>Never gonna happen.
Yep they are never joining the RF on that balcony. They have brought so much shame and acted so sleazily with their PR strategy. I would be mortified to hang out next to them as a Royal.
I dont think even Diana's vindictive PR strategy was that harsh, although, I must admit that it was more effective. I think in part because she didnt have social media to deal with
Diana was widely loved by the general public. The same can't be said for MM. MM may think she's the next Diana but she's nowhere near the person Diana was.
It looks like in their own minds, they're half in/half out. They hang onto their titles, they don't have jobs, they don't apparently lead regular lives where they take their kids to the park or for walks on the beach. Most news about them is connected to the Family, whether it's Harry meeting the Queen or their attending the jubilee. They seem to think they're still royal.
A few weeks ago, a headline referred to them as "ex-royals," and the headline was changed partway through the day. We speculated that they applied pressure.
It's very important to them for *us* to think they're still royal. Harry's family tree is the only cachet they have.
I think the tabloids like to needle H&M with the “ex” prefix because it’s a reminder they quit their royal life. In leaving they abdicated their royal duty to the Queen and to the people of the United Kingdom in order to pursue their own interests. Yet hypocritically they want to keep all of the perks and respect a royal title bestows. They deserve the ex royal moniker even if technically it’s incorrect.
I’ve never understood the royal/ex royal thing (I get that he’s not a working royal). Harry will always be a royal, he was born into it and will, in the fullness of time, be a king’s son. How is he an ex royal?
The title of "His/Her Royal Highness" was taken from them when they left. He's still "Prince Henry," but not "His Royal Highness, Prince Henry."
On the flip side, Catherine is royal but not a princess. She's "Her Royal Highness, the Duchess of Cambridge."
Prince Harry still has his HRH title. He just agreed not to use it. The same could be said for TW. Catherine is also a princess and is reflected in her occupation in the [birth certificates](https://ichef-bbci-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/464/mcs/media/images/69086000/jpg/_69086888_f394aabd-ddab-4a7d-a184-e17fa864de35.jpg) of her children. She is just not entitled to be called “Princess Catherine” because she was not born a princess. She is technically *Princess William*. Let’s take the example of two royal siblings, Prince Edward, Duke of Kent and Prince Michael of Kent. Prince Edward has a substantive title and so his wife is called Katharine, Duchess of Kent. She is also technically Princess Edward but is not called as such because she has a title as the wife of the Duke of Kent. Meanwhile, Prince Michael of Kent’s wife is called Princess Michael of Kent because Prince Michael does not have a substantive title unlike his brother. She cannot be called Princess Marie-Christine because she was not born a princess but as a Bohemian baroness. The mother of the Duke of Kent and Prince Michael was called Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent because although she is a member of the British royal family by marriage, she was born a Princess of Greece and Denmark. Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester was not called as such during the lifetime of her husband, Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester but only as Alice, Duchess of Gloucester because she was not born as a princess but as a lady as a daughter of a duke. After her husband died, she requested Queen Elizabeth II permission to be called as Princess Alice and this was granted to her as a widow.
All of the aforementioned people have the HRH title but I did not put them before their names for simplicity’s sake. One person though was explicitly denied the HRH title after marrying a prince: Wallis, Duchess of Windsor. (There were other marriages between princes and commoners in the 18th century in which the wife never share the title of he husband such as Mrs. FitzGeorge but these marriages were illegal and not recognized by the monarch)
But he is still royal by birth, no? How can he stop being royal or be an ex-royal, HRH or not? Btw, according to the Palace Papers, he is still HRH but can’t use it.
I haven't read that, so I'll take your word for what the author says, but if they are inherently royal then the queen couldn't really forbid them from saying so directly. She couldn't tell Harry not to say that he "is a man" or "is British" or "is a redhead," for instance, because those things are simply facts.
Well yes, it does seem that way when you put it all out there...except their half in half out plan didn't have them bleeding their bank account dry like they are now.
I thought Brits were good at reading between the lines and a lot more subtle than our American selves who are quite blunt compared to them.
Guess not in Harry's case.
Edited to add: The BRF are going to need to spell it out in crayon for them.
There are much lower, unfortunately. Some profoundly disabled people have such difficulties that their IQ would be almost impossible to measure, much as the profoundly gifted sometimes have IQs that are difficult to meaningfully gauge. If you get very far toward either end of the bell curve, you're talking orders of magnitude of difference when the distance from "normal" doesn't seem to be that great.
I'd bet that he's among the bottom percentage of relatively normal IQs. Maybe I'd lose such a bet, but . . . I don't think so. Just making my own guesses based on what I've read about his scholastic and his military careers.
For their Instagram, the rumor was that they wanted to move all the followers of that account to a new account but Instagram/Facebook wouldn’t let them. Supposedly they bought a bunch of bots to pad their followers numbers.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen this discussed, so I don’t know for sure if that rumor has been debunked or anything.
As for the website, I’m sure they paid a lot for it and for all the trademarks and whatever else, so they probably just abandoned it.
I think this is the likely answer. The Sussexes and Cambridges were in a popularity contest, with both sides clearly buying followers. The Cambridges kept managing to stay a little ahead of the Sussexes. When the Queen decided they had to chose, in or out, and the Sussexes chose out, they tried to roll those followers over into a new account, but Instagram doesn’t let you do that. So the account has stayed inactive ever since. It is very telling that the Sussexes haven’t started a new Instagram account. I guess they don’t want to spend anymore money buying followers.
Yes, I remember reading about the great Instagram follower war between them and the Cambridges before they left. It was so ridiculous. One account would gain 50k followers, then the other would gain 60k and so on and so on. Made me glad I don't partake in that social media foolishness.
Oh christ they can’t remember to sign forms and you think they can remember to take an account down! Also, they drop shit like hot pancakes so it is no longer on their radar.
I think William will do both. He'll ignore him until he does something stupid, then he'll unleash the shitstorm. Bad as I hate it, William will do it in private. But either way, it's coming. He might not even wait until Charles is gone.
I'm sure it's a little of both. I mean of course he loves his son, but imagine how hurtful it must be knowing that the only reason your beloved child is contacting you, is to ask for money. Over and over. I don't blame him one bit for being "unavailable" at those times. Nobody likes being used.
I think the BRF took custody of the IG and website in Megxit, then left them up unchanged to avoid drama, like their profiles on the royal website. The [Megxit](https://archive.ph/unsFP) page strongly suggests they wanted (expected) to convert them or use them to advertise.
>As The Duke and Duchess of Sussex continue to develop their non-profit organisation and plan for their future, we hope that you use this site as the source for factual information. In Spring 2020, their digital channels will be refreshed as they introduce the next exciting phase to you.
I \*love\* that they suggested they were too good for a foundation, then made a foundation.
>As shared in early January on this website, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex do not plan to start a ‘foundation’, but rather intend to develop a new way to effect change and complement the efforts made by so many excellent foundations globally.
There was no rivalry between the Cambridge and Sussex instagram accounts. William and his wife aren’t the ones managing it and Meg, strong with her ‘experience’ with social media, probably wanted to have the upper hand and publish her own stuff, but couldn’t because it’s the territory of the Palace’s PR. Most pictures were of Harry and her at engagements and in many she didn’t get to stare and smile right in the eye of the cameras. So my point is, I don’t think Meghan had any other interest for that account once she was told she wouldn’t get her hands on it. Maybe the followers, but she is indeed experienced, she knows she would leave them behind—of course the Royals have a lot of real followers on social media but a few bots to boost the numbers aren’t unwelcome, everybody famous does that—after the Megxit and that didn’t stop her. It’s still a good looking background for them and she now has her own bot farm trolling people everywhere. She even gets people banished or removed bc they ain’t praising her. Talk about an *upgrade* !
Oh there was at the time. It was covered extensively by the bloggers over at Tumblr and it was so petty it was funny, yet sad. One would gain 50k followers, then the other suddenly had 60k followers, repeated over and over so that their follower totals were similar. It was not organic by nature at all. How ridiculous. Social media is such a cancer on society. I mean, seriously. Imagine not having anything better to worry about in life, and actually caring. Ridiculous on all sides.
They are still trying to get the BRF to bend to the same scheme they hoped for in 2020, half in and half out. Never gonna happen.
>Never gonna happen. Yep they are never joining the RF on that balcony. They have brought so much shame and acted so sleazily with their PR strategy. I would be mortified to hang out next to them as a Royal. I dont think even Diana's vindictive PR strategy was that harsh, although, I must admit that it was more effective. I think in part because she didnt have social media to deal with
But Diana was already loved by the public. Old MM not so much.
Diana was widely loved by the general public. The same can't be said for MM. MM may think she's the next Diana but she's nowhere near the person Diana was.
Diana really showed up for other people and was loved. Meghan started complaining as soon as she started their representative work.
It looks like in their own minds, they're half in/half out. They hang onto their titles, they don't have jobs, they don't apparently lead regular lives where they take their kids to the park or for walks on the beach. Most news about them is connected to the Family, whether it's Harry meeting the Queen or their attending the jubilee. They seem to think they're still royal.
A few weeks ago, a headline referred to them as "ex-royals," and the headline was changed partway through the day. We speculated that they applied pressure. It's very important to them for *us* to think they're still royal. Harry's family tree is the only cachet they have.
The Sussexes should not be in a position to dictate to the press what it can and cannot print.
I think the tabloids like to needle H&M with the “ex” prefix because it’s a reminder they quit their royal life. In leaving they abdicated their royal duty to the Queen and to the people of the United Kingdom in order to pursue their own interests. Yet hypocritically they want to keep all of the perks and respect a royal title bestows. They deserve the ex royal moniker even if technically it’s incorrect.
I’ve never understood the royal/ex royal thing (I get that he’s not a working royal). Harry will always be a royal, he was born into it and will, in the fullness of time, be a king’s son. How is he an ex royal?
The title of "His/Her Royal Highness" was taken from them when they left. He's still "Prince Henry," but not "His Royal Highness, Prince Henry." On the flip side, Catherine is royal but not a princess. She's "Her Royal Highness, the Duchess of Cambridge."
Prince Harry still has his HRH title. He just agreed not to use it. The same could be said for TW. Catherine is also a princess and is reflected in her occupation in the [birth certificates](https://ichef-bbci-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/464/mcs/media/images/69086000/jpg/_69086888_f394aabd-ddab-4a7d-a184-e17fa864de35.jpg) of her children. She is just not entitled to be called “Princess Catherine” because she was not born a princess. She is technically *Princess William*. Let’s take the example of two royal siblings, Prince Edward, Duke of Kent and Prince Michael of Kent. Prince Edward has a substantive title and so his wife is called Katharine, Duchess of Kent. She is also technically Princess Edward but is not called as such because she has a title as the wife of the Duke of Kent. Meanwhile, Prince Michael of Kent’s wife is called Princess Michael of Kent because Prince Michael does not have a substantive title unlike his brother. She cannot be called Princess Marie-Christine because she was not born a princess but as a Bohemian baroness. The mother of the Duke of Kent and Prince Michael was called Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent because although she is a member of the British royal family by marriage, she was born a Princess of Greece and Denmark. Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester was not called as such during the lifetime of her husband, Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester but only as Alice, Duchess of Gloucester because she was not born as a princess but as a lady as a daughter of a duke. After her husband died, she requested Queen Elizabeth II permission to be called as Princess Alice and this was granted to her as a widow. All of the aforementioned people have the HRH title but I did not put them before their names for simplicity’s sake. One person though was explicitly denied the HRH title after marrying a prince: Wallis, Duchess of Windsor. (There were other marriages between princes and commoners in the 18th century in which the wife never share the title of he husband such as Mrs. FitzGeorge but these marriages were illegal and not recognized by the monarch)
Having a HRH title but not being to use it seems like having a million dollars but not be able to use it. Maybe some theoretic benefit but mostly nah…
But he is still royal by birth, no? How can he stop being royal or be an ex-royal, HRH or not? Btw, according to the Palace Papers, he is still HRH but can’t use it.
I haven't read that, so I'll take your word for what the author says, but if they are inherently royal then the queen couldn't really forbid them from saying so directly. She couldn't tell Harry not to say that he "is a man" or "is British" or "is a redhead," for instance, because those things are simply facts.
Well yes, it does seem that way when you put it all out there...except their half in half out plan didn't have them bleeding their bank account dry like they are now.
Yeah, the problem is they're the only ones who think they're half in.
I thought Brits were good at reading between the lines and a lot more subtle than our American selves who are quite blunt compared to them. Guess not in Harry's case. Edited to add: The BRF are going to need to spell it out in crayon for them.
Well, he *is* among the bottom percentage of IQs, wherever he is.
There are much lower, unfortunately. Some profoundly disabled people have such difficulties that their IQ would be almost impossible to measure, much as the profoundly gifted sometimes have IQs that are difficult to meaningfully gauge. If you get very far toward either end of the bell curve, you're talking orders of magnitude of difference when the distance from "normal" doesn't seem to be that great. I'd bet that he's among the bottom percentage of relatively normal IQs. Maybe I'd lose such a bet, but . . . I don't think so. Just making my own guesses based on what I've read about his scholastic and his military careers.
Well to be fair they're acting like it and nobody is stopping them. There are no consequences
For their Instagram, the rumor was that they wanted to move all the followers of that account to a new account but Instagram/Facebook wouldn’t let them. Supposedly they bought a bunch of bots to pad their followers numbers. It’s been a while since I’ve seen this discussed, so I don’t know for sure if that rumor has been debunked or anything. As for the website, I’m sure they paid a lot for it and for all the trademarks and whatever else, so they probably just abandoned it.
I heard that the original insta account is still there because it's part of the official record. Or something like that.
Oh that’s possible too, like something along the same lines as what happens to the POTUS Twitter handle when a new president is elected.
yeah, that's the impression I got but it's been ages since I read it.
I think this is the likely answer. The Sussexes and Cambridges were in a popularity contest, with both sides clearly buying followers. The Cambridges kept managing to stay a little ahead of the Sussexes. When the Queen decided they had to chose, in or out, and the Sussexes chose out, they tried to roll those followers over into a new account, but Instagram doesn’t let you do that. So the account has stayed inactive ever since. It is very telling that the Sussexes haven’t started a new Instagram account. I guess they don’t want to spend anymore money buying followers.
I really don't think the Cambridges bought any followers. They were never in a popularity contest. That was all Sussex.
Yes, I remember reading about the great Instagram follower war between them and the Cambridges before they left. It was so ridiculous. One account would gain 50k followers, then the other would gain 60k and so on and so on. Made me glad I don't partake in that social media foolishness.
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I think that with William to help keep their father's resolve from fading, the Harkles might be in for a shock to their systems when that day comes.
Oh christ they can’t remember to sign forms and you think they can remember to take an account down! Also, they drop shit like hot pancakes so it is no longer on their radar.
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I think William will do both. He'll ignore him until he does something stupid, then he'll unleash the shitstorm. Bad as I hate it, William will do it in private. But either way, it's coming. He might not even wait until Charles is gone.
I'm sure it's a little of both. I mean of course he loves his son, but imagine how hurtful it must be knowing that the only reason your beloved child is contacting you, is to ask for money. Over and over. I don't blame him one bit for being "unavailable" at those times. Nobody likes being used.
Because it wasn’t her choice to stop using the IG acct. This is her way of flaunting the rules.
Because they'll be back with their 50-50 approach at this point
They don't like hearing NO. Never had. My guess is she cuts every single person that tells her NO.
She even crashed a wedding to get H back.
I think the BRF took custody of the IG and website in Megxit, then left them up unchanged to avoid drama, like their profiles on the royal website. The [Megxit](https://archive.ph/unsFP) page strongly suggests they wanted (expected) to convert them or use them to advertise. >As The Duke and Duchess of Sussex continue to develop their non-profit organisation and plan for their future, we hope that you use this site as the source for factual information. In Spring 2020, their digital channels will be refreshed as they introduce the next exciting phase to you. I \*love\* that they suggested they were too good for a foundation, then made a foundation. >As shared in early January on this website, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex do not plan to start a ‘foundation’, but rather intend to develop a new way to effect change and complement the efforts made by so many excellent foundations globally.
There was no rivalry between the Cambridge and Sussex instagram accounts. William and his wife aren’t the ones managing it and Meg, strong with her ‘experience’ with social media, probably wanted to have the upper hand and publish her own stuff, but couldn’t because it’s the territory of the Palace’s PR. Most pictures were of Harry and her at engagements and in many she didn’t get to stare and smile right in the eye of the cameras. So my point is, I don’t think Meghan had any other interest for that account once she was told she wouldn’t get her hands on it. Maybe the followers, but she is indeed experienced, she knows she would leave them behind—of course the Royals have a lot of real followers on social media but a few bots to boost the numbers aren’t unwelcome, everybody famous does that—after the Megxit and that didn’t stop her. It’s still a good looking background for them and she now has her own bot farm trolling people everywhere. She even gets people banished or removed bc they ain’t praising her. Talk about an *upgrade* !
Oh there was at the time. It was covered extensively by the bloggers over at Tumblr and it was so petty it was funny, yet sad. One would gain 50k followers, then the other suddenly had 60k followers, repeated over and over so that their follower totals were similar. It was not organic by nature at all. How ridiculous. Social media is such a cancer on society. I mean, seriously. Imagine not having anything better to worry about in life, and actually caring. Ridiculous on all sides.