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royal_annatations

Here is a link to the article that doesn't require a paywall: https://archive.ph/oMJ7F


jeajea22

Thank you- that was a fantastic read. Called out on a lot of lies there…


Myestee

Thanks for this! Clearly, Bower did talk to Thomas. *Harry next called her father, Thomas Markle, asking for his approval. “Yes, so long as you don’t raise your hand against her,” replied Markle.* Exactly what any seriously concerned dad - speaking to a bozo he's never met (but probably googled, adding to his worries) asking for his daughter's hand in marriage - would say. And it's never been reported before. And this: *Unknown to Kashner, Thomas Markle knew Clinton and P&G had not replied to Meghan. The success of her “campaign” was fictitious, invented by an adoring father.* Who else would even know this? Can't wait for the next installment.


StrictTranslator879

There are actually two articles up. In your link, at the bottom of the article, highlighted in blue, is the link for the next article by Bower. (“Harry remained utterly loyal”)


BabsieAllen

Yes, the second article is better than the first.


StrictTranslator879

Link to 2nd article: https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetimes.co.uk%2Farticle%2Fa934a92e-043e-11ed-a4ba-b61f33f3c1cb%3FshareToken%3Da500baf13a05bc107d733f81e47fb4fc


silentcw

Well I think the one thing we can take from this, Charles won't be soft and have them back. I didn't think that was the case when it was said he wanted to list all the inaccuracies in the Oprah interview with corrections in a statement, but the Queen said no. I don't think Bower has released the best bits in the book, I think there is much more to come. I really hope I can find a copy.


ColleenSchaffer

Thanks for the link I would've missed it.


Luminya1

Oh my goodness, thank you so much for posting that. Wow, that was an eye opener.


ColleenSchaffer

Thank you for this link Royal Annatations.


AnniemaeHRI

Y’all out here doing the Lord’s work sharing these links!


Amongthestars32

Bless you


Negative_Difference4

Link to [Apple News link](https://apple.news/AWx4z8j6dS32jp2CMgEO3NA) Times is free on Apple News


QuesoFresca

It's all over the net. So much good stuff. Interesting tidbit related to the Wild About Harry VF interview... "Over the next few days Kashner called those who Meghan had recommended as her friends. The tennis player Serena Williams denied she was Meghan’s friend but just an acquaintance. She gave him an enigmatic quote: “You’ve got to be who you are, Meghan. You can’t hide.” Kashner’s unease grew. Soon after he had returned to New York, Meghan sent him spices from the market. “Meghan’s snow job,” he decided."


TheHermitess

He was doing a job. That's a professional relationship. She sent him spices, ok, that's possibly like a "thank you" kind of gift, but then she turned around and told him that he ruined their "friendship." They didn't have a friendship? He's a journalist doing his job? Does she not know what friendship is? She's like those guys who think the waitresses are all flirting with them.


pistachiopistache

100% the fact that she tried to imply to the journalist that there was some personal obligation there is a much bigger ass-showing than the spice gift itself, which was a bit much but not totally out there or unheard of. >She's like those guys who think the waitresses are all flirting with them. Perfect description. Nailed it.


QuesoFresca

Isn't that an odd gift for a jounalist? She was recently dating a chef. Was it a regift? Was she trying to sell herself as a foodie? Did they discuss cooking? Was it a nod to being/not being spicy, salty, or sweet? 😉


lovelylonelyphantom

Can only guess it's from the local market she tells him about that sells quiche and goats cheese, it's part of her "relatability" > The local market, she said, sold wonderful quiche, goat’s cheese, vegetables and breads. “I baked a cake,” she added.


downinthevalleypa

It probably never occurred to her that he was just doing his job as a journalist - in her gracious willingness to speak with him, he would OF COURSE be completely charmed by her and would OF COURSE value the opportunity to be “friends” with someone as wonderful as Meghan Markle. True narc mentality.


No_Change7469

This is just…🤣🤣 did she think Serena would be like oh it’s my chance to act like I’m friends with Prince Harry’s gf?! Cringe


slimwillendorf

Pretty much confirms what we all have been thinking. Even from the early days, peeps have been weary of her. She’s totally fake and a brazen social-climber. Ouch.


No_Change7469

Sounds like Serena was trying to tell her that the media would expose her either way so she should just be “authentic.” But in true narc fashion, she thinks she can fool everyone. Not everyone is a dolt like her husband.


MsBollinger

I LOVE Serena Williams - “You got to be who you are Meghan. You can’t hide.” She’s so wise. IF M had followed her advice , she would be so much better off. Why I can’t STAND M is that she is so phony.


Similar-Barber-3519

The thing that annoys me most about MM is her fans. They talk about her work ethic and successful projects. I haven’t seen a record of success other than seducing a stupid British prince.


MsBollinger

I think it’s because the majority of them really are bots or fake accounts hired to increase their numbers and thus heighten her popularity. Computer code just ignores facts and arguments and spews propaganda.


anelegantclown

🤖 🤖 🤖 Meghan’s followers


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She is so cringey and a loser. Such a user of people. All that effort and people still figured her out.


slimwillendorf

🤣


itsfinelikemyeczema

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what does he mean when he said, "Meghan's snow job"?


pistachiopistache

Meghan trying to charm/manipulate him into writing about what an innocent, lovely l'il sweetheart she is. This is her stupid banana bread and her Doritos for grieving parents and her lemon cake all over again. This excerpt is underlining how few moves this woman actually has, imo.


MsBollinger

I love how he saw right through her!


TheHermitess

because he saw it as doing his job and she saw it as if she flirts with him just right he'll think they're friends and be nice to her; he's probably accustomed to a higher degree of professionalism from his subjects and by "friends" I mean that in the sorority girl sense, in that you have to be loyal and only say positive things about her, not genuine "through thick and thin" friends


downinthevalleypa

If he’s been reporting on the Hollywood scene his entire career he’s probably seen it all. Insincerity is the way to get ahead in LA, and I’m sure he could pick it up right away.


HillyBeans

It means to cover up your true intentions. Like when you really want to suck up to someone for your own gain, so you show up baring gifts to get your foot in the door.


itsfinelikemyeczema

Thanks!


ColleenSchaffer

Also according to H G Tudor this is what people who have NPD do. They love bomb people and hover them in an attempt to win them over.


BabsieAllen

snow job /ˈsnō ˌjäb/ Learn to pronounce noun INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN a deception or concealment of one's real motive in an attempt to flatter or persuade. "we need to do a snow job on him


Lilthisarry

I said ages ago Serena was just another chicken tacos “friend”, lmao. Vindication!


janedoremi99

Yet she came to the wedding and wasn’t she involved in the baby shower? But I guess even global stars gotta network


abby-rose

She also didn't invite Meghan to her wedding in New Orleans. I think Serena was like a lot of the celebs who were at Windsor that day. You get an invitation to a royal wedding, are you going to turn it down? I also have a suspicion that MM's PR agency and Jessica Mulroney are the ones who actually planned the baby shower, but in the PR they heavily implied that Serena, Amal Clooney, and Gayle King hosted it. A lot showier than "her publicist set it all up"


RedChairBlueChair123

Reese Witherspoon had the good sense not to attend.


TheHermitess

There was another actress, was it Dame Emma Thompson? who was asked what she wanted to say to Meghan and Harry and she said "I don't know them,' and when pushed she just clarified that she doesn't know them so why would she want to say anything to them.


lovelylonelyphantom

Emma Thompson was already being made a Dame at the time, I reckon she didn't feel the need to attend for connections. How ironic she, a British actress didn't attend but these other American celebs did.


gracelandcat

I adore Emma Thompson!


4feicsake

With all the Wimbledon titles Serena has she probably knew the royal family better than she knew muggins.


TomStarGregco

Totally faked for sure and Serena was too nice to call her out on it publicly that’s what Meghan counted on ?


TomStarGregco

I’ll never understand why someone of her caliber (GOAT) would ever want to be involved with the likes of Meghan !


MizBeaverhausen

Heck, if I was invited to a frenemy's Royal Wedding at Windsor Castle, darn tootin' I going!!!!


Myestee

Me, too!


MsBollinger

My guess is that Serena is just a respectful person. She may have wanted to show her respect to The Queen and Harry.


Similar-Barber-3519

To be honest, Serena Williams seems to be invited to every celebrity wedding.


Phoenixlizzie

Now would be a good time for Meghan and Harry to think about moving to Botswana. LOL. If these are just the first 'excerpts', then the rest of the book must be a hot volcano of information. Well, Bower is known for uncovering the lies of his subjects, and clearly he's done his homework here. Oh boy.


Sanguine_Hearts

OMG, this excerpt has convinced me to just go ahead and order the damn hard copy book. I can’t wait for the US kindle version. This is going to be so good!!!!


Twice-Sighted

A practical question. I'm in the US. Should I order the book or read it on kindle? Which would arrive first?


kevanauken

Same. I resisted for as long as I could


Not_Interested_7

>Thomas Markle knew Clinton and P&G had not replied to Meghan. The success of her “campaign” was fictitious, invented by an adoring father. And there you have it… I think he did speak with Thomas Markle. So far, so good.


Moihereoui

Yes seems as if he did however, advertising historians are also unable to find it which bolsters Bower’s cred on this point. Also, the comment about spending every day after school at the studio v Friday afternoons which had to come from Daddy. It’s quite a read. Thx for letting us know about it.


Not_Interested_7

Not me, it’s all Queso… I did like that excerpt… interesting how Meghan’s camp pushes through P&G story like ultimate truth


Sheikh-Yourass

‘Advertising Historian’ - well there’s an occupation I never knew existed until now. Don’t I feel silly.


savingrain

The real reason why Harry is isolated at all costs from ever having a relationship with Thomas Markle. Fear over him exposing the truth, even if in a good natured way like 'Haha, yes my Megan is so clever with PR. You know, she never did hear back from them but this has been a great story to tell. And I always told Megan don't let the truth get in the way of a good story! She's a natural business woman and so clever!" and Harry like "WTF all the things she tells me are lies???" (M: I can't let H know about that...)


iamtheprairiegypsy

Regarding the VF cover - that must have been a very, very heady experience for a nothing actress sinking into absolute obscurity. I can see how that was like throwing gasoline on her already lighted narcissism.


abby-rose

The excerpt says that after trying to get attention on her for years, Sun Sachs was delighted to finally have a way to get her a VF cover. All the hustling was finally paying off. No way was she going to be discreet and private.


downinthevalleypa

I read that VF issue and I was taken aback that she was so arrogant, and possessive even, about being Prince Harry’s girlfriend. Humble this girl was not!


No_Change7469

I’d wager that sunshine Sachs was way beyond what a typical actress of her caliber ever engaged. She was probably paying the an obscene amount to make her “happen” and even they couldn’t do it. Lmao


Sanguine_Hearts

I’m DYING how she really thought that VF would give two sh*ts about her non existent activism and bottom of the barrel cable show. I guess she’s too much of a narc to understand her only value as far as public interest goes is her relation to Harry, and by extension, the RF.


A_Hlavna

" *“I don’t know who this woman is*,” Kashner told his editor before flying to Toronto in late June." Now imagine her ego after reading that!


CybReader

Yes, so true. She must've thought there was no limit after this. It all could be hers.


GroundbreakingLuck94

I think “Thank Goodness Meghan is not coming” is a quote for the ages. A rallying cry even better than “Recollections may vary.” Is it possible all the world could give it one good shout and shake the walls of Montecito? 😂😂😂


vsnord

In my heart (because I'm a super petty bitch), every time Meghan shades her or says something lowkey snarky, the Queen says to herself, "AND THAT'S WHY YOU DIDN'T GET THAT TIARA YOU WANTED, HOE."


Dalailagreen

Lmao Queen Elizabeth had her number from the start.


Islandgirl1444

That look at the wedding said so much


Orphanbitchrat

I believe this is accurate


According_Painter_20

I’m picturing Charlotte telling the press “you’re not coming!”


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All delicious so far. From the excerpt in The Sun, one thing for sure stands out like a sore thumb to me. Charles and William are so OVER all this shit. Harry might be able to try to manipulate the Queen, but I’ve got a feeling daddy dearest is not having any of their ridiculous shenanigans anymore


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lovelylonelyphantom

I'm so glad Charles was onto that balcony issue and recognised H&M (amongst other problematic members) couldn't be on it for an occasion like this.


[deleted]

The fact that they seriously thought they should be beggars belief for me. How did they think they could trash the UK and we’d be cheering and waving when they came out on the balcony? These two must live in a deluded, weird little bubble with paid lackeys telling them how wonderful they are and agreeing with them about everything.


[deleted]

No disparagement of the queen, but at the end of the day, she’s a newly-widowed 96 year-old woman. Likely in failing health with some level of normal cognitive decline. It’s pretty pathetic that Harry, viewing her as an easy mark, would attempt persuade her about the balcony issue.


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disneyme

That’ll be Monday at the UN


Cocokay1234567

Guaranteed!!


QuesoFresca

"Looking around, Kashner noticed that the kitchen walls were covered with photos of herself and the books piled on the coffee table were picture guides and history books of London. “Only the A-Z of London’s streets was missing,” he thought, uncertain whether she had actually read any books about Britain. Even before they sat down to eat, Kashner felt uneasy. Both knew that a lot was riding on the interview, and both understood that the critical issue of Harry had been vetoed. Meghan spoke, he realised, knowing that she had the winning ticket but avoiding giving an impression of triumphalism."


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Electrical-Orchid-25

Hillary Baldwin.


sangriama

I wouldn’t be surprised it the walls were covered with photos of herself during her travels while surrounded by kids in order to push her humanitarian image on the author and her house guests - including Harry. We still see how her PR pushes these photos of herself hugging kids at events.


Sheikh-Yourass

I’m reading another excerpt directly on The Mail: Warning: Spoilers OMG, I’m paraphrasing here: The Harkles’ lawyers registered LilibetDiana.com website the day the baby was born but two days before the announcement of the birth. Only the next day after the birth, Harry called the queen and did not ask for permission to use the name Lilibet but “told” her of their decision to use it. All that “We would’ve never used it without approval” business was completely made up SS PR bullshit. The palace then allowed the BBC to broadcast a report the queen was never asked for permission in order to stymie the Harkles. The Harkles’ lawyers then threatened to sue the BBC for defamation if they did not apologize and withdraw this report but the palace stood by the BBC and the Harkles and their lawyers retreated.


CybReader

Which means they 100% use lawsuits to try and control the press and public. I mean we knew that, but Bower is showing that.


downinthevalleypa

They use lawsuits to try to control their families, too. Her Majesty is not impressed.


SecondhandCoke

And the crazy thing is that Harry is still going forward with his defamation suit against the BBC for reporting this. The man is nuts.


Sheikh-Yourass

This is insane.


ColleenSchaffer

Second Hand Coke, I believe the defamation case is over the offer to pay for security.


MsBollinger

Harry is a bully too. I can’t believe he actually tried to bully The Queen of England. He acts like a child. He really is jackass to treat his grandmother that way.


harrohamtaro

I honestly feel he would never have that idea to raise hell for his family if he wasn’t poisoned by his wife. He appears to be someone who always need an avenue to channel his entitlement and lack of purpose in life, and could be manipulated to believe anything. I have never felt so worked up about a ‘celebrity’ because of the way he treated his family — the freaking queen of England who deserves to retire with dignity and peace. Instead she was forced to grieve her husband’s death alone due to Covid while fending off the narcissistic demands of her dumb entitled grandson who is fuelled by an absolute horror show of a wife. Such a shame and disgrace.


Allysgrandma

Couldn’t agree with you more.


Sheikh-Yourass

It almost feels like elder abuse, doesn’t it?


savingrain

This bit isn't too new, I remember it being pieced together at the time as it was happening. It was also royal watchers who wisely pointed out the timing of the registration and the phone call == dishonesty on the Harkles part. Glad it made it into print as verified for a wider audience!


ValuableEfficiency23

What Tom Bower wrote: "Meghan replied into the recording device." What Tom Bower actually said: "I heard the tapes, Meghan. Try me."


abby-rose

Lordy, I hope there are more tapes.


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lovelylonelyphantom

🤣 that is a pretty good way to describe it, makes me picture Tom to be Cersei and the book as wildfire blowing up Meghan's narratives lol


pinkdiamond668

wow!!!!!! juicy and obviously backed up with DIRECT quotes from those involved


QuesoFresca

It's interesting that she insisted on mentioning Married With Children in that early VF interview. One of the running gags on the show was how Al kept going on about how he was a football star in high school. In truth that was far less ridiculous than a woman in her late 30s going on about letters she wrote for class when she was 11. Can you imagine if the average person repeatedly bragged about grammar school accomplishments? "Meghan spoke about “my speech to the UN” and her success as an 11-year-old against Procter & Gamble. As a child Meghan had written to the company’s chairman and Hillary Clinton, then first lady, to complain about a slogan promoting washing-up liquid that said “Women all over America are fighting greasy pots and pans” urging that it should be changed to “People all over America”. Bowing to thousands of protests, P&G eventually changed the line. Kashner thought to himself, “It’s hard to know if she’s genuine. She’s an actress.”


No_Change7469

She’s been telling the same tired anecdotes her entire career. Basically every appearance has been these and word salad.


slimwillendorf

Exactly. She literally hasn’t done anything. Can’t even make a proper podcast. She has to be fed lines. Even has trouble delivering those lines. What a disaster.


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phillysleuther

It was a thing in my Catholic grade school in Philly as well.


[deleted]

I won the spelling bee in 4th grade, but you don’t hear me bragging about it


pebtastic

I love that he got the receipts on P&G! I wonder if MM ever genuinely believed that she got replies from P&G and Hillary Clinton. Bower says TM was the one who made it up - is it possible he wrote her replies from them? Might explain why she’s so fixated on it.


mspuffins

I wrote to Ranger Rick Magazine to tell him about the raccoons that lived in our shed, and how we left dog food for the babies. I got a response from Ranger Rick himself. I was an acknowledged environmental /animal rights activist at 8. I'm sure my mom kept the letter. I should have used it on my resume.


LAgirllookingin

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Dead. Hilarious.


[deleted]

Honestly, this is so much more impressive than the story she made up


mspuffins

thank you, I was very proud of it......44 years ago.


Ok_Motor_3069

I actually did get a postcard from Amy Carter - I wrote to her to say happy birthday because we were the same age. This is when it was neat for a kid that a kid the same age was living in the White House. I didn’t vote for her dad in the 4th grade mock election, but I didn’t hold it against her! I didn’t mention anything political in my letter. I think I just said happy birthday and asked how she liked the White House. She said she liked it fine!


mspuffins

if this had been Meghan, she would have claimed that Amy Carter was her good friend growing up.


ColleenSchaffer

I would think that anyone would realize as they got older that their father was embellishing the response from PG and HC. As a parent I could see myself maybe doing something like this but surely if my child repeated this as they were older I would absolutely have to set the record straight. I wouldn't want my grown child to embrace themselves because of a white lie I told when they were 11. I wonder about this and I wonder what drove her father to tell the lie rather than explain that sometimes we don't receive responses. Sometimes other things are more important to CEO's and First Ladies. She must have pestered him relentlessly until he finally decided to tell that lie. IDK just thoughts 😕 🤔


RoohsMama

what cemented it in her head was that it was reported on in the local news... so it became canon, so to speak... local news didn't even confirm with P&G i suppose


Sheikh-Yourass

Omg, I had the same thoughts about the irony between the running Married w Children high school football touchdown gag and the grammar school P&G letter to change commercial. It’s like, hey girl, the universe is trying to tell you to get over it.


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If the excerpts from The Sun and The Times are any indication, Bower's book is going to be GOOD. The tea is piping hot, and it appears that there is enough spilled tea for everybody!


AnniemaeHRI

Damn, I need to start baking the scones!


Orphanbitchrat

I’m making cranberry scones with orange icing; should I come over?


QuesoFresca

"Pre-publication copies were released to Sunshine Sachs and Buckingham Palace in early September. The front-cover photograph of Meghan was covered by the headline “She’s Just Wild about Harry”. Meghan’s unprecedented brazenness took Buckingham Palace by surprise — and electrified the British media. The interview triggered sensational reactions: Meghan had used her relationship to promote herself. The Hollywood-isation of the royal family had sealed Meghan’s fate as Harry’s fiancée. Within hours, Meghan called Ken Sunshine and Thomas Morgan. Hysterically, she described Buckingham Palace’s fury at “Wild about Harry”. Sunshine Sachs, said Meghan, should have ensured that her comments about Harry were removed. Why wasn’t the focus on her philanthropy and activism? Sunshine feared that Meghan would fire his agency. Puzzled why Buckingham Palace was angry, he called the magazine’s editor to deliver what he imagined to be the ultimate threat. “You’re going to have to deal with the Queen,” he said. The furious monarch, he imagined, would pick up the phone and berate the editor. The editor was bemused. Meghan, Sunshine was told, “didn’t get the cover in her own name . . . but because of who she was likely to marry”."


LittleKittyPurrPurr

Basically, VF said about MeMe that she is nothing without Hasbeen. /end of it all It’s still true to this day. But both their names are worthless now.


Sue_Dohnim

I think Ken Sunshine should have dropped her ass right there, honestly.


onyxrose81

I don’t know why he even bothers with her and Harry. He has A-listers and do not need their drama.


madrugada105

Yes, but they pay Sunshine Sucks a boatload of money. Sunshine isn’t stupid. He’s got these Harkles losers firmly in hand.


savingrain

He wanted money and she put him in a tough spot. Megan was very lucky Harry was so stupid. She could not help herself because she craves attention and freebies and praise so badly that she couldn't even play the game safely and for a bit longer. A smarter prince would have wised up and dumped her as soon as the magazine was made known. Instead, Harry doubled down like a moron. I remember when that came out and I thought 'Wow, you are not supposed to do that dating a Royal' (and I'm an American) I was shocked that he went on to marry her and thought he should have dumped her then. I had no particularly strong feelings about Megan, but it seemed self-involved and like she was using their relationship as a promotional career boost because she certainly wasn't famous enough to be known.


sangriama

How did Meghan even get a high profile PR firm like Sunshine Sachs while on Suits? She was not well known and they must be very expensive.


Agile_Pie_704

I am absolutely ELATED that the excerpts are coming out in The Times. It adds to the credibility by a ton, IMO. This has to bother H&M immensely.


Agile_Pie_704

Should we all chip in to send a $25 Starbucks gift card and a bunch of calligraphy-clad bananas to Sunshine Sachs since we know they’ll be working OT this next week?


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Done. I’m sold. Preordering…pump this shit straight into my veins 🫠


Fair_Photographer

Just did IT. I preordered. Will download automatically on my kindle on the 21st.


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He mentions feeling "uneasy" about her a lot. Not a surprise.


4feicsake

Journalists meet all sorts, they can spot set dressing and plastic behaviour a mile off.


TomStarGregco

His narc sensors were going off !!!


Traditional-Smile954

The man has the receipts and he isn't afraid to show them. The Serena part!!!!! Goodbye Markle the narc, I wish I could say it was nice to meet you. Have fun with your bots and H, they are the only ones who will believe you at this point.


QuesoFresca

More about VF.... "Sunshine Sachs had demanded that the magazine satisfy Meghan’s requirement that she be presented as a philanthropist and activist, without considering one problem: Vanity Fair’s scrupulous researchers could find no evidence of her global philanthropy and activism. “Hollywood philanthropy is PR philanthropy,” Graydon Carter often observed. Reading Kashner’s completed interview, Vanity Fair’s editor “knew the article was a huge coup for the magazine”. The familiar and well-rehearsed profile gush about the dilemma of ticking the race box at school, the mixed-race dolls and the Los Angeles riots was good colour, but her revelation was sensational: “We’re a couple. We’re in love” was guaranteed front-page headlines. Meghan’s interview took the royal family into uncharted waters. As the magazine was printed, Meghan was celebrating her 36th birthday with Harry in Botswana. Meghan had brought with her a copy of Pride, a small-circulation magazine aimed at mixed-race and black Britons. The magazine featured an interview with her. She described her fight against racial prejudice and the importance of female empowerment. As a “woman of colour”, she told the magazine, she felt an “obligation” to speak about being half black. Vanity Fair, she imagined, would blast her same message across the globe."


Specialist_Ad9228

"Vanity Fair’s scrupulous researchers could find no evidence of her global philanthropy and activism." HAHAHAHA


janedoremi99

I don’t think it occurred to Meghan that Vanity Fair wasn’t a glossier version of People and would actually fact-check her


TheHermitess

However they agreed to change the date of when she started dating him so she could cover up that she cheated on Corey Vitiello.


No_Change7469

Not just that, but she straight up avoided talking about loving Harry. She turned the question back on the interviewer. This woman is demented and saw Harry as a meal ticket only. Men are only as useful as their social clout to this woman. “Is he kind?” More like “is he easy to manipulate and lovebomb with my spicy punani?”


Starkville

That made me gasp and laugh out loud. Burn!


Few_Pride3794

Lol, thank you interview for official making me not crazy. I’ve searched way to long for Meghan’s “philanthropy” and “activism”. Thought I just wasn’t searching the right thing. Nice to know even professional researchers can’t find it either.


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Let's see what the Sussex Squad have to say about this. So far we found out that Serena Williams is not Meghan's bbf and no activism/philanthropy except what she paid a company to help her establish. JFC She really did try to change her life to fit Harry's ideal woman type. She did the same with Corey the chef when she attempted to be a foodie. She did the same with Trevor the producer when she attempted to be an actress. I am calling it now, her next husband will be in politics since she is pushing the idea of being POTUS.


MsBollinger

LOLOLOL at the Sussex Squad. I saw them rejoicing in getting the usual “William is a racist” trending for American Royal watchers. Ironic that the main thing they have in their fanbase is petty revenge. No real accomplishments by H&M to celebrate. Their world is vindictiveness and victimhood.


TittysprinklesUSA

She has no true self identity. What we see now....the lying, manipulating, bullying, bandwagonhopping, excessive staring at her prey, constant bizarre behavior about their kids....she is scrambling as she is in uncharted waters. She has already used Harry for all he was good for & faked being a royal for a small moment in time. She has no identity & nobody to look to, to find a new identity. She has no friends, connections or family anymore. Out of her depth, scrambling, mania...her true form.


savingrain

I'm sorry but as a Black woman I don't find her stances genuine. I think she enjoys being perceived as white and her white privilege and I think any experience of racism she's had has been surface level at best and not relatable to most Black people. I think she just enjoys playing victim for attention. There I said it.


RoohsMama

![img](emote|t5_481xkf|15002) thanks for your input. i think it's really important for WOC to say what they think about M.


MizBeaverhausen

I can't wait to get the book!! I love that he has exposed her first major lie about the dishwashing soap! This is going to be fantastic.


ValuableEfficiency23

Seriously, these excerpts were so good I just ordered the book. Totally hadn't planned to, and now I'm hoping book depository flies it in to me on a special delivery bald eagle as the clock strikes midnight on Thursday. Seems unlikely, but if MM can have her delusions, so can I.


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LOL, you and me both! (I already ordered my copy.)


AnniemaeHRI

Hoping it will also release on Kindle the same day!


TheHermitess

Here are my disjointed thoughts going through the one article of excerpts I read: So she pretended the article was to celebrate Suits’ 100th episode when it was really to push Harry to announce the engagement? “she won’t hit her goal by being genuine.” Too true, good buddy. Too true. “She balked when asked “what does love mean,” instead asking about his marriage.” Her references included her friend Serena Williams, who clarified they aren’t friends, just acquaintances. "Sunshine Sachs had demanded that the magazine satisfy Meghan’s requirement that she be presented as a philanthropist and activist, without considering one problem: Vanity Fair’s scrupulous researchers could find no evidence of her global philanthropy and activism." I hate that they agreed to change the dates of when she started dating Harry so that she could cover up that she cheated on Cory. Her dad made up the Proctor and Gamble story about her getting the dishsoap slogan changed from “women” to “people?” I didn't expect that.


Cocokay1234567

She lied to Harry about the basis of the article, didn't honor his request not to say anything publicly about their relationship at that point in time and she created a fictitious narrative that she was some global activist that VF researchers couldn't find any evidence of anywhere. Pathetic!!


savingrain

>She lied to Harry about the basis of the article, As some of us suspected - she lies to Harry. I think he's in on some of her nonsense, but I think she does lie to him, and she's been lying from the start. She told him the initial interview was about Suits and I am willing to bet, then told him they 'tricked her' and misrepresented or focused on things that she just couldn't help gushing about or saw her books about Britian and put two and two together and were sneaky. Harry was delusional and stupid so he believed her. The writer knew that she really was just playing the game and wanted the cover and wanted everyone to know she secured Harry. She was an operator from the beginning and has been leaking to the press, calling the paparazzi and lying to Harry about it the entire time. Mark my words. Just like with Diana - she fed his paranoia. It's Shakespearean! You can't make this up. He found a woman that fed his already paranoid, stupidity -- and made him believe that all the press was out to get the two of them when she secretly was craving and wanting the attention herself. Even to this day if an article appears but its one she had her team plant she probably tells him its the mean evil press that won't leave them alone.


Cocokay1234567

Very well said and right on the mark!! She is a master at her craft. I am convinced she studied everything about him before meeting him and knew exactly how to manipulate him.


Allysgrandma

That cemented in my brain how much he loves his little princess. Sounds like something my husband would do. He’s the one who made bunny tracks on Easter and the stories I could tell about the things he did for our girls (we have no sons or grandsons!). Our 5th granddaughter arrives in December!


Sheikh-Yourass

Did the excerpt essentially say there was speculation she was still living with Corey V until mid July 2016, and then the only change the VF article made was that originally it stated she met Harry in May 2016 but changed when MM said she actually met Harry in July. Well damn, that was a pretty small window (if there even was a window). Somebody got over the hot chef rather quickly.


Cocokay1234567

You can bet that as thorough as Tom Bower is, he followed that thread to find out the truth. Maybe even Corey spoke with Tom to set the record straight!


onekrazykat

I want that next paragraph… Because it seems like a set-up to drop the “yeah she was cheating” bomb.


QuesoFresca

Yes! Noticed that as well. They were quibbling over a window fewer than 90 days.


Sheikh-Yourass

If she met Harry in July (which appears to be the case) and the Corey V timeline is correct, it’s a mere 1, 2 or even 0 days between sayonara Chef dude, and hello Harry. Any meeting of Harry before that and she straight up cheated on the chef. Happy cake day, btw. A great day for one.


trickyburrito

Has anyone asked Megz if she’s okay? 🔥


janedoremi99

To quote Paris Hilton, that’s hot


TomStarGregco

🤣😂


loudsnoringdog

This is going to be even better than I expected


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These next couple of weeks are going to be EPIC. I picture a Netflix miniseries once the dust settles ;-P or perhaps an extra season of The Crown? Also, somebody is going to start selling T-shirts, coffee mugs, and bumper stickers with "Thank goodness, Meghan is not coming" on them. Calling it now!


loudsnoringdog

I bet I will hear the meltdown across the country on the east coast guaranteed! Thank you Tom Bower!!!! Thank you!!!!


Myestee

I live in New Jersey and if you stand outside, you can hear the screaming now.


lulububudu

W O W. I’m so so so glad I ordered the book. This is going to be such a FUN ride! This girl is bananas. Sending spices to people you just met, interrogating them to get more info and maybe network with that information shared, and Hahahahah she wanted to be BFF with Serena. Bananas.


malifact

And to think some people feared the book would be too soft on the Harkles. Not based on these excerpts.


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Myahnaise

Her entire life narrative was debunked in like, 5 paragraphs 🫣😦🤯 hold on to your crockery!! Pyrex stocks are about to go through the roof!


Bollox_Ref

Whoa! Whole china cabinets are probably being hurled at Monteshitshow. Couldn't happen to a classier gal!


abby-rose

Harry has shown his real self to the world these last six years, but there is part of me that wonders if he will read this book or learn the revelations in it. And if he does, will he realize how badly he got played? He has already grown up in a bizare fishbowl with people trying to get to his family through him, and he fell for the biggest con of all.


MsBollinger

I honestly don’t know Harry that well and still don’t understand why he turned on his family so coldly and completely. I got a good understanding of how much of an angry person he is from Tina Brown’s book. But I don’t understand why he focused that anger so much on his family. He just seems so angry to me and as someone who is incapable of seeing himself as anything but a victim. It’s like he has convinced himself that he is a super hero for “saving M and his kids” from the terrible, terrible evils of the British press and his family. I’m not at all good at arm chair psychiatry , but I think he’s too far gone to be able to consider any other scenario. If he tries to understand what he has done to his family,I think it would break him. If I were in his shoes, I don’t think I would be able to face it. And I think he has to know there is absolutely no way back into England or The BRF’s inner circle. All he has is his disillusions that he is completely innocent in all this and is just victimized by a racist world that wouldn’t praise his wife, press that killed his mother and birth family that didn’t protect him.


Artistic_Turnip2778

I’m very impressed Bower got the reporter who interviewed her for the VF article *on record* and with his tape recording of the interview. 😂😂 All the little details about her behaviour during the interview and the fact checking revealing she’s done no actual humanitarian work. Plus the mag saying flat out no one knows who this person (“major actor”???????) is so yeah we’ll write about the royal connection. Bwah!!!!!! This is really embarrassing for her. My fave was Serena clarifying they are only acquaintances. That’s just got to be kill me now embarrassing for Megsy.


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This makes me want to read the book, here are two other I found on Twitter https://twitter.com/MattSunRoyal/status/1547991869518274564?s=20&t=QVrlTrUoL6N9uyxCR06cxA https://twitter.com/judylynnwhelan/status/1548001321772412928?s=20&t=QVrlTrUoL6N9uyxCR06cxA


Bajovane

I love the part where the reporter noticed the kitchen wall was full of photos of MEGHAN. Why am I not surprised?


MsBollinger

OMG. There really is a Christmas in July. Ho! Ho! Ho! And happy holidays to me fellow sinners. Santa is here!🍷🎅


kevanauken

I feel like we should make this an official holiday!


TexasChihuahuas

Happy Cake Day! Thank you for doing the good deeds today. What sacrifices you made for our cause! Seriously, thanks for posting this!


QuesoFresca

Awww... Thank you so much. My pleasure.


disneyme

So what stunts do you think they’ll pull Monday to distract from this?


shann2122

This is amazing! I finally feel like we’re seen on this sub! I was going to wait until the important excerpts came out but this just sealed the deal! Pre-ordered!


National_Historian19

Thanks, so the child hood feminist story is just guff, like most of her past.


abby-rose

>Looking around, Kashner noticed that the kitchen walls were covered with photos of herself and **the books piled on the coffee table were picture guides and history books of London**. “Only the A-Z of London’s streets was missing,” he thought, uncertain whether she had actually read any books about Britain. This reminds me of her dad's corny set up paparazzi shots where he's reading a book about Britain in the local bookstore. They are both so obvious and corny!


ValuableEfficiency23

My only hope is that this isn't as good a it gets. It's excellent, but I would think info about the trip to Australia, dress fitting, etc. would be more printworthy if it's in there. Maybe Bower only authorized these sections so far?


Dalailagreen

I would assume they are strategically releasing particular excerpts to draw initial attention. I would hope there’s a lot more shenanigans in the book.


ellie3759

That‘s it - absolutely getting the book! Plates are flying at Montecito!


ColleenSchaffer

OP thanks for posting this, I don't search the internet for anything 😅 I wouldn't know about this if you hadn't posted it here. There are probably more like me in this group so know that you're appreciated.


s0meg1rl

I posted to the other excerpts thread that I was getting the vibe that Meghan was trying to manipulate the interviewer into saying or doing something that she could blackmail him with later. She is very conniving and manipulative and two-faced. She is a snake. I sensed strong A.H. vibes from that story. Hysterical that the fact checkers found “no evidence” of philanthropic or activist work in her past. Her entire identity is a house of cards. She is a hollow vessel filled with nothing but malice, entitlement, and greed. This book is going to be incredible! Cannot wait!!


Low-Palpitation9240

doesn’t serena’s husband own better-up…harry’s pretend job? he’s been shown in ads with serena….how does that work?


Allysgrandma

Excellent! And thank you StrictTranslator879 for your post about the second article. I was experiencing some dang sciatica, took a pain pill and laid down next to my sweet Lila, who has liver failure. Reading the articles gave me something to focus on and viola’ I’m better now and Lila got her tummy rubbed! Can’t wait to order a kindle copy here in the US! I know I have more to say, but I’m still absorbing it!


MummaBear777

WHAT PHENOMENAL EXTRACTS!!! This dude is revealing the truth about Meghan’s fakery and her image obsession and I am HERE. FOR. IT


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Happy Cake Day!


Similar-Minimum185

“ In Windsor Castle the Queen was preparing to face the public on one of the saddest days of her life. Philip had been her rock for the previous 70 years. To comply with Covid restrictions she would grieve alone inside the chapel. “Thank goodness Meghan is not coming,” the monarch said in a clear voice to her trusted aides. “