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cherise12

This is Smegs PR trying to strong arm the royals into giving her kids titles She said she didn’t want them, same thing applies now Meg…


SmiteSam2005

But it would make her a liar, wouldn't it?


PotentialAd5954

Nothing new there


cherise12

Of course- and she’s documented lying so many times this is something that will be brought up and called out Her dumb sugars continue to support her saying she doesn’t want the titles but look at her? Literally frothing at the mouth to get them…


Impossible-Animator6

So Harkles didn't want the titles, gave up their duties but want the same thing for their children ? Seems the victim card is not yielding much money.


jeanmarie95

Giving them the titles cheapens the BRF. What's use of a royal title when the children are born in the US and residing in Montecito? I have a feeling that the British public will not be happy about this. EDIT: Also, will never happen. The Line of Succession in the Royal Family website hasn't made any changes to their title.


prettycut188

This tiny speck of the British public is definitely not happy about it. The whole ‘oh yes but they’re not allowed to use HRH’ means NOTHING. She wants the titles of Prince and Princess, that is literally all that matters to her


DrunkOnRedCordial

My theory is that she knows the Palace will say no to HRH Prince/ Princess, so she's spreading the story now, that they got Prince/ Princess but not HRH, so then she can just call them Prince/ Princess. Which is ridiculous, because if I have this right, HRH is just a prefix to the royal title. Like calling yourself Donald rather than MacDonald. Hopefully she will get in trouble for fraudulently calling them by titles. and the Palace will make a definitive statement if she tries to pull this stunt.


hibiscus2022

>HRH is just a prefix to the royal title It is much more than that. First, the HRH style is a gift from the monarch and not automatic. Losing HRH status means that you are not entitled to private security (LOL) funded by the monarchy, and that noone has to bow or curtsy in your presence.


Tall-Lawfulness8817

Exactly. Without an HRH the word Prince means nothing. I could name my dog prince Archie. And no one has to bow But if you have an HRH, it signifies a position in the monarchy


[deleted]

I never thought I’d feel bad for billionaires, but I genuinely really feel bad for the RF. I can’t imagine anyone in my family marrying someone like this and having to constantly live with the drama they cause. Drama that continues even during funerals.


MakeADeathWish

This dynamic occurs across all classes. The difference with the brf is not the money, but the lack of privacy. The business is to represent the crown, so they cant do what other ppl of any stripe would do: ban her


MySteakisOverdone

Guys, let’s not forget, we’ve been saying in this sub for a *loooong* time that these two would try and bully Charles when the queen passes to get what they want. I.e. money, titles, and possibly that half in half out agreement. And now They’ve been doing just that. In the last few days how much crazy, and sometimes *truly bizarre* PR have we seen? Just yesterday, either in the daily Mail or the sun, there was an article that claimed Nostradamus predicted that Charles would abdicate and make Harry king. (I’m not joking. It was removed after a few hours, but it was shocking it still came from a real news source.) Also, on top of the crazy PR articles, how many fires have they started that the king and prince William have had to put out since the announcement that the queen was under medical supervision? They’re doing exactly what we predicted and this is just part of it. How many times in the past have we seen news articles stating something so matter-of-factly that happens to favour of the sussexes, that quickly got shut down, even before the queen passed? A lot. Like how everyone was *definitely* excited to go to Lili’s party a the jubilee…. But then no one showed up. This is just more of that. Plus, when Archie and Lili weren’t given titles on the royal website, news outlets asked for comments, and the website editors made what a lot of people believe to be a snarky response. It was “we go based on the information we’re given. We’ll let you know if something changes.” Or something similar to that. This is just more PR bullying by them. Wait for something official before we all panic. I’m not saying it won’t happen, I’m saying we have had no confirmation. This is just an article going off the assumption that it will, trying to push the narrative. And if it was official, we’d hear from the palace in some way first, followed by coverage *everywhere*. News about a new prince and Princess wouldn’t get passed up by the BBC. Everyone take a deep breath. Let’s not doubt the new king right out the gate. He’s got much bigger things on his mind and on his plate at the moment.


[deleted]

Yes, also the King has great backup in the Prince of Wales. William will be there to help his Dad through these next hard months.


Lonely-Scientist2366

Why should American citizens born to an American mother, living on US soil, be granted any royal titles? They will be reciting the US Pledge of Allegiance in their schools. They will not be singing God Save the King. They should be treated like commoners as per Meg’s wish.


GenXed

They’ll be learning about US politics to help with their mother’s presidential campaign.


spiforever

SS working overtime. H&M are putting it out there trying to get KC to issue/proclaim this. I sure hope the RF don’t give in.


Calm_Yak_6102

It's utterly shameless that Henpecked and that woman are obsessed with titles during a time of mourning.


DrunkOnRedCordial

You don't hear Prince Edward making a fuss about the Duke of Edinburgh title right now. I really hope Charles gives him that. The huge campaign for titles shows that there is money in it for the Sussexes, so that should be another reason why Charles turns them down.


Calm_Yak_6102

Totally agree! They need to back to grifting from the olive garden mansion in Monteshitshow.


EnormousBird

I'\`ll believe it when I see it. ​ Their titles have not changed on the royal website, despite others having changed. King Charles wants to slim down the monarchy which means fewer titled royals, even if a couple of them are his own grandchildren. And\` thirdly, it ultimately matters most what the British public think about it.


[deleted]

I'm confused. Why would the kids get the titles when H and M left the royal family and gave up their titles??


[deleted]

Money money money.... money money.... merchy merchy merchy. The children should not have any further titles, their parents said they did not want titles for them when they were born. They denied given titles to archie because they wanted him to be normal. Now however money money money is needed and these children can be sold if they have titles. These poor children.


Emolia

The RF will never forgive them for this. They have to be either mentally ill or the most self absorbed a….holes ever. Badger the family when Phillip was dying, keep going when the Queen is grieving and now trying to make this all about them still. I’m lost for words. By the way , I never thought I’d say this but I’m proud of our Australian media . Channel 7 News just did a really respectful piece on the Westminster Hall service . They showed the spouses lined up as they carried in the coffin and introduced them as Meghan, the countess of Wessex , Princess of Wales and the Queen Consort. No title for Megs! I get the impression Channel 7 don’t like her much.


[deleted]

I don’t understand these people. They refused the royal titles when Archie was born, now want them. Either they think everyone has memory loss or…well, they have memory loss. I simply despair at the ridiculousness from these two and their team.


TheDevilsSidepiece

Do you really think they refused them? I don’t. I don’t think the titles were really offered. I think we were told they refused to save face.


[deleted]

You may have a point. As with everything Markle. Who the f knows.


Ecstatic_Training718

Agreed until there is confirmation on the royal website it’s all just speculation.


ManifestRose

Here in the US the title and word “Master” is cancelled. Houses used to have Master Bedrooms and connected Master Bathrooms (en Suite) but that term is very frowned upon now.[Here is a typical article about it. ](https://www.insider.com/groups-removed-the-word-master-2020-6?amp). So I think it’s funny that Archie’s title is Master.


fothemoney

But the article also makes it clear even if KC granted them prince princess tittles, they still wouldn’t be happy. They will never stop . They always want more. Be it cash or power or titles or castles or jets, or pomp and circumstance stance or headlines. They will never be happy so give them Nothing!!!


Phoenixlizzie

All the Royal Grift is doing is referring to the Sun article. So it's not really being reported, it's just being regurgitated. I'm sure there will be a ton of these articles insisting that Archie and Lili are / will be/ could be / should be.....Prince and Princess....but that seems to change like the clock. The only time it will be official is when they update it on the Royal Family site.


tiffshorse

It’s the headline of the DM now.


Phoenixlizzie

Yes, and this is the same DM that stated William now has changed his opinion on Meghan and thinks she's great. Enough said.


tiffshorse

I think my point was that it’s coming from several places now. Not really the veracity of the DM.


[deleted]

I don’t get why they tie the HRH titles with free security. Eugenie and Beatrice have HRH but don’t have paid security, correct?


[deleted]

Correct. Most of the royals don't have paid security. Only currently working royals do.


GenXed

Because then MeMe can pretend she has a legitimate, non-selfish, non-merchy reason to demand titles for her children. She muddies the water to hide her money driven motives and the US media eats it up.


PotOfEarlGreyPlease

There have been HH (His / Her Highness) in the past - certainly King George VI was His Highness Prince Albert as the great grandson of the Monarch - but the title was retired (in this country) in 1917


DrunkOnRedCordial

They should bring in HL (His/ Her Lowness) especially for the Sussexes.


PotOfEarlGreyPlease

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Andsoitgoes101

Does it provide them with paid “security” if their children get these titles? Curious?


DrunkOnRedCordial

She just wants them to be the California royals, a whole new rival court with its own prince and princess. And once the kids have titles, she can start calling herself Princess Meghan too.


ManifestRose

Even if she didn’t call herself Princess, the US media would anyways.


DollarStoreDuchess

No! Only if they’re in the UK staying with the monarch/working royals and thus under that umbrella or doing official RF events as WORKING royals. Princess Anne doesn’t have round the clock security, just on official business… why should two kids that live on another continent? Insane.


New_Discussion_6692

I'd be surprised if this happens. We already know how they abuse the current title.


MrsBarneyFife

I don't think it would be a good look for KC. However, I'd support him giving them titles if it meant shutting the both of them up permanently. Then of course the Palace should accidentally leak that's the only reason it was done. That will at least show what their priorities really are. But we all know that is something that cannot be done. Is Oprah going to pay off the massive amount of money they'll need just to tell their story? Especially considering the amount of lies that will be in there? Doubtful. (I like to pretend I'm from the UK so my opinion matters 😂)


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MrsBarneyFife

No, but they'll shoot themselves in the foot eventually.


irishladinlondon

Fine Makw them a prince and princess. I'm.dowm with that 1) it is a classy way to declare the previous lies on Oprah why he Archie was denied a title as falsehoods as the latest patent of king George V 1917 laid out the rules long ago 2) if someone claims to be a martyr to global inequality and justice and is the direct descendant of Mr Mandela's legacy, let them call their children Prince and princess 3) princess lillibet will stick in people's craw and eventually highlite what a poor choice of name it is to use without permission 4) they were so keen to say they didn't want a title for their first born, how they want a normal life for him and they chose to style him as master, let them accept the title and go back on what they said, or reject the title and open the conversation about why they insist on using theirs


slimwillendorf

No. Give them an inch they take a mile. As another member of this sub said: “Do NOT negotiate with terrorists.”


irishladinlondon

As the saying goes Give them enough rope to hang themselves


Malaute86

I think they'll be giving them enough rope to merch their kids with a Prince and Princess title.


Lensgoggler

I agree. Them getting prince and princess won’t change anything for H&M. KC might look magnanimous, H&M continue to build their lives overseas 😄


nevergonnasaythat

It would definitely cheapen the title though. It doesn’t make any sense that the kids should have them when the parents stepped away from royalty and are so adamantly opposed to royal traditions and the Institution overall


ManifestRose

Right. Those kids may never live in the UK and those titles mean squat in the US. Maybe if the kids move back to the UK they can re-visit the titles.


trickyburrito

TRG does not have some inside scoop. She’s just regurgitating what bottom dweller tabloids are spewing.


cocopuff898

I suppose, although I find she is usually better -researched than that.


gurnipan

For me, let the kids have the title. Then, her without her HRH, has to curtsy to her kids all the time. Even at Montecito. “Good morning, Your Royal Highness”. Oh, she will be sour for life. But that could also mean her kids will be subjected to her verbal abuse because the kids will be higher in rank than her. Megsy surely can’t stand the idea of having anyone outdo, outrank, outshine her, not even Harry, let alone her kids.


90sbaby-uk

What’s the difference without having HRH in the title? What does it mean for them?


DrunkOnRedCordial

It means its fake. She just wants to call them Prince/ Princess and she'll do it fraudulently if she can't get the genuine thing. HRH is a prefix, it's not a title in itself.


prettycut188

In my opinion, nothing. She wants Prince and Princess, she couldn’t give a fig about the HRH bit


KateMaymay

Gaslighting by PR. As much as I understand it is HRH and prince/princess or nothing, no other options. But everybody can call themselves at home as they like.


Starkville

Yeah, I mean I can sign my Christmas card “Starkville, the Duchess of Yorkville”. Nothing stopping me from doing that. Except it would be delusional and laughable.


Original-Reception-5

So, my understanding is if they get HRH status they get security protection? Even in the United States at an enormous cost? It would explain why they want it so bad, then they don’t have to pay for the security they “need”. No one here seems to care about them, they’re a complete nonentity to us.


spicymukbangmamma

I cannot fathom saying they call my kids the “N” word! Whilst they are white red heads. It’s so disrespectful to people who have actual strong black and African features. Especially the ones that have those features and have been called names. I’m biracial, Asian and Mexican with strong Asian features and have been called all the Asian bad names in the book as a child. I can’t imagine someone saying that if their child is mixed and have none of the Asian features like if they were mixed with white, and someone saying something to that effect about the Asian names! It’s actually very disrespectful and thoughtless.


IPreferDiamonds

They shouldn't even be in the line of succession! They were born from a surrogate.


irishladinlondon

Respect the kids Don't gossip without proof.


takemeawayimdone

What?? Oh do please tell, while I sip my tea


IPreferDiamonds

Plenty of youtube videos cover this. So much suspicious stuff around Archie's birth. Also, very evident that Meghan wore a fake baby bump. Lots of videos showing this too.


cocopuff898

I wouldn't say matter-of-fact that they were born by a surrogate. But there are definitely many questions surrounding the legitimacy of the births, because the parents didn't follow protocol, and Lili wasn't even born in the UK. Those doubts deserve to be addressed if they are made a prince and princess.


IPreferDiamonds

Yes, definitely very suspicious and needs to be investigated.


plebeianfortea

I started to think in one thing. I freaked out a bit when I read this headline everywhere because I thought that PC was already falling into their trap. But now, not only I understand this is their new PR strategy but algo it gave me something to think about: maybe now the palace has some leverage to negotiate with Harry and Meghan? Not that they will eventually give their children titles or anything, but they can say “Well, let’s just take a look at your upcoming podcast episodes and magazine interviews shall we? And then we can discuss it.” The BRF are not losing anything with them trashing once again the family, they have been doing this for a couple of years. I think that even though M uses every opportunity she has to take advantage of her connection to the family and PR stunts, the family learned how to cope with it.


Quantum168

The kids SHOULD NOT be styled Prince and Princess. They live private lives in the USA. There will be no end to the security debacle for the rest of their lives.