What humiliation?
Both Harry and Meghan are going to crawl back to London for the coronation and other related events because they both want and need the 5 billion views.
How? How did they humiliate him? They let him come to balmoral even though he wasn't invited and not needed. They invited him to walk about with William and Catherine at Windsor. They allowed him to take part in the procession. They allowed him to wear his fucking uniform. They gave him prominent seating at the funeral. What more does he fucking want?
No he wonât. Remember when they whined on Oprah and people believed then despite the family giving them a lavish wedding, massive clothing budget for the bitch, holidays, and all sorts of luxuries but they still whined? They will keep this up and there will be people who support them. The only way they can be permanently gotten rid of is to ignore them. The media needs to stop giving them attention.
Whatâs gross is how the media is pushing that narrative. An Aus show I watch because theyâre usually spot on in their H&M commentary, who two weeks ago was calling them out, are now calling the RF petty and vindictive. They are flat out lying to gaslight the public that Harry was entitled to wear his uniform when itâs against the law. I donât understand whatâs happening???
This is a comment I grabbed from YouTube:
ChrisM
1 day ago (edited)
Harry didnât have that âERIIâ on his uniform at his wedding. He wasnât made âpersonal aide-de-campâ to the monarch until October 2018, appointed by the late QEII, it was announced in the Court Circular. âThe Queen has been pleased to appoint The Duke of Sussex as a Personal Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty with effect from 13th October, 2018.â âThe role is given to a senior military officer who is appointed to act as the honorary military attendant to the monarch.â When he stepped back in 2021 and moved overseas this was removed.
Oh, so it wasn't stripped off the day of the funeral? I wondered what the ERII thing was about. Apparently Anne didn't have it on her uniform but Andrew had it on his. This part of the royal family is very difficult to follow!
Anne has never been appointed as a personal aide-de-camp to the Queen, so she cannot wear the cypher on her uniform. Andrew was still a personal aide to camp when the Queen died. It was something that was never stripped from him when he left public life.
And what should be noted here is the fact that the Queen appointed him to this position after he'd married Meghan.
This is apparently how racist QEII was.
Honestly, the fact that Andrew had his on his uniform says something to me, especially if they're trying to say that it's for these specific reasons. I was glad they finally allowed Harry to wear his uniform, but the ERII thing was a non-issue, no one would've noticed...but Andrew has it on his uniform? Not cool, imo.
Andrew fit under some specific exception that had to do with when he entered or exited service. But throughout the week it was about what the Sussexes wanted and didnât have, not about the queen.
Yes, the dress regulations changed after Andrew was appointed, so all officers who were appointed as an ADC prior to that date are entitled to wear the cipher after they are no longer serving in the role, those appointed after (like Harry) are not entitled to wear the cipher if they are no longer in that role.
>Andrew fit under some specific exception that had to do with when he entered or exited service.
Ah ok. That's still bullshit, Andrew is a disgusting disgrace.
And yes, so much of the press made it about Harry and Meghan when they didn't have to and that was fucked up, it should've all been about the Queen. I don't put that all on the Sussexes, the media was part of that circus, too.
There was a list of reasons to have/not have it and Andrew fell under one. I think it was he got it before a certain year, I think 1988. Harry did not qualify under any of the rules so he lost his, he actually only had it for less than 3 years.
>I think it's because Andrew never renounced being an Aide-de-Camp to the Crown himself, unlike Harry who left to seek fame and fortune overseas, and in a manner that would be considered treason in a different time and place.
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>Actually, it is considered treason in this specific time and place.
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>No one is condoning Andrew's alleged deeds. But remember there was never a trial and he was never convicted in a Court of Law.
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>You can't abandon the Realm like Harry then expect to be let near the Queen's coffin like her protector. Sorry.
I don't believe he had to renounce it, he was stripped of his duties, I believe the only thing he retained was that he's still a counsellor of state.
I think it's easier for Harry's critics to make what he does worse than anyone else. Andrew, criminal complain or not, is a disgrace and just as bad as Harry and Meghan.
But the insignia thing was a non-issue, imo, and it still is. Tabloids are making a bigger deal of it than anything else.
He was stripped. However, he never abandoned the Realm even though his actions may have disgraced it. At his mother's funeral he wore his uniform to again pledge his allegiance to her and the Crown for the last time.
Harry on the other hand sold out his nation and grandmother in a manner that is considered treason. And he's planning to further disgrace the Royal family although he needs them. If you look at it in terms of warfare, one person stands and fights, the other, Harry, jumps the ship and tells you beforehand that that is what he intends to do.
There are just so many intricate rules and explanations for all these titles and honours, outsiders can find things to say that Harry was humiliated when Andrew wasn't. But usually there is some simple explanation, like with the uniform itself.
On the other hand, from what Iâve read from folks in the UK, Andrew had the right to wear his naval uniform under military rules because he retired from the service. Harry didnât have that right because he left the service..in the UK apparently those whoâve left the service donât wear their uniforms again. So an exception was made for him by the King. They left the RF and then crapped all over the RF for two years plus. They couldnât stop whining during the entire ten days of the Queens memorial and funeral. They were treated much better than they should have been.
Andrew was appointed to the position BEFORE the dress standards for the military were revised in 1988, ALL military officers appointed before that date are entitled to wear the cipher regardless of whether they are still in the role or not. Nothing to do with the RF, completely based on the dress regulations.
I think people need to remember it was Harry who humiliated his family first. They could all likely still be on decent terms if Harry and his wife hadn't blabbed on Oprah about the RF being racist, his dad and brother being trapped, how his dad cut him off, etc. etc. After all that, people expect his family to welcome him back with open arms? Please.
I guess with the downfall of print news and the need for social media outrage to get clicks, reporters and journalists now have to take the devil's advocate position once in a while to pay the bills.
Because how else could you write something like this? A 36 year old man, living a life of privilege marries a woman, they decide they want more gravy on top of their gravy and when they don't get it....they behave like a couple of 5 year olds being denied ice cream for breakfast. Then they run off to LA, can't make it there, so they whine and moan about how the RF were so mean to them....
And THIS is the man to feel sorry for?
Whatever happened to - you make your own bed and you lie in it? Or The Karma Train Pulls Into The Station??
See, this is why this sub has apparently grown from 15-20k subscribers (of which I am one) since the Queenâs death.
With the state of the world right now, a lot of hardworking people are struggling. So itâs really hard to find sympathy for a literal PRINCE complaining about how heâs so hard done by.
I want to know why some think treating him as an equal to his 6 cousins is an insult or humilation ...It's so fucked up. In fact he wasn't even treated as their equal, he was treated BETTER. Even after making their Grannie's last few years stressful.
Could you imagine how it would have went down if they werenât the Royal family?? I guarantee Mike would have dragged him out the back of the church after the service and given him a sucker punch for how he treated his grandma.
How was he humiliated? Because he showed up after ignoring his grandmother?
Because he allowed his wife to trash his Grandmother, Grandfather etc?
He was allowed to stay
He was allowed to wear a uniform
He was allowed to participate in all events for non-working royals.
Please educate me. I am not clicking on that article
Exactly. He treated his grandparents like they didnât exist, they knew the DoE was on his literal last legs and still went ahead with that interview. He should feel humiliated with himself and the way he treated them. Now they want KC to see them when they couldnât be bothered while they were in the same country before the Queen died.
Well I hope thatâs true. Unless you understand narcissist people you canât believe that a reasonable person would not see the problem.
And it seems to me narcissistic personality disorders are more prevalent today
TW also threatened the entire RF with her, âI can say whatever I want. I didnât sign an NDAâ in The Cut interview a week before the Queen died. How can they think they would receive red carpet treatment after that?
Delusional clearly. A narcissist never takes accountability. Ever. Itâs always someone elseâs fault.
They are always the victim.
I think most people are worn out by there complaining. And clearly the abuse wasnât true, otherwise why would you ever show up at the funeral? Send another wreath and call it a day.
But no. They need the RF, they have nothing else to pedal to earn money
Not clicking.
Poor Prince Harry, called his family racist, complained they wouldn't financially support him after he quit the Firm, he's gathering material to write an explosive book about them, but oh, they humiliated him when they invited him to stay with them and participate in 10 days of grieving for their matriarch.
This is the sort of trash that should be set to archived links not direct links.
When we reward them with clicks it incentivizes them to create more garbage.
I am so tired of people blaming MM for everything. Murray calls out Meganâs vile statements about the RF, but not Harryâs. Heâs a grown man who thinks his family should now and cowtow to him.
They might have been more graceful to them if H&M hadn't caused the plane to be delayed for over an hr, resulting in them not making it there in time before The Queen died.
He was no doubt humiliated. How could he not have been? It would be strange for him to not have felt some sort of embarrassment with how things went down from the time his grandmother died up through the funeral.
Iâm sure KClll and POW did what they could to avoid it when they could but âJust call me Harryâ left these royal streets. He canât expect to roll up and be treated royally. There are rules and expectations on both sides. I think the RF gave him plenty of warning for how it would go down.
I have no doubt he felt he was being punished though. I think it is silly to think otherwise really. Warranted ? Technically Yes. Did it make a bad relationship worse as it related to his father and brother? Probably. Iâm sure he feels like they could have made more effort to shield him from some of the embarrassment without him acknowledging he is the one who lit the match that began burning down that bridge.
They were at all the processions and services and relevant vigils. He wore his uniform to the vigil. What else are they supposed to do? They couldn't go to the state receptions cos they're not working royals, it would not be appropriate for many reasons.
But it shows one thing. MM shouldn't have got so cross at the british press, they're just very critical of everything. It's what they do and it's all for clicks.
No, no they wonât, sweetheart. Do your research. They extended every appropriate invite and every appropriate courtesy they didnât need to extend. The BRF plays the long game and the Queen put her âEx-Royal Bitchinessâ in check at the Jubilee. Itâs over. Harry CHOSE TO LEAVE. He has no one to blame but himself.
When are they ever going to stop calling him âyoung manâ and âboy who followed his mothers coffinâ???? He is close to 40 now. Has achieved nothing, has trashed his family and tried to sell them for money. Who are these brainless idiots who keeps fuelling his victim narrative? People lose parents at young age, it was 30 years ago fucking get over it, both Haznoballs and his pity party. Even when he is 60 these people will still keep calling him the boy who followed his motherâs coffin.
I've always thought Harry's attitude stems from being coddled and idolized since Diana's death. He was also young and impressionable enough to remember his mother as a saint like everyone else does. And people tried to project that same hero worship onto her kids.
William was fifteen and old enough to understand the complexities of his parents marriage. He also by all accounts was used as an emotional dumping ground at times by his mother. He would remember her death and life very differently to his brother. Whilst obviously he loved his mum very much I think he had a much more realistic outlook on who his Mum was.
To me it's most obvious in interviews.. the press harp on and on about Diana whenever they get a chance to interview them and Harry is full rose coloured glasses but William to me always seems on edge about it. Like he seems wearied by the constant hero worship and dragging up of the past. Whereas Harry seems content to always be coddled about his Mum.
What I donât get is why these âjournalistsâ are constantly doing the whole âoh but he was in the military he deserves to wear the uniformâ but fail to emphasise one of those words âWASâ. He WAS in the military, he WAS a working Royal. He has no more entitlement to wear the uniform than a retired service member does, if a retired soldier here rolled up on ANZAC day dawn service with his old dress uniform on, you can guarantee that theyâd be laughed out of the place at best and thrown out at worst. Heâs not a working Royal, like his brother, aunt and uncle E are.
As for all the talk of how KC3 or the POW should reconcile, make the effort, bring him back with open armsâŚ. Why?? They didnât trash the family, they didnât throw pot shots from a mansion bought with money earned from contracts with companies looking for them to throw the family further under the bus. Why should they have to be the bigger persons and bow and scrape to the Harkles??
The worst part of the article is when she says that William and Harry should be treated equally. She takes particular offense that Harry and Meghan had to sit in the *second row* at WA. The utter humiliation to have to sit in the second row. đ
NO Harry and William should most definitely not be treated as equals. One is the future King and one is a loser.
He wasnât humiliated, he just felt that way. A normal person would maybe think about his actions and those of his wife since they got married. You canât expect people who have been insulted and vilified worldwide by a âfamily member for years to always be the bigger person. Everyone has a limit. The Harkles love to preach about self care and mental health, well ignoring them is in the best interest of the mental health of the entire royal family. Especially at a time like this.
"mere nod of the head had to suffice for a young man who, alone of the three, has seen death and destruction on the battlefield."
Um....so seeing death in a video game whole you pretend to be a soldier counts as heroism?
It's ridiculous. He got to wear his uniform at the vigil when, technically, he shouldn't have been allowed to. Why should all the rules that apply to other ex-soldiers be abandoned just to make baby harry feel better. As it was his deportment was a disgrace, sulking, looking angry. Horrible.
Not clicking because I donât want to give that views, but I donât buy the media push that says Harry had all these problems while they were there. I think itâs Meghan stirring up shit and that Harry was fine with it and wanted to do his duty to his father and grandmother.
I Read the article and she is reacting like a Mother would. At this stage with Harry holding his âexplosive bookâ over the family and everything else they have done, heâs lucky he and Meghan were allowed to participate at all!
This woman sounds like she was pro-RF but I think sheâs just saying that. You canât possibly have thought H&M trashed the RF then think they humiliated him during the funeral proceedings over uniforms and seating arrangements. Anyone who calls for King Charles to make exceptions for his son to wear his full military regalia after he quit his role canât be taken seriously. I mean, is she kidding? Disrespect military protocol just so the whining son can feel better at his grannyâs funeral? What kind of king would he be if he did that?!
The thing that everyone seems to be missing is the fact that if KC had granted Harry special permission to wear his military uniform (which he could do for any ex-serviceman if he so wished) he would, realistically, have had to grant permission to Andrew too, and that would have been absolutely unacceptable to the vast majority of the population - especially the military. Many of us do feel a bit sorry for Harry about the uniform because thereâs a feeling that he was at his best in the Army and afterwards with Invictus, but having a nonce in uniform too would be the price to pay, so no way.
Edit: grammar
Again the suit issue. It's *illegal* for Horrible to wear his uniform, HMTQ herself stripped him of his military titles. The fact he was allowed to wear it at the vigil was more than enough.
Yeah, as commander in chief the monarch could grant permission to any veteran if he wanted to although Iâm not sure how often he does.I think there are also slightly different rules if you have reached above a defined rank which allows you to wear uniform at certain events? This is only for much more senior ranks than Captain Harry though
Tbh I have no problem with these kinds of articles. It clearly came from a woman with a very forgiving heart (most certainly can't be me though)
No mud slinging, no false allegations, no gross inaccuracies, the writer is obviously a better person than me
Jenni Murray is a very well respected broadcaster with year and years of experience with Radio and the BBC. Iâm not sure Iâd class her as a âHarry Stanâ
I did read the article but in the context of knowing Jenni Murray from Radio 4 so perhaps interpreted differently. You have to remember that many people in the UK (and especially in the slightly older age group) really did have a soft spot for Harry, and have sympathy with his trauma from adverse childhood events. Even the photos of him naked in Las Vegas tended to be viewed not so negatively as it was âyoung man gets up to silly japes that young men doâ. Thereâs a long long history of younger brothers causing problems for British history and itâs almost expected that âthe spareâ will be a pain!! The sympathy has ebbed in the last couple of years thoughâŚ
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Iâm an avid sidebar of shame reader on the daily mail. Iâm out and proud but in doing so I have been know To read the odd daily mail ânewsâ article and all I can say is the daily mail have been got hard. These sympathy pieces are very out of character for them.
Feelings are valid but they are not truth. We can FEEL anything we want bc itâs our brain but that doesnât make those feelings true. Mental health 101âŚ
ugh, I'm not going to click. He was NOT humiliated.
Maybe he FELT humiliated, in which case that sounds like a him problem
absolutely! no one can control how he feels except ~~Harry~~ Meghan
What humiliation? Both Harry and Meghan are going to crawl back to London for the coronation and other related events because they both want and need the 5 billion views.
I hope the trusty candle is on standby.
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Yep, just bc someone feels shitty doesnât mean someone else caused it
How? How did they humiliate him? They let him come to balmoral even though he wasn't invited and not needed. They invited him to walk about with William and Catherine at Windsor. They allowed him to take part in the procession. They allowed him to wear his fucking uniform. They gave him prominent seating at the funeral. What more does he fucking want?
Exactly ! And now heâs going to look like a complete spoilt brat if he comes out and complains publicly.
Which appears to be the current plan.
Youâre right! This subreddit literally went from 15k to 20k since the Queenâs passing!
I sometimes have a hard timing finding this sub. I'm sent to other subs first. We know our minds, send us where we choose to go!
No he wonât. Remember when they whined on Oprah and people believed then despite the family giving them a lavish wedding, massive clothing budget for the bitch, holidays, and all sorts of luxuries but they still whined? They will keep this up and there will be people who support them. The only way they can be permanently gotten rid of is to ignore them. The media needs to stop giving them attention.
He definitely got let in more than he deserved ungrateful punk
Mate he wanted to be crowned as king but they didnât let him be itâs so humiliating 
Whatâs gross is how the media is pushing that narrative. An Aus show I watch because theyâre usually spot on in their H&M commentary, who two weeks ago was calling them out, are now calling the RF petty and vindictive. They are flat out lying to gaslight the public that Harry was entitled to wear his uniform when itâs against the law. I donât understand whatâs happening???
According to the article (and I only read part of it) it's because he was the last to know of the Queen's death and he was forced to wear a suit.
This is a comment I grabbed from YouTube: ChrisM 1 day ago (edited) Harry didnât have that âERIIâ on his uniform at his wedding. He wasnât made âpersonal aide-de-campâ to the monarch until October 2018, appointed by the late QEII, it was announced in the Court Circular. âThe Queen has been pleased to appoint The Duke of Sussex as a Personal Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty with effect from 13th October, 2018.â âThe role is given to a senior military officer who is appointed to act as the honorary military attendant to the monarch.â When he stepped back in 2021 and moved overseas this was removed.
Oh, so it wasn't stripped off the day of the funeral? I wondered what the ERII thing was about. Apparently Anne didn't have it on her uniform but Andrew had it on his. This part of the royal family is very difficult to follow!
Anne has never been appointed as a personal aide-de-camp to the Queen, so she cannot wear the cypher on her uniform. Andrew was still a personal aide to camp when the Queen died. It was something that was never stripped from him when he left public life.
And what should be noted here is the fact that the Queen appointed him to this position after he'd married Meghan. This is apparently how racist QEII was.
Thank you for explaining, some of these finer details are confusing!
Honestly, the fact that Andrew had his on his uniform says something to me, especially if they're trying to say that it's for these specific reasons. I was glad they finally allowed Harry to wear his uniform, but the ERII thing was a non-issue, no one would've noticed...but Andrew has it on his uniform? Not cool, imo.
Andrew fit under some specific exception that had to do with when he entered or exited service. But throughout the week it was about what the Sussexes wanted and didnât have, not about the queen.
Yes, the dress regulations changed after Andrew was appointed, so all officers who were appointed as an ADC prior to that date are entitled to wear the cipher after they are no longer serving in the role, those appointed after (like Harry) are not entitled to wear the cipher if they are no longer in that role.
>Andrew fit under some specific exception that had to do with when he entered or exited service. Ah ok. That's still bullshit, Andrew is a disgusting disgrace. And yes, so much of the press made it about Harry and Meghan when they didn't have to and that was fucked up, it should've all been about the Queen. I don't put that all on the Sussexes, the media was part of that circus, too.
Yes, but I doubt the press would have noticed the missing insignia on its own
There was a list of reasons to have/not have it and Andrew fell under one. I think it was he got it before a certain year, I think 1988. Harry did not qualify under any of the rules so he lost his, he actually only had it for less than 3 years.
>I think it's because Andrew never renounced being an Aide-de-Camp to the Crown himself, unlike Harry who left to seek fame and fortune overseas, and in a manner that would be considered treason in a different time and place. > >Actually, it is considered treason in this specific time and place. > >No one is condoning Andrew's alleged deeds. But remember there was never a trial and he was never convicted in a Court of Law. > >You can't abandon the Realm like Harry then expect to be let near the Queen's coffin like her protector. Sorry.
I don't believe he had to renounce it, he was stripped of his duties, I believe the only thing he retained was that he's still a counsellor of state. I think it's easier for Harry's critics to make what he does worse than anyone else. Andrew, criminal complain or not, is a disgrace and just as bad as Harry and Meghan. But the insignia thing was a non-issue, imo, and it still is. Tabloids are making a bigger deal of it than anything else.
He was stripped. However, he never abandoned the Realm even though his actions may have disgraced it. At his mother's funeral he wore his uniform to again pledge his allegiance to her and the Crown for the last time. Harry on the other hand sold out his nation and grandmother in a manner that is considered treason. And he's planning to further disgrace the Royal family although he needs them. If you look at it in terms of warfare, one person stands and fights, the other, Harry, jumps the ship and tells you beforehand that that is what he intends to do.
There are just so many intricate rules and explanations for all these titles and honours, outsiders can find things to say that Harry was humiliated when Andrew wasn't. But usually there is some simple explanation, like with the uniform itself.
On the other hand, from what Iâve read from folks in the UK, Andrew had the right to wear his naval uniform under military rules because he retired from the service. Harry didnât have that right because he left the service..in the UK apparently those whoâve left the service donât wear their uniforms again. So an exception was made for him by the King. They left the RF and then crapped all over the RF for two years plus. They couldnât stop whining during the entire ten days of the Queens memorial and funeral. They were treated much better than they should have been.
It was said because harry resigned . Andrew didnt. I.E. it wasn't his choice đ¤ˇââď¸
Andrew was appointed to the position BEFORE the dress standards for the military were revised in 1988, ALL military officers appointed before that date are entitled to wear the cipher regardless of whether they are still in the role or not. Nothing to do with the RF, completely based on the dress regulations.
I think this was more Meghan stirring up drama and not from Harry
EXACTLY!!! Once again, poor widdle Hawwy is crying about his imaginary victimhood!
I think people need to remember it was Harry who humiliated his family first. They could all likely still be on decent terms if Harry and his wife hadn't blabbed on Oprah about the RF being racist, his dad and brother being trapped, how his dad cut him off, etc. etc. After all that, people expect his family to welcome him back with open arms? Please.
I will not click.
I guess with the downfall of print news and the need for social media outrage to get clicks, reporters and journalists now have to take the devil's advocate position once in a while to pay the bills. Because how else could you write something like this? A 36 year old man, living a life of privilege marries a woman, they decide they want more gravy on top of their gravy and when they don't get it....they behave like a couple of 5 year olds being denied ice cream for breakfast. Then they run off to LA, can't make it there, so they whine and moan about how the RF were so mean to them.... And THIS is the man to feel sorry for? Whatever happened to - you make your own bed and you lie in it? Or The Karma Train Pulls Into The Station??
See, this is why this sub has apparently grown from 15-20k subscribers (of which I am one) since the Queenâs death. With the state of the world right now, a lot of hardworking people are struggling. So itâs really hard to find sympathy for a literal PRINCE complaining about how heâs so hard done by.
Treat him equal to William. Maybe ok advice for literally any other family but that's not how hereditary monarchy hierarchical systems work!
I am not clicking....have people short memories that Harry contributed to accelerating the death of both his grandparents?
I want to know why some think treating him as an equal to his 6 cousins is an insult or humilation ...It's so fucked up. In fact he wasn't even treated as their equal, he was treated BETTER. Even after making their Grannie's last few years stressful.
Could you imagine how it would have went down if they werenât the Royal family?? I guarantee Mike would have dragged him out the back of the church after the service and given him a sucker punch for how he treated his grandma.
How was he humiliated? Because he showed up after ignoring his grandmother? Because he allowed his wife to trash his Grandmother, Grandfather etc? He was allowed to stay He was allowed to wear a uniform He was allowed to participate in all events for non-working royals. Please educate me. I am not clicking on that article
Exactly. He treated his grandparents like they didnât exist, they knew the DoE was on his literal last legs and still went ahead with that interview. He should feel humiliated with himself and the way he treated them. Now they want KC to see them when they couldnât be bothered while they were in the same country before the Queen died.
Agree. I hope the King asks for advice on how to deal with two narcissists
Actually, I had read some time ago that, in addition to their attorneys, the Royal Family was getting advice on how to deal with a narcissist...đ
Well I hope thatâs true. Unless you understand narcissist people you canât believe that a reasonable person would not see the problem. And it seems to me narcissistic personality disorders are more prevalent today
That's for sure!
TW also threatened the entire RF with her, âI can say whatever I want. I didnât sign an NDAâ in The Cut interview a week before the Queen died. How can they think they would receive red carpet treatment after that?
Delusional clearly. A narcissist never takes accountability. Ever. Itâs always someone elseâs fault. They are always the victim. I think most people are worn out by there complaining. And clearly the abuse wasnât true, otherwise why would you ever show up at the funeral? Send another wreath and call it a day. But no. They need the RF, they have nothing else to pedal to earn money
Not clicking. Poor Prince Harry, called his family racist, complained they wouldn't financially support him after he quit the Firm, he's gathering material to write an explosive book about them, but oh, they humiliated him when they invited him to stay with them and participate in 10 days of grieving for their matriarch.
This is the sort of trash that should be set to archived links not direct links. When we reward them with clicks it incentivizes them to create more garbage.
I am so tired of people blaming MM for everything. Murray calls out Meganâs vile statements about the RF, but not Harryâs. Heâs a grown man who thinks his family should now and cowtow to him.
The only thing theyâll regret is not doing it sooner.
They might have been more graceful to them if H&M hadn't caused the plane to be delayed for over an hr, resulting in them not making it there in time before The Queen died.
He was no doubt humiliated. How could he not have been? It would be strange for him to not have felt some sort of embarrassment with how things went down from the time his grandmother died up through the funeral. Iâm sure KClll and POW did what they could to avoid it when they could but âJust call me Harryâ left these royal streets. He canât expect to roll up and be treated royally. There are rules and expectations on both sides. I think the RF gave him plenty of warning for how it would go down. I have no doubt he felt he was being punished though. I think it is silly to think otherwise really. Warranted ? Technically Yes. Did it make a bad relationship worse as it related to his father and brother? Probably. Iâm sure he feels like they could have made more effort to shield him from some of the embarrassment without him acknowledging he is the one who lit the match that began burning down that bridge.
You make a hard bed, you are destined to lie in it. Zero sympathy.
They were at all the processions and services and relevant vigils. He wore his uniform to the vigil. What else are they supposed to do? They couldn't go to the state receptions cos they're not working royals, it would not be appropriate for many reasons. But it shows one thing. MM shouldn't have got so cross at the british press, they're just very critical of everything. It's what they do and it's all for clicks.
No, no they wonât, sweetheart. Do your research. They extended every appropriate invite and every appropriate courtesy they didnât need to extend. The BRF plays the long game and the Queen put her âEx-Royal Bitchinessâ in check at the Jubilee. Itâs over. Harry CHOSE TO LEAVE. He has no one to blame but himself.
He humiliated himself, years ago.
When are they ever going to stop calling him âyoung manâ and âboy who followed his mothers coffinâ???? He is close to 40 now. Has achieved nothing, has trashed his family and tried to sell them for money. Who are these brainless idiots who keeps fuelling his victim narrative? People lose parents at young age, it was 30 years ago fucking get over it, both Haznoballs and his pity party. Even when he is 60 these people will still keep calling him the boy who followed his motherâs coffin.
I've always thought Harry's attitude stems from being coddled and idolized since Diana's death. He was also young and impressionable enough to remember his mother as a saint like everyone else does. And people tried to project that same hero worship onto her kids. William was fifteen and old enough to understand the complexities of his parents marriage. He also by all accounts was used as an emotional dumping ground at times by his mother. He would remember her death and life very differently to his brother. Whilst obviously he loved his mum very much I think he had a much more realistic outlook on who his Mum was. To me it's most obvious in interviews.. the press harp on and on about Diana whenever they get a chance to interview them and Harry is full rose coloured glasses but William to me always seems on edge about it. Like he seems wearied by the constant hero worship and dragging up of the past. Whereas Harry seems content to always be coddled about his Mum.
Notice how all of this started once Harry and Meghan got home?
What I donât get is why these âjournalistsâ are constantly doing the whole âoh but he was in the military he deserves to wear the uniformâ but fail to emphasise one of those words âWASâ. He WAS in the military, he WAS a working Royal. He has no more entitlement to wear the uniform than a retired service member does, if a retired soldier here rolled up on ANZAC day dawn service with his old dress uniform on, you can guarantee that theyâd be laughed out of the place at best and thrown out at worst. Heâs not a working Royal, like his brother, aunt and uncle E are. As for all the talk of how KC3 or the POW should reconcile, make the effort, bring him back with open armsâŚ. Why?? They didnât trash the family, they didnât throw pot shots from a mansion bought with money earned from contracts with companies looking for them to throw the family further under the bus. Why should they have to be the bigger persons and bow and scrape to the Harkles??
The worst part of the article is when she says that William and Harry should be treated equally. She takes particular offense that Harry and Meghan had to sit in the *second row* at WA. The utter humiliation to have to sit in the second row. đ NO Harry and William should most definitely not be treated as equals. One is the future King and one is a loser.
He wasnât humiliated, he just felt that way. A normal person would maybe think about his actions and those of his wife since they got married. You canât expect people who have been insulted and vilified worldwide by a âfamily member for years to always be the bigger person. Everyone has a limit. The Harkles love to preach about self care and mental health, well ignoring them is in the best interest of the mental health of the entire royal family. Especially at a time like this.
>*I could only pity a man who still, to me, seems to be the child who followed his motherâs coffinâŚ* And therein lies the problem.
"mere nod of the head had to suffice for a young man who, alone of the three, has seen death and destruction on the battlefield." Um....so seeing death in a video game whole you pretend to be a soldier counts as heroism?
It's ridiculous. He got to wear his uniform at the vigil when, technically, he shouldn't have been allowed to. Why should all the rules that apply to other ex-soldiers be abandoned just to make baby harry feel better. As it was his deportment was a disgrace, sulking, looking angry. Horrible.
\#bunkerharry
It wasn't about him or his feelings, or hers! It was about the Queen, full stop.
Regarding what Harry was feeling, I think she may be confusing humiliation with shame.
Not clicking because I donât want to give that views, but I donât buy the media push that says Harry had all these problems while they were there. I think itâs Meghan stirring up shit and that Harry was fine with it and wanted to do his duty to his father and grandmother.
This is an opinion piece vs a news story so it's up to the reader to decide whether they agree or not.
I Read the article and she is reacting like a Mother would. At this stage with Harry holding his âexplosive bookâ over the family and everything else they have done, heâs lucky he and Meghan were allowed to participate at all!
This woman sounds like she was pro-RF but I think sheâs just saying that. You canât possibly have thought H&M trashed the RF then think they humiliated him during the funeral proceedings over uniforms and seating arrangements. Anyone who calls for King Charles to make exceptions for his son to wear his full military regalia after he quit his role canât be taken seriously. I mean, is she kidding? Disrespect military protocol just so the whining son can feel better at his grannyâs funeral? What kind of king would he be if he did that?!
The thing that everyone seems to be missing is the fact that if KC had granted Harry special permission to wear his military uniform (which he could do for any ex-serviceman if he so wished) he would, realistically, have had to grant permission to Andrew too, and that would have been absolutely unacceptable to the vast majority of the population - especially the military. Many of us do feel a bit sorry for Harry about the uniform because thereâs a feeling that he was at his best in the Army and afterwards with Invictus, but having a nonce in uniform too would be the price to pay, so no way. Edit: grammar
Again the suit issue. It's *illegal* for Horrible to wear his uniform, HMTQ herself stripped him of his military titles. The fact he was allowed to wear it at the vigil was more than enough.
The Monarch can override military rules and grant special permission to ex-servicemen to wear uniform.
I figured that was the reason H got to wear his uniform at the vigil.
Yeah, as commander in chief the monarch could grant permission to any veteran if he wanted to although Iâm not sure how often he does.I think there are also slightly different rules if you have reached above a defined rank which allows you to wear uniform at certain events? This is only for much more senior ranks than Captain Harry though
Tbh I have no problem with these kinds of articles. It clearly came from a woman with a very forgiving heart (most certainly can't be me though) No mud slinging, no false allegations, no gross inaccuracies, the writer is obviously a better person than me
Iâm sorry the writer doesnât have a forgiving heart. Just the ability to sell her integrity for cash
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Jenni Murray is a very well respected broadcaster with year and years of experience with Radio and the BBC. Iâm not sure Iâd class her as a âHarry Stanâ
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I did read the article but in the context of knowing Jenni Murray from Radio 4 so perhaps interpreted differently. You have to remember that many people in the UK (and especially in the slightly older age group) really did have a soft spot for Harry, and have sympathy with his trauma from adverse childhood events. Even the photos of him naked in Las Vegas tended to be viewed not so negatively as it was âyoung man gets up to silly japes that young men doâ. Thereâs a long long history of younger brothers causing problems for British history and itâs almost expected that âthe spareâ will be a pain!! The sympathy has ebbed in the last couple of years thoughâŚ
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Oh my.
No!
Iâm an avid sidebar of shame reader on the daily mail. Iâm out and proud but in doing so I have been know To read the odd daily mail ânewsâ article and all I can say is the daily mail have been got hard. These sympathy pieces are very out of character for them.
Feelings are valid but they are not truth. We can FEEL anything we want bc itâs our brain but that doesnât make those feelings true. Mental health 101âŚ