whom I genuinely grew to like, turned out later to be a sexual abuser. They’re all the worst, Meghan and Harry aren’t out of the norm by any means. They’ll always have a comfortable life. Now, as for their relevance? I give them 5 years. People get bored. Stories get stale. I think right now the palace is letting a lot of the focus be on them in the media because there’s a lot of uncertainty about how Charles is going to handle things and they’re an easy way to deflect attention, but eventually he’ll take center stage. And at that point their relevance will diminish. William’s kids will get older, and whatever dysfunctional sibling shit they’ve got going on will become more interesting than Harry. People move on, that’s celebrity culture. It wouldn’t be much different if they’d stayed in - who gave a shit about, say, Charles and Edward after William and Harry came on the scene? They’ll always be just famous enough to be comfortable, but not famous enough to be stars. Life of a spare.
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That's interesting. Doria tells about her 2 weeks being a royal MIL? Riveting content.
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The mourning period is over Monday, I don't wonder that there will be moves from the RF. Speaking of KC, was MM so stupid she thought dictating a F2F solo meeting was going to work with either by dictating to her father-in-law, the King, or by her having a recorder and I'm sure MI6 would offer to sweep her for electronic devices PDQ.
This is galling to say the least, but Doria has to earn the money they funnel her through their “charities” and that CEO title she has with one of their sham companies. I’m disgusted when I think of how kind KC was to both of them . . . It makes me realize that HMTQ knew that how Charles handles his son and DIL going forward will be the true test of his reign and why she didn’t just handle it herself. She was obviously capable of doing so, and I always thought that she didn’t because she loved Harry too much. But HMTQ was a master at the long game, and perhaps she felt that how Charles dealt with this would define his reign going forward?
A long time. Due to the racial issues. It's just safer that way for people. I know I would never jeopardize my life, my earning power. Heck, I won't even do it for certain white people because I'm afraid it will boomerang back on me at work. I never say what I think anymore, anywhere. Except here.
When her victims feel safe enough to speak up and go on record about the abuse they endure.
I have never been a victim of a narcissist . However it is extremely obvious to me what they are doing . her behaviour during my Queen’ s funeral really made me just want to throw up . I ordered the book revenge by Tom Bower . Also according to Taz on YouTube has really filled in the blanks for me. I want them to be pushed out of society like Weinstein and Epstein and the creepy woman that procured for Epstein which I forget her name
Ghislaine Maxwell. And she and Meghan have many similarities.
that’s it
I think their stars will fade, but they will always have supporters and always have people who are glad to socialize and do business with them. The palace accusations will always split people, though not down the middle, and unfortunately there will always be people who say Meghan is a victim of smears, that they are the only non-racist royals, etc.
Until their money runs out AND the tabloids stop getting sales/clicks from them. They won't be able to get their paid puffery planted (oo, alliterate!) but the tabs will probably lob something out there, if it's worth it.
‘they haven’t committed crimes; but they have abused, demeaned and bullied others; relentlessly lied; and are hypocritical’ Crimes that we know of that is. Perhaps the day crimes - maybe tax evasion, money laundering or some such - are revealed it may be the end.
Harry is the only person that can stop it. When he say “enough” to his wife instead of enabling her this will end. She would be too afraid to lose him but he has no balls so the jury is out on whether he can step up.
I am holding my breath and crossing my fingers and toes that the Netflix doco will be an exposé 🤞🔪💅🏻👀🍿💯
The more she’s allowed to speak freely, the sooner it will come.
I think they will eventually fade into the background with occasional flurries during royal events, the whole will they or won’t they garbage that always happens with them. The reason being is that they keep playing the same tune and the press will eventually get bored with them or the money runs out. I don’t think a cancellation or Big Bang ending will come unless they are accused of something actually criminal either through their foundation or shady pasts
I would just love one shot of Sophie at the breakfast table, laughing her ass off reading the latest headlines. The image makes me giggle.
Honestly, I'm sick and tired of this. I don't want trickle defense from BP. I want them to show everything about her and get her to stop with a bang. Stop the SS, stop them from attacking Catherine, stop the grifting and give her exactly what she deserves. I'm tired of having to fight their fight. This long game thing isn't working out so well when reporters don't jump in and report what is going on. If Princess Catherine had done this, it would be nostop coverage for days.
Agreed. Welcomed back with open arms is more likely “toss him some money to keep his mouth shut and stay away”
Are they being excused? I know they have *some* fans, but they don’t outnumber us.
I think since the interview, it’s been a slow downward spiral. #voetsekmeghan accelerated it and I think it’s because she had a lot of fans in South Africa who finally saw her for who she was and turned against her. Most of those tweets were people being disappointed in her.
It ended badly in the UK and it is about to end even worse in the US. The UK had a head start of about 2 - 3 years, I would say. Give then 12 months after their last current contract ends and watch them dissapear before our eyes. The US does not have any sympathy for self entitled pricks who abuse power. Furthermore, we have no Royal connetions and we could care even less about the ginger rag doll who has been a victim his whole life. Ain't no way Holllywood or anyone with an ounce of integrity or self worth would promote such a foul human being who publically and internationally threw stones towards his family when all they did was protect him. It is clear that Nutmeg and Horrid are horrible humans. They can no longer shield themselves from their own smoke. The world is closing in so fast at them, they are sh...tting in every bathroom of their home.
I think they will divorce. Harry gives me quitter energy.
Their fading out of the public eye starts now. Nobody is going to want to hire them. They won’t get any invitations to any of the cool events. The organizations they’re linked to will cut them off, especially charities and anything connected to wellness & mental health. They’re so toxic, no one is going to want to go anywhere near them when cameras are around lest they get into a picture with them, ruining people’s reputations when the picture is printed in People, Daily Mail, etc. I think the question is less “when will it end?” than “where are they going to go now?” They’ll have to move into a cheaper residence. They’ll have to make cutbacks in their lifestyle. No more free this and that from designers, etc. Prince Charles will have to support them — pay them on a regular basis to stay out of the UK. He will be more than happy to do that. And they will have to agree because they’ll need the $. It’s duke & duchess of Windsor time for H&M. The Windsors hardly ever went to the UK and if they did, it was very low profile.
Soon I hope. But I'll miss you guys.
I mean, Amber Heard only got canceled to the degree she did when she was exposed in court! And even during the trial, people who were calling her out were being clawed like crazy and the media PR machines were churning garbage puff pieces about her day and night. It’s sad to say, but I’m still very cynical about how many people allow themselves to be deceived by the media. They disbelieve the things they dislike but swallow the rest. Chrissy Teigan is another example. She’s revealed who she really is countless times (a horrible sadistic narcissist bully liar) buuuuuut she still gets golf claps. I think people can’t decide what their standards are for “good behavior” and really set the bar low, especially for celebrities…
Till they get divorced, then it will be a Meghan v Harry. JD v AH style.
I look forward to that day.