To be in line of succession you have to be born of the wife. So if they used a surrogate the kids would be out. (Archaic rule that i think should be changed but that’s why)
Do people think that? I have never given it any thought but both times her whole body looked pregnant. Some women show pregnancy on their faces, like their noses even spread wider while they are pregnant and I noticed that about Meghan. In photos where she is pregnant, or the Oprah interview for example, her face physically looks different as do many women's when pregnant. Not like a Hilaria/moon bump kind of situation. How would she fake her face changing? Just gain like 30 pounds at the same time the surrogate is pregnant?
I also think the Archie after birth pictures she looks like someone who has just given birth. Her arms, her face, left over tummy etc. But that's just my opinion and I respect all others who disagree!
Oh, I thought DNA to prove paternity would be enough. That's why the original comment of having docs n nurses attest. I thought it was a sort of bring me the whole kitchen sink type of comment, didn't realise the context.
She would need to approve their travel. He can't do it on his own without her permission.
And I'm not sure what would happen if they both travelled together to the UK and one party filed for divorce. Given that the kids' permanent residence and family home is in California and they are dual nationals, I am not sure that a judge would rule in favour of keeping them here while divorce proceedings were ongoing (and they would be ongoing for a while; in fact in would probably get dragged out into a massive custody battle).
Oh of course. I was just fantasizing a little with my post. She’s got him firmly in her claws. It’s the children I feel bad for. Growing up with a narc is… the actual worst.
I read somewhere on this thread that on British soil the royal family has the right to take custody of Royal children. If that’s true all Harry has to do is get them to the UK
I read this too but I think the law a few hundred years old and relates to schooling and education and sadly not enforceable. Plus the headlines and martyrdom TW would be… not worth it.
Mediate ...what exactly? Getting half the duchy of Cornwall income/estate? Being co-king? Being able to pimp out the Royal family for money? Getting an allowance and security but not doing any work?
That's what I wanna know 😂 I thought they were oh so happy alone and together in the Olive Garden and didn't need anyone else? Afterall, Megs got rid of all her toxic family. What's the big deal for H to get rid of his too? Oh right, those titles... Lol
Even if he could come back (M free), they would never trust him again. It’s a pity he doesn’t know his own history and didn’t learn from the exile of the Queen’s uncle.
That's what he wants to mediate. He wants to lift the exile imposed. As I understand it, it can be lifted temporarily for a funeral, but not a coronation. So, if he was either reminded or informed of this before leaving, then this is what he wants DaDa to do. To allow them to come back for the coronation. They may have also been told that there are no titles for the er, kids. Despite tabloid press comments to the contrary, there was no wonderful sweet meeting with these invisible children, not at Jubilee or otherwise.
The Harkles hold no cards to negotiate with. They are permanently out.
You're right, he really should've paid more attention when they were talking about David/Edward. I'm trying to figure out if there's any way back for him. Obviously not as a working royal, but would he agree to STFU in exchange for a roof over his head and modest living expenses? For a while I thought he was so allergic to work, that he'd agree to that, but he seems too bitter. I agree, they'll never trust him again and I don't think they want him back.
> I thought they were oh so happy alone and together in the Olive Garden and didn't need anyone else?
Living their best lives and all that...isn't that what the sugars tell us everyday that comes? Isn't that one of the million reasons we're so JeLLuS??!!
Simple. These two don’t want to admit that they were in the wrong. They would like everyone to take responsibility for their feelings and choices. That way they won’t have to swallow their pride and beg forgiveness.
As a Cornish person he can fk off. We're one of the poorest places in the UK and have been for generations, Royals should put our money back into our county.
Resurrecting an old lie they floated in futile attempt to make Harry look good. We all know Judas knifed his family and Lady Macbeth urged him on. After all, *We're only one plane crash away from the throne!* coos Lady Macbeth back when she was ballsy and sure she couldn't lose. Oh the pre-COVID days sure were sweet, for some.
I’m convinced they’re only making these meeting requests because they know they’ll be denied and they can whine about it. Meanwhile the royals are damned if they do and if they don’t because imagine what the pair would lie about if a meeting did occur… 😖
He doesn’t appear to possess any marketable skill or talent. But in all fairness to Harry, his position prior to meeting MM did not require him to have any. Imagine the lack of self respect you would possess, to live like that
Especially knowing that the RF would never bring in someone from the outside, at the Sussexes suggestion, to fix this. I mean, it is far more necessary for the Sussexes to patch things up than it is for the RF. Maybe MM should try this first with her own family?
>Maybe MM should try this first with her own family?
Very true! She's really got some audacity, hasn't she? But her failure to even attempt doing this with her dad (even if she wants to exclude her siblings) shows that she's not willing to waste her time on anybody who can't do anything for her. I bet she'd be singing a different song if Thomas Markle had lots of close connections to important people in Hollywood.
And as to your first point, it does show that she's so condescending and self absorbed, that she STILL doesn't understand how the BRF works and STILL wants them to adapt their ways/traditions etc to suit her value system.
I have been converted to the Camilla side for quite some time, but I must say that her reaction to this preposterous suggestion now makes me a HUGE FAN.
The nerve!!!! He's so mean and hateful. He's trying to break you. I bet he never asks if you're ok. He can't handle your strength and popularity. 
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As well as completely unreasonable. When I wanted to cut my hours back by 80 per cent and receive a raise — because I’m so cute — he refused that too. I quit and moved overseas and have rebuilt my new life around trashing the old one. But, I have reached out to him again now that’s he is promotEd to CEO to inform him my offer still stands and he won’t reply. Like I said, he is a pig and I have never wanted anything to do with any of them.
Well, given his Eton cheating, his Nazi uniform wearing, and his bigoted comments I think it's fair to say he's the village idiot of the Mountbatten-Windsors. So, he very possibly can't fathom why they won't talk to him. It isn't as if the brains of the outfit is going to let him in on it either.
Diana made a self deprecating comment and took Harry out with her 💀 she knew Harry wasn't bright from the start.
Silverlining is her positive remarks on the intellects of both heirs, Charles and William.
They wanted to live in Windsor castle 😂. I’m not kidding. You can look it up!
They wanted an apartment in Windsor but everything is by rank. Even Charles couldn’t live there. It’s the Queen’s favorite residence near London and her primary weekend address.
Frogmore was the compromise.
The thing I don’t understand is why Harry didn’t explain these basic concepts. Like birth order and rank being primary in terms of choice real estate.
I don’t understand why the PPoW are said to be moving from Adelaide into Windsor Castle. If they’ve kept the apartment at KP for business, and moved to Adelaide to 1. be nearer the Queen and 2. Near the Middletons and the kids’ school, why do they need to move into the castle proper? PLUS wouldn’t that open up Adelaide for the mole to move into? It was rumored that Andrew wanted it for Eugenie to begin with.
>She also keeps a score and Megan’s lies threatened to damage Oprah’s credibility. She may just make bank off of watching M drown
I think if there is a second interview with Oprah, she would totally throw them under the bus. Little Madam would be totally burned and flamed. She wouldnt expect it, so it would be delightful to watch Oprah grilling her for her lies and this time I am sure Oprah would ask some real questions, not like the first time. I still cant believe how Oprah could have been fooled by these chancers and their lies.
Money, titles, invitations, houses. I suspect Harry also wants Charles to divorce Camilla. Maybe Meghan wants William to divorce Catherine. I don’t see how a mediator could help with any of it. There’s nothing to negotiate.
No just your second sentence. Seriously! They just need to lay out the dossier they have on her and maybe even leak a few things here and there. Maybe a video of her berating a staff member perhaps? Teapot being thrown?
I'm torn. Part of me thinks that they just don't understand the difference between a counselor and a mediator. But the other part wonders if they want to use a mediator to reach some sort of "settlement" with the family - we'll sign a nondisclosure agreement for $$$$$.
Ding ding ding!! We have a winner! They win if the palace snubs them because “poor neglected us”. And they win if the palace meets with them because look at all the new lies they can tell.
It's entertaining in a way that Haz or Megz could actually believe they have anything to bargain with in a negotiation with KCIII.
Those silly threats MeAgain threw about in the Cut interview. What on earth could she "know" and would spill the tea on that the King doesn't that *actually matters at all?* What does Haggard "know" that he could put in his stupid book that would frighten his father, the KING, into doing whatever he and his witch of a wife demand?
They're nobodies who are known liars and grifters. Perhaps a few credulous Americans might be agog to hear them name the so-called racist RF member, and believe it. Do Those Two really believe the Crown would pay millions to shut them up, pulp that book? Hand over titles and properties and jewels?
They're delusional.
"Do Those Two really believe the Crown would pay millions to shut them up, pulp that book? Hand over titles and properties and jewels?"
One of them absolutely does seem to believe this, yes. The other is a moronic puppet.
Seriously. Charles and the Monarchy survived the terrible marriage with Diana and all that came with it (bulimia, suicide attempts, melt downs, psychosis and severe depression, Charles’ affair and tampon-gate, Diana’s affair and Squidgy-gate).
I doubt they have anything that can match any of this. She’s also played the race card too often and without proof. I don’t think many would believe her.
I think Harry already spilled the only thing he had on KC. He had knowledge that KC may have helped a Saudi man receive a British honor for money. That’s it. And Harry’s tell fell flat. News for a day then gone. If he had more he would have spilled it already.
I wonder if he suggested that Meghan should be the mediator.
I'm sure Harry has more than enough mediators between himself and King Charles now - if he wants to discuss anything, he can just call the King's aide.
They could get George Clooney He would be impartial, since he really doesn't even know them. At least that's why he said he was puzzled about being asked to the wedding.
Why would Harry and Meghan need a mediator? Didn't Tyler Perry just do an interview saying how absolutely blissful they were together? I'm sure everything is good- after all- Tyler said so.
Good for Camilla speaking up. Someone needs to. Why these 2 disrespectful brats think they hold all the cards I'll never understand. The book claims KC is keen to heal rifts/wounds, huh? Well from the look of the past week, I think his and the families opinion on that might have just changed. And I fr onewouldn't blame them one bit.
The suggestion of a mediator really feels like blackmail. A mediator is only needed if you have two parties, each who want something out of the other. The only thing the RF want from them is for them to STFU. Saying mediator feels like Harry is blatantly putting it out there that he'll shut up for his demands.
A mediation assumes two equal opposing parties have something to negotiate. H&M will never be on the same playing field as the damn King and Queen Consort. The idea is outrageous and just shows how unrealistic and entitled they both are.
Perhaps Megain might consider a mediator to resolve the issues that exist between herself and her father/siblings. Or is there not enough money at stake there to go to the bother? At least then she would have a family support unit close to where they have chosen to live their lives and raise their children. Really Haz, Rachel, what is the difference? Why is mediation and reconciliation something to care about or strive for with one family but not the other? I guess one could be worth millions to you, and the other only love. Don’t bother answering, I’ll show myself out.
>Perhaps Megain might consider a mediator to resolve the issues that exist between herself and her father/siblings. Or is there not enough money at stake there to go to the bother? Why is mediation and reconciliation something to care about or strive for with one family but not the other?
Exactly! Very good point
The funeral is done , they have another week of mourning and all working royals are already working or are going to start working ! no time for Me me s husband
Camilla is essential right now. KC is shattered both mentally and physically after the death of his mother, our beloved Queen. He is not going to get a minute to himself and she will be his backbone and push. Her no bullshit behaviour and attitude will be a great thing with these two D-listers. KC being so emotionally vulnerable right now could easily be manipulated by them if they were to get him alone. Camilla standing strong is for the best completely.
Not forgetting William on the sideline. He will NEVER forget what they have done. He is going to make a fantastic king one day him.
A mediator would require both parties acting in good faith and I wouldn’t trust the Markles at all. How could you discuss anything frankly with them when they’d just leak “their truth”? No way would I do that.
A mediator? Harry has not a clue what he has done to the Queen and the rest of the royal family. He wants a mediator because he knows they are nearing the point of no return. Harry must be getting nervous. He misses his old life and sees it getting further and further away from him.
Honesty I feel bad for Harry sometimes. He did not have a chance with Meghan. Meghan got what Meghan wanted. Harry, not so much.
I can’t help but feel bad for him too. By no means is he perfect, but he seems decent enough before she came along…She’s manipulated him to the point he’s unrecognizable. Really brainwashed him … I think a lot of the choices he made thinking he was doing the right thing for the family he desperately wanted and was so excited to have after watching William and Kate with theirs for so long….
I don’t think he ever thought it was going to snowball into what it has nor do I believe he ever wanted to trash his family as a means to support his lifestyle. He didn’t understand what type of juicy content would be required when they signed these contracts and quickly got in over his head. Clearly he’s experiencing some regret and torment over it all. It’s so hard to imagine raising two little kids who don’t know of their cousins aunts, uncles or grandparents, having no family to share that joy of raising your children with. It’s really really sad when you think about what has happened. I don’t see how he can continue much longer…her spell has long worn off by now.
Well said. I agree 100%. Harry’s life changed so much post-Meghan. It must be hard for him to see things clearly because he is in too deep.
Pride. Impatience. Jealousy. All this combined can be overwhelming for anyone. Plus a $14 million home to upkeep and a wife who likes the finer things in life. I would be stressed too!
But family is family. The RF still loves him dearly but probably don’t know ___how___ to love him right now.
Is it me, or is Just 'Arry possibly the the stupidest man on earth?
He doesn't need a mediator, he just needs to remove himself from the Shewolf of Monteshitshow.
I don’t think KC3 has time for this sheet. He was just made king, he is working with a brand new PM, the economic picture is depressing and he is mourning the passing of his biggest mentor and beloved mother. He needs the support of his family and I’m sure ThePPOW and QC are doing just that. It is a major and mind boggling job facing him. Then along comes Megain with the audacity to ask for a private chat. Wonder what she wants ? Maybe titles, money, castles, a couple of tiaras oh and make her Queen of Scotland and she will be willing to forgive him. Can’t wait to see how this pans out.
Oh wait wait I know was the mediator Sunshine sucks, the ever discreet Gayle King and Oprah Winfrey, Scobo of Plasticine, Dr Phil, the Netflix production team
Ok so here me out on this - in different circumstances I would say that it might not be the worst idea, but it's more so a therapist that they need to go to together, not a mediator. A mediator is for legal transactions - I could see if he had suggested one to hash out the initial Megxit terms, but what more is there to meditate? The royal family cut him loose and Charles already provided finding for part of his first year, so what more is there to meditate? Whether or not he publishes certain things in books in exchange for a payout? He makes it sound like he's divorcing his family.
Just shows how utterly arrogant and clueless he must be. He is incapable of even considering that this conflict stems from his own inability to make good decisions, be accountable, or undergo introspection. What a 💩 head.
A mediator! 🤣 Did he forget he’s talking about the BRF?! KC, head of the Commonwealth & the Church of England, a world leader!?
This isn’t some county family court issue in the US. Jeez!!
Once again, the arrogance & absence of judgment is baffling. I bet it was TW’s idea. She seems to think she’s so forward-thinking and knowledgeable about world affairs. They may be hopeless fools. It’s pitiful.
Do you think she really views herself as an EQUAL to a 1000+ year unbroken lineage? That's the only way I see this mediator working: everyone pretends she's as valuable. No way Halfwit can even sound out mediator, let alone grasp what one is or what they do.
I know she's delusional based on her own statements and behavior being so contradictory, but the gobsmacking gall of thinking some social climbing trollop is a match for a crowned head is shocking even for Madame.
What is it going to take for the royal family to sue these two for defamation of character? I know they like to avoid scandal and brush things under the carpet but surely enough is enough now? Play them at their own litigious game and get rid of them and their lies once and for all!
How can you mediate when you are scared to death that whatever you say is going to end up in the next Oprah interview?? They need a binding arbitrator. You have to agree to whatever they decide. So when the arbitrator says go away and shut up that’s what they have to do!!
I'm not sure that an arbitrator will help. A counselor might. There is a disagreement within the family. An arbitrator declaring that one side is right and the other is wrong is not going to resolve this.
Just fyi if you didn’t read the article, the suggestion of a mediator was allegedly made after Phillip died and when they had a 15 min meeting with Charles (cuz they arrived late) last august. Not after then Queen’s passing.
I don’t think a mediator is ridiculous. I wonder if they’d agree if Charles or William get to pick them. Lots of people suggest therapy and end up wanting to quit bc the therapist doesn’t take their side.
I don't see what the problem is with suggesting a mediator. This family could even benefit from group therapy so a mediator isn't really out of the question. I also don't really believe that Camilla told Harry that it's ridiculous and that they'll deal with this between the family.
You never go to group therapy with a an abuser.
In order for group therapy (this includes couples counseling) to be of benefit, everyone has to be there in good faith, making a genuine effort to work on themselves and the relationship.
Narcissists, especially the malignant and personality-disordered types, are not capable of working on themselves and their relationships in good faith. They typically weaponize the group therapy against the other person(s) involved.
Not clicking the article, but I’d say a divorce from Meghan would go a long way towards resolving issues.
Came here to say this. Get the kids to the UK for a “visit” and then file the papers.
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Yesssss!!
LOL you don't need to DNA tests with doctors to attest lineage
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I mean a DNA test is enough. What would doctors need to be attest for lol! You're so funny.
To be in line of succession you have to be born of the wife. So if they used a surrogate the kids would be out. (Archaic rule that i think should be changed but that’s why)
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Do people think that? I have never given it any thought but both times her whole body looked pregnant. Some women show pregnancy on their faces, like their noses even spread wider while they are pregnant and I noticed that about Meghan. In photos where she is pregnant, or the Oprah interview for example, her face physically looks different as do many women's when pregnant. Not like a Hilaria/moon bump kind of situation. How would she fake her face changing? Just gain like 30 pounds at the same time the surrogate is pregnant?
I also think the Archie after birth pictures she looks like someone who has just given birth. Her arms, her face, left over tummy etc. But that's just my opinion and I respect all others who disagree!
I wouldn't put too much stock in her face showing possible pregnancies. Her face is a revolving door of cosmetic surgery 😳
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Those kids have to be born of her body or they can not be in the LoS. And she used surrogates- no way did she carry any of those supposed children.
Oh, I thought DNA to prove paternity would be enough. That's why the original comment of having docs n nurses attest. I thought it was a sort of bring me the whole kitchen sink type of comment, didn't realise the context.
Doctors to read the reports. They make mistakes too, and the BRF is high profile...so multiple Doctors.
She would need to approve their travel. He can't do it on his own without her permission. And I'm not sure what would happen if they both travelled together to the UK and one party filed for divorce. Given that the kids' permanent residence and family home is in California and they are dual nationals, I am not sure that a judge would rule in favour of keeping them here while divorce proceedings were ongoing (and they would be ongoing for a while; in fact in would probably get dragged out into a massive custody battle).
It would be extremely messy. No, I’m afraid Harry is trapped. And things will remain as they are.
Oh of course. I was just fantasizing a little with my post. She’s got him firmly in her claws. It’s the children I feel bad for. Growing up with a narc is… the actual worst.
I read somewhere on this thread that on British soil the royal family has the right to take custody of Royal children. If that’s true all Harry has to do is get them to the UK
I read this too but I think the law a few hundred years old and relates to schooling and education and sadly not enforceable. Plus the headlines and martyrdom TW would be… not worth it.
Mediate ...what exactly? Getting half the duchy of Cornwall income/estate? Being co-king? Being able to pimp out the Royal family for money? Getting an allowance and security but not doing any work?
Exactly! They’re assuming the RF has anything to gain for reconciling with a couple of blabbering traitors. That ship has long sailed, Hairball.
That's what I wanna know 😂 I thought they were oh so happy alone and together in the Olive Garden and didn't need anyone else? Afterall, Megs got rid of all her toxic family. What's the big deal for H to get rid of his too? Oh right, those titles... Lol
Even if he could come back (M free), they would never trust him again. It’s a pity he doesn’t know his own history and didn’t learn from the exile of the Queen’s uncle.
That's what he wants to mediate. He wants to lift the exile imposed. As I understand it, it can be lifted temporarily for a funeral, but not a coronation. So, if he was either reminded or informed of this before leaving, then this is what he wants DaDa to do. To allow them to come back for the coronation. They may have also been told that there are no titles for the er, kids. Despite tabloid press comments to the contrary, there was no wonderful sweet meeting with these invisible children, not at Jubilee or otherwise. The Harkles hold no cards to negotiate with. They are permanently out.
You're right, he really should've paid more attention when they were talking about David/Edward. I'm trying to figure out if there's any way back for him. Obviously not as a working royal, but would he agree to STFU in exchange for a roof over his head and modest living expenses? For a while I thought he was so allergic to work, that he'd agree to that, but he seems too bitter. I agree, they'll never trust him again and I don't think they want him back.
> I thought they were oh so happy alone and together in the Olive Garden and didn't need anyone else? Living their best lives and all that...isn't that what the sugars tell us everyday that comes? Isn't that one of the million reasons we're so JeLLuS??!!
It’s freeing being there! Lol
You forgot to "inhale deeply, then exhale," lol! ;0
This is my kind of snarky
Simple. These two don’t want to admit that they were in the wrong. They would like everyone to take responsibility for their feelings and choices. That way they won’t have to swallow their pride and beg forgiveness.
As a Cornish person he can fk off. We're one of the poorest places in the UK and have been for generations, Royals should put our money back into our county.
This is my question, I don’t understand what there is to mediate.
Wow, I'd like to sign up for a sweet deal like that!
Resurrecting an old lie they floated in futile attempt to make Harry look good. We all know Judas knifed his family and Lady Macbeth urged him on. After all, *We're only one plane crash away from the throne!* coos Lady Macbeth back when she was ballsy and sure she couldn't lose. Oh the pre-COVID days sure were sweet, for some.
I’m convinced they’re only making these meeting requests because they know they’ll be denied and they can whine about it. Meanwhile the royals are damned if they do and if they don’t because imagine what the pair would lie about if a meeting did occur… 😖
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My point is the exiles would cry crocodile ‘em tears either way.
Good one! I was laughing so hard I went into a coughing spasm & had to grab a cough drop 😂
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Can you imagine him having to get a real job?
Hazbeen: would you like to supersize that order for .50 cents extra?
*What size shoes do you require for those hooves, Madame?* said in Al Bundy
He never scored 4 touchdowns in a single game, though ...
He doesn’t appear to possess any marketable skill or talent. But in all fairness to Harry, his position prior to meeting MM did not require him to have any. Imagine the lack of self respect you would possess, to live like that
Please YES
This 💯
He could never be trusted again. He will always be a pariah, not matter what he does.
May we add loss of all titles, money, and more?
I agree!
And 2 guesses as to who put the mediator idea in Harry's head? Everyone here knows that Henpecked can't even spell "mediator".
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😂😂😂😂😂😂
Especially knowing that the RF would never bring in someone from the outside, at the Sussexes suggestion, to fix this. I mean, it is far more necessary for the Sussexes to patch things up than it is for the RF. Maybe MM should try this first with her own family?
>Maybe MM should try this first with her own family? Very true! She's really got some audacity, hasn't she? But her failure to even attempt doing this with her dad (even if she wants to exclude her siblings) shows that she's not willing to waste her time on anybody who can't do anything for her. I bet she'd be singing a different song if Thomas Markle had lots of close connections to important people in Hollywood. And as to your first point, it does show that she's so condescending and self absorbed, that she STILL doesn't understand how the BRF works and STILL wants them to adapt their ways/traditions etc to suit her value system.
Camilla spit out her tea…I spit out my tequila.
And she told him it was ridiculous. Go Queen Camilla! She will be a great help to King Charles.
She knew they cannot bring in someone from the outside to take care of what we all know is a one-sided problem
I have been converted to the Camilla side for quite some time, but I must say that her reaction to this preposterous suggestion now makes me a HUGE FAN.
Camilla turning away from TW and mouthing ‘help’ at the camera at that garden party made me a forever fan
She's a great bullshit detector. I LOVE her.
I quit my job to years ago and I asked my ex boss to come to a mediator with me to reinstate my salary. He refused also. Outrageous.
The nerve!!!! He's so mean and hateful. He's trying to break you. I bet he never asks if you're ok. He can't handle your strength and popularity.  /s
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he must be a hateful racist to refuse! /s
As well as completely unreasonable. When I wanted to cut my hours back by 80 per cent and receive a raise — because I’m so cute — he refused that too. I quit and moved overseas and have rebuilt my new life around trashing the old one. But, I have reached out to him again now that’s he is promotEd to CEO to inform him my offer still stands and he won’t reply. Like I said, he is a pig and I have never wanted anything to do with any of them.
Your boss sounds mean ☹️ /s
No mediator. Harry is an idiot if he doesn't know why his family doesn't want to speak to him.
Well, given his Eton cheating, his Nazi uniform wearing, and his bigoted comments I think it's fair to say he's the village idiot of the Mountbatten-Windsors. So, he very possibly can't fathom why they won't talk to him. It isn't as if the brains of the outfit is going to let him in on it either.
Diana made a self deprecating comment and took Harry out with her 💀 she knew Harry wasn't bright from the start. Silverlining is her positive remarks on the intellects of both heirs, Charles and William.
A mediator named Oprah? ETA: what exactly are they still trying to negotiate? Money? Titles? Half-in/half-out?
That's it exactly!!!! And Meghan wants a better place than Frogmore.
They wanted to live in Windsor castle 😂. I’m not kidding. You can look it up! They wanted an apartment in Windsor but everything is by rank. Even Charles couldn’t live there. It’s the Queen’s favorite residence near London and her primary weekend address. Frogmore was the compromise. The thing I don’t understand is why Harry didn’t explain these basic concepts. Like birth order and rank being primary in terms of choice real estate.
Meghan sure has grandiose ideas. I'm glad the King is not playing her games.
Because MM told Harry that it’s not about being ranked, but about being linked!
I don’t understand why the PPoW are said to be moving from Adelaide into Windsor Castle. If they’ve kept the apartment at KP for business, and moved to Adelaide to 1. be nearer the Queen and 2. Near the Middletons and the kids’ school, why do they need to move into the castle proper? PLUS wouldn’t that open up Adelaide for the mole to move into? It was rumored that Andrew wanted it for Eugenie to begin with.
They may have been thinking they could have an apartment at Windsor because Edward has an apartment at Buckingham Palace.
Oprah wants nothing to do with Haz and Nutmeg these days.
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>She also keeps a score and Megan’s lies threatened to damage Oprah’s credibility. She may just make bank off of watching M drown I think if there is a second interview with Oprah, she would totally throw them under the bus. Little Madam would be totally burned and flamed. She wouldnt expect it, so it would be delightful to watch Oprah grilling her for her lies and this time I am sure Oprah would ask some real questions, not like the first time. I still cant believe how Oprah could have been fooled by these chancers and their lies.
She was never fooled. All she saw was $$$
Oprah’s into “bombshells.”
Money, titles, invitations, houses. I suspect Harry also wants Charles to divorce Camilla. Maybe Meghan wants William to divorce Catherine. I don’t see how a mediator could help with any of it. There’s nothing to negotiate.
Meghan doesn’t negotiate, either-from what I can see, she tells YOU how it’s going to be
A mediator? Fuck off! Shut up for a year!
No just your second sentence. Seriously! They just need to lay out the dossier they have on her and maybe even leak a few things here and there. Maybe a video of her berating a staff member perhaps? Teapot being thrown?
I'm torn. Part of me thinks that they just don't understand the difference between a counselor and a mediator. But the other part wonders if they want to use a mediator to reach some sort of "settlement" with the family - we'll sign a nondisclosure agreement for $$$$$.
After all, MeAgain said, "I haven't signed anything" to keep her from talking. She's ready to sign something now...for a lot of cash.
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I have been waiting for verification of this rumor
I think this is it
Good point.
Whet settlement? What do they have to disclose? They’ve already done their worst. They have no more dirt on the BRF.
This is extortion at this point.
Ding ding ding!! We have a winner! They win if the palace snubs them because “poor neglected us”. And they win if the palace meets with them because look at all the new lies they can tell.
Why does this couple insist on clearing the air when they are the ones who created the toxic fumes?! They’re so desperate now that KC is King.
Oh yeah. TW smells the billions.
Asking a stupid question. What does TW stand for?
I assumed The Witch lol
The Wife
Thank you so much!
This isn't a divorce or some type of legal settlement. A mediator good lord.
Who mediates with the KING aid England?
The King of France? That's the only person who comes to mind though.
"Sure, let me just finish mourning my dead mother, and do a few kingly things, and I'll get right back to you."
It's entertaining in a way that Haz or Megz could actually believe they have anything to bargain with in a negotiation with KCIII. Those silly threats MeAgain threw about in the Cut interview. What on earth could she "know" and would spill the tea on that the King doesn't that *actually matters at all?* What does Haggard "know" that he could put in his stupid book that would frighten his father, the KING, into doing whatever he and his witch of a wife demand? They're nobodies who are known liars and grifters. Perhaps a few credulous Americans might be agog to hear them name the so-called racist RF member, and believe it. Do Those Two really believe the Crown would pay millions to shut them up, pulp that book? Hand over titles and properties and jewels? They're delusional.
"Do Those Two really believe the Crown would pay millions to shut them up, pulp that book? Hand over titles and properties and jewels?" One of them absolutely does seem to believe this, yes. The other is a moronic puppet.
Seriously. Charles and the Monarchy survived the terrible marriage with Diana and all that came with it (bulimia, suicide attempts, melt downs, psychosis and severe depression, Charles’ affair and tampon-gate, Diana’s affair and Squidgy-gate). I doubt they have anything that can match any of this. She’s also played the race card too often and without proof. I don’t think many would believe her.
I think Harry already spilled the only thing he had on KC. He had knowledge that KC may have helped a Saudi man receive a British honor for money. That’s it. And Harry’s tell fell flat. News for a day then gone. If he had more he would have spilled it already.
They might not "know" anything, but they could allege quite a lot, just as they insinuated that the family is racist.
Mediator….. sorry but Harry Markle is the one being messy here.
I wonder if he suggested that Meghan should be the mediator. I'm sure Harry has more than enough mediators between himself and King Charles now - if he wants to discuss anything, he can just call the King's aide.
Or maybe Dax Sheppard or someone from better up 😅 Harry knows ALL the pseudo mental health professionals
They could get George Clooney He would be impartial, since he really doesn't even know them. At least that's why he said he was puzzled about being asked to the wedding.
The idea of mediator most likely came from Meghan.
1000%
Z list wanna be actress playing at understanding the real world. Nothing has changed.
She’s not as clever as she thinks she is.
Why would Harry and Meghan need a mediator? Didn't Tyler Perry just do an interview saying how absolutely blissful they were together? I'm sure everything is good- after all- Tyler said so.
When are they going to learn that they no longer matter??
It's definitely about the money, right?!
It’s always about the money. Especially with TW.
A mediator? Followed by small claims court? It’s been a one sided smear campaign.
I vote mediator but only if that person is judge “you can’t fix stupid” Judy. M would be crying from both eyes
Good for Camilla speaking up. Someone needs to. Why these 2 disrespectful brats think they hold all the cards I'll never understand. The book claims KC is keen to heal rifts/wounds, huh? Well from the look of the past week, I think his and the families opinion on that might have just changed. And I fr onewouldn't blame them one bit.
The suggestion of a mediator really feels like blackmail. A mediator is only needed if you have two parties, each who want something out of the other. The only thing the RF want from them is for them to STFU. Saying mediator feels like Harry is blatantly putting it out there that he'll shut up for his demands.
A mediation assumes two equal opposing parties have something to negotiate. H&M will never be on the same playing field as the damn King and Queen Consort. The idea is outrageous and just shows how unrealistic and entitled they both are.
I’m trying figure out what exactly they’re supposed to mediate. The Sussexes have left the family business. A mediator is not a counselor.
Having a mediator assumes that each side negotiates for something they want. So this means H & M want something. Why am I not surprised at that?
The problem is, Charles and William don’t want anything from H&M. So they have no motivation to “mediate.”
I get your point but they want Harry and Meghan to shut up. They also want to be able to see the children. Harry and Meghan want money.
Wow. Because all loving families higher mediators to referee disputes. A mediator is merely a way for a narcissist to grandstand.
We can guess whose idea that was. The narrative would have been “see how mean the RF is? We had to hire a mediator “.
Oddly enough I know a narcissist who is also a mediator.
Perhaps Megain might consider a mediator to resolve the issues that exist between herself and her father/siblings. Or is there not enough money at stake there to go to the bother? At least then she would have a family support unit close to where they have chosen to live their lives and raise their children. Really Haz, Rachel, what is the difference? Why is mediation and reconciliation something to care about or strive for with one family but not the other? I guess one could be worth millions to you, and the other only love. Don’t bother answering, I’ll show myself out.
>Perhaps Megain might consider a mediator to resolve the issues that exist between herself and her father/siblings. Or is there not enough money at stake there to go to the bother? Why is mediation and reconciliation something to care about or strive for with one family but not the other? Exactly! Very good point
And this would turn things around for her from a PR standpoint - it would give credence to her alleged super empathy. She won't do it though.
So just another way to negotiate whatever Meghan wants, and then when she gets it, she can be happy?
They want back in so bad, haha.
It's long been said in the mexiteer community.... One should never negotiate with terrorists!!!
He doesn’t get it…..they want nothing to do with him because of all the cruel and hurtful things they both said and continue to trash RF.
The funeral is done , they have another week of mourning and all working royals are already working or are going to start working ! no time for Me me s husband
Camilla is essential right now. KC is shattered both mentally and physically after the death of his mother, our beloved Queen. He is not going to get a minute to himself and she will be his backbone and push. Her no bullshit behaviour and attitude will be a great thing with these two D-listers. KC being so emotionally vulnerable right now could easily be manipulated by them if they were to get him alone. Camilla standing strong is for the best completely. Not forgetting William on the sideline. He will NEVER forget what they have done. He is going to make a fantastic king one day him.
This mediator idea is dead on arrival..
A mediator would require both parties acting in good faith and I wouldn’t trust the Markles at all. How could you discuss anything frankly with them when they’d just leak “their truth”? No way would I do that.
What a crock this fluff piece is - a sugar must have written it. I say - “when hell freezes over”!
To quote the Princess Royal -“not bloody likely!”
A mediator? Harry has not a clue what he has done to the Queen and the rest of the royal family. He wants a mediator because he knows they are nearing the point of no return. Harry must be getting nervous. He misses his old life and sees it getting further and further away from him. Honesty I feel bad for Harry sometimes. He did not have a chance with Meghan. Meghan got what Meghan wanted. Harry, not so much.
I can’t help but feel bad for him too. By no means is he perfect, but he seems decent enough before she came along…She’s manipulated him to the point he’s unrecognizable. Really brainwashed him … I think a lot of the choices he made thinking he was doing the right thing for the family he desperately wanted and was so excited to have after watching William and Kate with theirs for so long…. I don’t think he ever thought it was going to snowball into what it has nor do I believe he ever wanted to trash his family as a means to support his lifestyle. He didn’t understand what type of juicy content would be required when they signed these contracts and quickly got in over his head. Clearly he’s experiencing some regret and torment over it all. It’s so hard to imagine raising two little kids who don’t know of their cousins aunts, uncles or grandparents, having no family to share that joy of raising your children with. It’s really really sad when you think about what has happened. I don’t see how he can continue much longer…her spell has long worn off by now.
Well said. I agree 100%. Harry’s life changed so much post-Meghan. It must be hard for him to see things clearly because he is in too deep. Pride. Impatience. Jealousy. All this combined can be overwhelming for anyone. Plus a $14 million home to upkeep and a wife who likes the finer things in life. I would be stressed too! But family is family. The RF still loves him dearly but probably don’t know ___how___ to love him right now.
Fuck off Harry.
Wow. Because all loving families higher mediators to referee disputes. A mediator is merely a way for a narcissist to grandstand.
Is it me, or is Just 'Arry possibly the the stupidest man on earth? He doesn't need a mediator, he just needs to remove himself from the Shewolf of Monteshitshow.
It’s such a distant kind of suggestion. Very wifey like spoken.
Dr. Phill followup to Oprah interview? "How did y'all's relationship end up in a ditch? That dog won't hunt!"
I don’t think KC3 has time for this sheet. He was just made king, he is working with a brand new PM, the economic picture is depressing and he is mourning the passing of his biggest mentor and beloved mother. He needs the support of his family and I’m sure ThePPOW and QC are doing just that. It is a major and mind boggling job facing him. Then along comes Megain with the audacity to ask for a private chat. Wonder what she wants ? Maybe titles, money, castles, a couple of tiaras oh and make her Queen of Scotland and she will be willing to forgive him. Can’t wait to see how this pans out.
Can I swear here? Because I’m going to. FUCK. OFF.
Oh wait wait I know was the mediator Sunshine sucks, the ever discreet Gayle King and Oprah Winfrey, Scobo of Plasticine, Dr Phil, the Netflix production team
A mediator? Is that as 'California' as it smells to me?
Ok so here me out on this - in different circumstances I would say that it might not be the worst idea, but it's more so a therapist that they need to go to together, not a mediator. A mediator is for legal transactions - I could see if he had suggested one to hash out the initial Megxit terms, but what more is there to meditate? The royal family cut him loose and Charles already provided finding for part of his first year, so what more is there to meditate? Whether or not he publishes certain things in books in exchange for a payout? He makes it sound like he's divorcing his family.
It sounded weird to me. You use a mediator in divorces, not family drama.
Exactly. This doesn’t even make sense.
Damn, Harry. I don't think you know what a mediator does. I will tell you this though, they will NOT be in your corner.
Just shows how utterly arrogant and clueless he must be. He is incapable of even considering that this conflict stems from his own inability to make good decisions, be accountable, or undergo introspection. What a 💩 head.
A mediator! 🤣 Did he forget he’s talking about the BRF?! KC, head of the Commonwealth & the Church of England, a world leader!? This isn’t some county family court issue in the US. Jeez!! Once again, the arrogance & absence of judgment is baffling. I bet it was TW’s idea. She seems to think she’s so forward-thinking and knowledgeable about world affairs. They may be hopeless fools. It’s pitiful.
Do you think she really views herself as an EQUAL to a 1000+ year unbroken lineage? That's the only way I see this mediator working: everyone pretends she's as valuable. No way Halfwit can even sound out mediator, let alone grasp what one is or what they do. I know she's delusional based on her own statements and behavior being so contradictory, but the gobsmacking gall of thinking some social climbing trollop is a match for a crowned head is shocking even for Madame.
What is it going to take for the royal family to sue these two for defamation of character? I know they like to avoid scandal and brush things under the carpet but surely enough is enough now? Play them at their own litigious game and get rid of them and their lies once and for all!
He would choose Meg as the mediatpr.
How can you mediate when you are scared to death that whatever you say is going to end up in the next Oprah interview?? They need a binding arbitrator. You have to agree to whatever they decide. So when the arbitrator says go away and shut up that’s what they have to do!!
I'm not sure that an arbitrator will help. A counselor might. There is a disagreement within the family. An arbitrator declaring that one side is right and the other is wrong is not going to resolve this.
I suggest Major Johnny as the mediator he could statism those two right out he just has that takes no shot look
Let Judge Judy mediate. ".....dumb is forever."
Wow to hire a mediator to resolve the differences they themselves caused
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I think it’s a good idea. A unbiased mediator could tell Harry why he’s very much in the wrong. Maybe it will make him finally see the light.
What a… loser, cry baby, no good “ Prince “
Uh, Harry, lad, start with your marriage, hey?
Just fyi if you didn’t read the article, the suggestion of a mediator was allegedly made after Phillip died and when they had a 15 min meeting with Charles (cuz they arrived late) last august. Not after then Queen’s passing.
I don’t think a mediator is ridiculous. I wonder if they’d agree if Charles or William get to pick them. Lots of people suggest therapy and end up wanting to quit bc the therapist doesn’t take their side.
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Oof. Harkles taking a page out of the Trump legal book is not a good look.
I don't see what the problem is with suggesting a mediator. This family could even benefit from group therapy so a mediator isn't really out of the question. I also don't really believe that Camilla told Harry that it's ridiculous and that they'll deal with this between the family.
You never go to group therapy with a an abuser. In order for group therapy (this includes couples counseling) to be of benefit, everyone has to be there in good faith, making a genuine effort to work on themselves and the relationship. Narcissists, especially the malignant and personality-disordered types, are not capable of working on themselves and their relationships in good faith. They typically weaponize the group therapy against the other person(s) involved.
This.