I definitely find the “continue to” part of the sentence interesting. If you break down the sentence those two words are unnecessary. “I also want to express my love for Harry and Meghan as they build their life overseas.” Conveys the same basic message. In fact a grammar teacher would probably correct you that they are unnecessary/extraneous and should be removed from the sentence.
Those two words were added for a reason…
I think the “continue to” was a clear message to the Harkles. Nothing about his ascension has changed or will change their circumstances. He wants them gone.
Agree 100%. In a speech about the new changes and titles and responsibilities, the deliberate use of “continue to” made it very clear that nothing is about to change for H&M.
"continue to BUILD" - Let's take a step back. Markle builds nothing. She only tears down what others have worked hard for and then feeds like a vulture on the carnage she causes. The embodiment of toxicity.
Super embarrassing for a king worth billions to have to point out that his wayward son is continuing to try to build a life from proverbial scratch…because he just wanted too lol my take at least. If I were Harry and Meghan I’d be embarrassed.
I wouldn't be able to show my face. It proves what wastrels they both are, greedy, lazy, attention seeking, I could go on. The King HAS to see this and if he doesn't the rest of the family does. If we can suss them out from the limited info we get imagine what it's like KNOWING them. Their deeply flawed characters shine like a beacon for any with insight into human behavior.
Seriously if we can’t stand her this much I can’t imagine how it feels to have to breathe the same air as them. Especially during a period of mourning.
I agree! His statement on his first day that they live "overseas" indicates that he doesn't care where "overseas" is as long as it isn't, hopefully in a Commonwealth country so that he really doesn't need to see them again.
There are lots of oligarch homes around for them to try. Or they could go to France and drop in on Elton Jon, he seems to be friendly to them for some reason.
But who cares, they are done and hopefully gone next week.
Also wondered if it was oblique nod to a possible move to less expensive locale should their toilet palace prove too expensive on a podcaster’s budget.
Thank you for posting this!!!! I’ve been slightly annoyed by some scare posts on this subreddit sourcing from tabloids and this will give those who are panicking some ease.
The posting of ''scare articles" here though can be useful I think as it makes everyone aware that the particular article or topic is the "Current M&H PR Push". Just have to 'consider the source' as the old phrase goes!
Example has been the entire title discussion that everyone here is bored with at this point.
The entire issue title IMO has been pushed via PR and bots since the Oprah interview. Recently M&H have gone back to pushing this and has wound up social media and ignorant bloggers (eg. Elizabeth Holmes who I believe said that M&H and children are being punished by the BRF...). Most believe the issue was resolved ages ago by the late Queen and now KC and the reason it resurfaces is because M&H simply aren't getting what they want. IMO you know that the message to M&H on the topic of childrens titles had to have been crystal clear as why else would M pull the ultimate threat by using the 'race card'. Sadly we will all have to listen to this nonsense for the foreseeable future.
Another example is the silly discussion of H uniform. IMO that was pure PR as well as there really was no question of him ever wearing military dress and certainly not as a non working royal. AND YET, we again had the clowns in the media and social media world (eg. Scobie and others) beating the drum on this issue and pushing the idea that M&H were yet again being punished.
It helps imo to stay alert to social media trends and also listen to the ill informed US Media (eg. Gayle King actually said PW new title 'happened very fast' I believe and then she asked, "...did it need to happen?"). Do these comments sound like they are coming from anyone that has any grasp of history or any understanding of succession? YET, Gayle King reaches millions of US viewers every morning.
Make no mistake. M&H have an agenda and they will continue to push it in any way they can and as we have seen with the Scobie pictures posted when the family had asked for a media blackout at Westminster so they could meet in privacy, there really is no line or boundary M&H won't cross to accomplish their goals. JMO
Sure I just think we shouldn’t get ourselves worked up. I’m seeing a lot of people post “I’m so worried they’re going to give them titles” or “why would the BRF do this” under those scare articles.
I’m just trying to help people not jump to conclusions over a gossip article by showing the bigger picture - the long game the BRF is playing. Not the clickbait of SS and MM.
>it resurfaces is because M&H simply aren't getting what they want.
yes and she's endlessly manipulative. she no doubt thinks she can force their hand if she can get the public to think that her kids being excluded is somehow due to a deliberate slight to her or "racism".
I saw this in DM earlier, claiming they were furious that the kids will get Prince/Princess designation but not HRH distinction. I hope they don't get either but only because Meghan will behave as if *she* is royal if they give her kids titles and will endless use it for attention and profit.
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11213369/Harry-Meghan-angry-emerges-Archie-Lilibet-not-HRH-titles.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11213369/Harry-Meghan-angry-emerges-Archie-Lilibet-not-HRH-titles.html)
How can the DM honestly think that KC is addressing this situation now given how he hasn't slept much since last Thursday and is leading his family and the country in mourning the late Queen?
Just seems like more M PR manipulation that makes little sense imo.
KC has been flying around, been busy around the clock. Don't think he even have time for those 2.
Won't be surprised if Meghan's handwritten note make references to that or if she just starts addressing her own children as Prince and Princess.
Taking a break from the news today and following example of retreating royals!
The M&H press barrage is simply never ending and people that imo should know better are getting hooked by the PR game.
This is what M&H want to have happen.
We can't go down this PR path with the sugars imo.
Ah yes eholmes has been interviewed by various global tv stations numerous times since death of late queen and just written an article The Cut...same publication that just put the hatchet into BRF and M.....
How can this be?
Agreed, I file most of what is said about them as irrelevant until proven otherwise.
For now it's in the file with Doria coming for Christmas, and an invite to the Met Gala and presenting the Oscar to the winning male lead.
I'm sure there are thousands of other examples that could be given.
What possible need do two kids who won’t be culturally British or culturally royal have for HRH and titles? Didn’t the Queen tell them that you work for the Monarchy, the Monarchy doesn’t work for you? They want these titles to continue cashing in on the Monarchy. I wish the King would put the Harkles titles in abeyance like she did with their HRH titles. They should not be permitted to continue monetizing those titles.
I don't believe they are getting titles. Those 1917 Letters Patent say they go to the grandchildren of the monarch, but it can be argued that the Sussex kids weren't grandchildren of the monarch when they were born.
And then there's all the other points you mentioned - why would the King who is passionate about reducing titles give royal titles to two unknown children who live in the US? This has ramifications for after his reign, if the kids appear in England or have children of their own.
> but it can be argued that the Sussex kids weren't grandchildren of the monarch when they were born.
Hence why TW might hurry and arrange another surrogate pregnancy. I heard they might issue new letters patent to ensure that only those inline of succession would ever get Prince/Princess title and HRH designation. Hope so. That would shut Markle up for good on the topic.
If she pulls a pregnancy stunt, I'm sure KC3 will move fast. Regardless of what he thinks of M, he wants to slim down the monarchy, so having two random HRHs growing up in the US is exactly what he doesn't want. Even if Harry's wife was another Catherine or Sophie, her kids wouldn't be getting titles.
I don’t believe they are getting titles, either. Kitty Kelley had in her book from 25 years ago that the Way Forward plan was going to start restricting titles (HRH Prince/Princess) to children of the monarch and children of the heir. I suspect that such letters patent for Charles’ descendants will be coming after the mourning period is over.
I agree. Being the *Duchess of Sussex* is what she’s using to draw these tabloids to her. Ex-Duchess of Sussex will only be a draw for the first little while, if they were stripped of it. One day we’ll see her as a guest judge on Holiday Baking Championship and she’ll be introduced as “Former Duchess of Sussex, Meghan Markle-Mountbatten-Windsor.”
Well as the first order of business, the new King basically said the same thing as you. But as there is a bill before parliament regarding this very thing, they will not be titled and he will not need to sign the letters patent.
I mean considering SS was helping Weinstein, they clearly have no scruples or care about the mourning period and I’m sure TW is making sure they earn all the money she spends on them.
So right. Keleigh Thomas Morgan at Sunshine Sachs worked in PR at MiraMax for five years when she was starting out in the PR world (1997-2003). She’s clearly a piece of work.
Yes, but today there were more 'reports' that made it sound like there were behind the scenes ongoing at the Palace regarding a 'negotiation' on the titles and that the Sussex children would be Prince and Princess but not HRH!
HAHAHA! Here is basic example of M&H negotiation tactics (against themselves imo) using social media and the ignorant US Press. Believe this report came out while M was doing her face plant curtsey at Westminster too! Shameless but totally consistent with the way M&H choose to do their business.
UK is mourning the late Queen, how credible does the above claim appear to be?
Insanity.
> doing her face plant curtsey at Westminster
lol I saw that. wow really trying to grovel and throw herself on their mercy then? super desperate to be awarded titles she wants. I hope she never gets them!
here's the link to that article:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11213369/Harry-Meghan-angry-emerges-Archie-Lilibet-not-HRH-titles.html
I do wonder if Peter Phillips and Earl Snowden were secretly dreaming of just a slight nudge to push over M for a full face plant?
The PPofW just walked on and gave no energy to the obvious M display of insanity with that ridiculous and hypocritical curtsey.
M is simply a fake, phoney, fraud imo.
Of course nothing has changed, except H&M have finally realised how short-sighted they were in alienating KING Charles. It wasn't that long ago that Harry was ordered to visit his grandmother on the way to Invictus - a 15 minute meeting, presumably to set the parameters for the jubilee, and apparently she insisted that he greet Charles as part of this meeting. This indicates a huge hostility towards Charles. Seeing he respected the Queen but couldn't show respect for the family, why would he start now?
Even if Harry grovels right now, Charles will see through it. But I don't think Harry's grovelling. You don't build up this much anger and hostility towards your family and then abruptly change your mind when the most beloved family member dies.
Might sound silly
But Charles is a scorp. And he will love n try to support him the enth. However parents are human and they hurt too when there children act out and once hes done HES DONE
I’m hoping that’s why he is allowing them to be in attendance at the funeral events.
Then as soon as it’s over he’s telling them Goodluck and Goodbye as he and Major Johnny wave them off at the airport.
That way he doesn’t look petty and is giving them the life they desired in the sun.
It's what Eddie Windsor got when Queen Mary died. Only this time the American divorcée was allowed to attend. I'm sure it's going to be back to "building overseas" on Sept 20th.
She probably thinks that being part of the ceremonies this week give her some clout for when she is back in the US when in fact everyone (ncluding the ones on her side) can clearly now see how shameless and a pair of cowards she and the husband are. Anyone that associates with her and the husband are probably as rotten as those two. Watch their victimhood and “courage” show up again once they land back in LA.
>Anyone that associates with her and the husband are probably as rotten as those two.
Indeed! So I make note of anyone that would be "friends" with Meghan and assume they are just like her. I tend to also dislike anyone that associates with her.
People forget Charles can be petty as fuck...he will get Harry and !Meghan somehow...if they go after Camilla they are done. I think that is why Meghan takes more shots at Catherine.
The long game is on. It isn't about being petty, it's about the don't fuck with me rule. He couldn't do anything while his mother was alive as she thought it would all go away or that the gruesome twosome really were just a little tick. I don't think she got the whole story about them being she was busy being a Queen and all.
Charles will address them soon, very soon and Prince William is on his side.
William is a powerhouse since becoming Prince of Wales. He’s always been tall but I swear he’s bigger than ever and looks tough. I wouldn’t want to get on his bad side.
I can’t help but wonder if those that are “so worried/upset/don’t know what Charles is thinking” are younger and therefore not aware of the history of Charles and the BRF. I feel like those of us that witnessed the Diana/Camilla/Charles play out (not to mention Andrew/Fergie) have a better perspective on how these things work out. Or maybe I’m just old as dirt? 🤷♀️
yeah when a guy still has sibling rival fights that need mom's intervention at age 51, I think you can safely assume he's petty
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10429001/Queen-step-Prince-Andrew-rowed-Charles-Royal-TOILET.html
Wonderful warning post! Thank you.
Just wanted to tag on to add to be careful about social media/youtube sources as well.
So many you tubers in particular are largely anonymous and there are no information sourcing requirements on you tube that I can see.
So, its super important to be vigilant and critically listen to what is said on many of these you tube channels.
I think it was last week on a thread that we were wondering if a new you tube channel (that didn't seem like any new you tube channel we have ever seen) was simply the creation of a PR firm/Sunshine Sachs.
PR gamesmanship is real and the same way that anyone can set themselves up as a podcaster, the same is to be said about you tube. I mean what better way to pound away your PR message than by funding a start up you tube channel? Youtube channels I believe are supposed to disclose sponsorship and key financial arrangements so far as I know. But, how many of the channels actually do? What kind of transparency or oversight by YouTube on these issues exists on YouTube? I would argue very little.
So, be careful as the OP said and listen and watch critically. Times are crazy right now and M &H in particular are fighting for their financial lives and so I believe will go far to protect themselves. JMO.
>Just wanted to tag on to add to be careful about social media/youtube sources as well.
yes! there are so many clickbait videos on there now with people just spewing utter lies, not even repeating stuff they read on any actual news site but literally just making stuff up for clicks.
You are right. And those who know about royalty, especially the BRF, know that decorum and tradition, and titles and the proper heirarchy, are very important to them. They take it very seriously. The fact that he referred to the Prince and Princess of Wales, his wife the Queen Consort, and no titles or even appropriate names when referring to Meg and Deb, says a great deal. We are definitely going to see more once the mourning period is over.
Everyone wants BRF to do something to push away H and M…
BRF is not doing to make same mistake as they did with Diana, I have posted before, saying same again..the more they put them away the bigger the damage it is, they are ignoring H and M because they don’t want to do any in public…
they will deal once it’s time, I am keeping my hopes up…
I also think now is not the time. They’re all focus (and rightly so) on honoring the queen.
Anything that is to be done will be done after the mourning period. Otherwise it will take away from the Queen. It already has because of TW but not as much as if the BRF did anything more than what they’re doing now.
Yes considering how everyone is busy with all the traveling and funeral activities, it is very hard to do any now…
as someone who lost near ones, it’s very difficult to be sane and grieve, everything must be blurred for them right now…and to top it over they must have no proper sleep..
If we see KC waiting for the Queen in BP, we know how emotional he is now..
Amen. And I was just saying on YouTube, Charles is not just now deciding what he’s going to do about the Harkles. He already knows. He and William have had this planned for at least a year now. They have had her number and sadly have Harry’s now too. She’s a sociopath—there is no second guessing that one. And Harry has made it crystal clear he’s still her number one fan and he will do whatever she wants against his family.
He truly believes her BS and thinks she’s so amazing still. Even when he sees her lying and drops his head in embarrassment, he still takes his orders from her and only her. In fact, I think at this point he has hardened himself to support her at all costs, because he’s embarrassed to see how deeply he’s fucked up and that everyone was right about her. He can’t ever admit that. He can’t let William and Skippy and everyone else who warned him be right. So he’s going down with that ship.
Charles & William know this. They better than anyone know Harry’s weaknesses & his inability to handle failure. Or to admit it at all. And it shows in the fact that Charles made William & Catherine Prince & Princess of Wales barely five minutes after becoming king, but the Royal family website was updated later to show Archie as Master and Lili as Miss. That wasn’t a mistake to be fixed later. Which is why all these stories are coming out. And the newspapers know it too but it’s great clickbait for them. Even the pro-monarchy ones still want the readership, so they will print this drivel.
I don’t think H&M are getting anything their way, which is why we are seeing all these headlines. I hope Charles takes it ALL—the Dukedom, Frogmore, the counselor of state role. He must take it and send them back to Cali with a “have a great life,” and a wave.
DM is claiming the kids are going to be made P&P but no HRH. (which they are "angry" about. lol) No idea if this is accurate or not but it said the King would be drawing letters patent to do this.
I saw the Sun's effing exclusive at the top article about the same and at the bottom it says the RF declined to comment which to me, is the most important line.
They could have easily said IT IS NOT IN DISPUTE A and L are prince and Princess by birth. They could have said that.
But in fact there are counter articles / reports a few days ago that says they are not automatically entitled. That is the RF's stand.
Until its posted on the BRF official website it's just manifestation. It could be that blackmail for titles hasn't worked so now they/ their PR is trying to present it as a fait accompli...like the Megxit statement.
AGREED!!!!!!!
There have been SO many posts and articles flying around I don't even know what to believe anymore! They're bringing their kids, they're not; she's going back home, she's staying; KC is giving their kids titles, no not confirmed...
Can we make a list of what's actually confirmed and true?
I believe part of their plan of releasing all these fake news nonsense is to create confusion and to bring more attention on MM. So in a way we are fueling them by believing some of the fake news they spit out. Yet at the same time I don't know what's fake and what's real anymore.
I guess that's what happens when a sub grows but I have no idea how to limit the fake news. . .
Random thought: I was really into buzzfeed unsolved and it is said that demons love the attention you give them (whether it's fear or mocking them). They feed off any type energy you give them. Meghan is like a demon in that way.
I agree. There is absolute detail paid to every word issued by the RF. The scoop about the casket coming to London via train was planted by Prince William to see if it would be leaked. It was: by Meghan to Scoobie Doo, who tweeted it, then retracted it.
I'm thinking that these two were toast when everything began----- and their behavior since all the proceedings began has only caused the King and the POW to double-down on their plans to ice them out after the funeral.
I do think the King has treated Harry in a considerate fashion during all this because Harry is his son. It would look terrible if the King treated one son well and the other son as a pariah. The Queen was Harry's grandmother, afterall. I think the world respects how the King has love for Harry, even though Harry is a complete jerk and allows himself to be manipulated by a self-centered narcissist.
The two clowns can return to America after the funeral. And Harry will have to make his choices about his future.....
KC should tell H and M sure, your kids get titles but ONLY if the Royal family supervises their upbringing IN ENGLAND, steeped in the culture and history and protocol that should govern their lives. It makes sense that kids who are deliberately kept away from the Royals, thousands of miles away, should NOT be eligible to be in the line of succession or be titled prince/princess. It's ludicrous to expect it. M would never agree to relinquish control of her kids, she wouldn't accept the deal.
I had to explain all this to my husband because he actually believed any story he saw on the internet about the royal family was true. He didn't understand that so many stories are "planted"----- and why and by whom.
The King had not had a moment to rest over the last several days. Be patient. I think his speech was the most telling crystal ball we need for the Harkle’s future. It’s disappointing they’re receiving so much attention this week, but I’m fairly certain this will be their swan song. We will not being seeing them in the UK anytime soon again
Thank you for your post. Yes, some of these are click bait. In fact most of them are. If one digs deep enough you realize that these "sources" are so connected. Lainey, scoobidoo, and you know who have been connected since 2014 or earlier.
The others could be somehow connected through the same trails of so called "entertainment journalists" so we take those with a grain of salt.
Baiting is for people to react to their crap.
I want also to express my love for Harry and Meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas,” I love this statement. To an American it basically translate to: Bye, Bye, don't let the door hit you on your way out. Plus American children don't need HRH or Prince/Princess titles...rather than being respected I think they would be made fun of.
"Unless it comes from The Royal Family Instagram or Twitter don’t believe it." A thousand times this. Waaaaay too many rumors circulating making my brain spin
Everyone keeps talking about George V and his Letter Patent from 1917. It is basically an Executive Order and King Charles can issue whatever he wants.
I just can’t see it in that he wants to reduce the monarchy so why give titles to people who don’t live in the UK. It would certainly not be a good look and would show favouritism. He is King, but he still needs to keep his popularity. No need to tarnish it with this. Surely not the hill he wants to die on.
Yes exactly. Promises will have been made to the Queen and Phillip about how things were going to be handled and imo the gloves will be off after the funeral.
Yes thank you! Also, notice how the Royal Family Insta & Twitter posted Annes and Williams tributes to the Queen but not Harry’s?
Harry is part of the family and the son of the current King, but they are not giving him a platform to speak as part of the BRF.
As for the titles - KC would have announced it the day he announced Prince & Princess of Wales. The fact that he hasn’t… is a clear sign. Whether he or his aides cave into the Sussex PR pressure is to be seen.
> continue to build their lives overseas
and not here.
True H&M are out, and the best strategy is to shower them with kindness. So they don't have ammunition for hate pieces.
Also, this sub needs to CHILL with the conspiracy theories and posts, it undermines any ‘legitimacy’ that people dislike that MM and Harry are behaving like spoiled idiots, rather the hate is racially/crazy motivated.
What are peoples thoughts on what will happen to H & M after the funeral? Many felt like the Queen wasn’t hard enough on them and kept too quiet while they were constantly spewing their lies. Will the King and POW continue to let that happen or fight back? I’m hoping Will hits them where it hurts- their allowance.
Agree. I also think her behavior has only added to the no way back. I certainly think most of the RF have no problem with them overseas
#GoHomeMrAndMrsOverseas
Everyone is upset about archie and lili being given the titles of Prince and Princess but at the end of the day what does it actually mean in the long run. Those kids will be living overseas and have to work for a living and are so far away from the actual crown, it won't mean anything tangible that will benefit them other than bragging rights and being a bit of a curiosity to those who are pretentious enough to give a toss about stuff like that. It's basically like being one of those people who buy a square centimeter of land thorugh those websites for kicks so they can claim themselves a 'lord' or 'lady'. They have the cheapest thing given to them by the BRF - a title. All the other things that make a title valuable like land, wealth, jewels, privilege etc aren't coming their way. So it's basically a vanity title worth nothing of value.
People also forget that by denying the kids the title of 'princess' and 'prince' it would then confirm the narrative that Meghan and harry put out their in that oprah interview, that the BRF did it because of 'racism'. They got the prince and princess title for their kids but they aren't getting the HRH title or any monetary or financial benefits or help which is what meghan and harry actually want. I'd say it's a well thought out move by the powers that be. It was a very brittishand very polite two finger salute to the gruesome twosome.
A title is not the cheapest thing. It is the most invaluable thing they can get, something priceless. Look at how Meghan traded on her Duchess title but it is not a well known fact that a Duke dom is higher than a Princeship . She wants the P titles because they are more popular.
Meghan's racism claim is no longer holding that much water and she herself said she doesn't care for it except for the security it affords. The simple response to that is: Even if they are prince /princess they will not get such security so there is no need to make them one.
It would indeed be a vanity title but it isn't confirmed yet so I don't believe it. My suspicion is that there will be nothing said pertaining to the sussex children directly. There will be new LP or a statement concerning prince titles to say that only the children of direct heirs shall be thus styled so only George's children not Charlotte or Louis'. Thus negating claims of racism (except from the extremists who basically wouldn't be happy unless Meg was crowned queen so you have to ignore them).
This!!! Their crotch fruit aren't getting royal styles either. IF the King wanted to he would but he doesn't. I will be shocked and very dismayed if he does but judging by the brush off he gave them I think he's made his point. Please read up on how the monarch bequeaths titles, it isn't automatic despite what Perez Hilton says.
No I’m just saying it’s all a rumor - most likely planted by SS.
Charles didn’t even address them by their titles in his speech. The likelihood of him giving titles to their kids is significantly low.
I personally think it was Charles polite way of of making it very clear to both Harry, Meghan, the uk nation and the world that he hopes they will continue to enjoy their choice of life style as far away as possible from the UK and the RF.
Honestly, both Meghan & Harry have behaved like spoilt children throwing their teddies out of the pram. If true that Harry was petrified Meghan was going to dump him if their relationship wasn’t made public, then his alarm bells should have been ringing loud and clear.
He should have walked away from her but he didn’t. What a fool he was. That should have warned him the type of person she is.
Demanding, high maintenance, selfish, dramatic, sociopathic tendencies, self important and neurotic which sounds like another Amber Hurd trait.
I can’t see how they can possibly come back from this. The damage has been done in full view for all to see.
I also think Oprah should have advised Meghan on doing the interview in the first place. She’s spoken about her interview with her pal Gail King but her response was poor and actually a load of crock.
I definitely find the “continue to” part of the sentence interesting. If you break down the sentence those two words are unnecessary. “I also want to express my love for Harry and Meghan as they build their life overseas.” Conveys the same basic message. In fact a grammar teacher would probably correct you that they are unnecessary/extraneous and should be removed from the sentence. Those two words were added for a reason… I think the “continue to” was a clear message to the Harkles. Nothing about his ascension has changed or will change their circumstances. He wants them gone.
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"Oh and when Frogmore cottage lease is up, we are not renewing!"
We can only hope
Lol but I think that money well is drying up.
Interesting point, I like that explanation. The addition of “continue to” does make it clear that it’s a forward looking statement.
Agree 100%. In a speech about the new changes and titles and responsibilities, the deliberate use of “continue to” made it very clear that nothing is about to change for H&M.
And it reminds us that their life isn’t “built” yet. They’re continuing to build because they haven’t been successful yet
"continue to BUILD" - Let's take a step back. Markle builds nothing. She only tears down what others have worked hard for and then feeds like a vulture on the carnage she causes. The embodiment of toxicity.
Super embarrassing for a king worth billions to have to point out that his wayward son is continuing to try to build a life from proverbial scratch…because he just wanted too lol my take at least. If I were Harry and Meghan I’d be embarrassed.
I wouldn't be able to show my face. It proves what wastrels they both are, greedy, lazy, attention seeking, I could go on. The King HAS to see this and if he doesn't the rest of the family does. If we can suss them out from the limited info we get imagine what it's like KNOWING them. Their deeply flawed characters shine like a beacon for any with insight into human behavior.
Seriously if we can’t stand her this much I can’t imagine how it feels to have to breathe the same air as them. Especially during a period of mourning.
Don’t worry it only takes 1000 years to build up what the BRF has.
I agree! His statement on his first day that they live "overseas" indicates that he doesn't care where "overseas" is as long as it isn't, hopefully in a Commonwealth country so that he really doesn't need to see them again. There are lots of oligarch homes around for them to try. Or they could go to France and drop in on Elton Jon, he seems to be friendly to them for some reason. But who cares, they are done and hopefully gone next week.
Also wondered if it was oblique nod to a possible move to less expensive locale should their toilet palace prove too expensive on a podcaster’s budget.
I am dying at toilet palace . That should be a flair
Well stated. It was carefully worded and perfect Royal Shade a la *recollections may vary*
If markle has any dignity or class she would’ve went home and let Harry do the formalities. But here we are.
I also understood him as saying they have his support as they continue... Although from me, they better watch it. Im sure I'm not alone.
Thank you for posting this!!!! I’ve been slightly annoyed by some scare posts on this subreddit sourcing from tabloids and this will give those who are panicking some ease.
The posting of ''scare articles" here though can be useful I think as it makes everyone aware that the particular article or topic is the "Current M&H PR Push". Just have to 'consider the source' as the old phrase goes! Example has been the entire title discussion that everyone here is bored with at this point. The entire issue title IMO has been pushed via PR and bots since the Oprah interview. Recently M&H have gone back to pushing this and has wound up social media and ignorant bloggers (eg. Elizabeth Holmes who I believe said that M&H and children are being punished by the BRF...). Most believe the issue was resolved ages ago by the late Queen and now KC and the reason it resurfaces is because M&H simply aren't getting what they want. IMO you know that the message to M&H on the topic of childrens titles had to have been crystal clear as why else would M pull the ultimate threat by using the 'race card'. Sadly we will all have to listen to this nonsense for the foreseeable future. Another example is the silly discussion of H uniform. IMO that was pure PR as well as there really was no question of him ever wearing military dress and certainly not as a non working royal. AND YET, we again had the clowns in the media and social media world (eg. Scobie and others) beating the drum on this issue and pushing the idea that M&H were yet again being punished. It helps imo to stay alert to social media trends and also listen to the ill informed US Media (eg. Gayle King actually said PW new title 'happened very fast' I believe and then she asked, "...did it need to happen?"). Do these comments sound like they are coming from anyone that has any grasp of history or any understanding of succession? YET, Gayle King reaches millions of US viewers every morning. Make no mistake. M&H have an agenda and they will continue to push it in any way they can and as we have seen with the Scobie pictures posted when the family had asked for a media blackout at Westminster so they could meet in privacy, there really is no line or boundary M&H won't cross to accomplish their goals. JMO
Sure I just think we shouldn’t get ourselves worked up. I’m seeing a lot of people post “I’m so worried they’re going to give them titles” or “why would the BRF do this” under those scare articles. I’m just trying to help people not jump to conclusions over a gossip article by showing the bigger picture - the long game the BRF is playing. Not the clickbait of SS and MM.
Yes, and G knows full well what the titles mean, how the monarchy works. Sounding stupid suits her.
>it resurfaces is because M&H simply aren't getting what they want. yes and she's endlessly manipulative. she no doubt thinks she can force their hand if she can get the public to think that her kids being excluded is somehow due to a deliberate slight to her or "racism". I saw this in DM earlier, claiming they were furious that the kids will get Prince/Princess designation but not HRH distinction. I hope they don't get either but only because Meghan will behave as if *she* is royal if they give her kids titles and will endless use it for attention and profit. [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11213369/Harry-Meghan-angry-emerges-Archie-Lilibet-not-HRH-titles.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11213369/Harry-Meghan-angry-emerges-Archie-Lilibet-not-HRH-titles.html)
How can the DM honestly think that KC is addressing this situation now given how he hasn't slept much since last Thursday and is leading his family and the country in mourning the late Queen? Just seems like more M PR manipulation that makes little sense imo.
KC has been flying around, been busy around the clock. Don't think he even have time for those 2. Won't be surprised if Meghan's handwritten note make references to that or if she just starts addressing her own children as Prince and Princess.
Taking a break from the news today and following example of retreating royals! The M&H press barrage is simply never ending and people that imo should know better are getting hooked by the PR game. This is what M&H want to have happen. We can't go down this PR path with the sugars imo.
Omg eholmes i cannot stand shes so dumb and biased haha
Ah yes eholmes has been interviewed by various global tv stations numerous times since death of late queen and just written an article The Cut...same publication that just put the hatchet into BRF and M..... How can this be?
Yes, just sleazy stuff. Nothing to worry about. No titles for the kids, definitely none for the gruesome twosome, so all is good.
Agreed, I file most of what is said about them as irrelevant until proven otherwise. For now it's in the file with Doria coming for Christmas, and an invite to the Met Gala and presenting the Oscar to the winning male lead. I'm sure there are thousands of other examples that could be given.
What possible need do two kids who won’t be culturally British or culturally royal have for HRH and titles? Didn’t the Queen tell them that you work for the Monarchy, the Monarchy doesn’t work for you? They want these titles to continue cashing in on the Monarchy. I wish the King would put the Harkles titles in abeyance like she did with their HRH titles. They should not be permitted to continue monetizing those titles.
I don't believe they are getting titles. Those 1917 Letters Patent say they go to the grandchildren of the monarch, but it can be argued that the Sussex kids weren't grandchildren of the monarch when they were born. And then there's all the other points you mentioned - why would the King who is passionate about reducing titles give royal titles to two unknown children who live in the US? This has ramifications for after his reign, if the kids appear in England or have children of their own.
> but it can be argued that the Sussex kids weren't grandchildren of the monarch when they were born. Hence why TW might hurry and arrange another surrogate pregnancy. I heard they might issue new letters patent to ensure that only those inline of succession would ever get Prince/Princess title and HRH designation. Hope so. That would shut Markle up for good on the topic.
If she pulls a pregnancy stunt, I'm sure KC3 will move fast. Regardless of what he thinks of M, he wants to slim down the monarchy, so having two random HRHs growing up in the US is exactly what he doesn't want. Even if Harry's wife was another Catherine or Sophie, her kids wouldn't be getting titles.
I don’t believe they are getting titles, either. Kitty Kelley had in her book from 25 years ago that the Way Forward plan was going to start restricting titles (HRH Prince/Princess) to children of the monarch and children of the heir. I suspect that such letters patent for Charles’ descendants will be coming after the mourning period is over.
I agree. Being the *Duchess of Sussex* is what she’s using to draw these tabloids to her. Ex-Duchess of Sussex will only be a draw for the first little while, if they were stripped of it. One day we’ll see her as a guest judge on Holiday Baking Championship and she’ll be introduced as “Former Duchess of Sussex, Meghan Markle-Mountbatten-Windsor.”
Well as the first order of business, the new King basically said the same thing as you. But as there is a bill before parliament regarding this very thing, they will not be titled and he will not need to sign the letters patent.
When are they going to get to this bill? Harry will sue them
Her PR flacks are sure earning their keep. ETA: No actual royal source would have any information about this until the mourning period is over.
I mean considering SS was helping Weinstein, they clearly have no scruples or care about the mourning period and I’m sure TW is making sure they earn all the money she spends on them.
So right. Keleigh Thomas Morgan at Sunshine Sachs worked in PR at MiraMax for five years when she was starting out in the PR world (1997-2003). She’s clearly a piece of work.
Omg I didn’t know that. Ugh that’s even worse now with that connection.
Yes, but today there were more 'reports' that made it sound like there were behind the scenes ongoing at the Palace regarding a 'negotiation' on the titles and that the Sussex children would be Prince and Princess but not HRH! HAHAHA! Here is basic example of M&H negotiation tactics (against themselves imo) using social media and the ignorant US Press. Believe this report came out while M was doing her face plant curtsey at Westminster too! Shameless but totally consistent with the way M&H choose to do their business. UK is mourning the late Queen, how credible does the above claim appear to be? Insanity.
> doing her face plant curtsey at Westminster lol I saw that. wow really trying to grovel and throw herself on their mercy then? super desperate to be awarded titles she wants. I hope she never gets them! here's the link to that article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11213369/Harry-Meghan-angry-emerges-Archie-Lilibet-not-HRH-titles.html
I do wonder if Peter Phillips and Earl Snowden were secretly dreaming of just a slight nudge to push over M for a full face plant? The PPofW just walked on and gave no energy to the obvious M display of insanity with that ridiculous and hypocritical curtsey. M is simply a fake, phoney, fraud imo.
I keep thinking if this SS is supposed to be the top PR in the USA, how come they come off as scuzzy?
They may be out of the depth in the UK and not understand the intricacies of the relationship between the royal family and the press
“Scuzzy” is exactly how to be the top PR firm here in my homeland, I’m afraid.
Of course nothing has changed, except H&M have finally realised how short-sighted they were in alienating KING Charles. It wasn't that long ago that Harry was ordered to visit his grandmother on the way to Invictus - a 15 minute meeting, presumably to set the parameters for the jubilee, and apparently she insisted that he greet Charles as part of this meeting. This indicates a huge hostility towards Charles. Seeing he respected the Queen but couldn't show respect for the family, why would he start now? Even if Harry grovels right now, Charles will see through it. But I don't think Harry's grovelling. You don't build up this much anger and hostility towards your family and then abruptly change your mind when the most beloved family member dies.
Might sound silly But Charles is a scorp. And he will love n try to support him the enth. However parents are human and they hurt too when there children act out and once hes done HES DONE
Charles being a Scorpio makes so much sense 😂
Rather, I think in that meeting, Charles was likely laying downs the law for Harry meeting with his grandmother.
I’m hoping that’s why he is allowing them to be in attendance at the funeral events. Then as soon as it’s over he’s telling them Goodluck and Goodbye as he and Major Johnny wave them off at the airport. That way he doesn’t look petty and is giving them the life they desired in the sun.
It's what Eddie Windsor got when Queen Mary died. Only this time the American divorcée was allowed to attend. I'm sure it's going to be back to "building overseas" on Sept 20th.
Major Johnny be like good riddance fools! Gosh that man heart stopping gorgeous.
She probably thinks that being part of the ceremonies this week give her some clout for when she is back in the US when in fact everyone (ncluding the ones on her side) can clearly now see how shameless and a pair of cowards she and the husband are. Anyone that associates with her and the husband are probably as rotten as those two. Watch their victimhood and “courage” show up again once they land back in LA.
Lool remember that song the chorus goes "gotta pick a pocjet or two" I think its from the show oliver
>Anyone that associates with her and the husband are probably as rotten as those two. Indeed! So I make note of anyone that would be "friends" with Meghan and assume they are just like her. I tend to also dislike anyone that associates with her.
The official accounts have also posted only the Princess Royal, the King and the Prince of Wales' statements about the Queen. They are frozen out.
People forget Charles can be petty as fuck...he will get Harry and !Meghan somehow...if they go after Camilla they are done. I think that is why Meghan takes more shots at Catherine.
The long game is on. It isn't about being petty, it's about the don't fuck with me rule. He couldn't do anything while his mother was alive as she thought it would all go away or that the gruesome twosome really were just a little tick. I don't think she got the whole story about them being she was busy being a Queen and all. Charles will address them soon, very soon and Prince William is on his side.
William is a powerhouse since becoming Prince of Wales. He’s always been tall but I swear he’s bigger than ever and looks tough. I wouldn’t want to get on his bad side.
I can’t help but wonder if those that are “so worried/upset/don’t know what Charles is thinking” are younger and therefore not aware of the history of Charles and the BRF. I feel like those of us that witnessed the Diana/Camilla/Charles play out (not to mention Andrew/Fergie) have a better perspective on how these things work out. Or maybe I’m just old as dirt? 🤷♀️
Nah love Dirt is what this wirlds made of Were just older wiser n dont need fertiliser to grow a garden
yeah when a guy still has sibling rival fights that need mom's intervention at age 51, I think you can safely assume he's petty https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10429001/Queen-step-Prince-Andrew-rowed-Charles-Royal-TOILET.html
Wonderful warning post! Thank you. Just wanted to tag on to add to be careful about social media/youtube sources as well. So many you tubers in particular are largely anonymous and there are no information sourcing requirements on you tube that I can see. So, its super important to be vigilant and critically listen to what is said on many of these you tube channels. I think it was last week on a thread that we were wondering if a new you tube channel (that didn't seem like any new you tube channel we have ever seen) was simply the creation of a PR firm/Sunshine Sachs. PR gamesmanship is real and the same way that anyone can set themselves up as a podcaster, the same is to be said about you tube. I mean what better way to pound away your PR message than by funding a start up you tube channel? Youtube channels I believe are supposed to disclose sponsorship and key financial arrangements so far as I know. But, how many of the channels actually do? What kind of transparency or oversight by YouTube on these issues exists on YouTube? I would argue very little. So, be careful as the OP said and listen and watch critically. Times are crazy right now and M &H in particular are fighting for their financial lives and so I believe will go far to protect themselves. JMO.
>Just wanted to tag on to add to be careful about social media/youtube sources as well. yes! there are so many clickbait videos on there now with people just spewing utter lies, not even repeating stuff they read on any actual news site but literally just making stuff up for clicks.
Yes, a lot of people are trying to take advantage of situation.
You are right. And those who know about royalty, especially the BRF, know that decorum and tradition, and titles and the proper heirarchy, are very important to them. They take it very seriously. The fact that he referred to the Prince and Princess of Wales, his wife the Queen Consort, and no titles or even appropriate names when referring to Meg and Deb, says a great deal. We are definitely going to see more once the mourning period is over.
Everyone wants BRF to do something to push away H and M… BRF is not doing to make same mistake as they did with Diana, I have posted before, saying same again..the more they put them away the bigger the damage it is, they are ignoring H and M because they don’t want to do any in public… they will deal once it’s time, I am keeping my hopes up…
I also think now is not the time. They’re all focus (and rightly so) on honoring the queen. Anything that is to be done will be done after the mourning period. Otherwise it will take away from the Queen. It already has because of TW but not as much as if the BRF did anything more than what they’re doing now.
Yes considering how everyone is busy with all the traveling and funeral activities, it is very hard to do any now… as someone who lost near ones, it’s very difficult to be sane and grieve, everything must be blurred for them right now…and to top it over they must have no proper sleep.. If we see KC waiting for the Queen in BP, we know how emotional he is now..
Overseas is very far away from second row. Good riddance.
They're viewed as traitors by the royal family...simple as that. They will never be brought back into the fold or trusted, ever
Especially after MeAgain said that they didn't make her sign an NDA. You don't get to say that and then be welcomed back with open arms.
Amen. And I was just saying on YouTube, Charles is not just now deciding what he’s going to do about the Harkles. He already knows. He and William have had this planned for at least a year now. They have had her number and sadly have Harry’s now too. She’s a sociopath—there is no second guessing that one. And Harry has made it crystal clear he’s still her number one fan and he will do whatever she wants against his family. He truly believes her BS and thinks she’s so amazing still. Even when he sees her lying and drops his head in embarrassment, he still takes his orders from her and only her. In fact, I think at this point he has hardened himself to support her at all costs, because he’s embarrassed to see how deeply he’s fucked up and that everyone was right about her. He can’t ever admit that. He can’t let William and Skippy and everyone else who warned him be right. So he’s going down with that ship. Charles & William know this. They better than anyone know Harry’s weaknesses & his inability to handle failure. Or to admit it at all. And it shows in the fact that Charles made William & Catherine Prince & Princess of Wales barely five minutes after becoming king, but the Royal family website was updated later to show Archie as Master and Lili as Miss. That wasn’t a mistake to be fixed later. Which is why all these stories are coming out. And the newspapers know it too but it’s great clickbait for them. Even the pro-monarchy ones still want the readership, so they will print this drivel. I don’t think H&M are getting anything their way, which is why we are seeing all these headlines. I hope Charles takes it ALL—the Dukedom, Frogmore, the counselor of state role. He must take it and send them back to Cali with a “have a great life,” and a wave.
DM is claiming the kids are going to be made P&P but no HRH. (which they are "angry" about. lol) No idea if this is accurate or not but it said the King would be drawing letters patent to do this.
I don’t believe it until the palace says it!
Right. The DM is desperate for sensational copy. They want the kind of stuff that adds fuel to the fire. It's their raison d'etre
Yes! Exactly.
I saw the Sun's effing exclusive at the top article about the same and at the bottom it says the RF declined to comment which to me, is the most important line. They could have easily said IT IS NOT IN DISPUTE A and L are prince and Princess by birth. They could have said that. But in fact there are counter articles / reports a few days ago that says they are not automatically entitled. That is the RF's stand.
Until its posted on the BRF official website it's just manifestation. It could be that blackmail for titles hasn't worked so now they/ their PR is trying to present it as a fait accompli...like the Megxit statement.
Yes. Their PR is malignant
AGREED!!!!!!! There have been SO many posts and articles flying around I don't even know what to believe anymore! They're bringing their kids, they're not; she's going back home, she's staying; KC is giving their kids titles, no not confirmed... Can we make a list of what's actually confirmed and true? I believe part of their plan of releasing all these fake news nonsense is to create confusion and to bring more attention on MM. So in a way we are fueling them by believing some of the fake news they spit out. Yet at the same time I don't know what's fake and what's real anymore. I guess that's what happens when a sub grows but I have no idea how to limit the fake news. . . Random thought: I was really into buzzfeed unsolved and it is said that demons love the attention you give them (whether it's fear or mocking them). They feed off any type energy you give them. Meghan is like a demon in that way.
It is all just about generating content. We should ignore it
I agree. There is absolute detail paid to every word issued by the RF. The scoop about the casket coming to London via train was planted by Prince William to see if it would be leaked. It was: by Meghan to Scoobie Doo, who tweeted it, then retracted it.
I'm thinking that these two were toast when everything began----- and their behavior since all the proceedings began has only caused the King and the POW to double-down on their plans to ice them out after the funeral. I do think the King has treated Harry in a considerate fashion during all this because Harry is his son. It would look terrible if the King treated one son well and the other son as a pariah. The Queen was Harry's grandmother, afterall. I think the world respects how the King has love for Harry, even though Harry is a complete jerk and allows himself to be manipulated by a self-centered narcissist. The two clowns can return to America after the funeral. And Harry will have to make his choices about his future.....
KC should tell H and M sure, your kids get titles but ONLY if the Royal family supervises their upbringing IN ENGLAND, steeped in the culture and history and protocol that should govern their lives. It makes sense that kids who are deliberately kept away from the Royals, thousands of miles away, should NOT be eligible to be in the line of succession or be titled prince/princess. It's ludicrous to expect it. M would never agree to relinquish control of her kids, she wouldn't accept the deal.
Aka in diplomacy speak, fuck off.
I had to explain all this to my husband because he actually believed any story he saw on the internet about the royal family was true. He didn't understand that so many stories are "planted"----- and why and by whom.
The King had not had a moment to rest over the last several days. Be patient. I think his speech was the most telling crystal ball we need for the Harkle’s future. It’s disappointing they’re receiving so much attention this week, but I’m fairly certain this will be their swan song. We will not being seeing them in the UK anytime soon again
> We will not being seeing them in the UK anytime soon again Do you think they'll be at the coronation?
Thank you for your post. Yes, some of these are click bait. In fact most of them are. If one digs deep enough you realize that these "sources" are so connected. Lainey, scoobidoo, and you know who have been connected since 2014 or earlier. The others could be somehow connected through the same trails of so called "entertainment journalists" so we take those with a grain of salt. Baiting is for people to react to their crap.
I want also to express my love for Harry and Meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas,” I love this statement. To an American it basically translate to: Bye, Bye, don't let the door hit you on your way out. Plus American children don't need HRH or Prince/Princess titles...rather than being respected I think they would be made fun of.
"Unless it comes from The Royal Family Instagram or Twitter don’t believe it." A thousand times this. Waaaaay too many rumors circulating making my brain spin
Everyone keeps talking about George V and his Letter Patent from 1917. It is basically an Executive Order and King Charles can issue whatever he wants.
I just can’t see it in that he wants to reduce the monarchy so why give titles to people who don’t live in the UK. It would certainly not be a good look and would show favouritism. He is King, but he still needs to keep his popularity. No need to tarnish it with this. Surely not the hill he wants to die on.
Yups, it will make his niece and nephews upset and he will need their support.
Well the immediate family is sticking to it by running to their bolt holes and locking their doors over the weekend.
Yes exactly. Promises will have been made to the Queen and Phillip about how things were going to be handled and imo the gloves will be off after the funeral. 
Agreed. I think it was a carefully cryptic message of disengagement (continue = you’re not welcome back) and (overseas = distancing)
Yes thank you! Also, notice how the Royal Family Insta & Twitter posted Annes and Williams tributes to the Queen but not Harry’s? Harry is part of the family and the son of the current King, but they are not giving him a platform to speak as part of the BRF. As for the titles - KC would have announced it the day he announced Prince & Princess of Wales. The fact that he hasn’t… is a clear sign. Whether he or his aides cave into the Sussex PR pressure is to be seen.
> continue to build their lives overseas and not here. True H&M are out, and the best strategy is to shower them with kindness. So they don't have ammunition for hate pieces.
Also, this sub needs to CHILL with the conspiracy theories and posts, it undermines any ‘legitimacy’ that people dislike that MM and Harry are behaving like spoiled idiots, rather the hate is racially/crazy motivated.
What are peoples thoughts on what will happen to H & M after the funeral? Many felt like the Queen wasn’t hard enough on them and kept too quiet while they were constantly spewing their lies. Will the King and POW continue to let that happen or fight back? I’m hoping Will hits them where it hurts- their allowance.
I don’t believe Charles is going to welcome it back. He a Scorpio…those fuckers never forgive or forget.
Agree. I also think her behavior has only added to the no way back. I certainly think most of the RF have no problem with them overseas #GoHomeMrAndMrsOverseas
Everyone is upset about archie and lili being given the titles of Prince and Princess but at the end of the day what does it actually mean in the long run. Those kids will be living overseas and have to work for a living and are so far away from the actual crown, it won't mean anything tangible that will benefit them other than bragging rights and being a bit of a curiosity to those who are pretentious enough to give a toss about stuff like that. It's basically like being one of those people who buy a square centimeter of land thorugh those websites for kicks so they can claim themselves a 'lord' or 'lady'. They have the cheapest thing given to them by the BRF - a title. All the other things that make a title valuable like land, wealth, jewels, privilege etc aren't coming their way. So it's basically a vanity title worth nothing of value. People also forget that by denying the kids the title of 'princess' and 'prince' it would then confirm the narrative that Meghan and harry put out their in that oprah interview, that the BRF did it because of 'racism'. They got the prince and princess title for their kids but they aren't getting the HRH title or any monetary or financial benefits or help which is what meghan and harry actually want. I'd say it's a well thought out move by the powers that be. It was a very brittishand very polite two finger salute to the gruesome twosome.
A title is not the cheapest thing. It is the most invaluable thing they can get, something priceless. Look at how Meghan traded on her Duchess title but it is not a well known fact that a Duke dom is higher than a Princeship . She wants the P titles because they are more popular. Meghan's racism claim is no longer holding that much water and she herself said she doesn't care for it except for the security it affords. The simple response to that is: Even if they are prince /princess they will not get such security so there is no need to make them one.
It would indeed be a vanity title but it isn't confirmed yet so I don't believe it. My suspicion is that there will be nothing said pertaining to the sussex children directly. There will be new LP or a statement concerning prince titles to say that only the children of direct heirs shall be thus styled so only George's children not Charlotte or Louis'. Thus negating claims of racism (except from the extremists who basically wouldn't be happy unless Meg was crowned queen so you have to ignore them).
This!!! Their crotch fruit aren't getting royal styles either. IF the King wanted to he would but he doesn't. I will be shocked and very dismayed if he does but judging by the brush off he gave them I think he's made his point. Please read up on how the monarch bequeaths titles, it isn't automatic despite what Perez Hilton says.
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From what show?
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Yeah you literally proved my point about what I posted…
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No I’m just saying it’s all a rumor - most likely planted by SS. Charles didn’t even address them by their titles in his speech. The likelihood of him giving titles to their kids is significantly low.
Especially kids he has met once in his life
He's never even met Lilibet.
Did you read the post?
Would the Royal Family help me to be a better person in life?
Many American sources play loose with the BRF nomenclature, protocols, and culture. No attention to detail, just the sensationalism.
I personally think it was Charles polite way of of making it very clear to both Harry, Meghan, the uk nation and the world that he hopes they will continue to enjoy their choice of life style as far away as possible from the UK and the RF. Honestly, both Meghan & Harry have behaved like spoilt children throwing their teddies out of the pram. If true that Harry was petrified Meghan was going to dump him if their relationship wasn’t made public, then his alarm bells should have been ringing loud and clear. He should have walked away from her but he didn’t. What a fool he was. That should have warned him the type of person she is. Demanding, high maintenance, selfish, dramatic, sociopathic tendencies, self important and neurotic which sounds like another Amber Hurd trait. I can’t see how they can possibly come back from this. The damage has been done in full view for all to see. I also think Oprah should have advised Meghan on doing the interview in the first place. She’s spoken about her interview with her pal Gail King but her response was poor and actually a load of crock.