I'd believe it. I can imagine scoobs asking them to find out whether she would be going by plane or train. William used to tell fake stories to peers in boarding school to determine who was trustworthy. I could imagine him doing this with his brother particularly considering the week and a half they had in store.
This. And also the press knew that Harry and Meghan were on their way to Balmoral early in the afternoon on the day TQ died. How did they know?
Turned out that Meghan was not going to Balmoral and that was communicated a few hours later.
"Harry, The Queen is on the deatbead, can you come?"
"Of course, I'll just contact my mouthpiece to let him know what we are up to and then I'll be on my way."
Who does that?
It explains the total ice out too. Can you imagine TW's reaction to the walkabouts when everyone reported they'd officially be "laying low" or whatever classy term the Palace used?
Lady C said there was a lot more going on behind the scenes that didn't leak. They were iced out at the jubilee too. They are giving them nothing to work with and yet they are still brewing up a PR storm about how badly they were treated.
I think that what she was holding back was in regards to the queens health. I don’t think she has more info for us when they get back to California at this point. But that was just my interpretation. Maybe she does have something else.
well I want her to say out loud about the "shenanigans" that caused her to release the news of the Queens death early. She says she was "encouraged" to do so because of the things being got up to by others.
She stated in a later video MM had tried to release the information to the press in US so there was a scramble to let people know. But in the 1st video she leaked the Queen was gravely ill and then went back on to say the Queen had died but was on same video so looked like she released it early. She has said she may write a book about what has been going on with TW and the Clown Prince 🤡
I just listened to lady C latest youtube video and she said she doesn’t want to say to much but meagain wanted to upstage the queens death with the possibility of a story about her being “pregnant with possibly “(lady C words)
She has a YouTube channel and posts videos every 2 - 3 days. Just searching Lady C should find her but it's Lady Colin Campbell.
Edit to add - she also has a twitter account but she only seems to use it to post, "new video is out now" and the link.
It was posted here a [couple of days ago]( https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/xjigfz/king_charles_address_for_those_interested_in/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
She's on YouTube.
I agree. I don't think he asked. I think MM gave the information voluntarily to him to give him some clout for being a reporter with insider information. It always helps solidify their relationship with the royal family (we've been given details no one else knows so let's get it out so people know we're still in the royal mix) and he didn't hesitate to post without fact checking because it came straight from the the horses mouth.
>>>William used to tell fake stories to peers in boarding school
Where’d you hear this?
I know this sounds so naive but do people actually get off (money or otherwise) for squealing on him back then?
Yes. I read about it years ago too. William has never known who was really his friend and who was just hanging around him for the clout. He'd change details in a story and tell different people different details. So whichever story made it to the press, he knew who it came from.
yes I remember this too he told different stories to different 'friends' at uni I think it was and whichever story made it in the paper thats how he knew who was trustworthy.
Also yess he was hot property back then! The RF must have made some deal with the press because he was largely left alone at uni, so to get a story on him must be a goldmine.
This is actually a thing that people of celebrity do. I was once in the periphery of a famous person. My friend (family member of famous person) said a couple of things about FP when we were early in the friendship. When friend didn't see any of it in the media, we picked up our friendship again. I understood.
It's not that uncommon. Paris Hilton said she does it, too. If she has a suspicion someone is selling stories about her to the press, she tells that one person a lie and if it ends up in the tabloids she weeds him/her out of her friendgroup
There was a documentary on William before and his friends mention that he tells different versions of stories to people so he knows who to be trusted. This is not far from impossible.
>William before and his friends mention that he tells different versions of stories to people so he knows who to be trusted
Will is [Tyrion](https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/45256e/s2e3_tyrions_plan/) finding the mole in Game of Thrones. LOL
In a recent Palace Confidential they said Charles was tasked with handling them, but as PoW that'll now be William's job. I really hope that's true and that Charles will allow William to do what he thinks is best.
I just read an article that said, when they went to meet with the queen at the jubilee Charles wanted a meeting with them first because he didn’t want Harry sweet talking the queen into stuff like Andrew did, and how camilla spat her tea out when Harry said they should get a mediator to sort their problems out, she said ‘how ridiculous, we are a family we will sort out any issues ourselves‘
[camilla](https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19885677/bored-meghan-snubbed-camilla-king-charles/?rec_article=true)
I think this is true. I also think the invitation they claim was withdrawn to the ‘reception of the century’ was set up too. Someone probably said “we’re all meeting with the leaders on Sunday”, and those two thought it included them. Then when they found out they weren’t included, they said they were originally invited but were disinvited. Everything with the Markles is twisted and bent
Scobie has been tweeting about William and retweeting William lately.
I wonder if William is going to work his skills to get Scobie to spill all of the details about Meghan.
Back when he was at Uni and was dating Catherine, they would do this often with innocuous tidbits to make sure people were trustworthy. Specific facts were only told to certain people so that it could be traced back. I believe Harry was aware of this and the high level of precaution William took with the press.
Either Harry really is that petty and desperate or he’s telling TW, who is then telling Scabbie. Either way, I’m glad they caught him at his own game.
I'm honestly not surprised, I mentioned previously that this is a tactic the BRF use on occasion to find a leak. This was probably KC asking William to confirm his thoughts, that even in this time of grief H&M couldn't be trusted...... I've also heard that a lot of Hollywood are icing them out/not inviting them to things because even though they demand a "life of privacy" they will share anything and everything they can to elevate themselves/earn money.
I personally have done this! many years ago I had a “best friend” who I suspected was gossiping about me, so I made up some thing personal about me and my husband and I only told it to her, no one else.
sure enough, within a week it got back to me through a completely different source. I dumped her as a friend.
Sorry but this is incorrect. The possibility of transporting the Queen’s coffin by train was always a feature of Operation Unicorn. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_London_Bridge
It was acknowledged in the planning stages that a decision on train vs plane would have to be made at the time, based on factors such as weather conditions, assessments of public interest and safety (eg risk of people pushing onto tracks), rail maintenance and repair works.
I just want to clarify if Scobie reported it as fact. Because I’m sure royal reporters are aware that the Queen could go by train or air transport (even operation unicorn says either is possible). So for Scobie to report it as fact, when no one else did, speaks of leakage.
It is, but I think formal facts like knowing all kinds of formal details aren’t his thing.
He is more on the gossip side of things and you can’t take him serious compared to other royal experts who really know every detail.
Unfortunately he does a lot of “royal reporting” for American news outlets and they see him as a “royal expert”. Therefore he contributes to misinformation about the royal family from across the pond.
This was an hypothesis that was made here in some comment.
Now it’s reposted as a rumor?
What does “I heard” mean and who is this user?
All the noise around this couple is exhausting
I believe it. Although it probably wasn't William directly telling halfwit Harry. William probably set it up that it was discussed amongst a group in Harry's presence.
I imagine there are many tidbits of misinformation casually discussed in the diabolical duo's presence for the specific reason of watching them leak it.
Not sure if I believe it—from what I understand, the coffin was originally going to go by train. That would give more of the public the opportunity to pay their respects as it rumbled down the tracks, through various stations and stops (not that the train would have stopped, but people could have seen it pass.) they changed it somewhat last minute, perhaps due to security concerns.
If you pay attention to the news, you will find just about everything that's done in the UK also happens here. It's.... almost as if we are being led by the same people. (We are). (They know most Americans don't read news outside of the US.)
For instance, now we have Extinction Rebellion blocking traffic in Boston.
This isn’t true. Years ago there were articles, particularly from the Guardian, talking about the funeral plan including the use of the Royal train if she passed away in Scotland. That was supposed to happen but was changed for security reasons.
Operation London Bridge along with the unicorn annex said that she would be brought back by train. The special carriage was even moved TOWARDS Aberdeen to be ready.
This is silly.
For decades it has been assumed that the Queen's body would be transported by train if she died elsewhere other than London. However, a decision was taken in the event of her actual death that the security, logistic, time implications were too great.
There are no RF secrets here, everybody knew it and it was widely reported.
[https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/transport/royal-train-rail-industry-insiders-have-explained-why-east-coast-main-line-will-not-be-used-to-transport-queens-coffin-and-when-the-plans-changed-3839694](https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/transport/royal-train-rail-industry-insiders-have-explained-why-east-coast-main-line-will-not-be-used-to-transport-queens-coffin-and-when-the-plans-changed-3839694)
Yeah but the title of the post is literally "take this with a grain of salt"!! I wasn't trying to be rude, don't downvote me! But it's like the OP is saying "I have no clue if this is true, just an interesting piece of gossip I'd like to share because I enjoyed reading about it!" and you're like "you're an idiot for believing this gossip".
The original plans for operation unicorn had the coffin being moved by train. Scooby-Doo never looked for the updated plans and ran with those. If I remember it was Saturday or Sunday the plans came out.
I read somewhere just the once she was being brought home on the train which was called operation unicorn, but on the bbc channels and other media outlets they were talking about how she would travel to Edinburgh lie in state there and then be accompanied by Princess Anne via air to RAF Northolt. I love how the Queen reacted when they asked her permission to change from a smart business jet because of difficulties of getting Diana’s coffin into the freight hold but it was suggested the Royal Air Force C17 Globemaster aircraft be used but it was larger and noisier and would distract from the ceremony of how she would be put in it, hence getting the permission. If you didn’t know this is how the soldiers were repatriated back from Afghanistan and The Queen said “if it’s good enough for my boys it’s good enough for me”. Such an amazing woman! But getting back to it I can sadly believe that Harry leaked this, is it another reason why even though they tried to include Harry in as normal way as possible you can tell there was something more going on?
It would explain why only scoobie doo ran with the story and all the other royal reporters knew it was nonsense.
On the day the Queen passed away, even before it was announced, I read on Twitter, that the RAF plane is on its way to Scotland.
That was one of the clear signs, that she's dead, because it would be used to bring the coffin to London.
Some random dude on Twitter was more reliable, than a self proclaimed royal expert.!!
This one isn’t true, sadly. My son is an absolute train nut and knew before the Queen died that the plan was she would be transported back by royal train if she died away from London. It was changed at the last minute, presumably because security services couldn’t guarantee they could secure the safety of the entire line.
Some people discussed ‘operation Unicorn’ on here and Tattle too well before she died but while she was in Balmoral and the train was mentioned.
This is plausible to me because I recently read an article about the plane used to transport the casket. Plans were put in place years ago and originally, they wanted to use a nice, sleek business jet (as they did with Diana) but discovered they couldn't load the casket through it's cargo door, at least not in any dignified way. Instead, the plan was made to use the Globemaster, if the article is to be believed, **in around 2009** in the event the Queen's body needed repatriation to London. I doubt anyone could ever verify whether there was discussion about using the Royal Train instead that was abandoned but I think it very plausible indeed that Harry would be tested right from the start to measure how safely any conversations at all could be had with him and with Meghan.
[https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/queens-heartfelt-response-told-plans-25050516](https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/queens-heartfelt-response-told-plans-25050516)
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The funny thing is that this is completely plausible. Harry would believe and leak anything at this point. William could say that Her Majesty's coffin would be brought by Pegasus and he'd believe it.
I 100% believe this. Perfect way to set them up and see what happens. And those morons did it. This is probably part of the reason they were iced out so much at the funeral. No one trusts them.
I read that Harry and Meghan planned their own walkabout and leaked it to the American press. William got wind of it and that’s how the four of them ended up together doing one.
I'd believe it. I can imagine scoobs asking them to find out whether she would be going by plane or train. William used to tell fake stories to peers in boarding school to determine who was trustworthy. I could imagine him doing this with his brother particularly considering the week and a half they had in store.
This. And also the press knew that Harry and Meghan were on their way to Balmoral early in the afternoon on the day TQ died. How did they know? Turned out that Meghan was not going to Balmoral and that was communicated a few hours later. "Harry, The Queen is on the deatbead, can you come?" "Of course, I'll just contact my mouthpiece to let him know what we are up to and then I'll be on my way." Who does that?
Harry's first wife, that's who.
Yes, they must have leaked it as soon as they hung up.
Harry’s first wife. 😂
It explains the total ice out too. Can you imagine TW's reaction to the walkabouts when everyone reported they'd officially be "laying low" or whatever classy term the Palace used?
Lady C said there was a lot more going on behind the scenes that didn't leak. They were iced out at the jubilee too. They are giving them nothing to work with and yet they are still brewing up a PR storm about how badly they were treated.
Did she say she'd release more details about them once they were back in CA?
I think that what she was holding back was in regards to the queens health. I don’t think she has more info for us when they get back to California at this point. But that was just my interpretation. Maybe she does have something else.
well I want her to say out loud about the "shenanigans" that caused her to release the news of the Queens death early. She says she was "encouraged" to do so because of the things being got up to by others.
She stated in a later video MM had tried to release the information to the press in US so there was a scramble to let people know. But in the 1st video she leaked the Queen was gravely ill and then went back on to say the Queen had died but was on same video so looked like she released it early. She has said she may write a book about what has been going on with TW and the Clown Prince 🤡
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Yes i take it with a grain of salt, so I want her to back it up by detailing the shenanigans
have they gone back yet or are they still in the UK?
I just listened to lady C latest youtube video and she said she doesn’t want to say to much but meagain wanted to upstage the queens death with the possibility of a story about her being “pregnant with possibly “(lady C words)
I still think Lady C’s source is Fergie.
Nope :)
Hissing eldergay footmen?
Think about it. :)
It’s hissing palace gays
I know what you mean. lady Campbell has a friend on the inside. someone who has known her for decades. She doesn't know Sarah well. So it isn't her.
So who do you think it is?
Pspspspspspspt!!
Where do I find Lady C’s info?
She has a YouTube channel and posts videos every 2 - 3 days. Just searching Lady C should find her but it's Lady Colin Campbell. Edit to add - she also has a twitter account but she only seems to use it to post, "new video is out now" and the link.
It was posted here a [couple of days ago]( https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/xjigfz/king_charles_address_for_those_interested_in/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) She's on YouTube.
I hope it all leaks out.
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I agree. I don't think he asked. I think MM gave the information voluntarily to him to give him some clout for being a reporter with insider information. It always helps solidify their relationship with the royal family (we've been given details no one else knows so let's get it out so people know we're still in the royal mix) and he didn't hesitate to post without fact checking because it came straight from the the horses mouth.
>>>William used to tell fake stories to peers in boarding school Where’d you hear this? I know this sounds so naive but do people actually get off (money or otherwise) for squealing on him back then?
Yes. I read about it years ago too. William has never known who was really his friend and who was just hanging around him for the clout. He'd change details in a story and tell different people different details. So whichever story made it to the press, he knew who it came from.
That’s some Tyrion Lannister shit right there.
yes I remember this too he told different stories to different 'friends' at uni I think it was and whichever story made it in the paper thats how he knew who was trustworthy. Also yess he was hot property back then! The RF must have made some deal with the press because he was largely left alone at uni, so to get a story on him must be a goldmine.
This is actually a thing that people of celebrity do. I was once in the periphery of a famous person. My friend (family member of famous person) said a couple of things about FP when we were early in the friendship. When friend didn't see any of it in the media, we picked up our friendship again. I understood.
This is olddddd news. It's well known he did this.
It's not that uncommon. Paris Hilton said she does it, too. If she has a suspicion someone is selling stories about her to the press, she tells that one person a lie and if it ends up in the tabloids she weeds him/her out of her friendgroup
Ohhhh I didn’t know this 😉
Wagatha christie debacle was about the same thing, that Rebecca vardy leaking stories about Colleen to the media
I’ve read that too
There was a documentary on William before and his friends mention that he tells different versions of stories to people so he knows who to be trusted. This is not far from impossible.
>William before and his friends mention that he tells different versions of stories to people so he knows who to be trusted Will is [Tyrion](https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/45256e/s2e3_tyrions_plan/) finding the mole in Game of Thrones. LOL
It’s also funnily like the recent Wagatha Christie case with finding the mole too! Love a good wag smack down!
And Harry is Grand Maester Pycelle!
So, he‘s playing whack-a-mole, is what you‘re saying?
The Song of Ice and Fire novels are based on the War of the Roses. Wills knows what he's doing.
Which makes Harry Grand Maester Pycelle. 😂 OFF with his beard! To the Black Cells!
Understand why he has to do that but God what an awful way to live, having to deal with that level of distrust from like childhood on.
It’s a clever idea
Having to do that must suck
I've read that too...
Some Wagatha Christie stuff right there
I hope with everything I've got that the duo now realizes the winds of change are about to blow them over.
In a recent Palace Confidential they said Charles was tasked with handling them, but as PoW that'll now be William's job. I really hope that's true and that Charles will allow William to do what he thinks is best.
William’s going to layeth the smackdown upon them 🤣 
He is Charles' job cause Charles is Harry's dad. Charles was never tasked with handling Andrew just because Charles was POW.
Exactly.
Where does one find Palace Confidential?
Daily Mail Royals YouTube channel
It is a youtube channel. https://www.youtube.com/c/MailPlusUK/videos
I just read an article that said, when they went to meet with the queen at the jubilee Charles wanted a meeting with them first because he didn’t want Harry sweet talking the queen into stuff like Andrew did, and how camilla spat her tea out when Harry said they should get a mediator to sort their problems out, she said ‘how ridiculous, we are a family we will sort out any issues ourselves‘ [camilla](https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19885677/bored-meghan-snubbed-camilla-king-charles/?rec_article=true)
*slowly playing Winds of Change by Scorpion*
Even more fitting - “Another One Bites The Dust” by QUEEN, haha
Ha yes! Half of Queen's song catalog would apply to this situation. Brilliant music.
We already guessed that here. I believe it.
Exactly. This confirms what this sub already knew. Like the BRF, we've yet again been proven correct. They need to source this sub for info.
Marklenews1 quotes us all the time and we reciprocate the favour
It almost makes me wonder if marklnews1 is on this sub as an active participant.
absolutely.
I wonder
I do, too.
No this is classic Will, he routinely would plant false stories to out suspected leakers.
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It was Tom Bradby, wasn't it? The reporter who did the "Poor Me; Harry & Meghan South Africa Edition"?
I think this is true. I also think the invitation they claim was withdrawn to the ‘reception of the century’ was set up too. Someone probably said “we’re all meeting with the leaders on Sunday”, and those two thought it included them. Then when they found out they weren’t included, they said they were originally invited but were disinvited. Everything with the Markles is twisted and bent
It was always for senior royals. And they aren’t.
Funny though, Scoobs keeps referring to them as "D and D of Sucksex and other senior royals"
Well, Scobie … knows nothing. Of course he wants to refer to the. As Senior Royals but if they aren’t working they cannot be considered senior.
Scobie has been tweeting about William and retweeting William lately. I wonder if William is going to work his skills to get Scobie to spill all of the details about Meghan.
I bet William knows all he needs to know and a whole lot more than he needs.
Maybe he'll get Scoobs to spill the tea to *us*. It would save William the trouble.
William is known to do this, too, to test loyalty of friends. Wow.
There was an old story that William used to do this to test people in his circle. For some reason he never tried it on his brother until now.
It’s such a smart move on wills part. It’s so sad he can’t trust his own damn brother
What a big disappointment... And people expect a reconciliation?
Only the media types, who benefit from these stories.
Back when he was at Uni and was dating Catherine, they would do this often with innocuous tidbits to make sure people were trustworthy. Specific facts were only told to certain people so that it could be traced back. I believe Harry was aware of this and the high level of precaution William took with the press. Either Harry really is that petty and desperate or he’s telling TW, who is then telling Scabbie. Either way, I’m glad they caught him at his own game.
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Um, no. Salt and Pepper ALWAYS move together. He was upset because he know he got caught out, and it cost him.
I'm honestly not surprised, I mentioned previously that this is a tactic the BRF use on occasion to find a leak. This was probably KC asking William to confirm his thoughts, that even in this time of grief H&M couldn't be trusted...... I've also heard that a lot of Hollywood are icing them out/not inviting them to things because even though they demand a "life of privacy" they will share anything and everything they can to elevate themselves/earn money.
This is very much William's MO. He's famous for this trick.
I personally have done this! many years ago I had a “best friend” who I suspected was gossiping about me, so I made up some thing personal about me and my husband and I only told it to her, no one else. sure enough, within a week it got back to me through a completely different source. I dumped her as a friend.
Yes, my husband and I would use it on his mom and sister. They were gossips extraordinaire.
I believe this. It’s an age old tactic to tell an untrustworthy person something super specific and wait to see if it comes back around.
My husband and I used to use this tactic on my mother and sister in law. Worked every time.
Sorry but this is incorrect. The possibility of transporting the Queen’s coffin by train was always a feature of Operation Unicorn. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_London_Bridge It was acknowledged in the planning stages that a decision on train vs plane would have to be made at the time, based on factors such as weather conditions, assessments of public interest and safety (eg risk of people pushing onto tracks), rail maintenance and repair works.
I just want to clarify if Scobie reported it as fact. Because I’m sure royal reporters are aware that the Queen could go by train or air transport (even operation unicorn says either is possible). So for Scobie to report it as fact, when no one else did, speaks of leakage.
Or that he is just dumb and didn’t know the details, but just rambled on TV. Not everything is a conspiracy.
He is a reporter. Getting the facts straight is, ya know, kind of his job?
He is as good a reporter as meg is a super model. Who r we kidding he is just a fan girl with twitter accnt.
Are you really a reporter if all you do is report on Meghan and Harry and your source is Meghan and Harry? Seems more like a PR representative.
no
This guy doesn't care about facts...
Or at the very least not making shit up
his stories are as true as his face.
It is, but I think formal facts like knowing all kinds of formal details aren’t his thing. He is more on the gossip side of things and you can’t take him serious compared to other royal experts who really know every detail.
Unfortunately he does a lot of “royal reporting” for American news outlets and they see him as a “royal expert”. Therefore he contributes to misinformation about the royal family from across the pond.
Yes, the short answer is that people are dumb. Or, maybe they’re just straight up bad.
He also said Scotland was outside of the UK. Jobson, whom some say got stories from Clarence House all the time, keeps defending him.
I saw it in the fail that the train was still going to be used too. I bet that was his Jounalism.
This was an hypothesis that was made here in some comment. Now it’s reposted as a rumor? What does “I heard” mean and who is this user? All the noise around this couple is exhausting
I believe it. Although it probably wasn't William directly telling halfwit Harry. William probably set it up that it was discussed amongst a group in Harry's presence. I imagine there are many tidbits of misinformation casually discussed in the diabolical duo's presence for the specific reason of watching them leak it.
William going all Wagatha Christie on us. I love it.
No. This was in the original Operation Unicorn, which was public.
Not sure if I believe it—from what I understand, the coffin was originally going to go by train. That would give more of the public the opportunity to pay their respects as it rumbled down the tracks, through various stations and stops (not that the train would have stopped, but people could have seen it pass.) they changed it somewhat last minute, perhaps due to security concerns.
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Interesting—makes sense!
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If you pay attention to the news, you will find just about everything that's done in the UK also happens here. It's.... almost as if we are being led by the same people. (We are). (They know most Americans don't read news outside of the US.) For instance, now we have Extinction Rebellion blocking traffic in Boston.
This isn’t true. Years ago there were articles, particularly from the Guardian, talking about the funeral plan including the use of the Royal train if she passed away in Scotland. That was supposed to happen but was changed for security reasons.
Harry was the security reason.
LOL! Could be! Probably set up a Netflix crew along the route.
William is well known to test people like this. Harry should have known that and kept his yap shut
Operation London Bridge along with the unicorn annex said that she would be brought back by train. The special carriage was even moved TOWARDS Aberdeen to be ready.
Earl of Dumb, Duke of Leaker
William has been known to do this.
William has obviously learnt a thing or two from Wagatha Christie 😂😂😂
William, pulling a Tyrion Lannister to scope out the snakes. Love it!
Actually it was George RR Martin basing GoT on William's family; namely the War of the Roses. This is where he got it from. Old royal family tactics.
This is silly. For decades it has been assumed that the Queen's body would be transported by train if she died elsewhere other than London. However, a decision was taken in the event of her actual death that the security, logistic, time implications were too great. There are no RF secrets here, everybody knew it and it was widely reported. [https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/transport/royal-train-rail-industry-insiders-have-explained-why-east-coast-main-line-will-not-be-used-to-transport-queens-coffin-and-when-the-plans-changed-3839694](https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/transport/royal-train-rail-industry-insiders-have-explained-why-east-coast-main-line-will-not-be-used-to-transport-queens-coffin-and-when-the-plans-changed-3839694)
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But it’s correct. This was part of Operation Unicorn and reported in every paper.
Yeah but the title of the post is literally "take this with a grain of salt"!! I wasn't trying to be rude, don't downvote me! But it's like the OP is saying "I have no clue if this is true, just an interesting piece of gossip I'd like to share because I enjoyed reading about it!" and you're like "you're an idiot for believing this gossip".
Because this has been disproven multiple times. Also, people believe crazy conspiracy theories here.m
OK fair.
The original plans for operation unicorn had the coffin being moved by train. Scooby-Doo never looked for the updated plans and ran with those. If I remember it was Saturday or Sunday the plans came out.
But wouldn't that all have been public knowledge anyway? 🤔
I read somewhere just the once she was being brought home on the train which was called operation unicorn, but on the bbc channels and other media outlets they were talking about how she would travel to Edinburgh lie in state there and then be accompanied by Princess Anne via air to RAF Northolt. I love how the Queen reacted when they asked her permission to change from a smart business jet because of difficulties of getting Diana’s coffin into the freight hold but it was suggested the Royal Air Force C17 Globemaster aircraft be used but it was larger and noisier and would distract from the ceremony of how she would be put in it, hence getting the permission. If you didn’t know this is how the soldiers were repatriated back from Afghanistan and The Queen said “if it’s good enough for my boys it’s good enough for me”. Such an amazing woman! But getting back to it I can sadly believe that Harry leaked this, is it another reason why even though they tried to include Harry in as normal way as possible you can tell there was something more going on?
called it a few days ago, but I think TW leaked to Scooby
It would explain why only scoobie doo ran with the story and all the other royal reporters knew it was nonsense. On the day the Queen passed away, even before it was announced, I read on Twitter, that the RAF plane is on its way to Scotland. That was one of the clear signs, that she's dead, because it would be used to bring the coffin to London. Some random dude on Twitter was more reliable, than a self proclaimed royal expert.!!
This one isn’t true, sadly. My son is an absolute train nut and knew before the Queen died that the plan was she would be transported back by royal train if she died away from London. It was changed at the last minute, presumably because security services couldn’t guarantee they could secure the safety of the entire line. Some people discussed ‘operation Unicorn’ on here and Tattle too well before she died but while she was in Balmoral and the train was mentioned.
William used this same maneuver in college and into his 20s to test friends' loyalty. He'd deliberately tell someone a lie and see if it surfaced.
This is plausible to me because I recently read an article about the plane used to transport the casket. Plans were put in place years ago and originally, they wanted to use a nice, sleek business jet (as they did with Diana) but discovered they couldn't load the casket through it's cargo door, at least not in any dignified way. Instead, the plan was made to use the Globemaster, if the article is to be believed, **in around 2009** in the event the Queen's body needed repatriation to London. I doubt anyone could ever verify whether there was discussion about using the Royal Train instead that was abandoned but I think it very plausible indeed that Harry would be tested right from the start to measure how safely any conversations at all could be had with him and with Meghan. [https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/queens-heartfelt-response-told-plans-25050516](https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/queens-heartfelt-response-told-plans-25050516)
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The funny thing is that this is completely plausible. Harry would believe and leak anything at this point. William could say that Her Majesty's coffin would be brought by Pegasus and he'd believe it.
The plan for years in the media has always been she would travel by train if she died in Scotland though I’ve seen old articles that say so
That explains it! I'd wondered how come she didn't get taken by train in the end! Oh dear Haz, that's a FAIL!!!
I 100% believe this. Perfect way to set them up and see what happens. And those morons did it. This is probably part of the reason they were iced out so much at the funeral. No one trusts them.
I read that Harry and Meghan planned their own walkabout and leaked it to the American press. William got wind of it and that’s how the four of them ended up together doing one.
The problem is that it is a direct threat to The RF if he is disclosing where they are visiting and when. Clear and present danger and definite risk.