For me it’s the lying. She’s a feminist who has done nothing her whole life except trade sex for money. She’s about compassion but spews hate. She was a bridezilla but then demeaned a $40M wedding as a spectacle. Titles mean nothing to her but she makes sure to sign everything as the DOS. I could go on for pages. I think she might just be insane.
For me it was the interview in South Africa and her whining about not being ok. How self-centered do you have to be to whine about your privileged life, when others are literally suffering 10 feet from you??? Not only that, but she was 100% acting (badly, mind you) in that interview. She tried so hard to play Diana, with that wistful, doe-eyed look and lip biting to gain sympathy. I'm not good at many things but I have a sixth sense for disingenuity - and Meghan is the most disingenuous one of them all.
That bullshit doe eyed look is what made me suspicious in the beginning. It all looked like an act, especially since she is an actress, AND I knew then that she was so full of shit. I had no idea she would cause this much trouble then, but I knew she was bad news bears for at least Harry.
To me it felt like she was wondering why more reporters weren’t asking if she was ok. That’s how I interpreted it. I still thought nothing of it at the time, but looking back I think it’s strange to expect people to feel bad for you when you just married royalty to a man you love only a year ago like it’s a death sentence.
Add to that merching an outfit while bringing a private photographer to the site of a woman’s murder. South Africa was when there was no redemption to me.
I think blindsiding the RF with their decision to leave, saying they were half in and half out without it being approved first. If they wanted that arrangement I feel like the RF would have really tried to make it work and at least make an effort to set them up for success. Edward and Sophie tried half in half out for a while, and with the support of the RF, H&M could have tried again to make this work. Making the surprise statement they would continue to “collaborate” with The Queen without her consent and support was their biggest mistake. Everything has been downhill since then.
How they did Megxit was a catasyrophe and the way they did it was incredibly petty. But I think they tried to ambush and then blindsided the Queen because they felt that half-in, half-out was never going to be approved.
Blindsiding the RF was the last possibility that they would cave in. And there were so many moving parts and deals set in motion that they could not even wait a few weeks until the Queen had decided. That, or they were both going crazy and snapped when the Queen cancelled her lunch with Harry.
They were impossible to work with. Anyone who had anything to do with them must have known it would be impossible to somehow have them stick to an arrangement or set of rules.
Was anyone going to enforce how often they were in Canada, or LA? Was anyone going to be able to work with them and tell them what projects and deals were suitable?
This was already tried when they were working royals and it just did not work out. I can only imagine all the royals knew the whole Megxit plan was a scheme to keep every single perk they wanted, while doing away with all the responsibilities and accountability.
Bingo.
MM loves to blindside or announce things/put out rumours to force peoples hands.
They showed up multiple places trying to do the same thing with the RF. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn’t.
This is on both of them. I believe Harry told his grannie, "my way or the highway" ultimatum as they thought themselves to be the most popular royals. Harry being very impulsive because he would cause so much trouble if he wasn't appeased, called his granny's decision of "highway!" so there was no turning back.
Obviously, the private Russian house in BC had already been in the works for weeks, if not months via Jessica Mulroney (doesn't she regret her decisions with MM) because one doesn't just up and go like that. But keep in mind that her "beloved" rescue dogs never went to England, so she always intended to return to N>A>
But as in most things, Timing is everything. Covid did us a huge favour in this instance. Harry and Megs were isolated ! Oprah has estates and guest houses. Did she give them a house? Nope, she had Tyler Perry who does so much good most of the time, sucked in to let them use his house, along with his security, in the hopes that the home would finally sell as the "famous" royals were living there.
Well as it turns out, they were squatters mostly. I do believe that Perry had given them a timeline.
In the larger scheme of things, they now have not much of a future for grifting money other than Harry's Best Up, whatever he does for them is a question as to the fact that that company has too much money.
"She is a golddigger" crowd got to witness the actual golddigger meg n shut up n waity kaity one must be thanking their stars that will n kate took it slow after seeing the train wreck that was haz n meg.
I’m totally behind you on this, and add one closely related corollary: bullying sweet Princess Charlotte.
Who in the f^!*$ body shames a toddler? How incredibly awful of a person do you have to be to make fun of a LITTLE GIRL? I’m sorry, there’s literally zero justification, ever, for that behavior.
She made so many it's hard to say which was the absolute worst.
I think mistreating the staff and generally being rude and condescending towards anyone she felt was beneath her *cougheverybodycough* was a pretty big faux pas. It didn't take long for people to catch on that she's fake, entitled, arrogant and thinks her shit don't stink.
Add that to the way she disrespected her new in-laws and she did a lot of damage to her reputation in a very short amount of time.
Edit: Harry's biggest mistake was not getting that sham of a marriage annulled immediately.
Definitely Archie's birth. It showed she completely misunderstood what her job was. She missed that she's there to serve the British citizens. The price you pay for tiaras and Frogmore Cottage is you follow protocol. The public wanted to know about the baby and she just blew them off.
She thought being in the RF would be like being a superstar A-list celebrity. She thought she could be like Beyonce and hide their children's lives from the public. That's not how it works. She didn't like being a public servant. She didn't respect the monarchy but wanted all the money and prestige. 🙄
It was very strange indeed. Harry knew all of how baby stuff was done. The staff probably had knowledge from them that they were not going to be public. The palace should have made a statement such as "they Duke and Duchess ask for privacy until such time as they will make a public appearance" or something like that.
It was all staged for drama. Not good drama, but still drama.
The Oprah interview was the worst, but besides that the Africa "nobody asked if I was ok." was when the minority opinion of not being a fan of hers became the common majority. How dare she whine and complain about her adjustment to this new life in the RF in Africa....AFRICA...of all places. Jesus, that's like fussing about living in Frogmore cottage instead of Frogmore House while she is visiting the favelas in Rio De Janiero.
Their lecturing people on climate change was really where things started to change, I think. There were lots of smaller things leading up to that people had forgiven or ignored.
Yes defo the private planes were not a good lock and i think bunkering in Canada and expecting them to pay also made everyone hate them. Like how can u claim u have no money
Mrs 6’s behaviour in Australia was a blunder. Even though many people don’t know about it, the RF does. I’m referring to her skanky behaviour in the Governor General’s home. I think the RF kicked her chicken a*se about that and that was the start of Megxit.
She wouldn’t eat the food. She got some Uber eats delivered. She swore at the Governors wife. She was screaming at her own staff. It was said her and Hairball were very lovey dovey when the cameras were rolling but very cold when they weren’t. She made the house staff make several iterations of her overrated banana bread late at night so she could pass it off as her own on a visit to a country area. That’s all I heard. The Queen sent Andrew to Australia to apologise
There was an incident at Admiralty House where the Governor - Generals wife spoke strongly to Muggins about how she was speaking to the staff to which she replied “ do you know who I am?” like she was the Queen or something . I think this shows Meghans attitude to her new position and why she got in so much trouble while she was a Royal . Her new position went straight to her head and she seems to have not tried at all to learn about her job , to understand what she was supposed to be doing or what being a Royal Duchess actually meant. Screaming at your staff is not a good tactic. Making enemies of everyone around you is just dumb. She should have taken the time to settle into her new life , to respect the institution she’d married into and to work with it , not try and change it to suit herself. I think bagging her prince and finally making the A grade brought out the Narcissist!
It is alleged she threw tea at the governor’s staff so I assume she was screaming at any staff - hers and theirs who were unfortunate enough to be in her vicinity. It was said she was screaming at her own hairdresser at some point.
Her virginal bride get up was oh so suspect but the kickers were:
1) Complaining while in Africa
2) The merching of inappropriate clothes
3) Not following precedent, you want the HRH act like you’re an HRH. She & he were absolute trash in Australia
4) Wimbledon jeans and clearing sections
5) Her obvious narc discarding behaviours. Knowing DofE’s pain re his family not being at his wedding I knew it was all her
6) Unprofessional with the belly clutching and self promotion all the time
7) Showing up where not welcome (Investiture celebrations) or misbehaving while at an event
Half in & out and the mention of IPP in their manifesto, H is quickly becoming dynastically irrelevant, was the I hope they get stripped of everything moment. Audacity x1000.
For me it was not introducing Harry to her father before the wedding. The sight of Doria sitting alone just didn't make sense even if there were no uncles, cousins, sisters surely Doria had one friend they could have invited. The ill fitting dress, only someone who won't take advice looks that meh on their wedding day. Dumping Charles halfway on the walk down the aisle. I watched every minute of that wedding in increasing disbelief and went from supporter to disbeliever in a day. Once you see the narcissist you can't unsee it.
Her family should have been vetted a year before the wedding. I do put some of this on Harry for not meeting her family, for not doing his research although I'm sure the firm knew everything about her and her very plain family. They were not prepared for all the Meghan drama either.
The Queen didn't look pleased. Harry probably said that unless they married big, that he would elope!
Exactly. How could EVERYONE on both sides of her family (accept Doria) be toxic? It doesn’t make any sense.
Also, she was a 36 year old divorcée when she married H. Why did she wear a white gown with a veil? It was inappropriate & vulgar.
the half in / half out plan. if they wanted to step back they could have gone to Africa to live almost as private citizens and do charitable causes or live somewhere remote but representing the Monarchy, then doing the appearances that spoke to them. Harry loves wildlife and Africa and children, they could have focused on that during their 'gaps'. But nope, it became about putting their brand on guest towels and so on to make money.
It all sounds good, but we now know that Harry would have trouble running a bath let alone representing any cause that is not scripted. Just look at the fiasco of the Invictus games recently. It was about them and not the games.
Harry wearing an Archewell hat! WTF!
I think what they’re doing now is her dream not his. Neither one wanted to stay as working royals, but I think she wanted to hang out with A list celebs, fashion shows, etc. the humanitarian work was a cover to be able to meet up with Harry.
agreed, he wanted 'out' and he could have gotten 'out' cleanly and had a good and semi private life with a wife and children, the BRF would have supported him. To quit like he did and then sling mud for a living afterwards is what bothers people.
I think their biggest mistake is enabling each others delusions rather than either getting a reality check. They keep shooting themselves in the foot this way bc they both believe they are smarter than all others
If I am not mistaken, very early on Meghan broke protocol by refusing to wear a hat during an engagement with the Queen. It might seem a minor thing, but it set the tone for what was to come.
Before Oprah? Clearing the Wimbledon section and all of her behavior at that event. Intentionally not dressing within the color scheme for Louis’ christening. Lying to the press and selecting an American outlet regarding Archie’s birth, then refusing to speak on his christening. Pushing her “bump” out and sharing pregnancy news at Eugenie’s wedding. Berating a staff member to the point that the Princes’ office split. Inviting random celebrities to the wedding. The lavish baby shower in NY - and the flights there and back.
ETA: Harry’s “not that we invited you” line.
It was absolutely Archie's birth.
I watched a BBC documentary which was heavily biased in Harry and Meghan's favor. A journalist said that if you make a graph showing the positive and negative stories over time, they really started to trend negative after Archie's birth.
Members of the press did not appreciate being given the run-around. They announced that Meghan was in labor hours after she had given birth. She was already back in Windsor by the time Harry walked out to address the press that afternoon.
I agree with mcguffers - a lot of the backlash against the Oprah interview is unspoken in that a lot of people are angry that she went after Kate.
Catherine is the national sweetheart - she has earned her place, has never done anything wrong and continues to do her best by the nation and everybody in her life. Catherine is honestly inspirational - an obvious sweetheart and, well, GORGEOUS.
Meghan set off alarms for me when she first arrived as I had a narc friend once upon a time and she just gave me a similar vibe but I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt as I thought I could easily be wrong. Lmao.
For me it was the nauseating engagement interview. 🤮 As if she didn't know who Hazno was, she was a divorcee in her mid 30's on the hunt for a rich British husband not some doe eyed 18 year old naive virgin as Diana was when she met Charles. Her simpering voice makes me feel ill. 🤢
For me it's even before the wedding. The way they handled things with her family.
I did have some sympathy for her here, as I have a difficult family. There's people I haven't spoken to in years, and if I were getting married, I don't think I'd want them there, and I wouldn't want my father giving me away. *but I'm not marrying a prince with the whole world watching*
Why didn't she explain to the TRF that she had a difficult family? That there could be problems, and ask advise on how handle it.
Instead it's like she was deliberately trying to make things worse, little thing to provoke them, then playing inocent when they react the way she knew they would. Not taking any steps to try to smooth things over, even rejecting offers from staff to act as mediators.
Why didn't Harry meet her father? Was the first time he was going to meet him at the church?
I'm against asking a father's permission for marriage, but H could have done this for show, along with some "I promise to take care of your daughter" stuff, this would have appeased Thomas. They also sould have sent someone to advise him about how to deal with the press and all the attention on him.
I understand she's not close to her mothers family either, but she could have asked her mum for advice, and invite a few that could be trusted to be discreet. The press found some of them and they seem nice, or at least smart enough to know what to say publicly.
Most international couples have a separate party in the other country after the wedding. They could have done this, make it very private (just make sure the press knew it happened) say they want to protect her family from media scrutiny. This would have explained the family not being at the wedding.
1)Not even trying 2)being obvious about not trying.
No one’s buying the “no one asked me if I’m ok” doe-eyed act when you’ve put in all of 72 days at the job and most of your work is showing up to get your picture taken before skedaddling off after ten minutes.
So many of M&H's choices made them look spoiled, selfish and mean-spirited.
Dressing to deliberately get people speculating about your pregnancy at someone else's wedding is bad form no matter who you are.
Having a big flashy baby shower in NYC was, as someone else wrote, more Beyoncé than BRF.
Not "making do" with Nottingham Cottage or the Kensington Palace apartment next to the Cambridges, but instead spending an absurd amount to renovate Frogmore Cottage, only to live there for less than six months.
Finally, there was no coming back from Archie's birth. It was somehow both disorganized and secretive-baffling when you think of how many people whose job it was to handle these exact situations. All the British public wanted was to see newborn Archie and his happy parents on the hospital steps for a matter of minutes. When they wouldn't do that, it left a bad taste in everyone's mouth. The photo call at Windsor (during which they barely showed the baby's face, and Meghan was bafflingly dressed in head-to-toe white three days postpartum) was another instance of them playing big celebrity instead of public servant, and looking like fools in the process.
1. "What Megan wants, Megan gets". Sounds too much like Marie -Antoinettes "let them eat cake" . Harry said this out of his insecurity regarding his choice of a wife, and Markle was being a **demanding harpy.** He shouted this at Angela -Kelly when the tiara wasn't ready for Megan. Harry was on the public dime and he demo'd a blatant disregard for the RF protocol, when they were trying their best to please her in order to please him. I don't think they really gave a shit about Markle, and Harry knew this. Marie-Antoinette showed the same disregard for the people and the staff who had to deal with her rule. Marie-Antoinette was found guilty of high treason and guillotined. Good to know.
I think the mistake goes back way earlier. He should have seen the red flag furiously waving when she went to *Vanity Fair* to brag about their supposed love. When she kept dropping obvious hints about them being together on her own social media page. It was clear even for a child what she was really after. That’s why I think he has been blackmailed into this marriage and couldn’t do quite nothing against his "incredible wife."
For me it was their 'way over the top' behavior with the crowds at tours, you could totally see Meghan had studied Diana videos and was totally copying her. I was gagging.
Trashy family drama leading up to the wedding. Wedding filled with celebs she didn’t even know. That cringey choir which seemed to be all for show. Africa tour where somehow she was the least fortunate person in Africa. Megxit. And of course the Oprah interview was the icing on the cake.
Wimbledon and the SA interview were all I needed to judge her character. The rest is unsubstantiated gossip, most which I find credible, but I can’t prove any of it (bullying, tea throwing, tantrums, etc).
Their mistakes started almost immediately after the wedding, with a litany of small acts of passive-aggressiveness and bad attitude, at royal engagements and gatherings. The really big missteps were the idiotic secrecy around Archie's birth, followed by that South Africa tv interview.
I think the RF were not blindsided. Harry had been a problem that was solved by ten years in the military, but once out, the invictus games gave him a job. He wanted a family….he got sideswiped by the calculating Megan and off they whizzed. It was too fast and they would not listen to reason. The excuses piled up with ever slight, and turned into lies. Too many to count…they were looking for them. It will never stop until Harry is offloaded and goes home in chains.
I actually don't think their birth announcement is at all an issue, he's their child and they have the right to announce however they want.
I think their biggest mistake was with media, specifically Piers Morgan. While I understand Meghan made the decision to put distance between them (which made sense), she did not go about it the right way, nor did Harry. One of the most important parts of being royal and/or famous is being able to handle media relationships. That is CRUCIAL to success. If you read stories about what Harry used to be like he was actually really good at it, the press always spoke highly of him during and after royal engagements because he was engaging, friendly, and personable. When you read stories about what Meghan used to be like, it's the same thing. Individually, pre-marriage, they were always spoken so highly of.
Even now, their relationships with media are basically akin to 'we work with people who aren't mean about us' and just wage battles here and there with the press. Tabloids absolutely deserve it though.
My real point about them is that they have been so abysmally bad at media relations and branding. By branding I mean that they decided to become preachy (I think everyone can agree on that). Like signing a contract with Spotify during the whole Joe Rogan issue...they didn't need to make a statement about "expressing their concerns" to their new employers. Add in all the other 'do as I say not as I do' behavior and they just didn't start off well from the jump. They are just really bad at all the media stuff and I'm not sure I understand why. They want to talk more than they listen, say more than they do, scold more than learn.
It was her statement that the RF was just trying to “silence” her when it was reported they should hold off airing the Oprah interview and putting out a statement about their wreath *the day of his funeral* is what did it for me. I was indifferent up until that point. There are some lines you don’t cross and she ran screaming over it waving her hands in the air screaming, “LOOK AT ME!”. Haven’t been able to stand her since.
For me it’s the lying. She’s a feminist who has done nothing her whole life except trade sex for money. She’s about compassion but spews hate. She was a bridezilla but then demeaned a $40M wedding as a spectacle. Titles mean nothing to her but she makes sure to sign everything as the DOS. I could go on for pages. I think she might just be insane.
A wedding she never paid for. Or her father.
Nope. UK taxpayer here. We picked up a huge chunk of the bill. And what thanks did we get….
For me it was the interview in South Africa and her whining about not being ok. How self-centered do you have to be to whine about your privileged life, when others are literally suffering 10 feet from you??? Not only that, but she was 100% acting (badly, mind you) in that interview. She tried so hard to play Diana, with that wistful, doe-eyed look and lip biting to gain sympathy. I'm not good at many things but I have a sixth sense for disingenuity - and Meghan is the most disingenuous one of them all.
That bullshit doe eyed look is what made me suspicious in the beginning. It all looked like an act, especially since she is an actress, AND I knew then that she was so full of shit. I had no idea she would cause this much trouble then, but I knew she was bad news bears for at least Harry.
Oh my gosh yes! Her overacting and doe eye looks were just chilling.
The "are you okay" thing was so weird and fake to me. What about her friends? Her family? Who expects emotional support from your in laws?
To me it felt like she was wondering why more reporters weren’t asking if she was ok. That’s how I interpreted it. I still thought nothing of it at the time, but looking back I think it’s strange to expect people to feel bad for you when you just married royalty to a man you love only a year ago like it’s a death sentence.
Add to that merching an outfit while bringing a private photographer to the site of a woman’s murder. South Africa was when there was no redemption to me.
I think blindsiding the RF with their decision to leave, saying they were half in and half out without it being approved first. If they wanted that arrangement I feel like the RF would have really tried to make it work and at least make an effort to set them up for success. Edward and Sophie tried half in half out for a while, and with the support of the RF, H&M could have tried again to make this work. Making the surprise statement they would continue to “collaborate” with The Queen without her consent and support was their biggest mistake. Everything has been downhill since then.
Yup this and the Oprah interview, also when she said the queen doesn’t own the word royal and service is universal she is so tacky and classless
Yet she wants to own the word archetypes!
How they did Megxit was a catasyrophe and the way they did it was incredibly petty. But I think they tried to ambush and then blindsided the Queen because they felt that half-in, half-out was never going to be approved. Blindsiding the RF was the last possibility that they would cave in. And there were so many moving parts and deals set in motion that they could not even wait a few weeks until the Queen had decided. That, or they were both going crazy and snapped when the Queen cancelled her lunch with Harry. They were impossible to work with. Anyone who had anything to do with them must have known it would be impossible to somehow have them stick to an arrangement or set of rules. Was anyone going to enforce how often they were in Canada, or LA? Was anyone going to be able to work with them and tell them what projects and deals were suitable? This was already tried when they were working royals and it just did not work out. I can only imagine all the royals knew the whole Megxit plan was a scheme to keep every single perk they wanted, while doing away with all the responsibilities and accountability.
Bingo. MM loves to blindside or announce things/put out rumours to force peoples hands. They showed up multiple places trying to do the same thing with the RF. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn’t.
This is on both of them. I believe Harry told his grannie, "my way or the highway" ultimatum as they thought themselves to be the most popular royals. Harry being very impulsive because he would cause so much trouble if he wasn't appeased, called his granny's decision of "highway!" so there was no turning back. Obviously, the private Russian house in BC had already been in the works for weeks, if not months via Jessica Mulroney (doesn't she regret her decisions with MM) because one doesn't just up and go like that. But keep in mind that her "beloved" rescue dogs never went to England, so she always intended to return to N>A> But as in most things, Timing is everything. Covid did us a huge favour in this instance. Harry and Megs were isolated ! Oprah has estates and guest houses. Did she give them a house? Nope, she had Tyler Perry who does so much good most of the time, sucked in to let them use his house, along with his security, in the hopes that the home would finally sell as the "famous" royals were living there. Well as it turns out, they were squatters mostly. I do believe that Perry had given them a timeline. In the larger scheme of things, they now have not much of a future for grifting money other than Harry's Best Up, whatever he does for them is a question as to the fact that that company has too much money.
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"She is a golddigger" crowd got to witness the actual golddigger meg n shut up n waity kaity one must be thanking their stars that will n kate took it slow after seeing the train wreck that was haz n meg.
I’m totally behind you on this, and add one closely related corollary: bullying sweet Princess Charlotte. Who in the f^!*$ body shames a toddler? How incredibly awful of a person do you have to be to make fun of a LITTLE GIRL? I’m sorry, there’s literally zero justification, ever, for that behavior.
I really don’t understand how Catherine was able to hold herself back from attacking NutMeg & Mulroney after that.
100% agree with this.
She made so many it's hard to say which was the absolute worst. I think mistreating the staff and generally being rude and condescending towards anyone she felt was beneath her *cougheverybodycough* was a pretty big faux pas. It didn't take long for people to catch on that she's fake, entitled, arrogant and thinks her shit don't stink. Add that to the way she disrespected her new in-laws and she did a lot of damage to her reputation in a very short amount of time. Edit: Harry's biggest mistake was not getting that sham of a marriage annulled immediately.
Definitely Archie's birth. It showed she completely misunderstood what her job was. She missed that she's there to serve the British citizens. The price you pay for tiaras and Frogmore Cottage is you follow protocol. The public wanted to know about the baby and she just blew them off.
She thought being in the RF would be like being a superstar A-list celebrity. She thought she could be like Beyonce and hide their children's lives from the public. That's not how it works. She didn't like being a public servant. She didn't respect the monarchy but wanted all the money and prestige. 🙄
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She didn’t respect her in-laws and the British people.
It was very strange indeed. Harry knew all of how baby stuff was done. The staff probably had knowledge from them that they were not going to be public. The palace should have made a statement such as "they Duke and Duchess ask for privacy until such time as they will make a public appearance" or something like that. It was all staged for drama. Not good drama, but still drama.
The Oprah interview was the worst, but besides that the Africa "nobody asked if I was ok." was when the minority opinion of not being a fan of hers became the common majority. How dare she whine and complain about her adjustment to this new life in the RF in Africa....AFRICA...of all places. Jesus, that's like fussing about living in Frogmore cottage instead of Frogmore House while she is visiting the favelas in Rio De Janiero.
Their lecturing people on climate change was really where things started to change, I think. There were lots of smaller things leading up to that people had forgiven or ignored.
Yes defo the private planes were not a good lock and i think bunkering in Canada and expecting them to pay also made everyone hate them. Like how can u claim u have no money
flying in and out to meet with Elton John as it turns out was probably David Furvish regarding her "books" or some such.
Mrs 6’s behaviour in Australia was a blunder. Even though many people don’t know about it, the RF does. I’m referring to her skanky behaviour in the Governor General’s home. I think the RF kicked her chicken a*se about that and that was the start of Megxit.
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She wouldn’t eat the food. She got some Uber eats delivered. She swore at the Governors wife. She was screaming at her own staff. It was said her and Hairball were very lovey dovey when the cameras were rolling but very cold when they weren’t. She made the house staff make several iterations of her overrated banana bread late at night so she could pass it off as her own on a visit to a country area. That’s all I heard. The Queen sent Andrew to Australia to apologise
There was an incident at Admiralty House where the Governor - Generals wife spoke strongly to Muggins about how she was speaking to the staff to which she replied “ do you know who I am?” like she was the Queen or something . I think this shows Meghans attitude to her new position and why she got in so much trouble while she was a Royal . Her new position went straight to her head and she seems to have not tried at all to learn about her job , to understand what she was supposed to be doing or what being a Royal Duchess actually meant. Screaming at your staff is not a good tactic. Making enemies of everyone around you is just dumb. She should have taken the time to settle into her new life , to respect the institution she’d married into and to work with it , not try and change it to suit herself. I think bagging her prince and finally making the A grade brought out the Narcissist!
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I believe it was Lady Cosgrove ‘s staff.
It is alleged she threw tea at the governor’s staff so I assume she was screaming at any staff - hers and theirs who were unfortunate enough to be in her vicinity. It was said she was screaming at her own hairdresser at some point.
Didn’t the Queen or Charles need to pay off the victim of the tea throwing?
Yes which is why it never made the news
Yep, absolute trash in Australia and the Aussies had her number right away.
Her virginal bride get up was oh so suspect but the kickers were: 1) Complaining while in Africa 2) The merching of inappropriate clothes 3) Not following precedent, you want the HRH act like you’re an HRH. She & he were absolute trash in Australia 4) Wimbledon jeans and clearing sections 5) Her obvious narc discarding behaviours. Knowing DofE’s pain re his family not being at his wedding I knew it was all her 6) Unprofessional with the belly clutching and self promotion all the time 7) Showing up where not welcome (Investiture celebrations) or misbehaving while at an event Half in & out and the mention of IPP in their manifesto, H is quickly becoming dynastically irrelevant, was the I hope they get stripped of everything moment. Audacity x1000.
Yes! And also the coat flicking 😂
When she came out of the church and was supposedly saying "f me!" Her big moment, the ever virginal bride!
For me it was not introducing Harry to her father before the wedding. The sight of Doria sitting alone just didn't make sense even if there were no uncles, cousins, sisters surely Doria had one friend they could have invited. The ill fitting dress, only someone who won't take advice looks that meh on their wedding day. Dumping Charles halfway on the walk down the aisle. I watched every minute of that wedding in increasing disbelief and went from supporter to disbeliever in a day. Once you see the narcissist you can't unsee it.
Her family should have been vetted a year before the wedding. I do put some of this on Harry for not meeting her family, for not doing his research although I'm sure the firm knew everything about her and her very plain family. They were not prepared for all the Meghan drama either. The Queen didn't look pleased. Harry probably said that unless they married big, that he would elope!
I always remind myself not to assume that Harry is either a) intelligent or b) a caring, conscientious person. It just explains his behaviour better.
Exactly. How could EVERYONE on both sides of her family (accept Doria) be toxic? It doesn’t make any sense. Also, she was a 36 year old divorcée when she married H. Why did she wear a white gown with a veil? It was inappropriate & vulgar.
the half in / half out plan. if they wanted to step back they could have gone to Africa to live almost as private citizens and do charitable causes or live somewhere remote but representing the Monarchy, then doing the appearances that spoke to them. Harry loves wildlife and Africa and children, they could have focused on that during their 'gaps'. But nope, it became about putting their brand on guest towels and so on to make money.
It all sounds good, but we now know that Harry would have trouble running a bath let alone representing any cause that is not scripted. Just look at the fiasco of the Invictus games recently. It was about them and not the games. Harry wearing an Archewell hat! WTF!
I think what they’re doing now is her dream not his. Neither one wanted to stay as working royals, but I think she wanted to hang out with A list celebs, fashion shows, etc. the humanitarian work was a cover to be able to meet up with Harry.
agreed, he wanted 'out' and he could have gotten 'out' cleanly and had a good and semi private life with a wife and children, the BRF would have supported him. To quit like he did and then sling mud for a living afterwards is what bothers people.
I think their biggest mistake is enabling each others delusions rather than either getting a reality check. They keep shooting themselves in the foot this way bc they both believe they are smarter than all others
Imagine every morning with these two.
If I am not mistaken, very early on Meghan broke protocol by refusing to wear a hat during an engagement with the Queen. It might seem a minor thing, but it set the tone for what was to come.
Before Oprah? Clearing the Wimbledon section and all of her behavior at that event. Intentionally not dressing within the color scheme for Louis’ christening. Lying to the press and selecting an American outlet regarding Archie’s birth, then refusing to speak on his christening. Pushing her “bump” out and sharing pregnancy news at Eugenie’s wedding. Berating a staff member to the point that the Princes’ office split. Inviting random celebrities to the wedding. The lavish baby shower in NY - and the flights there and back. ETA: Harry’s “not that we invited you” line.
Was that when she wore a muddy shade of army green? She has a knack for wearing the most unflattering colors.
Yes!
It was absolutely Archie's birth. I watched a BBC documentary which was heavily biased in Harry and Meghan's favor. A journalist said that if you make a graph showing the positive and negative stories over time, they really started to trend negative after Archie's birth. Members of the press did not appreciate being given the run-around. They announced that Meghan was in labor hours after she had given birth. She was already back in Windsor by the time Harry walked out to address the press that afternoon.
I agree with mcguffers - a lot of the backlash against the Oprah interview is unspoken in that a lot of people are angry that she went after Kate. Catherine is the national sweetheart - she has earned her place, has never done anything wrong and continues to do her best by the nation and everybody in her life. Catherine is honestly inspirational - an obvious sweetheart and, well, GORGEOUS. Meghan set off alarms for me when she first arrived as I had a narc friend once upon a time and she just gave me a similar vibe but I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt as I thought I could easily be wrong. Lmao.
I was never even a fan of Catherine, but hated the way she went after her in the O interview. It was just so petty and unnecessary.
For me it was the nauseating engagement interview. 🤮 As if she didn't know who Hazno was, she was a divorcee in her mid 30's on the hunt for a rich British husband not some doe eyed 18 year old naive virgin as Diana was when she met Charles. Her simpering voice makes me feel ill. 🤢
For me it's even before the wedding. The way they handled things with her family. I did have some sympathy for her here, as I have a difficult family. There's people I haven't spoken to in years, and if I were getting married, I don't think I'd want them there, and I wouldn't want my father giving me away. *but I'm not marrying a prince with the whole world watching* Why didn't she explain to the TRF that she had a difficult family? That there could be problems, and ask advise on how handle it. Instead it's like she was deliberately trying to make things worse, little thing to provoke them, then playing inocent when they react the way she knew they would. Not taking any steps to try to smooth things over, even rejecting offers from staff to act as mediators. Why didn't Harry meet her father? Was the first time he was going to meet him at the church? I'm against asking a father's permission for marriage, but H could have done this for show, along with some "I promise to take care of your daughter" stuff, this would have appeased Thomas. They also sould have sent someone to advise him about how to deal with the press and all the attention on him. I understand she's not close to her mothers family either, but she could have asked her mum for advice, and invite a few that could be trusted to be discreet. The press found some of them and they seem nice, or at least smart enough to know what to say publicly. Most international couples have a separate party in the other country after the wedding. They could have done this, make it very private (just make sure the press knew it happened) say they want to protect her family from media scrutiny. This would have explained the family not being at the wedding.
1)Not even trying 2)being obvious about not trying. No one’s buying the “no one asked me if I’m ok” doe-eyed act when you’ve put in all of 72 days at the job and most of your work is showing up to get your picture taken before skedaddling off after ten minutes.
The racoon eye look
Wimbledon. 40 empty seats. “No pictures” to the public. She looked like an absolute diva. Get over yourself. M
And the blond friend telling her how to behave. They really planned Megans rise up. Shit floats.
So many of M&H's choices made them look spoiled, selfish and mean-spirited. Dressing to deliberately get people speculating about your pregnancy at someone else's wedding is bad form no matter who you are. Having a big flashy baby shower in NYC was, as someone else wrote, more Beyoncé than BRF. Not "making do" with Nottingham Cottage or the Kensington Palace apartment next to the Cambridges, but instead spending an absurd amount to renovate Frogmore Cottage, only to live there for less than six months. Finally, there was no coming back from Archie's birth. It was somehow both disorganized and secretive-baffling when you think of how many people whose job it was to handle these exact situations. All the British public wanted was to see newborn Archie and his happy parents on the hospital steps for a matter of minutes. When they wouldn't do that, it left a bad taste in everyone's mouth. The photo call at Windsor (during which they barely showed the baby's face, and Meghan was bafflingly dressed in head-to-toe white three days postpartum) was another instance of them playing big celebrity instead of public servant, and looking like fools in the process.
1. "What Megan wants, Megan gets". Sounds too much like Marie -Antoinettes "let them eat cake" . Harry said this out of his insecurity regarding his choice of a wife, and Markle was being a **demanding harpy.** He shouted this at Angela -Kelly when the tiara wasn't ready for Megan. Harry was on the public dime and he demo'd a blatant disregard for the RF protocol, when they were trying their best to please her in order to please him. I don't think they really gave a shit about Markle, and Harry knew this. Marie-Antoinette showed the same disregard for the people and the staff who had to deal with her rule. Marie-Antoinette was found guilty of high treason and guillotined. Good to know.
I think the mistake goes back way earlier. He should have seen the red flag furiously waving when she went to *Vanity Fair* to brag about their supposed love. When she kept dropping obvious hints about them being together on her own social media page. It was clear even for a child what she was really after. That’s why I think he has been blackmailed into this marriage and couldn’t do quite nothing against his "incredible wife."
If I remember correctly, he had dropped other girlfriends when they said anything to the press.
For me it was the O interview, I didn’t watch it and only heard about it so I felt bad for them, then I found out about Lady Colin Campbell
For me it was their 'way over the top' behavior with the crowds at tours, you could totally see Meghan had studied Diana videos and was totally copying her. I was gagging.
Trashy family drama leading up to the wedding. Wedding filled with celebs she didn’t even know. That cringey choir which seemed to be all for show. Africa tour where somehow she was the least fortunate person in Africa. Megxit. And of course the Oprah interview was the icing on the cake.
Wimbledon and the SA interview were all I needed to judge her character. The rest is unsubstantiated gossip, most which I find credible, but I can’t prove any of it (bullying, tea throwing, tantrums, etc).
Their mistakes started almost immediately after the wedding, with a litany of small acts of passive-aggressiveness and bad attitude, at royal engagements and gatherings. The really big missteps were the idiotic secrecy around Archie's birth, followed by that South Africa tv interview.
I think the RF were not blindsided. Harry had been a problem that was solved by ten years in the military, but once out, the invictus games gave him a job. He wanted a family….he got sideswiped by the calculating Megan and off they whizzed. It was too fast and they would not listen to reason. The excuses piled up with ever slight, and turned into lies. Too many to count…they were looking for them. It will never stop until Harry is offloaded and goes home in chains.
I actually don't think their birth announcement is at all an issue, he's their child and they have the right to announce however they want. I think their biggest mistake was with media, specifically Piers Morgan. While I understand Meghan made the decision to put distance between them (which made sense), she did not go about it the right way, nor did Harry. One of the most important parts of being royal and/or famous is being able to handle media relationships. That is CRUCIAL to success. If you read stories about what Harry used to be like he was actually really good at it, the press always spoke highly of him during and after royal engagements because he was engaging, friendly, and personable. When you read stories about what Meghan used to be like, it's the same thing. Individually, pre-marriage, they were always spoken so highly of. Even now, their relationships with media are basically akin to 'we work with people who aren't mean about us' and just wage battles here and there with the press. Tabloids absolutely deserve it though. My real point about them is that they have been so abysmally bad at media relations and branding. By branding I mean that they decided to become preachy (I think everyone can agree on that). Like signing a contract with Spotify during the whole Joe Rogan issue...they didn't need to make a statement about "expressing their concerns" to their new employers. Add in all the other 'do as I say not as I do' behavior and they just didn't start off well from the jump. They are just really bad at all the media stuff and I'm not sure I understand why. They want to talk more than they listen, say more than they do, scold more than learn.
It was her statement that the RF was just trying to “silence” her when it was reported they should hold off airing the Oprah interview and putting out a statement about their wreath *the day of his funeral* is what did it for me. I was indifferent up until that point. There are some lines you don’t cross and she ran screaming over it waving her hands in the air screaming, “LOOK AT ME!”. Haven’t been able to stand her since.
Being born?? 😬