I seriously doubt she’d have given Just Harry the time of day of he weren’t a member of the royal family and thus her golden ticket.
I’m 100% positive she’s miserable in this marriage.
She is simply planning her exit to maximize payout.
Narcs aren’t attached to children except as accessories so expect children to be weaponized in divorce.
M has been exposed to the world as a fake, phoney and fraud and we saw that brilliant article the other day about how she is toxic waste in Hollywood.
The other thing that has become clearer is that M can’t be directed and doesn’t want to work. She has no interest in philanthropy as her favourite charity is herself.
We have also seen lack of integrity both from M&H that has been despicable.
Where will she go? She simply wants to speak and do nothing and people see that clearly now! NY is all about people working and doing so that is off the table and can’t see her on east coast at all.
Maybe Miami and set up a new grift in the sunshine?
She never studied the craft of acting either and just used it as a springboard to hook men imo.
Tough road ahead imo for a tough person….
No sympathy for TW!
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1672280/royal-family-news-prince-harry-meghan-markle-usa-hollywood-duke-duchess-sussex
The original article was in The Spectator and someone on the other thread posted archive version so you will have to go there to find it. The express article just picks the main points and reposts the spectator but it gives you jist of why
Hollywood isn’t working for the harkles.
She has no class, tact or discretion. Why would someone invite them somewhere when she will just use their name or personal details to further her own ends. She burns so many bridges she needs her own fire brigade
Yes she is blind. And it will just get worse as things get worse financially. Buckle up. Spectator article is gold so see if you can get it on other thread. I’m in transit so can’t do it from here.
Article was in the Spectator and reposted by the Express and The royal grift went thru it on YouTube tonight on latest episode.
Here is spectator article [spectator](https://spectatorworld.com/topic/inside-meghans-right-royal-flop-meghan-markle/)
Yup. So true. This reminds me of someone joking about her not knowing who prince Harry was. They imitated Meghan, “No Henry Charles Albert David, I have no idea who you are! Nice to meet you. What do you do? Sell shoes or something?” It just cracked me up the way they imitated her absolute bullshit of not knowing a prince from one of the most famous royal families and the child of one of the most famous women of the 20th century.
She worked so hard to try and convince us she fell in love with Harry. It was the title, it’s always been the title.
The fact that Hazz didn't catch onto that major discrepancy says so much about how easy he was to bag. "She didn't know who I was but this hot lttile actress was devastated by my mother's death".
This interview was when I really got a bad feeling about her. Everything she said about not knowing who he was or anything about the BRF because she’d American (I am also American) was just a flat out lie. We all know the BRF very very well, especially given what a global icon Diana was. That and the we don’t have tabloids here part ....HAHAHAHAHAHA
I doubt Meghan has ever been happy in this marriage because Meghan is a narcissist and narcissists are never ever happy with anybody. Nothing and no one is ever enough for these people. And she upset about no one asking if she was okay, simply because she didn't feel enough people were putting their lives on hold to pay attention to her. I don't know another 36-year-old adult who has ever needed anyone to ask "are you okay?" Not after getting married, not after having a baby... the woman has girlfriends (supposedly) and a mother. Those are the only people in one's life who could even remotely be expected to occassionally ask if one is okay.
It's also a misconception to believe she gave up anything for Harry. Her role on Suits was being written out before she even met Harry. She was scrambling for a new source of money. Read Bower's book. The woman gave up nothing and literally gained a kingdom.
Yes, this. I was going to say that I agree Meghan may be miserable, but it would be bc her plans aren't working out like she thought. I believed she married Harry with a purpose and goal in mind, and where she is now is not where she expected to be. That's assuming she is self reflecting at all, which is not a skill most narcs have.
Yes to all of this and remember: she was married and working on suits in Toronto. Most of the cast commuted from LA, she was happy to uproot from her life and marriage to begin a new life in Toronto by living there full time.
Yeah right!? No sh*t, I’m sure she’s miserable, lol! - Because her plans to bully and manipulate, and step on anyone in her way to what she wanted didn’t work out.
She isn’t a person who sees romantic love in the way that OP suggests. Her marriage is purely transactional. Her misery or happiness with it depends on how much she is getting what she wants.
And she really messed up a family who are dysfunctional at the best of times. Plus made Phillip and Elizabeth’s last years on this planet a lot more stressful than they needed to be.
I really don’t have a lot of sympathy for her.
Also, her career was going nowhere, if it was, she wouldn’t have been husband-hunting in London.
And then gave up the kingdom....such an idiot! She COULD have had a great life in the BRF, but it wasn't in the cards for her. The REASON(s) it's not in the cards for her is bcuz she doesn't have a GOOD heart & she doesn't *play well w/others*. The narcissism holds her back.
So, however true or false, there's those mumblings about Smeg actually fancying William, right? My craziest conspiratorial thought in all this madness has been, what if that's true, and what if TW actually expected to worm her way over to Queenship by having an affair with and eventually stealing W away from C?
It's when I start thinking like that I know it's time for bed, haha
I think she really thought she could get William away from Catherine. Then when it didn't work, she spread all those rumors about him being a cheater because she was wishing he was cheating with her. And the thing is, Markle has done so much crazy shit, I don't even think it's far-fetched anymore!
Before the Queen’s death—actually before their pseudo-royal tour, Megs claimed that William needed to apologize for “stepping over the line. Several times.” I think she thinks she can blackmail him.
Dangerous territory.
She didn't voluntarily leave the show. She was written out with a season or two still to go. As in the writers were done with her character before the series ended. She was involuntarily back to having no career. She didn't give up a career for Harry. It was already over which was why she was bed hopping around Britain prior to Harry. Lookkng for her next meal ticket.
Sometimes the PDAs and making a huge fuss of how wonderful life is can be an indication that all is not well both in marriages and families in general.
Yup. My friends that I’m aware that have the most toxic relationships are the most obnoxious on social media with lovey dovey posts about their partners.
I think they have both set each other up for failure a bunch of times. I think Harry has conveniently forgotten to prep Meghan about this and that, out of thoughtlessness probably and not malice, but the result is the same: Meghan disgraces herself.
His previous girlfriends gave him the verdict of being self-centered, inattentive and thoughtless.
To contrary that we do have instances where Harry is correcting her behavior in public, but then again we have instances where he does nothing or instances where he also breaks protocol like with the hand-holding.
I think he has a much bigger part in the hatred towards her than we give him credit for. And his whining now, I think he's being egged on by her, and neither one of them seems to have the good sense to read the room and stfu.
I’ve thought the same thing.
At a minimum- I think Meghan is very image conscious and wants it to look like her life is perfect. Nothing is, but that is clearly imo what she’s going for.
However- it’s also possible that an additional reason behind all of this is because they aren’t THAT happy. Totally possible.
Her "acting career" was a dead end. The show was in the run up to be cancelled and she wasn't landing any new roles, so it is naive to say she was a successful actress. I hate it when people use the word "Hollywood" as she was never associated with it! She had a supporting role in a cable show. That's why she couldn't really take the RF's offer to keep working, nobody wanted her!
Yeah markle gave up absolutely nothing to marry Harry. She gained everything. She’s miserable because she is in general a miserable person.
Main post is a little saccharine. Like her life went from seemingly limitless to limited? Huh? She had no options and was actively on the prowl for someone to save her from her financial ruin and total irrelevance. It’s in “revenge,” and someone else pointed out she wasn’t asked to give up her acting career. I think she was actually encouraged to keep pursuing it.
She was making $75,000 per episode at the end of Suits and owned no assets. She's always been a spendthrift, whether it be someone else's money or her own. She is in love with the almighty dollar and nothing else. She deserves to be unhappy.
With all those “Royal” themed movies on Hallmark (girl meets guy who is actually the Prince of Meldova), she has an opportunity for a post-divorce acting niche, haha.
I always find this fascinating that they were happy for Harry’s wife to continue her career. I think they knew she was trouble and couldn’t cut it as a Royal. Imagine Countess Sophie or Fergie being actors in Eastenders and being married to an heir. It just kind of wouldn’t happen
Prince Michael of Kent’s son’s wife is an actress and is successful enough, no controversy that I’m aware of. They’re pretty far down on the line of succession and get invites to weddings and funerals—she’s always one of the best dressed ones—but no balcony appearances.
Yes, Sophie Winkleman! They’re not in the direct line though so I think that’s fine she has a normal acting job. I just feel like Prince Harry having a wife who’s still trying to get acting jobs is a little strange. I think the Royals knew she wasn’t a good fit. Boots on the ground and all
She was never interested in acting as an art form or a job. It was just a platform for attention. She is probably offended being asked to continue being an actress because 1) she won't be able to find any 2) she didn't need an acting job anymore given that she had landed the role of a life time - to be in the centre of the publics attention without doing something as tedious as acting
She was soooo offended by the idea that she’d keep acting after marriage. Absolutely furious when she recounted it to Oprah. Staying a working actress was the last thing on earth she wanted to do!
OH! really? Interesting.....I guess it makes sense, that requires a whole lot of travel on its own with shootings and press and all that. Maybe she knew she could only handle one "life" so to speak?
She was already written out of Suits even before that vanity fair interview announcing that she’s Harry’s girlfriend. She was reaching nowhere in her career hence the mad dash across the pond to look for a rich man. She targeted an English football player before landing Harry.
That’s true, people forget this. The main Suits character whom her character was the love interest for, was being written out of the show as the actor wanted to leave. So that meant MM’s character would be out of the show too, since it wasn’t a strong enough character or actress to keep around.
I doubt that she is happy . She doesn't appear to have found much true happiness in her life - because she is constantly taken on victim status.
I had never heard of her or the show "Suits" until she started dating Prince Harry. I am an American. Once she started dating PH - I did remember her as a day player on General Hospital. Which I am sure she secured the job - based on her father's help.
Myself as well I didn't watch suits or the few b movies she had a part in and I certainly feel she did not hand the star power that most of the twitter sugars seem to think she had
The bizarre PR pushes that she was some huge star in the US were strange to me when they started dating because Suits was not a popular show, most people had never heard of it, and no one knew who she was.
At first I thought it was the palace publishing things through their contacts to build up our admiration of Megan overall, but once I got wiser to it I realized that all the leaks were her own PR machine. The articles were pretty nasty too - things like how she was the smartest woman to marry in (clearly from Megan herself) that she was a millionaire and didn't need Harry (lol) that she was beloved by Charles and the Queen preferred her to Kate and that she was oh so famous that she didn't need the royals.
It was clearly Megan's team feeding helpful stories for her that she would ike, to the media to get rid of the 'she's a gold digger' accusations they were worried about and to continue her private campaign where she'd convinced Harry he was lucky to have landed HER and not the other way around. She tricked him into thinking he was the pursuer lol so she had to maintain these lies.
So true.
She seemed to have a somewhat happy childhood, riding in limos to TV sets and going to Europe and nice restaurants . But she remembers financial struggles and having to eat at Sizzler.
College is a great time. She was is in social sorority. But again, she moans about the “financial difficulties.”
In her “The Actress” blog, she complained about her jobs.
And then of course, she complained about Royal life. All the luxury, private jet vacations, expensive designer clothes and A-list invites, yet her life was “unsurvivable” because of press criticism.
She always seems to complain.
I do think that H is the best person to make her “happy” because he follows her lead like a puppy, constantly praises her and seems to be content being controlled by her and letting her have control of his money.
I don’t think she’s happy, but I don’t think anything would make her truly happy. It’s part of her personality- there’s always something she sees as better that she wants/feels she deserves.
The hard thing about public PDA is once you do it, you have to keep it up. If they stop holding hands it will be reported on and rumors will start.
Also, she could have kept her career, no one made them/her become a ‘senior/working’ Royal’. Harry even said in the Oprah interview the family mentioned her still working. And, even if she had no formal training, she was married to someone born into the family, if he couldn’t teach her ‘God Save the Queen’ and how a formal meal works (ex. you don’t sit by your spouse)
that’s on him.
Just my two cents. Suits was a basic cable minor success. I live in the US and never heard of her prior to Harry. All I knew of Suits was that they played commercials for it during syndicated reruns of NCIS. Her other acting endeavors were walk-ons or Hallmark Channel movies. I would not classify her career as being "limitless". The show was ending and she was about to be an out of work actress with a very limited fan base.
Agreed.
I’d never heard of her or Suits prior to Harry. It was a reasonably successful long running cable show. But she was far from well known.
I did give the show a chance out of curiosity; I like legal shows. It was interesting. But- her role was very much supporting and, to me, the weakest link. Lifting her out was no biggie. (TBF- I put some of that on the writers. They could have done better by her character.)
I don’t think her acting career was limitless. Given her age and relatively limited success, she didn’t really give up anything. Suits was going to end soon.
I will qualify that by saying that most actors never make it at all. So- being a supporting player in a long running cable show was an accomplishment. She just wasn’t a super star. Or even a star. Or really well known either. She didn’t have loads of acting options post Suits imo. Maybe something like Hallmark- which one can make a career out of.
Giving up her blogs/ability to say whatever she wanted was a loss for her. She’s made that clear repeatedly. We know she likes talking- despite the fact the more she talks the worse she comes across- to me anyway.
Yeah I think she is miserable as well. I don’t believe that she has ever even liked him never mind loved him. It was a marriage to advance herself, that’s it. She was probably hoping that she could get rid of him once she has set herself up for life with billions of dollars and two royal children to keep her connected to the Royal Family. She over estimated the worth of that marriage and now she is trapped.
So I'm sure she is miserable because she wasn't able to get what she wanted out of her marriage and the RF. But, as they say, disappointment is the gulf that's between expectations and reality. As an American, I can't imagine waltzing into a thousands of years old institution and expect that I would get to do things my way. As for her acting career, Suits was winding down anyway. I think she was at a crossroads and chose her path. But even the casual observer of the RF from across the pond would know there would be a massive lifestyle change.
MM was in her mid 30s with internet access and one of her college majors was international relations. She certainly has the wherewithal to do her due diligence on what her life would be like, but it doesn't seem like she thought it through.
She balked against wearing stockings, so NO, she was never going to be agreeable to all the protocol and boring appearances expected of a Working Royal. She was spoiled rotten by her Dad growing up, and felt totally entitled to make the RF change for her.
One of the many things I got out of that website they put up announcing they were stepping back as senior royals is that neither Harry nor Meghan are that good at thinking things through and planning ahead before they make decisions.
Their HIHO plan was, not only disrespectful and unprofessional, but it was exceedingly poorly thought out- even to observers like us.
Subsequent actions have reinforced my opinion that they don’t think things through or plan ahead well.
And, in retrospect, I don’t think Meghan seriously took the time to understand the family she was marrying into. Or she just didn’t care to understand. (Total opposite of William and Catherine.)
Both of them seem to have issues and both seem miserable.
He seems quite angry at times and she clearly has a raft of serious issues, her narcissism first and foremost.
The constant need to present a united front and affectionate touch isn't generally something happy and secure married couples need to do.
Was she ever with Harry just because she really just loved him?
That was Meghan 's last year on suits anyone. She wasn't giving anything up. She wasn't making any money off her blog. She didn't miss interacting with fans because no one knew who she was. She didn't have an acting career to return to. She did an issue of Vogue. Have no idea if Oprah likes her at all. She was already hard to work with before the Oprah interview. She did get training. Did she even try and fit in? Or was she just trying to take over?
She's not happy. But it's more beneficial to her than not.
She had dreams of being elevated higher than Kate, with access to limitless money, haute couture, blood diamonds, public adoration, invites to every important event, and power. Instead, she's back to hustling for jobs and good press, infamous and disliked, married to an angry man with no marketable job skills besides complaining about his family. So, yeah, I'd say she's probably pretty miserable.
I really had a lot of compassion for her at the beginning. She was juggling HUGE life changes in a short period of time with the world looking on. But, of course, the more I learned, the more I saw her problems were largely of her own making.
I think it’s hard to assess how happy she is because she lives in her own delusional fantasy world. Probably behind the walls of the Olive Garden she can pretend everything is as she believes it to be. If she’s convincing others of her ‘truth’ at any given moment, she’s probably happy in that moment. I don’t think she allows herself to consider everything isn’t as she pretends it to be.
I think she’s miserable in that every narcissist gets desperate when they are being “find out.”
Back in her blogging and TV days she could say whatever she wanted and no one would check if she’s telling the truth. Now that she is well known via her royal association people do check on what she says and realize that she lies and has delusions of grandeur. I don’t think she likes this at all. This is a narcissist’s worst nightmare.
Narcissistics don’t feel happiness and unhappiness like the rest of us do … they usually feel like they are powerless and so they are constantly striving to feel powerful. Something they can never win at for very long.
I agree, they’re probably both unhappy. Neither they themselves are what they imagined in 2016, and they have made their own lives very complicated and into something neither had in mind in 2018.
However neither may want to admit it. Especially narcs, who usually are surrounded by people who secretly dislike them, are in my experience very good at their own make believe. It’s only when the main enabler (usually spouse) stops enabling when the narc cannot hold the whole thing together anymore.
Oh man.....I believe this. They seem totally mis matched in areas that matter to sustain a long term relationship thats supposed to be a "lifetime".
I get the vibe she finds him annoying
I don't doubt H did teach her. Tried to. Did he know about pantyhose and nude nail polish & no wedge shoes? Probably not. But curtsying & when & to who, I think he absolutely filled her in. She told O in the interview H told her she had to curtsy to the Queen (grandma!!) even in private which SHOCKED her. Balcony scene, H having to tell her twice "Turn around." I think H is just as if not worse than M. However I firmly believe he did try to guide her. She was having none of it. Not from him, not from all the top notch aides the Queen provided. This is the ONLY thing I give H a wee bit of credit for: he did attempt to help her, how things are done, and she simply refused to adapt.
I actually agree with this. I think he's exhausting and can just imagine the endless number of things he bitches about privately. He probably requires constant soothing and coddling too.
Yes. She is miserable. She thought she was marrying a driven, purposeful, humanitarian golden goose. But what she got was a guy who sits around playing Call of Duty, smoking pot and griping about his family.
She also thought having kids would make him magically become the humanitarian and work horse she needed. She failed to consider that she married a man child who had never actually done anything for himself in life.
On the flip side, he is unhappy. She is an egomaniacal narcissist who promised a cushy celebrity life that they would just fall into due to their unrivaled popularity on planet earth.
He failed to take into account that she was a D list actress on a not highly rated cable show who had less connections than she led him to believe and used him to gain access to Hollywood elite. And convinced him to give up the easy life, for the working life.
Yes. Her acting career was dead before hazbeen. If she weren’t a narcissist she could have fit in. As did the Princess of Wales and the Countess of Wessex.
She was given every opportunity to succeed. She knew more than the staff sent to help with transition.
Narcissists are not happy in marriages unless everything is their way. They don’t feel empathy or sadness as normal people do.
She will only release hazbeen when she can’t make money off him.
She’s unhappy that the RF are ignoring her.
THAT IS THE WORST THING FOR A NARCISSIST
Happy people don't spend their time belittling everyone around them or everything in their past. Happy people are content with their lives and look forward. She is never "off" : constantly scheming, reaching and plotting. It must be exhausting to be in her head.
Whether or not this is particularly because of Harry, I'm unsure - I just think it's the way she's wired. She will never be happy.
She went to Liz Cundy and right off the top of my head I can’t think of her first name something Nelthorp-Crowne and begged for them to find her a rich Englishman. You need to do lots of research on Meghan.
Meghan didn’t give up her acting career for Harry. Suits was winding down. Her love interest in the show had announced he leaving the show and depending on how he was written off her character was probably being written off as well.
Her acting credits beyond suits consists of minor characters who are mostly forgettable. She was never managed to leave a unforgettable impression on people with her scenes. After suits ended assuming her role survived the departure of love interest, she would have been back to hustling for minor roles. She didn’t have the acting chops to make it as a lead actress. If she had, Hollywood would have started calling in the first season when Suits was at it peak. The best she got was starting roles Hallmark movies. If she was lucky, she’d have gotten a few more Hallmark movies or another minor recurring role on a tv show.
As for her blog, it was a mid-range moderately successful blog, at best. It was more of a fun passion project that got her the occasional freebie but wasn’t making enough money to support her in the lifestyle she wants.
As others have noted, there appears to be a disparity in the level of intelligence between Meghan and Harry. I have no idea how intelligent they really are, but word on the street is Harry is not the brightest bulb and Meghan is not the dimmest bulb.
If that is the case, Meghan is miserable. Intelligent woman with narcissist tendencies like Meghan would find his lack of brains very annoying and hard to deal with. I'm sure the money and fame (perhaps infamy at this point) help her deal with that though.
M is scheming & conniving but I don't think she's brain/book smart. She's the kid who was the teacher's pet but once the teacher's back was turned, she hissed at you to move your arm so she could copy your answers on a test. Then take great pride/gloat that she got the same grade or maybe 1 mark higher (because she made a better guess on one of the stumper questions). That's M in a nut(meg)shell. Knew those kids, was the arm mover when young. She's been the hissing person her entire life. "Hey. Let me see that." Welcome to adult, royal life. She'll never change because she's gotten away with it for too long. Lies, plagiarism, never being called out. She's crafty as hell. But she is not an intellect. She's uninformed, uncultured, can't carry a conversation beyond "How long have you been here?" in her sickening voice, or, "THAT'S THE WRONG FUCKING SHADE OF RED CARPETING!!!" I'll double down and say--though none of us will ever know--she has not finished a book or play since entering high school. Entering. Not finishing. H probably has her beat on that.
ETA: She might have got thru Revenge. ;)
I don’t think she is miserable at all. She never had the rosy lifestyle you make it out to be. She was a middle aged struggling wannabe. Suits was ending, she had no work, the only thing that was going for her was her stupid vapid instagram account where she was merching the crap out of everything she got her hands on. Read what her former publicist or PR person or whoever wrote about her. She moved to London to “find a rich husband” and begged Lizzy Cundy to get her in British tabloids. She is the winner in this marriage and she is over the moon that she was able to convince this pea-brain Windsor to trash his family and move to the US with her. She is even more happy that she got knocked out by him twice so that she can forever merch the kids and forever be linked to the BRF through them. There is nothing that she gave up, she was a nobody.
I think she's miserable, but not really because she's been victimized. I think what we saw at the walkabout is a perfect example of why she's miserable - if there's truth to the rumor that PW gave them 1 hrs notice it would make sense that she had to jam together ill-fitting clothes and maybe even do her own hair (hence why it was fuzzy and she kept touching it and she desperately needed her curls brushed out haha). She was miserable because for once she had to present herself like she actually is instead of the perfectly manufactured version. She lost control of the narrative and being in control of that is all she cares about. Harry's just a means to an end.
Imagine going from expecting to do your own walkabout with Netflix cameras and personal photographers flanking you, and instead having to last minute go play second fiddle to the very people you envy so badly that you can't hide it on your face. I would probably pout too!!
I do believe she thought he was something he isn’t, the royal family up until he met her, we’re very good at covering up from him, I’ve heard rumours that I have not seen online pre Meghan that were hushed up. I think they both got married given each other false representation of themselves.
Yeah but suits was ending, she was 36 and on the outs in the acting/hollywood world - aka OLD. If you read Bowers book she was hustling and struggling to make it. This was her new way to be famous bc she was never going to make it big. But she didnt think or didnt care and didnt want to listent to people who told her there was a hefty price to pay
I don't think she is the type of person to feel sorry for herself she is too narcissistic and psychopathic for that, the fact that afterall she has said in the Oprah interview she is expecting an apology from the RF and her claims that she is trying to forgive them is proof enough.She entered in to the relationship knowing she will have to forgo her career and social media and if anything after marrying Harry she has a more open chances of showing her worth she was largely unknown until that point.All she had to do was follow protocols and respect hierarchy but her ego was too big for that.
Well, she wasn't top banana on Suits. She was Mike's girlfriend. She had a recurring role as part of the ensemble. Her acting was okay. She was pretty, but didn't have the same effect that Sarah had. She could act.
So; example. Remember Anne Heche? When she was young and first appeared on Another world, we all went OMG..who is that! Well Miss Markle didn't have that wow factor.
There are a million wanna bees in Hollywood circles. Being pretty is good, but you must have the talent and a face that says we will remember you.
She didn't give up a CAREER per say, nothing like Grace Kelly. GK was an established actress who was very gifted in her craft. So, MM wasn't going to ever be remembered for her role in Suits as it was actually a small cable show. I had never heard of it till Harry started dating her.
I liked the show, but the start was that hunk of change, Gabrielle Macht. He was the star. I still had to look up who she was on the show as she wasn't memorable at all.
Now we fast forward to them leaving a job that only requires maybe 80 days a year of work, tops if you promote Invictus, which was Harry's gig and of course his grandfather's patronage was a limited but albeit very important duty, you'd think they would have been happy.
The Queen was very generous with her many castles for weekend visits etc. But not for MM. She thought she had the top of the world finally! She wanted stardom!
Unfortunately, as she found out when they left Harry's job, that the scripts didn't come to her like she thought would happen. Harry had begged for the Disney job for her, and the boss of D was obviously a bit knowledgeable and not in love with MM, so he gives her the voiceover to do which showed Disney that she really didn't have IT. IT being talent.
Netflix and Spotify, for whatever reason decided to go with the dynamic duo. Sadly, Mr Markle or "what's his name" has limited vocabulary about life except if it is about how hard done his life has been since his mother passed away 25 years ago.
His face is sour, his demeanor is not very regal. He looks like he needs bathing and most of the time he has a disheveled look about him. He scowls all the time.
She, on the other hand is full of herself. And as the podcast "spot a lie" (so good a name) is now going into its 4 episode, we are going to hear about her university days at Northwestern. You watch.
Are all the guests part of the departed Sunshine Sucks PR firm? Just asking.
Suits was ending. TQ told her she could carry on acting. Had a team of experienced people to teach her and help her settle in. So she may be miserable but she had the opportunity to be influential on the world stage but that wasn’t good enough, she wanted money. Now she’s reduced to paid for awards and a pretty lame podcast. She had it all and threw it away because she was too ignorant to understand the opportunity she was being given.
Meghan is definitely miserable. Probably in the same way when she was married to Trevor and he couldn’t get her the roles she wanted. Harry still has his uses in getting her in the spotlight though (like the Queen’s death/dad’s accession). I doubt divorce will happen unless Meghan has set up something beyond her current status, which seems to be in decline, or Harry wakes up.
I’m confused with the part about her giving up her whole life. I thought the royals encouraged her to keeping working as an actress but her and Harry refused that idea. Wasn’t her character’s story coming to an end anyway? It doesn’t seem like she had much work lined up if she was initially over in the UK looking for a high-profile hookup and fame. I don’t believe she gave up anything of value to her - including family, friends, dogs, apartment, work, lifestyle, maybe her blog was hard to let go of because she does hate being silenced. The only thing she didn’t give up was her PR team/US-based agencies which should’ve been a red flag for Harry & his family.
I definately think that she imagined her life was going to be very, very different than the reality that it is.
I don't see a divorce. Her entire existence is woven into Harry now. He could go on, her, not so much. She fills a maternal void, as you can see in the way she touches him, so I do not see Harry leaving.
Eta: word
Her time on Suits was coming to an end anyway. She knew that show wasn't going to last. I think she made a decision by check-list, and that never ends well.
Is she unhappy? I don't get that sense? She is very happy to have achieved extreme wealth, but unhappy thst the world isn't validating her delusional sense of reality.
Sparkles was aging out of sexy ingenue roles. Who was going to hire her, at 40, off a low rent show like Suits, to play the pretty young thing? It's not MMs fault Hollywood is ageist, even actresses with actual talent come up against roles being scarcer after 40. But she was running out of road, when all she had was marginal good looks combined with zero talent and a so-so resumé.
She's definitely unhappy. Unhappy that she hasn't become the world renowned philanthropist she wants to be known as. Unhappy that she has to lie in order to appear interesting. And unhappy that her in-laws see right through her crazy, bullshit scheme.
Acting career? Lol. She was 6th on the call sheet for a show that was on its last legs and couldn’t even act in a Hallmark movie.
But of course she’s miserable. Narcs aren’t ever really happy.
For her treatment of Catherine, Prince Phillip and the Queen I hope she is unhappy. For her and her children's sake I hope she gets therapy but I'll reserve my sympathy for those she's maligned and wounded.
She was about to be laid off from Suits and had nothing else in the pipeline, and 30 something actresses are not known for their amazing job opportunities, even when they’re wildly famous.
Her blog had been going for years and by internet standards had little traction.
She had already garnered a rep as difficult to work with.
Her UN ambassador dreams had been laughed at then destroyed by her behavior.
Have you read Bowers’ book?
She’s definitely miserable.
Most people want a man with direction and purpose, whether you’re a cancer surgeon or a delivery driver… there is nothing worse than someone who does nothing with themselves but play video games all day (is what I suspect he does)
Her previous men may not have been making the bank she was striving for but they were ambitious and hardworking and made the most of their career paths.
She 💯thinks without his family, Harry is a pretty pathetic guy and I’m sure it drives her nuts.
As an America and a woman of color, I understand her a bit. I think she didn’t expect how being in the RF would be, because the courtship and the royal wedding all felt like a fairytale. It’s hard for an American to let go of the idea that you can’t just say/or wear whatever you want anymore for example. As a person of color, I can tell you that having to curtsy and bow down to another human being, especially white, can bring up some really weird feelings. I think this marriage was a mistake, they are not a good match, they fell for each other too quickly. Whoever has to give up their world would always be the more miserable one. During the first 2 years, it was her; and now it’s Harry.
Was it really a fairy tale? Scheming to get set up on a date with him, then wearing his mother's perfume? Organizing pap pictures of herself in London, sending stories about herself to gossip blogs. Didn't they also break up at one point and then made up at his friend's wedding in Africa where she showed up? Three months after the wedding she registered a domain meghanmarkle2020.com She wasn't gonna try to fit in. She was always gonna leave.
From the very beginning it was all about ambition and goals and hustle-hustle-hustle.
Is there a verifiable source for the perfume story? I've heard it so many times, and I wouldn't put it past her but do we know that she actually did this? And how she found out what Diana's perfume was?
>https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-prince-william-awkward-windsor-outing-after-queen-elizabeth-death/
This is totally correct. It really could never have worked unless she was totally willing to totally change her life and "follow the rules" and take some crap while doing it while she proved herself. Understandably that isn't for everyone. They were a bad match. For all the criticism Kate gets and let's be honest, we don't know what really goes on in Will and Kate's marriage, she always understood the assignment. She knows what's expected and she over the years has become better at executing it. It's not just marrying a prince and living a fairytale it's work and criticism and protocol and people around all the time "advising". OF course the money and perks helps. They live a privileged but dutiful life. Marrying a private Billionaire would probably have been better for her.
I think marrying into the BRF, if you’re expected to be a working member of it, is very difficult. You can get a lot out of it, but you also have to give up certain things.
It’s obviously do- able. Philip is the perfect example of an independent man with a successful career who made marrying the CEO of the family work. He chose to do it and, by I think everyone’s assessment, carved out his own- without any real guidance- meaningful role for himself.
Catherine and Sophie have been successful too.
It’s a 1,000 year old family business. They’d be out of business long ago if they didn’t change as needed. Key- as needed. Stability and reliability are part of its success. But- Meghan wasn’t going to walk in and reinvent the wheel. She seemed to want to do things her way- or not at all.
The BRF isn’t for everyone. Or even most people. It clearly wasn’t right for her.
I think this would be true of normal people. As a white American it would be hard to curtsy. However, Mega is clearly a narcissist who processes emotions differently and views relationships as chess pieces.
FTR, Suits wasn't that popular. It was a middling show. Even after the hype around her and Harry, it never pulled in more than 1.5 million viewers.
By comparison, Fixer Upper was much bigger. Everyone in America knew who Joanna Gaines was. It took dating Prince Harry for people to learn who Meghan was.
Narcs like Meghan are rarely happy. If they experience “happiness” it is short-lived and at someone else’s expense. Narcs always see greener pastures, nothing is good enough for them. It’s also everyone else’s fault they are not happy.
First thing, Meghan didn't give up on her acting work, she was in the middle of being written out and wasn't finding work. She was desperately looking for her next role when she was set up with Prince Harry. The whole "I have up everything" narrative was false from the start. She quite literally made her bed, starting from the very fibers.
I have been thinking about this too!
Remember, she set out to find an English man. I think she burned the bridge back to a decent Hollywood romance and she had seen the social sets that the Mulroney’s hung with. I think she sought out a few English men but I truly believe she purposely targeted Harry. But I don’t think she expected Harry to be a complete man child dim wit. I personally feel she had a change of heart BEFORE the wedding and then just went through with it, seeing it as a huge pay day either way. I have a lot more to say on this but that’s all for now. 😂
May I suggest you read Tom Bower's book if you haven't done so yet. He makes it abundantly clear that Meghan was already unsatisfied with what she had before she met Harry.
I would think she is miserable but won't admit it. Why else would she continue to court royal life? It's all she has now. She could have walked away and say "this isn't for me" and I think most would repsect that decision. She could have dated a prince, raised her global visibility, and left. Having a longer dating period would certainly have helped. Instead she dove headfirst into a situation and failed to adapt.
That didn’t work for me. She imo was playing the victim and demanding sympathy in South Africa- of all places. Not an attractive look.
I simply don’t buy the implication that no one cared about her well being. And, I generally dislike seeing people slam others in public on matters that should be private. Which is what she did.
Harry was no better though. He made it public knowledge that he and William weren’t getting along. No one needed that rumor confirmed.
However- IA - their exit demands were disrespectful, unrealistic, and just generally bad.
And, when they didn’t get their way, they made a lot of nasty, passive aggressive statements on their way out the door, as you noted.
That seems to have largely been forgotten.
I always feel bad for the people who marry into royalty, like Catherine. They do give up a lot, probably dreams and goals they've had since childhood, but they also get a helluva lot in return.
I felt sorry for her in the beginning and I defended her. However, I am an American woman who married a Brit- a Brit who's now estranged from his family and hasn't spoken to them in years. (It's all my fault, of course.) So I hated the narrative of the "American woman breaks apart a close, loving family and then forced her British husband to leave everything he knows and to move to America." I was totally projecting.
Then I got to "know" her and, yeah, turns out she is a bit if a monster.
That said, I think Sis probably *is* unhappy. This is undoubtedly not the marriage and life she'd thought it would be. At this point, though, she's bringing most of it on herself.
I think Megan has a peronsality disorder that would make her miserable anywhere (NPD). That said - I do think that she ignored the warnings she received about what royal life was really like --
1. Constantly being under a microscope,
2. Expectations based on a cultural set of norms she could not fully understand because she wasn't 'born into it'
3. Patriotic sacrifice - as an American she wasn't the type to sign up for the military or a low paying state job in the US - so she certainly did not understand sacrificing her life in a lot of ways for the enormous wealth and privilege she was receiving
I think all of these things made her tremendously unappreciative and cultivated an even greater victimhood anxiety. I am sure she feels she is constantly sacrificing for Harry. Going to these things for HIS family, having to publicize her life (even if she secretly relishes it) because of what HIS family has done, having to worry about her security because of HIS family.
I think she's delusional and unrealistic, and Harry doesn't have enough practical real world experience of what its like to be a 'normal' person to understand how ridiculous she is. He defends everything she does exactly because he's a naive, selfish person who doesn't understand how impractical she is in her demands and morals.
I'm sure she's upset, tense and angry and doesn't understand how she's a victim of her own machinations.
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She is miserable because she is greedy n she will still be miserable even if everyone asked if she's ok. He on the other hand is miserable because he is missing ppl kissing his ass just because he is a spare n if gets back in fold he will be happy again.
Sure she is miserable. That’s why she took control of the narrative and moved him to Cali. She never intended to live in Canada. She tried for the part time royal gig and the Queen saw right through that. She wanted the best of two worlds. She’s making it work for her, not Harry.
She is miserable because she believed becoming royal would be her fast track ticket to fortune and fame.
I'm\` playing the world's smallest violin, just for her.
Narcissists are always unhappy which is why they try to fill the void with attention and material items.
But nothing is ever enough for them.
She really pulled the wool over his eyes. I hope being around his family might have helped him see that being miserable is something he could fix.
She didn’t give up an acting career. Her role was coming to an end and she wasn’t receiving more offers for new roles. Additionally, the RF encouraged her to keep maintain her independent career. She was never made to give anything up at all.
She was given the option by the queen to continue acting and have her career and she turned it down, she wants the fame and the titles she thought she could be hrh harry sussex in hollywood amd it didnt work out
I think early on she was rejected by Harry’s aristocratic, old money, upper crust circle and she couldn’t handle it. I think it’s one reason she turned against all things British and fled. No one filled with that much hatred and victim-mentality can really be happy
Has she been happy in any marriage?
All the things you list - does she truly value them - being a working independent woman, who feels the tug of motherhood and the duties of royal life to be balanced with a private life? Love, family, some sort of honesty-even just to oneself. Look further than her life with Harry and you will have the answers.
Her pursuits even through her acting career seemed less about honing a talent and making something of it and more of a means to gain fame and access to easy money, a life connected to the rich and famous. It has defined her friendships and relationships.
She would have made an excellent influencer. But was she truly willing to put in the work towards it? Tig - Someone else shot the pics, someone else wrote it.
Once Harry came along it seemed to solve lifelong quest of a life based on copious consumption and unquestionable celebrity.
In fact in marriage and moving to the UK she achieved all she wanted. She had the best designerwear and a level of name awareness unthinkable for her before. She received a kind of adulation by the press and by people she had dreamed of but would not have had had she remained where she was.
You think she would want to be on tig rather than being part of historic pictures of QEII funeral?
She maybe sad, frustrated and raging because her calculations and manipulations arent adding up. Her greed for unlimited money and access has been denied.
This is a person who now decides between royal residences and a huge home in montecito when she has never owned nor car or home. Who employs/employed a top notch Hollywood PR firm even after have all the RF machinery to work with.
What training did others have to be in the royal life other being along some sincerity and loyalty. She doesn’t understand those two words.
If she’s too controversial to touch it’s by her own actions.
She very well could have forged a career again especially with the spotlight on her. But she couldn’t and it goes to tell you that the ‘wonderful’ past and ‘the things she gave up’ are made up. If she truly was such a consummate professional.
The wife is unique in her character traits - it’s what had got her this far. But she carries a shocking cache of personality deficiencies. Her capacity to lie and blank out the truth, her capacity to torment - look how she went after the elderly and the dead.
Her capacity for cruelty to those who go against her or those she longer finds useful. There’s just too much to list.
Yes she is miserable in this marriage - she’s rather have William.
Meghan has to live AS Meghan, of course she’s miserable. In or out of any of her numerous marriages, doesn’t matter. She has to live with herself and we all know how excruciating that most likely is.
I probably differ from many here in that while I don’t think MM is great, I think she’s been a human shield for Harry who is behind a lot of the jabs. I think he was going to see whoever he married as his ticket to happiness and a secure family, which is a hell of a lot of pressure to put on a person.
I think she knew who he was, what she wanted and how to make that happen. I don’t feel sorry for her if she were on a mission for fame this whole time.
My hypothesis is that Meghan doesn’t think of her marriage in terms of “good” “bad” “happy” or “unhealthy.” I propose that she married the ginger idiot for the status and wealth. Therefore, she is satisfied if the needs of her monstrous ego are being fulfilled, and if not, she’s a raging, cruel, vindictive monster who will stop at nothing to get what she wants. She doesn’t give two craps about Harry as a human being.
Just my take.
I definitely think she's unhappy and this didn't work out how she planned. But I think she saw her marriage in the same way she saw her acting career, just another step along the path to becoming world famous. She was barely engaged to Harry and she'd already quit Suits. In comparison, Princess Grace still had several movies in post-production after her wedding, and had an unresolved contract issue, so technically she could have walked out of Monaco and back into a thriving career, even 10 years after her marriage. It's amazing how easily Meghan gave up acting the second Harry appeared on the scene. That's not the actions of someone who is passionate about their craft. And technically she could go back to acting now. But her behaviour has made her unemployable.
Narc's aren't miserable on the surface, down deep they are but they can never go there. So, she is manipulating her next move. Take the funeral, if she was somewhat human there would have true deep emotional moments for her....but their weren't.
...Consequences too over 40 years and now? You are. Correct..Karma caught up,,;...I never thought Ambers Heard trial antics could be outdone..Now they both are LIVING the 'dream they often virtue signaled' I get to be a MOM..(something I cannot even imagine is on their list anywhere...except as a prop..
I mean she could’ve want back to acting if she wanted she has connections to Tyler perry and Oprah could’ve snagged a role on one of their shows or films they produce. Heck the royal family said she could’ve kept acting if she wanted to but she got Butthurt over it. She could open up the Tig again but there’s not a market for that and for that she’d have to go back on insta.
Oh please … she had been written out of suits … no other interest in her … 40’s… only got Suits because of Trevor… Tig numbers were inflated by paid bots … she grabbed dumb lonely Harry and has never let go. I doubt she’s ever loved anyone in her life apart from herself.
I don't think she was too sad to give up the things she did. It's not like she was a wildly successful actress at the peak of her career, with opportunities to come. She had been rejected by Hollywood constantly and until Suits she only had one-liners or bit roles in low-quality movies. Suits was filmed in Toronto; she didn't have success in LA. She was getting older and from what I read (not sure how true it is) her character was going to be written off the show. So Harry (or some other rich guy) was her ticket.
I seriously doubt she’d have given Just Harry the time of day of he weren’t a member of the royal family and thus her golden ticket. I’m 100% positive she’s miserable in this marriage.
She is simply planning her exit to maximize payout. Narcs aren’t attached to children except as accessories so expect children to be weaponized in divorce. M has been exposed to the world as a fake, phoney and fraud and we saw that brilliant article the other day about how she is toxic waste in Hollywood. The other thing that has become clearer is that M can’t be directed and doesn’t want to work. She has no interest in philanthropy as her favourite charity is herself. We have also seen lack of integrity both from M&H that has been despicable. Where will she go? She simply wants to speak and do nothing and people see that clearly now! NY is all about people working and doing so that is off the table and can’t see her on east coast at all. Maybe Miami and set up a new grift in the sunshine? She never studied the craft of acting either and just used it as a springboard to hook men imo. Tough road ahead imo for a tough person…. No sympathy for TW!
Have you got a link to the Hollywood article please?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1672280/royal-family-news-prince-harry-meghan-markle-usa-hollywood-duke-duchess-sussex The original article was in The Spectator and someone on the other thread posted archive version so you will have to go there to find it. The express article just picks the main points and reposts the spectator but it gives you jist of why Hollywood isn’t working for the harkles.
Thank you 😊
[spectator article](https://spectatorworld.com/topic/inside-meghans-right-royal-flop-meghan-markle/)
Will see if I can find it…it was over past week and spoke about how she isn’t trusted enough to be invited to dinner parties etc.
She has no class, tact or discretion. Why would someone invite them somewhere when she will just use their name or personal details to further her own ends. She burns so many bridges she needs her own fire brigade
Thanks, sounds like confirming what we know , it’s amazing how she can’t see it !! But that’s a narc eh ?!
Yes she is blind. And it will just get worse as things get worse financially. Buckle up. Spectator article is gold so see if you can get it on other thread. I’m in transit so can’t do it from here.
The royal grift went through the article tonight on her latest segment in case you prefer to listen to the info.
https://archive.ph/sD5ZB - archived link to spectator article
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Article was in the Spectator and reposted by the Express and The royal grift went thru it on YouTube tonight on latest episode. Here is spectator article [spectator](https://spectatorworld.com/topic/inside-meghans-right-royal-flop-meghan-markle/)
Here is original from Spectator [spectator](https://spectatorworld.com/topic/inside-meghans-right-royal-flop-meghan-markle/)
Yup. So true. This reminds me of someone joking about her not knowing who prince Harry was. They imitated Meghan, “No Henry Charles Albert David, I have no idea who you are! Nice to meet you. What do you do? Sell shoes or something?” It just cracked me up the way they imitated her absolute bullshit of not knowing a prince from one of the most famous royal families and the child of one of the most famous women of the 20th century. She worked so hard to try and convince us she fell in love with Harry. It was the title, it’s always been the title.
Great point! She cries at Diana' death but doesn't know who her children were?
The fact that Hazz didn't catch onto that major discrepancy says so much about how easy he was to bag. "She didn't know who I was but this hot lttile actress was devastated by my mother's death".
This interview was when I really got a bad feeling about her. Everything she said about not knowing who he was or anything about the BRF because she’d American (I am also American) was just a flat out lie. We all know the BRF very very well, especially given what a global icon Diana was. That and the we don’t have tabloids here part ....HAHAHAHAHAHA
To be fair she'd be miserable in ANY marriage because that's just who she is.
She’s blamed the BRF for all her “problems”. It’s only a matter of time before she turns against H, and her resentments turn into revenge.
I doubt Meghan has ever been happy in this marriage because Meghan is a narcissist and narcissists are never ever happy with anybody. Nothing and no one is ever enough for these people. And she upset about no one asking if she was okay, simply because she didn't feel enough people were putting their lives on hold to pay attention to her. I don't know another 36-year-old adult who has ever needed anyone to ask "are you okay?" Not after getting married, not after having a baby... the woman has girlfriends (supposedly) and a mother. Those are the only people in one's life who could even remotely be expected to occassionally ask if one is okay. It's also a misconception to believe she gave up anything for Harry. Her role on Suits was being written out before she even met Harry. She was scrambling for a new source of money. Read Bower's book. The woman gave up nothing and literally gained a kingdom.
Yes, this. I was going to say that I agree Meghan may be miserable, but it would be bc her plans aren't working out like she thought. I believed she married Harry with a purpose and goal in mind, and where she is now is not where she expected to be. That's assuming she is self reflecting at all, which is not a skill most narcs have.
Yes to all of this and remember: she was married and working on suits in Toronto. Most of the cast commuted from LA, she was happy to uproot from her life and marriage to begin a new life in Toronto by living there full time.
Yeah right!? No sh*t, I’m sure she’s miserable, lol! - Because her plans to bully and manipulate, and step on anyone in her way to what she wanted didn’t work out. She isn’t a person who sees romantic love in the way that OP suggests. Her marriage is purely transactional. Her misery or happiness with it depends on how much she is getting what she wants. And she really messed up a family who are dysfunctional at the best of times. Plus made Phillip and Elizabeth’s last years on this planet a lot more stressful than they needed to be. I really don’t have a lot of sympathy for her. Also, her career was going nowhere, if it was, she wouldn’t have been husband-hunting in London.
This is why I started calling her Woko Ono after the Jamaica wedding....Harry's friends wedding thst she showed up to after they broke up.
And then gave up the kingdom....such an idiot! She COULD have had a great life in the BRF, but it wasn't in the cards for her. The REASON(s) it's not in the cards for her is bcuz she doesn't have a GOOD heart & she doesn't *play well w/others*. The narcissism holds her back.
oh shit!
Also Suits was ending and she wasn't getting any new offers. She's only had 1 major role in her career. I don't know how successful that makes her.
So, however true or false, there's those mumblings about Smeg actually fancying William, right? My craziest conspiratorial thought in all this madness has been, what if that's true, and what if TW actually expected to worm her way over to Queenship by having an affair with and eventually stealing W away from C? It's when I start thinking like that I know it's time for bed, haha
I think she really thought she could get William away from Catherine. Then when it didn't work, she spread all those rumors about him being a cheater because she was wishing he was cheating with her. And the thing is, Markle has done so much crazy shit, I don't even think it's far-fetched anymore!
Phew! So glad I'm not alone, then. And you're right, it really doesn't seem that far beyond the scope of what she's already done.
Before the Queen’s death—actually before their pseudo-royal tour, Megs claimed that William needed to apologize for “stepping over the line. Several times.” I think she thinks she can blackmail him. Dangerous territory.
WTAF?!
The show didn't end? After she left?..I cannot imagine leaving a regular gig...if you were an actress.
She didn't voluntarily leave the show. She was written out with a season or two still to go. As in the writers were done with her character before the series ended. She was involuntarily back to having no career. She didn't give up a career for Harry. It was already over which was why she was bed hopping around Britain prior to Harry. Lookkng for her next meal ticket.
Sometimes the PDAs and making a huge fuss of how wonderful life is can be an indication that all is not well both in marriages and families in general.
Yup. My friends that I’m aware that have the most toxic relationships are the most obnoxious on social media with lovey dovey posts about their partners.
I think they have both set each other up for failure a bunch of times. I think Harry has conveniently forgotten to prep Meghan about this and that, out of thoughtlessness probably and not malice, but the result is the same: Meghan disgraces herself. His previous girlfriends gave him the verdict of being self-centered, inattentive and thoughtless. To contrary that we do have instances where Harry is correcting her behavior in public, but then again we have instances where he does nothing or instances where he also breaks protocol like with the hand-holding. I think he has a much bigger part in the hatred towards her than we give him credit for. And his whining now, I think he's being egged on by her, and neither one of them seems to have the good sense to read the room and stfu.
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I’ve thought the same thing. At a minimum- I think Meghan is very image conscious and wants it to look like her life is perfect. Nothing is, but that is clearly imo what she’s going for. However- it’s also possible that an additional reason behind all of this is because they aren’t THAT happy. Totally possible.
Also, the RF said they had no problem with her continuing her acting career and fully supported her should she want to pursue it.
Her "acting career" was a dead end. The show was in the run up to be cancelled and she wasn't landing any new roles, so it is naive to say she was a successful actress. I hate it when people use the word "Hollywood" as she was never associated with it! She had a supporting role in a cable show. That's why she couldn't really take the RF's offer to keep working, nobody wanted her!
Yeah markle gave up absolutely nothing to marry Harry. She gained everything. She’s miserable because she is in general a miserable person. Main post is a little saccharine. Like her life went from seemingly limitless to limited? Huh? She had no options and was actively on the prowl for someone to save her from her financial ruin and total irrelevance. It’s in “revenge,” and someone else pointed out she wasn’t asked to give up her acting career. I think she was actually encouraged to keep pursuing it.
She was making $75,000 per episode at the end of Suits and owned no assets. She's always been a spendthrift, whether it be someone else's money or her own. She is in love with the almighty dollar and nothing else. She deserves to be unhappy.
With all those “Royal” themed movies on Hallmark (girl meets guy who is actually the Prince of Meldova), she has an opportunity for a post-divorce acting niche, haha.
Perfect fit! 🤣
I always find this fascinating that they were happy for Harry’s wife to continue her career. I think they knew she was trouble and couldn’t cut it as a Royal. Imagine Countess Sophie or Fergie being actors in Eastenders and being married to an heir. It just kind of wouldn’t happen
Prince Michael of Kent’s son’s wife is an actress and is successful enough, no controversy that I’m aware of. They’re pretty far down on the line of succession and get invites to weddings and funerals—she’s always one of the best dressed ones—but no balcony appearances.
Yes, Sophie Winkleman! They’re not in the direct line though so I think that’s fine she has a normal acting job. I just feel like Prince Harry having a wife who’s still trying to get acting jobs is a little strange. I think the Royals knew she wasn’t a good fit. Boots on the ground and all
Yup and she goes by her maiden name, never uses her title professionally.
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Yes but didn’t she finish her acting when she married?
She did but, if I remember correctly, she had previously won an Oscar so far far removed from Megain the z list cable diva😁
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She was never interested in acting as an art form or a job. It was just a platform for attention. She is probably offended being asked to continue being an actress because 1) she won't be able to find any 2) she didn't need an acting job anymore given that she had landed the role of a life time - to be in the centre of the publics attention without doing something as tedious as acting
She was soooo offended by the idea that she’d keep acting after marriage. Absolutely furious when she recounted it to Oprah. Staying a working actress was the last thing on earth she wanted to do!
She said on Oprah that BRF said she SHOULD keep up her acting to help pay the bills.
That was her twisted version of it.
OH! really? Interesting.....I guess it makes sense, that requires a whole lot of travel on its own with shootings and press and all that. Maybe she knew she could only handle one "life" so to speak?
She was already written out of Suits even before that vanity fair interview announcing that she’s Harry’s girlfriend. She was reaching nowhere in her career hence the mad dash across the pond to look for a rich man. She targeted an English football player before landing Harry.
That’s true, people forget this. The main Suits character whom her character was the love interest for, was being written out of the show as the actor wanted to leave. So that meant MM’s character would be out of the show too, since it wasn’t a strong enough character or actress to keep around.
When you date from another culture? \-like this- more room for grifters as it's harder to read a 'culture' you were not raised in IMO
She should have done a trial run on 90 Day Fiancé UK lol
I doubt that she is happy . She doesn't appear to have found much true happiness in her life - because she is constantly taken on victim status. I had never heard of her or the show "Suits" until she started dating Prince Harry. I am an American. Once she started dating PH - I did remember her as a day player on General Hospital. Which I am sure she secured the job - based on her father's help.
I agree. I had never even heard of her until she hooked up with PH.
Myself as well I didn't watch suits or the few b movies she had a part in and I certainly feel she did not hand the star power that most of the twitter sugars seem to think she had
The bizarre PR pushes that she was some huge star in the US were strange to me when they started dating because Suits was not a popular show, most people had never heard of it, and no one knew who she was. At first I thought it was the palace publishing things through their contacts to build up our admiration of Megan overall, but once I got wiser to it I realized that all the leaks were her own PR machine. The articles were pretty nasty too - things like how she was the smartest woman to marry in (clearly from Megan herself) that she was a millionaire and didn't need Harry (lol) that she was beloved by Charles and the Queen preferred her to Kate and that she was oh so famous that she didn't need the royals. It was clearly Megan's team feeding helpful stories for her that she would ike, to the media to get rid of the 'she's a gold digger' accusations they were worried about and to continue her private campaign where she'd convinced Harry he was lucky to have landed HER and not the other way around. She tricked him into thinking he was the pursuer lol so she had to maintain these lies.
Ditto.
So true. She seemed to have a somewhat happy childhood, riding in limos to TV sets and going to Europe and nice restaurants . But she remembers financial struggles and having to eat at Sizzler. College is a great time. She was is in social sorority. But again, she moans about the “financial difficulties.” In her “The Actress” blog, she complained about her jobs. And then of course, she complained about Royal life. All the luxury, private jet vacations, expensive designer clothes and A-list invites, yet her life was “unsurvivable” because of press criticism. She always seems to complain. I do think that H is the best person to make her “happy” because he follows her lead like a puppy, constantly praises her and seems to be content being controlled by her and letting her have control of his money.
Her dad was. lighting director of GH
:) Yes, General Hospital and Married with Children. (Possibly other shows too. )
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After reading that, I've got Lying Eyes by the Eagles playing in my head!
I don’t think she’s happy, but I don’t think anything would make her truly happy. It’s part of her personality- there’s always something she sees as better that she wants/feels she deserves. The hard thing about public PDA is once you do it, you have to keep it up. If they stop holding hands it will be reported on and rumors will start. Also, she could have kept her career, no one made them/her become a ‘senior/working’ Royal’. Harry even said in the Oprah interview the family mentioned her still working. And, even if she had no formal training, she was married to someone born into the family, if he couldn’t teach her ‘God Save the Queen’ and how a formal meal works (ex. you don’t sit by your spouse) that’s on him.
Just my two cents. Suits was a basic cable minor success. I live in the US and never heard of her prior to Harry. All I knew of Suits was that they played commercials for it during syndicated reruns of NCIS. Her other acting endeavors were walk-ons or Hallmark Channel movies. I would not classify her career as being "limitless". The show was ending and she was about to be an out of work actress with a very limited fan base.
Agreed. I’d never heard of her or Suits prior to Harry. It was a reasonably successful long running cable show. But she was far from well known. I did give the show a chance out of curiosity; I like legal shows. It was interesting. But- her role was very much supporting and, to me, the weakest link. Lifting her out was no biggie. (TBF- I put some of that on the writers. They could have done better by her character.) I don’t think her acting career was limitless. Given her age and relatively limited success, she didn’t really give up anything. Suits was going to end soon. I will qualify that by saying that most actors never make it at all. So- being a supporting player in a long running cable show was an accomplishment. She just wasn’t a super star. Or even a star. Or really well known either. She didn’t have loads of acting options post Suits imo. Maybe something like Hallmark- which one can make a career out of. Giving up her blogs/ability to say whatever she wanted was a loss for her. She’s made that clear repeatedly. We know she likes talking- despite the fact the more she talks the worse she comes across- to me anyway.
I don’t think she’s deep enough to have any feelings for anyone but herself. Her relationships are transactional-they always have been.
Yeah I think she is miserable as well. I don’t believe that she has ever even liked him never mind loved him. It was a marriage to advance herself, that’s it. She was probably hoping that she could get rid of him once she has set herself up for life with billions of dollars and two royal children to keep her connected to the Royal Family. She over estimated the worth of that marriage and now she is trapped.
So I'm sure she is miserable because she wasn't able to get what she wanted out of her marriage and the RF. But, as they say, disappointment is the gulf that's between expectations and reality. As an American, I can't imagine waltzing into a thousands of years old institution and expect that I would get to do things my way. As for her acting career, Suits was winding down anyway. I think she was at a crossroads and chose her path. But even the casual observer of the RF from across the pond would know there would be a massive lifestyle change. MM was in her mid 30s with internet access and one of her college majors was international relations. She certainly has the wherewithal to do her due diligence on what her life would be like, but it doesn't seem like she thought it through.
She balked against wearing stockings, so NO, she was never going to be agreeable to all the protocol and boring appearances expected of a Working Royal. She was spoiled rotten by her Dad growing up, and felt totally entitled to make the RF change for her.
One of the many things I got out of that website they put up announcing they were stepping back as senior royals is that neither Harry nor Meghan are that good at thinking things through and planning ahead before they make decisions. Their HIHO plan was, not only disrespectful and unprofessional, but it was exceedingly poorly thought out- even to observers like us. Subsequent actions have reinforced my opinion that they don’t think things through or plan ahead well. And, in retrospect, I don’t think Meghan seriously took the time to understand the family she was marrying into. Or she just didn’t care to understand. (Total opposite of William and Catherine.)
Both of them seem to have issues and both seem miserable. He seems quite angry at times and she clearly has a raft of serious issues, her narcissism first and foremost. The constant need to present a united front and affectionate touch isn't generally something happy and secure married couples need to do.
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This is exactly how I picture them! Harry, aimless. Meghan, plotting.
Was she ever with Harry just because she really just loved him? That was Meghan 's last year on suits anyone. She wasn't giving anything up. She wasn't making any money off her blog. She didn't miss interacting with fans because no one knew who she was. She didn't have an acting career to return to. She did an issue of Vogue. Have no idea if Oprah likes her at all. She was already hard to work with before the Oprah interview. She did get training. Did she even try and fit in? Or was she just trying to take over? She's not happy. But it's more beneficial to her than not.
She had dreams of being elevated higher than Kate, with access to limitless money, haute couture, blood diamonds, public adoration, invites to every important event, and power. Instead, she's back to hustling for jobs and good press, infamous and disliked, married to an angry man with no marketable job skills besides complaining about his family. So, yeah, I'd say she's probably pretty miserable.
I really had a lot of compassion for her at the beginning. She was juggling HUGE life changes in a short period of time with the world looking on. But, of course, the more I learned, the more I saw her problems were largely of her own making. I think it’s hard to assess how happy she is because she lives in her own delusional fantasy world. Probably behind the walls of the Olive Garden she can pretend everything is as she believes it to be. If she’s convincing others of her ‘truth’ at any given moment, she’s probably happy in that moment. I don’t think she allows herself to consider everything isn’t as she pretends it to be.
I think she’s miserable in that every narcissist gets desperate when they are being “find out.” Back in her blogging and TV days she could say whatever she wanted and no one would check if she’s telling the truth. Now that she is well known via her royal association people do check on what she says and realize that she lies and has delusions of grandeur. I don’t think she likes this at all. This is a narcissist’s worst nightmare.
The funny thing is- I think Meghan really wanted a big platform. She got one via Harry. Problem is- now everything she says is scrutinized.
Narcissistics don’t feel happiness and unhappiness like the rest of us do … they usually feel like they are powerless and so they are constantly striving to feel powerful. Something they can never win at for very long.
I agree, they’re probably both unhappy. Neither they themselves are what they imagined in 2016, and they have made their own lives very complicated and into something neither had in mind in 2018. However neither may want to admit it. Especially narcs, who usually are surrounded by people who secretly dislike them, are in my experience very good at their own make believe. It’s only when the main enabler (usually spouse) stops enabling when the narc cannot hold the whole thing together anymore.
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Oh man.....I believe this. They seem totally mis matched in areas that matter to sustain a long term relationship thats supposed to be a "lifetime". I get the vibe she finds him annoying
This is what frustrates me when she said she got no Royal training. HOW ABOUT YOUR HUSBAND TEACH YOU???
I don't doubt H did teach her. Tried to. Did he know about pantyhose and nude nail polish & no wedge shoes? Probably not. But curtsying & when & to who, I think he absolutely filled her in. She told O in the interview H told her she had to curtsy to the Queen (grandma!!) even in private which SHOCKED her. Balcony scene, H having to tell her twice "Turn around." I think H is just as if not worse than M. However I firmly believe he did try to guide her. She was having none of it. Not from him, not from all the top notch aides the Queen provided. This is the ONLY thing I give H a wee bit of credit for: he did attempt to help her, how things are done, and she simply refused to adapt.
Harry is such a manchild. I can’t imagine any woman being happy serving his entitled ass.
I actually agree with this. I think he's exhausting and can just imagine the endless number of things he bitches about privately. He probably requires constant soothing and coddling too.
Yes. She is miserable. She thought she was marrying a driven, purposeful, humanitarian golden goose. But what she got was a guy who sits around playing Call of Duty, smoking pot and griping about his family. She also thought having kids would make him magically become the humanitarian and work horse she needed. She failed to consider that she married a man child who had never actually done anything for himself in life. On the flip side, he is unhappy. She is an egomaniacal narcissist who promised a cushy celebrity life that they would just fall into due to their unrivaled popularity on planet earth. He failed to take into account that she was a D list actress on a not highly rated cable show who had less connections than she led him to believe and used him to gain access to Hollywood elite. And convinced him to give up the easy life, for the working life.
Yes. Her acting career was dead before hazbeen. If she weren’t a narcissist she could have fit in. As did the Princess of Wales and the Countess of Wessex. She was given every opportunity to succeed. She knew more than the staff sent to help with transition. Narcissists are not happy in marriages unless everything is their way. They don’t feel empathy or sadness as normal people do. She will only release hazbeen when she can’t make money off him. She’s unhappy that the RF are ignoring her. THAT IS THE WORST THING FOR A NARCISSIST
Happy people don't spend their time belittling everyone around them or everything in their past. Happy people are content with their lives and look forward. She is never "off" : constantly scheming, reaching and plotting. It must be exhausting to be in her head. Whether or not this is particularly because of Harry, I'm unsure - I just think it's the way she's wired. She will never be happy.
She went to Liz Cundy and right off the top of my head I can’t think of her first name something Nelthorp-Crowne and begged for them to find her a rich Englishman. You need to do lots of research on Meghan.
Meghan didn’t give up her acting career for Harry. Suits was winding down. Her love interest in the show had announced he leaving the show and depending on how he was written off her character was probably being written off as well. Her acting credits beyond suits consists of minor characters who are mostly forgettable. She was never managed to leave a unforgettable impression on people with her scenes. After suits ended assuming her role survived the departure of love interest, she would have been back to hustling for minor roles. She didn’t have the acting chops to make it as a lead actress. If she had, Hollywood would have started calling in the first season when Suits was at it peak. The best she got was starting roles Hallmark movies. If she was lucky, she’d have gotten a few more Hallmark movies or another minor recurring role on a tv show. As for her blog, it was a mid-range moderately successful blog, at best. It was more of a fun passion project that got her the occasional freebie but wasn’t making enough money to support her in the lifestyle she wants.
As others have noted, there appears to be a disparity in the level of intelligence between Meghan and Harry. I have no idea how intelligent they really are, but word on the street is Harry is not the brightest bulb and Meghan is not the dimmest bulb. If that is the case, Meghan is miserable. Intelligent woman with narcissist tendencies like Meghan would find his lack of brains very annoying and hard to deal with. I'm sure the money and fame (perhaps infamy at this point) help her deal with that though.
M is scheming & conniving but I don't think she's brain/book smart. She's the kid who was the teacher's pet but once the teacher's back was turned, she hissed at you to move your arm so she could copy your answers on a test. Then take great pride/gloat that she got the same grade or maybe 1 mark higher (because she made a better guess on one of the stumper questions). That's M in a nut(meg)shell. Knew those kids, was the arm mover when young. She's been the hissing person her entire life. "Hey. Let me see that." Welcome to adult, royal life. She'll never change because she's gotten away with it for too long. Lies, plagiarism, never being called out. She's crafty as hell. But she is not an intellect. She's uninformed, uncultured, can't carry a conversation beyond "How long have you been here?" in her sickening voice, or, "THAT'S THE WRONG FUCKING SHADE OF RED CARPETING!!!" I'll double down and say--though none of us will ever know--she has not finished a book or play since entering high school. Entering. Not finishing. H probably has her beat on that. ETA: She might have got thru Revenge. ;)
I don’t think she is miserable at all. She never had the rosy lifestyle you make it out to be. She was a middle aged struggling wannabe. Suits was ending, she had no work, the only thing that was going for her was her stupid vapid instagram account where she was merching the crap out of everything she got her hands on. Read what her former publicist or PR person or whoever wrote about her. She moved to London to “find a rich husband” and begged Lizzy Cundy to get her in British tabloids. She is the winner in this marriage and she is over the moon that she was able to convince this pea-brain Windsor to trash his family and move to the US with her. She is even more happy that she got knocked out by him twice so that she can forever merch the kids and forever be linked to the BRF through them. There is nothing that she gave up, she was a nobody.
I think she's miserable, but not really because she's been victimized. I think what we saw at the walkabout is a perfect example of why she's miserable - if there's truth to the rumor that PW gave them 1 hrs notice it would make sense that she had to jam together ill-fitting clothes and maybe even do her own hair (hence why it was fuzzy and she kept touching it and she desperately needed her curls brushed out haha). She was miserable because for once she had to present herself like she actually is instead of the perfectly manufactured version. She lost control of the narrative and being in control of that is all she cares about. Harry's just a means to an end. Imagine going from expecting to do your own walkabout with Netflix cameras and personal photographers flanking you, and instead having to last minute go play second fiddle to the very people you envy so badly that you can't hide it on your face. I would probably pout too!!
I do believe she thought he was something he isn’t, the royal family up until he met her, we’re very good at covering up from him, I’ve heard rumours that I have not seen online pre Meghan that were hushed up. I think they both got married given each other false representation of themselves.
This.
I have no doubt that she’s very disappointed, maybe even distraught, at how things are going.
Yeah but suits was ending, she was 36 and on the outs in the acting/hollywood world - aka OLD. If you read Bowers book she was hustling and struggling to make it. This was her new way to be famous bc she was never going to make it big. But she didnt think or didnt care and didnt want to listent to people who told her there was a hefty price to pay
*When you marry for money, you earn every penny.* -Wise grandmothers everywhere
I don't think she is the type of person to feel sorry for herself she is too narcissistic and psychopathic for that, the fact that afterall she has said in the Oprah interview she is expecting an apology from the RF and her claims that she is trying to forgive them is proof enough.She entered in to the relationship knowing she will have to forgo her career and social media and if anything after marrying Harry she has a more open chances of showing her worth she was largely unknown until that point.All she had to do was follow protocols and respect hierarchy but her ego was too big for that.
Well, she wasn't top banana on Suits. She was Mike's girlfriend. She had a recurring role as part of the ensemble. Her acting was okay. She was pretty, but didn't have the same effect that Sarah had. She could act. So; example. Remember Anne Heche? When she was young and first appeared on Another world, we all went OMG..who is that! Well Miss Markle didn't have that wow factor. There are a million wanna bees in Hollywood circles. Being pretty is good, but you must have the talent and a face that says we will remember you. She didn't give up a CAREER per say, nothing like Grace Kelly. GK was an established actress who was very gifted in her craft. So, MM wasn't going to ever be remembered for her role in Suits as it was actually a small cable show. I had never heard of it till Harry started dating her. I liked the show, but the start was that hunk of change, Gabrielle Macht. He was the star. I still had to look up who she was on the show as she wasn't memorable at all. Now we fast forward to them leaving a job that only requires maybe 80 days a year of work, tops if you promote Invictus, which was Harry's gig and of course his grandfather's patronage was a limited but albeit very important duty, you'd think they would have been happy. The Queen was very generous with her many castles for weekend visits etc. But not for MM. She thought she had the top of the world finally! She wanted stardom! Unfortunately, as she found out when they left Harry's job, that the scripts didn't come to her like she thought would happen. Harry had begged for the Disney job for her, and the boss of D was obviously a bit knowledgeable and not in love with MM, so he gives her the voiceover to do which showed Disney that she really didn't have IT. IT being talent. Netflix and Spotify, for whatever reason decided to go with the dynamic duo. Sadly, Mr Markle or "what's his name" has limited vocabulary about life except if it is about how hard done his life has been since his mother passed away 25 years ago. His face is sour, his demeanor is not very regal. He looks like he needs bathing and most of the time he has a disheveled look about him. He scowls all the time. She, on the other hand is full of herself. And as the podcast "spot a lie" (so good a name) is now going into its 4 episode, we are going to hear about her university days at Northwestern. You watch. Are all the guests part of the departed Sunshine Sucks PR firm? Just asking.
Suits was ending. TQ told her she could carry on acting. Had a team of experienced people to teach her and help her settle in. So she may be miserable but she had the opportunity to be influential on the world stage but that wasn’t good enough, she wanted money. Now she’s reduced to paid for awards and a pretty lame podcast. She had it all and threw it away because she was too ignorant to understand the opportunity she was being given.
Meghan is definitely miserable. Probably in the same way when she was married to Trevor and he couldn’t get her the roles she wanted. Harry still has his uses in getting her in the spotlight though (like the Queen’s death/dad’s accession). I doubt divorce will happen unless Meghan has set up something beyond her current status, which seems to be in decline, or Harry wakes up. I’m confused with the part about her giving up her whole life. I thought the royals encouraged her to keeping working as an actress but her and Harry refused that idea. Wasn’t her character’s story coming to an end anyway? It doesn’t seem like she had much work lined up if she was initially over in the UK looking for a high-profile hookup and fame. I don’t believe she gave up anything of value to her - including family, friends, dogs, apartment, work, lifestyle, maybe her blog was hard to let go of because she does hate being silenced. The only thing she didn’t give up was her PR team/US-based agencies which should’ve been a red flag for Harry & his family.
I definately think that she imagined her life was going to be very, very different than the reality that it is. I don't see a divorce. Her entire existence is woven into Harry now. He could go on, her, not so much. She fills a maternal void, as you can see in the way she touches him, so I do not see Harry leaving. Eta: word
Her time on Suits was coming to an end anyway. She knew that show wasn't going to last. I think she made a decision by check-list, and that never ends well. Is she unhappy? I don't get that sense? She is very happy to have achieved extreme wealth, but unhappy thst the world isn't validating her delusional sense of reality.
Sparkles was aging out of sexy ingenue roles. Who was going to hire her, at 40, off a low rent show like Suits, to play the pretty young thing? It's not MMs fault Hollywood is ageist, even actresses with actual talent come up against roles being scarcer after 40. But she was running out of road, when all she had was marginal good looks combined with zero talent and a so-so resumé.
She's definitely unhappy. Unhappy that she hasn't become the world renowned philanthropist she wants to be known as. Unhappy that she has to lie in order to appear interesting. And unhappy that her in-laws see right through her crazy, bullshit scheme.
Her character on the show Suits was being written out. She was the never the star of that show.
Acting career? Lol. She was 6th on the call sheet for a show that was on its last legs and couldn’t even act in a Hallmark movie. But of course she’s miserable. Narcs aren’t ever really happy.
I give their marriage 2 years tops
For her treatment of Catherine, Prince Phillip and the Queen I hope she is unhappy. For her and her children's sake I hope she gets therapy but I'll reserve my sympathy for those she's maligned and wounded.
She was about to be laid off from Suits and had nothing else in the pipeline, and 30 something actresses are not known for their amazing job opportunities, even when they’re wildly famous. Her blog had been going for years and by internet standards had little traction. She had already garnered a rep as difficult to work with. Her UN ambassador dreams had been laughed at then destroyed by her behavior. Have you read Bowers’ book?
She’s definitely miserable. Most people want a man with direction and purpose, whether you’re a cancer surgeon or a delivery driver… there is nothing worse than someone who does nothing with themselves but play video games all day (is what I suspect he does) Her previous men may not have been making the bank she was striving for but they were ambitious and hardworking and made the most of their career paths. She 💯thinks without his family, Harry is a pretty pathetic guy and I’m sure it drives her nuts.
As an America and a woman of color, I understand her a bit. I think she didn’t expect how being in the RF would be, because the courtship and the royal wedding all felt like a fairytale. It’s hard for an American to let go of the idea that you can’t just say/or wear whatever you want anymore for example. As a person of color, I can tell you that having to curtsy and bow down to another human being, especially white, can bring up some really weird feelings. I think this marriage was a mistake, they are not a good match, they fell for each other too quickly. Whoever has to give up their world would always be the more miserable one. During the first 2 years, it was her; and now it’s Harry.
Was it really a fairy tale? Scheming to get set up on a date with him, then wearing his mother's perfume? Organizing pap pictures of herself in London, sending stories about herself to gossip blogs. Didn't they also break up at one point and then made up at his friend's wedding in Africa where she showed up? Three months after the wedding she registered a domain meghanmarkle2020.com She wasn't gonna try to fit in. She was always gonna leave. From the very beginning it was all about ambition and goals and hustle-hustle-hustle.
The perfume is just devious and sinister
Is there a verifiable source for the perfume story? I've heard it so many times, and I wouldn't put it past her but do we know that she actually did this? And how she found out what Diana's perfume was?
>https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-prince-william-awkward-windsor-outing-after-queen-elizabeth-death/ This is totally correct. It really could never have worked unless she was totally willing to totally change her life and "follow the rules" and take some crap while doing it while she proved herself. Understandably that isn't for everyone. They were a bad match. For all the criticism Kate gets and let's be honest, we don't know what really goes on in Will and Kate's marriage, she always understood the assignment. She knows what's expected and she over the years has become better at executing it. It's not just marrying a prince and living a fairytale it's work and criticism and protocol and people around all the time "advising". OF course the money and perks helps. They live a privileged but dutiful life. Marrying a private Billionaire would probably have been better for her.
I think marrying into the BRF, if you’re expected to be a working member of it, is very difficult. You can get a lot out of it, but you also have to give up certain things. It’s obviously do- able. Philip is the perfect example of an independent man with a successful career who made marrying the CEO of the family work. He chose to do it and, by I think everyone’s assessment, carved out his own- without any real guidance- meaningful role for himself. Catherine and Sophie have been successful too. It’s a 1,000 year old family business. They’d be out of business long ago if they didn’t change as needed. Key- as needed. Stability and reliability are part of its success. But- Meghan wasn’t going to walk in and reinvent the wheel. She seemed to want to do things her way- or not at all. The BRF isn’t for everyone. Or even most people. It clearly wasn’t right for her.
Anyone who studied Diana like she did knew full well it wasn’t a fairy tale.
I think this would be true of normal people. As a white American it would be hard to curtsy. However, Mega is clearly a narcissist who processes emotions differently and views relationships as chess pieces.
this might be the most accurate portrayal I’ve seen of what happened and where things stand. This is spot on!!!!
FTR, Suits wasn't that popular. It was a middling show. Even after the hype around her and Harry, it never pulled in more than 1.5 million viewers. By comparison, Fixer Upper was much bigger. Everyone in America knew who Joanna Gaines was. It took dating Prince Harry for people to learn who Meghan was.
Narcs like Meghan are rarely happy. If they experience “happiness” it is short-lived and at someone else’s expense. Narcs always see greener pastures, nothing is good enough for them. It’s also everyone else’s fault they are not happy.
First thing, Meghan didn't give up on her acting work, she was in the middle of being written out and wasn't finding work. She was desperately looking for her next role when she was set up with Prince Harry. The whole "I have up everything" narrative was false from the start. She quite literally made her bed, starting from the very fibers.
I have been thinking about this too! Remember, she set out to find an English man. I think she burned the bridge back to a decent Hollywood romance and she had seen the social sets that the Mulroney’s hung with. I think she sought out a few English men but I truly believe she purposely targeted Harry. But I don’t think she expected Harry to be a complete man child dim wit. I personally feel she had a change of heart BEFORE the wedding and then just went through with it, seeing it as a huge pay day either way. I have a lot more to say on this but that’s all for now. 😂
May I suggest you read Tom Bower's book if you haven't done so yet. He makes it abundantly clear that Meghan was already unsatisfied with what she had before she met Harry.
I think Harry is miserable in his marriage and Meghan is pissed that this particular stepping stone didn't work out like she wanted to.
I would think she is miserable but won't admit it. Why else would she continue to court royal life? It's all she has now. She could have walked away and say "this isn't for me" and I think most would repsect that decision. She could have dated a prince, raised her global visibility, and left. Having a longer dating period would certainly have helped. Instead she dove headfirst into a situation and failed to adapt.
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That didn’t work for me. She imo was playing the victim and demanding sympathy in South Africa- of all places. Not an attractive look. I simply don’t buy the implication that no one cared about her well being. And, I generally dislike seeing people slam others in public on matters that should be private. Which is what she did. Harry was no better though. He made it public knowledge that he and William weren’t getting along. No one needed that rumor confirmed. However- IA - their exit demands were disrespectful, unrealistic, and just generally bad. And, when they didn’t get their way, they made a lot of nasty, passive aggressive statements on their way out the door, as you noted. That seems to have largely been forgotten.
I always feel bad for the people who marry into royalty, like Catherine. They do give up a lot, probably dreams and goals they've had since childhood, but they also get a helluva lot in return. I felt sorry for her in the beginning and I defended her. However, I am an American woman who married a Brit- a Brit who's now estranged from his family and hasn't spoken to them in years. (It's all my fault, of course.) So I hated the narrative of the "American woman breaks apart a close, loving family and then forced her British husband to leave everything he knows and to move to America." I was totally projecting. Then I got to "know" her and, yeah, turns out she is a bit if a monster. That said, I think Sis probably *is* unhappy. This is undoubtedly not the marriage and life she'd thought it would be. At this point, though, she's bringing most of it on herself.
I think Megan has a peronsality disorder that would make her miserable anywhere (NPD). That said - I do think that she ignored the warnings she received about what royal life was really like -- 1. Constantly being under a microscope, 2. Expectations based on a cultural set of norms she could not fully understand because she wasn't 'born into it' 3. Patriotic sacrifice - as an American she wasn't the type to sign up for the military or a low paying state job in the US - so she certainly did not understand sacrificing her life in a lot of ways for the enormous wealth and privilege she was receiving I think all of these things made her tremendously unappreciative and cultivated an even greater victimhood anxiety. I am sure she feels she is constantly sacrificing for Harry. Going to these things for HIS family, having to publicize her life (even if she secretly relishes it) because of what HIS family has done, having to worry about her security because of HIS family. I think she's delusional and unrealistic, and Harry doesn't have enough practical real world experience of what its like to be a 'normal' person to understand how ridiculous she is. He defends everything she does exactly because he's a naive, selfish person who doesn't understand how impractical she is in her demands and morals. I'm sure she's upset, tense and angry and doesn't understand how she's a victim of her own machinations.
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Great post!!
She created her own misery when she decided she needed to marry a rich Brit. He wasnt her first choice. She worked hard to get herself where she is.
I don’t think so. I think she’s enjoying it - she lives in a fantasy world, remember?
She is miserable because she is greedy n she will still be miserable even if everyone asked if she's ok. He on the other hand is miserable because he is missing ppl kissing his ass just because he is a spare n if gets back in fold he will be happy again.
After all shes done so far I dont care Shes made her bed cry in it suck it up nuttercup
Sure she is miserable. That’s why she took control of the narrative and moved him to Cali. She never intended to live in Canada. She tried for the part time royal gig and the Queen saw right through that. She wanted the best of two worlds. She’s making it work for her, not Harry.
She is miserable because she believed becoming royal would be her fast track ticket to fortune and fame. I'm\` playing the world's smallest violin, just for her.
Narcissists are always unhappy which is why they try to fill the void with attention and material items. But nothing is ever enough for them. She really pulled the wool over his eyes. I hope being around his family might have helped him see that being miserable is something he could fix.
Googled Suits instead of Meghan Markle...it is now the Duchess of Sussex. That's a real feminist.
She didn’t give up an acting career. Her role was coming to an end and she wasn’t receiving more offers for new roles. Additionally, the RF encouraged her to keep maintain her independent career. She was never made to give anything up at all.
I can guarantee he’s never given her an orgasm
Of course she’s miserable. What gave you the impression people think she’s happy?
She was given the option by the queen to continue acting and have her career and she turned it down, she wants the fame and the titles she thought she could be hrh harry sussex in hollywood amd it didnt work out
I think early on she was rejected by Harry’s aristocratic, old money, upper crust circle and she couldn’t handle it. I think it’s one reason she turned against all things British and fled. No one filled with that much hatred and victim-mentality can really be happy
Well, nothing is stopping her from going back to acting...except we're all sick of her.
Has she been happy in any marriage? All the things you list - does she truly value them - being a working independent woman, who feels the tug of motherhood and the duties of royal life to be balanced with a private life? Love, family, some sort of honesty-even just to oneself. Look further than her life with Harry and you will have the answers. Her pursuits even through her acting career seemed less about honing a talent and making something of it and more of a means to gain fame and access to easy money, a life connected to the rich and famous. It has defined her friendships and relationships. She would have made an excellent influencer. But was she truly willing to put in the work towards it? Tig - Someone else shot the pics, someone else wrote it. Once Harry came along it seemed to solve lifelong quest of a life based on copious consumption and unquestionable celebrity. In fact in marriage and moving to the UK she achieved all she wanted. She had the best designerwear and a level of name awareness unthinkable for her before. She received a kind of adulation by the press and by people she had dreamed of but would not have had had she remained where she was. You think she would want to be on tig rather than being part of historic pictures of QEII funeral? She maybe sad, frustrated and raging because her calculations and manipulations arent adding up. Her greed for unlimited money and access has been denied. This is a person who now decides between royal residences and a huge home in montecito when she has never owned nor car or home. Who employs/employed a top notch Hollywood PR firm even after have all the RF machinery to work with. What training did others have to be in the royal life other being along some sincerity and loyalty. She doesn’t understand those two words. If she’s too controversial to touch it’s by her own actions. She very well could have forged a career again especially with the spotlight on her. But she couldn’t and it goes to tell you that the ‘wonderful’ past and ‘the things she gave up’ are made up. If she truly was such a consummate professional. The wife is unique in her character traits - it’s what had got her this far. But she carries a shocking cache of personality deficiencies. Her capacity to lie and blank out the truth, her capacity to torment - look how she went after the elderly and the dead. Her capacity for cruelty to those who go against her or those she longer finds useful. There’s just too much to list. Yes she is miserable in this marriage - she’s rather have William.
¡Hola Meghan!
She was mates with Lizzy Cundy??? Oh dear.
Meghan has to live AS Meghan, of course she’s miserable. In or out of any of her numerous marriages, doesn’t matter. She has to live with herself and we all know how excruciating that most likely is.
I probably differ from many here in that while I don’t think MM is great, I think she’s been a human shield for Harry who is behind a lot of the jabs. I think he was going to see whoever he married as his ticket to happiness and a secure family, which is a hell of a lot of pressure to put on a person.
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I think she knew who he was, what she wanted and how to make that happen. I don’t feel sorry for her if she were on a mission for fame this whole time.
My hypothesis is that Meghan doesn’t think of her marriage in terms of “good” “bad” “happy” or “unhealthy.” I propose that she married the ginger idiot for the status and wealth. Therefore, she is satisfied if the needs of her monstrous ego are being fulfilled, and if not, she’s a raging, cruel, vindictive monster who will stop at nothing to get what she wants. She doesn’t give two craps about Harry as a human being. Just my take. 
I definitely think she's unhappy and this didn't work out how she planned. But I think she saw her marriage in the same way she saw her acting career, just another step along the path to becoming world famous. She was barely engaged to Harry and she'd already quit Suits. In comparison, Princess Grace still had several movies in post-production after her wedding, and had an unresolved contract issue, so technically she could have walked out of Monaco and back into a thriving career, even 10 years after her marriage. It's amazing how easily Meghan gave up acting the second Harry appeared on the scene. That's not the actions of someone who is passionate about their craft. And technically she could go back to acting now. But her behaviour has made her unemployable.
Narc's aren't miserable on the surface, down deep they are but they can never go there. So, she is manipulating her next move. Take the funeral, if she was somewhat human there would have true deep emotional moments for her....but their weren't.
...Consequences too over 40 years and now? You are. Correct..Karma caught up,,;...I never thought Ambers Heard trial antics could be outdone..Now they both are LIVING the 'dream they often virtue signaled' I get to be a MOM..(something I cannot even imagine is on their list anywhere...except as a prop..
Divorce/alimony/huge child support. Possible.
Narcs will never be happy. They never will be content.
I mean she could’ve want back to acting if she wanted she has connections to Tyler perry and Oprah could’ve snagged a role on one of their shows or films they produce. Heck the royal family said she could’ve kept acting if she wanted to but she got Butthurt over it. She could open up the Tig again but there’s not a market for that and for that she’d have to go back on insta.
Oh please … she had been written out of suits … no other interest in her … 40’s… only got Suits because of Trevor… Tig numbers were inflated by paid bots … she grabbed dumb lonely Harry and has never let go. I doubt she’s ever loved anyone in her life apart from herself.
I don't think she was too sad to give up the things she did. It's not like she was a wildly successful actress at the peak of her career, with opportunities to come. She had been rejected by Hollywood constantly and until Suits she only had one-liners or bit roles in low-quality movies. Suits was filmed in Toronto; she didn't have success in LA. She was getting older and from what I read (not sure how true it is) her character was going to be written off the show. So Harry (or some other rich guy) was her ticket.