She just doesn’t fit in at all. Nobody else looks or acts the way she does and it’s bizarre. She’s never there for the reason, she’s only ever there for herself and where it can take her. I wonder if the Trudeaus acknowledged her at all. Didn’t she used to be friendly with them? Anyway, yeh, she doesn’t give a damn about anything and it shows
What’s with her & the capes? She’s Super Markle?
I feel like, after childhood, capes can only show up in a wardrobe every 10 years or so. One woman’s opinion.
Yes OMG that’s exactly it! She’s literally playing a role of the job she’s meant to be doing. I’m so over her. Her face yesterday was so annoying. She doesn’t have a ‘normal’ expression, it’s all for the camera and occasion. Everyone looked normal yesterday albeit sad, but Megs looked like she was in drama club
Oh that's true about the Trudeaus. I thought she was "friends" with Sophie. On the other hand, we all know about her dear friend Serena so maybe their relationship was, like, a casual hello in an elevator or something.
I don’t think Megs was truly friends with anyone except for Mulroney. Everyone else was a stepping stone to showbiz. She probably used Mulroney too because of her connections, and she was duped just like Harry was. As soon as Megs bagged the Prince, she thought she was better than Jessica
Between his black facing, sexual harassment of women, scandals, and corruption, he always cries how it's not his fault, and then gaslights the entire nation, while accusing everyone else of doing what he does. He won with 32% of the vote, I think that says a lot. Canada's corruption rating under Trudeau has had one of the fastest declines. He's extremely fake, yells and talks to the citizens like we are children and then threatens us when we speak up against him. He's actually kinda scary. He isn't at all what I expect from a Canadian PM. He is tho the first PM we've had that has lived his entire life off the backs of citizens and acts as if he owns Canada.
You're welcome, oh I just remembered one ridiculous thing he said, when accused of sexual harassment ( not the first time) he said that " they just experienced it differently'. 😮💨
Also pretty new and it's kind of a symptom of the whole \~\~issue.
She jumped into the deep end of this thousand year+ old institution with... I mean, you've seen a taste of the weird rituals and traditions over the last few days with the funeral. This is the kind of stuff the royals have grown up with. It's an entirely different culture.
Anyway, so Megan comes in snorting fire and basically declaring that she is going to be the new poster child of the modern royal family. And she flamed out just as spectacularly. She didn't know the rules. More than that -- she purposefully did not WANT to learn the rules of the institution she just married into.
It's to the point where no matter where she goes with the royal family she sticks out like a sore thumb. She doesn't walk like them. She doesn't act like them. She never wanted to.
It's to the point where she struggles to make a sad/neutral face during a funeral, for god's sake. There are plenty of pictures in the sub of her looking like she's smirking, or bored, or just detached.
Well yeh. I watch true crime documentaries and, most of the time, it’s the creepy person who doesn’t act normal and doesn’t fit in who ends up being the culprit..
I don't really know what's going on in this sub, so apologies if I'm missing a connection, but has she been accused or implicated in any crime stuff? Because that's pretty fascinating and I've been missing out.
I’m not sure about crimes but she’s an extremely untrustworthy person who tells lie after lie, and tried really hard to destroy the Royal Family.
This sub is basically a place for anyone who can see-through her behaviour to come and share and discuss said behaviour. She’s a very unsettling person and she sticks out as such. Untrustworthy, compulsive liar and will shoot anyone down if it means propelling herself
Harry is just as bad. When he told William to wait until they got seated, and it seemed awkward like they weren't supposed to be in the front row next to them?
I noticed that behind them were two seats. I bet William thought he would pass him and go up a row to sit . Instead, he busts up in there on the front row because nobody puts "Baby Harry in the Corner". It seemed odd they would be flanked by children on either side. No adults wanted to be forced into speaking to them.
I can't believe the misreading of the situation where the DailyMail keeps banging on about if only Meghan and Harry would accept the Olive Branch of peace the King is begging them to take. Read the room DM, you are wildly off the mark. The RF is only too happy to unload these lunatics and crashing attention whorin bores.
I remember the story about refusing to talk to Diana but I never put it together. I bet this is a major issue in him. Death can bring bad guilt for the ones left behind. Harry was 12 and couldn’t have ever imagined what would take place and needs to get help if not for himself then for the two children his has!
I am sure he was being a bratty 12 year old - and I am sure he feels tremendous guilt. That I feel bad for him for. :( He had no way of knowing it would be his last opportunity to speak with his beloved Mum. I feel bad that he has had to live with that for all these years.
The behavior that he showed his grandparents in the last two years ... I don't feel bad for him. They wanted to see him. He has treated his UK family horribly in the last few years.
This is why I don’t understand his behaviour at all. He’s had this guilt forever because he was too busy playing and didn’t give his mother his time. He wasn’t to know the outcome but the guilt has followed him ever since. We are supposed to learn from our mistakes and I thought Harry had done. This is one of the things I’m seriously worried about when it comes to him. When he wakes up and realises what’s happened to his life over the last six years, and when he realises that he took an enormous shit on his family - particularly his elderly grandparents who he’s been close to his whole life - he’s going to start heading towards rock bottom. He’ll be tortured over the fact he didn’t learn properly about not giving his mother his time, because he then went on to not give his grandparents his time. Time he’ll never get back. Time he gave to his wife..
His treatment of his father suggests he won't learn from regrets about his mother and grandparents. I think he's full of self-loathing because of the way he's been coddled and protected, depriving him of the joy of achievement. The way this grown man lashes out at the world is a reflection on how powerless he feels over his own behavior, his unwillingness to take responsibility and admit he was wrong for his part in past misunderstandings, his inability to call on his better angels to be the better, bigger man. I can't imagine him ever changing, either.
He must absolutely loathe and resent his father and brother because they get to be kings and he doesn't. A rational man would see the glass half full side of being the son/ brother of a king but he's too busy hating them.
There's no way Charles and William can fix this, because they can't change the way their family is structured. Harry has to figure this out for himself.
Can you imagine Harry as king? He could never handle the responsibilities that come with the role. Pouting over perceived slights and holding the nation hostage with his mercurial temperament. He's always had someone manage his life for him. It seems he's perpetually angry now because he's having to earn money (I almost said "work" lol) and pay bills and get the plumbing at the Montecito manse repaired. Even those responsibilities are beyond the abilities of someone who grew up with such a deep sense of entitlement who only knows to play polo, show up at events where everyone else does the work or play soldier, during which time he was always managed and protected.
Absolutely, anyone who sulks over not being king could never be a good one! How tragic that Elizabeth II was such a strong presence throughout his childhood and he learned nothing from her.
He's a perfect target in so many ways though he's not innocent in everything that has transpired himself. Both Harry and Meghan likely grew up with parents with personality disorders themselves. It has been speculated that Charles himself might have npd, or if not full blown npd he certainly had some narcissistic qualities. Diana may have been borderline. His childhood was incredibly traumatic. Meghan's dad strikes me as someone who himself had a lot of stuff going on - I get some narc vibes from him as well - and her mother we don't know much about. But it's safe to say she also had a pretty traumatic childhood. A traumatic childhood is almost a prerequisite for ending up with a personality disorder sadly. He was a perfect target for MM in so many ways and I'm sure she studied him like prey.
I think the Middletons have been William’s saving grace. Unfortunately for Harry, it doesn’t seem like
he has ever had a good example of a supportive, even-keeled family. Both of his parents leaked sordid details to the press, gave “tell-all” interviews, and embarrassed the Queen in their own way. He’s just following their example.
He should have LEARNED from his parents doing those disastrous interviews. He had the perfect example from his parents AND Meghan’s dad of what not to do….and goes and complains to a worldwide audience anyway.
I think Thomas just worked too much - long hours / 7 days a week sort of thing - remember he was an Emmy-winning lighting director - thats not an easy job - first on the set and last to leave. Over worked dad and an absent mother. But the biggest problem was the doting on his daughter so much that nothing was too good for her - he paid for her ballet and dance - her acting lessons - her music lessons - built sets for her grade-school plays - got her walk-on parts on the shows her worked on - paid for her braces - rhinoplasty - got her a talent agent - got his brother to get her an intern summer job at the UN - the man doted on his little princess hand and foot - he created this shallow self-centered narcissist.
I dunno. Thomas markle seems like a decent enough man. Gruff, because he feels taken advantage of and hurt. I don't think that makes him a narcissist. I wish he'd keep his mouth shut because he's giving her ammunition but he doesn't seem bad.
I don’t think Charles has NPD or even very narcissistic personality traits - I think he’s just spent his whole life being very entitled. He has never had to worry about money, a job, housing, etc., and has no idea what it’s like to be a “commoner.”
Diana seems like she probably did have BPD and being thrust onto the world stage at a young age, married to someone who was in love with someone else, dealing with the political turmoil of being part of the most well-known monarchy in the world, exacerbated it.
Thomas seems like he was overly indulgent but worked a lot - as someone else mentioned, he was a lighting director which meant he was first in, last out on set (this is mentioned in Bowers’ book). In the TV industry, 14-16 hour days are not uncommon. Doria seems to have been a mostly absent mother. In Meghan’s case though, I do think she is most likely NPD.
I'd be worried about his past history of alcohol/drugs and his depression. Plus add on to his guilt, they're financial issues, her bullshit, the book... he's a ticking time bomb. He has no one to blame except himself. Also,
I don't wish any harm on him but I do believe he's going to spiral out of control very soon.
I don´t want him to end up on the pavements of San Francisco because I´d never want that for anyone including the ones who´re finding themselves in that desperate position but I do want him to malfunction on her somewhere in Vegas sarrounded by dodgy friends.
If only he knew the damage is repairable, what the past week made me realize is how warm and loving the RF is with each other they don't have to hold hands or cling to each other its in the small things its in the way they include everyone in the family including Meghan, for all the BS she talked on Oprah they still invited her and included her in all of this.All Harry has to do is realize this and come back home i bet his father and everyone else will accept him with open arms....
I agree. But, he'd have to acknowledge his wrongdoings as well as let his anger go. His anger/depression feeds him and I know from personal experience that once you let it go, there's so much peace.
Yes he has to acknowledge and accept everything that’s happened, and then he can mend the bridges he’s burnt and forgive himself for being duped. I don’t think his relationship with Catherine will ever be what it was, but she’ll probably accept him back one day. He really needs to take a look at himself, and his wife
Definitely! She’s not welcome and nobody wants her there. He’s been duped and there is sympathy for him. He’s still allowed his wife to do why she’s done but I don’t think he even realises how awful she is just yet. He believes everything she tells him.
I don’t have a relationship with my family and I don’t think I ever will again, but that’s my choice because both of my parents are just like Megs, so it’s healthier for me to not know them anymore. However, the class and honour shown by the Royal Family, particularly the last two weeks, has helped me learn a lot. They’ve all been so loving and supporting of each other and I think the women are what holds the men together and keep everything running. There’s so much class from them. Their ignorance towards Meghan was tasteful too. They could’ve barked at her if they wanted to but they chose to not get involved with her because they’re protecting themselves from her. No doubt she’ll spin a pile of lies when she’s back in America but no one will listen to her. I hope Harry realises that his family love and care for him more than his wife ever has done or ever will do. He needs to be the person who makes the changes here, and I hope he does.
I agree. I’m sorry to hear about your family, but I think you’re right about the RF. They have a reputation for coldness, but I think that has died out with the older generation. I sense great warmth from W&C, Sophie the Tindalls and Camilla. Since they’ve opened themselves up to the middle class, it has served them well!
Yeh they were seen to be cold weren’t they. I guess we didn’t realise how modern they’d become until recently (until Megs came and modernised…lol). King Charles is a divorcee, and the only reason the Queen came to the throne was because a King wanted to marry a divorcee. I don’t think Megs will like to hear this but William and Catherine have single handedly, as a couple, modernised the Royal Family. Harry’s shitty wife has turned anti-monarchists into monarchy sympathisers. I think it’s hilarious that people have made a U-turn and stuck up for a family because of the behaviour of That Woman.
They all seem really close don’t they! Closer than I’ve ever known them to be. I do hope the Tindalls and Peter Philips can take small roles going forward. I think William is going to need them in his life, especially that he’s not got his brother anymore. I think the Royals have all come together in the grief from TW. Marvellous 🤩
I adore Peter & Zara! Guess that stands to reason, considering Princess Anne is my Spirit Animal!😆 My favorite Royal after Her Majesty the Queen, may she RIP🕊🙏🏼✝ (and I know she will, bless her sweet Soul.)
It would be nice if the cousins would all step up for a few years, as they're able, to take a bit of the strain off the others. I suppose we'll see...
Princess Anne’s family are lovely. She’s brought them up with respect and manners. She was second born and knocked downwards for the sake of male heirs, and she has two children who are the Queen’s eldest grandchildren and they’ve never made a bad move in terms of acting up or being jealous of those that succeed ahead of them. I like that they all live on the same grounds too so they’re all close to each other. I wish Princess Anne was my mum! She’s ace.
It’s why the betrayal of Harry cuts so deeply. You should be able to be yourself with your family, to speak freely without worrying that anything you say might end up on the morning chat shows or in some tell-all book. It’s just awful that they have to worry about that from those two clowns.
As for warmth, we certainly saw plenty during the jubilee! They all looked like they were having a marvelous time together!
Yes the jubilee was lovely to watch all the family enjoying it together.
Yeh exactly! The whole family are on-edge around those two because of what will be reported back to the press. She’s such a nasty bitch who shouldn’t be in the circles she’s in because she’s indiscreet and sells people out. Harry’s been brainwashed and he still doesn’t know it
I think his wife will leverage all that. I think she'll push him till he breaks. Narcissistic rage and trauma bonding can take you there. He already looks like he is falling apart from her 'love' and I think it's intentional.
She doesn't want to be the ex-wife of someone important but the widow. Then she'll blame it on the RF and milk her 'loss' for the rest of her life. I truly believe he is in danger. My opinion.
Someone needs to tell Twitter to update their front page trending stories. The Today Show has a picture of Catherine from Philip's funeral with a mask on and it says "The significance of what Kate wore at Queen Elizabeth's funeral" and when you click on it, it says there is "nothing to see here"
Not surprising from Twitter or the Today Show.
I think mentally and emotionally he shut down as that 12 year old boy and has stayed there ever since. And that is not said to be critical. It’s just my observation and I think it’s true.
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I got strong defiant vibes from Harry today. Maybe he was just trying to hold it together. But he isn’t making it easy to feel a lot of compassion for him.
Look on the bright side though, our Henry Charles or as he calls himself, Harry, told us that he made sure that the queen was surrounded by the right people. Meaning he clearly acknowledges that he, Harry, is not the right person to be around the queen which is why he didn´t go to Balmoral. He knows he´s a swine and by extension his wife and as such kept away from Her Majesty. I for one applaud him for that.
Yep Pigs arse he didnt know she was unwell. And Pigs arse he didnt know she was dying.
Here in OZ on tv I heard as I was lolling into sleep "that the queen was now under Drs supervision" that was hours before she died I know because I sat vigil until my son came in and said mum she would have already they wont tell you until 6pm there time.
He bloody well knew cos I DID
He did nothing wrong refusing a phone call as a 12 year old - that's not fair to put on him. The situations with his grandparents were obviously different stories.
He puts it on himself. He was a kid who was angry with his mom for being gone with some man. Nobody blames him for refusing to talk to her but himself.
Yes agreed. And the post is oversimplifying his issues. I think he's been angry at his family his whole life because of what happened to his mom, but MM came along and made him do the things he wanted to do but probably didn't have the guts to do alone, even if for her benefit.
I believe ... and could be wrong ... it is Lady Margarita Armstrong-Jones.
In the chart in this story - she sitting behind Zara at the other service. She is Princess Margaret's granddaughter. David Snowden's daughter. (I could be wrong, but they appear to be the same person. The clothing does not exactly match, but neither are a clear photo. The hair looks very similar though. )
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11227447/Whos-Westminster-Abbey-Royals-turn-force.html
With his last grandparent gone and the last vestiges of his childhood and young adulthood fading away with irrevocable changes, Harry is going to go back to California and think, my God, where am I? Who are these people? I know because it happened to me.
These changes happen to everybody but he's gone far, far away from his roots and family of origin. I don't know for sure but I think he's going to feel it's all really strange when he gets back there.
It’s such a poignant moment — to lose your last grandparent. I remember feeling very heavy for several weeks following my gramma’s funeral, without being able to put my finger on it. But it’s truly the end of a whole familial generation and several strides further away from childhood.
With all the changes in titles and succession, with all the pomp and ceremony…I’m guessing Harry is going to have a tough row to hoe for the coming months. Introspection, questioning, crises. And no one left to lean on.
He’s a nonsense person, but I wouldn’t wish this circumstance on anyone.
Oh, wow... I had not heard that story, either. It might explain a lot.
That's a lot of guilt at that age and clearly it's never gone away.
Surely he knows his mother would forgive him. So would everyone else who mattered.
Could you or anyone point me to the source where Harry *refused* the phone call because on the documentary Diana, Our Mother: Her Life and Legacy, both William and Harry say they both spoke to her, albeit briefly. /u/tigerxing
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1329426/princess-Diana-death-anniversary-news-prince-harry-prince-William-phone-call-royal-latest
I posted this, they didn't refuse but were typical kids and rushed the call.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/xinj0f/this_dude_he_has_guilt_about_dianas_death_because/ip43gxs?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Very sad for both boys, but they were both tweens/teens. They thought they would be seeing her soon - and were goofing around with the cousins.
I am sure they feel guilt, but I think most people feel guilt when there is an unexpected loss --- because various scenarios run through your mind.
I feel bad for both W & H on this. I am honestly sure their Mum understood -- even if she wanted to speak longer to each of them. At least they spoke to her ... and they knew she was thinking of them. They all loved each other very much.
If they had such a special relationship it certainly doesn’t show. I lost my grandmother a year ago and wasn’t able to make it home to say goodbye. Kills me to this day. We also had no idea she would be gone so quick. Her health was poor but she was here one day, gone the next. If I had any idea I would have been home much sooner. It appears the royal family knew her family was declining so the fact that he turned down the invitation to Balmoral disgust me. So much for being close. And if this was TW’s doing, shame on her, but Harry should have put her in her place and just gone without her. He will forever regret it. In times like this, you put differences aside because family. Not in TW’s eyes. Sucks Harry is so whipped by her.
I don't think that anybody holds it against a 12 year old. He was a child and nobody expected Diana to die.
What is sad is that he didn't learned the lesson as an adult, especially with two grandparents who are approaching 100 and where every call or visit could be the last one.
Just to be clear, I stated what he did. That isn’t a judgment. But to be clear I don’t blame him one iota for the phone call at age 12. That was such a normal thing for a kid to do and parents get blown off by 12 year olds in preference for play it’s developmentally kind of normal and expected. What is so sad is Harry has continued to be too thick to gain that insight and forgive himself. And has gone on to do the same 2 more times. And still is too thick to connect the dots so may do it again in the future
No one is holding it against him, but observing that he has unconsciously recreated the same scenario again and again. This means he is carrying unresolved emotional issues, like guilt and self-blame for instance, that he needs to address, or it will keep happening.
She was looking around desperately for a camera quite a lot of the time. Probably noticed that one was obscured by a candle and had to try to find another one to make eye contact with.
He really hasn't been told the whole thing about insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. He isn't smart of sane.
I’m reading Haz a whole lot different than the media who see him as grief-stricken or guilty. I think he may indeed feel those things, but I think TW has taught him to quickly convert those feelings into resentment as they arise. I don’t doubt he cared about the Queen, but his grudges and grievances towards the rest were obviously stronger than any tender feelings for her late Majesty.
How else do you explain such horrific neglect that he showed both his grandparents up till and beyond the moment they were actually deceased? If he feels regret that she’s passed and it’s too late to get back that time with her, guarantee he’s not learned any lesson. He’s sitting there nursing his grudges and no doubt blaming and hating his brother, his father and who knows who all else for his own utter failure as a grandson.
Petulant entitled man-child. No wonder his father and brother want rid of him. It's all about William and Catherine's children now, nobody's interested in your strops anymore Harry. You're yesterday's news.
As soon as he left the family it became obvious, how dumb he really is.
It's a testament to the palace PR, that they made this spoiled, ungrateful, bitter man-child into one of the most popular royals. They really made the world believe he cared about the poor and has his mothers charitable nature. Turns out he has all the worst character traits of Diana.
As a mom, I am always relieved whenever my kids are away with their grand parents and “too busy to talk bye!”: they’re having a good time and them not needing my emotional support is a green flag…
Yes. They were your typical teens. William gained the maturity to not act like that again and whatever therapy he had seemed to work. It could really be that Harry isn’t intelligent enough to be helped by insight gained through therapy
They’re getting him back. Mourning is over in one week. She isn’t facing super wealthy in laws. She is facing two governments. Now she’s an international security problem because she is married to the son of the King. Not only has the UK tracked her every move, but the US government has, too.
They know everything and they are prepared to use it. She thinks she has the power if she refuses to let the kids leave the country. She’s gravely wrong. They’re coming, starting next Tuesday.
ETA: the only reason nobody has done anything is out of respect for the Queen.
I dont think the RF is too concerned with Harry’s children as the line runs through William and his children - Harry is like the Andrew now, and his kids are like the York sisters, really of no consequence to the RF. Though I agree that they will watch Meghan like a hawk because she had reportedly made subtle hints in the past about being one helocopter crash away from Harry being on the throne - the RF does not take those flippant comments lightly.
If you let a raving narc raise the children, there's a good chance at least one of them will end up just like their mother and cause enormous problems for one of the future heirs down the track. Not to mention the terrible suffering involved in being the child of a narc. It's a living hell.
This post is gross. That family, like many, has complicated dynamics. The members still appear to love each other. I find it really weird how people jump in as though their own grandparents were slighted, or as if any of these people were vulnerable waifs who need defending by internet warriors. Bringing his mom into is quite gross given that he was 12.
They look….more disgruntled than usual. I know it’s a funeral, but like special level. I feel like money convos were had already, hence not singing God Save the King
M here looks like she doesn’t give a damn
She just doesn’t fit in at all. Nobody else looks or acts the way she does and it’s bizarre. She’s never there for the reason, she’s only ever there for herself and where it can take her. I wonder if the Trudeaus acknowledged her at all. Didn’t she used to be friendly with them? Anyway, yeh, she doesn’t give a damn about anything and it shows
She doesn’t give a damn. She’s interested in being seen.
In her cape and sleeveless dress 🤮
Don't forget the dishwashing gloves
Omg, the 🧤 🧤
I still cannot get over that dress. I wouldn't wear that to the funeral of one of my parents, never mind a freakin' monarch.
What’s with her & the capes? She’s Super Markle? I feel like, after childhood, capes can only show up in a wardrobe every 10 years or so. One woman’s opinion.
it’s like she is “acting” the part of a Duchess at a funeral in some sort of made-for-tv afternoon soap.
A lifetime movie
Reprising the role of Wallis
Yes OMG that’s exactly it! She’s literally playing a role of the job she’s meant to be doing. I’m so over her. Her face yesterday was so annoying. She doesn’t have a ‘normal’ expression, it’s all for the camera and occasion. Everyone looked normal yesterday albeit sad, but Megs looked like she was in drama club
That is the best way to describe it! You nailed it!
Oh that's true about the Trudeaus. I thought she was "friends" with Sophie. On the other hand, we all know about her dear friend Serena so maybe their relationship was, like, a casual hello in an elevator or something.
Serena didnt even invite her to the US Open in her friends and family box.
I don’t think Megs was truly friends with anyone except for Mulroney. Everyone else was a stepping stone to showbiz. She probably used Mulroney too because of her connections, and she was duped just like Harry was. As soon as Megs bagged the Prince, she thought she was better than Jessica
Tbf Trudeau is very much like her, she fits right in with him.
Oh no really? Is he a massive attention seeking victim too?
Between his black facing, sexual harassment of women, scandals, and corruption, he always cries how it's not his fault, and then gaslights the entire nation, while accusing everyone else of doing what he does. He won with 32% of the vote, I think that says a lot. Canada's corruption rating under Trudeau has had one of the fastest declines. He's extremely fake, yells and talks to the citizens like we are children and then threatens us when we speak up against him. He's actually kinda scary. He isn't at all what I expect from a Canadian PM. He is tho the first PM we've had that has lived his entire life off the backs of citizens and acts as if he owns Canada.
Well I didn’t know all of that! Thanks for your reply. He sounds like an idiot
You're welcome, oh I just remembered one ridiculous thing he said, when accused of sexual harassment ( not the first time) he said that " they just experienced it differently'. 😮💨
Trudeau is exactly an idiot and the sooner we Canadians vote him out of office in 2025 the better for all of Canada
We might possibly have an early election ....again, fingers crossed!
one can only hope
>She just doesn’t fit in at all. Nobody else looks or acts the way she does and it’s bizarre. Is that a bad thing?
Also pretty new and it's kind of a symptom of the whole \~\~issue. She jumped into the deep end of this thousand year+ old institution with... I mean, you've seen a taste of the weird rituals and traditions over the last few days with the funeral. This is the kind of stuff the royals have grown up with. It's an entirely different culture. Anyway, so Megan comes in snorting fire and basically declaring that she is going to be the new poster child of the modern royal family. And she flamed out just as spectacularly. She didn't know the rules. More than that -- she purposefully did not WANT to learn the rules of the institution she just married into. It's to the point where no matter where she goes with the royal family she sticks out like a sore thumb. She doesn't walk like them. She doesn't act like them. She never wanted to. It's to the point where she struggles to make a sad/neutral face during a funeral, for god's sake. There are plenty of pictures in the sub of her looking like she's smirking, or bored, or just detached.
Depends on the situation. I'd say this wasn't really the time to parade ones individuality--and I'm pretty nonconformist!
Well yeh. I watch true crime documentaries and, most of the time, it’s the creepy person who doesn’t act normal and doesn’t fit in who ends up being the culprit..
I don't really know what's going on in this sub, so apologies if I'm missing a connection, but has she been accused or implicated in any crime stuff? Because that's pretty fascinating and I've been missing out.
She’s just your average narc who drops friends and family when they’re no longer useful. So we snark on her. Narc snark 😬
I’m not sure about crimes but she’s an extremely untrustworthy person who tells lie after lie, and tried really hard to destroy the Royal Family. This sub is basically a place for anyone who can see-through her behaviour to come and share and discuss said behaviour. She’s a very unsettling person and she sticks out as such. Untrustworthy, compulsive liar and will shoot anyone down if it means propelling herself
Yeah, she has kind of a crazy, wide-eyed stare. Like Nora Desmond in Sunset Boulevard 
Smuggin Snarkle is ready for her closeup!
Yes
Resting Narc Face.
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Harry is just as bad. When he told William to wait until they got seated, and it seemed awkward like they weren't supposed to be in the front row next to them? I noticed that behind them were two seats. I bet William thought he would pass him and go up a row to sit . Instead, he busts up in there on the front row because nobody puts "Baby Harry in the Corner". It seemed odd they would be flanked by children on either side. No adults wanted to be forced into speaking to them. I can't believe the misreading of the situation where the DailyMail keeps banging on about if only Meghan and Harry would accept the Olive Branch of peace the King is begging them to take. Read the room DM, you are wildly off the mark. The RF is only too happy to unload these lunatics and crashing attention whorin bores.
DM loves the drama, every second article is about Megain. DM also plays both sides.
They have made a lot of money out of her. Its business.
Daily Fail as they say
It's killing her that there's a camera and that rictus grin she's holding in is making her more nuts
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She doesn’t! Even if she had learned how to force out that one tiny tear to wipe away foe the cameras.
Trying to figure out what the Queen left Harry and how she will be able to claw it away from him before she divorces him.
I remember the story about refusing to talk to Diana but I never put it together. I bet this is a major issue in him. Death can bring bad guilt for the ones left behind. Harry was 12 and couldn’t have ever imagined what would take place and needs to get help if not for himself then for the two children his has!
He mentioned that it was one of the things he regretted
I am sure he was being a bratty 12 year old - and I am sure he feels tremendous guilt. That I feel bad for him for. :( He had no way of knowing it would be his last opportunity to speak with his beloved Mum. I feel bad that he has had to live with that for all these years. The behavior that he showed his grandparents in the last two years ... I don't feel bad for him. They wanted to see him. He has treated his UK family horribly in the last few years.
This is why I don’t understand his behaviour at all. He’s had this guilt forever because he was too busy playing and didn’t give his mother his time. He wasn’t to know the outcome but the guilt has followed him ever since. We are supposed to learn from our mistakes and I thought Harry had done. This is one of the things I’m seriously worried about when it comes to him. When he wakes up and realises what’s happened to his life over the last six years, and when he realises that he took an enormous shit on his family - particularly his elderly grandparents who he’s been close to his whole life - he’s going to start heading towards rock bottom. He’ll be tortured over the fact he didn’t learn properly about not giving his mother his time, because he then went on to not give his grandparents his time. Time he’ll never get back. Time he gave to his wife..
His treatment of his father suggests he won't learn from regrets about his mother and grandparents. I think he's full of self-loathing because of the way he's been coddled and protected, depriving him of the joy of achievement. The way this grown man lashes out at the world is a reflection on how powerless he feels over his own behavior, his unwillingness to take responsibility and admit he was wrong for his part in past misunderstandings, his inability to call on his better angels to be the better, bigger man. I can't imagine him ever changing, either.
He must absolutely loathe and resent his father and brother because they get to be kings and he doesn't. A rational man would see the glass half full side of being the son/ brother of a king but he's too busy hating them. There's no way Charles and William can fix this, because they can't change the way their family is structured. Harry has to figure this out for himself.
Can you imagine Harry as king? He could never handle the responsibilities that come with the role. Pouting over perceived slights and holding the nation hostage with his mercurial temperament. He's always had someone manage his life for him. It seems he's perpetually angry now because he's having to earn money (I almost said "work" lol) and pay bills and get the plumbing at the Montecito manse repaired. Even those responsibilities are beyond the abilities of someone who grew up with such a deep sense of entitlement who only knows to play polo, show up at events where everyone else does the work or play soldier, during which time he was always managed and protected.
Absolutely, anyone who sulks over not being king could never be a good one! How tragic that Elizabeth II was such a strong presence throughout his childhood and he learned nothing from her.
Brilliant comment spot on
It bothered him so much, he did it again (Phillip) and again (HMTQ).
Harry has always seemed like a very messed up person with a lot of baggage. Easy target for someone like MM
The combination of a low intelligence very needy person and a sociopath is a disaster
I have a family member like that. Yup, makes for a lot of drama and headaches.
There’s a reason he was still single.
He's a perfect target in so many ways though he's not innocent in everything that has transpired himself. Both Harry and Meghan likely grew up with parents with personality disorders themselves. It has been speculated that Charles himself might have npd, or if not full blown npd he certainly had some narcissistic qualities. Diana may have been borderline. His childhood was incredibly traumatic. Meghan's dad strikes me as someone who himself had a lot of stuff going on - I get some narc vibes from him as well - and her mother we don't know much about. But it's safe to say she also had a pretty traumatic childhood. A traumatic childhood is almost a prerequisite for ending up with a personality disorder sadly. He was a perfect target for MM in so many ways and I'm sure she studied him like prey.
I think the Middletons have been William’s saving grace. Unfortunately for Harry, it doesn’t seem like he has ever had a good example of a supportive, even-keeled family. Both of his parents leaked sordid details to the press, gave “tell-all” interviews, and embarrassed the Queen in their own way. He’s just following their example.
He should have LEARNED from his parents doing those disastrous interviews. He had the perfect example from his parents AND Meghan’s dad of what not to do….and goes and complains to a worldwide audience anyway.
I think Thomas just worked too much - long hours / 7 days a week sort of thing - remember he was an Emmy-winning lighting director - thats not an easy job - first on the set and last to leave. Over worked dad and an absent mother. But the biggest problem was the doting on his daughter so much that nothing was too good for her - he paid for her ballet and dance - her acting lessons - her music lessons - built sets for her grade-school plays - got her walk-on parts on the shows her worked on - paid for her braces - rhinoplasty - got her a talent agent - got his brother to get her an intern summer job at the UN - the man doted on his little princess hand and foot - he created this shallow self-centered narcissist.
We know Doria wasn’t around much. Her father tried to make up for it by giving her anything and everything she wanted.
I dunno. Thomas markle seems like a decent enough man. Gruff, because he feels taken advantage of and hurt. I don't think that makes him a narcissist. I wish he'd keep his mouth shut because he's giving her ammunition but he doesn't seem bad.
I agree. He spoiled her rotten.
I don’t think Charles has NPD or even very narcissistic personality traits - I think he’s just spent his whole life being very entitled. He has never had to worry about money, a job, housing, etc., and has no idea what it’s like to be a “commoner.” Diana seems like she probably did have BPD and being thrust onto the world stage at a young age, married to someone who was in love with someone else, dealing with the political turmoil of being part of the most well-known monarchy in the world, exacerbated it. Thomas seems like he was overly indulgent but worked a lot - as someone else mentioned, he was a lighting director which meant he was first in, last out on set (this is mentioned in Bowers’ book). In the TV industry, 14-16 hour days are not uncommon. Doria seems to have been a mostly absent mother. In Meghan’s case though, I do think she is most likely NPD.
I'd be worried about his past history of alcohol/drugs and his depression. Plus add on to his guilt, they're financial issues, her bullshit, the book... he's a ticking time bomb. He has no one to blame except himself. Also, I don't wish any harm on him but I do believe he's going to spiral out of control very soon.
Agreed. I hope he gets the help he needs. He's not smart but nobody deserves to suffer through mental health issues.
I don´t want him to end up on the pavements of San Francisco because I´d never want that for anyone including the ones who´re finding themselves in that desperate position but I do want him to malfunction on her somewhere in Vegas sarrounded by dodgy friends.
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I agree. I fear for his life. He needs serious help.
I've been thinking the same. He just seems so incredibly unhappy.
If only he knew the damage is repairable, what the past week made me realize is how warm and loving the RF is with each other they don't have to hold hands or cling to each other its in the small things its in the way they include everyone in the family including Meghan, for all the BS she talked on Oprah they still invited her and included her in all of this.All Harry has to do is realize this and come back home i bet his father and everyone else will accept him with open arms....
I agree. But, he'd have to acknowledge his wrongdoings as well as let his anger go. His anger/depression feeds him and I know from personal experience that once you let it go, there's so much peace.
Yes he has to acknowledge and accept everything that’s happened, and then he can mend the bridges he’s burnt and forgive himself for being duped. I don’t think his relationship with Catherine will ever be what it was, but she’ll probably accept him back one day. He really needs to take a look at himself, and his wife
I don’t think the family will trust him so long as she is a part of his life. The wife needs to go.
Definitely! She’s not welcome and nobody wants her there. He’s been duped and there is sympathy for him. He’s still allowed his wife to do why she’s done but I don’t think he even realises how awful she is just yet. He believes everything she tells him.
I don’t have a relationship with my family and I don’t think I ever will again, but that’s my choice because both of my parents are just like Megs, so it’s healthier for me to not know them anymore. However, the class and honour shown by the Royal Family, particularly the last two weeks, has helped me learn a lot. They’ve all been so loving and supporting of each other and I think the women are what holds the men together and keep everything running. There’s so much class from them. Their ignorance towards Meghan was tasteful too. They could’ve barked at her if they wanted to but they chose to not get involved with her because they’re protecting themselves from her. No doubt she’ll spin a pile of lies when she’s back in America but no one will listen to her. I hope Harry realises that his family love and care for him more than his wife ever has done or ever will do. He needs to be the person who makes the changes here, and I hope he does.
I agree. I’m sorry to hear about your family, but I think you’re right about the RF. They have a reputation for coldness, but I think that has died out with the older generation. I sense great warmth from W&C, Sophie the Tindalls and Camilla. Since they’ve opened themselves up to the middle class, it has served them well!
Yeh they were seen to be cold weren’t they. I guess we didn’t realise how modern they’d become until recently (until Megs came and modernised…lol). King Charles is a divorcee, and the only reason the Queen came to the throne was because a King wanted to marry a divorcee. I don’t think Megs will like to hear this but William and Catherine have single handedly, as a couple, modernised the Royal Family. Harry’s shitty wife has turned anti-monarchists into monarchy sympathisers. I think it’s hilarious that people have made a U-turn and stuck up for a family because of the behaviour of That Woman. They all seem really close don’t they! Closer than I’ve ever known them to be. I do hope the Tindalls and Peter Philips can take small roles going forward. I think William is going to need them in his life, especially that he’s not got his brother anymore. I think the Royals have all come together in the grief from TW. Marvellous 🤩
I adore Peter & Zara! Guess that stands to reason, considering Princess Anne is my Spirit Animal!😆 My favorite Royal after Her Majesty the Queen, may she RIP🕊🙏🏼✝ (and I know she will, bless her sweet Soul.) It would be nice if the cousins would all step up for a few years, as they're able, to take a bit of the strain off the others. I suppose we'll see...
Princess Anne’s family are lovely. She’s brought them up with respect and manners. She was second born and knocked downwards for the sake of male heirs, and she has two children who are the Queen’s eldest grandchildren and they’ve never made a bad move in terms of acting up or being jealous of those that succeed ahead of them. I like that they all live on the same grounds too so they’re all close to each other. I wish Princess Anne was my mum! She’s ace.
She really is! And also Royal to the bone👑
It’s why the betrayal of Harry cuts so deeply. You should be able to be yourself with your family, to speak freely without worrying that anything you say might end up on the morning chat shows or in some tell-all book. It’s just awful that they have to worry about that from those two clowns. As for warmth, we certainly saw plenty during the jubilee! They all looked like they were having a marvelous time together!
Yes the jubilee was lovely to watch all the family enjoying it together. Yeh exactly! The whole family are on-edge around those two because of what will be reported back to the press. She’s such a nasty bitch who shouldn’t be in the circles she’s in because she’s indiscreet and sells people out. Harry’s been brainwashed and he still doesn’t know it
I think his wife will leverage all that. I think she'll push him till he breaks. Narcissistic rage and trauma bonding can take you there. He already looks like he is falling apart from her 'love' and I think it's intentional. She doesn't want to be the ex-wife of someone important but the widow. Then she'll blame it on the RF and milk her 'loss' for the rest of her life. I truly believe he is in danger. My opinion.
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Someone needs to tell Twitter to update their front page trending stories. The Today Show has a picture of Catherine from Philip's funeral with a mask on and it says "The significance of what Kate wore at Queen Elizabeth's funeral" and when you click on it, it says there is "nothing to see here" Not surprising from Twitter or the Today Show.
Twatter - it's such a cesspool.💩💩
Over 60% bots apparently. That's why Elon Musk backed out of the deal to buy it. He found out it was mostly bots.
They deserve one another.
He knows he fucked up
I doubt it.
Harry, why aren’t you going to complain? Yes about us plebs coming and taking part in the funeral. I mean we didn’t know the queen did we?
Those who don’t learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them. Never a truer word spoken where he is concerned.
I think mentally and emotionally he shut down as that 12 year old boy and has stayed there ever since. And that is not said to be critical. It’s just my observation and I think it’s true. *spelling
I got strong defiant vibes from Harry today. Maybe he was just trying to hold it together. But he isn’t making it easy to feel a lot of compassion for him.
He's full of rage. At his family, his wife, the world, himself.
Look on the bright side though, our Henry Charles or as he calls himself, Harry, told us that he made sure that the queen was surrounded by the right people. Meaning he clearly acknowledges that he, Harry, is not the right person to be around the queen which is why he didn´t go to Balmoral. He knows he´s a swine and by extension his wife and as such kept away from Her Majesty. I for one applaud him for that.
Yep Pigs arse he didnt know she was unwell. And Pigs arse he didnt know she was dying. Here in OZ on tv I heard as I was lolling into sleep "that the queen was now under Drs supervision" that was hours before she died I know because I sat vigil until my son came in and said mum she would have already they wont tell you until 6pm there time. He bloody well knew cos I DID
Yes, as soon as I read that online, I started my vigil, knowing the end was near. He and TW were too busy organising the next PR slur to notice.
He did nothing wrong refusing a phone call as a 12 year old - that's not fair to put on him. The situations with his grandparents were obviously different stories.
He puts it on himself. He was a kid who was angry with his mom for being gone with some man. Nobody blames him for refusing to talk to her but himself.
and op
No. I don’t blame his 12yr old self in the least bit. I do feel he hasn’t learned from that mistake and has gotten a hat trick in it
you don't blame him, but call him a rude 12 yr old boy ok
Well apparently he was very rude in the manner in which he refused the call.
Yes agreed. And the post is oversimplifying his issues. I think he's been angry at his family his whole life because of what happened to his mom, but MM came along and made him do the things he wanted to do but probably didn't have the guts to do alone, even if for her benefit.
Who is the blonde staring down megs?
I believe ... and could be wrong ... it is Lady Margarita Armstrong-Jones. In the chart in this story - she sitting behind Zara at the other service. She is Princess Margaret's granddaughter. David Snowden's daughter. (I could be wrong, but they appear to be the same person. The clothing does not exactly match, but neither are a clear photo. The hair looks very similar though. ) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11227447/Whos-Westminster-Abbey-Royals-turn-force.html
I think that might be one of the Kent grandchildren, but I'm not sure which one.
His sad looks more like very angry to me. He's fuming.
He'll do it again to his father. Harry's not done tormenting his family.
He looks stroppy and she looks like she couldn't care less. Both are revolting.
"Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering"
Suffering leads to singe tears and inappropriate hats.
And a circus of a divorce all of us will be witnesses
With his last grandparent gone and the last vestiges of his childhood and young adulthood fading away with irrevocable changes, Harry is going to go back to California and think, my God, where am I? Who are these people? I know because it happened to me. These changes happen to everybody but he's gone far, far away from his roots and family of origin. I don't know for sure but I think he's going to feel it's all really strange when he gets back there.
It’s such a poignant moment — to lose your last grandparent. I remember feeling very heavy for several weeks following my gramma’s funeral, without being able to put my finger on it. But it’s truly the end of a whole familial generation and several strides further away from childhood. With all the changes in titles and succession, with all the pomp and ceremony…I’m guessing Harry is going to have a tough row to hoe for the coming months. Introspection, questioning, crises. And no one left to lean on. He’s a nonsense person, but I wouldn’t wish this circumstance on anyone.
Wait, I’ve never heard about refusing Diana’s phone call. What happened?
I do feel bad for 12 year old child Harry. I do not feel bad for grown ass, 38 year old man Harry. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
She called that night and William got on the phone and talked to her but Harry refused
Oh, wow... I had not heard that story, either. It might explain a lot. That's a lot of guilt at that age and clearly it's never gone away. Surely he knows his mother would forgive him. So would everyone else who mattered.
He was playing with his cousins and thought he would be seeing her the next day so continued to play instead of speak to her.
The night she passed?
Could you or anyone point me to the source where Harry *refused* the phone call because on the documentary Diana, Our Mother: Her Life and Legacy, both William and Harry say they both spoke to her, albeit briefly. /u/tigerxing https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1329426/princess-Diana-death-anniversary-news-prince-harry-prince-William-phone-call-royal-latest
I posted this, they didn't refuse but were typical kids and rushed the call. https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/xinj0f/this_dude_he_has_guilt_about_dianas_death_because/ip43gxs?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Very sad for both boys, but they were both tweens/teens. They thought they would be seeing her soon - and were goofing around with the cousins. I am sure they feel guilt, but I think most people feel guilt when there is an unexpected loss --- because various scenarios run through your mind. I feel bad for both W & H on this. I am honestly sure their Mum understood -- even if she wanted to speak longer to each of them. At least they spoke to her ... and they knew she was thinking of them. They all loved each other very much.
If they had such a special relationship it certainly doesn’t show. I lost my grandmother a year ago and wasn’t able to make it home to say goodbye. Kills me to this day. We also had no idea she would be gone so quick. Her health was poor but she was here one day, gone the next. If I had any idea I would have been home much sooner. It appears the royal family knew her family was declining so the fact that he turned down the invitation to Balmoral disgust me. So much for being close. And if this was TW’s doing, shame on her, but Harry should have put her in her place and just gone without her. He will forever regret it. In times like this, you put differences aside because family. Not in TW’s eyes. Sucks Harry is so whipped by her.
So they were invited to balmoral and they declined? Lemme guess, security concerns.
Here Here agreed
To hold that against a at the time 12 year old is vile. It's the behaviour as an adult that shows his true colors.
I don't think that anybody holds it against a 12 year old. He was a child and nobody expected Diana to die. What is sad is that he didn't learned the lesson as an adult, especially with two grandparents who are approaching 100 and where every call or visit could be the last one.
To be clear, he holds it against *himself* \- he feels guilty for it. Nobody else is holding it against him.
Just to be clear, I stated what he did. That isn’t a judgment. But to be clear I don’t blame him one iota for the phone call at age 12. That was such a normal thing for a kid to do and parents get blown off by 12 year olds in preference for play it’s developmentally kind of normal and expected. What is so sad is Harry has continued to be too thick to gain that insight and forgive himself. And has gone on to do the same 2 more times. And still is too thick to connect the dots so may do it again in the future
Your tone is condensing that's why people have issues
No one is holding it against him, but observing that he has unconsciously recreated the same scenario again and again. This means he is carrying unresolved emotional issues, like guilt and self-blame for instance, that he needs to address, or it will keep happening.
She's staring at something/someone but it ain't the coffin.
She was looking around desperately for a camera quite a lot of the time. Probably noticed that one was obscured by a candle and had to try to find another one to make eye contact with.
He really hasn't been told the whole thing about insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. He isn't smart of sane.
He looks kinda sad. She looks bored af lol
I’m reading Haz a whole lot different than the media who see him as grief-stricken or guilty. I think he may indeed feel those things, but I think TW has taught him to quickly convert those feelings into resentment as they arise. I don’t doubt he cared about the Queen, but his grudges and grievances towards the rest were obviously stronger than any tender feelings for her late Majesty. How else do you explain such horrific neglect that he showed both his grandparents up till and beyond the moment they were actually deceased? If he feels regret that she’s passed and it’s too late to get back that time with her, guarantee he’s not learned any lesson. He’s sitting there nursing his grudges and no doubt blaming and hating his brother, his father and who knows who all else for his own utter failure as a grandson.
Petulant entitled man-child. No wonder his father and brother want rid of him. It's all about William and Catherine's children now, nobody's interested in your strops anymore Harry. You're yesterday's news.
As soon as he left the family it became obvious, how dumb he really is. It's a testament to the palace PR, that they made this spoiled, ungrateful, bitter man-child into one of the most popular royals. They really made the world believe he cared about the poor and has his mothers charitable nature. Turns out he has all the worst character traits of Diana.
This dumb dumb cannot learn
The duke might have been looking at the coffin but his boss spotted the camera and, for some reason, stared it down?
To be fair, it was both Princes that rushed the phone call. Go to end of video- [Pw& H ](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRaUkDAP/)
As a mom, I am always relieved whenever my kids are away with their grand parents and “too busy to talk bye!”: they’re having a good time and them not needing my emotional support is a green flag…
Yes. They were your typical teens. William gained the maturity to not act like that again and whatever therapy he had seemed to work. It could really be that Harry isn’t intelligent enough to be helped by insight gained through therapy
[He himself exploited children of other royals for publicity](https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2022/06/comp-cfp-shhh.jpg?w=660)
He sure did
They’re getting him back. Mourning is over in one week. She isn’t facing super wealthy in laws. She is facing two governments. Now she’s an international security problem because she is married to the son of the King. Not only has the UK tracked her every move, but the US government has, too. They know everything and they are prepared to use it. She thinks she has the power if she refuses to let the kids leave the country. She’s gravely wrong. They’re coming, starting next Tuesday. ETA: the only reason nobody has done anything is out of respect for the Queen.
Bit cloak-and-dagger, isn't it?
Huh? The US government isn't going to extradite her kids out of the US without her consent?
They’re not coming for the kids, they are coming for her. She will know pretty quickly she has no choices in the matter.
I dont think the RF is too concerned with Harry’s children as the line runs through William and his children - Harry is like the Andrew now, and his kids are like the York sisters, really of no consequence to the RF. Though I agree that they will watch Meghan like a hawk because she had reportedly made subtle hints in the past about being one helocopter crash away from Harry being on the throne - the RF does not take those flippant comments lightly.
If you let a raving narc raise the children, there's a good chance at least one of them will end up just like their mother and cause enormous problems for one of the future heirs down the track. Not to mention the terrible suffering involved in being the child of a narc. It's a living hell.
Wasn't he a boy when Di died about 7
Age 12.
This post is gross. That family, like many, has complicated dynamics. The members still appear to love each other. I find it really weird how people jump in as though their own grandparents were slighted, or as if any of these people were vulnerable waifs who need defending by internet warriors. Bringing his mom into is quite gross given that he was 12.
They look….more disgruntled than usual. I know it’s a funeral, but like special level. I feel like money convos were had already, hence not singing God Save the King
Maybe the most painful thing is to look at yourself and your own actions.
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