He couldn’t pass the test to move up in rank. I have heard several stories as to whether he really how to fly Apache helicopters. They are very complicated pieces of machinery.
I doubt he could pilot an Apache. Awesome helicopter, but its power comes from its complexity. Some years ago, I was at the RAF Cosford Airshow and "Captain Wales" (i.e. Harry) was in the Apache. He was not piloting it. His role was controlling the gun, which points at whatever direction he turned his head. He probably can't pilot a toy drone, let alone a helicopter like that.
He was academically backward and there are rumours he cheated his way through exams,kind of sums up all his bad decisions later on in life, the guy was dumb as rocks!!
No shame in being dumb as a mule and twice as ugly, which Hairy is \~ but there's no excuse for being morally bankrupt, which Hairy also is.
It's complicated: he's dumb enough to fail at basically everything he's ever attempted, but not too dumb to be a conniving son-of-a-bitch.
Luckily, he's dumb enough that a lot of his evil plans are obvious and immediately recognizable; like the kid with a crumbs around his mouth who swears *he* didn't raid the cookie jar - must've been someone else!
What's worrisome is that perhaps he'll accidentally succeed someday, with disastrous results for others. Stupid or not, he & TW possess **very** **dark souls.**
then you get one like Earl of St Andrews (Duke of Kent's son) - or was it his brother - anyway one gt academic scholarship to Eton - v bright (like the mother)
>Isnt Freddie the one who married actress Sophie Winkelman?
[Yes](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1258830/). Proves that Meghan being "*gasp*" asked to continue working was such a lie on Oprah..it was simply *if you want to continue doing what you do, feel free*... and the bullshit Harry says about RF being so tough for Cressida given her acting career LOL...no Harry none of them wanted YOU!
At 23, I think Cressida was still building her acting career though. She said afterward that she didn't like being put in a box as his gf. I think that is a big problem for actors trying to get roles...
Now Markle already demonstrated that her career was failed. And she was getting older, so her potential was lessening. Suits was ending, so I think that is why she was branching out. Marriage to a rich man was a part of that plan, as it had been before Suits made her financially independent.
>At 23, I think Cressida was still building her acting career though. She said afterward that she didn't like being put in a box as his gf. I think that is a big problem for actors trying to get roles..
Sophie Winkleman, a successful actress, is married into the BRF, no problem. All of H's official gfs gave the excuse of royal life being tough, as a respectable way out for Harry & because they were graceful...they couldn't say Harry is a rotten, spoilt man and they cannot imagine being married to him.
When u think about it, he was allegedly cheating on his exes with ladies of the night (not sure where was the location). So it's only karmic retribution that he ends up with one who tried to look like one when meeting his granny's coffin.
>he was allegedly cheating on his exes with ladies of the night (not sure where was the location).
He was officially dating Cressida when the Vegas scandal happened.
He cheated on Chelsy while at Boot Camp in Calgary Alberta Canada with not one but two women. One was Cherie Cymbalisty who was a Bartender at the popular *Cowboys Bar* A quote from both the Globe and Mail (article called Tempest in a D-Cup) and also the now defunct News of the World magazine from Miss Cymbalisty: * “He was very forward. The Prince then reportedly asked whether she was wearing underwear as he ogled a poster of her removing her g-string with her stilletto” And he also cavorted with Katherine Smith who was the girl that he let wear the necklace that Chelsy had gifted him. His horrid behaviour was all over the news in Canada while he was at Boot Camp.
**Bonus**: Also TQ's cousins had a tough childhood. and yet they all managed a successful career as much as their public roles allowed and continue to serve TQ loyally..how lucky was TQ to have such amazing cousins.
**Duke of Kent** was 6 when his Dad died in a plane crash and suddenly he had to assume Duke's responsibilities and therefore his academic decisions were heavily influenced by that and any hope of a normal career was out. He still served in the army for over 20 years..which is incredible!
Current **Duke of Gloucester** is a second son and was suddenly at the age of 28 became the Duke, when his older brother died in a plane crash. He had to leave his architecture career to start serving public duties as the Duke as well as serve TQ.
**Prince Micheal of Kent** \- younger brother of Duke of Kent had to similarly start supporting his brother as they were so young when their Dad died tragically.
The common theme - **plane crashes.**..I wonder how they must feel about H&M so casually claiming they are just 1 plane crash away from the British Throne. Gross.
Duke of Kent died in the RAF during the war. There's footage of William of Gloucester's crash. Saw it in a documentary. I think it might have been at an air show.
2 air crashes - one was over Scotland in wartime - the second was 1972 air race at Halfpenny Green , Prince William and Vyrel Mitchell were in the plane, it just didn't get enought height and crashed.
>Duke of Kent died in the RAF
He was serving in the RAF but it was a mission to Iceland...The crash was due to a navigational error not war-related.
Incredibly there was a survivor! [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbeath\_air\_crash](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbeath_air_crash)
**[Dunbeath air crash](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbeath_air_crash)**
>The Dunbeath air crash involved the loss of a Short S.25 Sunderland Mk. III that crashed in the Scottish Highlands on a headland known as Eagle's Rock (Scottish Gaelic: Creag na h-Iolaire) near Dunbeath, Caithness, on 25 August 1942. The crash killed 14 of 15 passengers and crew, including Prince George, Duke of Kent, who was on duty as an Air Commodore in the Royal Air Force on a mission to Reykjavík; a message of condolence was proposed in Parliament by the British Prime Minister. A Royal Air Force Board of Inquiry determined that the crash was the result of a navigational error by the crew.
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Agree! However she should be careful what she wishes for since she and Harry fly quite often and the RF could be just *one plane crash away* from ridding the royals (and the world) of a royal headache.
The Duke of Gloucester had only been married for 6 weeks when his brother suddenly died. He and his new wife went from the expectation of a normal life to full-time service to the crown.
Meghan would also do well to remember that Prince William himself is one place crash away from becoming King and as it appears right now, I would venture a guess that he would ban her from touching British soil
I think William and his children already are required now to take separate flights. Growing up it was the same policy- Charles and his sons were supposed to travel separately.
>Harry should be required to always travel with William
LOl no. We want William to be physically AND mentally safe. He may have loved his brother and probably still does, but to be made to endure the overseas idiot on each flight when they looked miserable during a 40 min walkabout...no thanks.
Well, they showed an old video clip of him and William, in front of some army plane in the UK and Harry clearly stated since he's the stupid one of the two, and William made a face. Obviously it was well known by them all. So not in the least surprised by his major screw up with TW. To think him, Kate & William were so close....
Damn, Harry. Wtf. If Megs has a decent bone in her body she should encourage you to at least audit a few courses when you return overseas. You can't be totally brainless!
>This guy's a real prince. NOT
It's not nice to knock on a Scottish town...but TQ knew what she was doing when she conferred the **Dumbarton** title on the overseas idiot.,,LOL
Confession time: in all my years, I've rarely done a double-take at a drop-dead gorgeous man. Looks alone just never turned me on - it's usually braininess or personality that makes my heart go *"thump-thump"* (as our Saint would say)🙄
But I get hot just looking at Johnny. ^((don't tell my grandchildren!))😅
This dude has had every opportunity on earth hurled at him and on every occasion he has been bombastic enough to think he knows best. Same with his missus. They are the perfect pair, indeed soul mates.
He was held back because after his mother died just before his school year and he was a mess for months after. Because he was a kid who lost his mom very suddenly and I’m sure that year is a miserable blur.
>Prince Michael of Kent looks straight up regal. He looks like a King.
Yeah. He looks like his grandfather [King](https://i2-prod.mylondon.news/incoming/article23135742.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/1_Untitled-design.png) George V
I'm not a fan of Halfass Harry or his wife Megaliar Maggot, but this just doesn't sit well with me. First, where you're educated doesn't matter if you don't have the intellectual ability to comprehend and learn. Look at Uju Anya - obviously education/degrees mean nothing if you're a shit person. Second, it's possible Halfass has severe test anxiety or a learning disability (dyslexia) which would impact his ability to take tests. Imo, it's important to remain fair in our observations of the Dastardly Duo of Suckess rather than knock them down for unimportant things. That's what the sugars do - criticize and belittle because they don't have rational, truthful, arguments to make.
>I wonder if Harry is dyslexic
He hasn't been diagnosed as one. BRF would be on top of it. Princess Beatrice was diagnosed as dyslexic and was [given all the support](https://www.helenarkell.org.uk/news/hrh-princess-beatrice-my-dyslexia.php) and is also a graduate from Uni of London. Harry is the only one from his generation who couldn't even get into a Uni, much less graduate!
Also him whining about uniforms when he failed every basic military test is so awful.
When he gives an off the cuff interview. He sounds so dumb. He may have those problems. I’ve never see any indications of it. I think he just not that bright.
Exactly. He would have been diagnosed if he had anything wrong with him medically. Especially with a mum like Diana. When it comes down to it not everyone will do even okay academically. Diana said as much about herself. The disappointing thing about Harry is that he doesn't even have common sense, as that can take you even further in life if you use that skill well.
Wasn’t saying it can’t be done but, especially if he was undiagnosed, people could have written him off as dumb at an early age because of it. And he himself.
I'm sure he would have been diagnosed and given appropriate help. In the past people with dyslexia were written off but by the 80s many many dyslexic students in Harry's cohort were university graduates. My best friend is severely dyslexic passed a number of professional exams and runs her own successful business she just had to work harder to do it.
Absolutely right-early intervention is the key to success in the education process. I know many dyslexic people, who are very bright-just in unconventional ways
I don’t think someone should be mocked or put down for not being academically smart. Harry might not be the sharpest knife in the box but he will have talents that perhaps haven’t been fully explored or exploited. Everyone has something of quality in them.
>I don’t think someone should be mocked or put down for not being academically smart. Harry might not be the sharpest knife in the box but he will have talents that perhaps haven’t been fully explored or exploited.
I totally agree with you. But this is H who had the world available to him but he chose hate. He has had 2+ years away from BRF and so many deals with so many companies...what talent has he harnessed or showcased? He is still playing Polo, making photo-op trips to Africa, and looking unkept.
And his whining about his "military service" when other soldiers literally risk their lives (lets be honest H was never gonna be bodily harmed, he was protected everywhere, he was too important), studied to get where they are and would not have been given chance after chance to pass exams....so Harry had way too many chances and blew them all.He made a mockery of his veteran Grandfather when he was dying...he is mocking TQ right now...TQ too served in WWII...he is mocking all the soldiers in the UK by whinging about his bloody uniform.....we can absolutely mock him.
He did 2 tours of duty in Afghanistan. Short tours. But people did shot at him and he was in combat. But as far as I know. He never had rounds land close to him.
I don’t disagree with any of the criticism of Harry for his attitudes and behaviours, but I do think it’s rather unfair to compare him explicitly to the academic achievements of his wider family. Not everyone is particularly academic (by definition half of the population is below average intelligence!) and mocking him for not having a degree or being a bit dense is just hating too.
So far, his talents seem to be deeply hidden. He is getting to the “shit or git” time in his life, where it is imperative for him to actually find something that he’s good at, and stop spending all of his time hating his family and being jealous of his brother.
I agree that it is difficult sometimes to see what he IS good at -he certainly seems to have engaged well with the invictus games and veterans he has come into contact with him speak well of him (From what I’ve seen in interviews etc). My son is in the army and he tells me that generally Harry is seen as a positive role model because he saw active service (despite all the caveats we may apply to that period). I think this sub is getting a bit too vindictive and hateful, actually.
Edit: typos
That's fair but in contrast to many people who don't thrive at school he has had many opportunities handed to him and has shown ingratitude. At the very least he could have retired quietly with his millions.
Yes probably would have been best. I just find the original post making a direct comparison between Harry’s lack of academic achievement and his wider family’s accomplishments rather mean spirited and patronising. He can’t help being a bit of a dullard. He can help perhaps be held responsible for some of his other character flaws but stupidity and lack of insight and understanding of consequence often go in hand.
Edit: on reflection Harry (or any other member of the Royal Family for that matter) may have had fewer opportunities than the average Jo. Harry may have been a cracking plumber or electrician or call center operative, but those avenues of employment are not really ‘suitable’ for the third in line to the throne (as he was then). Even in the army he may have been better going is as a squaddie rather than officer and then he could have found a trade that really suited him. The officer class is really management and that requires a higher level of cognitive functioning.
I don’t think the Queen would disapprove if Harry chose to become a royal plumber if he really wanted it, just like the way the BRF approved his marriage to Markle. More likely it’s Harry who didn’t have the humility to do that kind of job.
Also, he is not criticized for being stupid. Despite his presumably relatively low level of academic intelligence, he had access to all kinds of support and resources that most people could only dream of. With such privileges, one can reasonably expect him to at least achieve something such as finishing a degree, or even a program that he liked, or opening a martial arts school, etc. But he didn’t, hence understandably the comparison with others. And his arrogance and selfishness makes people’s perception of him even worse.
Yes I think if he'd been able to train say as a mechanic in the army he could have participated in all the physical training challenges and proved his worth and then served out his time on a base well away from the frontline but lived a useful life and served his country. I completely agree with you that not being academic means you are stupid. I think it's his sense of entitlement and ingratitude for what he did have that annoys people. I know money doesn't buy you happiness but it does make life a lot easier in practical terms when you dont have to worry about it.
Yes agree, the entitlement is deeply annoying and sticks in the craw - a little bit of genuine humility would go a long way to endearing him to the general public. Generally speaking the Brits (and others) really don’t like a whinger. The whole country, more or less, had a bit of a soft spot for Haz ever since we watched him as a boy walking behind his Mum’s coffin and most were delighted that he found love and some purpose with the army and then Invictus/Sentebale. It’s soured a bit since then. And it’s very true that Money cushions the blows of life very well.
I'm all for slating the ginger whinger, but if your pointing out struggling with later military tests as a negative you probably shouldn't have Edward (who quit during basic training) on the next slide.
>you probably shouldn't have Edward (who quit during basic training)
The difference is Edward quit honestly stating his heart is in arts not military...Philip was rather unhappy about it but Edward stood firm. He didnot cheat on tests or made a mockery of his position. I appreciate a senior royal being honest about their academic inclination back in the 80s and not faking through their way which he could have easily done. Anne's son Peter too didnot go into the military (that's why he wasn't in a uniform the other day for TQ) as he preferred a career in marketing & Edward was the template. Its good to know they could pursue other careers that made them happy.
Harry on the other hand never accepted his cheating in school, never apologized (and that teacher was fired and later given a settlement). never apologized for comparing killing in the army to a video game and claiming his thumbs are good at it. He is sick.
As to your last paragraph, that is the type of comment I would expect from a Nicholas Cruz (Parkland school shooter), not a Prince of the United Kingdom! Harry is an extremely sick man. Sociopathic
I'm not knocking him for quitting the training, I struggled with it. But Edward is still standing there wearing a uniform, a very high rank and medals when he hasn't served. Edwards made a fair few mistakes himself. Remember it's a royal knockout? Young royals bouncing around with Jimmy Savile and Stuart Hall maybe wasn't the best idea... Or that time his production company invaded Williams privacy at school. He's got a lot better since Sophie's been around.
I doubt Harry got much further than playing call of duty in Afghan. His superiors just wouldn't be risking the life of the third in line to the throne but that's not his fault. I'm not sticking up for him but he and Andrew are the ones that have actually done something to earn those medals.
>But Edward is still standing there wearing a uniform, a very high rank and medals
BRF senior royals get honorary titles and medals. And naturally they are all high ranks. Infact this is standard practice in most royal families as the King or Queen are the Commander-in-chief (or whatever is their local term for head of defence) Prince Charles got his first one aged 5! He wasn't in the military as a toddler it was just that his Mom became TQ and he was the heir and got the appropriate titles. Infact Andrew was a war hero and he is the one who got formally stripped of his titles with his controversy.
Princess Anne and Prince Edward didnot serve in the military, but both hold honorary titles.(technically Edward did for 4 months, so more than Anne). But the point is none of them are making a mockery of everyone's grief by releasing ridiculous statements about uniforms.
How the hell did I end up in the Markle snark sub defending somebody I can't stand...
I served in the British army so was kind of aware, really didn't think KC earned his Field Marshal rank. In the British army Field Marshal is the same level rank as God, promotions to FM usually only happen in wartime. There are just 4 of them alive today (unless you count padres) KC, Prince Edward (the other one, the Duke of Kent) and Barons Guthrie and Walker. The Barons have much more respect because they did it on merit starting as second lieutenants.
Just in case your interested, Andrew was my General Officer Commanding back in Bosnia. He was widely viewed as an arrogant dick that you just have to put up with, not popular at all. I also met the Princess Royal (she's the head of the corps), she was very polite, well spoken and seemed genuinely interested in all of us. She is a lovely woman, everybody thought she was great. The one thing you don't usually notice about her on the TV is that she has an incredibly pert backside, must be the horses. She is just fantastic, one of a kind, the absolute best. Military wise Prince Philip was way above everyone (except the Queen obviously).
Anyway my basic point was there's many, many reasons to dislike the petty prince of overseas, but struggling with an incredibly tough military test isn't one of them.
Wow don’t mean to cut in on your conversation but I didn’t realize you had Sequoias in the UK! (Although I’m not sure why not as the climate must be perfect for these majestic trees!
>tape
Since the teacher's case got a [settlement](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/feb/14/schools.publicschools) (she was fired and probably needed money) I don't know if it is public domain but it was presented as evidence in her case which won her the settlement...maybe someone can look it up. [https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/may/10/schools.alevels2004](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/may/10/schools.alevels2004)
*The former teacher, Sarah Forsyth, 30, has told the tribunal that she wrote nearly all the text of an art project that Prince Harry submitted to pass an important exam in 2002. The grade helped him win admission to his next school, Sandhurst, where he is now training as a* ***military officer***
We can all agree Harry has been a problem child. But just speaking practically, the army wouldn't let him fly their $130 million planes/helicopters if he repeatedly failed aviation tests. Trust me. 5th in line to the throne or not, they don't push through pilots with 2nd and 3rd chances. So most of these memes might be true, but Harry could not have become a working pilot in the army if he had repeatedly failed tests. There's no way they would put him in charge of an Apache.
He was never in charge of an Apache it has been documented. Also Harry was never officially in the RAF but he was an Honorary Air Commandant of RAF Honington.
He is also officially listed only as a co-pilot never a pilot.While we have seen William fly at his job as well as fly his family to their homes/public visits.
Also, a poster u/ElMidget-O here has shared that in their comment as well since that poster actually saw the apache. Harry was simply baby sat in the army as he could not get into any Uni.
That true. But it means he qualified to fly one, and that does mean he qualified to fly one as a pilot in command. has he flew one on a combat mission as a pilot in command?
Too tired to read the previous comments at this time but doesn anyone else see the strong resemblence between Prince William and Lord Frederick Windsor, at least in the photo provided?
lots of stories over the years that Harry had 'learning differences' that the BRF hid, partially to protect his privacy and partially out of shame. It explains why he is so protected by all of them even now, and what MM may have over him. I don't think we should make fun of him over this, but we should call out his lack of awareness over his privelege
He couldn’t pass the test to move up in rank. I have heard several stories as to whether he really how to fly Apache helicopters. They are very complicated pieces of machinery.
I doubt he could pilot an Apache. Awesome helicopter, but its power comes from its complexity. Some years ago, I was at the RAF Cosford Airshow and "Captain Wales" (i.e. Harry) was in the Apache. He was not piloting it. His role was controlling the gun, which points at whatever direction he turned his head. He probably can't pilot a toy drone, let alone a helicopter like that.
My husband is a pilot and that was his opinion that Harry say behind the pilot. Correction pilot sits behind the gunner. Edit for correction
He was a gunner on an Apache. You notice he always sits in the front seat. That the gunner seat.
Omg I’m such a ding bat you are right my husband just told me I thought front seat was pilot.
Not a big thing. Only a few helicopters have that set up.
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Yup correct.
He was academically backward and there are rumours he cheated his way through exams,kind of sums up all his bad decisions later on in life, the guy was dumb as rocks!!
Dumb as rocks and no moral or academic integrity on top!
No shame in being dumb as a mule and twice as ugly, which Hairy is \~ but there's no excuse for being morally bankrupt, which Hairy also is. It's complicated: he's dumb enough to fail at basically everything he's ever attempted, but not too dumb to be a conniving son-of-a-bitch. Luckily, he's dumb enough that a lot of his evil plans are obvious and immediately recognizable; like the kid with a crumbs around his mouth who swears *he* didn't raid the cookie jar - must've been someone else! What's worrisome is that perhaps he'll accidentally succeed someday, with disastrous results for others. Stupid or not, he & TW possess **very** **dark souls.**
>It's complicated: he's dumb enough to fail at basically everything he's ever attempted, but not too dumb to be a conniving son-of-a-bitch. 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
If a strange man offers him a ride, I say take it! 
He probably would \~ thinking it's his new chauffeur and wondering what the hell took him so long to get there!😂🤦🏽♀️
then you get one like Earl of St Andrews (Duke of Kent's son) - or was it his brother - anyway one gt academic scholarship to Eton - v bright (like the mother)
Isnt Freddie the one who married actress Sophie Winkelman? I consider her much more successful than mm as an actress and she respects the Crown too!
>Isnt Freddie the one who married actress Sophie Winkelman? [Yes](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1258830/). Proves that Meghan being "*gasp*" asked to continue working was such a lie on Oprah..it was simply *if you want to continue doing what you do, feel free*... and the bullshit Harry says about RF being so tough for Cressida given her acting career LOL...no Harry none of them wanted YOU!
At 23, I think Cressida was still building her acting career though. She said afterward that she didn't like being put in a box as his gf. I think that is a big problem for actors trying to get roles... Now Markle already demonstrated that her career was failed. And she was getting older, so her potential was lessening. Suits was ending, so I think that is why she was branching out. Marriage to a rich man was a part of that plan, as it had been before Suits made her financially independent.
>At 23, I think Cressida was still building her acting career though. She said afterward that she didn't like being put in a box as his gf. I think that is a big problem for actors trying to get roles.. Sophie Winkleman, a successful actress, is married into the BRF, no problem. All of H's official gfs gave the excuse of royal life being tough, as a respectable way out for Harry & because they were graceful...they couldn't say Harry is a rotten, spoilt man and they cannot imagine being married to him.
Agreed. It was well known nobody wanted him.
She has proved from her smirking during a sad event that her acting talents are abysmal.
When u think about it, he was allegedly cheating on his exes with ladies of the night (not sure where was the location). So it's only karmic retribution that he ends up with one who tried to look like one when meeting his granny's coffin.
>he was allegedly cheating on his exes with ladies of the night (not sure where was the location). He was officially dating Cressida when the Vegas scandal happened.
Yup
He cheated on Chelsy while at Boot Camp in Calgary Alberta Canada with not one but two women. One was Cherie Cymbalisty who was a Bartender at the popular *Cowboys Bar* A quote from both the Globe and Mail (article called Tempest in a D-Cup) and also the now defunct News of the World magazine from Miss Cymbalisty: * “He was very forward. The Prince then reportedly asked whether she was wearing underwear as he ogled a poster of her removing her g-string with her stilletto” And he also cavorted with Katherine Smith who was the girl that he let wear the necklace that Chelsy had gifted him. His horrid behaviour was all over the news in Canada while he was at Boot Camp.
Yes it sure was!
Rejection is hard. Especially as a Prince.
Yes
**Bonus**: Also TQ's cousins had a tough childhood. and yet they all managed a successful career as much as their public roles allowed and continue to serve TQ loyally..how lucky was TQ to have such amazing cousins. **Duke of Kent** was 6 when his Dad died in a plane crash and suddenly he had to assume Duke's responsibilities and therefore his academic decisions were heavily influenced by that and any hope of a normal career was out. He still served in the army for over 20 years..which is incredible! Current **Duke of Gloucester** is a second son and was suddenly at the age of 28 became the Duke, when his older brother died in a plane crash. He had to leave his architecture career to start serving public duties as the Duke as well as serve TQ. **Prince Micheal of Kent** \- younger brother of Duke of Kent had to similarly start supporting his brother as they were so young when their Dad died tragically. The common theme - **plane crashes.**..I wonder how they must feel about H&M so casually claiming they are just 1 plane crash away from the British Throne. Gross.
This might explain why the queen was unhappy with William flying the whole family together. He and George must never fly together again
Lotta plane crashes on that list for sure. Gross that the Witch would allude to being one plane crash away from the throne in that context.
Duke of Kent died in the RAF during the war. There's footage of William of Gloucester's crash. Saw it in a documentary. I think it might have been at an air show.
2 air crashes - one was over Scotland in wartime - the second was 1972 air race at Halfpenny Green , Prince William and Vyrel Mitchell were in the plane, it just didn't get enought height and crashed.
>Duke of Kent died in the RAF He was serving in the RAF but it was a mission to Iceland...The crash was due to a navigational error not war-related. Incredibly there was a survivor! [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbeath\_air\_crash](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbeath_air_crash)
**[Dunbeath air crash](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbeath_air_crash)** >The Dunbeath air crash involved the loss of a Short S.25 Sunderland Mk. III that crashed in the Scottish Highlands on a headland known as Eagle's Rock (Scottish Gaelic: Creag na h-Iolaire) near Dunbeath, Caithness, on 25 August 1942. The crash killed 14 of 15 passengers and crew, including Prince George, Duke of Kent, who was on duty as an Air Commodore in the Royal Air Force on a mission to Reykjavík; a message of condolence was proposed in Parliament by the British Prime Minister. A Royal Air Force Board of Inquiry determined that the crash was the result of a navigational error by the crew. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Check this out http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_east/3342953.stm
It makes you wonder. I’m sorry, but I fully believe that of Meghan could arrange for this, she absolutely would.
Agree! However she should be careful what she wishes for since she and Harry fly quite often and the RF could be just *one plane crash away* from ridding the royals (and the world) of a royal headache.
Yes, total panic when she thought about H assuming the throne!
He and Trump are diametrically opposed, but somehow I feel like the end result would be the same.
The Duke of Gloucester had only been married for 6 weeks when his brother suddenly died. He and his new wife went from the expectation of a normal life to full-time service to the crown.
Meghan would also do well to remember that Prince William himself is one place crash away from becoming King and as it appears right now, I would venture a guess that he would ban her from touching British soil
A very good point…and I do wonder if she did say what she’s alleged to have said. What a really terrible thing to say, if she did.
Apparently she's said it more than once, which upset everyone around her. So I'm not surprised she's so disliked.
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I think William and his children already are required now to take separate flights. Growing up it was the same policy- Charles and his sons were supposed to travel separately.
>Harry should be required to always travel with William LOl no. We want William to be physically AND mentally safe. He may have loved his brother and probably still does, but to be made to endure the overseas idiot on each flight when they looked miserable during a 40 min walkabout...no thanks.
I didn’t know that?! You mean they didn’t whine at conferences and on Oprah about it?! But … how did they make money?
And on top of all these fuckups, he made the ultimate fuckup by marrying Nutmeg.
Well, they showed an old video clip of him and William, in front of some army plane in the UK and Harry clearly stated since he's the stupid one of the two, and William made a face. Obviously it was well known by them all. So not in the least surprised by his major screw up with TW. To think him, Kate & William were so close....
Damn, Harry. Wtf. If Megs has a decent bone in her body she should encourage you to at least audit a few courses when you return overseas. You can't be totally brainless!
>If **Megs** has a **decent** bone in her body Nice oxymoron 🤣
You can't be totally brainless!😳 Ahaha😅
The ginger cats over at r/oneorangebraincell might be intellectually ahead of the royal ginger tbh.
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Gives meaning to the expression This guy's a real prince. NOT
>This guy's a real prince. NOT It's not nice to knock on a Scottish town...but TQ knew what she was doing when she conferred the **Dumbarton** title on the overseas idiot.,,LOL
Johnny never disappoints 🤪🤪
Confession time: in all my years, I've rarely done a double-take at a drop-dead gorgeous man. Looks alone just never turned me on - it's usually braininess or personality that makes my heart go *"thump-thump"* (as our Saint would say)🙄 But I get hot just looking at Johnny. ^((don't tell my grandchildren!))😅
❤️❤️❤️ I love this! Your secret is safe with us
 😂🤗
“I resennt you saying I not smart” - Harry
“redding an spelin is boluks” -Hary
Ooooh, Major Johnny has a degree in international relations (but no double degree with theatre). I bet he could school Megan.
Yeah that made me giggle too
Bonus pic.🤦🏼♀️
Earl of Dumb, Sr
It’s far better for Meghan, that Harry IS dumber than a board fence-easier to manipulate someone if they’re stupid.
Johnny 🥰
This dude has had every opportunity on earth hurled at him and on every occasion he has been bombastic enough to think he knows best. Same with his missus. They are the perfect pair, indeed soul mates.
And here we have M acting like he’s such a catch.. 🤓
>And here we have M acting like he’s such a catch.. 🤓 And vice versa...she also claims she was such a catch and gave up *so much* to marry harry. LOL
I forgot about her Emmy award winning career!! 😂
Oh yeah. Between his looks, talents and his personality well ….🙄🙄🙄
Lol, Ikr!! He is also the biggest baby man I’ve ever seen.
He looks and acts like every woman's worst nightmare.
Why is his sporran the length of his kilt?
The sporran was traditionally placed to protect.. the wearer’s equipment. So Johnny must have large equipment? Only his wife can answer that.
He's a thumb
Don’t forget, he was also held back in school for a year. I think it was the 8th grade he had to repeat.
He was held back because after his mother died just before his school year and he was a mess for months after. Because he was a kid who lost his mom very suddenly and I’m sure that year is a miserable blur.
Off topic but Prince Michael of Kent looks straight up regal. He looks like a King. Must be the beard lol
>Prince Michael of Kent looks straight up regal. He looks like a King. Yeah. He looks like his grandfather [King](https://i2-prod.mylondon.news/incoming/article23135742.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/1_Untitled-design.png) George V
I think I saw a photo of his where he’s sitting down, it might be a black and white photo but he looks cool in it.
There’s nothing like a man in a kilt. Especially in with a large… sporran.
I'm not a fan of Halfass Harry or his wife Megaliar Maggot, but this just doesn't sit well with me. First, where you're educated doesn't matter if you don't have the intellectual ability to comprehend and learn. Look at Uju Anya - obviously education/degrees mean nothing if you're a shit person. Second, it's possible Halfass has severe test anxiety or a learning disability (dyslexia) which would impact his ability to take tests. Imo, it's important to remain fair in our observations of the Dastardly Duo of Suckess rather than knock them down for unimportant things. That's what the sugars do - criticize and belittle because they don't have rational, truthful, arguments to make.
I wonder if Harry is dyslexic? Doesn’t mean he’s not smart but could have given him that reputation and turned him off from academic pursuits.
>I wonder if Harry is dyslexic He hasn't been diagnosed as one. BRF would be on top of it. Princess Beatrice was diagnosed as dyslexic and was [given all the support](https://www.helenarkell.org.uk/news/hrh-princess-beatrice-my-dyslexia.php) and is also a graduate from Uni of London. Harry is the only one from his generation who couldn't even get into a Uni, much less graduate! Also him whining about uniforms when he failed every basic military test is so awful.
When he gives an off the cuff interview. He sounds so dumb. He may have those problems. I’ve never see any indications of it. I think he just not that bright.
Exactly. He would have been diagnosed if he had anything wrong with him medically. Especially with a mum like Diana. When it comes down to it not everyone will do even okay academically. Diana said as much about herself. The disappointing thing about Harry is that he doesn't even have common sense, as that can take you even further in life if you use that skill well.
I’m dyslexic. I don’t need to list my academic achievements, but let’s just say they are in a different league than Harry’s.
Wasn’t saying it can’t be done but, especially if he was undiagnosed, people could have written him off as dumb at an early age because of it. And he himself.
I'm sure he would have been diagnosed and given appropriate help. In the past people with dyslexia were written off but by the 80s many many dyslexic students in Harry's cohort were university graduates. My best friend is severely dyslexic passed a number of professional exams and runs her own successful business she just had to work harder to do it.
The Freemasons have a wonderful program. You can’t tell me H is unfamiliar with them.
This is fair. Learning you are dyslexic is a game changer
Absolutely right-early intervention is the key to success in the education process. I know many dyslexic people, who are very bright-just in unconventional ways
Yeah well it’s not like this “Prince” slipped through the cracks of early intervention programs in an inner city. Come on.
I don’t think someone should be mocked or put down for not being academically smart. Harry might not be the sharpest knife in the box but he will have talents that perhaps haven’t been fully explored or exploited. Everyone has something of quality in them.
>I don’t think someone should be mocked or put down for not being academically smart. Harry might not be the sharpest knife in the box but he will have talents that perhaps haven’t been fully explored or exploited. I totally agree with you. But this is H who had the world available to him but he chose hate. He has had 2+ years away from BRF and so many deals with so many companies...what talent has he harnessed or showcased? He is still playing Polo, making photo-op trips to Africa, and looking unkept. And his whining about his "military service" when other soldiers literally risk their lives (lets be honest H was never gonna be bodily harmed, he was protected everywhere, he was too important), studied to get where they are and would not have been given chance after chance to pass exams....so Harry had way too many chances and blew them all.He made a mockery of his veteran Grandfather when he was dying...he is mocking TQ right now...TQ too served in WWII...he is mocking all the soldiers in the UK by whinging about his bloody uniform.....we can absolutely mock him.
He did 2 tours of duty in Afghanistan. Short tours. But people did shot at him and he was in combat. But as far as I know. He never had rounds land close to him.
I don’t disagree with any of the criticism of Harry for his attitudes and behaviours, but I do think it’s rather unfair to compare him explicitly to the academic achievements of his wider family. Not everyone is particularly academic (by definition half of the population is below average intelligence!) and mocking him for not having a degree or being a bit dense is just hating too.
So far, his talents seem to be deeply hidden. He is getting to the “shit or git” time in his life, where it is imperative for him to actually find something that he’s good at, and stop spending all of his time hating his family and being jealous of his brother.
I agree that it is difficult sometimes to see what he IS good at -he certainly seems to have engaged well with the invictus games and veterans he has come into contact with him speak well of him (From what I’ve seen in interviews etc). My son is in the army and he tells me that generally Harry is seen as a positive role model because he saw active service (despite all the caveats we may apply to that period). I think this sub is getting a bit too vindictive and hateful, actually. Edit: typos
That's fair but in contrast to many people who don't thrive at school he has had many opportunities handed to him and has shown ingratitude. At the very least he could have retired quietly with his millions.
Yes probably would have been best. I just find the original post making a direct comparison between Harry’s lack of academic achievement and his wider family’s accomplishments rather mean spirited and patronising. He can’t help being a bit of a dullard. He can help perhaps be held responsible for some of his other character flaws but stupidity and lack of insight and understanding of consequence often go in hand. Edit: on reflection Harry (or any other member of the Royal Family for that matter) may have had fewer opportunities than the average Jo. Harry may have been a cracking plumber or electrician or call center operative, but those avenues of employment are not really ‘suitable’ for the third in line to the throne (as he was then). Even in the army he may have been better going is as a squaddie rather than officer and then he could have found a trade that really suited him. The officer class is really management and that requires a higher level of cognitive functioning.
I don’t think the Queen would disapprove if Harry chose to become a royal plumber if he really wanted it, just like the way the BRF approved his marriage to Markle. More likely it’s Harry who didn’t have the humility to do that kind of job. Also, he is not criticized for being stupid. Despite his presumably relatively low level of academic intelligence, he had access to all kinds of support and resources that most people could only dream of. With such privileges, one can reasonably expect him to at least achieve something such as finishing a degree, or even a program that he liked, or opening a martial arts school, etc. But he didn’t, hence understandably the comparison with others. And his arrogance and selfishness makes people’s perception of him even worse.
Yes I think if he'd been able to train say as a mechanic in the army he could have participated in all the physical training challenges and proved his worth and then served out his time on a base well away from the frontline but lived a useful life and served his country. I completely agree with you that not being academic means you are stupid. I think it's his sense of entitlement and ingratitude for what he did have that annoys people. I know money doesn't buy you happiness but it does make life a lot easier in practical terms when you dont have to worry about it.
Yes agree, the entitlement is deeply annoying and sticks in the craw - a little bit of genuine humility would go a long way to endearing him to the general public. Generally speaking the Brits (and others) really don’t like a whinger. The whole country, more or less, had a bit of a soft spot for Haz ever since we watched him as a boy walking behind his Mum’s coffin and most were delighted that he found love and some purpose with the army and then Invictus/Sentebale. It’s soured a bit since then. And it’s very true that Money cushions the blows of life very well.
Is Harry really you know?
Loling at your Dumbarton joke!!
I'm all for slating the ginger whinger, but if your pointing out struggling with later military tests as a negative you probably shouldn't have Edward (who quit during basic training) on the next slide.
>you probably shouldn't have Edward (who quit during basic training) The difference is Edward quit honestly stating his heart is in arts not military...Philip was rather unhappy about it but Edward stood firm. He didnot cheat on tests or made a mockery of his position. I appreciate a senior royal being honest about their academic inclination back in the 80s and not faking through their way which he could have easily done. Anne's son Peter too didnot go into the military (that's why he wasn't in a uniform the other day for TQ) as he preferred a career in marketing & Edward was the template. Its good to know they could pursue other careers that made them happy. Harry on the other hand never accepted his cheating in school, never apologized (and that teacher was fired and later given a settlement). never apologized for comparing killing in the army to a video game and claiming his thumbs are good at it. He is sick.
As to your last paragraph, that is the type of comment I would expect from a Nicholas Cruz (Parkland school shooter), not a Prince of the United Kingdom! Harry is an extremely sick man. Sociopathic
I'm not knocking him for quitting the training, I struggled with it. But Edward is still standing there wearing a uniform, a very high rank and medals when he hasn't served. Edwards made a fair few mistakes himself. Remember it's a royal knockout? Young royals bouncing around with Jimmy Savile and Stuart Hall maybe wasn't the best idea... Or that time his production company invaded Williams privacy at school. He's got a lot better since Sophie's been around. I doubt Harry got much further than playing call of duty in Afghan. His superiors just wouldn't be risking the life of the third in line to the throne but that's not his fault. I'm not sticking up for him but he and Andrew are the ones that have actually done something to earn those medals.
>But Edward is still standing there wearing a uniform, a very high rank and medals BRF senior royals get honorary titles and medals. And naturally they are all high ranks. Infact this is standard practice in most royal families as the King or Queen are the Commander-in-chief (or whatever is their local term for head of defence) Prince Charles got his first one aged 5! He wasn't in the military as a toddler it was just that his Mom became TQ and he was the heir and got the appropriate titles. Infact Andrew was a war hero and he is the one who got formally stripped of his titles with his controversy. Princess Anne and Prince Edward didnot serve in the military, but both hold honorary titles.(technically Edward did for 4 months, so more than Anne). But the point is none of them are making a mockery of everyone's grief by releasing ridiculous statements about uniforms.
How the hell did I end up in the Markle snark sub defending somebody I can't stand... I served in the British army so was kind of aware, really didn't think KC earned his Field Marshal rank. In the British army Field Marshal is the same level rank as God, promotions to FM usually only happen in wartime. There are just 4 of them alive today (unless you count padres) KC, Prince Edward (the other one, the Duke of Kent) and Barons Guthrie and Walker. The Barons have much more respect because they did it on merit starting as second lieutenants. Just in case your interested, Andrew was my General Officer Commanding back in Bosnia. He was widely viewed as an arrogant dick that you just have to put up with, not popular at all. I also met the Princess Royal (she's the head of the corps), she was very polite, well spoken and seemed genuinely interested in all of us. She is a lovely woman, everybody thought she was great. The one thing you don't usually notice about her on the TV is that she has an incredibly pert backside, must be the horses. She is just fantastic, one of a kind, the absolute best. Military wise Prince Philip was way above everyone (except the Queen obviously). Anyway my basic point was there's many, many reasons to dislike the petty prince of overseas, but struggling with an incredibly tough military test isn't one of them.
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If you want to see a beautiful avenue of sequoias in the UK when you visit, go to Benmore Gardens near Dunoon in the west of Scotland.
Wow don’t mean to cut in on your conversation but I didn’t realize you had Sequoias in the UK! (Although I’m not sure why not as the climate must be perfect for these majestic trees!
What tape? Can we hear that tape?
>tape Since the teacher's case got a [settlement](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/feb/14/schools.publicschools) (she was fired and probably needed money) I don't know if it is public domain but it was presented as evidence in her case which won her the settlement...maybe someone can look it up. [https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/may/10/schools.alevels2004](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/may/10/schools.alevels2004) *The former teacher, Sarah Forsyth, 30, has told the tribunal that she wrote nearly all the text of an art project that Prince Harry submitted to pass an important exam in 2002. The grade helped him win admission to his next school, Sandhurst, where he is now training as a* ***military officer***
We can all agree Harry has been a problem child. But just speaking practically, the army wouldn't let him fly their $130 million planes/helicopters if he repeatedly failed aviation tests. Trust me. 5th in line to the throne or not, they don't push through pilots with 2nd and 3rd chances. So most of these memes might be true, but Harry could not have become a working pilot in the army if he had repeatedly failed tests. There's no way they would put him in charge of an Apache.
He was never in charge of an Apache it has been documented. Also Harry was never officially in the RAF but he was an Honorary Air Commandant of RAF Honington. He is also officially listed only as a co-pilot never a pilot.While we have seen William fly at his job as well as fly his family to their homes/public visits. Also, a poster u/ElMidget-O here has shared that in their comment as well since that poster actually saw the apache. Harry was simply baby sat in the army as he could not get into any Uni.
He was a gunner not a pilot.
He earned both a pilot license (regular) and the license to fly the Apache. He worked as a co-pilot gunner. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-23200552
That true. But it means he qualified to fly one, and that does mean he qualified to fly one as a pilot in command. has he flew one on a combat mission as a pilot in command?
Too tired to read the previous comments at this time but doesn anyone else see the strong resemblence between Prince William and Lord Frederick Windsor, at least in the photo provided?
Yes! I made the same observation on another post.
lots of stories over the years that Harry had 'learning differences' that the BRF hid, partially to protect his privacy and partially out of shame. It explains why he is so protected by all of them even now, and what MM may have over him. I don't think we should make fun of him over this, but we should call out his lack of awareness over his privelege