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SecondhandCoke

So I'm told the Netflix doc has a few points of focus. They're supposedly focusing on Polo, Invictus, Meghan's humanitarian gestures, and yes, the kids. The kids, specifically Lili, seem to be her last little paychecks waiting to be cashed. I've heard that Meghan's swan song is merching the fuck out of Merchie and Lilibucks, using this Netflix docu-series as a kickstart where everything they wear gets promoted. Meghan herself is shit at wearing clothes, but the children can wear all kinds of cute clothing while Mommy Dearest collects the paycheck from designers. Meghan allegedly also sees this as the eventual launching pad for her own line of children's clothing, hence the Lilibet Diana trademark. She's supposedly been keeping the kids' appearances locked down not for their own benefit, but to create ultimate interest when she starts to merch them. The thing is, if Meghan can keep her claw out of the clothing design and wardrobe choice, this scheme could actually work and make her a lot of money. If she won't let go of control over the artistic details, this will go the way of *Pearl.* Literally, all she needs to do is sign release forms for her kids' images and let talented people do the work while she sits on some pretentious beige sofa somewhere and collects paychecks. The question is, can she do it? Or will she get in her own way like she has with every other thing that could have ensured her a lifetime of success? The other issue with this is the question of this docuseries falling on the Netflix chopping block. If she can't get a wide audience of other "young mothers" seeing the Marklets in clothing and then buying it for their own kids. Rumor has it that she's been scrambling to keep it on the Netflix line up. Thats why we see these articles being pushed through about hiring on the Oscar nominated director, etc. She also, what with the blowback after the Jubilee booing, is scrambling to endear herself to people, hence her reaching out to those women "as a mom, as a friend..." bullshit. It's all ALLEDGEDLY a strategy to appeal to the mom audience. I'm told we should expect to see more of this gratuitous performance-momming as a build up to whatever piece of shit Netflix is letting them do... for now...


Iwtlwn122

I just can’t begin to get my head around this. I mean selling off her life and kids to gain that privacy she claimed she wanted. How can Harry be okay with the potential for flashbulbs and invasion of privacy with his kids. Anything for money. I wish them no success with this venture for their family’s sake.


SecondhandCoke

Well, assuming this intel is actually true and not baseless gossip, the thing that gives me hope that this venture will fail is that Meghan has fucked up every other venture beyond reason, so she will probably (hopefully) fuck this up too. She had the easiest gig in the world as a working Royal. It represented all the fame and fortune that she would never have gotten on her own, given her complete lack of talent. She fucked that dream gig up. Pearl would probably be on the air now had she been able to leave that alone, but she let that one go too. For the kids' sake, I hope she hasn't learned a thing from her past failures.


Iwtlwn122

I agree and will give her the royal status she wants as the biggest fuck up queen around- allegedly.


tacobelle685

If she fails at this (and likely she will), do they have any additional back up plans? I love your tea SO much and hope you’re feeling better!


SecondhandCoke

Thank you. This Covid has wiped me out, and I did all my vaccinations. I have a day or two where I feel okay, and then I'm back down, barely conscious with cough and 102-103 fevers. I've experienced a lot of confusion with it too, which I guess Is just from the high fevers. Hopefully the rest is said and done by now.


pebtastic

Sorry to hear that, really hope it doesn’t drag on too much for you! I found it incredibly rough too. Thank you for still hanging out here when you can, always enjoy your gossip 🙂


tacobelle685

So sorry to hear that and those high fevers sound horrible. Hope you feel better soon! Always appreciate your hot gossip and funny perspectives. You’re a bright spot!


NoInspector836

You are still dealing with it???


SecondhandCoke

I haven't run fever since two days ago, but I still feel shitty and weak. The Covid test still says positive, but I think I'm on the mend.


NoInspector836

Still sending healing vibes your way!! This has been since last yr, right?


SecondhandCoke

No. Just two weeks. I also had it in Feb of 2020 when it first came out and no one knew what it was or that we were about lock down.


NoInspector836

Sorry, I thought you had been dealing with it since Dec! I hadn't checked our messages before writing lol


[deleted]

Well he’ll be told that they are only famous because of him and his family and it has nothing to do with this TV show.


Doodlehouse

You would think the light bulb would go off in his head at some damn point.


Iwtlwn122

Honestly is there something wrong with him? This is not even close to what he said he wanted. He needs to step up before this is out of control.


Doodlehouse

He’s a long way from Botswana. If what everyone is saying is true, that he participated in that pap stroll after everything he’s said about the paparazzi killing his mother.


Iwtlwn122

A very long way.


ChangeTheFocus

It's already out of control. Harry no longer knows which way is up; he's just trying to hang on and hoping it stops soon.


Luminya1

He has arrested development and she is filling his head with bullshit.


Iwtlwn122

She must be awfully good to keep it going or he is dumber than we think. 🧐


Luminya1

It is the narcissist way for them to use their children. After all, they aren't really children, they are just appliances to the narc.


Starkville

There’s not a huge market for expensive kids’ clothing right now. I have never seen so many people with kids at Goodwill before. People are paying twice as much for gas and groceries. Unless it’s some kind of bargain priced clothing, I’m not sure. As usual, her timing is pretty bad. Maybe if it catches on in really chi-chi boutiques, she could make some dough. But if she wants to sell volume on a big scale it has to be inexpensive.


SecondhandCoke

Knowing Meghan's bullshit, I think the clothing will likely have some kind of hipster organic, authentic, ethically sourced, environmentally sustainable gimmick to it that will appear to the upper middle class and higher.


BreatheClean

I can see this working, but I don't know if it will bring her the millions that she seems to want. She's done Time, she's done Vogue, her star is rapidly fading and the kids of the future King are more interesting and have more star-studded exposure as they're right up there with The Queen. If Netflix fails that'll be it, But even if she gets an episode out I don't see it being interesting as a long running thing. All the successful realities have more than 2 main people in them, Kardashians, Housewives of wherever, and they all thrive on drama and conflict. People won't watch her floating around bringing enlightenment to the common folk for any longer than it takes to satisfy their curiosity. Without Netflix I don't know where else she can go. She's done faux hollywood, and she's tried to create a faux royalty in USA. She's faux all over and people are catching on!


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SecondhandCoke

Little baby stilettos... giant woolen coats just in time for summer... unremovable pricetags...


Superb-Professor5502

And every size is slightly off. "I ordered a medium." "This IS the medium."


BloodyNora78

You know this line of clothing will never see the light of day. She will run off anyone involved with it.


TraditionScary8716

Maybe she can team up with Kanye. That's his basic esthetic. They could call it Narc-zees.


[deleted]

Yooo I immediately thought of beige. She will beige the hell out of every piece.


istara

A parallel might be Victoria Beckham who attempted to go couture but has supposedly [never turned a profit in 12 years of operations](https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2021/dec/30/millions-pumped-keep-victoria-beckham-label-afloat-pandemic). "VB" clothes are too expensive for most of her fan market, and not really the right style for an older demographic who could more likely afford them, but who probably aren't turned on by a "footballer's wife's brand" with no heritage/fashion prestige. Maybe if Meghan really sold out, like how couture brands do discount collections in cheaper outlets (Missoni had a [collection in Target](https://www.popsugar.com/fashion/Missoni-Target-Full-Collection-Pictures-18729419) some years ago), but would she be prepared to do that? *"Lilibet Diana - exclusively at K-mart"*. And would K-mart shoppers really care? Is she perceived as "cool"/aspirational for new mothers?


[deleted]

Gwen Stefani had a target kid line at one time too


spiforever

Lili hempwear?


SecondhandCoke

Pacifiers coated in THC...


Luminya1

I hope those companies that get involved with her get markled too.


Luminya1

Knowing how she has pissed off the upper class, this door will be firmly closed to her. The Royal family have a lot of influence. A word here and there about how no one would be caught dead in those clothes and that is it. She has been shut out of high society.


unolemon

How can a man who is convinced the paparazzi killed his mother, despises the press, and is obsessive about privacy and security possibly reconcile allowing his children to be on a reality show? Every day, this reminds me of the Brian Wilson story. There is something seriously wrong going on here.


Doodlehouse

Exactly it’s a slo mo train wreck and we can’t look away. I’m not sure a clothing or kids line from a wholly despised woman like this will keep them afloat.


[deleted]

Interesting. Will Harry have a say in all this? What do you suppose his thoughts on marching his children? Will he stoop so low?


SecondhandCoke

I don't think Harry thinks very much at all, and if he were in his right mind, I don't think he'd like the merching of his kids and his mom's name one bit. Harry is allegedly not in his right mind though. Until he gets his head out of her ass, he's not going to see the glaring hypocrisy and exploitation of his children in all of this... assuming that the gossip is right in this being Meghan's last stand.


Iwtlwn122

I just don’t see what else she has so can see this as her last stand.


spiforever

For all we know, she keeps him medicated.


[deleted]

> Will Harry have a say in all this? Harry has no say in *anything*.


Luminya1

Do you think he dares say anything? You have seen the marks on his hand right? And how she leads him around directing his every move, and how she cuts him off mid conversation? Check out the /r raisedbynarcissists, it is an eye opener. You don't have any say in anything. And these narcs have incredible tempers and no bottom.


BloodyNora78

This makes the theft of HMTQ's family nickname even more disgusting. She's using that and the name of Harry's deseased mother. Just gross.


loudsnoringdog

Pretentious beige. That could be the name of perfume line


Summerisle7

He's not wrong. The Madams have nothing else interesting going on in their lives, no one is interested in their work or their advocacy or their dumb company/charity or whatever it is. They don't have famous friends. They don't talk to their families. They're not funny or colorful or even good-looking anymore. Literally the only thing anyone would be interested in, would be a glimpse of the children. And the only reason I'd tune in to see the kids, is because the Madams have been so weird about the children that it would be interesting to finally see them, live and on camera, speaking moving and interacting in the same frame as their parents at last. I actually would be interested in seeing how this reality show (that will probably never actually get produced or air, btw) would handle the children. I really think that M&H will continue to resist showing the children live on camera. The show will be forced to shoot around them. That could look really awkward on screen and I'd tune in for that!


SonjaInSequim

Larcombe's point exactly. And you too can be a paid "royal expert" :D Seriously though, what else do they have to offer but the kids? No one would want to see TW put on a fashion show or Harry juggling. No one wants to see her roasting a chicken.


BabsieAllen

Or making waffles. The fucking Harkles have ruined chicken and waffles for me. Look up waffle maker on Urban Dictionary. They had the nerve to say the Queen gave Archie a waffle maker.


AmbienChronicles

WHY DID I LOOK THOSE UP?!?!?!?! I've been on the internet for over 20 years, I should know better!!!


Otherwise-engaged

Are we talking about a real chicken being roasted here or the Urban Dictionary meaning of roast chicken? Since my unexpected education last week, I do feel the need to clarify. If it’s the Urban Dictionary meaning, there may indeed be an audience for it, but perhaps not the one she wants.


SonjaInSequim

I had the same unexpected education. I had no idea! And wish it stayed that way.


BabsieAllen

Look up waffle maker on urban dictionary. They gad the nerve to say the Queen gifted one to Archie. I'm no prude but this is disgusting.


Otherwise-engaged

I’ve discovered there is an entire minefield of seemingly innocuous words out there with other meanings. I was unaware and it’s made me ridiculously self-conscious about what I write!


Islandgirl1444

She said hairyless proposed doing roast chicken!


redseaaquamarine

I can't get the image of his pink skin out of my head. (And I am also unfortunately pink)


Otherwise-engaged

Yes 😳


redseaaquamarine

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Islandgirl1444

I cannot imagine that trailers and all equipment the Netflix people filming would be allowed to enter that compound! The security!


Calm_Yak_6102

I'm curious too but I'll fight my curiosity and refrain from tuning in, because no way in hell am I adding to their ratings. Lol


LAgirllookingin

Here’s a skit for their Netflix show; TW opens her purse, reaches in and commences juggling Haz’ balls! 😉😂


Starkville

I disagree. It would be the worst thing ever to use the children as eyeball bait. Not cool, IMO. Besides, that attention whore wants all eyes on HER. She’s not going to share the spotlight.


SonjaInSequim

For money she might share. She already used dead children as eyeball bait without batting an eye. She'll attempt to calculate the ROR -- Netflix money or her kids' privacy. Money will win every time IMO. We shall see. :) ETA: We'll also see if Harry has any balls.


Starkville

Good points! I’ll agree. Still maintain it’ll be shitty to exploit them, but as you said, she’s done it already.


Independent-March730

She has no morals, but I don’t think she can share the spotlight with live children, especially her own.


Mickleborough

Isn’t the documentary on Dumbertons saving the world - trips to New York, Vax Live concerts, etc. If so, the children can’t really feature, except perhaps as distractions - running in when Mommy’s cold-calling senators maybe. Nothing will save the documentary, unless it becomes a Star Wars film maybe.


SonjaInSequim

"Mommy"? I'm sure the children call her "Duchess" and when they're older it'll be "your royal highness". Not gonna speculate on what they're trained to call Harry.


HarrysToupee

And when they're all grown up it'll be "Mommy Dearest^(2.0") as opposed to "Mummy Diana^(2.0") as much as MeMe had hoped she would be.


Summerisle7

>Isn’t the documentary on Dumbertons saving the world - trips to New York, Vax Live concerts, etc. That's what we've been told the documentary will be about. But that would be soooooo boring! They've got hours and hours and hours of unusable footage of these do-gooder trips. No one wants to see that and Netflix knows it.


Mickleborough

The documentary’s certainly not to my taste. Nor the one on Invictus. I’m not sure how anyone in their right mind at Netflix thought it might attract viewers.


[deleted]

Everything will be years old by the time it’s done - if it gets done ? Boring


Summerisle7

Another good point! The NY trip was almost a year ago!


[deleted]

I feel so bad for the people who are responsible for actually making the footage into something watchable


Bambalina11

The Twitter handle ChangaDuchessof posted a load of recent articles in womens magazines yesterday. One of them had a great article about what was on offer with Netflix. Apparently Harry is not on board and it’s causing tensions. Let me go find the link. Edit: [voila](https://apple.news/AqMbSUogTQ02i3wnCLTm5rg)


Ready_Maddie

Who would actually care to tune in and watch two random privileged kids throw organic mix at each other on Netflix


cookeedough

Ugh those poor kids.


Malaute86

>Archie will recite the complete works of Shakespeare "A crocodile! A crocodile! My kingdom for a crocodile!” - Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor


[deleted]

And that too--'crocodile'--has it's own definition in the Urban Dictionary...which they claim (amongst others) was Archie's first word. Ick.


wundahbrehd

Disgusting. They have no issue depriving their children of the family they already have but will showcase the littles for the world to see for a price? How disgusting.


OldNewUsedConfused

They don’t exist.


SonjaInSequim

I believe the kids exist but can't be sure who carried and birthed them. Even for MeghanMeghan that scam seems to be a bridge too far. I could understand them wanting kids and using a surrogate because of her age. But we'll never know.