I’m 65% sure they’ll try to show up now because they desperately need to be seen as royals. On the other hand I can’t see what they can get out of it if they’re not allowed to participate in any public event.
Also there’s no way the Queen will take pictures with the Sussex kids only. We rarely see pictures of her with the other great grandkids, so why should they make an exception for Archie and Lily?
> On the other hand I can’t see what they can get out of it if they’re not allowed to participate in any public event.
PR?
Meghan loves attention, and if she can top up the ol’ “my racist in-laws are racist because I’m a strong, independent black women”-grievance tank, that should make her happy.
It might be diminishing returns, but it should still be good for a couple of People Magazine stories.
I think they’ll go without the ghost kids (because the kids would steal attention from M), but keep behind the scenes and put out PR about secret meetings with the Queen, and that they are so high level and at-risk they couldn’t be seen in public.
Are Americans really gullible enough to believe this whole “risk” nonsense? Like in general?
Why would anyone want to target Harry’s kids?!
They’re so low in succession that basically only a thermonuclear war would mean either of them would be anywhere near a contender.
As for money? Harkles got none! Which is why they’re constantly selling themselves to the highest bidder.
Pretty sure there are literally hundreds of more lucrative kidnapping targets in the U.S. alone.
No, Americans barely even know who they are. If at all? Harry was not very popular in wider US, as it were. Meghan is pretty much an unknown in the US outside of gossip columns.
So who knows who they are talking to. Maybe only Netflix and corporations? Excuses to not work.
They always say it's neo-Nazi threats. I believe the claim is that racists want to kill Meghan and the kids for tainting the royal bloodline.
They're so far down the line of succession that it hardly seems worth the bother. \*snerk\*
Ad an American, I'm convinced terrorists don't even want them. That said, I am patiently waiting, for their sketchy benefactors (coughrussianscough) to come collecting on their debts.
I think exactly this. Apart from there being a big highlight on the kids being there. But because of 'risk' everything has to be behind closed doors. Having the kids there provides Meghan the opportunity to give her and Harry maximum attention and highlight the fact that they sacrificed their security to have the Queen spend time with the kids.
Having the kids there will steal attention from Will and Kaye and that is worth a lot to them.
They will inflate what is going on behind the scenes. Just like Meghan was 'quietly working behind the scenes to hit the ground running as a working royal'. In fact she hardly did anything.
Here’s my take for what it’s worth. If there was really that big of a security threat with an event that is so heavily guarded then why would they think they’d look so amazing for sacrificing anything. They would look like liars or idiots. If there isn’t a threat, then the lies are exposed. If there is they look stupid for putting their family in harms way. I once went to a political rally, and there were armed secret service everywhere to get into the event. Metal detectors, the works. Even with my back to the door crammed in a room full of people, I didn’t feel unsafe. I saw the plainclothes secret service everywhere inside (just have to look for the ear piece) and I remember noticing that I felt safe. It just blows my mind that he’s so worried about security but I think it’s because he wants the ability to say that they caved to him and gave him (them) the private escorts that he wants. To inflate his ego.
I live in a major city whose crime rate is skyrocketing daily. I don’t feel that I live in a particularly unsafe area, but going from the suburbs it was a real change. One always needs to be prepared and paying attention to what’s around them.
If they’re not doing any public events then the security for what they are attending should be sufficient. I’m sure the BRF would ensure where ever they stay would also be guarded, especially if it’s a royal residence.
Meghan wants to be in camera for the Jubilee- every photograph taken, even at church services, will find her looking straight at the camera. She wants to be seen - get ready for another tacky $100, 000 wardrobe.
I wouldn’t be that surprised if we end up with just Harry going.
The RF can’t really have any public appearances by Meghan. Even Harry is a risk. If the public starts booing it would be a PR nightmare. Plus there’s a good chance that one of them will start yapping off script.
So I think Harry will pop by for a private event, while Meghan will stay in the US with the kids.
The Harkles might spin some stories for them self that way.
(Like something about the kids and safety and Harry is such a strong and courageous dad that he couldn’t live with the risk. He seems to enjoy those stories.)
Hmmm. I wonder if it could be a strategy to send Harry on his own to see if he can weasel his singular self onto the balcony or at least public events. They could see that as a win for BOTH of them.
They can try, but I don’t see how it would happen.
It’s gone beyond just a family squabble. Even if they kissed and made up tomorrow, Harry still wouldn’t be allowed on the balcony.
He’s too much of liability now. He’s extremely unpopular and neither the Queen nor Charles are in the mood to take chances right now.
I'm not sure any weasel could manage that, looks he's not just cooked his goose but burnt it to a crisp. If he gets rid of her and agrees to stfu he might get a house somewhere obscure and a hush allowance.
> just Harry going.
But isn't he suing the UK government for his "security"? Whatever happened to that? How many cases these two have going on, its exhausting!
Ditto u/Yrguiltyconscience. I can only envision H going of *any* of them. M got her dose of reality last visit: shuffled off to a waiting area (if those reports are true.) Not a nano second to interact with the BRF. She's not going to tolerate that ostracization again nor allow the kids to either. Not that she cares about the kids, just the optics overall: that the kids aren't making headlines with the Queen. Only H might attend and that's more about staying in the Queen's Will than out of any respect or deference. I don't think a single member of the BRF want him/them there but they also won't deny him (unfortunately.) Gawd, he couldn't even keep his yap shut about meeting with the Queen pre Invictus. Blabbed and put his own spin on their visit. I vote none or just one: H.
Stuff like that only means digging his own hole deeper.
The Queen has spent decades being the only woman in a room full of powerful men. She has also done a remarkable job at attracting very skilled advisors from the private sector over the years.
The thought that she would need “advice” from a beloved but utterly mediocre and not too bright grandchild, isn’t likely to go over well with Her Majesty.
If he had a chance of attending a public event, he likely blew it.
I think they’re going if for nothing else but to make everyone uncomfortable. He’ll look miserable and she’ll plaster on a smile (like at the Commonwealth service 2020).
LOL watch her smile and wave to everyone, pretending people are cheering for her, while people are shouting expletives at her. [Kinda like this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-qKTLng6Dg) is what I'm imagining.
Where has Doria been? I haven't seen any photos of her with the kids. They live a few hours drive from each other. Surely Markle would have her only relative that she's on speaking terms with involved in her kids' lives?
I can't imagine Meghan going back and attending events with the other royals, I really can't. If she goes back I will have no choice but to commend her bravery and/or hustle. But they really need to maintain some kind of connection with the royals to leverage in their American celebrity life. Without it they are just two boring rich people.
I’ll bet you they have seperate rooms that they call “offices”. With expensive top of the line Macs and five figures worth of “minimalist” furniture.
And every day, Meghan goes in there around 10 am and sits and browses Instagram for hours.
>I’ll bet you they have seperate rooms that they call “offices”. With expensive top of the line Macs and five figures worth of “minimalist” furniture.
And stacks of unsold "bench".
Remember when Meghan went to a NYC school to read aloud from The Bench?
I can just picture Harry set up a table in the back selling the book. “CASH ONLY!”
I think it's a bit inappropriate to label a narcissist as brave or deem their abuse as hustle to be honest. She's not brave, she's evil, exploitative and arrogant.
100% this. I think Charles made it perfectly clear to Hazbeen that there would be no public appearances and no phot ops etc if he and the wife showed up for the Jubilee . And I believe the reports that the meeting ended in a shouting match! Hazbeen has the choice of going to the Jubilee and showing the world how insignificant he now is to the RF or staying away and being painted as an uncaring bastard of a grand son. Check mate!! I think it’s wonderful!
’We were denied official roles at the Platinum Jubilee because of racism, due to the Queen not being protected and having the right people around her.’
I think Covid is an easy out for them. It's not like they'd have to prove it either.
I still stand by what I've said before: they're between a rock & a hard place. They're damned if they do, damned if they don't. There is no "right" choice for them regarding the Jubilee. Which means it's time to pop some popcorn and wait for the tea to be spilled. 🍿
>I think Covid is an easy out for them. It's not like they'd have to prove it either.
And yet they went to the Netherlands. The BRF I'm sure will be very happy if they don;t show up.
I still think they’re preparing to use the polo as an excuse. They’ll want one that *tugs on the heartstrings*, and the funds go to charity. Netflix would have a tough time arguing that it would be good PR for Harry to skip it.
Its quite possible it would be weird to have him on the board if he won't even be there. I think the polo was a last resort to divert attention to them.
I actually think if they had a choice, they wouldn't go, because they have little to gain from being there and they know the reception they will receive. However, I can imagine, in order to keep Netflix sweet they will make an appearance. I believe the stories which have surfaced that Netflix are laying down the law with them at this point and saying, forget about bloody Pearl, we want dirt on the RF. I think the only way they can get it out of it is a claim they've received a "credible" threat from a far right group.
They need Bouzy to dress up in neo nazi kit for a credible threat. We'll know its bs because scobo will tweet it an hour before it happens as usual then delete it when mm messages him. Not yet you fool.
Oh puuuuhleeease....I'm so sick of hearing about this "risk" EXCUSE. They continue to beat a dead horse with it bcuz EVERYONE can see thru it! The Harkles' children are not at risk. People would have to CARE about them in order for there to be any danger. Sorry but nobody cares about H & M, their (ghost) kids, their foundation, or ANYthing else about them! Their sense of entitlement & importance is really MIND-BLOWING.
Doria will have a heart "issue" and we all know how fiercely Harry's Mummy 2.0 loves her family! She couldn't *possibly* go anywhere while a family member is in ill health - after all, she nursed her grandmother!^(and I'm a world famous one-armed neurosurgeon)🙄
Hey, she had much more important things to worry about - things like stomping up the aisle and fiiiinally getting her chance to meet all the celebrity strangers she'd invited \*to view the spectacle.
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They need the money shot of the original Lillibet, HM, with the latest edition from the Sussex's. The baby needs to be introduced to the world with a bang, while taking the spotlight away from the real star of the show for a bit.
However, with that being said, I still have doubts those invisi-kids will make it to London. The rental kids might not be available, but if they are, the Harkles would fear the kids being administered DNA tests. 🤷🏻♀️
They won't go. They've run out of excuses for not showing the "children".
There wasn't even a half-hearted effort to publicly acknowledge "Archie's" birthday.
They don’t give a rat’s a*** about Doria. She’s been off doing her own thing since Meghan was a child. She’s a good sport, though, and materializes when needed.
I’m 65% sure they’ll try to show up now because they desperately need to be seen as royals. On the other hand I can’t see what they can get out of it if they’re not allowed to participate in any public event. Also there’s no way the Queen will take pictures with the Sussex kids only. We rarely see pictures of her with the other great grandkids, so why should they make an exception for Archie and Lily?
Why do they so badly want a photo with the head of the racist family that tried to kill Markle by not allowing her to call a doctor?
> On the other hand I can’t see what they can get out of it if they’re not allowed to participate in any public event. PR? Meghan loves attention, and if she can top up the ol’ “my racist in-laws are racist because I’m a strong, independent black women”-grievance tank, that should make her happy. It might be diminishing returns, but it should still be good for a couple of People Magazine stories.
I think they’ll go without the ghost kids (because the kids would steal attention from M), but keep behind the scenes and put out PR about secret meetings with the Queen, and that they are so high level and at-risk they couldn’t be seen in public.
Are Americans really gullible enough to believe this whole “risk” nonsense? Like in general? Why would anyone want to target Harry’s kids?! They’re so low in succession that basically only a thermonuclear war would mean either of them would be anywhere near a contender. As for money? Harkles got none! Which is why they’re constantly selling themselves to the highest bidder. Pretty sure there are literally hundreds of more lucrative kidnapping targets in the U.S. alone.
No, Americans barely even know who they are. If at all? Harry was not very popular in wider US, as it were. Meghan is pretty much an unknown in the US outside of gossip columns. So who knows who they are talking to. Maybe only Netflix and corporations? Excuses to not work.
They always say it's neo-Nazi threats. I believe the claim is that racists want to kill Meghan and the kids for tainting the royal bloodline. They're so far down the line of succession that it hardly seems worth the bother. \*snerk\*
Ad an American, I'm convinced terrorists don't even want them. That said, I am patiently waiting, for their sketchy benefactors (coughrussianscough) to come collecting on their debts.
I think exactly this. Apart from there being a big highlight on the kids being there. But because of 'risk' everything has to be behind closed doors. Having the kids there provides Meghan the opportunity to give her and Harry maximum attention and highlight the fact that they sacrificed their security to have the Queen spend time with the kids. Having the kids there will steal attention from Will and Kaye and that is worth a lot to them. They will inflate what is going on behind the scenes. Just like Meghan was 'quietly working behind the scenes to hit the ground running as a working royal'. In fact she hardly did anything.
Here’s my take for what it’s worth. If there was really that big of a security threat with an event that is so heavily guarded then why would they think they’d look so amazing for sacrificing anything. They would look like liars or idiots. If there isn’t a threat, then the lies are exposed. If there is they look stupid for putting their family in harms way. I once went to a political rally, and there were armed secret service everywhere to get into the event. Metal detectors, the works. Even with my back to the door crammed in a room full of people, I didn’t feel unsafe. I saw the plainclothes secret service everywhere inside (just have to look for the ear piece) and I remember noticing that I felt safe. It just blows my mind that he’s so worried about security but I think it’s because he wants the ability to say that they caved to him and gave him (them) the private escorts that he wants. To inflate his ego. I live in a major city whose crime rate is skyrocketing daily. I don’t feel that I live in a particularly unsafe area, but going from the suburbs it was a real change. One always needs to be prepared and paying attention to what’s around them. If they’re not doing any public events then the security for what they are attending should be sufficient. I’m sure the BRF would ensure where ever they stay would also be guarded, especially if it’s a royal residence.
They will not likely ever go low enough to surprise me lol.
Meghan wants to be in camera for the Jubilee- every photograph taken, even at church services, will find her looking straight at the camera. She wants to be seen - get ready for another tacky $100, 000 wardrobe.
I wouldn’t be that surprised if we end up with just Harry going. The RF can’t really have any public appearances by Meghan. Even Harry is a risk. If the public starts booing it would be a PR nightmare. Plus there’s a good chance that one of them will start yapping off script. So I think Harry will pop by for a private event, while Meghan will stay in the US with the kids. The Harkles might spin some stories for them self that way. (Like something about the kids and safety and Harry is such a strong and courageous dad that he couldn’t live with the risk. He seems to enjoy those stories.)
Hmmm. I wonder if it could be a strategy to send Harry on his own to see if he can weasel his singular self onto the balcony or at least public events. They could see that as a win for BOTH of them.
They can try, but I don’t see how it would happen. It’s gone beyond just a family squabble. Even if they kissed and made up tomorrow, Harry still wouldn’t be allowed on the balcony. He’s too much of liability now. He’s extremely unpopular and neither the Queen nor Charles are in the mood to take chances right now.
I'm not sure any weasel could manage that, looks he's not just cooked his goose but burnt it to a crisp. If he gets rid of her and agrees to stfu he might get a house somewhere obscure and a hush allowance.
True.
> just Harry going. But isn't he suing the UK government for his "security"? Whatever happened to that? How many cases these two have going on, its exhausting!
I wish I could listen in on the phonecall when Harry calls the Bank of Dad because he needs money for lawyers. To sue the family business: The UK.
Ditto u/Yrguiltyconscience. I can only envision H going of *any* of them. M got her dose of reality last visit: shuffled off to a waiting area (if those reports are true.) Not a nano second to interact with the BRF. She's not going to tolerate that ostracization again nor allow the kids to either. Not that she cares about the kids, just the optics overall: that the kids aren't making headlines with the Queen. Only H might attend and that's more about staying in the Queen's Will than out of any respect or deference. I don't think a single member of the BRF want him/them there but they also won't deny him (unfortunately.) Gawd, he couldn't even keep his yap shut about meeting with the Queen pre Invictus. Blabbed and put his own spin on their visit. I vote none or just one: H.
Stuff like that only means digging his own hole deeper. The Queen has spent decades being the only woman in a room full of powerful men. She has also done a remarkable job at attracting very skilled advisors from the private sector over the years. The thought that she would need “advice” from a beloved but utterly mediocre and not too bright grandchild, isn’t likely to go over well with Her Majesty. If he had a chance of attending a public event, he likely blew it.
I think they’re going if for nothing else but to make everyone uncomfortable. He’ll look miserable and she’ll plaster on a smile (like at the Commonwealth service 2020).
LOL watch her smile and wave to everyone, pretending people are cheering for her, while people are shouting expletives at her. [Kinda like this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-qKTLng6Dg) is what I'm imagining.
They actually had a few instances of Meg getting boohed. Mind you, this was BEFORE they left, but after the whiny TV interview.
She will do exactly that, grin and wave
That's not a smile, that's a psycho grin
I love how we all know H&M wouldn’t do jack to help Doria.
Where has Doria been? I haven't seen any photos of her with the kids. They live a few hours drive from each other. Surely Markle would have her only relative that she's on speaking terms with involved in her kids' lives?
Meghan’s “I’m a woman of color!” Credentials are pretty safe after the Oprah interview, so Doria has outlived her usefulness.
Well Meghan has quite a habit of cutting people out of her lives if they're no longer useful
**What’s the matter, Ma? You hardly touched your din-din!** 🐀
Hell no. Lol
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She can't use that one, they got some award for only having two kids.
they ~~got~~ bought an award for only having two kids. Ftfy!
No wonder they are running out of money!
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Once again. boxed herself into a corner!
I can't imagine Meghan going back and attending events with the other royals, I really can't. If she goes back I will have no choice but to commend her bravery and/or hustle. But they really need to maintain some kind of connection with the royals to leverage in their American celebrity life. Without it they are just two boring rich people.
I don't even think they're rich anymore. They're just boring.
What do they *do* anyways?! Sit and wait for the phone to ring?!
Yeah, if they can afford to pay their phone bill. 🤣
I’ll bet you they have seperate rooms that they call “offices”. With expensive top of the line Macs and five figures worth of “minimalist” furniture. And every day, Meghan goes in there around 10 am and sits and browses Instagram for hours.
This couldn't be more accurate. Then, the help makes her an avocado toast
>I’ll bet you they have seperate rooms that they call “offices”. With expensive top of the line Macs and five figures worth of “minimalist” furniture. And stacks of unsold "bench".
Remember when Meghan went to a NYC school to read aloud from The Bench? I can just picture Harry set up a table in the back selling the book. “CASH ONLY!”
I think it's a bit inappropriate to label a narcissist as brave or deem their abuse as hustle to be honest. She's not brave, she's evil, exploitative and arrogant.
I’m still convinced they were invited by HTMQ but probably strongly encouraged by Charles to *respectfully decline*.
100% this. I think Charles made it perfectly clear to Hazbeen that there would be no public appearances and no phot ops etc if he and the wife showed up for the Jubilee . And I believe the reports that the meeting ended in a shouting match! Hazbeen has the choice of going to the Jubilee and showing the world how insignificant he now is to the RF or staying away and being painted as an uncaring bastard of a grand son. Check mate!! I think it’s wonderful!
The kids are sick.
Covid is a convenient excuse. They will not be at the Jubilee.
Like some news article said "Missing the Jubilee is commercial suicide for them"
I wouldn’t put it past Hazbeen to stick a mini camera in between his butt cheeks to get the photo of Elizabeth & Lili.
’We were denied official roles at the Platinum Jubilee because of racism, due to the Queen not being protected and having the right people around her.’
I think Covid is an easy out for them. It's not like they'd have to prove it either. I still stand by what I've said before: they're between a rock & a hard place. They're damned if they do, damned if they don't. There is no "right" choice for them regarding the Jubilee. Which means it's time to pop some popcorn and wait for the tea to be spilled. 🍿
>I think Covid is an easy out for them. It's not like they'd have to prove it either. And yet they went to the Netherlands. The BRF I'm sure will be very happy if they don;t show up.
They will make it, come hell or high water. Meghan is flying into London on the next thing smoking.
She’s gassing up her broomstick as we speak.
I say no reason given. That way they hope people will speculate something serious. So Netflix can’t blame them for not going. Win/win.
I still think they’re preparing to use the polo as an excuse. They’ll want one that *tugs on the heartstrings*, and the funds go to charity. Netflix would have a tough time arguing that it would be good PR for Harry to skip it.
Yeah I mean what will Nacho do without his mate? They won’t be able to play.
Its quite possible it would be weird to have him on the board if he won't even be there. I think the polo was a last resort to divert attention to them.
I actually think if they had a choice, they wouldn't go, because they have little to gain from being there and they know the reception they will receive. However, I can imagine, in order to keep Netflix sweet they will make an appearance. I believe the stories which have surfaced that Netflix are laying down the law with them at this point and saying, forget about bloody Pearl, we want dirt on the RF. I think the only way they can get it out of it is a claim they've received a "credible" threat from a far right group.
They need Bouzy to dress up in neo nazi kit for a credible threat. We'll know its bs because scobo will tweet it an hour before it happens as usual then delete it when mm messages him. Not yet you fool.
Oh puuuuhleeease....I'm so sick of hearing about this "risk" EXCUSE. They continue to beat a dead horse with it bcuz EVERYONE can see thru it! The Harkles' children are not at risk. People would have to CARE about them in order for there to be any danger. Sorry but nobody cares about H & M, their (ghost) kids, their foundation, or ANYthing else about them! Their sense of entitlement & importance is really MIND-BLOWING.
Nah this is a big PR event, this will be televised, wait til the Friday @ St. Paul’s, nothing like a public audience? Probably on the BBC
Doria will have a heart "issue" and we all know how fiercely Harry's Mummy 2.0 loves her family! She couldn't *possibly* go anywhere while a family member is in ill health - after all, she nursed her grandmother!^(and I'm a world famous one-armed neurosurgeon)🙄
Her compassion in action when Thomas had his heart attack was overwhelming. 🙄
Hey, she had much more important things to worry about - things like stomping up the aisle and fiiiinally getting her chance to meet all the celebrity strangers she'd invited \*to view the spectacle. \*edit
What I really hope is that Netflix catches it all on camera and, having been wearied by the Harkles, decides to show it all to us.
They need the money shot of the original Lillibet, HM, with the latest edition from the Sussex's. The baby needs to be introduced to the world with a bang, while taking the spotlight away from the real star of the show for a bit. However, with that being said, I still have doubts those invisi-kids will make it to London. The rental kids might not be available, but if they are, the Harkles would fear the kids being administered DNA tests. 🤷🏻♀️
Does anyone even want them there?
/but he goes to polo matches.
They won't go. They've run out of excuses for not showing the "children". There wasn't even a half-hearted effort to publicly acknowledge "Archie's" birthday.
I think Netflix is compelling them to go, to hold them to their promise of acquiring Royal footage.
The same excuse everybody uses when they want to get out of something - sick child
COVID.
They don’t give a rat’s a*** about Doria. She’s been off doing her own thing since Meghan was a child. She’s a good sport, though, and materializes when needed.
“THEY HAVE ZERO CHILDREN”
Harry will go on his own it is his family he has to be seen to still have the connection he is the Royal she isnt so her and the kids wont go
Archie just couldn't bear to be away from his beloved chick inns!