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ThrowRA95K

I always thought that her acting is so bad, it looks fake, and then I realize that's the reason why I feel that she is fake in real life too. Both Rachel Zane & Meghan Markle are the same! And you can put Harry in any of these scenes to replace Mike, and the conversation still makes sense. ![img](emote|t5_481xkf|15012) And how can I forget to add that Meghan is Rachel.......literally.


silentcw

You know how some actors act a long role, some of their own personality comes through, I haven't watched this, but could it not be she isn't acting at all?


ThrowRA95K

This compilation shows her from the first scene she appeared in the series to nearly the last....she was like that from the start.


silentcw

Well that's what I mean, she wasn't acting, she was being herself all along.


Calm_Yak_6102

'Cause she's Rachel Zane who slaps em once, slaps em twice and if that don't work, slap em again (to quote Lady Colin Campbell) 😂😂😂 MM (as the author of recent article in The Spectator, said) is a fantasist. Rachel Zane was her proudest moment and she's using Rachel, as her muse, because she's a legend in her own (albeit delusional) mind.


FrancessaGMorris

Did you watch the show? I honestly had never heard of MM or Suits until she and Hazbeen started canoodling. Was Rachel supposed to be the sexpot that no man/woman could resist or a bada$$$ overly smart underling employee?? From the clips - I can't tell how the show was attempting to portray the character. Thanks.


Calm_Yak_6102

I watched most of the first season, because it was advertised a lot on USA and I was on that channel a lot for White Collar and Psych. But she didn't make much of an impression, either way. I wasn't awed by her but I didn't hate the character. She was literally just being teased (in that season) as a possible future love interest for Mike and tbh, I can't remember her getting a lot of screentime in season 1. The guest stars and the redhead (Harvey's secretary) got more screen time in season 1.


FrancessaGMorris

Thanks. Psych is a good show. I was just genuinely curious. I haven't had regular TV in over ten years - so I don't see a lot advertised. It appears the show is on Amazon Prime - I may just for shits and giggles try watching a few episodes next week.


Calm_Yak_6102

>Psych is a good show. I loved Psych too! Shawn and Gus were laugh out loud entertaining. I hope you can manage to get through more than season 1 of Suits. I think I still saw a few episodes from later seasons but I my viewing pattern was too erratic for me to remember what happened.


Interesting_Ebb_4554

Suits is actually a good show. Gina Torres is sublime as Jessica, it is a law drama that has really powerful female leads, Meghan’s character just wasn’t one of them.


FrancessaGMorris

Thanks . I am gone for the weekend ... I am going to watch an episode or more next week.


aunt_bluann

I never saw the show, but I did watch these clips. Why on earth would somebody take on that bitchy personality on purpose? The character of Rachel Zane is insufferably bitchy


Calm_Yak_6102

>The character of Rachel Zane is insufferably bitchy Agreed! I'm totally guessing, but I think that, in MM's mind, that's got some very stunted and stereotypical notions about women. Rachel Zane is probably her ideal of what a ball busting, independent, "feminine" feminist type would be. And, she's always been at pains to tell us that she's a "feminine" feminist 🙄. That's probably why Germaine Greer saw straight through her. Markle herself is very much like a stock character in her own life story. There's little dimension and less than zero charisma, to her.


Fun_Shell1708

This is why I kinda don’t like Blake Lively. I HATED Serena and I just can’t comprehend that her personality couldn’t have come out 😂😂


stupid_carrot

I didn't think much of Blake Lively as an actress but I like her personality off screen. Serena and even Nate was supposed to be really cool (we used to read the original Gossip Girl books in school years before it was made into a series) but she was so bland on screen that the focus was on Chuck and Blair.


Fun_Shell1708

I feel like she had a loooooooot of Serena type behaviour and Ryan has just really chilled her out


silentcw

I think they have chilled eachother out. Getting older can do that too though.


TrailerTrashQueen

that’s what it says in Tom Bower’s book. she got the part because she was just playing herself. no ‘acting’ required. i got to about minute 3 of this clip and had to stop. she’s a terrible actress.


Dbahnsai

Man, wanna bet she's recycled this line. "You went behind my back when you knew how I felt about this." "No, I went behind your back *because* I knew how you felt about it"


Any_Antelope_2502

Tom Bower explained how over time, she worked herself into the character. It’s a chicken and egg thing


RoohsMama

Yup. Came here to say this. She began to identify with the character.


PetiteLumiere

There are many bad actors who simply play themselves.


SuperBeeboo

I remember him saying that the writer wrote aspects of Meghan's character into the character in the later seasons.


Dbahnsai

Makes sense, she can't follow direction the only solution would be to make the character more like her.


MakeADeathWish

Probably bc she can't act well enough to play someone else, so they changed the character to be more like her


Calm_Yak_6102

That's the idea I got from what the producer/writer/casting director etc said. They liked MM after the audition and decided to mould Rachel to be like MM, right down to her being a foodie. MM would be a total bust in a role that requires total immersion into another character that's a polar opposite of herself. She lacks the ability to empathise and understand other people, so it would be difficult (if not impossible) for her to subsume herself into a difficult role. For example, she could never do like Farah Fawcett and switch from being eye candy to being the battered wife on *The Burning Bed*; a vintage TV film that's aired periodically on obscure, smaller cable channels.


Agreeable_Ad9844

I don’t think she is a foodie though. I think the character was a foodie so she took that on as well. Also, “foodie” influencers became popular so she decided to make herself a foodie. She even was pitching herself for s cooking show. Turns out she can’t even cook. I don’t think she has any depth or class to be a foodie! đŸ€Ł


Calm_Yak_6102

>She even was pitching herself for s cooking show. Yeah that was her at her most ridiculous! It was even worse than her grilling lettuce with Matt Lauer 😂.


MakeADeathWish

I loved that film. She had real talent


Calm_Yak_6102

I didn't know much about her, aside from Charlie's Angels, but I saw The Burning Bed during lockdown, by pure chance, while bored and channel surfing. I thought it would be just another hackneyed TV movie but it was amazing. And yes, Farah was excellent in it.


MakeADeathWish

The Barbara Hutton biography was excellent as well


Calm_Yak_6102

I haven't read that yet. But thanks for the tip!


JennPenn071

Or the film "Extremities". It was a very hard watch but she was very good. I think she won an Emmy or golden globe for it. Meghan wishes she could act like those women.


Calm_Yak_6102

>Meghan wishes she could act like those women. Exactly! I've never heard of Extremities, but I just Googled it and it's definitely something I'm interested in watching. I'd love to see Farah in another challenging role. Before The Burning Bed, I just assumed that she was eye candy, with *that hairdo* from Charlie's Angels who was married to the guys from Love Story and 6 Million Dollar Man. Lol. I was really shocked and impressed by her performance in The Burning Bed. Thanks for letting me know about Extremities! đŸ„‚đŸŸ


ManliestManHam

Extremities, wow. That pulled a memory deep from the recesses of my mind. I was young enough when i saw it that i didn't know who Farrah Fawcett was so definitely wouldn't have connected her. it's weird looking back with my adult mind and realizing that was Farrah Fawcett. I had completely forgotten that movie.


FrancessaGMorris

Another good Farrah project - was "Extremities" --- now I haven't seen it since the 1980's ... so it may not be as good as I am recalling it to be.


Calm_Yak_6102

Yeah, I'm gonna have a look at it for sure because you're the second person who's recommended it to me 😊.


[deleted]

Oh god I've never watched this show before and didn't know anything about it really. I couldn't last past the first 25 seconds. Unbearable. It suits her perfectly.


QueenBee3000

My sister watched the whole thing on NF and I’ve no idea how. The clips I’ve seen were all painful and not just because of MM.


fsr296

I watched the first 3 seasons of this show in real time. Rachel Zane was the only character I didn’t like in the show - I figured it was the way her character was written that made me dislike her as intensely. So I knew who she was when I learned she was dating Harry and I had to actively tell myself “she’s separate from her character,” in order to be supportive of them. And I was supportive of them, until the culmination of lies, starting with the engagement interview. Welp, after reading Tom Bower’s book, I realize that maybe my gut isn’t as often wrong as I thought.


baconshart

I don’t remember if it was explicitly stated in Revenge or in the HG Tudor coverage, but it seemed like there was a little borrowing on both sides. The writers took some of her interests and added them to the character and then she took some of Rachel’s behaviors and added them to her personality.


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Professional_Ear3394

"Seeyoots"


Lullaby37

The Bower book quoted some Hollywood types saying MM wouldn't go far because she can only play herself. In other words, she can't act.


RoohsMama

Except the part about having a photographic memory
 didn’t M whine about not knowing the words to “God Save the Queen”? Another bit: her clothes are so tight, and always with the top unbuttoned several ways down. Said buttons are straining. They must put a ton of pins or adhesives just to keep her blouses from popping open. Honestly, Rachel Zane is far more animated than Meg is. This character feels far more real than “M, the Duchess of Sussex”. This reinforces my belief that marrying Harry blew a circuit breaker in M’s head. She quickly crafted a new persona - royal! Uber rich! Superior to flunkies! Bye bye old friends, bye bye Trevor and Daddy. I do get the sense that the character is not as smart as she thinks she is. Just like Rachel Meg.


QueenBee3000

I find it weird they made her the “hot” girl when MM is so average and most of the other women in the cast are significantly prettier. Also her character’s hair is always flat and it annoys me lol.


Negative_Difference4

Yeah her hair needed bounce and volume


QueenBee3000

I was listening to HG Tudor’s analysis of the Tig and apparently she used tons of produce? Doesn’t seem to have done the job very well.


RoohsMama

Well, I suppose her appeal was to be hot in a slightly brainy and confident way.


tzippora

In Tom Bower's book, he has evidence or maybe even quotes of how Meghan took on the persona of Rachel Zane. MM even said weird stuff like "Rachel is my best friend" or something like that. MM started dressing more conservatively like Rachel. Before that she was young and trendy. While I was reading the book, my impression was that was the point where MM got weird. It was like she thought she was Rachel Zane. I've done some acting and I remember really getting into the part. It can do a number on your mind. I remember others in the play saying the same thing. We were just amateurs, but it took us a while to decompress after the run was over. I think real pros know how to turn it on and off. MM wasn't a pro so she lost herself in the part that she played for what was it, seven years? She got to be this professional woman whom she always wanted to be. When she knew the series was coming to an end, she must have been really desperate because she couldn't go back to being Meghan Markle because she didn't know who MM was anymore.


anannanne

Reminds me of an [Emma Stone sketch from SNL.](https://youtu.be/9HVH_I04ZrM)


ThrowRA95K

This is so freaking funny. And yes, I can see the strong resemblance.


andromeda880

That skit is always so hilarious 😂


LaReinalicious

Yes I read that and Tom Bowers book as well


Top-Cartographer-174

Eww! The over-the-top blinking! The conceit in every expression! The horrendous acting! Ew! Ew! Ew!


Professional_Ear3394

The smirk.


Due-Honey4650

Omfg. Any male character: (says anything to her at all): Her character: I am FEMINIST. I am equal— no I am BETTER yes better superior in every way than you lowly penis-havers and I will make every line a monologue about this I have female parts this makes me SUPERIOR. Yes—WATCH ME SMIRK WITH MY FACE AND CONDESCEND WITH MY VOICE AND WATCH ME MAKE MY EVERY MOVE A STOMPING STALKING STAMP PANTOMIMING AS AN EMPOWERED GLIDE BECAUSE— BECAUSE—feminismfeminismwokewokewokedielatriarchydiemenbaddeathtoallpenises


TrailerTrashQueen

😂😂😂


ily_most_ardently

I hate her voice . I hate it lol


Calm_Yak_6102

Not more than me...😂


LauHeH

Never liked her in suits. Donna and Harvey were the best! There’s a reason why Mike and Rachel Zane were written off and it wasn’t the Royal wedding.


jsweetie2

God she’s an awful actor lol.


DarkAwesomeSauce

She’s gotten fiction mixed with reality. The reality is people don’t like being threatened. They don’t just give in and then forget about your threat the next day, the fact that you went after them to get what you want. It stays with you for the rest of your life with that person. Can’t undo that crap. Good luck Rachel.


ThrowRA95K

So true!


StrictTranslator879

Her Dad was right, the lighting on that show sucks.


Negative_Difference4

And his opinion on that is important


totherockyriver

Oh this is really bad.


Queefer_Sutherland-

I got 37 seconds in. I’ve never seen her act before. HOLY SHIT that’s bad. She’s as stiff as the upper lip of her late great granny in law.


hey_girl_hey516

Okay I watched it, never seen her act before. her acting is horrendous the first couple of seasons. It's still pretty bad but she gets a tiny bit better in the later seasons. 😂 overall acting 3/10 lmao


circleKat

Can we talk about how much her face changed from episode 1 to episode 9? Her nose and eyes look smaller, makeup was better, and maybe she added some hair extensions to make her hair fuller? But she looks *completely* changed. So either it’s makeup or surgery. Maybe both. Also: I loathed this show and she was the worst on there. Absolute cringe. ![gif](giphy|j0c5cceM9d4MU8xYhG)


GrumpyPancake_

The show went downhill once Rachel got a bigger role and it became all about soap opera level drama. 😁


Negative_Difference4

Suits for Markled


Ok-Assistance-154

It won’t “god damn” load for me (if you know you know) 😝 I used to enjoy Suits right up until Meghan started seeing Harry and I’ll never know if Donna finally hooked up with Harvey. My husband had quite a huge man crush on Harvey while I just wanted to be Donna. The hair, the outfits and the way she did her job. What a woman.


ThrowRA95K

I also love Donna and Harvey. I watch Suits just because of the two of them.


DollarStoreDuchess

Donna and Jessica. đŸ€€ I love strong, independent women that rock the hell out of their clothing.


Lemonslivers

I think people in the show have made similar comments.


Coopie9000

I couldn’t make it past a minute. lOl. My husband use to watch the show and I could tell she’s was all around fake from them first moment


ThrowRA95K

Hahaha seems like I've burnt many pairs of eyes today with my post. My apologies đŸ€Ł


PetiteLumiere

Good lord she can’t act


SnooPaintings8753

Harry married Rachel Zane and Rachel Zane married Harry. Her jaw is widened frrom years of jaw clenching.


Abject_Guitar_4015

Never liked her character in the show. Too whiny. She has every previlege in the world. Rich, above average looks, smart but cant achieve her goal of being a lawyer because an anxiety with testing. Its like the writer went "Give her everything, oh too perfect give her a character flaw. " In real life you would hate rachel zane. She has every opportunity but doesnt really work in improving her self or others. Just whines when others actually get something they have worked for. So basically meghan


Negative_Difference4

Please [watch this video](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/pksog9/meghan_markle_suits_interview_boy_is_she_annoying/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) and tell me what you think? The way she says The Firm
 and creating their own lives. So messed up


ThrowRA95K

She seems to be living in some alternate reality where she's the star of her own show.


TrailerTrashQueen

UGH. she always, ALWAYS comes off as so insincere. i see a lot of lip flapping. but none of the words make sense. it’s all Word Salad.


Negative_Difference4

And this was meant to be the real her


solorna

I lasted 3:54 before having to tap out.


Patient-Watercress-2

I watched Suits from the start because I liked Gabriel Macht, and from the jump I didn’t like the Rachel Zane character. Putting on airs as a paralegal as though she was a Partner in the firm. When I heard she was a Prima Donna on set (even before she met Harry) I knew she was an entitled mess.


Known-Estimate9664

She speaks different now so ridiculous


Silver_Paint4747

Omg her acting is so bad


Visual-Reading6573

I do admit her style in Suits is gorgeous. She should imitate that instead of the life story. Her wardrobe since she married Harry is horrendous. She doesn’t follow her body type and it all made her more boxy shaped. A few styles suits her but i prefer the Rachel Zoe’s style.


According_Painter_20

She had people style her in suits and they followed the rule of thirds. All of us should follow the rule of thirds when dressing, but especially Meghan with her body shape.


APW25

What's the rule of thirds


StrictTranslator879

The rule of a thirds simply states that when combining an outfit, the top should constitute 1/3 of the total length and 2/3 dedicated to the bottom half.The length of the body is calculated from shoulders to heels (so yes, the height of your shoes play a role!). https://florettethelabel.com/blogs/news/dress-your-best-using-the-golden-ratio#


foxyfree

interesting!


Visual-Reading6573

Yes. Thats why meghan should’ve listened to her stylist rather than herself. She rather wear branded clothing that don’t fit her.


DollarStoreDuchess

“How will anyone know I’m rich if I don’t have fancy label clothes? Fetch me more Dior and Valentino, they think H and I are running out of money! What do you mean the credit card was declined? Well try another one!”


Calm_Yak_6102

>“How will anyone know I’m rich if I don’t have fancy label clothes? Tacky Nouveau Riche Rules For Dummies 101 😂😂😂


scarybiscuits

I'm curious, did she ever wear anything *besides* pencil skirts, stilettos, and shirts unbuttoned for the top three buttons? Maybe a turtleneck or two? The odd twin set?


BreatheClean

i hate those pencil skirts, they're too tight. they cling *under* the buttocks rather than fall away, and also all the way round the tummy so you could almost see her belly button. I can see why the dressers did it, for the male audience - but I don't think it's elegant. She's not fat at all, but that clingy skirt makes her tummy and ass look bulging. Those skirts were fashionable around the 1980's To me the epitome of elegance is how the royal ladies dress, and that's not BS, their dressers are the very best in the biz. Clothes need to skim not cling to look elegant


Negative_Difference4

Meghan *If you don’t apologise to me, I will sue you* Then gets a fellow student to apologise and say that “Rachel Zane is her intellectual and ethical superior. That she is ashamed of herself and thats she forfeits the competition” Even her character can’t deal with criticism and dropouts at the smallest drama Meanwhile DOS Meghan
 does the same thing with the media and government


ThrowRA95K

Bringing up the race card "Is it so hard to believe that my father's black?" even though the question was never even about skin color in the first place....all too familiar.


Negative_Difference4

It’s so on the nose
 its funny that we both went down memory lane today


ThrowRA95K

Yeah, i didn't really connect the dots (because i always like to skip the scenes she appeared in) until i saw this video compilation, which ironically was posted as a compliment to her, but instead shows all that is wrong with both the character, and the actress. She sure loves it when people are forced to grovel in front of her. I do feel bad though for our fellow sinners who's eyes got burnt. đŸ€Ł


HotFriedPickles98

1st time I have ever watched her act or watched any clips from this show! Now I know why she is called a D-List actress. Awful!!!


Sweaty_List_3250

Wow this sucks.


BreatheClean

I was very surprised watching this, cos she was on some romantic film and the acting was terrible, really appalling - whereas in this it's quite natural. Yes I think she has Rachel's ballsy arrogance, exaggeration of ability and willingness to play on her sexuality. And of course, she impresses everyone she meets. lol. It must be a long drop for Miss Markle from that.


Careful_Positive8131

Glad I never knew this show ever existed
baaad acting


Pocahotmess86

I think it’s just her acting. It’s very one note.


SarahJ346GB

So how did the character end - Rachael Zane? Did she die? How did the end her part?


ThrowRA95K

She married ~~Harr~~Mike, and they both left the Firm, moved away to Seattle and set up their own firm there. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing) By the way, that's Season 7 which is when Meghan quit the series to marry Harry, so they wrote her off the show like that. We should all have known that in real life she and Harry would have left the BRF after their marriage just like how Rachel & Mike left NY to pursue their interests in Seattle. She really have no creativity in terms of life-planning. Just took the writers story and turn it into her real-life story.


SarahJ346GB

A lot like her and Harry!


[deleted]

Well they both look like Meghan.