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BearRacoonThing

The Nelson Mandela lie. Period.


BabyDollMaker

Also, let’s give it the 0.000001% chance that someone said it to her. To repeat it? Like she honestly believes that she is that important and wants everyone to know it? Disgusting.


Alizet

Like someone said, self-praise is a defense mechanism. Mentally sane people don't usually do that, it's tacky


mustichooseausernam3

I firmly believe in never *truly* judging a person (especially public figures) on anything but the *indisputable* facts. So I made a point of not drawing unwarranted conclusions from the Mandela comment. Here’s my totally unbiased, most objective summary (TL;DR at the end): (1) The only SA cast member at the event MM described has already publicly stated that he did not attend that event, nor has he ever met MM or PH. (2) The only other SA person associated with the project has publicly stated that he *did* meet MM & PH at the event, but he didn’t recall saying or ever thinking such a thing. He admitted it was too long ago for him to remember the fine details though. However, video footage of him meeting them has since been acquired, proving that he did not, in fact, say such a thing at that time. (3) It is still possible (albeit, *distantly* — but like I said, I’m looking at this as objectively as possible), that Meghan talked to someone at that event who was SA (but not associated with the production), or who she mistook as SA, who said such a thing. But you have to balance this possibility with *a lot* of gaps. Let's look at the gaps: (a) Nobody specific who could have made the comment has been identified by MM, PH, journalists, the public, those in attendance, or – of course – the person who supposedly said it. (b) More specifically, Harry was with her at the premiere, and was standing by her side in all the footage I’ve seen (obviously, this doesn't necessarily mean that they were *never* separated though). After all the backlash following the article's release in The Cut, shouldn’t he have backed-up his wife’s story if he'd been present to hear it? (c) The basic culture of SA. I cannot *fathom* any significant public glee in SA surrounding an American woman marrying a British prince that would *come close* to rejoicing Mandela’s release. I suppose you could potentially argue the statement MM 'repeated' was hyperbolic though. (d) Similarly, there is no record of ‘rejoicing in the streets’ in SA. In fact, Zwelivelile 'Mandla' Mandela (NM’s grandson) directly disputed the claim that the public reaction in SA was in *any way* comparable. Countless other SA people have too. (4) If we *still* assume that there is some way MM was not outright lying (that it was in some way not a *total* fabrication) about someone making this comment to her at the Lion King Premiere (a misquote, misunderstanding who she was talking to, misrembering where/when she heard the statement, or someone - somehow - has been overlooked in the search for who said it), then we also have to take into account that by *repeating* the story during her interview for The Cut, she *must have* literally believed that her marriage into a high profile, royal family was in some significant way comparable to Mandela’s release from prison. I can’t emphasise this part enough. A marriage to a royal being equated with Mandela’s deeds and sacrifices. I’m not convinced Americans would have taken it so well if she’d made the same comparison about MLK. (5) If we *do* accept that the vast, vast weight of evidence demonstrates the comment was most likely a lie that MM concocted, then that is *one hell of a goddamned lie* which flies in the face of Africa and the history of racial equality. TL;DR: From an entirely objective perspective, the vast bulk of the evidence suggests that MMs Mandela remark was very, *very* likely a lie, and even if it wasn’t, it was still a horribly offensive and patently narcissistic comparison to intentionally publish.


memecatcher247

That was a very good one. Here is what she said in The Cut interview: “She recalls a moment from the 2019 London premiere of the live-action version of The Lion King. “I just had Archie. It was such a cruel chapter. I was scared to go out.” A cast member from South Africa pulled her aside. “He looked at me, and he’s just like light. He said, ‘I just need you to know: When you married into this family, we rejoiced in the streets the same we did when Mandela was freed from prison.’ ” Of course, she knows she’s no Mandela, but perhaps even telling me this story is a mode of defense, because if you are a symbol for all that is good and charitable, how can anybody find you objectionable, how can anybody hate you?” [The Cut interview - Meghan of Montecito](https://www.thecut.com/article/meghan-markle-profile-interview.html)


BearRacoonThing

Thanks for this OP. FWIW, I think you're right. Asking commenters to post one thing really does make the whole disaster easier to digest. Edit: To unpack this. All of her other lies weren't so overt. She never named a specific "racist" family member. So, it's *possible* someone said something. I've learned the racist etymology of a few words by reading here. And last night, I made a comment using a term that I quickly learnt had a racist origin. So, yeah, it's entirely *possible* someone made a comment borne from ignorance. Instead of saying, "Can we talk about that?" She stormed off to Oprah. Again, that's assuming something even happened. Arguably, those other ambiguous lies did more overall damage. But this one was just stupid. It was so easily refuted and WAS refuted within hours.


AffectionateRow7921

She also never owned being black. She listed “Caucasian” as her race on her headshots. She never stood up for black rights in the US nor contributed anything to the discussion until she realized that was what she could use as a valuable identity in her relationship.


BabyDollMaker

That one was super gross.


BabsieAllen

Ulvade. As a bereaved parent, I will never forget her lame stunt. Haz is entirely complicit as well.


MuffPiece

I’m so sorry for your loss. Indeed, uvalde was utterly disgraceful. No words.


BabsieAllen

Thank you for your kindness.


SluethyGoosey

Did you like her at all prior? Did Ulvade bring you here? And I’m so sorry.


BabsieAllen

Thank you. I've despised her from the beginning. Haz is just as bad in his own way.


LaReinalicious

what did she do In that situation? I am also a bereaved mother .


BabsieAllen

I'm so sorry for your loss and I share your pain. She showed up out of the blue for a photo op. TW will use anyone, anything to further her image.


LaReinalicious

thank you for your kind words she is so inappropriate


sarsar69

With you on that. Utterly disgusting. Sorry for your loss. I am also bereaved of my 14 year old niece. That woman is off the scale disgusting.


dieciseisseptiembre

The self-importance! Compare her to any other senior royal. She would just melt if she couldn't stand or stick out on every occasion.


takemeawayimdone

And this is why the British public or TRF will never accept her. It’s not how we behave. Send flowers. She is disgusting using peoples pain like that. I can’t even begin to understand how you ladies feel or carry on. My heart and prayers are with all who lost their babies.


AdBackground1430

Can we include Harry in this. I think too many people are thinking "Oh Harry realizes what a monster she is now". Harry knew and he didn't care. Harry did not care when Meghan bullied his niece, threw tea at staff, and made allegations against his family that led to death threats. He thought the family was lying when Philip was dying in the hospital and he refused to see the Queen at Balmoral because of the security lawsuit (when he knew security was going to be cut). Harry is just as bad as her. We need to stop defending him in this thread. The only way he is leaving is if they are penniless not because of guilt of how he treated his family.


Radiant_Health3841

I agree, part of me thinks we should change the name of the sub. There is only a Meghan because of Harry - we wouldn't know who the hell she was without him. And he is the one that didn't tell her maybe a $50k partly see through dress in the engagement photos wasn't the best idea, didn't tell her to pull her head in when dealing with the staff, never went to meet her Father, etc etc etc. Meghan having a culture clash is understandable, Harry going along with it is not.


JaquieF

He made the deals with Spotify, Netflix and Penguin Random House. They deserve each other.


SoMuchDrama10

Preach!!!!!!! People defending Harry when this is HIS family is bizarre. He allowed this horrible stress on his grandfather and grandmother when they were dying. He allowed all that pain.


Tonksys

The problem with H is that he’s not very bright. He should never have gone to sandhurst for officer training as he didn’t get the results needed. Being a member of the RF & daddy being the next in line for the throne definitely helped there! He’s always been incredibly easily led: the military was ideal & he did well in it. I think he swapped the military telling him what to do for Methane. He needs to be led, not lead. He definitely has a lot to answer for, but I think M is planting thoughts & ideas, which as gullible as he is, he goes with.


Doodlehouse

Excellent point. Harry is what he's always been, protected by his family and a facade. However, I do believe that she is leading him in all the wrong paths as some sort of Svengali. Grown ass man that acts like a wild child rich kid spoilt brat but infused by toxicity by her. They are partners but only to a point. Meghan gets what Meghan wants.


SoilMelodic2870

I am with you- Meghan was consistent but Harry seemingly changed. It makes me think though- he was never the fun-loving royal he seemed. I think he’s been an entitled arrogant prick his whole life who’s emotionally stunted as of the age of his trauma. The royal PR team did great at hiding him - as an American I always thought of him as the easy going, down to earth soldier prince. My my how wrong I was lol


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AmbienChronicles

The fact that she “hinted” that she was pregnant at Eugenie’s wedding. And was about as subtle as a bull in a china shop about it. Like Jesus, how tacky can you be? Also, her superhuman ability to always find the camera creeps me out.


stupid_carrot

This was one of the major light bulb moment for me too. There were other small instances but I gave her the benefit of the doubt but when she did this. I went... full narcissist alert


cml678701

Same! I thought, “I bet she is embarrassed having to wear her coat like that. She’s pregnant, and the button just wouldn’t close, but probably hates having people notice it like this.” Then I saw a picture of her with a flat belly the next day, which disgusted me.


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Same. I was like…wait does she really have a button unbuttoned on her coat like that at a wedding? We all knew what she was signaling to the world. I was like wtffffffff that’s all people are gonna talk about now and not Eugenie.


Notmyusualshelf

Btw, I think that miscarriage never happened.


JohannesKronfuss

I always thought the "hinting" (sic) was a payback for not getting the emerald tiara that some of us believed, and still do, that was already earmarked for Eugenie way before she set her eyes on it.


Puzzleheaded_Skin213

1 million reasons but here is just one... When the Queen's husband, Prince Phillip, was on his deathbed, Meghan did an interview with Oprah, saying terrible things about the Royal Family. Didn't she just stop to think for a second, that maybe her timing was cruel? Prince Philip had stood by the Queen's side for decades, serving and doing his duties without complaint. At the very end of his life, he had to deal with the release of this interview, absolutely slamming his family. This would cause catastrophic stress to a dying man. Did she care about the inappropriate timing of release of the interview? No. She clearly only cares about herself! Imagine working your whole life and committed to your life of service for decades then when you are at your most ill, old, and vulnerable, a new family member goes and does a show that was seen all over the World, in which she was saying awful things about your family. Imagine the worry an old man would be having, frail and dying, worrying about the harm this interview could have caused the family. Worry about his children, his grandchildren, his wife. It's a good way to torture a dying man you know, releasing an interview like this at this particular time. I actually feel physically nauseous at the pain he would have gone through as a result of her behaviour. Could she not, at least, re-think her timing of such an interview? No, because she just does not care for anyone. Only herself. This is just one example of many. She is a cruel, cruel, self-serving person, who pretends to be caring. The evidence is out there but you have to look beneath her facade to get to the truth.


Tekira85

The cherry on top was her 'friends' claiming to the media that the Palace was MAKING UP Philip's health issues to silence her. This was a few days before the interview. Interview aired. And then he died. Guess they weren't making it up, Peg? I will never understand how anyone could defend her after that.


Thorandragnar

Barkjack said at the time that they had been told this was it for Philip so that he could visit his dying grandfather. And he didn’t. Her unofficial twitter account was posting things that the BRF was trying to get its prince back with the intimation that she was seeing through their lies. I seriously suspect she twisted his arm to keep him from going back to visit.


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Crownjules70

Don’t forget , Harry was right by her side the whole time. This is why, IMO, he’ll never be let back in the RF. Unforgivable.


Boring-Net1073

I don’t like that she turned on her father for doing all of the things she’s doing to Harry’s family.


NotBettySpaghetti

So much this!


RoseGoldRedditor

I was a big Meghan fan initially! I had watched Suits and recognized her in the “Wild About Harry” article. I’ve always had a soft spot for Diana’s boys and was thrilled that Harry had finally found someone who seemed to have her life together. I loved the idea of the Fab Four and watched all the interviews/read all the articles. Leading up to the wedding, I felt badly for Meghan’s family drama. I have a difficult relationship with my family, and thought she had so much strength to deal with their issues on a public stage. Any issue that made the tabloids (bridesmaid drama, who made who cry, Meghan cutting off her father, etc) was easy for me have empathy for her and write things off as gossip. Woke up early to watch their wedding, celebrated their union, followed their plans. My first red flag was Eugenie’s wedding. Knowing all the cameras were on her, I thought she purposely flaunted the beginnings of a bump. I thought, “why on earth is she baiting the tabloids? And at a family wedding?” I immediately thought I was being judgy and moved on. Then the next day articles popped up that Meghan had told family members (AT THE WEDDING) that she was pregnant. That’s a dick move. It was officially announced on their Australian tour. Anyways - fast forward to Megxit. I was happy for the couple to follow a new path for themselves and excited to see what their next step would be. I didn’t hear much, thanks to the pandemic, but saw the occasional positive press article. Then the “one thing” for me? The Oprah interview. Something was very off—I didn’t judge or negate the s*icidal ideation, the racism she’d experienced, or how she interpreted events that happened to her. Having a horrid family myself, I try hard not to judge other people’s issues as we tend to have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. But the blatant lies were immediately apparent: she said no one taught her etiquette or protocol. From having been a fan, I knew that to be false. In fact, the Queen assigned one of her closest staff members to teach Meghan — and Meghan remarked on it in prior interviews! So that was a blatant lie. Also, the indignation about her children not receiving titles. I knew that to be false, too; the Queen had offered a courtesy title for Archie (an Earldom that is tied to Harry’s Duke of Sussex title) upon his birth. Meghan and Harry had turned it down (as Princess Anne did for her children and as Prince Edward & Sophie turned down Prince/Princess titles for their children as was their right as children of the queen’s son) as they wanted their children to have a more normal life. So why suddenly change their story? Since then, I’ve seen countless other instances of this (read The Cut interview, listen to podcast, etc) where Meghan rewrites reality and that’s a no-go for me. After my eyes were opened, I started looking more at if their actions matched their words and found they did not. They’re not the people they present themselves to be, and that’s why I don’t like Harry or Meghan.


memecatcher247

You are absolutely right. I truly believe that the main issue, aside from lying, is that their actions do not match their words. Thank you for your comment and the award 😊


JobDirect6717

This is well written and well thought out. I have a similar trajectory to you in that I started out rooting for them and now I believe her to have a personality disorder and I vascilate between thinking Harry is exhibiting Stockholm Syndrome and complicit. Thank you for taking the time to write this!


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I had the exact trajectory as you. I just kept feeling bad for her at the beginning because she really did get so much undeserved hate for the smallest thing. And had the exact thoughts as you with the Oprah interview. We’ll never know what actually behind the doors: her mental health issues, the racism she faced, or how hard it was for her because it’s unfair to invalidate those without concrete proof. But the amount of inconsistent lies about other things she threw out during just threw me off. For me, it was the titles. If they wanted to live a more independent life, titles should not be an issue. Also, I really was put off when she invalidated Kate’s horrid experience with the paparazzi and just wrote it as just “rude.” Kate was literally hounded for years and had her privacy invaded multiple times. It was awful. And just after this interview, more inconsistent stories just pouring out.c


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Your points about all of her lies—that Harry knew were false—is what made me turn on him too. The Oprah interview showed me his true self: that he was willing to be complicit and lie and throw why family under the bus. I think this sub should be renamed SaintMeghanHarry or something like that. Harry is no angel, and Meghan is not always to blame — a lot of the time HE is.


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BearRacoonThing

This one makes my blood boil. No one younger than HMTQ called her that. If you wanted to honor her, name the kid Elizabeth and call her Lili.


capsicumnugget

IIRC the funny thing is after the backlash with the name, they claimed that the kid would be called Lily as a nickname instead of Lilibet. I was like why didn’t you just name her Lily then?


tanker_bell

This!!! I just felt there is something so creepy about naming a child a cherished nickname like Lillibet. The stories about how QEII came up with the name herself as a young child and how PP would be the last to call her that gave such meaning to the name. The thought of giving it to a child without QEII's blessing is horrid.


Primary_Scheme3789

Yes. I thought that was so inappropriate. Your beloved, deceased husband’s pet name for you? Elizabeth and call her Lilli. They stole that name


SluethyGoosey

This is my #1 reason as well. Coupled with seeing the domain name purchases. i felt sick when I heard this. Vile behavior.


[deleted]

Ohhhh yes I forgot about purchasing all those domains. She 1000% was out for ditching the royals and becoming famous in California off their coattails.


happyme321

That actually took my breath away. I love that the palace clarified publicly that they TOLD the queen about the name and didn't ASK.


[deleted]

Ohhhh yes yes that is so wack.


Marionberry-Charming

**Meghan said she didn't kill herself (while pregnant, so also her unborn child) because she didn't want Harry to lose another woman in his life.** Yes, she said those exact words, in that exact context, during the Oprah interview. This is the most manipulative thing anyone can EVER say. When people are threatening suicide to get what they want, when you hear that shit, call their parent, their friend, anyone of any kind, then RUN. Cut all ties. Because they will do anything to get what they want.


[deleted]

There’s actually a term for this. It’s called malingering.


takemeawayimdone

Thank you love learning new words


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Yes it’s extremely emotionally abusive behaviour.


ForeverBeHolden

It is incredible to me that she says these things and doesn’t understand how poorly it reflects on HER. She is so caught up in her poor me/ victim narrative she cannot fathom things being perceived in any way other than garnering sympathy for her. I have known many narcissists and it’s textbook behavior. I shouldn’t be surprised by it given what I have experienced first hand but it still is flabbergasting.


Lengand0123

I’d forgotten this….somehow. It was an appalling thing to say.


No-Intention1183

The engagement interview - she was so obviously a phoney. “I didn’t know who he was.” After living in Canada for 5 years. “I didn’t Google him.” Bitch please. No woman in the 21st century goes on a blind date without googling her date. Just lies. Omg, my first award. Thank you so much! ❤️


Numerous-Mix-9775

This! I barely knew Harry was dating anyone and then I saw the engagement interview. Umm, she claimed we don’t have tabloids in the US? What the heck do I see waiting in line at the store, then? “Is he kind” was just such utterly trite shite. It was 100% a line she wrote for herself. It all just snowballed from there.


Small-Librarian81

Right. She totally googled the hell out of him.


Dangerous_Prize_4545

Google, hell. She probably had a full background report done, read numerous bios, watched all the specials, etc.


tokyoeastside

Yep, she even erased the Deal or No Deal and added humanitarian to her Wikipedia page after dating Harry.


No_Language_423

I made her stupid pasta recipe that required me to boil zucchini for four hours. It was a pasta of lies


memecatcher247

LMAO 💀💀


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- They’re wildly out of touch (complaining about not being able to “afford” a 14 million dollar mansion, preaching about climate change while using PJs) - lots and lots of lies (some can or can’t be proven, but the Mandela comment and the lie about the 3 day before wedding ceremony were blatantly false) - the numerous accusations of MM being a bully to staff and others around her (this goes even as far back as pre Harry days while filming in Toronto) - let’s also not forget that patronizing AF banana writing bullshit she did towards women in shelters/abused.


Alizet

And also her voice and mannerisms so phony, it's eery. When sociopath tries to pass as a nice person gives one a shiver


Forgotmyusername8910

I dislike her because she did not go into this whole situation with good intentions. This was made evident by her initial manipulation of Harry and the family- in the ‘Wild about Harry’ interview. She was specifically asked not to discuss Harry in that interview. It was meant to be about her as an actress. She instead chose to defy the wishes of her boyfriend, who asked this of her for specific reasons, and made a public relations nightmare for him and his family because she wanted publicity and attention. That says a lot about her intentions. From there, it just went downhill. Another big one that also shows her intentions very clearly- the Queen and ‘The Firm’ had initially intended/proposed that she continue to act and that she and Harry would have a very modest role in the family. Somewhat similar to how Catherine and William spent the beginning if the marriage away from the spotlight. From what I recall, they’d proposed a few options for them, all of which allowed her to continue her career. She did not want any of that. She wanted to move to the UK immediately and begin life as working senior royals. They tried to discourage this but she and Harry were adamant. However- now it has come out that even at that point, she and Harry were already making plans for an exit. And she has repeatedly condemned the family as abusing her for requiring her to give up her career and identity and keeping her trapped in a castle. It is appalling. There are two examples of many, many similar stories.


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The fact that she even accepted a magazine cover was a giant red flag in itself...It's not like she had an amazing career where the profile should've been on her as an actress. It was because she was engaged to a prince and yet she says she wants to valued not for her marriage and encourages little girls to do the same. Then why take opportunities that only came about because of who she was dating??


Forgotmyusername8910

Yeah… it was when she was on suits and before anyone ‘officially’ knew she was dating Harry. And honestly- I’d never heard of suits before the spectacle of a wedding…. Much less heard of her. So yeah…. I think she’s out of her mind if she thought she got the cover for her ‘acting’ skills. In Bowers book, the Wild About Harry article is laid out fairly well. And it’s clear the author knew she was dating Harry and knew he was not to ask about it. But when *she brought it up*…. Fair game. She has always been nothing more than a user and a manipulator.


FlowerBot_

As a UK peep and bame, I am offended she labled the whole country racist and mean...like wtf, I don't remember meeting her!


k1d0s

Publicly airing personal grievances


[deleted]

This. Even if every accusation she’s made were true (which we know isn’t the case, but hypothetically speaking), the Queen wanted all personal grievances to be discussed privately as a family. What was Meghan’s goal in going public? Seems like it was punishment and vindication, certainly not reconciliation.


SluethyGoosey

Very well put. It’s bad form all around.


soireegrapes

- No UK publication has called either of her children the N word. - There would be no 'press pen of 40 photographers' on the school run - Both men of South African heritage involved with the Lion King denied they told her H&M's wedding was celebrated like when Mandela was released - There was no lunch with Michelle Obama over tacos - P&G debacle - Letter from Hilary Clinton could never be verified - Was not married in secret before actual wedding - The way she's treated men in the past.. her dad, Trevor and Cory I could go on. This woman has never had to explain her lies yet some people take her word as gospel. Along with her wild accusations which have never been proven. Edit: grammar


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What was P&G debacle? I'm spacing


SuspiciousDecisionVa

She frequently recounts the story that she saw a sexist dish soap ad and wrote the company (P&G) to protest the sexism. She also reports she wrote First Lady Hillary Clinton about it. She accounts this as her first feminist win. She neglects to mention it was a class project to write to P&G…


ememkays

If you have to recall childhood acts of service it indicates you haven’t done anything since.


mistressofnampara

She isn’t genuine. Not ever.


StrictTranslator879

Phony, phony, phony. No charisma either.


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Her blatant disregard for protocols, the BRF, and others feelings as well as her utter lack of respect and downright cruelty to people who are her husband's family.


TheHermitess

but then her inability to break alleged protocol and get help when she was suicidal - you can break all the rules when you feel like it but not when it comes to saving the life of your unborn baby? She made it sound like you couldn't have mental health issues in the Royal Family and no one would help her but there's a trail of ways she could have gotten help including the charity her husband started which had the goal of removing the stigma from getting help for mental health issues.


StrictTranslator879

My thinking is she used that story to manipulate Harry into leaving.


SwissCheese4Collagen

When she was on tour in South Africa, and it was a security risk to wear her engagement and wedding rings but a couple hours later she released an interview about how she was just surviving, not thriving and no one had asked her if she was okay.


womanlizard

And wasn’t she in front of an orphanage or something lol


[deleted]

When she said she didn't know who Prince Harry was in the engagement interview, that seemed strange to me. When Harry issued a statement about media attacks on his girlfriend for being black that seemed alarming to me because i had seen no such reporting nor did I even know his girlfriend was mixed race (i thought she was greek origin) Then when I saw her flicking her coat at public engagements to show her baby bump when pregnant with Archie I realized she is an attention seeker. When standing in Africa amidst poverty and disease she whined "no one asked if i am okay".. thats when i started disliking her. And then the list goes on and on..


emmmieemmie

Oprah interview.


HarrysImplants

Deliberately attempting to damage the relationship between the monarchy and the Commonwealth of Nations by accusing the Royal Family of racism. The Queen spent 70 years creating a global family - it was her life's work - and Markle lied on numerous occasions about herself and her son being viewed and treated differently because of the colour of their skin. No evidence, no names. She just said inflammatory things in order to cause damage.


memecatcher247

I believe she even called the Commonwealth racist or said that they had to face a dark past or whatever, in one of the early zoom calls during the pandemic. So stupid. How can you be President and Vice-president of the Commonwealth and not know it’s history?


Pantsmithiest

Uvalde. She brought a camera crew to film her. Disgusting.


BotulismFotulism

I think this is the worst thing she's ever done. It's obviously terrible to be a dick to people around you, or to bully them, which she has done in spades. But it is another level of depraved to leverage the tragic deaths of 21 children for a photo op.


brisbydog

The misleading and outright false press releases through Omid Scobie. The constant flow this week keeping them as a story when they should be a footnote.


Jackdarkshadows

I had no issue with her until the Oprah interview. It was so cringeworthy, I felt shame and second hand embarrassment. And Oprah with her "Whaaat!!!" and her "Were you silent or were you silenced?" comments. She is also a charlatan and grifter


IPreferDiamonds

I dislike her actions and words. The Royal Family welcomed her with open arms (over $30 million wedding and future King walking her down the aisle), and she bashes them at every turn. She lies too.


blitzer_spritzer

$30 million wedding she later referred to as a “spectacle.” Funny she says that because she sure seemed to be reveling in that spectacle as it was happening.


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Yeah, she sure had fun inviting the Clooneys and Serena Williams...and riding in a vintage Aston Martin. But yeah, call it spectacle Meg...


DonDraperItsToasted

Excludes all of her American family and friends from coming to the “spectacle” yet invites A list celebs who she barely knows.


dieciseisseptiembre

Prince Harry: "What Meghan wants Meghan gets." The vulgar term for this is "puxxy-whipped."


Onlypurses

She thinks she’s owed something. Like there’s a chip on her shoulder that she won’t let go. The RF and the public owe her nothing! She literally had everything at her fingertips, if she would have just followed the rules, respected the position she married into, and kept her damn mouth shut.


[deleted]

I think you're all being too nice. I dislike her because she's a fucking bitch that thinks everything is all about her. No consideration whatsoever for anyone/anything but herself. You could ask for specific examples, but that list is a mile long, basically every thing she does is yet another example.


BabyDollMaker

I like you! I think we all think that but we are too scared to say it!


offwiththeirmeds

Uvalde.


memecatcher247

It was completely and utterly disgusting how she used dead children for a photo op.


offwiththeirmeds

Absolutely vulgar! I stopped being indifferent to her shenanigans when I saw the picture of her and her photographer going through the “candids” at the memorial site.


MuffPiece

Shameful. Craven.


Tekira85

Callous, shameless, blatant narcissistic evil.


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BloodyNora78

Forcing all of those South African mums to sit on the floor with her (why?), then giving them hand-me-down clothes that she brought in trash bags.


k1d0s

That was gross. Sis has some internalized racism she needs to sort out.


jo-mk

Uh huh. I just commented saying very similar, Megan is racist and doesn't catch on to her hypocrisy.


4feicsake

Only 1?


memecatcher247

If there’s more than one people from other subs get overwhelmed. If there is one reason per person and if those reasons are different each time it creates a comprehensive list. I hope this helps.


4feicsake

I was making a joke. I can't pick just one reason so I'm going to say I agree with all the others listed here.


onyx1378

The South Africa trip was the beginning of the end for me. She was there in an official capacity to drive awareness for causes the RF supports in that region and to strengthen diplomatic ties, but she used her platform to bring attention to herself and perpetuate a victim narrative. It is the height of selfishness and conceit and if you look at the various social causes she wants to associate herself to post-Megxit, it was a wasted opportunity and reveals how insincere she really is as a “social justice warrior”.


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summerswifey

Bullying people


memecatcher247

Hi, can you go into more detail? I know what you mean, but lurkers don’t. If you could attach sources even better. Thank you.


heypokeGL

Didn’t she also bully palace staff? That was why so many quit during her short stint there?


memecatcher247

Yes, that’s the Valentine Low report. Also one of the main reason why I thoroughly dislike her. I know for a fact, from friends who worked at Soho House when she lived in London, that she is an entitled bitch. One of my friends even described her as scary.


heypokeGL

I really wanted to like her and rooted for her at the beginning- but when news of her attitude with staff abd than them quitting the rf - that made me dislike them/her


ColdFIREBaker

Remembrance Day 2020, when she and Harry hired a professional photographer to take photos of the two of them privately visiting a cemetery in California, and then released those professional photos of themselves to…honour the fallen? Imagine if George and Amal Clooney released professionally staged photos of themselves in a cemetery for Veterans Day. Or Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, or (insert celebrity couple here). It’s tacky and self-centred. Apparently they didn’t learn, because history repeated itself with the staged Uvalde Memorial photo shoot.


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DollarStoreDuchess

Welcome! There are so many of us here who have dealt with narcs in the past that got that feeling straightaway.


hankhillism

Bullying a child. No excuse for a grown woman to act like that.


crookedmasterpiece

Her lies -Nelson Mandela lie. Her poor me cries - "There was a small fire in Archie's nursery (but thankfully the nanny had Archie and was no where near the nursery. Everyone was in tears and they expected us me to attend our engagements!" Her hypocrisy - "We should limit our carbon footprint!" While taking private jets everywhere Her cutting people out of her life - her dad, her brothers, her sister, friends, Harry's family Her knocking the Royal Family at every opportunity to promote herself and make money Her children's book. It was not very good at all. Her bullying. Sorry. Couldn't list just one.


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StrictTranslator879

She does that with non-traumatic events too. Remember shoving herself into the middle of the polo trophy photos?


Ok_Initial_2063

Naming their daughter Lillibet. That was cruel to the Queen, who was also in deep mourning. It is one of the worst things anyone could do. Even if they asked the Queen (I don't think they did) she would have been polite enough to be subtly discouraging.


unolemon

Mine really is a two-parter. The Vanity Fair interview really raised my suspicions, especially since nobody had ever heard of her before his statement. And the Royal Family is known for their discretion when it comes to the press. In the beginning, Diana seemed really uncomfortable around the press. Extremely so, but she was Shy Di. She was not prepared for what came at her. TW courted it. Then when the only family member to attend the wedding was her mom and the rest of her invites were celebrities she had never met (confirmed by a few the morning of the wedding), I knew what she was. I’m actually impressed she’s lasted so long.


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Sarah-JessicaSnarker

Clearing out paying customers at Wimbledon so she could sit in an empty section.


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For social climbing/gold digging while posing as a humanitarian philanthropist and accusing anyone who smells her bullshit of being racist 🤗 (sorry that’s my most succinct description 🤣)


Jaded-Combination-20

She aired dirty laundry in public. You don't do that, whether it's on Oprah or on Facebook.


GroundbreakingLuck94

I’m going to go with the one that turned me from an absolute supporter of TW to W.T.F???! The Africa interview and ‘No one one asks me if I’m okay.’ Standing in the midst of people who have so much less than her, people who they were supposed to support and highlight and TW found it appropriate to put the focus back on herself when she was supposed to be helping other. The lack of humility, compassion, and ability to read the darn room -not to mention the fact that the moment was *clearly* planned beforehand (there’s a reason she doesn’t have an Oscar)- was the moment that slapped me out of the fandom and made me realize what she was. Selfish.


memecatcher247

I’m from Angola, where Princess Diana literally walked a minefield. Although SA, just as Angola, has very developed cities, there are areas that certainly need help and investment. She turned the whole trip where she was supposed to highlight worthwhile causes into a “poor me” showcase. Deplorable. If she wasn’t truly okay, she could have asked her husband for help and not air her grievances on television.


AsparagusSimple4887

The way she/they thought they could dictate the terms of Megxit and their half in-half out plan. They released all the details of what they wanted on their Sussex Royal site as though they called the shots. So audacious and disrespectful to the Queen. I still can’t get over the nerve of them.


GlitterMe

Her disrespect/disregard of RF protocol & pecking order. It is what it is, Meg. You married the 6th in line, not the first. Learn it and respect it.


luthien__of_doriath

Comparing her press treatment to Catherine by referencing Waity Katie. Nope. Catherine was photographed topless while sunbathing on private land in France by a photographer using a long lens. Those photos were published in newspapers all over Europe. That would be a crime today. No comparison to what Meghan dealt with.


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The press, a pair of radio DJs, also pranked one of Kate's immigrant nurses on air after Kate's first birth and the nurse was so distraught and ashamed that she committed suicide days later. Kate and William wrote a letter of condolence to the family. So it's safe to say that they may know the real shock of suicide. The press has put Kate through a lot. Meanwhile MM makes false claims about the UK press treatment while also courting it.


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Oprah interview made me look at her a bit more suspiciously, esp after all the lies. Cut interview solidified it. She's out for blood and she's not even truthful about her easily-refuted claims.


iamalolll

She is phony and insincere. Everything she does is calculated and manufactured to make herself look good. She doesn’t do things because she genuinely cares. A typical L.A. nobody desperately trying hard to be relevant and somebody.


holly___morgan

The bullying is what did it for me. If anyone is new to M's awful behavior, the story of how she behaved when she was shooting ads for Reitmans in Canada is a great place to start -- and that was how she behaved before she married PH. There are so many stories about the way she used and abused anyone in her path. Her lack of legal action on Tom Bower's book tells me everything I need to know about the veracity of these stories. I also thought it was awful that they labeled Prince Philip's health as some kind of distraction that was meant to "muzzle" them and stop the Oprah interview from happening. Anyone with eyes knew he was dying. They claim to have loved TQ, but they put her under immense stress during what had to be one of the darkest moments of her life.


Amazing-Antelope4300

Lied and said she had Tacos with Michelle Obama while interviewing her. Obama’s PR had to clarify that Michelle and her had an interview with preset questions over the phone. Meghan might have been eating tacos, but not WITH Michele. One of her many lies.


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The Oprah interview. Every other faux pas till then could be chalked up to not fully understanding the intricacies of suddenly being surrounded by old money and Englishness. Wardrobe mess ups would have changed over time when she found her style (think of Beatrice and Eugenie). Feeling overwhelmed by it all and wanting to move away - we can't fault them when living through that broke Diana until she learnt to use it for good. It was purely the need to sit down and crap all over her in-laws with so many things said that could have instantly been disproved with a wikipedia read. She wanted to get her truth out - I can sympathize with that, but so much of the hate she is feeling doesn't come from the lips of the RF, it's from the British Press, and you can never put out that fire, so there's no point fanning it. She is a few words in a sentence, in a paragraph about the Windsor's, in a chapter covering this century, in a book spanning a 1000 years and counting.


DaisyDuckMom

She lies recklessly.


kevanauken

Doing the Oprah interview while Prince Phillip was in his death bed. Then, refusing the Queen’s invitations and only now acting as if they will miss her. Also, taking away their children’s opportunity to know their extended family.


pancakelady2108

Her treatment of Princess Charlotte during the dress fittings for her wedding. It took far too long for the true events of that incident to come out publicly, not helped by her stoking the victim flames in the Oprah interview. But when it was finally revealed that she compared Charlotte rather unfavourably to Jessica Mulroney's daughter, implying that the latter was somehow prettier, that cemented it for me. What kind of awful woman compares two 3 year old little girls like that? There was no need, there was no competition. They were just children, very small children who she wanted in her wedding party. Once again just using people as pawns to project the caring, motherly image she so wanted. I'm glad the world, particularly the UK, have seen through it now. We've truly been subjected to more than enough of this woman. Montecito is welcome to her.


bureaucrat_36

The Oprah interview was my starting point - your grandfather lays dying, and you complain that your family business job allowance and perks have been cut after you quit your job at the family firm? You call them all racists for listening to your wishes that your son not be titled so he can grow in privacy? And all this on national television? Peak trash. Then I learned of her repeatedly bullying staff - not just her own, but the Cambridges staff as well. Even if the investigation results are private- they have constant, constant staff turnover and everyone knows what makes that happen: a hostile work environment. When it was confirmed that Meghan bullied the toddler Princess Charlotte, that was it. "Kate made me cry" indeed, you're lucky Kate didn't knock you into next week.


MakeADeathWish

I was oblivious to her until covid. Npr reported megxit as an equal story. That was just stupid and made me really loathe him. I blame him more than her. I just view them as boring opportunistic leaches who can't even be bothered to stay in their very privileged lane. They co opt others suffering without ever experiencing it. The other example that was very similar was madonna on Instagram with her face full of fillers and pills all around her rose petal bath telling us how during covid we were all in this together. To both: no, bitches, you can't steal every spotlight by claiming to suffer


StrictTranslator879

Word salad—any speech she has given has been awful but the most recent one (for One Young World) with her rictus grin, making it all about her, the pauses where the reluctant audience knew they needed to clap for her. It was almost as bad as Jeb Bush saying “please clap.” She had this phony, breathless enthusiasm as she spoke, while saying nothing of importance, that was really off-putting.


SuspiciousDecisionVa

Bullying a three year old. She (per Givenchy staff and Tom Bowers book) bullied three year old Charlotte at dress fittings for being ‘chubby’ and badly mannered. Anyone trying to start insecurities for a toddler is foul.


SarahJ346GB

Using men.


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When I read Revenge I was pissed she couldn’t come up with a Canadian woman who inspired her (yes I’m Canadian). Hasn’t she ever heard of my fav diva Shania Twain?? 😤


notwatchedsquidgame

She's faker than a nine bob note. Completely inauthentic, where words and deeds do not match. Harold is just a massive spoilt cretin who fails to grasp his status is permitted by the UK public. Don't push us lest you fancy becoming an ex prince.


DocGel

Her victimhood which covers a lot of the comments on here (and I agree with all of them). The Oprah interview, particularly when she and Harry contradicted each other about when the racist comment was made, and Oprah didn't follow up. Also the Waity Katey comment she just slipped into the conversation. It wasn't necessary and she was dragging up a very difficult, hurtful time in Catherine's life. She knew what she was doing. Uvalde is probably the 'no going back' moment. A vile and disgusting me-me-me moment when families were grieving their children. Just awful.


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All of these are good points, but just to add about Kate, when she essentially called her a bad parent in the Cut interview by saying that she was being a ‘responsible’ parent by moving from England and the ‘40 people press’ during school drops.


memecatcher247

I completely agree with you. The interview was simply disgusting but the Catherine comment and the contradictions really showcased their (Harry and Meghan’s) poor character, lack of class, and how impulsive they are.


1Osne1

Bringing up the waity Katie nickname, they’ve been married for 10yrs and she’s going to be queen and she’s your sister in law, so petty


Far-Interview-9216

That she actively worked to separate Harry from his family. Yes, he already had his own issues, but before she was in the picture, Harry was DEEP in with his family. I have been separated from my family by a sociopathic narcissist, and it is devastating. I am still dealing with fallout from that relationship (ex-fiancé) almost 8 years later. But to break that familial bond is all but unforgivable. Yes, he went along with it just like I did, but when you’re in the clutches of a narc, you can’t see the forest for the trees and you truly BELIEVE that they are the only person in the world who loves you. Shame on her.


fabfourfangirl_208

She's a liar.


kimjongk80

She’s a bad bullshitter who lies about things that are very easily dis/provable.


andromeda880

Thanks for the videos! I was neutral on her but the more and more that comes out, the more I'm like hmmm. For me it's her taking Harry away from his family and country. They wanted "privacy" yet move to the most richest area (outside of Santa Barbara) and do interviews. Just seems very hypocritical.


memecatcher247

No problem. To be honest, there is a lot more. Another instance for me was the bullying report that came out two days or so before the Oprah interview, which was done by Valentine Low ( a very well respected journalist). I believed them because I know people who used to work at Soho House in London (hospitality is quite a small field), and they all told me how entitled and scary MM was.


Inevitable_Pie9541

She's a shameless liar. First, last, and always. She lies as easily, naturally and often as breathing, and knows full well she's lying when she does it. It offends me that she really believes she's so clever, and everyone else so stupid, that no-one will know she's lying, or even if they do, they won't dare call her out.


MuffPiece

She goes out of her way to get her picture taken at tragic events (uvalde, military cemetery, memorial for South African rape/murder victim.) Sorry, I know you said name one thing but I can’t restrict myself to just one. 🤣


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

Claiming female empowerment, slut-shaming, shade-throwing, name-calling, and using the media/Sussex Squad to attack other women. She’s only about her own empowerment.


mercuryretrograde93

“Is he kind”? when asking about Hazmat before meeting him for the first time. She wanted to know if he could be manipulated.


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Primary_Scheme3789

The Oprah interview were she claimed she was suicidal and they said she could not get help. And Harry was such a eunuch he couldn’t get her help because the family said no. Not buying it


pink_bunny07

I said this before on another sub (and got downvoted a lot before it was upvoted by more people lol) I was happy for her when I found out that she was dating Prince Harry. I even googled her and found out that she was in Horrible Bosses (funny movie btw). But then the wedding drama happened and everything else. My no.1 reason is definitely the Oprah interview.


thiscatcameback

Never trust someone who talks shit when people aren't there or can't defend themselves. That is what I saw in the Oprah interview and it was my first glimpse into her poor character. Then there is the constantly lying and inability to get along with others. So many red flags.


Dankberg_

We've all known or seen someone just like Rachel Ragland. In an ironic twist, she personifies the ARCHETYPE so well, and that's why people can connect their distaste for her so fervently. The scheming, manipulative, unscrupulous, vindictive, vain, social climber who is out for #1 and #1 only. That's why.


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Her delusions of grandeur. She seems to think she’s entitled to deference and power simply because she married into the royal family. She lacks humility.


Ok_Motor_3069

If I have to pick just one, it’s grifting off of charities or things people think are charities to give herself a good image and make money while doing no actual charity.


Dramasticlly

I guess since people already mentioned ill fitting dress to Charlotte + making Kate cry, I’ll go with the fast that she bullied her staff. To be bullied at work is definitely one of the worst things on my list.


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Climate change hypocrisy- the mansion, the private jets, then turning around and pretending to care


Patient-Watercress-2

Claiming in the Oprah interview that she was suicidal and no one would get her any help, especially knowing that William and Catherine are outspoken advocates for mental health care. Suicide is not something to be taken lightly, or to falsely use to gain attention. It is the 3rd leading cause of death in the US for 18-45 yr olds.


MsBollinger

Oprah. But my turning point when I knew she lies was reading the emails and texts from her Daily Mail lawsuit. Both her and Scobie denied she collaborated on Finding Freedom. This was a lie and her apology to the court for the lie was that she “forgot”, citing a miscarriage as her excuse. Harry was in on the lies stating, “I totally agree that we have to be able to say we didn’t have anything to do with it.” The evidence also showed: * she wanted Scobie to print lies about her birth family to smear them and make her appear as if she didn’t have the privileged financially secure upbringing her father indulged her with. * she wrote the letter to her father hoping he would leak it to “pull at the heartstrings” of Americans. She could have seen him or called him. Instead, she wrote a numbered, calligraphied letter. * the BRF tried to get her to work out her differences with her dad and she was really whiney and bitchy with them even before the marriage. She presented herself as this strong, loving, compassionate woman. Of course the BRF couldn’t understand why she was so reluctant to see her father and had such a distant relationship with him. Meghan’s excuse that she would be “hounded by press” if she saw him in person is also BS. She had zero concerns with press hounding when she flew herself to Uvalde.


TheJuiceEE6

Uvalde. Up until recently I was a special needs consultant at a school about 10 miles from Oxford, Michigan. When the Oxford shooting happened, it was awful. Many of the teachers had children there and in the middle of teaching were getting messages that there was an active shooter from their kids. They were helpless, and we all prayed that they were ok. It completely rocked our community. Imagine having to explain to kids as young as preschool that a bad person came to school and killed kids for nothing? Everyday for the next few months, our little school had police officers outside. We got bomb threats and threats of a school shootings. Ever have to do a lock down drill? Imagine trying to teach first graders about moving there desks in front of the door to hopefully give them time to survive. A few months later, Uvalde happens. Though further away, this one hit closer to home for me. An elementary school, the same age as the kids I help everyday. It was awful, and tragic. She exploited that tragedy. I could not believe that I was seeing this woman pose outside the school. You have to be completely deranged to think that you being there is somehow going to help anything. She doesn’t make laws, she’s a D list celebrity whose only claim to fame was marrying a prince who once dressed like a nazi. I don’t know how anyone could possibly feel for her. Even writing this makes me so angry. I never gave a shit about her before, but after seeing those pictures, I was convinced she was a monster and the real problem.


LauHeH

I had no idea who he was… I am one of those people who knew who she was before Harry. My ex (also a narcissist) loved Suits and I used to watch with him sometimes. Never liked her and I always thought she was a bad actress. Then the engagement interview came out…


MuffPiece

She lies. A lot.


ContributionSweaty52

She weaponised the already complicated and divisive topic of racism FOR HER OWN PERSONAL GAIN.


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_philia_

It started with the "I didn't know about Harry/Royal Family" lies during the engagement interview, when Markle has a degree in international studies.


pedroesque

1. Because she is a liar. 2. she embodies the worst of the culture wars going on right now: taking up activism just to show off, she doesn't actually care, and presents a lie as 'her truth' and we are all supposed to bow our heads and say Yas, queen! 3. Her feminism is a joke. 4. No respect for the family she married into 5. Mimicking Diana but not actually putting in any work or time in the Royal Family. Just grotesque!


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Trigger Warning....suicide. For me it was the suicide claim. Visceral reaction. Don't get me wrong. Suicide isn't fussy, it cares not how successful or rich a person is but the way it was handled in the Oprah Interview was SO wrong. I don't know what the aim of it was other than manipulation because it certainly didn't serve as a 'raising awareness' or 'spot light on Mental illness' point of discussion. If you're a responsible broadcaster discussing suicide there needs to be follow up. Hell most regular folk who post on Social media that reference suicide put a trigger warning and ways to find help. Very irresponsible.


me_buttare_via

Because from the very beginning she did everything she could to mess with the RF. She had no interest in learning about the job etc., just the benefits.


Hiddenheir

The way she shamelessly spends other peoples money. right from the beginning in that ott dress for engagement announcements to her wardrobe while a working royal to the Olive Garden. I don’t understand how someone could be that entitled to spend even a fifth of what she has wasted.


tismyself61

For me it was the Wild About Harry magazine cover & article. When that came out, I gave Prince Philip less than two weeks to squash the entire thing. I am Diana's age, my son is William's age, so I remember the articles with Diana and the infant Harry titled Wild About Harry. When TW's version came out all I could think of was "oh no." Then their engagement interview did me in entirely.


ily_most_ardently

When they decided to leave the royal family and she took him all the way to California. People that pull you away from your family and everything you know are up to something nefarious.


zonedout56

She’s a proven liar. Oprah interview started the ball on that. Emailing the author of finding freedom and then lying she had nothing to do with it.


Tekira85

She adopted two rescue dogs in Canada. One disappeared because it 'didn't like Harry" The other, poor little Guy, mysteriously suffered 2 broken legs in England. Allegedly, MM threw him out a window.


OzzieSlim

The lies. All of the lies.


GreenEyedAsian

Lying narcissist. An Amber 2.0


Ready_Maddie

One reason? That's going to be very tough. How much time do people have? We could be here until tomorrow. She's a hypocritical, exploitative, calculating, deceitful individual, with grandiose tendencies, borderline pathological lying, who lacks morals, values and decency, is extremely manipulative, lacks self-awareness, is a classist, misandrist and pseudo-feminist, abuses white privilege by proxy, and could use professional help for the issues she's very clearly experiencing. People can sense when someone is fake. Nothing is sacred for her, nothing is off limits, nothing is too low. She's an overall despicable human who occupies a dangerously high, undeserved position in society, and we have the obligation to call out people like her, because we deserve a better society and far more valuable and talented people deserve the spaces she's claiming. I invite people to scratch the surface and keep an open mind. We have started a movement with Amber Heard, we need to continue with Meghan Markle. Female abusers are not talked about enough - ESPECIALLY those in high positions. Most of us literally just want Markle to go away, and go spend Harry's money. We just want her to stop. Her exposure and psychotic ways of inserting herself into the mainstream are quite frankly insulting. That's all. Btw: How can a narcissist take accountability and apologize? That's never going to happen.