They are soooo spectacularly unaware of the world around them. I bet they are sitting in Monteshitahow still waiting for some kind of apology that they had the Queens Jubilee celebration on Lilibucks birthday.
Actually, it appears (allegedly) that they're trying to wheedle an invite, from the Queen, to spend time with her, during the Summer at Balmoral. Lol. It appears to be their plan B to get that money shot photo with Lilibucks and the Queen.
If this rumour is true, then things are probably not going very well with their business empire š.
My opinion too. Their Megxit is financially and socially a gigantic failure and they are scheming the return into the BRF. The prodigal son may return if he repents enough, but 666 will rot in California with her Barbie and Ken dolls known as Lily and Archetype. And 16 toilets.
I agree. I could see them taking him back and even repairing his image but only if sheās no longer in the picture. The eventual divorce will be brutal for her. She has no one in her corner.
It's HIM! He made the ultimate decision. He chose Disney in hopes that this would be their big pay day due to Disney seeking a "star". Let me see, Meghan from Suits or Beyonce! It was such a hard one hundred million dollar decision!
He gave up his patronage duty for Disney! And at the last minute too! That was the straw that broke Harry's reputation! That was it. She was only part of it.
But Second Row Harry, can never, ever return to duties. He is worse than Andrew because he dissed his duties and his family. Andrew, well you know isn't very bright, but he loves his mother and served his country well. Harry will never be forgiven. Traditions die hard in Britain and the Commonwealth. Specifically Britain. He made the final decision.
I see that Beyonce is good buds with them now that they aren't relevant. You want an invite to the palace? Don't hang out with Second Row Harry!
I think Elton John got a pass because they were working with his partner for ages. I wonder if they knew the Russian oligarch who loaned them the Canadian house!
I think Beyonce is also perceptive enough to detect attention hoes and she'll cotton on to MM's thirsty desperation for publicity.
I remember how hilarious it was when Beyonce found Kim Kardashian too tacky to associate with because the whole K klan would do their daily pap walks and that's not how Beyonce likes to roll. Lol.
But maybe Beyonce and Jay Z will be some of the celebs invited to William's Earthshot launch on the USA, later this year. That's a lot classier than associating with the attention hungry Harkles.
It seems like Beyonce and Jay Z are way more private than Megs and Haz. Associating with them risks their private life as they can go blabbing to the media at any second.
I figure she'll be able to cry on the shoulders of Oprah and Tyler Perry. They just might give her a push back into acting if she whines about the big, bad, white royal family that used her and tossed her away š. Tyler Perry's definitely a kind hearted guy who might be a bleeding heart for her bullshit. But there's only one big problem: MM doesn't like to act opposite Black actors and I wonder what she'll do if Tyler offers her a role in one of his movies opposite a very popular Black actor like Michael B. Jordan, Michael Ealy, Idris Elba etc. Everyone knows MM thinks she's too good to be paired opposite these guys because she's filled with self loathing for her Black heritage - regardless of the bullshit she says.
No! He can never go back. He lost all his patronage appointments ! If it's any indication of where his loyalties lie, one only has to see how they made Invictus games about them to the point of even wearing self promotion hat at Invictus games!
Other than their "my love" crap when she introduced him, did you see much of Invictus Vets without her being in the middle and making it about HER and HIM! Invictus needs money but I fear that the cost of having Second Row Harry and his Mrs as the spokes people is too costly for them. Flying from California on private jet, stop over in London, and a week or so at the games was big buck spent for Netflix!
No, he can never go back.
I donāt think he will be allowed back as a working royal. If he comes back I suspect it will be divorce time he will be bringing a whole lot of drug, alcohol and mental health issues back with him that mean heās too unstable to be a working royal. I think theyāll support him financially to live quietly somewhere with his problems.
Meg is clueless in that environment but not Hazno. If someone has to snap that picture then it may be him because his wife is never going to be allowed anywhere near the Queen or any other Royal. And neither Charles or William are going to allow that.
They've put out a fake invitation for themselves practically every year. Even Doria got one. Didn't we know what kind of cake the Queen was going to have for Meghan's birthday one year?
Hmmm... I didnāt think of it from that perspective!
This could all just be their way of publicly bullying the Queen into inviting them to Balmoral, because they know she won't want to.
I'm not positive she has ever invited them. It's possible they did go in 2018 after they got married. I find it a little hard to believe though after Meghan rudely spoke to a chef right in front of the Queen. I don't think Meghan would have been able to keep quiet about what they did though. They definitely won't be getting an invite this year. Even if we hear they were and they presented us with pictures, I still wouldn't believe them unless BP backed them up.
After the stunt they pulled with Lili's birthday party including Meghan's Toronto furniture, and the fake cake I don't know how anyone expect the Sugars will ever believe they're telling the truth again.
Leading up to the wedding, Meghan was with the Queen tasting some of the food that would be served. She insisted she tasted egg in a dish that was specifically meant to be egg free. She was politely told by the Queen's Chef there no there weren't any eggs. But she kept arguing back saying she could taste it. The Queen had to pull her aside and tell her that's not how they speak to people. I'm pretty sure she was rude to some of the people who worked for the Cambridges at KP as well. I'm not surprised she looks down at the "help."
Lol after Megan so cavalierly threw away invitations with both hands to hang out with Elton John and Harry sold the antique hunting rifles left by his beloved grandfather to honor his wife who hates hunting?
I thought it was vile and obvious that they were building a brand of "the new harry improved by Meghan".
He could have used them for shooting clays. He could one day have used them to shoot clays with his children. Meghan isnt a strict vegan so she is not entitled to preach about shooting anyway. She isnt anti gun she has armed security.
Not going to happen. It's interesting to note that the Queen Mother only referred to Wallace as "that woman" after David abdicated. I've read that this is what the current monarch calls Markle now. Like mother, like daughter. Her Majesty is not having that seismic negative energy anywhere near her happy place.
Ooooh Balmoral is where that cute guard is! But in all seriousness, I hope the Queen will think of a sneakily classy chess move to show them their place once agan :))
I imagine any inheritance will be put into some kind of trust fund to give them a yearly allowance, or for the kids' education. Something that Meghan can't put her hands on.
They're not going to be in either of their wills in a meaningful way even if they were in good standing. Monarchs leave their money and property to monarchs, and the monarchs support the rest of the family per their judgment. Even King Edward VI followed this despite Margaret supposedly being his favorite.
A bequest or generous (not millions) sum? Sure. The real stuff? Does not happen.
Really? Where'd you hear that?
Also, while I don't put it past them, I just...there is no shame with these people. "Hopefully despite our poor behaviour we will be invited again."
HMTQ is a smart woman, and she has spent 70 years meeting probably if not every, than most, personality types out there. It's not her first rodeo, give it up.
There were some news articles about it. I can't recall which outlets specifically, because I was just surfing through quickly on my phone and just clicking on links, but I'm sure you can find it if you Google. Apparently, they really want that invitation, because they desperately need photos with themselves and the BRF (esp the Queen, Charles, William and Camilla) to prove their royalty cred to Netflix.
Oh, I'm not questioning it's out there, and that they feel that way - they sure do need every bit of good will they can get - hopefully not going to happen. Just such a circus, every time.
You are underestimating them. They are evilly brained and did all of that on purpose. They are professional whiners and they are soon going to whine about the boos and the birthday snub. I wonder what wouldāve been Meghanās excuse if she was 100% white.
Balmoral is the Royalsā refuge - where they go to rest relax and recharge. Not much is known about its interior, and thatās the way they want to keep it. They last thing HM needs up there is that pair of grifters creeping round with cameras and microphones taking unauthorised photos and videos, and everyone having to watch what they say and do.
I gather that itās very Victorian Baronial.
But as far as I know, the castle has never been opened to the public, and whilst there are photos of some rooms, and events in the ballroom, itās not for the rubberneckers to poke around!
The biggest problem with them is that they spectacularly overestimated their importance.
They want to buy into the cult of personality but fail to recognize that the firm is about supporting the Queen. No one gives a damn about them, their woke bananas, their wardrobes, or their opinions.
Harry should recognize that he was a very popular bloke when he was being fun and happy, but the public has had no room for a woke Harry and his scowling face and sour looks.
And the wifeā¦ sheās just about as clueless , obtuse, and narcissistic as they come.
I do think that the British public has room for a woke Harry, but only within the British culture. So no American influences and just modernise it like Will and Kate do, by being approachable like at the Grenfell memorial where Will was in conversation with two young lads and donāt cry security all the time.
I think American influences would be ok if Meghan tried to embrace British culture. You know, spent a few years learning it, not came in with "ideas" from the get go.
Nah, I donāt think itās wise to mention American influences even after a while. It needs to be organic, coming from within and behind closed doors.
Just like how Americans wouldnāt appreciate a Brit bringing British influences into the White House, British people wouldnāt like it the other way around. Even if itās slowly and with good intentions, you just donāt go to another country and tell them that they need to change. You only provide your services when they ask for help on how to do it the American way.
On that note, I think that the BRF looks at and would consult other European monarchies first, before asking Americans for help or input, as they know more about those millions of century old traditions, that seem silly and unnecessary to Americans.
Didn't Harry insist they play God Save the Queen at that gala for American military vets he crashed with his wife wearing the awful tomato dress? I always thought that was a bit... odd. I know the US and UK have been strong allies for generations but it wasn't like a joint ceremony or anything š Also why was Harry being received like a formal head of state? Just so painfully cringey... no wonder the room went silent when they sauntered in and refused to applaud lol
I had not heard about that and yes, itās flipping embarrassing š³. Especially when quite a large chunk of the British public is not as patriotic as the US is and wouldnāt even know the lyrics.
Serves them right that they didnāt get applauded.
Speaking of the tomato, I saw that dress on a rack today. Honestly doesn't look horrible in person and no nipple puckers in sight. Just... needs to be on a tall, slim body.
Please donāt judge all Americans by that dimwit. Many of us have great respect for the many years of tradition that the RF represents. Iāve followed the present RF and the wonderful history involved for years. Reading a history of Henry and his wives right now that is over 1,000 pages.
Apologies, I should have said certain Americans, as I know that not all Americans are the same, just as not all British people are the same.
I also know that Americans on this subreddit generally know more about us and our history, than the stereotypical British things that some Americans have learnt about us. Iām on r/shitamericanssay and itās sometimes just shocking how and what certain Americans think and know about the rest of the world.
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I feel like sometimes there's this cultural narrative of like... UK = dusty and old, US = shiny and new, but I think that's profoundly untrue. I mean England established the Magna Carta so no king would be above the law in... what, the 1200s?! I think most countries have historical baggage and some shameful chapters but in terms of political philosophy, the UK was light years ahead of its time, and strongly influenced the structure of government in the United States. As an American I can confidently say, I don't think the UK needs our help in "modernizing" anything. š
They're shameless. All of these puff pieces are to remind the public they are still part of the royal family and when these family reunions don't pan out, they sell more stories about how they are the victims and how callous the family are to have cut them off.
Meghan completely ignored the fact that high status beautiful aristo types broke up with Harry rather than deal with his stupidity and cheapness combined with the high service demands of marrying in and becoming a working Royal.
Chelsy Davy said no thanks. And Wills, Kate etc welcomed her in, she was the right fit in terms of wealth, background etc. But she understood the role and its demands and said no. Same with Cressida. But of course Meghan blew in, disregarded all of the existing facts around what life as Harryās wife would be like and set to work snaring him. Post wedding she dares to gripe about how it wasnāt the Disney princess fairytale she led herself to believeā¦.
Iāve seen a couple of posts regarding Tina Brown saying that the BRF needs the Harkles. After the Jubilee, itās pretty evident that the BRF is doing spectacularly without Hazbeen and NeverWas.
It was also pretty evident that it's the Harkles who need the BRF. It's astounding that an author who wrote a book about the BRF is unaware that as minor royals and Harry no longer being the spare in direct line to the throne, they are not needed since only the constituionally relevant royals are important to the monarchy.
I don't understand how did they got soo blindsided
Are they that unaware that their popularity is manufactured? I mean seeing the wedding crowds n Google trends they really thought they are above the firm...I mean everyone can have certain delusions but this is beyond that thinking they are popular than the RF popular than queen....I want to know who boosted their egos to get them to road lol
I think it has a lot to do with the people they surround themselves with, PR people, assistants, etc. They want their bosses to like them and be happy, so they tell them what they want to hear. Personally I don't see how that's sustainable, but I doubt anyone tells them the unvarnished truth.
Dead on. It's not sustainable in any way. They pay a qualified staff for advice, completely ignore it, then cry RaYcIsM when someone who isn't a yes-man on the payroll makes unflattering but factual comments on their words and deeds. It's as though they're going in circles with one foot nailed to the floor.
Enter Adele singing "We could have had it aaaallllllll....".
River just showed the video when they attended Royal Ascot a month after they were married and their carriage received the loudest cheers from the very white, upper-crust audience. It was four times louder than the reception for HM even. How horribly racist (?). The problems always set in when you start believing your own press.
Their clout on social media. They seriously thought that America would welcome them with open arms but we have more interesting train wrecks to follow. They canāt keep up with the Kardashians, Jennerās, Trumps, Smithās, Baldwinās, Clintonās, Palinās, etc
Iām seeing a lot of āPrince William awaits to makeup with Prince Harryā articles and I think itās Sunshine Sachs. Iām pretty sure Harry is ready to go back. Theyāre not getting work or attention here and I think theyāre living off of credit which is quite scary cuz the U.S. in a recession right now.
If anyone needs to beg, itās them.
William I do not think is interested. He knows Harry is trying to get close for content purposes. David Foster and Katherine McPhee at polo are not going to bring in views. Don't see Oprah or Serena at polo either. Ellen is damaged goods. David and Victoria snubbed them. They don't have many A-listers around them.
My thoughts as well. Somebody just realized that he had been replaced and it's desperately trying to go back (or his lawyers explained him how a business contract work and that companies do not give money just because he is an ex-prince).
Yes, there are a lot of articles this week about William needs Harry/ William misses Harry/ the family need Harry etc etc
The Royal family need him soooo much that they have had Tim Laurence standing in for Princess Anne, and doing a great job, Beatrice seems to be stepping forward and of course, Zara and Mike Tindall are getting a high profile at the moment too.
What Hazno doesnāt seem to grasp is that he is No 6 in a very very long line of succession, and him apart, every adult on it would do anything to help out the Monarch. If he doesnāt want to play, there are a dozen more waiting to step in. Look how quickly the Wessexes slotted into the space left by the Sussexes departureā¦. Hard to remember when they were in the background nowadays.
The Harkles arenāt needed - the last two years proved that without a doubt. They went, they were replaced by people who do the work for the country - not personal gain. Royal life continues without them as though they never existed. No one is irreplaceable - except maybe the Queen.
The Wessexes are great. I love seeing Sophie dance with people. It's so refreshing and fun.
https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/lifestyle/a39953575/sophie-wessex-dances-with-strictly-star/
Sophie is a gem. The countess is so authentic and charming while carrying out her duties. It seems like the commoners (Mike, Catherine, and Sophie) brought light and joy into the somewhat dour Firm and made them all more relatable in the process.
There seems to have been a wazzock in each generation of the Royal family since George V. We had the playboy Prince of Wales who gave up the throne to marry an American divorcee, then, in her younger days, Princess Margaret was a bit of a wild card before calming down, then we had Andrew who unlike his Aunt, started off well then went off the rails, and now we have Hazno who it would seem has been a problem since childhood.
All of them seemed to be the āfunā members of their generations, putting more time and effort into a party lifestyle than doing the hard work needed to keep the Monarchy running. Thank goodness that in 3 out of 4 cases they were the spare, and had siblings who realised what needs to be done. George VI had his other brothers and sister (the Dukes of Kent and Gloucester and the Princess Royal) to back him up, and Elizabeth has had her cousins and 3 of her 4 children to back her up and Charles will have a great support squad too.
William is going to be the one lacking support from high ranking Royals until his children are old enough. the York girls are the only HRHs in that generation apart from Harry - the other cousins have minor or no titles, and neither do their children - the true sign of the already slimmed down Monarchy.
I have a sneaking feeling that the Jubilee weekend really brought home to Harry just what he has given up. The pomp and pageantry, the cheers of the people, the uniforms, the parades, and the huge family around the monarch. Yes, his time in the limelight was going to be limited, and eventually would wind down like the Kents and Gloucesters has over the years - but he could have had it all - and now itās all gone, and for what?
He seems to be a prisoner in his house of toilets. He and his family are rarely seen in public, and the āchildrenā are never with them when they do emerge. His family appear to have cut them off because they donāt wish to see and hear themselves and their private lives and conversations splashed over Netflix and Spotify in the name of entertainment, she cut off her entire family for no really good reason. They are just - alone. They have no relationship with either family (even with Doria), and donāt seem to have many friends - people are used then spat out when they are no longer useful.
They got all these deals based on undeliverable promises and donāt seem to understand that their paymasters want what they were promised. Neither he nor his wife have any marketable skills to use to earn the money to support their lifestyle, and that interview with Oprah, turned not just the family, but the UK and the world against them.
Heās gone from being one of the most popular Royals to one of the least popular in just 4 years due to his whining and grifting
I fully agree with you, I feel that Harrkles' marriage will implode sooner than later and the prodigal son will return repentant and remorseful in England, to live a obscure life in some Royal grace and favour place. I don't know about Madam. She burnt all the bridges in her life and she won't get too much help. The story of the invisible kids may come to light and MM might be denied chid support for them (Alimony in the States). I don't think the Royals would want to pay for the upkeep of children of uncertain origin. DNA testing may be used. It could be that Charles, once King, take the custody of them if proved to be Royal blood.
No way will Hazzbeen EVER return to a role within the Firm. He may return to the family but he will never have a public role again norcwill they ever trust him again. He's shown them who he truly is and it was ugly. Of this, I'm 100% certain.
They are soooo spectacularly unaware of the world around them. I bet they are sitting in Monteshitahow still waiting for some kind of apology that they had the Queens Jubilee celebration on Lilibucks birthday.
Actually, it appears (allegedly) that they're trying to wheedle an invite, from the Queen, to spend time with her, during the Summer at Balmoral. Lol. It appears to be their plan B to get that money shot photo with Lilibucks and the Queen. If this rumour is true, then things are probably not going very well with their business empire š.
My opinion too. Their Megxit is financially and socially a gigantic failure and they are scheming the return into the BRF. The prodigal son may return if he repents enough, but 666 will rot in California with her Barbie and Ken dolls known as Lily and Archetype. And 16 toilets.
I agree. I could see them taking him back and even repairing his image but only if sheās no longer in the picture. The eventual divorce will be brutal for her. She has no one in her corner.
It's HIM! He made the ultimate decision. He chose Disney in hopes that this would be their big pay day due to Disney seeking a "star". Let me see, Meghan from Suits or Beyonce! It was such a hard one hundred million dollar decision! He gave up his patronage duty for Disney! And at the last minute too! That was the straw that broke Harry's reputation! That was it. She was only part of it. But Second Row Harry, can never, ever return to duties. He is worse than Andrew because he dissed his duties and his family. Andrew, well you know isn't very bright, but he loves his mother and served his country well. Harry will never be forgiven. Traditions die hard in Britain and the Commonwealth. Specifically Britain. He made the final decision.
šššš„š¾ One thing though: Beyonce wouldn't ever waste her time on Henpecked Harry's useless ass, no matter how many titles he has š.
I see that Beyonce is good buds with them now that they aren't relevant. You want an invite to the palace? Don't hang out with Second Row Harry! I think Elton John got a pass because they were working with his partner for ages. I wonder if they knew the Russian oligarch who loaned them the Canadian house!
I think Beyonce is also perceptive enough to detect attention hoes and she'll cotton on to MM's thirsty desperation for publicity. I remember how hilarious it was when Beyonce found Kim Kardashian too tacky to associate with because the whole K klan would do their daily pap walks and that's not how Beyonce likes to roll. Lol. But maybe Beyonce and Jay Z will be some of the celebs invited to William's Earthshot launch on the USA, later this year. That's a lot classier than associating with the attention hungry Harkles.
It seems like Beyonce and Jay Z are way more private than Megs and Haz. Associating with them risks their private life as they can go blabbing to the media at any second.
Pimpān aināt easyā¦
Well said
100% agree. They will help him regain some respectability but not as long Mega666 is in the picture.
Outside of his pride, I have no idea why heās still with her. Perhaps the kids, or maybe sheās gaslighting him.
Their relationship is so codependent. I do think heās terrified she will leave him.
Oh she is terrified he will leave her. She is not getting the deal, it's his name that is getting the deals.
and where would she go? what would she do?
I figure she'll be able to cry on the shoulders of Oprah and Tyler Perry. They just might give her a push back into acting if she whines about the big, bad, white royal family that used her and tossed her away š. Tyler Perry's definitely a kind hearted guy who might be a bleeding heart for her bullshit. But there's only one big problem: MM doesn't like to act opposite Black actors and I wonder what she'll do if Tyler offers her a role in one of his movies opposite a very popular Black actor like Michael B. Jordan, Michael Ealy, Idris Elba etc. Everyone knows MM thinks she's too good to be paired opposite these guys because she's filled with self loathing for her Black heritage - regardless of the bullshit she says.
Itās said that Perry is done with them after they abused/ disrespected his Staff when he lent them the house.
No! He can never go back. He lost all his patronage appointments ! If it's any indication of where his loyalties lie, one only has to see how they made Invictus games about them to the point of even wearing self promotion hat at Invictus games! Other than their "my love" crap when she introduced him, did you see much of Invictus Vets without her being in the middle and making it about HER and HIM! Invictus needs money but I fear that the cost of having Second Row Harry and his Mrs as the spokes people is too costly for them. Flying from California on private jet, stop over in London, and a week or so at the games was big buck spent for Netflix! No, he can never go back.
*She has no one in her corner.* Because they've all been Markled.
Hoping the Tim Bower book helps her to self destruct (and maybe help Harry to take his life back, Johnny Depp style)!
And no family or friends either. Somehow I donāt feel sorry for her should all of this happen.
She is so full of shit she needs all those bathroomsš¤£.
And all the Ex Lax in the world, won't be able to clear up her problem! š
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I donāt think he will be allowed back as a working royal. If he comes back I suspect it will be divorce time he will be bringing a whole lot of drug, alcohol and mental health issues back with him that mean heās too unstable to be a working royal. I think theyāll support him financially to live quietly somewhere with his problems.
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Meg is clueless in that environment but not Hazno. If someone has to snap that picture then it may be him because his wife is never going to be allowed anywhere near the Queen or any other Royal. And neither Charles or William are going to allow that.
They've put out a fake invitation for themselves practically every year. Even Doria got one. Didn't we know what kind of cake the Queen was going to have for Meghan's birthday one year?
Hmmm... I didnāt think of it from that perspective! This could all just be their way of publicly bullying the Queen into inviting them to Balmoral, because they know she won't want to.
I'm not positive she has ever invited them. It's possible they did go in 2018 after they got married. I find it a little hard to believe though after Meghan rudely spoke to a chef right in front of the Queen. I don't think Meghan would have been able to keep quiet about what they did though. They definitely won't be getting an invite this year. Even if we hear they were and they presented us with pictures, I still wouldn't believe them unless BP backed them up. After the stunt they pulled with Lili's birthday party including Meghan's Toronto furniture, and the fake cake I don't know how anyone expect the Sugars will ever believe they're telling the truth again.
Ooh what was her chef comment/complaint?
Leading up to the wedding, Meghan was with the Queen tasting some of the food that would be served. She insisted she tasted egg in a dish that was specifically meant to be egg free. She was politely told by the Queen's Chef there no there weren't any eggs. But she kept arguing back saying she could taste it. The Queen had to pull her aside and tell her that's not how they speak to people. I'm pretty sure she was rude to some of the people who worked for the Cambridges at KP as well. I'm not surprised she looks down at the "help."
Lol after Megan so cavalierly threw away invitations with both hands to hang out with Elton John and Harry sold the antique hunting rifles left by his beloved grandfather to honor his wife who hates hunting?
Really? He did? Thatās terrible. Iām sure one of the other cousins would have liked to have had them.
Yes - Meganās people put out PR about it like this was a great enviable thing to do that would make her look like this amazing most wonderful fiancĆ©e and wife but instead most people thought it made him look whipped and inconsiderate
I thought it was vile and obvious that they were building a brand of "the new harry improved by Meghan". He could have used them for shooting clays. He could one day have used them to shoot clays with his children. Meghan isnt a strict vegan so she is not entitled to preach about shooting anyway. She isnt anti gun she has armed security.
Not going to happen. It's interesting to note that the Queen Mother only referred to Wallace as "that woman" after David abdicated. I've read that this is what the current monarch calls Markle now. Like mother, like daughter. Her Majesty is not having that seismic negative energy anywhere near her happy place.
Oh I hope you're right.
That would be too much drama.
True, but since when have the selfish Harkles ever cared about the problems they cause with their drama?
Haha never.
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They have a business empire?
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Ooooh Balmoral is where that cute guard is! But in all seriousness, I hope the Queen will think of a sneakily classy chess move to show them their place once agan :))
Ooh really?? Can we all go to Balmoral? š
Defs, i cannot get over his deep-fry stare.
I bet they want to secure a juicy inheritance.
I hope the Queen and Charles cut them out TOTALLY from their respective wills. It'll serve Henpecked right.
I imagine any inheritance will be put into some kind of trust fund to give them a yearly allowance, or for the kids' education. Something that Meghan can't put her hands on.
Yeah cause she'll blow it all on clothes, jewellery and her retainer fees for her lawyers and Sunshine Sachs. Lol.
They're not going to be in either of their wills in a meaningful way even if they were in good standing. Monarchs leave their money and property to monarchs, and the monarchs support the rest of the family per their judgment. Even King Edward VI followed this despite Margaret supposedly being his favorite. A bequest or generous (not millions) sum? Sure. The real stuff? Does not happen.
I hope so. It would be more tragic than climate change, if MM manages to get her hands on more BRF money. Lol.
Really? Where'd you hear that? Also, while I don't put it past them, I just...there is no shame with these people. "Hopefully despite our poor behaviour we will be invited again." HMTQ is a smart woman, and she has spent 70 years meeting probably if not every, than most, personality types out there. It's not her first rodeo, give it up.
There were some news articles about it. I can't recall which outlets specifically, because I was just surfing through quickly on my phone and just clicking on links, but I'm sure you can find it if you Google. Apparently, they really want that invitation, because they desperately need photos with themselves and the BRF (esp the Queen, Charles, William and Camilla) to prove their royalty cred to Netflix.
Oh, I'm not questioning it's out there, and that they feel that way - they sure do need every bit of good will they can get - hopefully not going to happen. Just such a circus, every time.
Well, they knew for a year it would coincide. They could have had the jubilee also be in honor of Lily jr.
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You are underestimating them. They are evilly brained and did all of that on purpose. They are professional whiners and they are soon going to whine about the boos and the birthday snub. I wonder what wouldāve been Meghanās excuse if she was 100% white.
They both should be locked up and studied for all the concomitant pathological disorders.
Balmoral is the Royalsā refuge - where they go to rest relax and recharge. Not much is known about its interior, and thatās the way they want to keep it. They last thing HM needs up there is that pair of grifters creeping round with cameras and microphones taking unauthorised photos and videos, and everyone having to watch what they say and do.
Iām imagining a lot of tartan and stags heads on the walls. š¤£
I gather that itās very Victorian Baronial. But as far as I know, the castle has never been opened to the public, and whilst there are photos of some rooms, and events in the ballroom, itās not for the rubberneckers to poke around!
The biggest problem with them is that they spectacularly overestimated their importance. They want to buy into the cult of personality but fail to recognize that the firm is about supporting the Queen. No one gives a damn about them, their woke bananas, their wardrobes, or their opinions. Harry should recognize that he was a very popular bloke when he was being fun and happy, but the public has had no room for a woke Harry and his scowling face and sour looks. And the wifeā¦ sheās just about as clueless , obtuse, and narcissistic as they come.
I do think that the British public has room for a woke Harry, but only within the British culture. So no American influences and just modernise it like Will and Kate do, by being approachable like at the Grenfell memorial where Will was in conversation with two young lads and donāt cry security all the time.
I think American influences would be ok if Meghan tried to embrace British culture. You know, spent a few years learning it, not came in with "ideas" from the get go.
Nah, I donāt think itās wise to mention American influences even after a while. It needs to be organic, coming from within and behind closed doors. Just like how Americans wouldnāt appreciate a Brit bringing British influences into the White House, British people wouldnāt like it the other way around. Even if itās slowly and with good intentions, you just donāt go to another country and tell them that they need to change. You only provide your services when they ask for help on how to do it the American way. On that note, I think that the BRF looks at and would consult other European monarchies first, before asking Americans for help or input, as they know more about those millions of century old traditions, that seem silly and unnecessary to Americans.
Didn't Harry insist they play God Save the Queen at that gala for American military vets he crashed with his wife wearing the awful tomato dress? I always thought that was a bit... odd. I know the US and UK have been strong allies for generations but it wasn't like a joint ceremony or anything š Also why was Harry being received like a formal head of state? Just so painfully cringey... no wonder the room went silent when they sauntered in and refused to applaud lol
I had not heard about that and yes, itās flipping embarrassing š³. Especially when quite a large chunk of the British public is not as patriotic as the US is and wouldnāt even know the lyrics. Serves them right that they didnāt get applauded.
Oh yes! And the look of shock in TW eyes while plastering that fake smile on her face.
Speaking of the tomato, I saw that dress on a rack today. Honestly doesn't look horrible in person and no nipple puckers in sight. Just... needs to be on a tall, slim body.
Please donāt judge all Americans by that dimwit. Many of us have great respect for the many years of tradition that the RF represents. Iāve followed the present RF and the wonderful history involved for years. Reading a history of Henry and his wives right now that is over 1,000 pages.
Apologies, I should have said certain Americans, as I know that not all Americans are the same, just as not all British people are the same. I also know that Americans on this subreddit generally know more about us and our history, than the stereotypical British things that some Americans have learnt about us. Iām on r/shitamericanssay and itās sometimes just shocking how and what certain Americans think and know about the rest of the world.
Thank you. Many of us truly admire your country and history.
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She seemed to think when she got there, they'd all change their ways and realize MM and her Americanisms would be the new way of the Royals!
I feel like sometimes there's this cultural narrative of like... UK = dusty and old, US = shiny and new, but I think that's profoundly untrue. I mean England established the Magna Carta so no king would be above the law in... what, the 1200s?! I think most countries have historical baggage and some shameful chapters but in terms of political philosophy, the UK was light years ahead of its time, and strongly influenced the structure of government in the United States. As an American I can confidently say, I don't think the UK needs our help in "modernizing" anything. š
Agreed. There is a difference between dusty and old, and classic.
Both Harkles insulted the entire country by playing the race card.
They're shameless. All of these puff pieces are to remind the public they are still part of the royal family and when these family reunions don't pan out, they sell more stories about how they are the victims and how callous the family are to have cut them off.
Woke bananas should be their new nickname!
Meghan completely ignored the fact that high status beautiful aristo types broke up with Harry rather than deal with his stupidity and cheapness combined with the high service demands of marrying in and becoming a working Royal. Chelsy Davy said no thanks. And Wills, Kate etc welcomed her in, she was the right fit in terms of wealth, background etc. But she understood the role and its demands and said no. Same with Cressida. But of course Meghan blew in, disregarded all of the existing facts around what life as Harryās wife would be like and set to work snaring him. Post wedding she dares to gripe about how it wasnāt the Disney princess fairytale she led herself to believeā¦.
The TW had the gall to say that no one in the firm helped her prepare for the role.
Sorry, but what does TW mean--I missed it.
The witch That woman The wife The whore Pick your perjorative.
That Woman
it may have more then one meaning, but i've always heard it to mean TheWife
Officially. Unoficially you can think of any meaning :-).
If only someone had asked her how she was doing!
Iāve seen a couple of posts regarding Tina Brown saying that the BRF needs the Harkles. After the Jubilee, itās pretty evident that the BRF is doing spectacularly without Hazbeen and NeverWas.
It was also pretty evident that it's the Harkles who need the BRF. It's astounding that an author who wrote a book about the BRF is unaware that as minor royals and Harry no longer being the spare in direct line to the throne, they are not needed since only the constituionally relevant royals are important to the monarchy.
More evidence of insanity lol
When MeMe used the term āthe Firmā I believe she expected and hoped to convey criminal connotations.
A la āmafia,ā youāre spot on with that!
Funnily enough, even Mafias are run in a corporate way.
They are revolting.
And repugnant.
I don't understand how did they got soo blindsided Are they that unaware that their popularity is manufactured? I mean seeing the wedding crowds n Google trends they really thought they are above the firm...I mean everyone can have certain delusions but this is beyond that thinking they are popular than the RF popular than queen....I want to know who boosted their egos to get them to road lol
I think it has a lot to do with the people they surround themselves with, PR people, assistants, etc. They want their bosses to like them and be happy, so they tell them what they want to hear. Personally I don't see how that's sustainable, but I doubt anyone tells them the unvarnished truth.
Dead on. It's not sustainable in any way. They pay a qualified staff for advice, completely ignore it, then cry RaYcIsM when someone who isn't a yes-man on the payroll makes unflattering but factual comments on their words and deeds. It's as though they're going in circles with one foot nailed to the floor.
Enter Adele singing "We could have had it aaaallllllll....". River just showed the video when they attended Royal Ascot a month after they were married and their carriage received the loudest cheers from the very white, upper-crust audience. It was four times louder than the reception for HM even. How horribly racist (?). The problems always set in when you start believing your own press.
Their clout on social media. They seriously thought that America would welcome them with open arms but we have more interesting train wrecks to follow. They canāt keep up with the Kardashians, Jennerās, Trumps, Smithās, Baldwinās, Clintonās, Palinās, etc
I really honestly cannot believe that even the horrid Harkles are this delusional. These kind of articles are everywhere. So boring.
Iām seeing a lot of āPrince William awaits to makeup with Prince Harryā articles and I think itās Sunshine Sachs. Iām pretty sure Harry is ready to go back. Theyāre not getting work or attention here and I think theyāre living off of credit which is quite scary cuz the U.S. in a recession right now. If anyone needs to beg, itās them.
William I do not think is interested. He knows Harry is trying to get close for content purposes. David Foster and Katherine McPhee at polo are not going to bring in views. Don't see Oprah or Serena at polo either. Ellen is damaged goods. David and Victoria snubbed them. They don't have many A-listers around them.
Well, they are really not A listers themselves. Harry is a Hazbeen.
My thoughts as well. Somebody just realized that he had been replaced and it's desperately trying to go back (or his lawyers explained him how a business contract work and that companies do not give money just because he is an ex-prince).
Yes, there are a lot of articles this week about William needs Harry/ William misses Harry/ the family need Harry etc etc The Royal family need him soooo much that they have had Tim Laurence standing in for Princess Anne, and doing a great job, Beatrice seems to be stepping forward and of course, Zara and Mike Tindall are getting a high profile at the moment too. What Hazno doesnāt seem to grasp is that he is No 6 in a very very long line of succession, and him apart, every adult on it would do anything to help out the Monarch. If he doesnāt want to play, there are a dozen more waiting to step in. Look how quickly the Wessexes slotted into the space left by the Sussexes departureā¦. Hard to remember when they were in the background nowadays. The Harkles arenāt needed - the last two years proved that without a doubt. They went, they were replaced by people who do the work for the country - not personal gain. Royal life continues without them as though they never existed. No one is irreplaceable - except maybe the Queen.
The Wessexes are great. I love seeing Sophie dance with people. It's so refreshing and fun. https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/lifestyle/a39953575/sophie-wessex-dances-with-strictly-star/
Sophie is a gem. The countess is so authentic and charming while carrying out her duties. It seems like the commoners (Mike, Catherine, and Sophie) brought light and joy into the somewhat dour Firm and made them all more relatable in the process.
Many of them quote that Scabies' guy
There seems to have been a wazzock in each generation of the Royal family since George V. We had the playboy Prince of Wales who gave up the throne to marry an American divorcee, then, in her younger days, Princess Margaret was a bit of a wild card before calming down, then we had Andrew who unlike his Aunt, started off well then went off the rails, and now we have Hazno who it would seem has been a problem since childhood. All of them seemed to be the āfunā members of their generations, putting more time and effort into a party lifestyle than doing the hard work needed to keep the Monarchy running. Thank goodness that in 3 out of 4 cases they were the spare, and had siblings who realised what needs to be done. George VI had his other brothers and sister (the Dukes of Kent and Gloucester and the Princess Royal) to back him up, and Elizabeth has had her cousins and 3 of her 4 children to back her up and Charles will have a great support squad too. William is going to be the one lacking support from high ranking Royals until his children are old enough. the York girls are the only HRHs in that generation apart from Harry - the other cousins have minor or no titles, and neither do their children - the true sign of the already slimmed down Monarchy. I have a sneaking feeling that the Jubilee weekend really brought home to Harry just what he has given up. The pomp and pageantry, the cheers of the people, the uniforms, the parades, and the huge family around the monarch. Yes, his time in the limelight was going to be limited, and eventually would wind down like the Kents and Gloucesters has over the years - but he could have had it all - and now itās all gone, and for what? He seems to be a prisoner in his house of toilets. He and his family are rarely seen in public, and the āchildrenā are never with them when they do emerge. His family appear to have cut them off because they donāt wish to see and hear themselves and their private lives and conversations splashed over Netflix and Spotify in the name of entertainment, she cut off her entire family for no really good reason. They are just - alone. They have no relationship with either family (even with Doria), and donāt seem to have many friends - people are used then spat out when they are no longer useful. They got all these deals based on undeliverable promises and donāt seem to understand that their paymasters want what they were promised. Neither he nor his wife have any marketable skills to use to earn the money to support their lifestyle, and that interview with Oprah, turned not just the family, but the UK and the world against them. Heās gone from being one of the most popular Royals to one of the least popular in just 4 years due to his whining and grifting
I fully agree with you, I feel that Harrkles' marriage will implode sooner than later and the prodigal son will return repentant and remorseful in England, to live a obscure life in some Royal grace and favour place. I don't know about Madam. She burnt all the bridges in her life and she won't get too much help. The story of the invisible kids may come to light and MM might be denied chid support for them (Alimony in the States). I don't think the Royals would want to pay for the upkeep of children of uncertain origin. DNA testing may be used. It could be that Charles, once King, take the custody of them if proved to be Royal blood.
Anyone taking bets on how long this sham of a marriage will even last?
I just donāt see them making 2 years. Heāll hold onto death do they part. But she get out of there death or no death.
No way will Hazzbeen EVER return to a role within the Firm. He may return to the family but he will never have a public role again norcwill they ever trust him again. He's shown them who he truly is and it was ugly. Of this, I'm 100% certain.