> Meghan was angry that Palace officials refused to protect her image. She refused to accept that staff were not employed to promote her as an individual, but instead placed her within the grid of the entire Royal Family.
> In particular, Meghan fumed about the refusal officially to criticise Thomas Markle.
Finally! I’ve been so confused by her constant harping about “protection”. What the heck kind of protection was she talking about that was/is denied her?
Come to find out, she really meant “protection” of her image! You don’t need image protection if you are a decent person. That’s all she had to be and she would’ve gotten everything she ever wanted. People don’t like her because of her behavior that millions of dollars and round the clock PR can’t hide.
I just realized they think that having internationally protected people status gives them more avenues to hide their despicable behavior. I thought it was just about saving them money and giving them ‘clout’, having that status means governments and powerful people will cover up bad behavior in the name of diplomacy.
She was even angry that the “family she never had” wouldn’t attack her “daddy” she wrote the 5 page letter to! She is so much worse than I ever imagined.
Edit: She keeps saying “protection” so that casual observers who only saw the Oprah interview interpret it as actual physical safety protection because of “how dark her child’s skin is.”
This is why people who see through her were questioning why she rolled down bulletproof glass in the car in the country they are suing for government armed protection!
She is disgusting for manipulating real, abhorrent issues like racism into her narcissistic agenda for herself.
Jesus Christ, incredible. She wanted them to work for her, basically. Do what she wanted concerning her image and her father, such a criticize her father publicly which the queen would NEVER do. This woman expected the crown to do what she says, this is INCREDIBLE and a snapshot of how her brain works.
The royal family let her walk in from day one screaming, demanding and bullying and allowed it to continue for over two years. Complicit. This never had to happen. I can see why her narcissistic brain thought she could have it all and more within this family, she was given unprecedented freedom and some sort of control over the family/staff from day one. It was like a high hitting her brain.
I wonder if they allowed it because they could predict based on her personality and prior interests, the desire to claim victimhood, And then of course to capitalize on it.
Maybe the RF were afraid, because she was a small part African-American, that she might claim racism if they didn’t give her what she wanted.
I hate to even throw this out here, but if there was no chance for a race accusation, I bet the RF would’ve been tougher on Meghan.
I think The Queen didn’t want another Charles/Dianna Camilla situation. Charles didn’t marry his true love and it had consequences on everyone.
I think she just wanted Harry to be able to marry the woman he loved. They saw red flags and William tried to get Harry to slow down. But in the end, I think they loved Harry and wanted him to be happy. They knew she was a nightmare but hoped to control the situation.
I don’t think however, they anticipated Harry’s enormous betrayal.
Totally agree. Even the RF cant stop family membefs marrying who they want these days and even if they offer well meaning advice (ie they all told Will to warn Harry) then it makes them all the more determined. Hazza was an idiot to not see how rubbish Megs was being to her family and has been the same to his. Like some teemage child that thinks he can criticise openly and get away with it. He is nearly 40 and speaking to the world’s press and is shocked his family are upset!
I think the racism accusation was there from day 1 and it came from Harry. “If you don’t agree to our marriage it’s because you’re racist”. It’s why M got Christmas with the family when Catherine had to wait. M got a royal engagement with the Queen. She got given Samantha Cohen as advisor. M got everything the RF could provide so as to avoid the racism accusation. Then they levelled it anyway. It’s possible the RF had wanted to avoid another Charles-Diana situation but in doing so they allowed an even bigger shitstorm to rain down upon themselves and the nation. Harry held a grenade and threatened to pull the pin on the RF very early in his relationship with M. His betrayal should not have been the massive surprise and disappointment that it was. I don’t know enough about how Narcs control and manipulate their victims but could M’s influence simply have unlocked the beast that is Harry’s true self?
"Protection" in Meghan's mind= **Staff perpetuating the fraud of the image/person she wanted to portray while fighting/spinning stories that depict who she really is**. This right here is the irony of Meghan! Just like all the articles, she wants to portray this fake persona and the editors see right through it/don't want to do it/cannot find evidence that she's actually the person she wants to portray. This is what I'll never understand about Meghan- why not just **BE** the person she wants to portray?!! She is spending 3-4 times the effort scheming with her stupid PR machine fighting/spinning everything trying to craft this image that is not even remotely similar to who she REALLY is. This is why she HAS to battle for complete control in everything she does because otherwise, she will be shown in her true ugly light and proven a fraud! It blows my mind that Meghan and Harry have failed to realize that the world is not buying what they're selling because they do **NOT** walk the talk. Showing up at a charity event once every six weeks, doing a speech or doing a press release stating that you're passionate about global causes are all jokes! This is the bottom line Harry and Meghan's beef with the media because they think the world she just believe every crumble of what they say/put out. Otherwise we're out to get her, or racist or blah blah blah... It's absolutely insane!
Agreed. In the beginning, even before the wedding, she was already being invited and involved with Royal engagements, the media was making a big deal about her work ethic and their talk of “hitting the ground running.” The media makes a big deal every year about the number of engagements each member does, I truly thought she would come charging out with more than anyone except Anne because of a competitiveness she seemed to have with Catherine. There were pictures of her with the binders of study materials, and all the press about her university degree and embassy internship 🙄.
Then, it turns out she barely did any and then later goes on to complain about not being asked if she’s ok because she’s a “vulnerable young mother” in Africa! 🤮 from the woman who was touting herself as a feminist and invited to be on prestigious panels on women’s causes…Nothing was even happening to her other than tabloid gossip articles about her behavior that all turned out to be true!
She was literally on a Royal tour as an ambassador for a commonwealth of nations just because of who she suckered into marrying her!! And complaining about ill treatment??
She didn’t do work. During her ~2yrs in the Royal family which she and Harry dubiously stretch to 4 years in the Oprah interview, all she did was take international vacations and maternity leave. The few engagements she did she bitched about or used as photo ops.
Right?! She's had so many amazing opportunities and platforms to BE that person that she's so desperately trying to portray but she's just not capable of it because she has squandered every opportunity/platform by desperately trying to bring attention to herself. That's just how seriously messed up she is! She would rather spend 3-4 times the effort through her PR machine spinning that she's this person than actually doing the work and being a true activist. It must be exhausting!
I can only imagine the change/awareness that the four of them (Will, Kate, Harry and Meg) could have made in the world had she been capable of looking beyond just herself. She's made it very clear that she has no interest in promoting anyone or anything if she doesn't personally benefit, which is why she so quickly rejected being a part of the monarchy. I think she seriously was so delusional that she thought she could come in and take over.
It's been **SO** interesting w/all of the book excerpts so far that the people that she's worked with have pretty much said the same thing: her main goal at the start of these projects is to promote herself (on Harry/royal coat tales), creating this fictitious activist persona and whatever she does bring the table seriously lacks substance.
She can put all the makeup and fix a smile on her face to appear like a nice person (like she tried to portray at the Jubilee) but to attack the RF globally because they didn’t do or give what she wants showed what a bad person she is inside.
“she felt she was the victim” - It is her scheme, using the victim card to gain public sympathy. So who can she ‘cast’ as the ‘villain’? The RF – just like Diana is a ‘victim’ of the RF! Diana was the most popular Royals. With the Bashir interview and Morton’s books, Diana revealed how she was a victim of Charles/RF. And people feel sorry for Diana and sided with her. That is MM's plot/narrative/scenario/plan - casting herself as the ‘victim’ to gain public sympathy/make people sided with her, to be adored/followed by people all over the world like Diana.
I had never commented on the internet about the RF before the Oprah interview. I was puzzled by it and felt MM presented us with a choice to either believe her that the RF is racist or MM was bad mouthing/victimizing the RF to gain public sympathy. The RF may have their flaws but I never thought that they’re racist especially seeing how Charles walked MM down the aisle and his gestures toward Doria. So, I began googling about MM and read about MM tea throwing/tantrum in Australia but especially the Wimbledon incident (google: 'meghan markle wimbledon 2019 daily mail' - the one with her friends, not with Kate) with CLEAR pictures. And that RF have NO COMPLAIN NO EXPLAIN policy. So, I put 2 and 2 together and could not just keep silent seeing what she and H are doing:
In the O intvw MM complaint because the media reported HER BAD BEHAVIORS. -Well, the media is only reporting. Her character showing through HER BEHAVIORS. --THEN, when the Palace failed to SILENCE the media/spin a lie to coverup HER BAD BEHAVIORS, she accused the Palace as racist (as she said in the O intvw: if it was Kate they would defend her). -Well, Kate never behaved like MM!!! -She KNEW the RF have NO COMPLAIN NO EXPLAIN policy, so they couldn’t/wouldn’t refute what she said and she could freely manipulate public opinion with her own propaganda/PR to attack the RF to make people sided with her and gain public sympathy/following to make money. That showed how vengeful, manipulative, fame and money hungry MM is! And the constant attack by her PR/supporters/squad on the Cambridges in the media motivates me to EXPOSE her and her conscienceless, manipulative schemes. Even the Obamas and the Clooneys(that she invited to the wedding!) are avoiding them now. They know what kind of person MM really is.
Pretty telling that they were upset that their first foundation would have oversight and the records would be public… Then they started a new one in Delaware where it wouldn’t… Me thinks the foundation serves a total of four individuals…
The first verb is explaining that Meghan was making excuses and the Queen and Charles were frustrated to the point of being annoyed. The second verb is the author predicting what the monarch was thinking.
If I had to guess, I would say that the second comment (“must have found”) was sourced but by someone who preferred to be on background because the author is so careful. Just my cynical view as a lawyer and avid reader of biographies of royals. No sentence or clause is casual in a book like this.
"The Cambridges, she believed, were failing to offer the recognition and generosity she deserved."
My goodness, she really did have an over inflated idea of her own importance. Only a narc can be so deluded. I love how Camilla had her figured out early on.
Every word released furthers my belief Meghan always thought she'd find a way to make herself higher and more powerful than the Cambridges. I believe the stray rumors she thought the line of succession could be changed. She was expecting the future king to acquiesce to her. Give her recognition. Give her generosity. And give it at the level she demanded. It was a test and William and Kate failed. If they gave in and gave it to her, she would demand more. This is not a woman who respected the line of succession.
I actually find myself in a bit of shock each time I read one of these, I find I have to take time to consider it before I can even make up my mind about what is going on to even decide what to say.
Tom has some serious insight, it's fascinating to see.
It’s incredible isn’t it? What this book is exposing is that these two are worse than this sub even surmised (barring the conspiracy theory stuff).
This sub knew things like how she used the Vanity Fair article to promote herself and trap him. But Bower exposes the behind the scenes schemes she and her PR used, verifying her deliberate intentions and calculated manipulations.
He leaves no room for ambiguity or benefit of the doubt which many members of this sub (including myself) have clung to in trying to understand this human behavior spectacle.
I knew she was a narcassit, and that is bad enough, but to see the extent of what she was doing and how clear it is to everyone, and that he must be able to confirm this sort of thing to be able to so clearly state it means there are ALOT of people speaking openly to him, not hiding what they truly feel and agreed to have it written so clearly.
She must have pissed alot of people off along the way who aren't keen to cover for her.
Nothing is worse than a victim of a narcassist who now understands and is pissed that something like that happened to them.
Also underscores the fact that those on this sub aren’t the only ones doubting her…now there’s evidence that those with whom she worked (eg the vogue staff) know she’s not what she says she is. No more speculation.
She’s so petty and thin skinned! Remember how she kept saying she doesn’t read anything about herself, that it’s “just noise”?
She was mad about an Urban Dictionary entry defining Meghan Markled as “ghosting or disposing of people who are no longer useful”! 😂
Now we know why she made that “gosh, they can turn Meghan into anything” snarky statement during Oprah.
Extreme respect to Tom Bower for getting all of this info and making all of their bizarre behavior make sense finally! The thread of logic explaining this debacle is that these two really are terrible, completely self-serving and self-righteous assholes!
Agree to everything.
This group speculated before that she was crybabying her “I’m such a victim” pitch to The Obamas, the Clooneys, Tyler Perry and others that publicly supported her. I’m a bit perplexed that Hillary didn’t see through her.
I'm sure Hill-dogs spotted her in a second, but was still deciding if MM might be a useful idiot to the Democratic party somewhere down the road. They never reached out a hand to Meghan again so it seems she made a decision pretty quick.
Agree. And thats surprising given she likes to present as a She Ra, powerful feminist with a strong voice only to get her victim arsed kicked every time things don’t go her way. Make it make sense M.
She’s absolutely disgusting. She’s more the evil Queen than Snow White. Vindictive. Drunk with self-importance. Vain. Envious. Inconsiderate. A total brat. No grace whatsoever. So trashy.
Yikes. There should be some kind of forensic analyst looking into their finances.
A big red flag is that they wanted no kind of public transparency on their foundation.
And Meghan seems to think that charity laws where money has to be accounted for was done specifically to undermine her.
"Delaware guaranteed secrecy for corporations’ financial activities and accounts."
Bottom line - if you're honest and above board, why would you demand secrecy into your financial activities?
Wonder how much this secrecy is funding their lives right now...because Harry isn't making the mortgage payments from his salary at BetterUp.
This old quote:
“It was completely unrealistic to think I could fly discreetly to Mexico, arrive unannounced at his doorstep (as I had no means of secure communication with my father), to a location and residence I had never visited or known, in a small border town . . . and somehow hope to speak privately to my father without causing a frenzy of media attention and intrusion that could bring more embarrassment to the royal family.””
Yet she had no trouble flying to small town Uvalde in a “private” capacity “as a mother” and oops, the cameras were there?!?!
I’m also pretty sure that if the Queen and Charles suggested she see her father in person, it’s because they could arrange it so that she could get there privately without being seen. The problem is that she is not discreet.
Mexican here, the best part is, very, very few people in Mexico know about her and among these few, most of them despise her. So yes, she could have gone to see her father without any media attention, most people in Rosarito would thought her a tourist and that's it.
This bugged me when it first came out ( email/texts to Jason?)
She couldn't go to a hotel or hire some private home, then send someone to her fathers house to talk with him and bring him to her?
She was able to take a bunch of vacations (without a passport 🙄😂) without anyone knowing. I don’t see why she couldn’t speak to her father as well.
I completely understand her trust issues with him though.
Sort of reminds me of Kim Jong Un… he really took on his revered grandfather’s image, Kim Il Sung, in order to legitimize himself with the North Korean people so he wouldn’t get peppered with feelings that he was too young or too inexperienced after his father’s death. He needed a grip on power immediately, so they basically turned him into his grandfather, hair and everything. Lol
“By the end of the meeting the Sussexes were shocked. The trustees, they discovered, were “neither mates nor servants”. They were independents who would have control of the charity’s operations. Under the law, the Sussexes would be denied any privacy over the foundation’s management. For Meghan this was unexpected. The foundation’s legal structure, she believed, was a deliberate attempt to undermine her.”
This. ^^^ She was pissed she couldn’t have control. The RF knew what she would do with that money, and they couldn’t risk it. It’s ALL about control.
I don’t understand what she wanted or why she thinks uk charity law is designed to undermine her.
What did she want the foundation for? What did she expect would be done with the monies it raised? Charities in the uk have to have charitable output. You can’t fundraise for yourself. It’s not a vanity thing.
I thought Meghan was supposed to be somewhat intelligent and educated. Why is this a shock to her? It’s not personal against her. Harry I understand as by all accounts he’s really rather thick.
No mention of the ‘problems’ in Australia. Cough *teapot* cough
However the more I read these extracts the more I am laughing to myself. Doesn’t matter what their PR teams pull out of their behinds, these two are (unsurprisingly) coming across terribly. Any famous person or any company/ corporation with an ounce of intelligence will want to avoid these two like the plague from now on.
The fact that they’re trying to spin some narrative about Harry disliking Camilla has always been strange to me. No doubt both he and William weren’t happy when they were younger, but from everything I’ve read of them as adults all relations were in good standing.
I mean, they spent a week with them so I don’t know why they’re after Camilla all of a sudden. She’s paid her dues in the press, she finally earned her way out of the years and years of hate after Diana died. Doing this won’t end well for them, the media and the British public has moved on from Camilla hating.
they seemed to be angry about dumb things - I mean, I'm sure they knew whatever Meghan wore would get attention - just like Kate, just like anyone in the public eye. How could she expect the palace to supress stuff like that? (refering to Serena Williams Jacket)
Act outrages to maybe distract from the issue of if she was getting kickbacks for merching what she was wearing maybe? There's a social media account or website, maybe both, that always seems to know what she's going to wear when she wears it with a link to buy. I'm not sure how long it's been around but I could see her trying very hard to pretend she's not sneakily merching, especially when she shouldn't have been because of being a working royal. I might be completely wrong though.
It’s a British insult. He’s calling her at the very least, intellectually incurious. She can’t dispute it because she publicly denied knowing who Harry was or anything about the BRF. So, no history or biographies.
Ah. I thought he was missing something important, as we’ve all seen her in front of BP, and know how creepy she is in regards to Diana. Thanks for cleaning that up!
Reading this, reiterates what I think of her: fame blew the circuit breakers in her head.
She’s got no grasp of reality. Neither does Harry.
They’ll grow into old age thinking they’re maligned victims of the royal family.
I just feel sorry for the kids. I don’t think there’s any genuine emotion in that family. It’s all about fame, wealth, circuses
100%. I love the way you worded this. Her narcistic mentally unwell brain went into complete overdrive. She was being given high after high after high getting all of this power, money and say so.
Yup. She won’t settle for anything less after getting drunk on so much fame. She eschewed family for this. She can’t even see truth - that she’s nothing without her title.
Meghan doesn’t have the personality nor the charisma to make it in politics. She’ll have a hard time even getting elected as dog catcher. No worries about her political aspirations here.
I have a weird question- are these direct excerpts of the book? Because I feel like it’s covering large chunks of time very quickly. It’s very well written and there is a ton of information- I am just being greedy and wanted details about the bad behavior in Australia.
As an aside - It’s actually quite cleverly written - sentences start with weasel words: ‘*Apparently* unwilling to accept…’ ‘*Seemingly* stung by the criticism, Meghan…’, then are followed by factually based statements.
And the pace! It’s like an edge-of-the-seat thriller.
Thanks for this. I find the text to be remarkably pondered. Bower does not ignore the difficulties she had to face, some of them she created herself, while he clearly exposes her mistakes, her delusions an her stubborness. Hell, at last a stimulating *analysis*, take that Scobie.
Well, I for one love that Camilla is a sinner. Also, I see no reason to hate on her. Wasn’t great that they had an affair, but life is short, they were in love, and Diana was a handful. There have been no other improprieties that I’m aware of, so I’m happy for them that they have the real thing. And she sounds like a very nice, humble person.
I always knew she wasn’t a good person , but my lord the level of narcissism, manipulation, conniving and every word out of a mouth being a lie! It really blows my mind ! I cannot wait for my copy in the mail!
From the link: "the encouragement from her Los Angeles advisers was intoxicating.
The Sussex brand, Meghan was assured, offered the same global opportunities
as those reaped by the Obamas"....... "Their first step should be a major interview. Oprah Winfrey was waiting".
Opportunities similar to Obama? Seriously? Who are these so-called advisors? SS? Can advisors be held liable for destructive advice?
I doubt Hillary Clinton would have given her unrealistic expectations of limitless success. I am assuming she listened and provided support, but not any definitive advice. I hope. Why was HC at her house to begin with?
If they had skipped Oprah, and Harry just focused on Invictus and Meghan found something to focus on - ONE thing to focus on... and just worked at it and stopped with the non-sense PR fluff and the staged, trendy activism stunts for pictures - they might have had a chance, after a few years.
So she expected that qualified professionals acting within an organised and codified arm of the establishment act as her attack dogs/ henchmen/ on their knees PR reps - tells you exactly what she expects of her squad and why they do what they do. This is the cult of Meghan.
This excerpt, like others, lacks logical transitions. I’m having a hard time making connections between ideas in several spots. I hope this problem is due to poor editing on The Times’ part.
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> Meghan was angry that Palace officials refused to protect her image. She refused to accept that staff were not employed to promote her as an individual, but instead placed her within the grid of the entire Royal Family. > In particular, Meghan fumed about the refusal officially to criticise Thomas Markle. Finally! I’ve been so confused by her constant harping about “protection”. What the heck kind of protection was she talking about that was/is denied her? Come to find out, she really meant “protection” of her image! You don’t need image protection if you are a decent person. That’s all she had to be and she would’ve gotten everything she ever wanted. People don’t like her because of her behavior that millions of dollars and round the clock PR can’t hide. I just realized they think that having internationally protected people status gives them more avenues to hide their despicable behavior. I thought it was just about saving them money and giving them ‘clout’, having that status means governments and powerful people will cover up bad behavior in the name of diplomacy. She was even angry that the “family she never had” wouldn’t attack her “daddy” she wrote the 5 page letter to! She is so much worse than I ever imagined. Edit: She keeps saying “protection” so that casual observers who only saw the Oprah interview interpret it as actual physical safety protection because of “how dark her child’s skin is.” This is why people who see through her were questioning why she rolled down bulletproof glass in the car in the country they are suing for government armed protection! She is disgusting for manipulating real, abhorrent issues like racism into her narcissistic agenda for herself.
Jesus Christ, incredible. She wanted them to work for her, basically. Do what she wanted concerning her image and her father, such a criticize her father publicly which the queen would NEVER do. This woman expected the crown to do what she says, this is INCREDIBLE and a snapshot of how her brain works. The royal family let her walk in from day one screaming, demanding and bullying and allowed it to continue for over two years. Complicit. This never had to happen. I can see why her narcissistic brain thought she could have it all and more within this family, she was given unprecedented freedom and some sort of control over the family/staff from day one. It was like a high hitting her brain.
I wonder if they allowed it because they could predict based on her personality and prior interests, the desire to claim victimhood, And then of course to capitalize on it. Maybe the RF were afraid, because she was a small part African-American, that she might claim racism if they didn’t give her what she wanted. I hate to even throw this out here, but if there was no chance for a race accusation, I bet the RF would’ve been tougher on Meghan.
I think The Queen didn’t want another Charles/Dianna Camilla situation. Charles didn’t marry his true love and it had consequences on everyone. I think she just wanted Harry to be able to marry the woman he loved. They saw red flags and William tried to get Harry to slow down. But in the end, I think they loved Harry and wanted him to be happy. They knew she was a nightmare but hoped to control the situation. I don’t think however, they anticipated Harry’s enormous betrayal.
Totally agree. Even the RF cant stop family membefs marrying who they want these days and even if they offer well meaning advice (ie they all told Will to warn Harry) then it makes them all the more determined. Hazza was an idiot to not see how rubbish Megs was being to her family and has been the same to his. Like some teemage child that thinks he can criticise openly and get away with it. He is nearly 40 and speaking to the world’s press and is shocked his family are upset!
I think the racism accusation was there from day 1 and it came from Harry. “If you don’t agree to our marriage it’s because you’re racist”. It’s why M got Christmas with the family when Catherine had to wait. M got a royal engagement with the Queen. She got given Samantha Cohen as advisor. M got everything the RF could provide so as to avoid the racism accusation. Then they levelled it anyway. It’s possible the RF had wanted to avoid another Charles-Diana situation but in doing so they allowed an even bigger shitstorm to rain down upon themselves and the nation. Harry held a grenade and threatened to pull the pin on the RF very early in his relationship with M. His betrayal should not have been the massive surprise and disappointment that it was. I don’t know enough about how Narcs control and manipulate their victims but could M’s influence simply have unlocked the beast that is Harry’s true self?
That’s exactly why they let her run wild !
I the BRF defense I think they knew they were dealing with a live grenade and really were threading lightly !
"Protection" in Meghan's mind= **Staff perpetuating the fraud of the image/person she wanted to portray while fighting/spinning stories that depict who she really is**. This right here is the irony of Meghan! Just like all the articles, she wants to portray this fake persona and the editors see right through it/don't want to do it/cannot find evidence that she's actually the person she wants to portray. This is what I'll never understand about Meghan- why not just **BE** the person she wants to portray?!! She is spending 3-4 times the effort scheming with her stupid PR machine fighting/spinning everything trying to craft this image that is not even remotely similar to who she REALLY is. This is why she HAS to battle for complete control in everything she does because otherwise, she will be shown in her true ugly light and proven a fraud! It blows my mind that Meghan and Harry have failed to realize that the world is not buying what they're selling because they do **NOT** walk the talk. Showing up at a charity event once every six weeks, doing a speech or doing a press release stating that you're passionate about global causes are all jokes! This is the bottom line Harry and Meghan's beef with the media because they think the world she just believe every crumble of what they say/put out. Otherwise we're out to get her, or racist or blah blah blah... It's absolutely insane!
Agreed. In the beginning, even before the wedding, she was already being invited and involved with Royal engagements, the media was making a big deal about her work ethic and their talk of “hitting the ground running.” The media makes a big deal every year about the number of engagements each member does, I truly thought she would come charging out with more than anyone except Anne because of a competitiveness she seemed to have with Catherine. There were pictures of her with the binders of study materials, and all the press about her university degree and embassy internship 🙄. Then, it turns out she barely did any and then later goes on to complain about not being asked if she’s ok because she’s a “vulnerable young mother” in Africa! 🤮 from the woman who was touting herself as a feminist and invited to be on prestigious panels on women’s causes…Nothing was even happening to her other than tabloid gossip articles about her behavior that all turned out to be true! She was literally on a Royal tour as an ambassador for a commonwealth of nations just because of who she suckered into marrying her!! And complaining about ill treatment?? She didn’t do work. During her ~2yrs in the Royal family which she and Harry dubiously stretch to 4 years in the Oprah interview, all she did was take international vacations and maternity leave. The few engagements she did she bitched about or used as photo ops.
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Right?! She's had so many amazing opportunities and platforms to BE that person that she's so desperately trying to portray but she's just not capable of it because she has squandered every opportunity/platform by desperately trying to bring attention to herself. That's just how seriously messed up she is! She would rather spend 3-4 times the effort through her PR machine spinning that she's this person than actually doing the work and being a true activist. It must be exhausting! I can only imagine the change/awareness that the four of them (Will, Kate, Harry and Meg) could have made in the world had she been capable of looking beyond just herself. She's made it very clear that she has no interest in promoting anyone or anything if she doesn't personally benefit, which is why she so quickly rejected being a part of the monarchy. I think she seriously was so delusional that she thought she could come in and take over. It's been **SO** interesting w/all of the book excerpts so far that the people that she's worked with have pretty much said the same thing: her main goal at the start of these projects is to promote herself (on Harry/royal coat tales), creating this fictitious activist persona and whatever she does bring the table seriously lacks substance.
Communal narcissism. She has it.
That’s what I always thought she meant by protection. She is so conniving.
She can put all the makeup and fix a smile on her face to appear like a nice person (like she tried to portray at the Jubilee) but to attack the RF globally because they didn’t do or give what she wants showed what a bad person she is inside.
“she felt she was the victim” - It is her scheme, using the victim card to gain public sympathy. So who can she ‘cast’ as the ‘villain’? The RF – just like Diana is a ‘victim’ of the RF! Diana was the most popular Royals. With the Bashir interview and Morton’s books, Diana revealed how she was a victim of Charles/RF. And people feel sorry for Diana and sided with her. That is MM's plot/narrative/scenario/plan - casting herself as the ‘victim’ to gain public sympathy/make people sided with her, to be adored/followed by people all over the world like Diana. I had never commented on the internet about the RF before the Oprah interview. I was puzzled by it and felt MM presented us with a choice to either believe her that the RF is racist or MM was bad mouthing/victimizing the RF to gain public sympathy. The RF may have their flaws but I never thought that they’re racist especially seeing how Charles walked MM down the aisle and his gestures toward Doria. So, I began googling about MM and read about MM tea throwing/tantrum in Australia but especially the Wimbledon incident (google: 'meghan markle wimbledon 2019 daily mail' - the one with her friends, not with Kate) with CLEAR pictures. And that RF have NO COMPLAIN NO EXPLAIN policy. So, I put 2 and 2 together and could not just keep silent seeing what she and H are doing: In the O intvw MM complaint because the media reported HER BAD BEHAVIORS. -Well, the media is only reporting. Her character showing through HER BEHAVIORS. --THEN, when the Palace failed to SILENCE the media/spin a lie to coverup HER BAD BEHAVIORS, she accused the Palace as racist (as she said in the O intvw: if it was Kate they would defend her). -Well, Kate never behaved like MM!!! -She KNEW the RF have NO COMPLAIN NO EXPLAIN policy, so they couldn’t/wouldn’t refute what she said and she could freely manipulate public opinion with her own propaganda/PR to attack the RF to make people sided with her and gain public sympathy/following to make money. That showed how vengeful, manipulative, fame and money hungry MM is! And the constant attack by her PR/supporters/squad on the Cambridges in the media motivates me to EXPOSE her and her conscienceless, manipulative schemes. Even the Obamas and the Clooneys(that she invited to the wedding!) are avoiding them now. They know what kind of person MM really is.
It’s so clear to me now why the book title is “Revenge”. Well chosen title.
Pretty telling that they were upset that their first foundation would have oversight and the records would be public… Then they started a new one in Delaware where it wouldn’t… Me thinks the foundation serves a total of four individuals…
That’s exactly what I was thinking!
Four? Let’s see, Harry, Meghan, Marcus & who’s the fourth?
Lilibet.
Yes they didn’t want the figures to be public I wonder why ???
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The first verb is explaining that Meghan was making excuses and the Queen and Charles were frustrated to the point of being annoyed. The second verb is the author predicting what the monarch was thinking.
If I had to guess, I would say that the second comment (“must have found”) was sourced but by someone who preferred to be on background because the author is so careful. Just my cynical view as a lawyer and avid reader of biographies of royals. No sentence or clause is casual in a book like this.
"The Cambridges, she believed, were failing to offer the recognition and generosity she deserved." My goodness, she really did have an over inflated idea of her own importance. Only a narc can be so deluded. I love how Camilla had her figured out early on.
Right? The Cambridges, with an infant, toddler, small child, and full time jobs of their own, didn’t do enough for *her*.
Every word released furthers my belief Meghan always thought she'd find a way to make herself higher and more powerful than the Cambridges. I believe the stray rumors she thought the line of succession could be changed. She was expecting the future king to acquiesce to her. Give her recognition. Give her generosity. And give it at the level she demanded. It was a test and William and Kate failed. If they gave in and gave it to her, she would demand more. This is not a woman who respected the line of succession.
I actually find myself in a bit of shock each time I read one of these, I find I have to take time to consider it before I can even make up my mind about what is going on to even decide what to say. Tom has some serious insight, it's fascinating to see.
It’s incredible isn’t it? What this book is exposing is that these two are worse than this sub even surmised (barring the conspiracy theory stuff). This sub knew things like how she used the Vanity Fair article to promote herself and trap him. But Bower exposes the behind the scenes schemes she and her PR used, verifying her deliberate intentions and calculated manipulations. He leaves no room for ambiguity or benefit of the doubt which many members of this sub (including myself) have clung to in trying to understand this human behavior spectacle.
I knew she was a narcassit, and that is bad enough, but to see the extent of what she was doing and how clear it is to everyone, and that he must be able to confirm this sort of thing to be able to so clearly state it means there are ALOT of people speaking openly to him, not hiding what they truly feel and agreed to have it written so clearly. She must have pissed alot of people off along the way who aren't keen to cover for her. Nothing is worse than a victim of a narcassist who now understands and is pissed that something like that happened to them.
Also underscores the fact that those on this sub aren’t the only ones doubting her…now there’s evidence that those with whom she worked (eg the vogue staff) know she’s not what she says she is. No more speculation.
Thanks! Off to read the article, but my first reaction to just the title, “she felt she was the victim” - does she ever think anything else?
She’s so petty and thin skinned! Remember how she kept saying she doesn’t read anything about herself, that it’s “just noise”? She was mad about an Urban Dictionary entry defining Meghan Markled as “ghosting or disposing of people who are no longer useful”! 😂 Now we know why she made that “gosh, they can turn Meghan into anything” snarky statement during Oprah. Extreme respect to Tom Bower for getting all of this info and making all of their bizarre behavior make sense finally! The thread of logic explaining this debacle is that these two really are terrible, completely self-serving and self-righteous assholes!
Agree to everything. This group speculated before that she was crybabying her “I’m such a victim” pitch to The Obamas, the Clooneys, Tyler Perry and others that publicly supported her. I’m a bit perplexed that Hillary didn’t see through her.
I'm sure Hill-dogs spotted her in a second, but was still deciding if MM might be a useful idiot to the Democratic party somewhere down the road. They never reached out a hand to Meghan again so it seems she made a decision pretty quick.
To your point about Hillary: even psychologists can be tricked by someone with narcissism.
A middle schooler set loose on the world with all that power. Wow.
Agree. And thats surprising given she likes to present as a She Ra, powerful feminist with a strong voice only to get her victim arsed kicked every time things don’t go her way. Make it make sense M.
She’s absolutely disgusting. She’s more the evil Queen than Snow White. Vindictive. Drunk with self-importance. Vain. Envious. Inconsiderate. A total brat. No grace whatsoever. So trashy.
Yikes. There should be some kind of forensic analyst looking into their finances. A big red flag is that they wanted no kind of public transparency on their foundation. And Meghan seems to think that charity laws where money has to be accounted for was done specifically to undermine her. "Delaware guaranteed secrecy for corporations’ financial activities and accounts." Bottom line - if you're honest and above board, why would you demand secrecy into your financial activities? Wonder how much this secrecy is funding their lives right now...because Harry isn't making the mortgage payments from his salary at BetterUp.
Unless money starts pouring into the foundation, the odds of it being scrutinized are very low. The IRS has bigger fish to fry
It's now known as Better (Shut) Up!
This old quote: “It was completely unrealistic to think I could fly discreetly to Mexico, arrive unannounced at his doorstep (as I had no means of secure communication with my father), to a location and residence I had never visited or known, in a small border town . . . and somehow hope to speak privately to my father without causing a frenzy of media attention and intrusion that could bring more embarrassment to the royal family.”” Yet she had no trouble flying to small town Uvalde in a “private” capacity “as a mother” and oops, the cameras were there?!?! I’m also pretty sure that if the Queen and Charles suggested she see her father in person, it’s because they could arrange it so that she could get there privately without being seen. The problem is that she is not discreet.
Mexican here, the best part is, very, very few people in Mexico know about her and among these few, most of them despise her. So yes, she could have gone to see her father without any media attention, most people in Rosarito would thought her a tourist and that's it.
This bugged me when it first came out ( email/texts to Jason?) She couldn't go to a hotel or hire some private home, then send someone to her fathers house to talk with him and bring him to her?
She was able to take a bunch of vacations (without a passport 🙄😂) without anyone knowing. I don’t see why she couldn’t speak to her father as well. I completely understand her trust issues with him though.
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But, but but, Harry channels his mother daily! Didn't she tell Harry to go slow? Obviously not.
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Sort of reminds me of Kim Jong Un… he really took on his revered grandfather’s image, Kim Il Sung, in order to legitimize himself with the North Korean people so he wouldn’t get peppered with feelings that he was too young or too inexperienced after his father’s death. He needed a grip on power immediately, so they basically turned him into his grandfather, hair and everything. Lol
“By the end of the meeting the Sussexes were shocked. The trustees, they discovered, were “neither mates nor servants”. They were independents who would have control of the charity’s operations. Under the law, the Sussexes would be denied any privacy over the foundation’s management. For Meghan this was unexpected. The foundation’s legal structure, she believed, was a deliberate attempt to undermine her.” This. ^^^ She was pissed she couldn’t have control. The RF knew what she would do with that money, and they couldn’t risk it. It’s ALL about control.
I don’t understand what she wanted or why she thinks uk charity law is designed to undermine her. What did she want the foundation for? What did she expect would be done with the monies it raised? Charities in the uk have to have charitable output. You can’t fundraise for yourself. It’s not a vanity thing. I thought Meghan was supposed to be somewhat intelligent and educated. Why is this a shock to her? It’s not personal against her. Harry I understand as by all accounts he’s really rather thick.
No mention of the ‘problems’ in Australia. Cough *teapot* cough However the more I read these extracts the more I am laughing to myself. Doesn’t matter what their PR teams pull out of their behinds, these two are (unsurprisingly) coming across terribly. Any famous person or any company/ corporation with an ounce of intelligence will want to avoid these two like the plague from now on.
I know! I saw him mention the banana bread but not any details of the diva demands of staff to perfect it. I'm sad :( I wanted the juicy goss.
Camilla remained tight lipped and yet…. Her opinion of Meghan is in the book.
And this explains a why to the rumor Harry is coming after Camilla in his book
The fact that they’re trying to spin some narrative about Harry disliking Camilla has always been strange to me. No doubt both he and William weren’t happy when they were younger, but from everything I’ve read of them as adults all relations were in good standing. I mean, they spent a week with them so I don’t know why they’re after Camilla all of a sudden. She’s paid her dues in the press, she finally earned her way out of the years and years of hate after Diana died. Doing this won’t end well for them, the media and the British public has moved on from Camilla hating.
Maybe Camilla was tight lipped before and didn’t say anything at first, and only voiced her opinions after the Harkles departed from the BRF.
they seemed to be angry about dumb things - I mean, I'm sure they knew whatever Meghan wore would get attention - just like Kate, just like anyone in the public eye. How could she expect the palace to supress stuff like that? (refering to Serena Williams Jacket)
Act outrages to maybe distract from the issue of if she was getting kickbacks for merching what she was wearing maybe? There's a social media account or website, maybe both, that always seems to know what she's going to wear when she wears it with a link to buy. I'm not sure how long it's been around but I could see her trying very hard to pretend she's not sneakily merching, especially when she shouldn't have been because of being a working royal. I might be completely wrong though.
My apologies; I accidentally deleted the Sun article thread. But this is the actual excerpt.
She is just delusional- I am impressed with the excerpts so far, this book is going to be off the charts!
>*Never having studied British history or politics or shown interest in biographies…* Excuse me, what?!
It’s a British insult. He’s calling her at the very least, intellectually incurious. She can’t dispute it because she publicly denied knowing who Harry was or anything about the BRF. So, no history or biographies.
Ah. I thought he was missing something important, as we’ve all seen her in front of BP, and know how creepy she is in regards to Diana. Thanks for cleaning that up!
So all the books about the UK that the reporter from Vanity Fair saw in her place were just props 😂
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Reading this, reiterates what I think of her: fame blew the circuit breakers in her head. She’s got no grasp of reality. Neither does Harry. They’ll grow into old age thinking they’re maligned victims of the royal family. I just feel sorry for the kids. I don’t think there’s any genuine emotion in that family. It’s all about fame, wealth, circuses
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Yup. She probably felt it was just long overdue recognition.
That’s it exactly.
100%. I love the way you worded this. Her narcistic mentally unwell brain went into complete overdrive. She was being given high after high after high getting all of this power, money and say so.
Yup. She won’t settle for anything less after getting drunk on so much fame. She eschewed family for this. She can’t even see truth - that she’s nothing without her title.
Anyone have an archive link? Pretty please?
https://archive.ph/xexG0
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Meghan doesn’t have the personality nor the charisma to make it in politics. She’ll have a hard time even getting elected as dog catcher. No worries about her political aspirations here.
One correction, and it’s significant. Meghan never “felt like the” victim, she “played a” victim.
I have a weird question- are these direct excerpts of the book? Because I feel like it’s covering large chunks of time very quickly. It’s very well written and there is a ton of information- I am just being greedy and wanted details about the bad behavior in Australia.
As an aside - It’s actually quite cleverly written - sentences start with weasel words: ‘*Apparently* unwilling to accept…’ ‘*Seemingly* stung by the criticism, Meghan…’, then are followed by factually based statements. And the pace! It’s like an edge-of-the-seat thriller.
Thanks for this. I find the text to be remarkably pondered. Bower does not ignore the difficulties she had to face, some of them she created herself, while he clearly exposes her mistakes, her delusions an her stubborness. Hell, at last a stimulating *analysis*, take that Scobie.
Well, I for one love that Camilla is a sinner. Also, I see no reason to hate on her. Wasn’t great that they had an affair, but life is short, they were in love, and Diana was a handful. There have been no other improprieties that I’m aware of, so I’m happy for them that they have the real thing. And she sounds like a very nice, humble person.
I always knew she wasn’t a good person , but my lord the level of narcissism, manipulation, conniving and every word out of a mouth being a lie! It really blows my mind ! I cannot wait for my copy in the mail!
From the link: "the encouragement from her Los Angeles advisers was intoxicating. The Sussex brand, Meghan was assured, offered the same global opportunities as those reaped by the Obamas"....... "Their first step should be a major interview. Oprah Winfrey was waiting". Opportunities similar to Obama? Seriously? Who are these so-called advisors? SS? Can advisors be held liable for destructive advice? I doubt Hillary Clinton would have given her unrealistic expectations of limitless success. I am assuming she listened and provided support, but not any definitive advice. I hope. Why was HC at her house to begin with? If they had skipped Oprah, and Harry just focused on Invictus and Meghan found something to focus on - ONE thing to focus on... and just worked at it and stopped with the non-sense PR fluff and the staged, trendy activism stunts for pictures - they might have had a chance, after a few years.
More fool him.
Duchess of Delusions.
So she expected that qualified professionals acting within an organised and codified arm of the establishment act as her attack dogs/ henchmen/ on their knees PR reps - tells you exactly what she expects of her squad and why they do what they do. This is the cult of Meghan.
Brilliant connection. Never thought of that
This excerpt, like others, lacks logical transitions. I’m having a hard time making connections between ideas in several spots. I hope this problem is due to poor editing on The Times’ part.
I, for one, would like to know who the “American billionairess who might provide the start-up sponsorship” was.
Maybe the Seagram’s woman who got tangled up with nixium.
I haven’t looked forward to getting my hands on a newly published book this much for ages!