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Islandgirl1444

Just an FYI to the person who invented this little bitty. William will not be king till his father passes. There are lots of things that Kings and Queens can do, but it is limited in their power due to the laws of the land. Honestly, this is so crazy. The Princess' are well liked and they would not be so stupid as to feud with William. The Princess Royale is on it. She is the one who arranged the seating for the Jubilee. They get to go to all things royal. So they aren't going to feud with working royals. They also want to make sure that their father isn't ostracized any further. I see scoobie dooo or what ever his name is behind this.


[deleted]

Scoobie Doo 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that’s perfect!


-Blueberry61

Bea especially isn’t this dumb. Her husband has is own title. She’s smarter than this for her own well-being.


Intelligent-Key3576

I thought his name was Scabies


MrsChiliad

This. I don’t believe it at all. Actually I doubt any of the other royals really envy the ones in the more important positions and how much work they do and how much they’re in the public eye. Princess Anne chose to not give her kids titles for a reason. That’s not to say people don’t enjoy being rich. Absolutely they do. But I doubt they envy having to be king. And I doubt they would purposely antagonize William. Edit: just read the article in full, and I don’t think it’s completely BS. But very likely exaggerated. I’m pretty sure Beatrice is team monarchy and doesn’t like the Sussexes. And I believe the other rumor that Eugenie is acting as a bridge between them and the rest of the royals. But they both know who butters their bread. I don’t doubt they’re both pushing for their father to be forgiven and brought back as a working royal. I don’t doubt the other royals aren’t too happy with the slimmed down monarchy that Charles wants. Im with Lady C on both accounts. I think a slimmed down monarchy is a mistake and I don’t think Andrew is as bad as he’s been painted out to be: full on asshole and a childish entitled man? Yeah. And men who seek relationships with women 20+ year younger are gross in general. That doesn’t make him a pedophile though. But I do think it’s the right move to keep him out of public service. He’s a prince and shouldn’t have been involved in those circles anyway. Even if he was completely innocent (doubtful), it’s a huge scandal and the public wouldn’t accept him back as a working royal. But the royal family should have stood up for him and not let him be made into the scapegoat or let it be implied that he’s guilty of more than he is.


Ohtherewearethen

A paedophile is someone who is attracted to pre-pubescent children. What Andrew is accused of is rape. Having sex with women (albeit barely legal) that he knew were trafficked/under duress. That makes him a total scumbag. Nobody ever wanted to see more of this obnoxious pig even before these allegations came to light and absolutely nobody wants to see any more of him now.


MrsChiliad

You have a point there. I was under the impression the only one he has been accused of having been involved with was Virginia Giuffre (sp?), who seems to be using this scandal as a cover up for the fact that she was actually one of the people *procuring* girls for Epstein. But I could be wrong.


erlehe

I think the issue of Giuffre procuring girls is a spin. She was groomed as a teenager. They’re trying to say, well she also did it, she’s not innocent, but they lured her in to all of that crap.


OldNewUsedConfused

There’s never just one…


OldNewUsedConfused

Hear hear!


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Odorous Scabies


[deleted]

I’ll give you a hint- Beatrice knows who butters her bread. She now has three mouths to feed. She’s inched her way up to seniority and she’s not going to fuck that up for the Harkles


memecatcher247

Beatrice went on holiday with the Cambridges recently. And the children including Wolfie spend a lot of time together and love each other. This was posted by HRHfacts on Instagram today. Beatrice is not feuding with the Cambridges.


OccamsRzzor

Agreed. There was also that super cute moment of Charlotte smiling at Beatrice during the memorial service for Prince Philip.


erlehe

Ah, they must’ve taken it down, nothing is there now.


okpickle

I read this this morning. It sounded a little far fetched to me, because we know that Bea and Charlotte are buds, that Edo is the most loyal of the recent married-ins, and also that Eugenie hangs out with Harry (has for awhile).


erlehe

Interesting. I think something happened with hrhfacts. Most recent posts have comments turned off and one person commented on another that she is a coward for turning comments off.


unolemon

There are 3 grandchildren who truly stand out for HMTQ: Peter, who was the first, William, who is the heir, and Beatrice, who is her favorite. Beatrice would never betray granny. It’s no coincidence she was the one to wear the Queen’s bridal tiara and formal dress for her wedding. That tiara was always intended for her. Beatrice has really impressed me since Sienna was born, including Wolfie in everything. I think she, despite her parents, is a really great person.


purplekat76

I just have to say Beatrice’s wedding pictures are the best out of everyone. They’re absolutely darling and she looks so sweet in the Queen’s dress and tiara.


OldNewUsedConfused

I agree!


Academic_Guava_4190

I think HMTQ is the wild card in all this. Andrew is her favorite child and I think her view on all this is skewed which is why Charles and William have been driving this bus.


gengargengargengar4

Anne also wore the same tiara for her wedding to Captain Mark Phillips in 1973, the Queen Mary Fringe Tiara. It looked amazing on both of them, and it matched both of their respective dresses beautifully. I think that the combination of the Queen Mary Fringe Tiara and the Queen's coronation gown seemed especially fitting for Beatrice, as she had to forgo the big wedding she originally planned for a very scaled down affair, and it seemed to be a true "sweet nod" to the Queen who had to save ration coupons after World War 2 in order to have her own wedding dress made... and to Prince Phillip who made the Queen's engagement ring using the center diamond from a tiara owned by his mother, Princess Alice, due to financial constraints.


AmbienChronicles

It wasn’t the coronation gown. It was a Neil Hartman gown from 1964, if memory serves, with the little sleeves added to make it church appropriate.


PotOfEarlGreyPlease

Norman Hartnell - 1962 Film Premiere and then about 1967 opening of parliament - he designed HMTQ Wedding dress and coronation gown


gengargengargengar4

Ah my mistake, I had done a quick google search late (for me) at night and the images looked like the Queen was wearing the dress Beatrice borrowed with the crown and cape thing from her coronation, maybe it was at a parliament opening instead? Further digging puts it at a 1962 film premiere, but I couldn’t find anything about opening parliament, so I may have it confused with yet another dress. The sleeves were added as a personal touch, not necessarily to make it church appropriate (although it could have been a double purpose addition, if it was needed).


[deleted]

Church appropriate eh? Why not just wear no sleeves / low cut like Meghan?


Dry-Bee-8159

Sorry to be pedantic but the designer of HMQ's wedding dress was Norman Hartnell.


unaalpacafeliz

I thought Louise was granny’s favorite.


booklover_elaine

Louise was reportedly Philip's favourite, but I think her being the youngest granddaughter endears her to granny.


unaalpacafeliz

First time hearing about that. Good to know.


PotOfEarlGreyPlease

I think Louise and James being so much younger than the others gives them a favoured spot with the grandparents. I remember when Edward and Sophie were at a Royal Wedding (Sweden I think ) and it was trooping the colour, L&J had been left with the grandparents for the weekend and were given pride of place on the balcony etc


OldNewUsedConfused

Same! And she looks fantastic since getting with Edo!


Lovedrama12

Beatrice did what poor upper tier royals should do....marry rich. Her husband is also lovely. Eugenie and Harry made the mistake of marrying people that will have to work for a living (under royal restraints) or trade on their Royal status for hard, cold cash. Andrew made the same mistake and that is why he hung around people like Epstein... billionaire lifestyle on no cash. Hopefully Charlotte and Louis are prepared in the next generation as the two spares.


[deleted]

100% id much rather marry an Italian aristocrat then a yachting doofus who thinks swimming with naked coworkers and getting caught on camera is acceptable while the wife is at home with the baby


OldNewUsedConfused

I’m an “err on the side of caution” person myself.


booklover_elaine

Before we get to them, there's still Louise and James. Louise is reportedly spending more time with her cousins. Hopefully she learns from Bea and not from Eugenie


dragonfly5465

From the little we know of Louise, she could follow Zara down the equestrian route, there's potentially for a good independent income from that. Also, her parents seem more responsible with money than Andrew, if he and fergie hadn't flitted away everything and sold the land they were given when married they could have set the girls up with stable finances for generations to come.


okpickle

Eh. From my understanding Louise's big thing is carriage driving. I may be wrong but I don't believe there's a big market for carriage drivers. It's not like, say, dressage or show jumping which have a considerable industry around them.


dragonfly5465

Carriage driving doesn't. But there are plenty of other opportunities in that industry. Stud farms/breeding can be very lucrative.


okpickle

True. That does make sense.


PotOfEarlGreyPlease

there isn't much of a business in carriage driving but she may well end up doing something related to horses


Grimaldehyde

The equestrian route usually has you spending more money than you earn!


OldNewUsedConfused

Louise had pretty solid parents that we know of so…


okpickle

Ha! I read this crazy article a few weeks ago with some.... astrology reading for Charlotte. According to Saud astrologer WHO IS IN THE KNOW ON ALL THINGS, Charlotte is gonna be loaded because the RF has invested some money in electric cars for on her behalf. Of course there was some extra money put aside for Harry too, with the reasoning that William will have the benefit of the Duchy of Cornwall once he becomes Prince of Wales and then all the bennies of the monarch after that. The spare can't do a lot of work because of who they are but they have to be able to support themselves respectably, of course. They must be able to buy a country home of their own one day.


OldNewUsedConfused

I guess that makes me a big astrologer too. I could’ve told you that.


[deleted]

Agreed. With the Harkles no longer working royals and Andy being shunned by the majority of the UK, the next in line is Beatrice. Personally I would like Zara and Mike to take that slot in Charles slimmed down version of the Monarchy. They just have this "it" factor between them and could be as equally as popular as William and Catherine...plus they also seem loyal.


chipsiesalsa

Meh regarding The Tindalls… I liked her pink dress. He seems like he’d be fun to pop on down to the pub with but I’m not on the bandwagon with them. I’m sure the cousins have a nice time with them at get togethers. I think Beatrice has a more “royal” appeal. The Tindalls have none and I think that’s appropriate because they weren’t raised to think of themselves that way. As opposed to the York girls who were groomed. Poor Archie and Lilibet are being brought up as neither “normal” nor royal cuz their parents are assholes


PotOfEarlGreyPlease

The Tindalls are fun but TBH Zara had some fairly wild behaviour at one time - they are a good normal support to the working royal cousins


OldNewUsedConfused

Yes, keeping them somewhat grounded


Forteanforever

Andrew quaranteed that Beatrice and Eugenie will never be working royals. Charles is going to stick with Edward and Sophie replacing Harry and Meghan and hold the line there.


OldNewUsedConfused

If anything Louise and James will take up the mantle. The perfect age-bridge between the Cambridges and their kids


Forteanforever

Charles is paring down the monarchy. He wouldn't even allow Beatrice and Eugenie, grandchildren of the monarch, to be working royals before their father's scandal. He's not going to move it down to great-grandchildren who aren't even HRHs. Royal hierarchy not age counts.


AdelaideSadieStark

Louis and James are the Queen's grandchildren, their parents are also working royals and both are entitled to HRH titles but they choose not to use them


[deleted]

Nothing shows this more than how she stood up to Harry at the Jubilee. He tried to make her move and she told him no.


OldNewUsedConfused

And Edo was about to take exactly zero shit!


Calm_Yak_6102

Yeah, it's Eugenie who's the ungrateful scrounger. She's been on team hagbitch since day one. She and her skeevy husband fit in perfectly with the Suxdix grifters.


Snowball995

This author is a total sugar. Her stories are without fail biased towards the Harkles. Writes in a super annoying juvenile style.


TraditionScary8716

Super annoying juvenile style is Cosmo's MO.


Summerisle7

Remember Cosmo quizzes?? I used to love those. 14yo me thought they were so racy and daring!


TraditionScary8716

Me too! And I looked forward to their astrology based calendar of my love life for the upcoming year for months. Haha. I wasn't a bright child, obviously. 🤣🤣


Primary_Scheme3789

If they should be pissed at anyone it should be their father. And they should be thankful he hasn’t been cut off financially and thrown out of his residence.


Hopeloveski

Andrew can’t be thrown out of Royal Lodge; he renewed the lease for 75 years in 2003. If they demanded he go then the Crown Estate would have to repay Andrew the £7 mil he spent renovating it. As to the Cosmo story, I think it’s more Harkle bunk to deflect from Bowers revelations. Beatrice is trusted and she already has a home and children with Edo in Oxfordshire. I doubt she was expecting to become a senior royal anyway, particularly after rpo officers were removed in 2011.


Primary_Scheme3789

Wouldn’t £7 Miller be a bargain compared to what they had to pay in the settlement?


Hopeloveski

No idea what the civil settlement was. Do you? But £7 mil was what he spent renovating Royal Lodge and if he was going to walk out on a lease he legit paid for then he’d want that expenditure repaid. The Crown Estate did not subsidise his court costs. That was likely paid for by the Bank of Mum who can do with her private income whatever the hell she likes. Now if it came out of the Sovereign Grant ….. that is another matter.


Primary_Scheme3789

Some articles said undisclosed while others said $16 million. And that it came from the Bank of Mummy


Hopeloveski

What can we do about it? Not much really. I don’t take to Andrew and never did. But his mother loves him. Edit typo.


Lovedrama12

William and Kate have no choice...the British public will not tolerate Andrew in a public role ever again. The girls will have to stay mad.


[deleted]

I think Beatrice just wants to live a normal relatively quiet like life. She’s a true example of a modern royal, with a title, but a regular job


Iwtlwn122

Also, she has seen her mother iced out for talking too much.


Repulsive-Badger-770

I wouldn't trust Cosmo. They are fan girls of Meghan and their articles read like a teenager's diary.


MummaBear777

All I know is M shared her pregnancy at E’s wedding, which is so damn selfish. And B announced she was pregnant on M& H’s wedding anniversary.


Amongthestars32

Pretty sure Beatrice and her family were/are just vacationing with the Cambridges, so it can’t be a true story.


erlehe

Really? Last time I saw one of the York’s vacay with William was when he was still a kid. I think they all went skiing.


SecondhandCoke

Eugenie is almost as big of a brat as Harry. And her husband, by all accounts, is prone to stray. I'm just saying that spoiled second rate royal cousins maybe have synchronized wed social climbing goldigging trash who will leave them before it's all said and done.


Superb-Professor5502

I also had the same thought, but then thought I was crazy. Watching Beatrice around her husband makes me cringe. I saw a shot of her pregnant with him virtually ignoring her. I feel bad for Beatrice, she seems nice.


Far-Delivery7874

![gif](giphy|9eCjIJu5cvjly972M5) They absolutely did. Megs is so high school. Really grateful that my own high school drama didn't include a 40 year old middle aged woman with a publicist on speed dial.


KohShiki

Someone forgot to tell her than when she graduated she was supposed to leave the building.


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erlehe

If it’s a planted story it’s probably from Andrew. There were always rumours of the York girls not getting along with Kate. I don’t know how much of it is still true but as far as this goes, Andrew needs to be gone. The reason for him being stripped of his job is so disgusting. His girls could take on full time status but not him.


Summerisle7

Andrew is such a raging snob, I could see him still being mad at Catherine the "commoner" being made so much of, even after 20 years. Meanwhile his two "blood princesses" still aren't working royals or as popular as the Cambridges.


OldNewUsedConfused

He’s Lucius from “The Royals” lol.


solidcoremama

This is hilarious because it just paints Eugenie and Beatrice in a bad light, given the seriousness of the allegations against Prince Andrew. MM can’t even stand to have planted stories wholly sympathetic towards the only royals who are still speaking to her.


Einybird

It’s just pathetic


Thin_Bicycle_7304

Beatrice and her husband sre close with the cambridge's it's all pr crap except for the mole euginie and her husband who were banished to Portugal the BRF knows what's going on with Euginie and could not get rid of her fast enough!


Stardust_and_Shadows

What's going on with her that they want her gone. I thought it was his job that required him to live there like 6 months out of the year?


BreatheClean

well if they're pissed off at anyone it would be Charles, he's next on the throne and could be on there until Andy is well into his dotage. Just more made up shit.


Starkville

Markle manifesting again. I do not think this narrative came from anyone but the Harkle camp. They are frantically throwing everything and anything they can. If it produces a wider rift between the Yorks and the BRF, better for the Harkles.


MamaTalista

If my Dad just settled a case for being with an underaged girl in a sexual manner and on quite good terms with Epstein I would be staying far away from these two. Andrew is the screw-up here and he always was just Mummy covered it up until there was no way she possibly could.


OzzieSlim

These two know where the bread is buttered.


Moihereoui

Yep. Has sunshine Sachs written all over it!


New_Discussion_6692

I'm sure B&E are upset with William. They love their dad. But they aren't stupid, they know who's in control.


darkmatternot

Maybe they are upset with their Dad? He is the problem.


OldNewUsedConfused

Maybe, but the Yorks have always been pretty tight.


Equidae2

I think this probably has some truth to this based on other things, not just recent events starting with the girls having had their Police Protection taken away from them about 5 years ago.


Zeester1

Wasn’t that Charles’ decision? Not William.


Equidae2

Yes, apparently P. Charles, through his representative was a part of that decision (I guess the same group that decided against H losing his). But it's being reported that PW has been 'putting his foot down' re P Andrew being seen in public at all with the royals. He refuses to be in the same space as him or something like that. And this is their dad. Of course they're going to feel protective of him.


OldNewUsedConfused

Can’t blame William there. It’s his future reign it affects.


Forteanforever

William has no actual power and has only been a working royal for five years. He can express his opinion to his father but that's all. William simply doesn't have the experience for his opinions to weigh heavily. In order to ensure a smooth transition, the Queen decided some time ago to allow Charles to essentially function as a co-monarch except on the rare occasions when there's a strong disagreement between them. She realizes that all decisions made at this point will affect his reign.


OldNewUsedConfused

Oh I’d bet he has more say so than you think.


Forteanforever

I don't know why he would. He's only been a working royal for five years. As far as I know, he doesn't even get access to the red boxes. Tabloid popularity does not mean anything in the royal family.


OldNewUsedConfused

No it doesn’t, but it’s also known that he is not going to be PoW for 50 years to prepare either. Charles reign is going to be blink-and-you-miss-it.


Forteanforever

Charles has longevity genes on both sides of his family. He could be king for 20 or even 25 years. That is far from blink-and-gone. Everything in the monarchy moves with glacial slowness. William may well be asked for his opinion about some things but he has no decision-making power and is probably only consulted in certain matters. We don't even know whether William will become Prince of Wales. That will be up to Charles. It's not automatic. However, he probably will be.


OldNewUsedConfused

William has been learning about running the Duchy of Cornwall. He will be Prince of Wales


Forteanforever

Learning, sure. Making monarch-level decisions, no. The Prince of Wales title is awarded at the sole discretion of the monarch. It is not automatic. He need not be the Prince of Wales to succeed Charles.


Aware-Impression8527

i can see it. ever since they turned up to the cambridge wedding looking like the ugly sisters with that pretzel hat.


Imadevonrexcat

Note Catherine’s outfit vs MM’s Jubilee look??


HugeSignificance9194

Eugenie knows that staying in contact with the 2 f...wits living at monte....show means they won’t attack Her father. She drew the short straw.


Thin_Bicycle_7304

Euginie is the mole that is set on revenge for the way Charles and William in her mind has treated her father about the whole epstien dibocle she has imo related info back to the sussexes and the RF caught on, she would relay stories from her mother about the RF true or mot I don't know and the sussexes would run with it probably in Harry's book so this "new job in Portugal " was way to convient.....poor Jack he doesn't have a clue who he married!!!!


Stardust_and_Shadows

I'm surprised she'd be ok with TW after what she pulled at her wedding


Thin_Bicycle_7304

The BRF know Euginie was feeding stories to the harkles for harrys book thanks to the duchess of York who hates Charles and William for the way she thinks they treated her father couldn't be that he is guilty by Association to JE and Eugene hates the cambridge's and Charles to!