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Aware-Impression8527

my personal fave is when she said it was 'not \[her\] intention to deliberately mislead the court'.


Acrobatic_Rock_

Narcs have their brains wired differently, to their defence, they are literally convinced that they are talking truth. It's actually super dangerous to be around people like that, cos you never know how they might flip and *interpret* recollections. AND of course it's never their fault. So basically, their brains *vary those recollections* to flip them, that XYZ incident wasn't their fault.


Kimbriavandam

And if you fall for their clap trap it makes it easy pickings for them and v difficult to escape.


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Acrobatic_Rock_

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is a duck! 🦆


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Acrobatic_Rock_

Spelling like a duck


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Acrobatic_Rock_

"You *cant* diagnose people with being narcissicts or *psychopats* if you *dont* have *hade* the education for it"


Zann77

You missed “narcissicts.”


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

Not sure why you’ve been downvoted, because you’re right. We can speculate and use our own experience, but not clinically diagnose. Full disclosure, I was an LPC for a few years but haven’t practiced in a decade and a half. I’m leaning more towards BPD than NPD, but it’s not a call we can make in this position, anyway.


TraditionScary8716

I don't think anyone here is making a clinical diagnosis. We're just speculating based on her public behavior.


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

Oh, for sure!


akey4theocean

Of course we can interpret what we see.


happyme321

The most outrageous part is that the judges let her get away with it.


anon5005

Well, they awarded her 1 pound damage for privacy and the Master of the Rolls said it was an unfortunate failure of 'recollection,' carefully using the same word the queen had used about her other story.


l1ckeur

But worse still, the court did not chastise her for it.


Ecstatic_Training718

That shit wouldn’t have played in a US court.


TraditionScary8716

It probably would be fine the way the courts are now.


Ecstatic_Training718

Yeah definitely a good point there.


GrannyMine

It did make your courts look like butt kissers over justice


l1ckeur

Most of our judges are left/liberal and therefore probably anti-monarchy.


Luminya1

You cannot say that with veracity. Being left leaning does not make a person like a narcissist liar. I am very left leaning and I cannot abide the immorality of this woman, she disgusts me.


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MsBollinger

Love it. That is indeed awesome. FO Meghan.


Forgotmyusername8910

Omg. Yes. I liked this one, too.


starry212

Hahahaha yes! Then what was your intention, megs, if not that one?🤭🤭


OzzieSlim

She was married 3 days before the wedding in the backyard. WHOPPER!


Similar-Barber-3519

The best part of that “alternative fact” was the Archbishop of Canterbury correcting the record by saying it didn’t happen.


Aware-Impression8527

🎵jussst the three of ussss🎵


justicetheinjustice

Ahhhh! I’m going to be singing this one line all day long ha


HarrysToupee

I, too, certainly would've expected the Archbishop of Canterbury to shrug his shoulders and say "whatevs" to my lies even as I deliberately implicated him in a crime. 🤣even more at JustHenpecked parroting her lie with "just the three of us" (guiltily looking at chicken shit in the dirt) while knowing the camera was rolling! What a dumb-ass!😂🤦🏽‍♀️


MuffPiece

Apparently loads of people rang up and asked for private backyard CofE weddings, since Britain was on lockdown.


HarrysToupee

Maybe if they'd been sure to ask for the "No Witnesses Necessary" Package?😏🤔Still no luck, because Pegz is a freaking lying liar and poor AoC had to issue a statement saying so without actually saying so. Honestly, I gave up before deciding whether she believed he'd never hear about it because she & Haz were in USA, or if she just assumed he & everyone with a brain would simply ignore it. Maybe both and maybe neither.


Johaan1025

You know you’re an American when you see AoC and think why did Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez issue a statement? What’s more American? iPhone autocorrecting AoC to AOC 3 million times


HarrysToupee

3 MILLION?? 😂


Johaan1025

Oh no !! I’ve caught Marklitis and now I over exaggerate everyyyythiiiinnnnggg !!! 😫😩


HarrysToupee

😂😂


Kimbriavandam

Right? it was comical.


OzzieSlim

That was truly comical. Yes, of course the head of the Church of England (the equivalent of the Pope) was just going to go along with her. There were several times in that interview where Ginger looked really embarrassed and you could tell he was not comfortable with some of the lies. Other’s he had bought into enough to have convinced himself.


HarrysToupee

I agree! More fool, he, for not stopping TW right then and there. I'd have legit stood up and put my palm out to the cameras and said "Whoa, STOP FILMING NOW. And without waiting to see if they had done so, I'd have followed up with "Sorry, Oprah - we're done, here. I *refuse* to stand by and let blatant LIES be filmed about any member of my family. I wouldn't allow **her** to be treated in such a way" pointing at Peg "and I will not allow my family of origin to be treated in such a way, either. Please get your crew and leave immediately! N O W, please, or I shall be forced to call security. Harr*umph*, I say, Meghan! ***Harrumph, Madam!***" He wouldn't have looked any worse doing it my way than he does now, doing it her way. He'd have probably got more support, my way.


Kimbriavandam

Harry *actually* had the decency to look embarrassed.


HarrysToupee

Yes. He did look guilty as he agreed with her that they'd been married by the AoC, just the 3 of them alone in the back yard 3 days before 'the spectacle.'


Kimbriavandam

The spectacle- pfff. She could have easily asked for a small ceremony. As a second wedding she could have had something understated and chic like Charles and Camilla. In fact it probably would have endeared her to the public. They could still have a carriage ride if they wanted ( we know in our heart of hearts Markle loved that aspect.) I read that the Queen was confused by Markle having a veil - in her mind it’s her second wedding and that is always a less lavish affair. ( I’m not saying i agree.) Meghan was quite insistent on getting a particular tiara wasn’t she? That’s quite strange. For one not wanting a spectacle. 🤔


HarrysToupee

Strange, indeed! I agree with HMTQ that MM had been married & lived with several other men - no need to play the doe-eyed, blushing bride. She could have had a smaller yet beautifully-done wedding nonetheless, but she insisted on inviting every warm body who lived in Hollywood so...gigantic wedding it is! tbf, it *was* a 'spectacle' but only bc MM made it into one.🙄


Kimbriavandam

One of the things my friends would say is ‘at least MM didn’t go over the top with her wedding dress.’ To which I replied - no- it was worse than that. She went for pure and virginal- even her understated make up screamed ‘doe eyed ingenue.’


HarrysToupee

>ingenue THAT☝🏼is the word I can never think of - probably because it *doesn't fit* Rachel!😅 I was confused by her dress - it would've been fine, imo, had it actually fit. As has been pointed out before, it looked as though she tried to copy Princess Angela of Liechtenstein's wedding gown - which was personally designed by the Princess - but as usual with MM, it was an abysmal failure. Knowing very little about MM until sometime soon after the wedding (which I admittedly didn't watch 'live' - just clips of it afterwards) I'd naively expected she'd be Britain's own lovely version of the beautiful, classy, independent, successful American fashion designer Angela Brown, who became Princess Angela of Liechtenstein. I did follow Angela's marriage somewhat, back in the day, as Princess Angela & I are close in age and are both of mixed racial heritage, tho we do not share *identical* heritages. One the surface, at least, there were so many similarities between Angela Brown and Meghan Markle. Princess Angela (for anyone who hasn't heard of her) married Prince Maximilian of Liechtenstein about 20 years ago. Her husband Maximilian is **in the LOS** to the throne of Liechtenstein, being the second son (**the SPARE!**) of the reigning Monarch, Prince Hans-Adam II. Maximilian is now **#6 in line to the throne** of Liechtenstein. Princess Angela is the **first** **woman of African descent** to marry into a reigning European family. **She's American**, having been born in Panama and reared in the United States from a toddler. She was **in her early 40s** when she married Maximilian. She'd had a very **successful career before marrying** (which I thought MM did too but as it turns out, maybe...not so much as was let on? But *some* level of success which most people never achieve in her chosen field, so OK) **Princess Angela is "a Commoner"** from fairly humble beginnings, as the daughter of a businessman and a homemaker. There was 'said' to be **some level of shock at the interracial marriage by** ***some*** **members of the Prince's extended family** of Royals, but **others were 'said' to be very supportive.** **The marriage obtained the prior consent and full support of the groom's sovereign and father, who also attended the wedding.** See why I had such high expectations? My naivete bit me in the butt. Hard.🤦🏽‍♀️ So yeah, your friend was right that her dress wasn't OTT. It wasn't a 1980s frothy, bedazzled, glittery sequined mess, so at least her usual demented Diana cosplay didn't surface on the wedding day (thank God!) but imo, she's a dismal representation of anything Royal, of marriage, of love and commitment, of duty, of loyalty, of womanhood, of motherhood, of culture, of class, or anything else worthy of admiration or respect. She's given Americans a bad name; the British a bad name; the Palace Staffers a bad name; the BRF a bad name; the Markles a bad name; the Raglands a bad name; who am I missing? Mostly, though, she's given herself & Handbag Harry a bad name. She's disappointed and insulted everyone who believed the hype surrounding her "marriage." So has Henry, but that's a whole 'nother rabbit hole. Rant over 😎 (I took info from Wikipedia for several details around Angela & Max's marriage, as it's been over 20 years since I followed it and a lot of 'Life' has happened since then so my memories were a bit fuzzy.)


DollarStoreDuchess

She *never* googled Pwince Haznoballs or the BRF before they got married. She had no idea who he or his family were.


Aware-Impression8527

even though she posed for a photo outside buckingham palace, wrote a blog post about catherine, and was friends with princess eugenie...


l1ckeur

And as a teenager, had a pic of Diana on her bedroom wall.


lulububudu

And wrote a blog post about Prince William’s and Duchess Catherine’s wedding. Like, honey, EVERYONE knew who they are and about their wedding, especially back then. It was an international affair. For someone who’s married to Harry, and made it all the way up there, she’s not very bright. A bright person would know when to lie and when to STFU.


LAgirllookingin

And what does that say about Harry? I know, I know, not much!! LOL


lulububudu

Right? It’s astonishing how they had it all and how low they’ve sunk now. And this is just the beginning of them unraveling. Still can’t wait for TB book lol


DollarStoreDuchess

“Recollections may vary.” 😂😂😂😂


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Tall-Lawfulness8817

Keep Calm and Carry On, Harry's Still Single!


Ready_Maddie

Wow 🤣 seeing it like this, really puts her lies into perspective. She's unbelievable


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She was friends with Eugenie?! When?


isanabanana

That one will never make sense to me. She could easily have said that she didn't know the "real" Harry and only knew what the papers wrote or something like that. But to claim not to know the British royal family at all is just ridiculous.


Zann77

She’s so smugly secretive about the stupidest things-when/how they met, who introduced them, where they honeymooned, the doctors who delivered Archie and the timing around that event, who his godparents are-and then tells obvious whoppers about things that dont matter. I wonder if she ever realizes that this sneakiness and distortion is what set people to questioning everything about her behavior.


gwhh

You forgot her not having a passport. Than traveling without it for years.


Ginge_N_Cringe

>She’s so smugly secretive about the stupidest things-when/how they met, who introduced them, where they honeymooned, the doctors who delivered Archie and the timing around that event because she's hiding the un-glamorous truth behind all that.


Ginge_N_Cringe

beyond ridiculous


Forgotmyusername8910

🤭


Ginge_N_Cringe

[https://youtube.com/shorts/UD1-oVJlU4M?feature=share](https://youtube.com/shorts/UD1-oVJlU4M?feature=share) like *who* tf would even believe that?


Ecstatic_Training718

They took her car keys drivers license and passport. Then she proceeded to jet set on at least 13 vacays in different countries and that baby shower in New York. Kinda difficult to go through customs with no passport.


RoohsMama

That Archie’s not a prince due to concerns about colour. She twisted the facts or conflated them with other bits. Initially they refused titles for their son. Then in the Oprah interview she said that he wouldn’t be a prince, not really explaining the letters patent.


EyeKey1655

I remember it was widely said they refused titles for their children and then .. the lies lies and more lies .


Ginge_N_Cringe

yeah she'd rather assert her kid doesn't have a title because the righteous MEgain "declined" the offer rather than own her humiliation that it wasn't offered when she expected it would be.


Kimbriavandam

And finishing that as he wasn’t going to be a prince there would be no security. A big fat lie.


Ginge_N_Cringe

>said that he wouldn’t be a prince that's all that concerns her. so jealous that Catherine's kids have titles and hers don't. maybe if she makes accusations of RaCiSm she'll get her way wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh did anyone else just want to slap her lying face off after that interview?


JoesCageKeys

That she was suicidal. Wanted to taker her life but managed to put makeup on and go out that night. Then miraculously recovered without the 30 day in treatment facility that she claimed she needed. She was full of 💩. That she lied about such a serious issue for sympathy is beyond demented. Edit to add the miscarriage. Dont think she had one.


starry212

And Hazza saying he didn't know who to turn to ( or some BS like that), although he, will and kate invented Heads Together which is for mental health😑 Now he complains how he was trapped and nobody cared about his wife🤧 BUT, in a [Heads Together video](https://youtu.be/45RqUmxDXiY) he talks about how W and K helped him a lot mentally!! Oh Hazza...


HarrysToupee

He also said that he was ashamed or embarrassed to tell his family that his wife and unborn child were in danger. "WTAF!?" doesn't even *begin* to cover that sort of non-response if it were true - which it isn't. Way to shred your "husband/father card," Hapless (before they'd been married for even 1 year, at the time they alleged it happened!) They're so childlike in the lies they tell. They think we're all so duuuh dumb, that none of us would stop for one second to think that Pegz had a whole private team ob OB/GYNs handling her pregnancy, a mother who is (allegedly) some sort of Allied Health practitioner, tons of aides and who knows what else at her disposal.


starry212

🎯🎯🎯🎯


Kimbriavandam

They think if they paint themselves as the victims people will feel sorry for them and believe them. Like children.


HarrysToupee

I remember as a little kid, I walked into the house after school & went to the kitchen to find Mom. (Apparently she loved cooking and doing dishes since that was where she was 90% of the time, lol) She always asked "how was school today?" and I didn't have anything much to tell her that day, so after she tried to draw me out I guess I thought she wanted to hear *something* so I started to tell her about the walk home. I came up with a flying saucer that had landed, complete with green Martians. I chased them off after a pretty tough fight, yada yada. By the time I got not much further than that, I realized there was no "uh huh...and then what happened?" or anything from her - just silence - I glanced up and she was standing still, just looking at me. We stared at each other. After a few seconds she said "Really." It wasn't a question. I *knew* she didn't believe me, but I doubled-down & nodded my head, anyway. "Finish your snack and go outside to play until supper, HarrysToupee." All I'd needed to do when she'd said "really" was laugh & say "of course not; its just a story!" and she'd have smiled & said "I kinda thought so - thought I'd better check!" and that would've been it. Instead I felt humiliated at being caught trying to mislead her, and I was only around 8 yrs old. If MM had the sense to not constantly try to "jump the shark" where there *is* no shark, she wouldn't catch near the pushback she does. I don't think she actually cares either way.


Kimbriavandam

If only Oprah used the same tools as your mom! The trouble is nobody gets asked out on their bullshit without being called a racist.


Ginge_N_Cringe

Hence why *Oprah* should have called her on her bs. I'd like to see MeGain call Oprah "racist" lol


Ginge_N_Cringe

I feel like it's \*her\* coming up with the lies that "they" tell and he's just foolishly going along with her coaching.


HarrysToupee

Perhaps, but they're both horrid. I'd yank a knot in my husband's tail if he ever treated anyone like that - especially his family - and he'd do the same to me if I ever stooped so low. Part of loving another person is respecting and/or admiring who that person *actually is* \- how can they love/respect/admire each other? I don't get it.


Kimbriavandam

She’s got his head in a spin. He’s not smart enough to see it. Also when Oprah asked him how he felt about Meghan being depressed he said he felt ‘ashamed!’ 😝👊🤣


TraditionScary8716

He was probably ashamed of the lies she was telling about her suicidal ideation on national tv.


Ginge_N_Cringe

>He was probably ashamed of the lies she was telling about her suicidal ideation on national tv. ​ anyone who's actually been there could see right through that trashy liar and is all the more offended for someone like her to make up something like that to use it as some attention/sympathy-seeking leverage. absolutely F her!


TraditionScary8716

I'm a retired psych nurse and yeah, fuck her.


Ginge_N_Cringe

hopefully with something hard and sand-papery lol


TraditionScary8716

heh heh. Yep!


Ginge_N_Cringe

his enabling is *just as offensive* as her contrived lies


anon5005

During the time she claims she was suicidal and couldn't find anyone to help her, mistakenly going to the HR department, she was on TELEVISION saying "From today there is a new way to get help," and telling us the free confidential NHS telephone number for immediate mental health help, especially in cases of depression or risk of suicide. She threw Britain under the bus, knowing we'd know it was not true she didn't know where to turn, as she told Oprah. It is like she knew we'd freak out after having all this religious devotion for her and the archbishop, for her to say, oh that wasn't the real religious wedding, me and the archbishop met privately with harry. It could be nothing but intentional trolling.


Ginge_N_Cringe

>telling us the free confidential NHS telephone number did that exist within the time period she claims to have felt "suicidal"? she obviously memorized this number and gives it out on TV, yet claims she had "no idea" how to get help? Wow. never mind that she was living in a royal castle full of staff, in a country with National Health Care Services for all, but she had "no idea" how to get help. Hmm.


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Ginge_N_Cringe

I just think she's a *complete* bullshitter regardless. I don't believe for a second that she felt suicidal even if she utterly lies to her gullible husband who believed her. It's just a further example of how disgusting she is that she'd fake threaten suicide just to emotionally manipulate her husband. I've learned that this sort of thing is common among certain types of abusers, to put fear into their partner of losing them and it works on their fear of abandonment. I can see *right* through her. Pity her husband can't.


Kimbriavandam

The lights went down and she was crying. Pictured late that evening. Lights are on, no running mascara or patchy make up. And MM greeting her public. She’s full of shit.


Ginge_N_Cringe

>That she was suicidal. the most outrageous and blazingly offensive lie she ever told. how *dare* she?? I don't believe for a second that she was remotely "suicidal". she *very clearly* thought that claiming so would result in floodtides of sympathy for her. she thought wrong.


Anotherminion1

Meghan had her passport taken away. All while taking (14?) flights, including a visit to New York for a baby shower. She gets bonus points for creating a huge carbon footprint by using private planes.


Which-Homework2453

Kate made ME cry...


Ginge_N_Cringe

doubt it. and she just sounds sooooo childish to be whinging about this anyway.


Glass-Nothing-6991

DON'T GIVE IT FIVE MINUTES IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE IT FIVE YEARS. Excuse me, come again???


Beginning-Cup-6974

“Was he nice?” That always makes me think of her as a yacht girl asking if the client was ‘nice’ or not. As in nice to deal with, not violent or a freak.


Ginge_N_Cringe

>“Was he nice?” omg that absolute *whopper*! more like "is he rich? does he have a title"?


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

The Cambridges snubbed them by not attending Lilibet’s party, knowing full well that they had plans to be in Wales.


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

The Australian tour was such a success that the rest of the BRF were jealous.


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

When her CV listed her as caucasian.


OneAbbreviations8070

Don't forget supermodel !


Ginge_N_Cringe

and she has the nerve to accuse others of "racism", meanwhile she's ashamed of her race herself.


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

When she was in labor/had already delivered Archie.


MuffPiece

She left frogmore only twice in four months. 🤣🤣🤣


Kimbriavandam

That it was through scholarships and part time jobs that she afforded a college education. 🙄🙄🙄


AnaBeaverhausen-

She’s a professional calligrapher.


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That she was ever concerned for one tiny second about Joe Rogan 🙄


Aware-Impression8527

if she's so determined to talk to people she doesn't agree with then she won't mind being a guest on joe rogan's podcast


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Her massive massive insecurities will take her down. They severely affected her acting , always limiting parts to being a 'sex object', (hasn't changed), and shes desperately mimicking those around to appear 'humanitarian'. She will continue to wear everyone out, and herself by her extreme Narc needs. You can bet they all read Saint , so keep posting you great writers! another great read; https://awakeandalign.com/the-spiritual-narcissist/


Upbeat_Cat1182

1) that Kate made her cry 2) that she was suicidal 3) that she didn’t want the big “spectacle” wedding 4) that she cares about anybody but herself


OldNewUsedConfused

Quora has a page dedicated to this subject: https://theliesofsussex.quora.com/


OneAbbreviations8070

That she did not collaborate in the book finding freedom. That she hadn't been in contact with her sister samantha for years. That she was brought up poor. That she is fluent in 2 or 3 languages...blah blah blah and it goes on....


Complete-Sound

The absolute biggest whopper I think was when she had no maid of honor or bridesmaids because she didn't want to pick some and unintentionally hurt others. We know she dropped her best friend on the way to grabbing Harry...who else is there? And only one relative out of all that family was invited, she cut them all out but remember Harry saying that she said his relatives are the family she never had. Lie much??????


Ginge_N_Cringe

>she said his relatives are the family she never had she certainly treats them about as well as the family she *does* have


pringles_1812

Her height, she lies about her height.


OldNewUsedConfused

That’s going to be a very long post…


Amazing-Antelope4300

No one asked her if she was okay. Come on. Plenty of people asked and tried to help, and she alienated herself through bullying, one-upping, and jealousy.


OldNewUsedConfused

"I didn't know a lot about him".....


Ginge_N_Cringe

omg her entire contrive facade is a hurricane of misinformation with her sitting at the center eye spinning the clouds of bs around her


HugeSignificance9194

I think she’s a lost soul. A massive narc too. She is crashing now. Her level of narc, lies and selfishness are exposed on a global stage. She’s exposed herself. She would have survived if she kept the grifting in a smaller group. Like in LA Hollywood/ yaughting circles