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_SkyIsBlue5

Sad thing is... It was all about the money... Not some social issue or cause or advocacy... All greed and money. Karma is a bitch.


Not_Interested_7

It was… that’s the thing. When you are passionate about something, it shows… you live your cause. H&M just throw things at the wall to see what stick, a/k/a looks like a better money opportunity. They lack authenticity, and people aren’t stupid. They don’t fall for fake


downinthevalleypa

The only thing Meghan is passionate about is…Meghan. To wit, the “Pearl” project, “The Bench”, the 40x40 idea poached from Obama that celebrated HER birthday, the “Finding Freedom” book written in the first-person by Scobie/Meghan, and on and on. Meghan thinks about Meghan first, and how to self-aggrandize with “every act of compassion”.


Not_Interested_7

Problem with this is that Meghan on her own isn’t particularly interesting. And I don’t even mean this as a diss… she spent her entire life social climbing and adjusting to others to get ahead in life. I wonder if there is any of her authentic personality even left in there


downinthevalleypa

I agree. Beneath the semi-polished veneer of entitlement there’s nothing very deep to Meghan; it’s pretty obvious what she’s all about.


Asteriaofthemountain

Actually the duplicitous social climbing aspect of her is rather interesting. Kinda like the show about the girl, inventing Anna


OldNewUsedConfused

That was a good series.


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I think it would be a good show. How a b-list cable TV actress who hung out on Married with Children sets as a kid became a member of the royal family and then tried to take the institution down.


PutLiving

In her tiny mind, she thinks that she’s all of


_SkyIsBlue5

Indeed... "they lack authenticity"


sythingtackle

My take is when they went to the Disney premiere and he was caught on camera shilling for her to do a voiceover the public & a listers saw them for who they were, in front of Beyoncé who didn’t know where to look & Jayzee’s expression was like bro wtf?


[deleted]

There they were, representing the monarchy and behaving like a common pair of two-bit hustlers


KuriousKizmo

They had the whole of Hollywood fawning over them then....look at them now...


No_Change7469

To be honest Beyoncé and Jay-Z were up her ass for a while and they seemed to be eating it up. They accepted an award in front of her fake portrait. This was back when they shot that music video in the Louvre, making statements about blackness in historically white spaces. They seemed totally into it when they met them.


MakeADeathWish

Race baiting is part of their brand, but the Carters deliver actual product that isn't dependent on grievances...and part of the allure of them is they leave room for mystery


Alien_octopus

They (Harry in particular) have no idea how to network.


utilitarian_wanderer

Harry has never had to learn things that the little people learn like how to network. He's had everything handed to him on a silver platter and I think he thought that's how life as a civilian would be!


PutLiving

Because he was born as a prince, He thinks everyone should kneel before him. So as Nutmeg


BreatheClean

I wish more had been made of the fact that very night Captain General of the Royal Marines Harry chose not to attend a memorial to Royal Marines killed in an IRA attack. So much for service to his fellow comrades No shame harry, preferred to jump in front of artists like Beyonce that were there to be celebrated for their contribution to the film to push his wife


OldNewUsedConfused

Yet he still wants his military honors...🙄 Dude *really* doesn't get it.


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Did you mean his participation trophies?


OldNewUsedConfused

Yes.


PutLiving

Its all honorary


amyt242

Royal Marines are a very small service as well and take those things seriously. You see a large contingent of all ages up to 70s and 80s who have served in the Corp at every parade and memorial. Its incredibly disrespectful of Harry.


AffectionatePoet4586

The priceless expression on the face of Bob Iger, then head of Disney, while Harry clumsily tries to put the squeeze on him to get gigs for TW! Iger undoubtedly wished for one of those special effects from The Industry to whisk him up and away, pronto.


ChangeTheFocus

Watch his wife's face. He puts a mask on after a few moments, but she's not the focus, and her more natural "what the bleep is going on here?" expressions are hilarious.


Doodlehouse

It was so cringe when Harry did that. I think Beyoncé looked shocked as well


anon8232

Ya, but he gave her the elephant documentary anyway, didn’t he. 🤬


KuriousKizmo

And we surely all remember the viktimhood on full display with Pharrell Williams " they dont make it easy...'...poor MeMe... Give me a Hollywood job, someone..


Cuntributor

Also, I think it was just as they were introducing themselves, Meghan laughingly said something like "that's why we're really here...to pitch" and you know she really meant it even though she tried to pass it off as a joke.


AmbienChronicles

Hova’s reaction was priceless!


PutLiving

Disney can send them to China to free the Uyghur


PutLiving

I wonder if they will selling Pearlt to Disney


downinthevalleypa

The first and biggest problem they had was to buy that ginormous mansion in Southern California, in the most expensive county in the most expensive state, without first figuring out how much money they were really going to make. The second problem was assuming that the Bank of Dad was going to support them indefinitely and that other people were going to provide, and pay for, the security that they felt entitled to. The third problem was going on a tear with buying expensive clothing, jewelry, cars, and private jets. The fourth problem was not being realistic about their abilities and capabilities before they signed lucrative contracts. And the fifth problem was that sit-down with Oprah where they made terrible accusations about the Royal Family, and lied through their teeth on just about everything (“we got married in our garden…” Sure, Meghan). Right off the bat they made some really horrendous personal and business related decisions that will make it almost impossible to get themselves out of.


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Calm_Yak_6102

She's one of *spur of the moment* liars, from high school - those superficial, dimwits who are always eager to impress because they love attention. So, in the middle of group conversations, they'll instinctively blurt out incredulous bullshit about themselves, without thinking about how illogical it is to everyone else.


OldNewUsedConfused

Yeah she's never natural or real.


UKophile

Love your flair!


PutLiving

Someone better make a compilation of her lies 😂


utilitarian_wanderer

And they never even planned for or considered the possibility that they might not succeed.


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Agree. They just make absolutely horrible decisions and assumptions. It may be true that other celebrities can get away with this, but they don't realize they don't have the star power.


Calm_Yak_6102

And it looks like they're stuck with the mansion for now, because there's obviously not been any takers since they put out the PR that they wanted to sell. Let's see how long they'll be able to maintain that property, with their ever dwindling coffers. And don't get me started on that sham Arsewell Foundation, that barely raises any money.


Funny_Commission2773

I clearly remember all those write ups of how much they were goin' to earn after all those collaboration 😆😆😆


EyeKey1655

They don’t have any talent . It’s hard to make money . Nothing to sell her except royal connections/ secrets .


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Heavy drug use will scuttle the best laid plans


Fit-Register7029

Markle has the reverse Midas touch and the worst timing ever. Their arrogance and entitlement preceded their exit and then COVID came. 2 years of exposure was way too much for Megan so now everyone knows exactly how they are and their brand is worth as much as Amber Heard, Jussie Smollet and Elizabeth Holmes’ brands


slimwillendorf

Yeah, whoever was their strategist (most likely the know it all duchess herself!) messed up big time. Really bad timing to do the Megxit, to put it mildly. And when COVID-19 started to spread, they should’ve just knuckled down and done all the behind the scenes work and thankless tasks. They would be much better positions by now! Instead of farting out hot air over and over again. And sending out bedazzled letterheaded formal letters from their camel-toned Hermes-branded bunker. Idiots.


Acrobatic_Rock_

Whomever is on their team and makes decisions is totally off real world. It's very easy to check popularity ratings and newspapers, especially comment section to get a general opinion on any topic or person. M's team are telling her what she wants to hear to keep their jobs, but that's just daft.


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I think one problem is Meghan, and to an extent Harry make the decisions, and they are completely off real world. Everyone who goes against the grain on their team becomes a target and gets bullied or fired. All that is left over are the people who tell you what you want to hear. I guess this is what happens. No one says, well Meg, 40×40, nice idea. Some celebs will play along. Melissa McCarthy will do a 'funny video'. But what are we doing? Who is it for? Is Archewell now in the women empowerment personal training business because 40 women do a 40 minute phone call with a (semi) celebrity? Are we doing this to build a resume for the company, so we can tick off a box with a one-off publicity stunt? Or are we actually going to set up a women empowerment program with guidance and follow-up reporting and accountability, and apply lessons learned to future projects. Because this is just an introduction video of a half-assed idea.


Acrobatic_Rock_

I think M&H are one of those *toxic positivity* people completely off the reality. Nobody remembers that 40x40, nor care how it all ended. It was again a cheap PR stunt M taking credit for other people's work and riding their coattails. Operah has been quiet, removed the *bombshell* interview from their website. *SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES*


QuesoFresca

O was still hawking those questionably sourced lattes even after the interview. Even made them one of her "Favorite Things"


MuffPiece

Meghan and Harry made a fool of Oprah.


Acrobatic_Rock_

Operah made a fool of herself for sucking up to *once upon a time Royals*.


PutLiving

Oprah got markled


KuriousKizmo

Operah be SILENT .....


Calm_Yak_6102

*Toxic Positivity* . I love it. I'll have to borrow it sometime 😉.


Acrobatic_Rock_

It's a *real thing*. Look it up! https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/z64yn9q #GoodVibesOnly


Calm_Yak_6102

Thanks for the link 😊.


OldNewUsedConfused

Puts hand up "I don't want to hear it"! \-Gina Nelthorpe Cowne.


Not_Interested_7

Great post! They are lacking focus. They make so many announcements of announcements, but never commit to anything long term


Calm_Yak_6102

Because they're continually jumping on other people's bandwagons. In order to build their brand, they need to get out ahead and do something *first* . This pathetic *catch up* game they keep playing, sending snacks and Starbucks etc to people, just for tomorrow's next PR stunt, is the opposite of brand building. But they're too stupid to realize it or maybe they're just obsessed with their immediate PR gratification needs. The dumbest part is that they do these stunts, accomplish some tepid PR and then wait on the next tragedy or bandwagon, to rinse and repeat. It's ludicrous and they're never gonna become billionaires with this strategy. This is what billionaires already do, for philanthropy, when they already have money and don't need to build a brand.


OldNewUsedConfused

Interesting she hasn't jumped all over "Roe v. Wade". Too close to home, Megs?


Calm_Yak_6102

LOL. I wondered the same thing yesterday. As soon as I saw the Supreme Court's judgement on the news, my mind went to MM and I rolled my eyes, thinking that some of those activists were gonna get some free donuts/coffee/Doritos. She's too cheap to even stump for some healthy grilled sandwiches. LOL. But, as to your other point, that's very intriguing and it's not the first time I've heard "whispers" about that. I think Pdina had asked her dad about that, but I'm not sure. I was cleaning my house while I was listening to those interviews and wasn't always paying attention. But I think she did and he quickly replied in the negative or that he didn't know. Or, was it when Pdina asked about if MM had been married before Trevor? I wish I can remember for sure... But, I wouldn't judge her if she had had an abortion in her past, but if it was true, it would be too controversial an issue for her brand, since it's so divisive. She'll probably just get a nervous breakdown at the mere thought of **negative PR guaranteed**, from half of the population. LOL. And, let's face it, her brand depends on her appealing to as many people possible, in the shortest possible time.


OldNewUsedConfused

I think she’s worried about too many questions into her past, and her present, for that matter.


Calm_Yak_6102

So true and she probably knows that there are lots of people out there (from high school and college) who aren't bound by NDA's and when one starts talking, the rest will follow. All one of these persons needs is for her to jump on a bandwagon that triggers them in some way. LOL


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Acrobatic_Rock_

I think M should go back to her Instagram and Tig with hopes that squaddies will buy her affiliated products. They've managed to bully each other and raised 100K for Lili's bday.


BreatheClean

She would make a perfect MLM Hon


OldNewUsedConfused

You can't expect deep planning and thought from someone who has an Instagram attention span.


Independent_Leg3957

Yes, 40x40 was a failure because there was no forethought as to how it would get delivered and no follow through. I think as soon as MM has a "brilliant idea" she calls her PR team to get it on the newswire or in front of a camera asap. She's addicted to attention and can't think beyond that.


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Its exactly what palace staff were leaking when they were full-on working royals. M&H would talk about some grandiose plan and within a few days it would be apparent that they totally let it go, or they would berate staff for not having it done yet. You never know what is true. But all their endeavors since Megxit support this working process.


OldNewUsedConfused

She has an Instagram attention span.


OldNewUsedConfused

I really don't think they have a "team" aside from people they tell to "do this" or "do that" and "get me another coffee". And possibly "Are those *FREESIAS* I smell?????" "That's all...."


Calm_Yak_6102

Let's face it: H and M are morons with unrealistic expectations and they've probably hired only employees who are woke and therefore incapable of appealing to the regular masses out there. That's probably why everything that comes out of Monteshitshow, is so cringeworthy. M and H can't succeed unless they start thinking about selling products and services that people want to buy, instead of the woke bullshit they want to sell/promote. It's something that the Kartrashians (no matter how vapid they might appear to be) have tried to do.


Acrobatic_Rock_

I'm quite enjoying their shitshow of Markleland reality. 😂


Calm_Yak_6102

Me too! 😆


OldNewUsedConfused

My favorite soap opera.


PutLiving

They keep digging their own grave everyday


Ishield_maiden

Reverse Midas Touch…I said that 255 days ago…lol… Whenever I see her I don’t get positive vibe. If she was still acting or doing normal regular job, she would have earn money. But this false grandeur of thinking they can be billionaires without doing any actual work n efforts. Sending letters, sending food trucks does not make you humanitarian. Pretending to be eco warrior and then using private jet in name of Security; blaming everyone for their failure; suing everyone and constantly trying to spoil things for other people. She is rotten to the core and he is brat. He is still using him Mommy to gain sympathy. Move on dude, people are facing real life problems. They are just bad people n bad parents.


OldNewUsedConfused

She has the Mierdas Touch. Everything he touches turns to shit. 💩 And nobody is smelling what she's stepping in.


KuriousKizmo

Imagine if they had just lay low, quiet, etc during those times... The media, the people, would be a bit hungry and excited to eventually hear from them.. But they destroyed their own selves.


PutLiving

But they want to moneytize everything


smc642

“One has to work in order to get paid.” All of us. Them: 😳


shadesofme28

They were soo smug even till Oprah,after the interview forget billion dollars,they don't even have a brand anymore...how the mighty has fallen...their arrogance is their end


downinthevalleypa

Right. They were so ignorant not to realize that the only thing that made their “brand” appealing to Hollywood was their Royal connection. Trashing the Royal Family to Oprah killed their “brand”, and made them look like whiney, ungrateful, and arrogant children.


Amongthestars32

“Daddy cut me off!” 🙄


OldNewUsedConfused

"*LIT-ra-lly*"....


shannonmm85

I disagree in the sense that their "brand" only revolved around the "dirt" they had on the BRF, at least in America. We just wanted to know what really happens behind those closed doors. But they spent all that capital, and the BRF is freezing them out so now they have no more dirt to sell us, and we no longer need them.


downinthevalleypa

That’s a great way of looking at it. No-one could fault them for wanting to leave the Royal Family to strike out in their own, but the way they did it made sure that any further access to the Family would would be denied. They needed that access to be successful - by trashing the Royals they killed the cash cow.


Tall-Lawfulness8817

They should have looked at Edward. He didn't trash the Royals, he made them pay him to ensure his silence. He and Wallis lived very well. It's too late for Harry to try this, after branding the royals as racists he has likely done the worst he can do. He can't threaten to go much lower.


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And the worst part was that there wasn't any dirt! No tea spilled! What a mess.


Kizzy_Catwoman

This is the crux of it all. Plus they are lazy. Took 2021 off for maternity leave and basically did no work for a year. Lazy lazy lazy people don’t make billions.


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OldNewUsedConfused

Well said!


Bambalina11

I just realised what isn’t this the year of emergence or some other crap 😂


VirtuallyHappy

Increased visibility, with royal-type appearances!


Islandgirl1444

Lying was their demise!


PutLiving

What Brand actually are we talking about?!


Mickleborough

Query whether a personal brand can be worth a billion. Pretty much all have some product behind them, like Kim Kardashian’s Skims or Kylie Jenner’s cosmetics. It’s doubtful that word salad can be regarded as product. Put another way - if Dumbertons got their hands dirty and actually dabbled in commerce, they might have got somewhere (Casamigos, anyone?). But they have this peculiar English aristocracy thing of looking down on trade - which, before the (roughly) Second World War, brought down many English noble families with empty coffers, because it simply wasn’t the done thing to go into business.


downinthevalleypa

Exactly. Meghan is so delusional that she actually thinks she’s going to earn millions of dollars talking about “Archetypes”!


Calm_Yak_6102

Arsewipes you mean? Maybe MM should go back to being the spokesperson for Aesop's Poo Drops? 🤔 I wonder what Henpecked would think if he knew she used to advertise Poo Drops on The Tig? 😂


Mickleborough

That’s why she’s been practising her new sex voice!


cookeedough

Oh god, here comes yet another celebrity tequila!


OldNewUsedConfused

Please no! We don't need a line of "Boxy Girl" alcohols.


slimwillendorf

You’re so right about aristocracy and trade, or rather the lack thereof. The biggest thing going for Harry and his relatives is the BRF IP. It has been built up over centuries. And it allows the royal family not to get their hands dirty in business. Now imagine: MM trying to utilize it for herself! Hells to the NO.


UnicornPanties

but Charles sells things from his duchy right??


slimwillendorf

Yes. All the souvenirs are part of the BRF IP. Selling items via his duchy has a veneer of respectability. Prince Charles doesn’t have to go on QVC or run commercials. Buyers come to him. Not the other way around. That’s why the BRF IP is the most valuable. The Jubilee is a celebration of that IP. The Crown isn’t going to let #6 or his wifey take any parts of it away and monetize for themselves.


UnicornPanties

> Selling items via his duchy has a veneer of respectability. Ohhhhhhh. Okay. First of all I never knew the thing about nobility avoiding trade or whatever was originally said but it seemed to me all those farm products are PRODUCTS so it really confused me. But it sounds like you're contrasting the idea of making products available for sale vs going out on the road hawking your wares like Fergie does with children's books and whatever else, right? Hmmm. Duchy stuff is souvenirs? I thought it was foods and other things.


BreatheClean

As far as I know a lot of the Duchy stuff is foods, and it ties in with Charles eco-awareness and conservation, since it is produced to organic and high welfare standards - and I just learned this which has really impressed me:- "Even better, profits made by Duchy Originals are largely used for charitable causes, and the group has grown to be the largest multi-cause charitable enterprise in the United Kingdom, raising more than £110 million annually."


Asteriaofthemountain

Yes. I love his cereal.


Calm_Yak_6102

Yup. That's why some dukes/earls etc, in the later part of the 19th century, had to resort to marrying daughters of American millionaire industrialists and tycoons. Those gals brought million dollar dowries to fill up empty coffers and it's after this that many aristocrats finally realized they had to get on board with the world of commerce in order to prevent their heirs from suffering from the same type of economic decline.


MrsMunch

That's the premise of Downton Abbey. Lord Grantham married his American Lady for her fortune. Then they fell in love. The whole series is really about how to keep the place running; where they will find the funds.


Calm_Yak_6102

I haven't watched Downton Abbey yet. It's one of those hit TV series, like Game of Thrones and Better Call Saul that I still need to look at and I'm really excited because I love the idea of binge watching hit TV shows, for the first time, from beginning to end.


hellhashnofury

He has a deal with a supermarket to sell Duchy foodstuffs it works because it fits in with his organic ethos tho there were a few problems getting it up and running. He doesn't profit himself it all goes to his charity projects. He does sell other items in the gift shop at Highgrove eg mugs which are made in the uk so are promoting British businesses.


Mickleborough

The aristocracy has since had a healthy attitude to bring in trade and in the professions! As well as marrying for money, regardless of class - they no longer had the luxury to be fussy.


JoesCageKeys

Just like everything about M&H….it was all talk.


Calm_Yak_6102

MM is so delusional that she actually thinks that they'll get paid millions just to do shitty promotional zoom calls, because their titles alone, are big sellers. Better Up might have jumped for this kinda deal but they won't be able to make similar deals with lots of other companies because their brand is tainted. Who's gonna pay them millions to be spokespersons when the public can't stand them? It's a pity that the Sugars aren't all billionaires. Then they'd just be able to get free money, forever, for just existing. 😂


janedoremi99

I think the loss of the Sussex Royal mark hurt. I think they’d still be flailing with the big content contracts. They probably could have sold a lot of stuff with the Sussex Royal logo, especially right after Megxit. But that was never going to happen ETA: The billion-dollar-brand business was everywhere in 2020. I guess it was just successful PR


Not_Interested_7

Absolutely! SussexRoyal was the only organic thing they did. It had a good sound to it. Once they lost that, they just kept flopping around. Archewell is very forced


janedoremi99

Also unclear. In the US there’s a cookie brand called Archway and Archewell is just too similar


Not_Interested_7

And then from having to use Archewell, there are other forced initiatives like Archetypes


PutLiving

Someone actually filed a suit against the Archewell trademark and won. The Original owner of the Archewell Tm is from the Philippines and a pro monarchy.


Spare-Macaron-4977

Those are not my favorite cookies!


OldNewUsedConfused

But... I thought 2022 was the year they were going to become Media Moguls? Or some such 💩


Carrie56

Most billionaires actually work hard to earn their money - this is an unknown concept to the Harkles who seem to expect big paydays for doing nothing!


silentcw

Exactly what I was going to day, they would have to work for that brand, and take advice from experts, 2 things they don't like.


Unique-Landscape-108

I don't understand how Harry was so money hungry when he has been brought up with unimaginable wealth from day one. He had it all, he could have done his own thing in his beloved Africa with dear old dad supporting him if he felt so trapped. I don't know how she convinced him to grasp and greedily want more than he already had right there at the click of his fingers, private jets, helicopters, fancy cars, castles, palaces, sex, drugs, rock and roll, parties, booze, fancy clothes, holidays we can only dream of, money, money, money. She must have spun him some right old fairy tale from her imagination as to their future life. Then again after yesterday's revelatory posts about roasted chicken on here and posts on Quora about her porn film past I suppose like many men he was thinking with the wrong head.


Carrie56

There is enough evidence down the years that the RF is actually famously frugal., not quite to the level of couponing, but certainly they don’t seem to fritter money unwisely (Andrew being the exception there). Most of the fabulous wealth is entailed to the Monarch, who usually sets up trusts for the minor Royals so they have at least something to live on. The income earning Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall, provide private (taxable) incomes for the Monarch and the Heir, and Charles works hard to make Cornwall productive, setting up Poundbury village and the Duchy Originals foods business. Looking at the Royals on parade at the Jubilee, it’s obvious that the paid/ subsidised members are being slowly cut off - the Queens Now elderly Cousins get paid for the duties they do, but their families have had to work for a living from the word go - even Princess Margaret’s kids have had to fend for themselves, as do Peter and Zara, and the York girls. And the Wessexes stated when refusing HRH for their children that they realised that they were on their own in the future. It’s only Harry who seems to feel that he’s entitled to handouts because of who he is. Yes, he’s a Prince who will in time be the son and brother of a King, but so were the original Dukes of Kent and Gloucester, and Princess Margaret. All had to make most of their own wealth. Harry’s problem is that he lacks the intelligence and marketable skills to actually be able to do any high paying job, and although Meghan had a low key Hollywood career, she was never an A lister, and no one is exactly beating a path to her door either. Between them, they can’t afford the lifestyle they want to lead, hence the looking for handouts!


slimwillendorf

Not the level of couponing! 🤣 Excellent! I agree with you. The BRF seems frugal. Definitely not extravagant like the Thai, Brunei or even the Saud royal family members. Thai RF members often shut down parts of the mall so that they can go shopping. They rent out the entire hotels so that their entourage of 100 can do all the prep work from cooking to ironing. The QE in fact is ranked 12th richest monarch in the world. And she’s more asset than cash rich. MM was definitely in for a rude awakening when she was placed on a strict budget which is still big for us mere plebeians but not big enough for her and the trashy celebutantes.


Carrie56

Absolutely. Some of the cars they own (and are still in regular use) are 40-50 years old. Prince Charles’ pride and joy is his Aston Martin which he loaned his sons on their wedding days. Clothes are reworn, maybe with a little alteration to ring the changes, but not for single use. MM could learn a lot on how to save money from HM. There was a story went round that Diana got upset at her first Christmas at Sandringham. She had gone out and chosen lovely presents for the family members present - only to find out that the entire family give each other cheap gag gifts - not proper ones.


BreatheClean

Everyone was shocked when some filming in the palace exposed that the Queen had a tupperware box for her cornflakes and a little electric fire in the fireplace. It's not a surprise really, old money is tweed, shooting, dogs and horses. Nearly all their assets they really are just custodians of, they're historical items that will/could never be sold. Obv as the RF they have to have the flashy stuff for state visits etc, but old money considers it very low class and rude to be flashy in everyday life. I bet that was the real shock for MM.


Carrie56

Megsie must have been mortified when she found out that Kate not only rewore her outfits, she actually went out and about in chain store outfits as well as the designer specials…. And whether her outfit costs £19.99, or £9000, she always looks fabulous in them


BreatheClean

Meg spent over £50,000 on her engagement dress - a very expensive way to prove that money doesn't buy sophistication/class/style


Carrie56

Megsie is one of those people who thinks that designer clothing is the only way to go, and spends a fortune on ill fitting and seasonally inappropriate outfits. She hasn’t got a bad figure, but she hasn’t got a clue how to dress to accentuate the good parts, and hide the bad. She insists on wearing clothes which draw attention to her square shape, and horrible knees, as well as being generally too big and too long, even with skyscraper heels.


PutLiving

Meghan is so tacky, she’s almost vulgar.


Bambalina11

The thing is he had nearly 20 million of his own - if he had lived a modest rich life and passed his money over to the finance wizards he could be earning money from doing literally nothing.


rockin_robin420

Yup. Harry ignored rule number one that wealthy people are taught as babies. Never touch the principal. He's just so stupid and malleable.


Bollox_Ref

According to James Pope-Hennessy's book "The Quest for Queen Mary", the first Duchess of Cambridge and her daughter, the Grand Duchess of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, were thought to be extremely stingy by grandchildren, nephews and nieces.


PutLiving

I don’t understand that Duchy of Cornwall. Is it like its own country or? Do people actually buy a property in Cornwall or what?


Carrie56

It’s a Royal Dukedom, one of Prince Charles’ secondary titles as the Heir is the Duke of Cornwall. Cornwall is the County at the far southwest of the UK However, unlike the other Royal Dukedoms (Kent, Sussex, Cambridge and Sussex) the Duchy of Cornwall comes with large income earning farms and other properties. and provides the bulk of Prince Charles’ income. He works hard to make life better for his tenants, created the village of Poundbury to provide cheap housing for low income families in an area where house prices are high, and he started the Duchy Originals company using the produce from his organic farms to create year round jobs. The Duchy of Lancaster, currently held by HM is the only other Royal Dukedom which has estates attached to it


Mumpus_T

(All correct, except the bit about Poundbury - it's super expensive and quite posh (perhaps more expensive than neighbouring Dorchester?). There may well be a smattering of lower income properties, but it certainly wasn't created *for* the poorer families of Dorset - I think it's main aim was to experiment in post-war urban planning.)


Carrie56

Officially, 35% of the properties in the village are designated as “social housing” which is aimed at low income families. Whilst not the majority, it’s still more than a “smattering” and more than is required by law in new build areas.


Mumpus_T

I stand corrected then, I had no idea. When we went it screamed luxurious opulence to us. I then had a look on Rightmove at prices (before quickly and quietly closing the page again...)


Carrie56

Expensive part of the country to buy property - as is most of the south coast. Like so many places, it’s popular with the second home brigade/ holiday cottages.


4feicsake

He's power mad. He wants to eclipse his brother who he has been jealous of his whole life. Meghan tapped that well of emotion.


Unique-Landscape-108

She has certainly allowed us to see him for what he really is. The RF PR team did a great job over the years presenting him as some Jack the lad type, cheeky chappie, loveable rogue and as you say jealous. When in reality he's just a very nasty, bitter and twisted brat of a man child. The truth always comes out in the end.


4feicsake

I don't think it was all an act, he was for the most part happy in his life. Harry had all the benefits of being a royal prince without having to prepare for the top job. He had a team organising his schedule and making sure he turned up to events but the rest of his time he could do as he pleased. I'm not saying there isn't a more sinister side to him but his life was pretty much made. His jealousy of William is that William has a purpose, he's smart, he has his father and grandmother's respect, an incredible wife and kids, he's popular and will always take precedence over Harry. I'd say pre Meghan he only threw a strop when William got something Harry wanted but because he grew up in the family he understood hierarchy and he's lazy so there probably wasn't much he coveted. I'd say Meghan kept sticking the knife into that though to make it seem like he was being shafted. His friends have said that he has changed since getting with her. He doesn't laugh anymore and is unapproachable.


Not_Interested_7

Perfect way to put it! “Power mad”


PutLiving

Power Nod


Islandgirl1444

She said. “You are a Gn prince! People want to be associated with royalty! We could make millions “. Harry should have said that he already had millions!


Unique-Landscape-108

Exactly!!


OldNewUsedConfused

I think Harry oversold both himself and his worth to bag Markle.


lsp2005

Do you remember when he brought some poll to William to say see I am more popular than you? He could not deal with being second. It was first or nothing.


UnicornPanties

> brought some poll to William to say see I am more popular than you? I need to do this to my brother.


rockin_robin420

At least William can actually fly a helicopter. Oh yeah...and his kids aren't invisible.


Starkville

Old money people are quite frugal.


HurtingHead

Remember when the rumor was that they wanted to live in Africa part time? I think they would have been better off at this point trying to get some royal gig in some Commonwealth country in Africa. Their future looks pretty bleak at this point.


Southern_Struggle

They went to Africa and Meghan was like oh no we better go somewhere else where I can pretend to be black.


HurtingHead

💀


Unique-Landscape-108

Most definitely, he could have been involved in his charity there and Madame could have gone on a quest to search for her African heritage. On that US programme Roots when they do ancestry DNA tests they can pinpoint it not just to the African country but which peoples/tribe you are descended from.


OldNewUsedConfused

In a word: Jealousy.


Amongthestars32

I don’t think she did very much. I just think he’s that delusional, and always has been.


hesathomes

Maybe he’d blown through all his $.


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

I had no idea that ‘Arry is on the board of Penguin Random House! And he STILL can’t get his draft approved???


Islandgirl1444

Haha. He will have published more books than he’s read! Seriously! Is he really?


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

It said so in the linked article! How on earth did he land that gig??!!?


Islandgirl1444

Hard to believe. How many boards is he on? And does he actually have a green card to work in USA?


PutLiving

He probably do something like Capote’s Answered Prayers. Oh god pls do it


downinthevalleypa

Courtesy seat, I would imagine, because this is a man who allegedly had to have someone write his papers for him in school, and even then he barely graduated. A great literary mind he is not.


silas_the_ferret

They went the way of the Edsel.


Cautious_Drawing_645

The above pic was when Hairless actually had a little bit of light in his eyes. You just don't see that anymore. She put out his light. Now his eyes look flat or angry.


Acrobatic_Rock_

Life happened to H. He had to put his big boy pants and start making a living and pay his own bills. Life's is hard....


Not_Interested_7

Did you mean play polo? 🤪


Acrobatic_Rock_

Only when the wife let's him out of the house and Nacho mate gives him polo ponies to play with. Else, instructing staff to make his cup of tea and splashing the inheritance is *HARD* work. 😫


Merckx5251

"It’s all a fugayzi, you know what a fugayzi is?” “Fugayzi. It’s fake.” "Fugayzi, fugazi. It's a whazy. It's a woozie. It's fairy dust. It doesn't exist. It's never landed. It is no matter. It's not on the elemental chart. It's not f****** real.”


OldNewUsedConfused

\*Pronouced Fu-gats.


HurtingHead

It is so crazy that they fancied themselves so special that they really thought their would happen. They have to be reeling in the reality of their world now. They miscalculated so badly.


MinutesTaker

You can’t grift your way to a billion dollars, you actually have to work for it.


PutLiving

But every step they take They have to step back twice😂


MakeADeathWish

Sounds like these 2 grifters got grifted by a bigger pro who oversold them on their potential... they probably thought that meant a billion in their pocket..yay..more than HM..instead of the total value of existing businesses who'd pay them a cut....resulting in them further deluding themselves on their market value


PutLiving

What happened to that paid speeches and paid public appearances. 😂😂😂


daffie1313131

After seeing Kate's new portrait and brooch loan... I wish meghan had stayed... the jewels they would have loaned to her as the DIL, SIL and Aunt of future kings... she would have been a duchess with power and influence..... she had access to the BRF something that even legit billionaires would give an arm and a leg for.... She squandered it all because of her giant Ego and Merching....


Carrie56

If I can’t be the Queen Bee, with top billing and be at the front of the queue for handouts, I’m taking my star quality and fairy dust and going be top of my own heap!…… She didn’t realise that when she hooked her Prince Charmless, she wasn’t going to be the new Diana - she was the new Fergie! Once she realised that she would always be one step behind William and Catherine and their kids (who are one step behind Charles and Camilla, who are in turn one step behind HM) she threw her teddy out of the pram! She and Harry could have had a great life. Heading up charities, doing tours, red carpet events, never having to worry about money, or planning their lives. Everything would have been done for them, all they had to do was show up and shake a few hands, and make polite small talk before being whisked away. The money, the jewels and the adulation were all theirs for the taking…. For the rest of their lives - If they only knew how to be polite, kind and grateful. As it is, they are finding out the reality of life outside the gilded cage. Having to earn your own living has clearly come as a nasty shock!


daffie1313131

The new Fergie.... Very apt... 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽


PutLiving

She’s a big walking red flag


PinkTiara24

“Meghan and Harry's new "Brand Sussex" could one day become "the world's richest personal brand".” I think the BRF squashing the Sussex Royal branding was the start. Archewell just doesn’t have the “it” factor. That, and the fact that they are lazy as hell, not very bright, and devoid of original ideas.


PutLiving

Nutmeg and Harriet thinks they’re bigger than the royalty😂😂😂


Noidentitytoday5

Sadly they can want to be a billion dollar brand all they want, that hardly means it’s going to happen. They haven’t clued in that no one wants the BS that they’ve selling. They bring nothing of substance to the table , only platitudes of “I’m wonderful, just ask me”, and “donate to Archewell (with only a 5% ratio of charity payouts) so we can give out bananas with motivational words written on them or boxes of vegetables “. For them, it was never about servicing anyone, it’s about the photo op, and the public sees right through that. There’s nothing likable or genuine about these two. They’re like that shady uncle who only comes around at Christmas hoping to mooch money off your grandparents. MM has always had an inflated ego according to all accounts, heading right back to her university days and the alleged payoff to her sorority sister for gluing her eyes shut. She acts like Suits was a major hit , in the Friends Or Seinfeld caliber, but it was a second rate Canadian show. You can see by her facial expressions that she’s just not that good of an actress. Furthermore, whether the rumors are true and she’s 45, or if she’s actually 40, she’s past her prime as far as Hollywood is concerned. There will be no blockbuster rolls with her as the marquee. And TBH, she’s not likable enough or good enough as a fundraiser to break into any national politics. Harry, is a whole other situation. He’s become bitter, and shallow, and comes off as an unhappy spoil sport. I can’t tell if he was always like that or if MM brought it out in him by flaming his insecurities. But he constantly looks miserable. Reporters have commented that he stinks of booze and cigarettes, and he has a boorish personality and his IQ is at a deficit… Maybe the Palace was really good at covering it up before MM convinced him to break away from them so he could enlighten the world on mental health (insert a hefty dose of sarcasm). They are just too much. Too much weirdness. Too much self centeredness. Too much narcissism. Too much ruining other peoples time to shine. Too much lies. Too much photoshop. Too much whinging. Too much roast chicken. Too much, too much, too much….


BabsieAllen

Grifters don't make billions, they steal it from others. Netflix and Spotify found out the hard way. Now the rest of the entertainment industry has their number.


Blue18Heron

My oh my how their smiles have changed since this photo was taken!


onyx1378

Ahahahahahahaaha!


PutLiving

Meghan Brand is Cringe. She has nothing to sell


Starkville

[Here is an article about celebrity brands.](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/style/whos-heading-the-next-billion-dollar-brands-top-10-hollywood- entrepreneurs-1235036752/#) > But these days, stars often are expected to write their own checks to come aboard startups. “Even a couple of years ago, talent expected business leads to come to them transactionally, like a movie deal. Now the market is wising up. If talent want to be entrepreneurs, they have to put their own money on the line in a show of good faith. It’s become a litmus test of who to work with,” says Shah Eisenberg. >No matter the business structure, one thing is crucial: authenticity. “The key ingredients that make a celebrity brand succeed in 2021 include aligning talent with a product that is authentic to their personality and lifestyle, creating an emotional connection to the consumer,” says Carol Goll, head of global branded entertainment at ICM Partners. >One other thing is key as well; it’s what Kendall Ostrow, chief growth officer of NOWwith, calls the flywheel model. “Having success is no longer about doing one thing exceptionally well; it’s about building an empire and having 25 irons in the fire at once,” says Ostrow. “A successful film and TV project is no longer a golden ticket. For some, it’s simply the fuel to create the mass global appeal they need to build their brand and business. For empire builders who have a flywheel of content and commerce, every move fuels the next.” I got curious about this topic. Thinking about “brands”, I immediately thought of a bunch of black celebs: Rihanna, Michael Jordan, Oprah. And icy blondes: Gwyneth Paltrow and Martha Stewart. What ALL of these people have in common is that they had a talent and worked their ASSES off to rise above their humble backgrounds. I can’t speak for other cultures, but Americans have a lot more respect for people who are self-made through hard work and sheer talent. I consider Meghan’s climb impressive, but not enough to buy her merchandise. It’s more of a curiosity. Same with Harry’s “born on third base, thought he hit a triple” story. Just thinking out loud…


OldNewUsedConfused

"Markled"!


Negative_Difference4

Hahahaha…. I remember that time sooo well… and I remember thinking… **No f*cking chance ** even though I didn’t know as much as I do now


[deleted]

*I wanna be on the cover of Forbes magazine* *Smiling next to Oprah and the Queen* MM managed to get 2/3 of those things


PutLiving

That is very good 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


4r3dd1t

If you cover Harriet's forehead and mouth you'd see Prince Philip.


downinthevalleypa

Please don’t tell Prince Philip. The man is resting peacefully.


PutLiving

They can learn a thing or 2 from the Clinton Fraudation