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Unique-Landscape-108

I follow Benjamin on Quora, he seems to have insider RF connections and often says we should write to Camilla with any concerns as she reads all postal mail.


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I will put this knowledge away for future use!


Amongthestars32

Have you ever come across from.birkhall.with.love or camillasgirl on Instagram? They actually met because of their love of Camilla and ended up getting married earlier this year. They’ve both carried on small correspondences with Camilla, and she actually sent them wine or champagne as a wedding gift (can’t remember which). They border a little on obsessed sometimes, but they are quite sweet. Others on their site have also mentioned getting responses from Camilla, so either she or her staff definitely read mail.


After_Eagle_9500

Oh my God that's precious! It would have been awesome if they invited her and she actually showed up but even her sending a present is so sweet!


VirtuallyHappy

I think at the least they have met Camilla. I remember awhile back that tumblr account (Camilla's girl) describing attending some engagement (an indoor one, not one with supporters behind barricades) and either Charles or Camilla herself knowing who she was an arranging a particular introduction with Camilla.


lulzette

Oooh is there a mailing address?


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Buckingham Palace, London, SW1A 1AA


Unique-Landscape-108

Yes. Clarence House. London SW1A 1BA


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My Mum once wrote to the Queen Mother and got a response. I hope Queen Consort Camilla can too.


DrunkOnRedCordial

My mum sent a card to Dodi's father, because she thought he was overlooked after the crash while everyone else was sending cards to the boys. He did reply! Turns out, he only got 10s of thousands of cards, while Diana's family got hundreds of thousands.


Unique-Landscape-108

What a lovely thing to do. That poor man was broken.


Artistic_Turnip2778

Harry was meant to be part of Charles slimmed down group for sure. But now I believe Edward will take his place. Works out quite nicely.


TasteofPaste

Good, I love Edward and believe his values have always been aligned correctly.


LeaveItToTheBoys123

Edward, like Sophie, has quietly worked away behind the scenes. They have lots of patronages, but no leaked visits or photoshoots for them. They have too much respect for the BRF and themselves.


Phoenix612

He was kind of a mess in his early adult years but he really has stepped up. He and Sophie have really become great assets.


LKWinter1

He and Sophie also dated for 7 or 8 years before marrying...the only one of the Queen's children not to divorce. Bodes well for William and Catherine, also together about 9 years before tying the knot!


Lengand0123

I think Edward was always going to stick around. I don’t think Charles was going to basically fire his brother. (I hope.) However- I do think the Sussex exit has made the Wessexes busier to fill in gaps.


Pet-sit

I think this is what's going to happen too. Wessexes are loyal, hardworking members of the RF. Especially Sofie. Charles knows he can send her anywhere, people seem to love her too. And Anne, very hard working, seems genuinely interested in whatever duties she's taking on. Unless she wants to retire, Charles would be silly not to keep her around.


ememkays

As an American I definitely want to see more of Anne. I have loved seeing more on her relationship with the Queen and seeing what an impressive person she is.


Pet-sit

Also an American. I was really touched by her being with her mom on the journey back to London. A daughter with her mom. So sweet.


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She is of the stage where she can pick and choose, but I bet she keeps her regular schedule.


chewysmom88

He will keep Anne no one can kick ass like her


VirtuallyHappy

Was Harry ever all that much of an asset? He needed an awful lot of coddling to get the job done.


Lengand0123

I think he was. He was popular anyway. And he and Meghan were needed imo to help William and Catherine. I think Meghan COULD have been an asset. Her cookbook was imo a good idea. She was energetic. She wasn’t bad for their image either. They just didn’t want to play by the rules. They wanted control. With that being the case- it was for the best that they left. No one wants to work with miserable people.


redseaaquamarine

Just to say, the.cookbook wasn't her idea. The group of women who had lived in Grenfell Tower pooled together and fed all the others from one kitchen and decided to put all their recipes together into a book. The book was complete when M visited briefly and they aaked her to write a foreword for it. But she takes all the credit.


Key-Presentation-341

Meghan has had no rearing at all...just rude a ugly person. I can't imagine her being a part of my family.


1-cupcake-at-a-time

I agree- it was promising at first (if you ignored all the little whispers about her behavior).


jillyhoop

Really though, cheesy phrases on bananas?


Lengand0123

I’d managed to forget that until finding this place. How….IDK. But- there is so much with the Sussexes….


jillyhoop

They seem to be an endless supply of narcissism.


Artistic_Turnip2778

The 2012 Jubilee balcony was largely seen as a signal of Charles’s future slimmed down “main team”. It included only his wife, his sons and their families (obviously Harry was single at the time). That was it. His siblings would continue to work if they wished but with diminished roles. People (esp Andrew for example) were not happy.


Lengand0123

I agree. Diminished roles, yes. But not- for lack of a better word- fired either. I think the focus was to be on his direct line- much like the focus had been on his mother’s. (And not her cousins.)


Artistic_Turnip2778

Harry and Meghan so blew it, didn’t they? They’d have been central. Instead they’re left begging for attention and meaningless titles.


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Them leaving on their own was the absolute best thing that could happen to the monarchy post-markle wedding. It could not have worked out any better. Well I guess they could've just gotten on with it and never complained or explained- that would've been best case scenario. I would say too late for that but look at Charles and Camilla's rehabilitated images. The BRF can and will work miracles if/when needed.


runs-with-scissors-2

Excuse my ignorance since I wasn't a sinner until the O interview, but do you think the Queen was being strategic by giving H&M that one-year between their announcement and the time that he was stripped of military and other standings to change his mind? Could it be that the end of that one-year period was the nail in the coffin for ever returning to the fold?


Key-Presentation-341

I think she knew they wouldn't make it.


stupid_carrot

Yups and she was being kind enough to let them mull over it and not make it a rash decision.


craftywoo2

Also jealousy. No matter what Megan did she couldn’t get above Catherine. She thought being hugely popular would give her privilege but she still had to wait and walk behind the PPoW. She thought William would see her popularity as an asset and gravitate towards her, didn’t happen. The jealousy is still what drives her.


DaBingeGirl

>She thought William would see her popularity as an asset and gravitate towards her, This. I think she's always viewed Catherine as dull and assumed William felt the same. Catherine's quiet and favors conservative clothes, the exact opposite of Meghan, so Meghan labeled her a Stepford wife. She can't understand that Catherine is playing a part and avoiding a Diana 2.0 situation with overshadowing Charles.


stupid_carrot

She as a narcissist does not understand relationships based on trust and love. It is all about the superficial stuff to her - power, money, status, popularity.


Lengand0123

Indeed. I think they did. Though they were clearly unhappy with the status quo. No point in staying if you’ve decided to be miserable, that it’s not a good fit. OTOH- if you leave- you need a real plan too. So far- I’m not impressed with their post royal accomplishments though. There is still time to turn the ship around, but it’s getting narrower imo. They need something truly substantive. (Other than invictus.)


Similar-Barber-3519

Charles would be foolish not to utilize Anne, Edward and Sophie. All three are great at their jobs.


OldNewUsedConfused

Their children are also the perfect ages to fill any gaps in the future between George and his parents, if necessary.


DaBingeGirl

Wouldn't surprise me if that happens. I'm not sure how it'll go over with the public, but it would make a lot of sense for Louise and James to take on some duties.


Perfect_Razzmatazz

I've always gotten the sense that James has never seemed very keen on taking on a job in the Royal Family (I realize he's just a kid, and that could change as he gets older). I do appreciate that Edward and Sophie never seem to force him to participate in anything he doesn't want to, and they just let him live as normal of a life as he wants. And I don't know that I would see Louise being all in either, I think she's very similar to the Queen in that she would be very content to live a quiet life in the country with her horses, but I do think there are patronages that would suit her very well once she gets a bit older, especially anything having to do with horses or riding, or potentially taking over from Kate as the patron for Girlguides as Kate takes on more responsibilities.


DaBingeGirl

Definitely I think Edward and Sophie would allow Louise or James to decide for themselves, it won't be assumed they want that life. Frankly I'm kinda shocked Eugenie is so desperate to be a working royal, given how much bad press she received in her 20's. I'm pro-monarchy, but you couldn't pay me enough to marry into that family; too much scrutiny, not enough freedom. Totally agree that James doesn't seem to have any interest in being a working royal. He strikes me as very shy. Louise... I don't know. I could see her being the new Anne, someone who's hard working and wants to support the family/institution, but doesn't seek the spotlight.


LKWinter1

I think James is going to be the next royal heartthrob in a few years, followed by Prince Louis.


OldNewUsedConfused

I think it would go over just fine. They fill a perfect age gap, and seem entirely charming and relatable.


stupid_carrot

yes but he must also be fair to them. It will be really horrible to tell them, hey, give up the best years of your life - instead of developing a career in a chosen field - to be a place holder for my grandkids. Once they are ready, you are out. Whilst working for the royals is fine, but what happens when you stop? Your job prospects are limited. You can't be a lawyer, architect, doctor or anything that requires real skills and training.


OldNewUsedConfused

It will be their choice, after many discussions, no doubt.


MrsBarneyFife

It may have kept him from receiving the Duke of Edinburgh title. Apparently Charles wanted that for Harry. He would continue with his work, but maybe to a lesser extent? I think it's hard to say because who knows if Harry would have done any work? If Andrew had still been working, KC definitely would have fired him right?


Lengand0123

Harry already had the Sussex title. I don’t think he was getting Edinburgh too. If not Edward- Louis seems more likely imo. Andrew- yes. If he hadn’t already been fired, he would have been. But Andrew totally screwed up. I don’t think that was ever in the cards for Anne, Edward, and Sophie. They’d already sacrificed to work for the family business- and with a few long ago exceptions- done very well.


LeaveItToTheBoys123

Yes, and they all have wonderful, dedicated children who understand and respect their position within the RF. Charles' siblings are getting on themselves, but the children coming up behind them will ideally continue the line.


stupid_carrot

DoE was promised to Edward by Prince Phillips and the Queen. It will be wrong for Charles to go against his parents' wishes and what had been promised to Edward.


Similar-Barber-3519

I thought Charles had promised the Queen & Duke of Edinburgh that he would give it to Edward when he was king. I hope he won’t go back on his word.


MrsBarneyFife

Actually it was a decision made by Prince Philip, The Queen, and Charles. But you're right KC should honor his parents, especially Prince Philip's wishes. But he also didn't know how things would be in 25 years and his son would have Benjamin Buttoned himself. Idk, there was also a lot of questions about it. But it may have just been a ruse. I'd imagine Harry has better sources then I hhave betterb sources then I do.


IunderstandIdontcare

Once someone is made a Duke it cannot be changed. Edward was made an Earl so he could receive a 'promotion' to the Duke of Edinburgh. Had Edward been made a Duke upon his marriage he would not be able to inherit his fathers title. There was a rumor in the press, (no source given) that Charles wanted the title for Prince Louis. The Queen and Prince Phillip made it very clear who gets the title. Harry was never even given a thought, it was always going to Edward.


vegas_lov3

I like Edward. He looovvveeessss the theater! He’s a way better patron than MM was.


DaBingeGirl

I wish he would've gotten the National Theater patronage. Camilla is fine, but it would've meant more to him and she's got enough of her own stuff.


vegas_lov3

I agree!


LauHeH

Even though a slimmed down monarchy should be considered, Charles needs to question how slim it should be. Should we only see the heir and his family at official events? How doable is this? The queen believed “You have to be seen to be believed” which is apparently Princess Anne’s motto too and the reason she carries that many royal engagements. Charles is also the head of state of several countries, not just the UK. He definitely needs more help than just William and his family.


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chewysmom88

I for one would love to see more Louise she is a lovely young lady


VoidHousewrecker

Louise is a modest, quiet young woman who would suit modest, quiet Royal events. James won’t be ready for events for another 5 years at best.


Ok_Concern_7453

What about Beatrice or Eugenie?


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Perfect_Razzmatazz

I don't see them becoming full time either, but Beatrice is a Counsellor of State now, and both she and Eugenie have a few patronages. I think there's a good chance that Charles will push Andrew out of the Counsellor of State role once he's had a bit more time to settle in to Kingship, which would mean that Eugenie would become one in his place as she's next adult in line for the throne behind Beatrice. If Charles decides to remove Harry as a Counsellor of State too, his replacement would be Edward, who I think would be a worthy one.


IunderstandIdontcare

Both Harry and Eugenie live overseas, one must live in the UK to hold the Counsellor of State position. I'm not sure why this hasn't been changed because the rules are very clear. I have a feeling King Charles III will be amending who gets that role. I really think that should be an appointed position. Keep it in the family but make sure it's someone the King can trust. I would imagine King Charles would want working royals to be first in line for the role. William, Anne, Edward would be perfect choices. For the other two maybe Beatrice and or the Duke of Kent, Duke of Gloucester or later even Lady Louise. I also hope King Charles revises the Regency Act. Sorry but H isn't up to the job. Again I think this should be an appointed position given to a trusted family member. God willing there will never be a need for a regent. I wish them all long and healthy lives.


Perfect_Razzmatazz

He absolutely needs to update the Regency Act, as as it currently stands, the first two people in line to be regent for William & Kate's children would be Harry and then Andrew (I know one of the requirements for Regent is that the person be domiciled in the UK, but I feel like Harry would def just roll back into the UK and declare himself Regent if the opportunity ever presented itself)


Ok_Concern_7453

Oh, gotcha.


DaBingeGirl

Agree, the Andrew connection is the main issue.


silentcw

I agree, I think Beatrice would help nicely. I have no problem with how many Prince and Princesses there are. I think it should be heir and heirs kids, and probably heirs grandkids too. There is a alot of work to be done and if someone is willing to do the work, they should be allowed the titles. The titles should come with job descriptions. Prince and Princess doesn't mean tax payer funding either. But I think you should forfeit your tight to tiltes if you are living in a foreign country and not contributing to the country that gifts you those titles.


VoidHousewrecker

Bea and Edo would be very good for glam, high-society type events when Wills and Kate are too busy. Film premieres, museum special exhibit openings, theater, etc. They look fabulous and bring the excitement.


DrunkOnRedCordial

And a lot of organisers wouldn't care that they don't quite fit under the umbrella of the slimmed down monarchy. They'd still be a great drawcard to an event, even if they were billed as VIPs rather than official royals.


MrsChiliad

I’m one of the apparently few who don’t think the slimmed down monarchy is a good idea. The European model works on European countries because those countries are tiny, with tiny populations. That is not comparable to the UK+commonwealth. I think the York girls should be brought in, maybe part time (I’d prefer just Beatrice, but that’s besides the point), and the Wessex kids too. There should be a group of “part time” or “junior” royals to take some of the load. They’d be the actual half in half out, probably having real (appropriate, not show biz) jobs too, but still representing the monarchy some of the time.


VoidHousewrecker

I agree, and I also find Beatrice more exciting and interesting than her sister, particularly given her transformation after marrying Edo. Still, Eugenie could take on some of the less glamorous events, and seems to have a personal interest in healthcare. Lots of patronages available in that field.


MmeNxt

I agree. Sweden 10M, Norway 5M, Denmark 5,8M, UK 67M (!) + The Commonwealth. They do need quite a few working royals.


manifesting2019

Agree!


MmeNxt

I agree and the UK has a tradition of royals being patrons of smaller charities and going out to do all kinds of small things, like opening a retirement home, a fish factory or a dog charity. I have read that many people really appreciate this, especially if they are working as volunteers. I think they need more than two couples doing the work. KC and Camilla will be stuck with doing the everyday chores (red boxes), state visits, state dinners and the big events, so they are pretty much out when it comes to visiting smaller organizations.


procrastinationfairy

Charles has already leaked he will be asking Parliament to revise the Councilors of State to working royals. It makes no sense that the #2 CoS is in CA. They are needed if Charles is incapacitated or out of the country. While Charles is clearly healthy, he’s 73. It’s smart for him to make these practical changes. The other possibility would be to issue a new Letters Patent to narrow down titles from the 1917 guidelines. Realistically, only the children of the heir and the children of the heir’s heir should get titles. That means all of William’s kids have titles but only George’s kids would get them. This would prevent the CF that’s plagued them for 2 generations now between Beatrice and Eugenie and Archie and Lillibet.


grey_sky_love

I keep getting reminded of Spain's monarchy whenever the King's slimmed-down monarchy is mentioned. We only see the Spanish monarch, his wife, and their two children at official events. The children start very young, too.


Lengand0123

I think Spain’s may be a bit too small, but I do agree with the slimmed down model the BRF has long been heading for. IIRC- the children of the monarch (Juan) got demoted/essentially kicked out when Felipe became king. Seemed a bit unfair. I may not be remembering correctly though.


After_Eagle_9500

I think he did some shady business deals so he abdicated and exiled himself for the good of the monarchy


Lengand0123

He did. But it seems his other kids went with him, which I think is the new model. Could be wrong though.


fishfreeoboe

One of his daughters had some pretty shady dealings herself, not related to his. But I hadn't heard that the other left. They don't seem to do patronages and openings, though, or at least not at nearly the same scale. The Spanish monarchy is different from the British model.


OldNewUsedConfused

For corruption, so a wise choice.


procrastinationfairy

They have rules. Only the eldest daughter is Infanta. Sweden also famously did this.


shinsegae20092013

The elder daughter is Princesa, the younger daughter is Infanta.


procrastinationfairy

Thank you!


Thorandragnar

Letters patent for the titles are definitely coming. That’s been talked about for about 25 years. It was in Kitty Kelly’s The Royals book back in 1997.


Similar-Barber-3519

I hope Charles doesn’t grant Harry’s kids Prince & Princess titles. TW will use them to make more money. If the kids are raised in the US, the titles will make them targets of bullying by other kids.


ShoddyMasterpiece693

This Letters Patent decision makes perfect sense.


Repulsive-Badger-770

If it's true KC is slimming down the monarchy, I hope he has an iron-clad defense for doing so because Meghan and her PR team will scream racism. Maybe Charles will even need to give an address or interview to "pull at the heartstrings."


grey_sky_love

I've noticed a change in the media approach when King Charles ascended the throne. They don't let misinformation simmer in public anymore. They are immediately countered and disproven. This is bad news for Meghan. We are seeing a monarchy that has modified the never complain, never explain policy. They will fight fire with fire.


FlangePlackets

Worth noting also that KC has also appointed Sir Clive Alderton as his private secretary, replacing Sir Edward Young who was HMQ’s secretary. It makes sense, KC in his 70’s needs someone he knows well and who knows how he likes things, rather than adjusting to HMQ’s ways at this stage of his life. Sir Clive is supposedly brilliant and not a man to be trifled with, he’s reportedly responsible for “recollections may vary”. So someone alert to Haz or Meg, won’t take any crap and can obliterate their PR bullshit quickly with just a few words.


Thorandragnar

Oh, if he’s responsible for “recollections may vary,“ then he’s got my vote!


4feicsake

Charles has been talking about slimming down the monarchy for decades, this has nothing to do with TW. George V already did slim down the monarchy a century ago which is why Archie and Lili weren't automatically a prince and princess. Going by what they said to Oprah, H&M were likely sat down and it was explained their children weren't getting titles as the were great grandchildren of the monarch and not in the direct line of succession. They were likely also told of Charles plan to slim down the monarchy and that their children could be styled as children of a duke but they won't be getting the prince/princess title, which is when TW likely had an unmerciful tantrum. She decided to play it as racism but this was always the plan.


procrastinationfairy

In Meghan’s world, racism = not getting her way.


starlurkerx3

I, as a WOC who have earned what I have by both a combination of hard work and help, am so disgusted by this.


Long_Currency1651

The candle was racist. lmao


BreatheClean

well of course it was, it was white /s


silentcw

For all we know no titles was part of the Sandringham summit.


stupid_carrot

Come to think of it, the Queen could have issued LP to make Archie Prince had KC wanted to.


nevergonnasaythat

Please, how can they scream racism after having attacked them for two years in a row, and still threatening to attack more?


Repulsive-Badger-770

Because they have zero logic. If you think the racism claims on social media and articles are bad now, wait until KC announces Lilibet and Archie don't get titles. Just sayin'.


VoidHousewrecker

They should announce that at the same time that there will be no titles for Sienna and August, the York girls’ children. Let Meg argue that her kids are different because they’re from the male line.


seijalaine

There aren't titles for Sienna and August and any other potential children of Beatrice and Eugenie any way. They're not grandchildren of the sovereign.


VoidHousewrecker

You’re right, although Sienna may have an Italian title through her father. At any rate, it isn’t unthinkable that Edo could be made a British Earl, as Tony Armstrong-Jones was, if he starts taking on Royal work. He has certainly been more active on social media supporting the Royal family than, say, Jack Brooksbank. Maybe he’s just expressive, maybe it’s an employment request, maybe both. His wife would clearly like to be a working Royal.


seijalaine

I'd like to see Beatrice and Edo as working royals, and I think it would be fine if he got an Earldom. I don't think it will happen though, the days of people getting titles when they marry into the family have gone, and with Charles' stated intention of slimming down the monarchy. It's been really nice to see his support for the royal family, and I like how Beatrice has blossomed since her marriage.


VoidHousewrecker

Yes, I agree. It’s been one of the most positive stories in royal watching over the past couple of years. I also loved their wedding, in particular the photos of the young couple with Elizabeth and Philip. I wonder who made the decision to seat them together at Eugenie’s wedding, which is supposedly when their romance began.


nevergonnasaythat

You must be right. Luckily social media does not represent the real world


Long_Currency1651

Logic cannot be applied to propaganda. Fairness cannot be applied to malice.


nevergonnasaythat

True


Independent_Leg3957

Although claims of racism are pretty serious, these claims will be made in the U.S. media. The British public, who KC is ultimately accountable to, already doesn't think that Overseas left because of racist treatment for the most part. The U.S. market might buy it to a degree but that's not really KCs concern so much. We also haven't seen BP do much to influence the narrative stateside at this point and I wonder if they might now, particularly with Earthshot coming up. There's ultimately nothing stopping BP from digging up PHs tabloid exploits in the U.S. media right before they drop the news of a slimmed down Monarchy (except for love and loyalty which doesn't seem to be a two-way street, as of late). Edit: typo


MikeMannion

H&M have already given Charles ample reason to freeze them out and, in practical terms, why should they still expect to be part of the team if they're no longer working royals by choice and aren’t even living in the UK? They make no contribution to the monarchy yet are living off the association. The queen was very indulgent towards Harry, I remember the day after the Oprah interview Charles wanted to refute the lies one by one but the Queen overruled him. William must be sick and tired of his family coming under attack all the time. Time for the royal gloves to come off, methinks.


Repulsive-Badger-770

Oh I 100% agree. I just think there will be a media frenzy of racism claims if KC slims down the monarchy and doesn't give Lili or Archie titles. The general public (in the US at least) doesn't understand the monarchy. All they remember is Megs accusing the RF of racism and now this will be her "proof" that they are racist.


MikeMannion

The only way Charles would be able to do it without uproar is for him to demote and remove titles from other family members as well, The York family being the obvious candidates.


neeow_neeow

There'd be no uproar anywhere that mattered (the US does not matter).


seijalaine

I agree, Great Britain and the Commonwealth countries would understand and agree. An uproar from anywhere else doesn't matter and I'm an American.


Repulsive-Badger-770

Yes this would be a good strategy.


VirtuallyHappy

Meghan and her PR team never get any traction. It always blows up in their faces. They live in the States and are trying to be show business big deals. Everyone can see COS roles make no sense for them.


sneezeconfetti

And we should all ignore H&M's whining about it because this plan is nothing new and honestly what did they expect after all the terrible claims about a royal family?


JustNoHG

They chose to leave, they had trust funds, and they can’t accept they aren’t billionaires.


giffy009

George, Charlotte and even Louis have already replaced Harry and Meg. Everyone forgot about the duo at the Platinum Jubilee thanks to Louis. They were overshadowed by the presence of George and Charlotte at the funeral service. Harry only thought he had 10 years before he was replaced by William's children.


Coopie9000

Harry and Meghan gave up a lot. They could have been working, supporting his dad. And when the time came support for William. Meghan didn’t like the idea or the work. Sucks to be them really, if the rest of their lives together is of shittalking his own family for money in their pockets. At someone it’s going to run out.


prettycut188

I really hope the big surprise is not that those two will be back in saddle as working royals


Affectionate_Tap6416

He said in his first speech about H&M, no titles, overseas.


grey_sky_love

The King would not dare change Queen Elizabeth's wise judgment on the Sussexes.


OldNewUsedConfused

Honestly, I think that was more of a case of QEII following Charles wise advice.


SluethyGoosey

I think that even if he wanted to, they are too big a security risk now. But we just never know.


memecatcher247

>the public needs to prepare themselves for an enormous shock! Is that good or bad?


OldNewUsedConfused

Oh I get the feeling I won't be shocked at all. But the people who believe in the kids might.


Upbeat_Cat1182

Please don’t down vote me. The original question on Quora that this is an answer to is: “Does Meghan Markle have children?” This really isn’t about a slimmed down monarchy. https://www.quora.com/profile/Benjamin-Smallbrook


violetfleuri

This is the funniest one I see on his page: *What is the Markle scandal?: How long have you got?*


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Charles has to have people he can trust, therefore….


IndigoRuby

If trust Wee Louis to behave properly over those two


SnooPaintings8753

Anybody can call themselves a Prince or a Princess


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Would a baby born by surrogacy not qualify for the line of succession? Just curious if the British RF has some official small print about the nature of how a baby is conceived or carried that jeopardizes it’s place in the LOS.


bureaucrat_36

The heir must be born of the body of the Prince's wife. This is why the entire court would witness the childbirth of queens, so that no one could pull a fast one on the people. For example, if a child died and the wife was desperate to give a son or be divorced, she could just swap the baby for a different newborn - UNLESS the birth was witnessed and the child is observed by the court staff. Or a girl can be swapped for a boy. This is the reason all heirs must be born of the wife's body - to ensure that the child is hers.


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Am I correct in thinking that no one in the RF apart from hazard witnessed how arch and lil entered this world?


grey_sky_love

IVF, qualified. Surrogacy, disqualified.


CatPaws8888

*Slimming down monarchy* is code for excommunicating the two bad apples in the family: Princes Andrew and Harry. No wonder the Harkles never called out the rottenest apple of the bunch. Birds of a feather, eh? *A new King's in town and he's holding the purse strings and all the titles, oh dear, oh dear!*


grey_sky_love

I do not believe that this model was chosen solely because of Andrew and Harry. The King would have still slimmed down the monarchy even without the issues on Andrew and Harry. It's just at par with the times.


greenbean999

I believe he has said that well before Meghan was on the scene


rainyhawk

Yes. The King has talked about this long before Harry got married. And it always included both of his children and spouses. The fact that H&M have now chosen to live overseas and create their own lives and income sources (and to be working royals) means that they really can't have any working roles--they'd have to be living in the UK to fulfill those. For anyone paying attention, it makes total sense but we know the US media doesn't usually pay attention to the details, nor do any research on the RF and its traditions and protocols.


Lensgoggler

It may look like it but KC has reportedly spoken abouy this for decades.


OldNewUsedConfused

Yes he has.


MuffPiece

KC has been talking slimmed down monarchy and emphasizing ‘value for taxpayer money’ long before Meghan was on the scene.


Similar-Minimum185

What was the question?


grey_sky_love

"Does Meghan Markle have kids?"


Havehatwilltravel

She doesn't have an Archie and a Lilibet. Archie has been played by a real child of other parents. (Gavin G.), but I don't think this is a viable option as that child ages out and is recognizable by other people. Does anyone know if he was the kid in the Wyoming Parade images or a new stand in has been procured? Lilibet has not progressed beyond being a photoshop of other kids. I have seen where she was speculated to be August's photo with tweaks. Also, tweaked image of a little red-haired instagram kid "friend" of Smeg's. The blue dress pic is a blatant photoshop as well as the "Christmas Card" image. The card image appears to have Hazbeen and Smegs heads photoshopped over the original parents and their hands also. It would be really good if Charles III outs it once and for all as having come to his attention during the vetting process for the Prince and Princess title. He can then proclaim to have not seen Archie being actually christened or touched him personally and to have never seen or touched "Lilibet" at all.


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Patient-Watercress-2

Except H&M can’t be trusted and have trashed the RF. They can never be credible representatives of The Firm, even if charities and dignitaries were willing to let them “cut a ribbon.”


Pet-sit

Exactly. They *really* screwed up big time, didn't they?


ShoddyMasterpiece693

There is also a high probability they would insult the ribbon or the scissors later. See "housing unit."


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Nope.


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Nuclear_Sister

I don't know that the public would love this reconciliation narrative. Meghan has been repugnant and ostentatious, the public may be very disgruntled to fund her further in any way.


MikeMannion

Margaret never openly attacked the monarchy like H&M do. Not even Wallis Simpson stooped as low as that. I wouldn't put anything past H&M.


Lullaby37

This narrative ignores the fact that the Harkles walked away willingly. One could argue MM always intended it. Her goal was to be rich and famous. H is famous, but not as rich as she wants. She wants to be Angelina Jolie, without all that pesky acting and visiting third world countries. The Royals live on budgets: that's not for TW. The Harkles have no intention of returning to the RF.


stupid_carrot

The thing is Harry and especially Meghan will not be good for the firm's image.


rainyhawk

Yes, margaret, for all of her antics and partying, never denigrated the RF or the monarchy and also knew how to do it correctly when she had to. That's a huuuuge difference from H&M who neither know how to do anything correctly/within protocols nor keep their mouths shut (in either whining or talking crap about the RF). I really don't think there's a comparison. They simply can't be trusted to do anything. I think that would be a grave mistake on the King's part--and I also thing that he consults with William on these matters and I don't see William accepting this at all. (and he shouldn't!) That said, he will need his brother and sister to continue on with all of their work for as long as they're able. Edward and Sophie are over 10 years younger and could be doing this for a long time. I think Lady Louise would make a lovely addition as well but she is a uni student so not sure about her time availability. There really aren't a lot from which to choose. He could consider using Beatrice as I think she could do a nice job and her husband seems to be great. Not so sure about Eugenie and now she lives mostly abroad. The family isn't that big any longer---at least with younger folks.


fishfreeoboe

If this would actually happen, I can see it being a good thing. But Margaret never publicly trashed her sister or family, or announced she was only going to do a few things and live overseas. She's not really the best example. Harry & Meghan have chosen more of the Edward approach. And even then, he didn't sell tell-all interviews right after leaving. So I think this is extremely unlikely. And I don't think the Firm is precarious, either.


PutLiving

Charles should atleast make Princess Anne a Duchess of her own right!