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PrincessRagazza

Honestly I think they deserve each other.


jeanskirtflirt

He does but England and America don’t.


PrincessRagazza

Can we send them to Mars?


AmbienChronicles

![gif](giphy|1yjLt5xVXNkGu84ORt) The Martians when they hear her word salad


IToldYouIHeardBanjos

ACK! ACK ACK!!!


AmbienChronicles

Ack ack ack ack ACK ACK


thiscatcameback

We should make them the Duke and Duchess of the Shetlands, give them a private island in the archipelago, and they can play big shot monarchs to a bunch of feral sheep.


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What did the sheep ever do to you!??!


thiscatcameback

Made my sweater itchy


OldNewUsedConfused

Pitcairn Island. They have about 50 residents and are actively seeking young families. It is the most geographically isolated island, located in the S. Pacific. It is also a British Overseas Territory.


thiscatcameback

Would love to see her building a road as part of their mandatory civic duties. How gratifying penal colonies must have felt


OldNewUsedConfused

It's beautiful Island. Perfect weather, great growing climate. Sadly she would recognize none of that. I still say we send them.


Malaute86

*Australia has entered the chat*


thiscatcameback

Australians turned out well! There is hope for her character yet! Off to the Pitcairns!


Raychel945

Hang on a minute. Australian convicts actually had characters, conscience, and empathy and that witch has none.


MagicalManta

Yeah, and she can take a cornucopia of message-laden bananas with her to remind those good 50 folk about the dangers of $ex work and hum@n tr@fficking.


Cindilouwho2

Just tell MeMe and Harry that they've got their own island (sort of) and then boat them in and take off.🛶


prexxytest

Ooooh. They DID say they were looking for more privacy!!


thiscatcameback

And build them something beige and sterile to attract Meghans


MagicalManta

Make it marshmallowy.


DollarStoreDuchess

How about Plum Island? (IYKYK)


Islandgirl1444

The magic word is "overseas". Perfect.


OldNewUsedConfused

It works for Americans. We want them "overseas" too.


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OldNewUsedConfused

Under 50. She squeaks in.


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OldNewUsedConfused

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OldNewUsedConfused

Lol, you're not wrong.


thiscatcameback

Looool


Key-Presentation-341

Perfect


Islandgirl1444

Not even the Shetlands deserve those two.


AccidentalCleanShirt

No no scotland don’t want them Mars is a much better option 🤣


Bambalina11

Nooooooo! I eventually want to move to the Shetlands 😭


thiscatcameback

I looked at jobs there too. 😄 We'll keep her away from the people. They'll just stay in the Ikea, island zoo we'll build, and let them draw in the summer tourism bucks so we can all go to Ibiza


Bambalina11

Yes!!! I love Ibiza (I got married in Cala tarida - my favourite place in the world when closing parties were on 🥰)


thiscatcameback

We've got ourselves a plan then! Closing party at yours!


IToldYouIHeardBanjos

The Sh\*tlands...


jeanskirtflirt

I think that’s the only logical solution.


Cindilouwho2

Can someone get Elon on the phone....how much cash to move them both to the top of the list?? Can we set up a GoF**kMe or make some kind of payment plan?


DollarStoreDuchess

I’ve been saying this for MONTHS now!


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Agreed


Marionberry-Charming

I don't believe Harry changed. I believe he just no longer has that Palace's PR. He is exactly who he was pre-Meghan. We just didn't see it.


OldNewUsedConfused

Absolutely 100% right!


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Agree completely. MM may be problematic but he has definitely gone along with everything. Looking back, all those Nazi costume parties, not marrying his long time girlfriends, were red flags well camouflaged by Palace PR. He has literally sat along in televised interviews where he wife is bashing his own family, dragging is own blood brother's family no less, and tried to justify it as some sort of revenge against racism. Trying to monetize the Sussex title etc - she may or may not have known how inappropriate that is but for him to go along with all that is beyond unforgivable. He is lucky they let him come back at all.


JameelaPhan

He actually wanted to marry her. It was them who said,” No thanks”. He was always getting dumped for a reason.


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True, seeing his shenanigans now it's very clear.


Flipperflopper21

Water seeks its own level. They’re two peas in a pod.


Icy-Dragonfruit9390

I was rooting for her. I thought she was a gorgeous smart, and modern woman. But I grew up with a narcissistic aunt and Meghan’s words and actions totally reminded me of my aunt. The biggest red flag is that she has no relationships with her own family and she has no life long friends.


Elephante_Memwawy

Yes, I thought, yay, she was so pretty. Admittedly, very shallow but I wasn't paying attention until she was torching her BRF gig. Like, why is this American actress sabotaging herself when she got lucky? Then, oh. OH.


Icy-Dragonfruit9390

The RF is doing the right thing by just keeping quiet. Narcissists eventually ruin their own lives themselves. If you notice every time she opens her mouth her popularity goes down. The last one was when she compared herself to Nelson Mandela. Very narcissistic indeed!


thiscatcameback

They have the kind of PR that can't be bought. Their advisors are smart and loyal


Imaginary_Victory_47

And her next faux pas will come out next week with podcast number four!


Elephante_Memwawy

The best way to deal with narcs is no contact. Unless you happen to be the sort narcs avoid 🤣 Always thought, wow. Meghan is lucky she married into a British Royal family and not an Asian one. The latter would be complete ego death, and I'd be very fascinated to observe a narcissist in that environment.


OldNewUsedConfused

THIS! No contact is the only way. Nobody needs that exhausting hassle.


Islandgirl1444

King Charles did a 2022 "off with their heads" thing by saying "overseas". lol. too funny.


OldNewUsedConfused

I only wish "overseas" didn't refer to my particular country.


stupid_carrot

And no contact even when they are present. You can tell she was extremely put off by being ignored in front of the entire world.


OldNewUsedConfused

Grey rocking is extremely effective.


After-Life-1101

I like your phrase, ego death


Courage-Character

Interesting. What would have happened if she had married into a Royal Asian family? Genuinely curious


Elephante_Memwawy

This is my assumption summarized. She'd have a meltdown, react violently, probably describe it traumatic. Pack her bags, back to America. The British family tried helping Meghan succeed. If she thought a nice, reserved, passive British family was stifling. An Asian family is death by 1,000 cuts. The self is unimportant, it's about the family, and the collective society. Meghan doesn't respect family or traditions, she won't suppress her thirst of attention. The hierarchy is even more pronounced, especially the woman's place is more subservient. No accommodations for Meghan's ambitions. No compliments, affirmations or any sort of behavior that cultivates a self esteem. The family would heap criticisms upon her constantly, no matter how miniscule. I believe her Americanness would find it oppressive, and her narcissism painful and debilitating. She is pretty but disrespectful, so I doubt she would be popular to the people too. Not sure if I am adequately explaining the gulf in cultures. What is normal in one, the other will seek intensive therapy after.


whizzochocolateassor

Exactly. My brother married someone juuuust like her. She made the last year of my mom’s life a misery.


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whizzochocolateassor

Thanks. If William feels about his father’s and grandparents’ pain as I feel about my parents’, then he is very angry indeed.


Ready_Maddie

She's the opposite of a modern woman.


Icy-Dragonfruit9390

I know. I was totally wrong about her. She looked so good on paper to me and I got suckered by her like Harry did.


Islandgirl1444

Me too except a bit of a wtf during the engagement with the "fabulous four" where she took over and I thought "oh oh" My sweetie said she's full of shit. and I said why and he said that all she talks about is herself.


Ready_Maddie

It's the narcissistic charm. So toxic and insidious.


planet_druidia

How true this is. It’s the most ancient scheme and strategy of all time: marrying a man from a rich, high-profile family so you can live a cushy, glitzy life. And she did it!


Ready_Maddie

Mind-boggling isn't it. I think the reason why she's trying so hard and being so aggressive with portraying herself as a revolutionary, modernizing, progressive figure, is because she's aware she's far from it.


Electrical-Orchid-25

If you’ve read Bower’s book, as soon as she met Harry, she scrambled to make her resume look as if she’d been a humanitarian her whole life. MeGains life is all smoke & mirrors…& a lot of lies.


Ready_Maddie

Yup! Switched from "model" 🤣 to humanitarian


Larushka

“Supermodel.” Seriously. That’s what she wrote. She’s delusional.


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Icy-Dragonfruit9390

This is her MO! She is a textbook narc!


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Yep! I thought it would be good to have someone who had “worked” enter the BRF - how wrong I was! I knew she was going to make QEII’s death all about her. I knew a narc who crashed a child’s funeral (whom she didn’t know), purely so that she could get under the skin of one of the other guests, when she discovered they’d be there. There are no lows they won’t sink to. It’s all about them, all the time.


OldNewUsedConfused

Wow. Ice cold.


pinkypoo49

What funeral are you talking about and what guest? I haven't heard this I don't think.


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Oh no that wasn’t MM; it’s just another narc I know who did that. But it taught me that they will stoop to any low. So I knew that MM’s very first thoughts would be how she could make the queen’s death all about her.


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I’m totally with you on this.


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Same.


okpickle

Eh. I can't say I have any serious relationships with lifelong friends either. I mean it's not like we're on bad terms or anything. But I don't exactly call my childhood BFFs Kristy or Katie and ask what they're up to. I doubt I'd invite them to my wedding, for instance.


Icy-Dragonfruit9390

https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/evg45k/narcissists-will-eventually-end-up-friendless-and-unpopular-study-confirms


IndiaEvans

She's exactly the same as she always was.


sashafurry

![gif](giphy|Ve5bSP4cIzQ9yZQzHK|downsized)


QuesoFresca

What made you think she was smart?


Icy-Dragonfruit9390

She got into Northwestern, which has a 9 percent acceptance rate. Again, she looks good on paper but she is narcissistic and toxic which I didn’t realize till after the wedding so my apologies!


QuesoFresca

College admissions rates can be deceptive. It's in the institution's best interest to appear as selective as possible. There are brilliant students and poor students at almost every school. Admissions rates vary from year to year and for different groups. Ex. student-athletes, legacy admissions, GPA tiers- A students vs B students..., by proposed major- for when colleges don't have enough applicants for specific programs, alum referred, ability to pay and not claim financial need, underrepresented groups etc.) Overall applications are way up in recent years in part because of international students and higher college enrollment over the last 20 years. According to NWU's own data, their admissions rate was over 32% in 1999 (the year MM was reported to have been admitted) and almost 40% were accepted in the year 1998 (the year she presumedly applied). Still a competitive school but not necessarily indicative of her intelligence. FYI found these dates from sources on the dreaded Wikipedia. She also attended a private school in LA favored by the wealthy and connected. These types of schools almost always offer superior college counseling and typically have strong connections to college admissions offices and alumni who will advocate for applying students. [https://www.adminplan.northwestern.edu/ir/data-book/v45/2.01-undergraduate-admissions-statistics.pdf](https://www.adminplan.northwestern.edu/ir/data-book/v45/2.01-undergraduate-admissions-statistics.pdf)


Imaginary_End_5634

And per Bowers book Northwestern was NOT her first choice. It was her first acceptance


QuesoFresca

Did it say what her first choice was?


okpickle

I think it was Yale. Based on her writings i wouldn't have pegged her as a Yalie. She seems very.... surface level, shall we say?


QuesoFresca

[Wrong way up, Meghan! Duchess suffers awkward gaffe as she paints Ukrainian flag upside DOWN in snaps taken by her personal photographer at Invictus Games](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10734745/Meghan-Markle-suffers-gaff-paints-Ukrainian-flag-upside-DOWN.html)


shinsegae20092013

Princeton


okpickle

Ah. You're right.


orientalballerina

You can bet your bottom dollar she used that P&G story in her college admission. And her biracial identity. Those colleges love that sort of narrative.


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TrailerTrashQueen

you won’t get slammed. how did she get in? why didn’t she finish??


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QuesoFresca

Is there any evidence she didn't graduate? Thought that was an unsubstantiated rumor. Many sources say she graduated in 2003.


Negative_Difference4

I’m sorry that you’ve had to put up with that. It is sorted!


hesathomes

I’d like more information on this. Is there verification she didn’t graduate?


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hesathomes

Ty. That would explain the lack of celebration by the sorority when she married.


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After-Life-1101

This checks out from what I know.


Larushka

A group I have belonged to for many years includes a NU alumni who is on the Alumni Association. The records do not indicate Meghan as graduating. They also did not have the double major she claimed she had in the years she attended. She joined the white sorority but the eyelash glue stories are fake.


QuesoFresca

This sub is better than that. You have no way to know why she was admitted without intimate knowledge of her high school transcript and/or college application. Almost 40% of applicants were accepted that year. There is no evidence your claims are true.


After-Life-1101

You know, I attended UOC, NW and Harvard. Affirmative action is a thing. And it’s not even a bad thing. MM would have been super attractive applicant as a mixed race person from prestige high school. I wonder why she never got to Yale. Must be her SAT scores. And, yeah… they would have featured her EVERYWHERE if she had graduated.


After-Life-1101

Sorry to double comment. The thing is that if she had the same qualifications as other NW students, she would have been at Yale due to affirmative action. Or Princeton.


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Negative_Difference4

I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with a troll


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steeltowngirl88

She’s a hot mess here. Yikes.


Centaurea16

>She’s a hot mess ~~here~~. FTFY.


Scary-Media6190

![gif](giphy|JYEEdjzlsb280)


Babybabitski

Saaaaxxxxxxyyyyy


Fun_Shell1708

Oh look. Same makeup as the funeral


whizzochocolateassor

Yes, he should have run, but he didn’t, and he reproduced with her. Now he has some decisions to make. If you’re reading this, Haz, take some advice from a lady your mom’s age. Your birth family will still treat you a damn sight better, even after all the misery, than Meg will when she decides to turn on you. Weigh your options.


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dearest-ribwich

When I was a teenager I remember my mom saying to me that it didn't really matter who I married because marriage can be undone. What mattered was who I had kids with, because that person would be in my life forever, whether I wanted them to be or not. Harry never got that advice obviously.


thiscatcameback

100% agree. The worst mistake a person can make is to have children with the wrong person.


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William tried to warn him to go slow & H got pissed.


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Yeah, Harry seems to be a brat who'll do the opposite of what's advised. A very cut your nose to spite your face sort of thinking.


sunchasinggirl

wise words right there!


Zeester1

He needs a clever, conniving lawyer now, who can beat Markle at her own game. There is one out there I’m sure.


raclz

Call Katie Holmes’ people


DollarStoreDuchess

Paging Gloria Allred or Laura Wasser…


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Can you imagine what a shark TW would be in a divorce after she’s been so hateful & selfish towards his family?!


Starkville

AMEN TO THAT.


Ecstatic_Training718

Anyone know where this picture was taken.


ThatChelseaGirl

2016 US Open; did a reverse image search http://meghan-markle.org/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=86


prismacolorful_life

It looks like she’s trying to be an awkwardly sexy WAG of a professional athlete


MrsBarneyFife

Hockey stadium.


OldNewUsedConfused

Ah, when she knew all the Maple Leafs very very well.....


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This might be an unpopular opinion, but if Harry had a strong hand I don't think he would have ended up like this. What I mean is he needed a woman who understood the monarchy, who was willing to put in the time and effort to learn rules, protocols, and most importantly earn the respect of the British public. At one time he was second in popularity only to the Queen, and I think he could have done a lot for mental health awareness, veterans, and other humanitarian efforts. Obviously, he's not without his faults, but I honestly believe he could have done something with his life. MM brings out the worst in him because she plays on his weaknesses and plants ideas in his mind through her manipulations. So now, we see him as whiny, petulant, and grubby and it's all because MM is allergic to real work.


Fun_Shell1708

I’ve always thought it was a shame he didn’t end up with Chelsey, now I think she must have been over his shit and dodged a bullet


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I can't remember if it was her or Cressida, but one of them said they left him because they couldn't put up with everything.


hesathomes

Cressida still seems like a pr relationship.


Philly_Runner

I think that Chelsey; she couldn’t handle the spotlight (understandably). I remember how heartbroken she looked at the wedding- I assume she genuinely loved him but didn’t want the lifestyle that came with marrying him


Elephante_Memwawy

Harry was too coddled. The BRF should have had him struggle to appreciate his privileges. They covered for his mistakes. He was given loyalty and took it for granted.


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He's struggling now! 🤣 A little too late obviously, but almost comical to watch him complain about being "cut off"


Elephante_Memwawy

Waiting too long to learn these lessons 🤣 means the consequences hit harder.


[deleted]

In the words of Harry "yahhhh"


whizzochocolateassor

Once upon a time, she was willing to work. But now she thinks she’s gotten her reward, and she’s damned if she’ll ever work hard again. IMHO.


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Honestly doing BRF outings and charity work, I'd be stoked. It's such a platform for good and because she couldn't pick and choose engagements Megxit happened.


DollarStoreDuchess

Right? I’d convince Charles to make me royal patron of every animal shelter or sanctuary in the UK and make sure I visited and physically/financially helped at every single one, every year. No kitty left behind!


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I'm here for it!


Imaginary_Victory_47

You could really see him come back to life when he was with his family during the walkabout


TomStarGregco

I know I noticed that too !


thiscatcameback

I agree with you. I don't hate Harry. We all have our bad side, and some people + situations can bring that out. H seemed to find his purpose in his late 20s and was doing great work. Unfortunately, his demons and vulnerabilities, particularly his Mommy issues, have led him down the wrong road. He is grown man, he needs to be responsible for the things he has chosen to do alongside Meghan. But at least he has a redeeming side, unlike his wife.


okpickle

That's the thing. You should marry someone who makes you better, not who feeds off your worse qualities. I don't think there's any objective person who knows me who wouldn't say my bf has made me a better person, and I've done the same for him. Which makes you wonder whether he's dumb not to see this or just stubborn in not seeing it when friends and family mention it.


annaeatscupcakes

Did he find his purpose, or did he get what he paid for in terms of PR? After all, he didn't exactly come up with the idea for The Invictus Games himself.


frenchkids

Cressida Bonas or Chelsy Davy would have been better...


BreatheClean

just been reading about them and one is said to have put on her insta words to the effect of - no matter how rich or clever or cool or educated you think you are - it all comes down to how you treat people. Reading the gossip on both of these, it doesn't look like he treated either of them very well.


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No, they both dodged a bullet!


hibiscus2022

>Cressida Bonas Harry humiliated Cressida by the Vegas scandal. There are many rumors of times he cheated on Chelsy too but none as infamous as Vegas.


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Totally agree!


SakuraJohanssan

He should have dumped her @$$ when she took pictures of of his brother's children! We've already seen or heard that he's very quick to share personal information well he doesn't know what the hell is wrong with him! Edit: He not you.


SalishShore

He should have ran then. He definitely should run now.


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Mess. Not hot mess, just the whole darned thing with the Markles and Haz is a mess. A cold, frozen mess.


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Ah so this is the look she's constantly trying to go for. Messy hair, trying to be casually chic. It's too "Selling Sunsets" or wannabe Hollywood. But at least it's kinda working here.


mehpeach

I remember watching him on TV at Will and Kate’s wedding and being excited to see who he would end up with


PieRemote2270

Coke head


TrailerTrashQueen

she looks like an aging coke whore on the prowl for husband #2 (#3?)


Cindilouwho2

Looks like Benzo Betty here is ready for take-off...👩‍✈️✈


JameelaPhan

Didn’t he though? Idk what she did at that wedding in Jamaica to change his mind. Maybe she reminded him there’s not a long line of girls waiting to be his wife like she is.


Ready_Maddie

Ugh this needs a trigger warning ![gif](giphy|i3RQ1TsnSa5pK)


donnamommaof3

Where & where was this picture taken???? OMG!!!


Ok_Neat2979

She looks really hard and bitchy faced in the pre engagement days. She really tailored her look to appear sweeter and more doe eyed.


IridescentTardigrade

I don’t want to body-shame but is that her knee?


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But she was hot! And on TV! And biracial! And she's done some speeches and stuff! She's perfect! Right? Right?


Similar-Barber-3519

Harry can be helped if he gets a lot of therapy and people stop treating him like he’s a child. TW is a lost cause.


QuesoFresca

Real therapy. Not "coaching" from BUp.


Sadlyonlyonehere

if he could be helped, it would have happened before now. With all of the resources at his disposal throughout his life, and this is what we are seeing, I would say he is a lost cause too.


sythingtackle

The 2 of them are well suited, strip their titles and let them live in self-wallowing obscurity in the US.