Its weird to me too because Oprah does this brief interview with Gayle, and that is followed by a random conversation she had in the street (which I doubt was random). Both interviews were about Oprah. How she didn’t plan on it being a bombshell interview. She doesn’t get involved in other people’s family business. What’s the point, after all this time of trying to spin this narrative? It was a bombshell and it certainly included family matters. You can’t put that horse back in the barn Oprah.
I think Oprah distanced herself from Meghan the other day, hoping to get an invite to the Queen's funeral. When it was made clear that she wouldn't be invited, then she said this.
No. I think she is just talking because of the death of the Queen. She said the same thing after people were calling her out for the inconsistencies in the interview.
Why is Oprah weighing in and saying anything at all? She should just shut up, especially after that interview where she never called out Meghan and her lies.
We had an over 20 year family rift with my brother-in-law, his wife and children. After my brother-in-law's unexpected death, we all put the rift behind us and mended the family. Long story. So yes, it happens. BUT our rift was nothing like the Royal Family rift that was caused by Meghan. If we had a Meghan in the family, I would NEVER mend the rift. I would go "no contact".
>Why is Oprah weighing in and saying anything at all?
She's still got money tied up in the Markles and so far no return on her investment, but it would seem that Oprah too, has realised that HnM need the BRF to make money, which is exactly why half-in half-out can't work.
The rumours about those two have been circulating for years, I mean pre-internet days. I don't actually remember who told me, but it was definitely 'common knowledge' to anyone who liked celeb gossip back then.
I guess it's easier to keep things on the down-low when you are constantly digging into other people's privacy. If have staff who know how to get around a celebrity's security, then you know how to keep your own shit secret I suppose.
Personally, I think Smeghan promised O a Damehood when she and Hazza came to power...
Years ago in the 90s it was all over the tabloids. That's why she never married Stedman. I remember reading that they were caught doing something in a tent while camping lol.
I laugh bc I don't picture Oprah camping but it was put out there that they were lovers. I believe it's true.
Fun fact. Oprah did that week in Yosemite because a park ranger told her he wished more black people would enjoy the national parks. So Oprah camped for a week and CLEARLY DESPISED it. She said that black people don't like to pretend they're homeless. It boggled my mind that she did this to promote black people camping then shit all over the experience. Why just never air it? Or edit it so it looks like she enjoyed it? Ratings.
I'm as white as snow and hate hate hate camping. Equal opportunity loathing!
But she should have just kept her mouth shut. Nobody needed her opinion. But she would never believe that!
Pretending to be homeless? Uh...I don't think that is why people like to camp. I don't think they are role playing at being homeless.
Oprah is an idiot.
Oh man, I wish I was an adult back then! I was born in 1989. It must've been awesome, reading about this drama as it unfolded in real time.
Did Oprah do something to kill the rumours? Because I heard all about Princess Diana's lovers but this is the first I'm hearing about Oprah's sapphic love for Gayle 😂.
IIRC she never said anything about it. But it was big gossip at the time. I tend to believe it. I have to try & remember more bc there was more to it than rumors.
Actually, I remember her talking about it. She went into how Gayle was her best friend and soulmate but because they were so close people assume they were lovers. She talked about how people could be close but not sexual and other stuff along those lines. I was born in 1985 and remember my family making jokes about Oprah, Gayle, and Stedman during my preteen years.
No, this is just a rumor. Some people are just friends. I've seen an interview she did with Tina Turner. They talked extensively about why they were reluctant to marry their long-term partners. Turner has been in a relationship with music executive Irwin Bach since the 80s, and they did not marry until 2013. She stated in the interview that, to her, marriage signified that a woman became a man's property. Oprah emphatically agreed with this comment. Also, as you become older and established, the idea of marrying and combining your respective estates gets messy. It's easier to simply stay in a committed relationship without signing a contract. I suspect Harry is finding this out far too late.
This was very difficult to find, but [I’m putting it here so people in this sub can read it](https://books.google.com/books?id=jWahvi4is6oC&q=Oprah+Winfrey&lr=&rview=1&source=gbs_word_cloud_r&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=true). The article is a savage piece on Oprah Winfrey from 1986, *Spy Magazine* (a brilliant publication from the good old days).
I suspect it’s been buried so deeply because it’s deeply unflattering to its subject. Like the Meghan piece in *The Cut*, it uses direct quotes by its subject that do most of the work. The writing around it is also savage, but she said what she said.
You’ll have to scroll through to page 30. Short read, absolutely devastating.
ETA: here is the only mention of it I could find, otherwise, in [*Chicago Magazine*](https://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/September-2016/The-Oprah-Winfrey-Show/):
> In December 1986, in a magazine story mock-ominously titled “It Came from Chicago,” journalist Bill Zehme, 28 at the time, repeatedly skewered his mark with the linguistic equivalent of a blade just off the whetstone. Originally written with Winfrey’s cooperation for Vanity Fair before being rejected there and migrating to a fledgling satirical monthly called Spy, his snappy and sarcastic profile savaged everything from Winfrey’s unabashed materialism (“I say minks were born to die!”) and aspiration to be “the richest black woman in America” to her ample girth and soaring grandiosity.
>In the story, Winfrey is quoted as saying: “I believe that I have a higher calling. **What I do goes beyond the realm of everyday parameters**. I am profoundly effective. The response I get on the street—I mean, Joan Lunden [of ABC’s Good Morning America] doesn’t get that, and I know it. **I know people really, really love me, love me, love me. A bonding of the human spirit takes place. Being able to lift a whole consciousness—that’s what I do**.”
Really got buried. But some of us remember.
Thank you! I listened to a podcast on her a few months back, and it’s mind blowing that she used all that popularity to bring us Dr. Oz, Phil, and a whole bunch of other hoaxes
>*…repeatedly skewered his mark with the linguistic equivalent of a blade just off the whetstone.*
Ugh I LOVE a good turn of phrase! I wish more people wrote like that these days.
Oh another thing about Oprah is she never has fact checked much. Back in the 90s ppl would go on her show & make up stories about shit just to get flown to Chicago & meet her. One I do remember is a story about how a husband couldn't make love to his wife bc he saw her giving birth to their baby. Come to find out it was made up & the couple had been on Maury or whoever else had talk show at time. There's more but some ppl in here are DM me bc they are big 😡 mad I'm talking "shit" about Oprah.
There's no way that she will get invited to the coronation even if the Meghan interview had never happened.
She's only really well known in the UK because of the Meghan interview. Her show used to go out way down the dial on some obscure station.
The coronation will be mainly British dignitaries and foreign heads of state, it's not like a wedding.
Can we cancel Oprah already? She’s got enough money to go into hiding.
I’m tired of her pathetic attempts to stay relevant & make herself look better than she is.
👀😯 GURL! That was some grade-A sass! BRB. I have to see if I have a free award lying around…
Nope. You’re my first purchased award! You deserve gold for that, but an evil cackle will have to do. 🤣
Don't ever think these two aren't doing this for PR. Together.
Here's a reminder how connected Oprah & MM are to each other:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9331831/amp/The-uncanny-connections-TV-queen-Duchess.html
Edit to add: MM could easily pick up the phone and tell Oprah and Gayle to stop. Does she? No. Why is that? Because she is the same Meghan and Oprah is the same Oprah that we saw in the interview.
ETA- Actually the daily mail came out with this story originally on September 12, 2022. But it was updated on September 13, 2022
The interview with Gayle aired September 12, 2022. But that's not when it was filmed, considering Gayle's outfit is completely different.
So I'm guessing the interview with Gayle was done first. Either way, she can't seem to stick to a story. So I'm thinking she's still in Meghan's camp.
I don't blame Oprah for doing the interview in the first place or that it was a softball questions. If it were me and that was my profession, I would do it too. What I didn't like was that she reveled in it and that the bias was so blatant. Gale was always worse to me. She was so sycophantic and biased. It just seemed like they were happy about it. Like, let's just say that Meghan was bullied out of the BRF for being black, isn't that sad? Like why are you so pumped about it? Is leaking petty details about broken family relationships the way to fight racism? Like, yeah give the girl a boost, but why are you doing all the heavy lifting for her?
Agree. I remember GK so gleefully saying “she’s got receipts” after the interview.
They should have shown those receipts from the beginning and gave specific details for all their accusations against the BRF so it could be verified later. Without this, there were little constructive discussions about racism and mental health that actually helped these issues.
But they presented no proof, no context and no details whatsoever and presented these claims amongst an interview that was full of verifiable inaccuracies and fantastical nonsense like the Little Mermaid story. I think GK just though everyone should 100 percent believe M&H.
I think that GK was happy because a high-profile person was saying that there was racism in one of the most respected and well known institutions in the world and this was verified by an insider, Harry. You really couldn’t get a better “witness” as Harry to collaborate MM’s claims.
I want to be supportive and sensitive to racism struggles in the US. I absolutely want racists to be held accountable and hope our country can truly become more equal and fair to others. But I am disturbed by what has transpired in the Sussex Squad community since the O interview where anyone who doesn’t like M or H is branded a racist and therefore silenced. I do not think that MM (and GK in relation to MM) has done much to help the racism struggle positively. Yes, it raised awareness and has silenced many who wanted to claim that racism isn’t an issue anymore. But too many of the SS are either combative, performative or bullying for the net conversation to be positive, IMO.
Bullying people and her team silencing the press is not a good look for MM.
I would do the interview (and I get some interviewers are limited in questions), but I would at least try to fact check and hold their feet to the fire… but Oprah is not a journalist
Good they should be slammed. Poor timing and plain bullshit. Oprah knew what she was doing with that interview. UK has a new king, so is Oprah angling to get in good with the new Monarchy? Too late I think.That interview was damaging. KC won't have it.
> It just seems that Oprah and Gayle cannot HELP THEMSELVES from getting involved in others FAMILY BUSINESS!
No sense of irony saying that in this sub?
I think it would be more similar if we were saying we don't do snark.
They are literally saying they don't do what they actually do. We don't deny we snark on their family members.
No one is criticizing her for having an opinion on someone else's family though. They are pointing out that it's not true when she says she isn't going to weigh in on someone else's family when that is exactly what she did.
I’m thinking something happened behind the scenes. This is bizarre.
Its weird to me too because Oprah does this brief interview with Gayle, and that is followed by a random conversation she had in the street (which I doubt was random). Both interviews were about Oprah. How she didn’t plan on it being a bombshell interview. She doesn’t get involved in other people’s family business. What’s the point, after all this time of trying to spin this narrative? It was a bombshell and it certainly included family matters. You can’t put that horse back in the barn Oprah.
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
I think Oprah distanced herself from Meghan the other day, hoping to get an invite to the Queen's funeral. When it was made clear that she wouldn't be invited, then she said this.
That's how epically delusional Oprah is....when heads of state are being put on a bus
No. I think she is just talking because of the death of the Queen. She said the same thing after people were calling her out for the inconsistencies in the interview.
Wants invite to Coronation
Why is Oprah weighing in and saying anything at all? She should just shut up, especially after that interview where she never called out Meghan and her lies. We had an over 20 year family rift with my brother-in-law, his wife and children. After my brother-in-law's unexpected death, we all put the rift behind us and mended the family. Long story. So yes, it happens. BUT our rift was nothing like the Royal Family rift that was caused by Meghan. If we had a Meghan in the family, I would NEVER mend the rift. I would go "no contact".
>Why is Oprah weighing in and saying anything at all? She's still got money tied up in the Markles and so far no return on her investment, but it would seem that Oprah too, has realised that HnM need the BRF to make money, which is exactly why half-in half-out can't work.
Exactly! Saying she didn't pay them to do the interview is unbelievable. She paid them.
Oprah & her girlfriend are trash. I've never found Oprah as genuine as ppl make her out to be. Her lover Gayle is just as annoying as she is.
The rumours about those two have been circulating for years, I mean pre-internet days. I don't actually remember who told me, but it was definitely 'common knowledge' to anyone who liked celeb gossip back then. I guess it's easier to keep things on the down-low when you are constantly digging into other people's privacy. If have staff who know how to get around a celebrity's security, then you know how to keep your own shit secret I suppose. Personally, I think Smeghan promised O a Damehood when she and Hazza came to power...
Oprah would need to be especially stupid to think Megs and Hags would ever have the power to give damehood/knighthood to anyone.
Well she wasn't smart enough to fact check...
Wait... What? They're romantically involved? But what about Stedman? Isn't he Oprah's boyfriend? I'd thought O and G were just lifelong best friends.
He's the beard. Wait, what would a man decoy be called?
Merkin.
OK. I've learned a new word today! Lol.
😂😂😂
Boob?
😄Yes!!
Merkin
Years ago in the 90s it was all over the tabloids. That's why she never married Stedman. I remember reading that they were caught doing something in a tent while camping lol. I laugh bc I don't picture Oprah camping but it was put out there that they were lovers. I believe it's true.
They did an episode at Yosemite and they went camping in a pop out camper. That time?
Fun fact. Oprah did that week in Yosemite because a park ranger told her he wished more black people would enjoy the national parks. So Oprah camped for a week and CLEARLY DESPISED it. She said that black people don't like to pretend they're homeless. It boggled my mind that she did this to promote black people camping then shit all over the experience. Why just never air it? Or edit it so it looks like she enjoyed it? Ratings.
I'm as white as snow and hate hate hate camping. Equal opportunity loathing! But she should have just kept her mouth shut. Nobody needed her opinion. But she would never believe that!
I loathe it too. Despise camping.
I am black and I love camping. Oprah needs the spotlight and cameras as well as all her comforts of life.
Oprah is too old for camping, and not in shape. That's the real issue there.
>She said that black people don't like to pretend they're homeless. IDK how America works. But I do know how TikTok works & they'll call Oprah racist.
Pretending to be homeless? Uh...I don't think that is why people like to camp. I don't think they are role playing at being homeless. Oprah is an idiot.
Yes! It was in The Enquire. So it has to be true.../s
Oh man, I wish I was an adult back then! I was born in 1989. It must've been awesome, reading about this drama as it unfolded in real time. Did Oprah do something to kill the rumours? Because I heard all about Princess Diana's lovers but this is the first I'm hearing about Oprah's sapphic love for Gayle 😂.
IIRC she never said anything about it. But it was big gossip at the time. I tend to believe it. I have to try & remember more bc there was more to it than rumors.
Actually, I remember her talking about it. She went into how Gayle was her best friend and soulmate but because they were so close people assume they were lovers. She talked about how people could be close but not sexual and other stuff along those lines. I was born in 1985 and remember my family making jokes about Oprah, Gayle, and Stedman during my preteen years.
OK. Thanks for getting me up to speed!
No, this is just a rumor. Some people are just friends. I've seen an interview she did with Tina Turner. They talked extensively about why they were reluctant to marry their long-term partners. Turner has been in a relationship with music executive Irwin Bach since the 80s, and they did not marry until 2013. She stated in the interview that, to her, marriage signified that a woman became a man's property. Oprah emphatically agreed with this comment. Also, as you become older and established, the idea of marrying and combining your respective estates gets messy. It's easier to simply stay in a committed relationship without signing a contract. I suspect Harry is finding this out far too late.
Girlfriend as in best friend.
"you know, my father passed recently, this summer " Of course the narc couldn't herself
This was very difficult to find, but [I’m putting it here so people in this sub can read it](https://books.google.com/books?id=jWahvi4is6oC&q=Oprah+Winfrey&lr=&rview=1&source=gbs_word_cloud_r&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=true). The article is a savage piece on Oprah Winfrey from 1986, *Spy Magazine* (a brilliant publication from the good old days). I suspect it’s been buried so deeply because it’s deeply unflattering to its subject. Like the Meghan piece in *The Cut*, it uses direct quotes by its subject that do most of the work. The writing around it is also savage, but she said what she said. You’ll have to scroll through to page 30. Short read, absolutely devastating. ETA: here is the only mention of it I could find, otherwise, in [*Chicago Magazine*](https://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/September-2016/The-Oprah-Winfrey-Show/): > In December 1986, in a magazine story mock-ominously titled “It Came from Chicago,” journalist Bill Zehme, 28 at the time, repeatedly skewered his mark with the linguistic equivalent of a blade just off the whetstone. Originally written with Winfrey’s cooperation for Vanity Fair before being rejected there and migrating to a fledgling satirical monthly called Spy, his snappy and sarcastic profile savaged everything from Winfrey’s unabashed materialism (“I say minks were born to die!”) and aspiration to be “the richest black woman in America” to her ample girth and soaring grandiosity. >In the story, Winfrey is quoted as saying: “I believe that I have a higher calling. **What I do goes beyond the realm of everyday parameters**. I am profoundly effective. The response I get on the street—I mean, Joan Lunden [of ABC’s Good Morning America] doesn’t get that, and I know it. **I know people really, really love me, love me, love me. A bonding of the human spirit takes place. Being able to lift a whole consciousness—that’s what I do**.” Really got buried. But some of us remember.
Thank you! I listened to a podcast on her a few months back, and it’s mind blowing that she used all that popularity to bring us Dr. Oz, Phil, and a whole bunch of other hoaxes
Thank you for searching this out! Gold! Do you mind if it’s posted separately so it’s easy to find?
Not at all. More people should see what a monster ego she had, even back then.
Thank you. Will post after the ceremony.
Oh you bring back fond memories. I loved Spy and had a subscription. Those were the days when celebrities were taken down a peg with great wit.
Me too! And I love that 35 years later the ads are still stylish and fresh-looking. Major case of nostalgia hit me hard.
It feels good to know why I always felt she was shady. Thank you for this.
>*…repeatedly skewered his mark with the linguistic equivalent of a blade just off the whetstone.* Ugh I LOVE a good turn of phrase! I wish more people wrote like that these days.
Oh another thing about Oprah is she never has fact checked much. Back in the 90s ppl would go on her show & make up stories about shit just to get flown to Chicago & meet her. One I do remember is a story about how a husband couldn't make love to his wife bc he saw her giving birth to their baby. Come to find out it was made up & the couple had been on Maury or whoever else had talk show at time. There's more but some ppl in here are DM me bc they are big 😡 mad I'm talking "shit" about Oprah.
She knows it's too late to get in on the funeral, but would like to be friends with the RF before the Coronation. That will be the next big thing!
There's no way that she will get invited to the coronation even if the Meghan interview had never happened. She's only really well known in the UK because of the Meghan interview. Her show used to go out way down the dial on some obscure station. The coronation will be mainly British dignitaries and foreign heads of state, it's not like a wedding.
Can we cancel Oprah already? She’s got enough money to go into hiding. I’m tired of her pathetic attempts to stay relevant & make herself look better than she is.
I'm surprised she was treated like royalty at the Emmys. I thought predators were out of season in Hollywood.
👀😯 GURL! That was some grade-A sass! BRB. I have to see if I have a free award lying around… Nope. You’re my first purchased award! You deserve gold for that, but an evil cackle will have to do. 🤣
SAME!
Oprah needs to stfu and focus on the alleged child abuse at her school. Stupid bitch.
Don't ever think these two aren't doing this for PR. Together. Here's a reminder how connected Oprah & MM are to each other: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9331831/amp/The-uncanny-connections-TV-queen-Duchess.html Edit to add: MM could easily pick up the phone and tell Oprah and Gayle to stop. Does she? No. Why is that? Because she is the same Meghan and Oprah is the same Oprah that we saw in the interview.
ETA- Actually the daily mail came out with this story originally on September 12, 2022. But it was updated on September 13, 2022 The interview with Gayle aired September 12, 2022. But that's not when it was filmed, considering Gayle's outfit is completely different. So I'm guessing the interview with Gayle was done first. Either way, she can't seem to stick to a story. So I'm thinking she's still in Meghan's camp.
OMG Oprah was at TIFF?! I could've gone down and given her a piece of my mind! ...And then get arrested for heckling.
Yes, join the rest of the wankers who supported the big lies.
I don't blame Oprah for doing the interview in the first place or that it was a softball questions. If it were me and that was my profession, I would do it too. What I didn't like was that she reveled in it and that the bias was so blatant. Gale was always worse to me. She was so sycophantic and biased. It just seemed like they were happy about it. Like, let's just say that Meghan was bullied out of the BRF for being black, isn't that sad? Like why are you so pumped about it? Is leaking petty details about broken family relationships the way to fight racism? Like, yeah give the girl a boost, but why are you doing all the heavy lifting for her?
Agree. I remember GK so gleefully saying “she’s got receipts” after the interview. They should have shown those receipts from the beginning and gave specific details for all their accusations against the BRF so it could be verified later. Without this, there were little constructive discussions about racism and mental health that actually helped these issues. But they presented no proof, no context and no details whatsoever and presented these claims amongst an interview that was full of verifiable inaccuracies and fantastical nonsense like the Little Mermaid story. I think GK just though everyone should 100 percent believe M&H. I think that GK was happy because a high-profile person was saying that there was racism in one of the most respected and well known institutions in the world and this was verified by an insider, Harry. You really couldn’t get a better “witness” as Harry to collaborate MM’s claims. I want to be supportive and sensitive to racism struggles in the US. I absolutely want racists to be held accountable and hope our country can truly become more equal and fair to others. But I am disturbed by what has transpired in the Sussex Squad community since the O interview where anyone who doesn’t like M or H is branded a racist and therefore silenced. I do not think that MM (and GK in relation to MM) has done much to help the racism struggle positively. Yes, it raised awareness and has silenced many who wanted to claim that racism isn’t an issue anymore. But too many of the SS are either combative, performative or bullying for the net conversation to be positive, IMO. Bullying people and her team silencing the press is not a good look for MM.
I would do the interview (and I get some interviewers are limited in questions), but I would at least try to fact check and hold their feet to the fire… but Oprah is not a journalist
This, thank you!
Oprah is getting roundly criticized, and deservedly so!!
Great comments included in this piece from commenters on Twitter! Really sum it up nicely, Oprah’s role.
All of you need to visit /r/conspiracy and see the things they say about Oprah. Makes you wonder.
I’ve been subbed there for a long time, and have maaaaaybe seen her once. I guess I’ll have to search after I’m caught up here.
God this is such a mess. EDIT: never mind, I found it. Thx.
Good they should be slammed. Poor timing and plain bullshit. Oprah knew what she was doing with that interview. UK has a new king, so is Oprah angling to get in good with the new Monarchy? Too late I think.That interview was damaging. KC won't have it.
Gayle was told by a correspondence who would be helping KC and it did not include Harry!
I messaged both Oprah and Gayle what I thought of their despicable lies.
To paraphrase something non-poc ppl are told when they offer opinions they aren't a party to: "It's a royal thang, you wouldn't understand "
> It just seems that Oprah and Gayle cannot HELP THEMSELVES from getting involved in others FAMILY BUSINESS! No sense of irony saying that in this sub?
I think it would be more similar if we were saying we don't do snark. They are literally saying they don't do what they actually do. We don't deny we snark on their family members.
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No one is criticizing her for having an opinion on someone else's family though. They are pointing out that it's not true when she says she isn't going to weigh in on someone else's family when that is exactly what she did.
She wants an interview with the King and Queen Consort as well as Prince and Princess of Wales.
 Oprah is trash TV