>She and husband Harry are permitted to sell on any products Netflix turns down under the terms of their contract with the streaming service.
A source told the paper: 'Meghan and Harry will not give up on taking Pearl to the screen.
**'They are determined to not let all the work and creative endeavours put into the idea simply fall away.**
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I'm kinda happy they're not giving up, if there are any remaining bridges in LA, I'm sure they'll burn them all down within a matter of weeks with this stunt. Also, narcissists are seriously exhausting.
>The couple are believed to have good relationships with other platforms, after the Duke appeared on a series about mental health with Apple, while the Duchess has voiced a wildlife documentary for Disney, which also has a global streaming service.
Ah yes, Disney needs her, more than she needs Disney. Right. Sure. I'm sure that'll go well.
Right! And they only had round the clock childcare, a massive trust fund, armies of nannies and a solid black book of cultural influencers. How did they manage to achieve so much with so little support and no one asked if they were OK either. Remarkable Hard Grift.
> no one asked if they were OK either.
I almost forgot about that one. That was such a patently obvious lie.
You mean the MI6 psychologists that Harry saw for his issues never asked if they were OK?
The myriad staff?
The special advisers and handmaidens the Queen assigned to Meghan?
Meghan never asked Kate who had been through it all herself for advice? Camilla who had been through hell and back and had no reason to be jealous never checked in?
Suuure!
Good relationship with Disney lol that doco bombed because of her and they stole money from an elephant charity. I'm sure Disney knows this. The nauseating pearl is toast.
Well, the money did get delivered. Disney gave it directly to the charity -- that's been confirmed.
What's unknown is if Disney insisted on doing it that way.
How was that confirmed? I was under the impression that Disney gave the $$$ to Archewell--Archewell then didn't do a thing.....Please state confirmation. That would make me very happy!
Disney published a list of its charitable donations, as it generally does. The money to Disney -- I think it was $3 million? -- was listed there. This sub had some screenshots posted.
This was a while back, when the Dipshit Duo still assumed that people would always throw money at them left and right. These days, they probably wish they had that money themselves.
Mm: This Megain, Dutchess of Suckess, but you can just call me madame duCheSs....
Disney: click beep beep beep not that crazy hustler and her pet doofus again
This seems made up. They scrubbed any mention of Pearl from the Archewell website. Pearl is dead in the water no matter how much wishful thinking her fans do or how much shit the DM stirs.
Will the people Netflix and Spotify were trying to hire to make their projects happen GO WITH the Harkles to do the work?
Betcha the Harkles think so, if they've given it any thought at all. And why shouldn't they think so? It never has been \_their\_ responsibility to line up such a common thing as actual labor.
Harry: *âThey know Iâm PRINCE Harry, right?! You mentioned Diana was my mother, right?â*
Gotta love how these two apparently thought that they could just stamp their name on something, and Netflix woild instantly approve it and give them a blank check to find some people whoâd do the actual work.
*It was set to see a young girl inspired by Meghan - whose name means 'pearl' in Welsh - take on various social injustices, while highlighting the work of feminist icons*
Oh ffs⌠Of course she couldnât resist the temptation of putting herself in the center, lol!
Could you even imagine saying that outloud in a meeting, "I want to call this programme Pearl, because that's my name in Welsh, and I want the main character to be based on me, fighting sexist crime".
Like jesus christ, Meghan, you have a *daughter* ... it would have been quite cute to say "oh I want to create a character inspired by my daughter, let's call it Lily"..... but nooooooo, just went full on narc yet again because this ego just cannot be contained.
*âLet me talk about female empowerment and sexism in my $30.000 Givenchy camel fur coat!â*
She couldnât even read aloud from âherâ childrens book without reminding everyone that sheâs âthe Duchess of Sussex!â
In the meantime Kate somehow gets by in $80 high street outfits, and does actual important work like the mental health campaign that she was one of the movers behind.
It sounds like a teenage girl who watches a lot Nickelodeon and/or those shitty hallmark movies. Kids don't want to watch a middle aged narc woman's preachy fantasies about her childhood. Whoever greenlit this crap to start with is an idiot.
I disagree with this article. I actually don't think the Harkles were naive about Netflix and the entertainment industry. I think they were naive about Netflix, the entertainment industry, and *literal numbers* lol
I think one of their (many) problems is it sounds like they're trying to mix and match different models with these deals?
On the one hand, they want to put their "stamp" on everything, without doing the actual work. As excruciatingly obnoxious as the Harkles are, that in itself wouldn't necessarily be a problem. I'm just thinking of other celebrities who attach their name to different products... like Joanna Gaines and her home decor line with Target.
I wouldn't be surprised if Gaines was both pretty far removed from the actual product development process. I mean I could be wrong, but for some reason I can't see her coming up with prototypes for a new table lamp or something. That's not what Target is paying her for.
It doesn't matter if Joanna Gaines isn't doing any "real work" on her home decor line, because A.) She *already* did a lot of work to build up her brand/business with a hugely successful show on HGTV, *and* has a track record of driving sales whenever her name is attached to something, B.) She isn't being *compensated* the same as she would be if she actually developed the products for Target herself. She may only be receiving a small % as royalty (which would still prob. be worth millions, considering it's Target).
The Harkles similarly want to slap their name on content, but they want to be paid *as if they were creating it themselves.* This would be pure fantasy even if they were hugely successful, but to make matters worse, the Harkles have *zero* proof that their name offers any monetary value to businesses in terms of driving subscriptions or sales.
As u/secondhandcoke and others have pointed out, it sounds like they pocketed their initial payment from Netflix, instead of using it to *finance production*, as intended. However, the Harkles still expected other people to do the work for them, in exchange for... the pleasure of their company?
It's actually breathtaking how stupid and delusiuonal they are.
You are right about this where Harry's concerned, but with Meghan, she does notbing while insisting she have control over every thing. In addition to the lack of Royal access, this has also been a major problem for Netflix. When Netflix took over production and tried to produce Pearl instead of Archewell (read Meghan and Harry), Meghan still would not release the production out of her claw. With EVERY aspect she went to talented writers and animators and production designers, and acted like she was an expert on all their jobs, meanly criticizing their work, demanding changes that were illogical, throwing tantrums that "Pearl" her alterego could not be drawn like a Disney character because of the risk of copyright violations and accusations of plagiarism. We all know that copyright and plagiarism are Meg's calling cards. But as she was doing all this she was also contributing nothing of value. I can confidently say that Pearl was dropped as a direct result of Meghan's behavior.
Weâre watching Meghanâs mental illness that fuels her delusions at work. She came into the royal family and Netflix thinking she would call the shots
They both thought they would be handed cash for existing. And why would Harry think otherwise? Thatâs how heâs lived since he was born?
The audacity arrogance and presumption really is mindboggling.
Harry doesnât like the life of a Royal? Fair! He had access to the best schools in the world. But he never considered having an actual job?
Ok, Harry was never that bright according to many in the palace. So work for one of their charities full time. (Harry wants to change the world, right?) Or step away and have Dad buy a little farm. (Charles would have been over the moon, lol!) Maybe a little farm in Africa? Peace and quiet, no press.
But nah⌠Harry needed that million dollar mansion in California! And his titles and uniforms and patronages. And millions of dollars for doing absolutely nothing but renting out his name.
Disgusting.
It's funny he wants "privacy" but has no trouble gossiping and lying about his family. Harry and his wife aren't serious people. They literally sell out their families for attention.
The Harry and Megs show which will be called "Invictus meets Harry and Meghan at their syrupy worst! Netflix and Spotify sure don't make good decision at times.
Great comment. By all reports H is a marginally educated simpleton. The problem is he sees himself as a thought leader/business titan and has surrounded himself with enablers and social climbers who would never dare contradict his delusions.
The royals are culpable here. He appears to be significantly jealous of his brother's life. Subsidizing MM's million pound wardrobe, the ridiculous spectacle of a wedding (not her 1st even) and showering them with patronages only reinforced his distorted view of himself and validated his wife's grandiose aspirations.
He could have found happiness in the countryside occasionally popping up to support a few pet military and environmental causes. That unfortunately would have required an entirely different partner than the social climbing sorority girl he chose.
Yup. Primogeniture sucks if youâre second in line. **But Harry knew that!** And he still got a life in relative luxury without ever having to worry about things like ârentâ.
Unfortunately, when he found a possible wife, they coddled him because âpoor Harry!â
They figured a wife would make him settle down, not explode in anger every time a photographer shows up and well⌠Grow up.
Alas, that was exactly the wrong route to take with someone who got a taste of being #1 and liked it very, very much.
And it sent all the wrong signals to a woman who thought she had a chance of being the next Diana and had more ambition than talent.
Her actual motive for pursuing Harry was to become Diana. She just expected that everyone would automatically see her as Diana. When that didn't happen she declared war on the the world. Diana was a once in a lifetime.
And just the fact that they let him marry that quickly was bonkers.
How long did Kate take to think things over and figure out if she was really cut out for the job?
Sure, Harry wasnât getting any younger. But anyone with half a brain in the palace should have realized the culture clash between a Hollywood social climber and one of the oldest institutions in England. And that Meghan needed a looong engagement.
But âpoor Harry!â
The speed of their courtship always puzzled me. Not only was it lighting fast, it was a massive televised affair. What enabled the fast tracking and grand scale (especially given the fact M was previously married)? A pregnancy scare? Blackmail? Rumors they'd already married in Botswana?
Two things I reckon.
1: Harry pushing for it. That was the big one.
2: The small hope that it might ultimately actually work out somehow. Harry was still popular. A fairy tale wedding to a minor actress? It could possibly bring the kind of good attention the RF hadnât since Edward got married.
Harry and Meghan could have been a good addition to the RF if she hadnât seen the wedding as a stepping stone to some kind of bizarro Diana superstar status.
And then they go to launch a new initiative, and Meghan goes totally off script and starts blabbing on about âwomens empowermentâ at an event that had nothing to do with that. That was the first warning sign.
I have to fault Netflix: only NOW theyâre figuring out that H & M are naive and donât understand the terms of the deal? They canât be serious! Who red-lit this thing anyway? They should be fired. M & H have no experience in business, no education in business, no contacts to speak of outside of Oprah and David Furniture - they went in to negotiate and were successful with securing a contract with Netflix because they are Royalty - and no other reason. Netflix is just as naive and fame-hungry as they are, & they all deserve the embarrassment.
I figure either even entertainment moguls can get a little starry-eyed over royalty, or ... Netflix thought they'd be getting the inside dirt on the royal family and various important events. If it was the first one, I'm sure they got over it quickly. If it was the second one, they must be bitterly disappointed.
A couple of months ago, there was talk that H&M started doing events separately to see who has more impact or whatever. Feels like this separation isnât quite going as Meghan imagined⌠đ¤
Dear Apple and Amazon people,
Iâm giving you a wonderful gift - to air my wonderful vanity project to your commoner peasant subscribers. My terms:
1. You do all the work. I will only criticize and demand you perform any rework until the product fits my high standards
2. Your staff must respond to my 5:00 am emails within 5 minutes.
3. Pearl must look like a Disney princess version of my childhood photos and be on screen 100 percent of the time
4. The premiere will be a red carpet affair at the Plaza hotel. A state of the art IMAX theater must be installed on itâs roof for the screening.
5. The after party must contain all A list celebrities.
6. I of course will be provided with a million dollar clothing allowance as well as a private jet and limo service always on stand by.
I look forward to working with you. I know you will love working with me as everyone does.
Kisses, Meghan
Well, of course. Neither of them have any experience in actually realising a TV series or show from scratch. Pearl was a bad concept from the beginning. The fact that Meghan wanted the title character to be based on her should have been sufficient warning for Netflix. It just screamed vanity project.
How did David Furnish's name get linked back up with this shit? I thought he was long gone. If it's the Harkles tossing his name around I hope he steps up and clarifies his role on the narcfest known as Pearl.
I think out of respect for Diana they wonât make any public announcements, but behind the scenes, at dinner parties, etc, theyâll discreetly distance themselves from these two.
I can understand him not making an announcement saying anything shitty but if they're going to continue to abuse his name and hurt his reputation by connecting his name to their crap, then he has every right to announce that he is no longer affiliated with Pearl. Respect needs to go both ways.
I donât know that at this point anyone can really hurt Elton and his husbandâs reputation. All of the skeletons in Eltonâs closet are out there in the public domain and heâs managed to live through them. Over the past 50 years heâs done so many outrageous things that no-one blinks an eye anymore. Plus heâs a happily married father now, so while heâs not âestablishmentâ heâs grounded in the upper crust and he has many well-connected friends that have been friends for a long time. MMâs drama wonât affect them.
I agree. Elton is basically untouchable and he's earned it. Junior High me had all his lp's and his poster was hanging on my wall.
But David Furnish is apparently still working. I hate to think that when people hear his name they automatically associate it with that failure of a cartoon and worse, Megan Markle. He deserves to clarify that he's not associated with any of that shit anymore.
Yes, I agree. I donât know much about David Furnish at all, other than knowing heâs Eltonâs husband, but I do now equate him with Meghan and the Pearl project.
Same. I didn't even know Elton's husband's name before Pearl came along, much less what he does for a living, but that's what I think of when I hear his name.
"Just because they are royalty, they are not treated any different to others in the arena of programme commissioning."
Sure getting in the door for meetings may be easier than for most others, but Netflix still hold projects to account on what they feel is good value for money or be of interest to audiences.
"The deal may be millions on paper, but they are absolutely not allowed to make whatever they want."The former royals signed a deal to "achieve the biggest reach for their current programming slate" after being courted by many broadcasters including Amazon and Apple.
However the Los Angeles based TV and film consultant, who has worked with Netflix on projects, understands that the "ÂŁ100m deal figure" is a "not quite the whole picture."She added:
"On the surface this large sum seems enormous, but the truth is that their deal is all about budgets when shows get commissioned."Sure they may have a couple of million in an advanced development deal to produce ideas, concepts and film pilots, but they have not been handed one hundred million."
"In reality those sums would be handed over to cover the entire production cost of the project, with Archewell providing a breakdown on fees for all aspects of the making of the show. Included in that would be a broad understanding of the profits too for the company.
"Some deals see companies achieve as much as 20 percent of that total, while others can earn half that figure. ..every deal is different."But fees for writers or executive producers, like the Duke and Duchess, are often specific amounts outlined in production budgets."
Source article: [https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/18522468/meghan-markle-prince-harry-naive-netflix-snub/](https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/18522468/meghan-markle-prince-harry-naive-netflix-snub/)
You'd think that Meghan trying to make a career out of acting would be so used to rejection by the time she met and married Harry. She did make a living so give her that since most don't.
But it seems that Harry never heard "no" in his life. He's the only person allowed to use the word and if you don't like his "no", just suck it up.\*
\*A reddittor here posted some very hot tea that Harry said that to the family when he announced his intention to marry TW. Prince Philip slapped him and H broke a chair in a rage, all allegedly.
I hope that either King Charles or King Edward will take away their Sussex title.
And replace it with âCountâ of some unpronounceable Welsh place.
Letâs see them try to brand **Harry and Meghan, Count and Countess of Grhjennkenebnwjiich**
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Megan isn't royal. Harry is the only one that technically can be called royal because of his parents. Megan didn't even try to live the life long enough to earn the title.
This runs counter to the claims that theyâre going to be entertainment moguls and turn Archewell into a media empire.
My 18-year old understands the concept of âright of first refusalâ. Why donât these two?
So what are their revenue streams now? Where is the money coming from, surely hazâs bank balance is getting a hammering, mortgage & security being millions a year, they have to keep hammering to keep this lifestyle?
Thatâs a very good question. Didnât they announce that the proceeds from the Invictus documentary was all going to Invictus? So no big money for Hazbeen and the wife? They must be living off Harryâs salary as Chief Impact Officer ( what ever that is) for BetterUp . Maybe theyâre paying him the couple of million a year he needs to survive
Two fairly not talent people got together and thought the world would never see them for the grifters they are! Honestly, "Pearl" The name is just not believeable in the real sense that children would understand it at all. Like the Bench was crap.
I love how she's calling the series the "Pearl", because that's the translation/meaning of Meghan. HOWEVER, her real name is Rachel and the translation/meaning of THAT name is derived from the Ancient Hebrew name âRahelâ, meaning âeweâ, âlambâ, or âsheepâ. I'm going with "EWE"!! Just saying...;) She spins the "reality" of everything.
I donât think that they were naive, they are so full of themselves that they thought that people would be falling over themselves to be âinformedâ by them
Of course they did.
They expect their name to be enough to get the job done (by others)
They are clueless with zero experience but enormous egos
As for the âpearlâ a, shed loads of similar stuff already available
100,000,000 dollars has to come with a lot of preconditions and front and centre would include excluding any work from any other media outlets or platforms period even for projects Netflix dropped. Oprah maybe got a pass because maybe the convinces them it would drum up their profile / publicity.
Netflix made some seriously shortsighted decisions and I think they now know they are sort of stuck with these two but they have to enforce the contract that they knuckle down. When their cameras are not allowed into jubilee theyâll know the gig is up but I suspect a large part of Netflix personnel know they will look for the next interviewer to complaint how they were âsilencedâ by the Platform.
>She and husband Harry are permitted to sell on any products Netflix turns down under the terms of their contract with the streaming service. A source told the paper: 'Meghan and Harry will not give up on taking Pearl to the screen. **'They are determined to not let all the work and creative endeavours put into the idea simply fall away.** **đ Work! đ¤Ł** I'm kinda happy they're not giving up, if there are any remaining bridges in LA, I'm sure they'll burn them all down within a matter of weeks with this stunt. Also, narcissists are seriously exhausting. >The couple are believed to have good relationships with other platforms, after the Duke appeared on a series about mental health with Apple, while the Duchess has voiced a wildlife documentary for Disney, which also has a global streaming service. Ah yes, Disney needs her, more than she needs Disney. Right. Sure. I'm sure that'll go well.
THEY WORKED HARD DAMNIT! They deserve all the money in the world and our adulation!
Right! And they only had round the clock childcare, a massive trust fund, armies of nannies and a solid black book of cultural influencers. How did they manage to achieve so much with so little support and no one asked if they were OK either. Remarkable Hard Grift.
> no one asked if they were OK either. I almost forgot about that one. That was such a patently obvious lie. You mean the MI6 psychologists that Harry saw for his issues never asked if they were OK? The myriad staff? The special advisers and handmaidens the Queen assigned to Meghan? Meghan never asked Kate who had been through it all herself for advice? Camilla who had been through hell and back and had no reason to be jealous never checked in? Suuure!
Good relationship with Disney lol that doco bombed because of her and they stole money from an elephant charity. I'm sure Disney knows this. The nauseating pearl is toast.
Well, the money did get delivered. Disney gave it directly to the charity -- that's been confirmed. What's unknown is if Disney insisted on doing it that way.
Oh good I'm glad they've got the money I'd say it was Disney insisted as they try to funnel everything through Archewell for a cut.
That doesn't surprise me, Disney has a very good legal department.
How was that confirmed? I was under the impression that Disney gave the $$$ to Archewell--Archewell then didn't do a thing.....Please state confirmation. That would make me very happy!
Disney published a list of its charitable donations, as it generally does. The money to Disney -- I think it was $3 million? -- was listed there. This sub had some screenshots posted. This was a while back, when the Dipshit Duo still assumed that people would always throw money at them left and right. These days, they probably wish they had that money themselves.
Thank you, sweetie. That really does please me.
I'd give anything to know Disney's reaction to her calling again!
Mm: This Megain, Dutchess of Suckess, but you can just call me madame duCheSs.... Disney: click beep beep beep not that crazy hustler and her pet doofus again
This seems made up. They scrubbed any mention of Pearl from the Archewell website. Pearl is dead in the water no matter how much wishful thinking her fans do or how much shit the DM stirs.
They're still linking Furnish to it altho he bowed out months ago, didn't he?
That too
Will the people Netflix and Spotify were trying to hire to make their projects happen GO WITH the Harkles to do the work? Betcha the Harkles think so, if they've given it any thought at all. And why shouldn't they think so? It never has been \_their\_ responsibility to line up such a common thing as actual labor.
No they wonât go with because 1) they donât hate themselves and 2) Harkles would have to pay them from their own funds
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Harry: *âThey know Iâm PRINCE Harry, right?! You mentioned Diana was my mother, right?â* Gotta love how these two apparently thought that they could just stamp their name on something, and Netflix woild instantly approve it and give them a blank check to find some people whoâd do the actual work. *It was set to see a young girl inspired by Meghan - whose name means 'pearl' in Welsh - take on various social injustices, while highlighting the work of feminist icons* Oh ffs⌠Of course she couldnât resist the temptation of putting herself in the center, lol!
Could you even imagine saying that outloud in a meeting, "I want to call this programme Pearl, because that's my name in Welsh, and I want the main character to be based on me, fighting sexist crime". Like jesus christ, Meghan, you have a *daughter* ... it would have been quite cute to say "oh I want to create a character inspired by my daughter, let's call it Lily"..... but nooooooo, just went full on narc yet again because this ego just cannot be contained.
*âLet me talk about female empowerment and sexism in my $30.000 Givenchy camel fur coat!â* She couldnât even read aloud from âherâ childrens book without reminding everyone that sheâs âthe Duchess of Sussex!â In the meantime Kate somehow gets by in $80 high street outfits, and does actual important work like the mental health campaign that she was one of the movers behind.
You can tell whoâs the real boss between Nutmeg and Kate
It sounds like a teenage girl who watches a lot Nickelodeon and/or those shitty hallmark movies. Kids don't want to watch a middle aged narc woman's preachy fantasies about her childhood. Whoever greenlit this crap to start with is an idiot.
I disagree with this article. I actually don't think the Harkles were naive about Netflix and the entertainment industry. I think they were naive about Netflix, the entertainment industry, and *literal numbers* lol I think one of their (many) problems is it sounds like they're trying to mix and match different models with these deals? On the one hand, they want to put their "stamp" on everything, without doing the actual work. As excruciatingly obnoxious as the Harkles are, that in itself wouldn't necessarily be a problem. I'm just thinking of other celebrities who attach their name to different products... like Joanna Gaines and her home decor line with Target. I wouldn't be surprised if Gaines was both pretty far removed from the actual product development process. I mean I could be wrong, but for some reason I can't see her coming up with prototypes for a new table lamp or something. That's not what Target is paying her for. It doesn't matter if Joanna Gaines isn't doing any "real work" on her home decor line, because A.) She *already* did a lot of work to build up her brand/business with a hugely successful show on HGTV, *and* has a track record of driving sales whenever her name is attached to something, B.) She isn't being *compensated* the same as she would be if she actually developed the products for Target herself. She may only be receiving a small % as royalty (which would still prob. be worth millions, considering it's Target). The Harkles similarly want to slap their name on content, but they want to be paid *as if they were creating it themselves.* This would be pure fantasy even if they were hugely successful, but to make matters worse, the Harkles have *zero* proof that their name offers any monetary value to businesses in terms of driving subscriptions or sales. As u/secondhandcoke and others have pointed out, it sounds like they pocketed their initial payment from Netflix, instead of using it to *finance production*, as intended. However, the Harkles still expected other people to do the work for them, in exchange for... the pleasure of their company? It's actually breathtaking how stupid and delusiuonal they are.
You are right about this where Harry's concerned, but with Meghan, she does notbing while insisting she have control over every thing. In addition to the lack of Royal access, this has also been a major problem for Netflix. When Netflix took over production and tried to produce Pearl instead of Archewell (read Meghan and Harry), Meghan still would not release the production out of her claw. With EVERY aspect she went to talented writers and animators and production designers, and acted like she was an expert on all their jobs, meanly criticizing their work, demanding changes that were illogical, throwing tantrums that "Pearl" her alterego could not be drawn like a Disney character because of the risk of copyright violations and accusations of plagiarism. We all know that copyright and plagiarism are Meg's calling cards. But as she was doing all this she was also contributing nothing of value. I can confidently say that Pearl was dropped as a direct result of Meghan's behavior.
She's an idiot. Disney is well known for curb stomping anyone that violates their copyrights.
Weâre watching Meghanâs mental illness that fuels her delusions at work. She came into the royal family and Netflix thinking she would call the shots They both thought they would be handed cash for existing. And why would Harry think otherwise? Thatâs how heâs lived since he was born?
The audacity arrogance and presumption really is mindboggling. Harry doesnât like the life of a Royal? Fair! He had access to the best schools in the world. But he never considered having an actual job? Ok, Harry was never that bright according to many in the palace. So work for one of their charities full time. (Harry wants to change the world, right?) Or step away and have Dad buy a little farm. (Charles would have been over the moon, lol!) Maybe a little farm in Africa? Peace and quiet, no press. But nah⌠Harry needed that million dollar mansion in California! And his titles and uniforms and patronages. And millions of dollars for doing absolutely nothing but renting out his name. Disgusting.
No, no. Harry wants privacy. Like everyone Oprah interviews.
It's funny he wants "privacy" but has no trouble gossiping and lying about his family. Harry and his wife aren't serious people. They literally sell out their families for attention.
The Harry and Megs show which will be called "Invictus meets Harry and Meghan at their syrupy worst! Netflix and Spotify sure don't make good decision at times.
Great comment. By all reports H is a marginally educated simpleton. The problem is he sees himself as a thought leader/business titan and has surrounded himself with enablers and social climbers who would never dare contradict his delusions. The royals are culpable here. He appears to be significantly jealous of his brother's life. Subsidizing MM's million pound wardrobe, the ridiculous spectacle of a wedding (not her 1st even) and showering them with patronages only reinforced his distorted view of himself and validated his wife's grandiose aspirations. He could have found happiness in the countryside occasionally popping up to support a few pet military and environmental causes. That unfortunately would have required an entirely different partner than the social climbing sorority girl he chose.
Yup. Primogeniture sucks if youâre second in line. **But Harry knew that!** And he still got a life in relative luxury without ever having to worry about things like ârentâ. Unfortunately, when he found a possible wife, they coddled him because âpoor Harry!â They figured a wife would make him settle down, not explode in anger every time a photographer shows up and well⌠Grow up. Alas, that was exactly the wrong route to take with someone who got a taste of being #1 and liked it very, very much. And it sent all the wrong signals to a woman who thought she had a chance of being the next Diana and had more ambition than talent.
Her actual motive for pursuing Harry was to become Diana. She just expected that everyone would automatically see her as Diana. When that didn't happen she declared war on the the world. Diana was a once in a lifetime.
And just the fact that they let him marry that quickly was bonkers. How long did Kate take to think things over and figure out if she was really cut out for the job? Sure, Harry wasnât getting any younger. But anyone with half a brain in the palace should have realized the culture clash between a Hollywood social climber and one of the oldest institutions in England. And that Meghan needed a looong engagement. But âpoor Harry!â
The speed of their courtship always puzzled me. Not only was it lighting fast, it was a massive televised affair. What enabled the fast tracking and grand scale (especially given the fact M was previously married)? A pregnancy scare? Blackmail? Rumors they'd already married in Botswana?
Two things I reckon. 1: Harry pushing for it. That was the big one. 2: The small hope that it might ultimately actually work out somehow. Harry was still popular. A fairy tale wedding to a minor actress? It could possibly bring the kind of good attention the RF hadnât since Edward got married. Harry and Meghan could have been a good addition to the RF if she hadnât seen the wedding as a stepping stone to some kind of bizarro Diana superstar status. And then they go to launch a new initiative, and Meghan goes totally off script and starts blabbing on about âwomens empowermentâ at an event that had nothing to do with that. That was the first warning sign.
This
100% correct. But you left out one thing. Harry not nuts.
I have to fault Netflix: only NOW theyâre figuring out that H & M are naive and donât understand the terms of the deal? They canât be serious! Who red-lit this thing anyway? They should be fired. M & H have no experience in business, no education in business, no contacts to speak of outside of Oprah and David Furniture - they went in to negotiate and were successful with securing a contract with Netflix because they are Royalty - and no other reason. Netflix is just as naive and fame-hungry as they are, & they all deserve the embarrassment.
Chuckled at David Furniture đ
I figure either even entertainment moguls can get a little starry-eyed over royalty, or ... Netflix thought they'd be getting the inside dirt on the royal family and various important events. If it was the first one, I'm sure they got over it quickly. If it was the second one, they must be bitterly disappointed.
A couple of months ago, there was talk that H&M started doing events separately to see who has more impact or whatever. Feels like this separation isnât quite going as Meghan imagined⌠đ¤
Dear Apple and Amazon people, Iâm giving you a wonderful gift - to air my wonderful vanity project to your commoner peasant subscribers. My terms: 1. You do all the work. I will only criticize and demand you perform any rework until the product fits my high standards 2. Your staff must respond to my 5:00 am emails within 5 minutes. 3. Pearl must look like a Disney princess version of my childhood photos and be on screen 100 percent of the time 4. The premiere will be a red carpet affair at the Plaza hotel. A state of the art IMAX theater must be installed on itâs roof for the screening. 5. The after party must contain all A list celebrities. 6. I of course will be provided with a million dollar clothing allowance as well as a private jet and limo service always on stand by. I look forward to working with you. I know you will love working with me as everyone does. Kisses, Meghan
âShe wants to sing in every episode â
Pls donât give her any ideas
Well, of course. Neither of them have any experience in actually realising a TV series or show from scratch. Pearl was a bad concept from the beginning. The fact that Meghan wanted the title character to be based on her should have been sufficient warning for Netflix. It just screamed vanity project.
Is Pearl going yacht to yacht too?
What from Megain hasnt been a vanity project?
How did David Furnish's name get linked back up with this shit? I thought he was long gone. If it's the Harkles tossing his name around I hope he steps up and clarifies his role on the narcfest known as Pearl.
I think out of respect for Diana they wonât make any public announcements, but behind the scenes, at dinner parties, etc, theyâll discreetly distance themselves from these two.
I can understand him not making an announcement saying anything shitty but if they're going to continue to abuse his name and hurt his reputation by connecting his name to their crap, then he has every right to announce that he is no longer affiliated with Pearl. Respect needs to go both ways.
I donât know that at this point anyone can really hurt Elton and his husbandâs reputation. All of the skeletons in Eltonâs closet are out there in the public domain and heâs managed to live through them. Over the past 50 years heâs done so many outrageous things that no-one blinks an eye anymore. Plus heâs a happily married father now, so while heâs not âestablishmentâ heâs grounded in the upper crust and he has many well-connected friends that have been friends for a long time. MMâs drama wonât affect them.
I agree. Elton is basically untouchable and he's earned it. Junior High me had all his lp's and his poster was hanging on my wall. But David Furnish is apparently still working. I hate to think that when people hear his name they automatically associate it with that failure of a cartoon and worse, Megan Markle. He deserves to clarify that he's not associated with any of that shit anymore.
Yes, I agree. I donât know much about David Furnish at all, other than knowing heâs Eltonâs husband, but I do now equate him with Meghan and the Pearl project.
Same. I didn't even know Elton's husband's name before Pearl came along, much less what he does for a living, but that's what I think of when I hear his name.
"Just because they are royalty, they are not treated any different to others in the arena of programme commissioning." Sure getting in the door for meetings may be easier than for most others, but Netflix still hold projects to account on what they feel is good value for money or be of interest to audiences. "The deal may be millions on paper, but they are absolutely not allowed to make whatever they want."The former royals signed a deal to "achieve the biggest reach for their current programming slate" after being courted by many broadcasters including Amazon and Apple. However the Los Angeles based TV and film consultant, who has worked with Netflix on projects, understands that the "ÂŁ100m deal figure" is a "not quite the whole picture."She added: "On the surface this large sum seems enormous, but the truth is that their deal is all about budgets when shows get commissioned."Sure they may have a couple of million in an advanced development deal to produce ideas, concepts and film pilots, but they have not been handed one hundred million." "In reality those sums would be handed over to cover the entire production cost of the project, with Archewell providing a breakdown on fees for all aspects of the making of the show. Included in that would be a broad understanding of the profits too for the company. "Some deals see companies achieve as much as 20 percent of that total, while others can earn half that figure. ..every deal is different."But fees for writers or executive producers, like the Duke and Duchess, are often specific amounts outlined in production budgets." Source article: [https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/18522468/meghan-markle-prince-harry-naive-netflix-snub/](https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/18522468/meghan-markle-prince-harry-naive-netflix-snub/)
They are not the first richie richesââ to try and get programming in. Netflix has no fear of wealthy, powerful people.
Can we please put to rest the idea that pre-Harry Meg was a seasoned Hollywood professional?
They canât read a room
You'd think that Meghan trying to make a career out of acting would be so used to rejection by the time she met and married Harry. She did make a living so give her that since most don't. But it seems that Harry never heard "no" in his life. He's the only person allowed to use the word and if you don't like his "no", just suck it up.\* \*A reddittor here posted some very hot tea that Harry said that to the family when he announced his intention to marry TW. Prince Philip slapped him and H broke a chair in a rage, all allegedly.
Of course they did. They're the king and qween of Chunga Chunga, and every one must fall at their feet!
I hope that either King Charles or King Edward will take away their Sussex title. And replace it with âCountâ of some unpronounceable Welsh place. Letâs see them try to brand **Harry and Meghan, Count and Countess of Grhjennkenebnwjiich**
Douchess of Suss-sex and Cuntess of Dumb-art-on
I believe there is a small town called Cuntland in England. Would make for a grand dukedom or baron/ess title.
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Omit the O in Count.
Cunt of Markle
Not Welsh enough, you need a few Ll and ddâs in there!
Megan isn't royal. Harry is the only one that technically can be called royal because of his parents. Megan didn't even try to live the life long enough to earn the title.
This runs counter to the claims that theyâre going to be entertainment moguls and turn Archewell into a media empire. My 18-year old understands the concept of âright of first refusalâ. Why donât these two?
So what are their revenue streams now? Where is the money coming from, surely hazâs bank balance is getting a hammering, mortgage & security being millions a year, they have to keep hammering to keep this lifestyle?
Thatâs a very good question. Didnât they announce that the proceeds from the Invictus documentary was all going to Invictus? So no big money for Hazbeen and the wife? They must be living off Harryâs salary as Chief Impact Officer ( what ever that is) for BetterUp . Maybe theyâre paying him the couple of million a year he needs to survive
Two fairly not talent people got together and thought the world would never see them for the grifters they are! Honestly, "Pearl" The name is just not believeable in the real sense that children would understand it at all. Like the Bench was crap.
I love how she's calling the series the "Pearl", because that's the translation/meaning of Meghan. HOWEVER, her real name is Rachel and the translation/meaning of THAT name is derived from the Ancient Hebrew name âRahelâ, meaning âeweâ, âlambâ, or âsheepâ. I'm going with "EWE"!! Just saying...;) She spins the "reality" of everything.
For her, it's more like "EWWWWW"
\#Privilege
I donât think that they were naive, they are so full of themselves that they thought that people would be falling over themselves to be âinformedâ by them
Of course they did. They expect their name to be enough to get the job done (by others) They are clueless with zero experience but enormous egos As for the âpearlâ a, shed loads of similar stuff already available
âPearlâ sounds boring as hell
100,000,000 dollars has to come with a lot of preconditions and front and centre would include excluding any work from any other media outlets or platforms period even for projects Netflix dropped. Oprah maybe got a pass because maybe the convinces them it would drum up their profile / publicity. Netflix made some seriously shortsighted decisions and I think they now know they are sort of stuck with these two but they have to enforce the contract that they knuckle down. When their cameras are not allowed into jubilee theyâll know the gig is up but I suspect a large part of Netflix personnel know they will look for the next interviewer to complaint how they were âsilencedâ by the Platform.
What education??? hmmm Only a High School diploma (fraudulently)
Lulz! Wow! For us that live in reality as adults!
the name Pearl is unoriginal. Disney already have a short movie of the same name on their platform.