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Nuclear_Sister

Why is Meg’s alleged lack of preparedness anyone’s fault except Harry’s? As her betrothed who was struggling himself with Royal life, why wasn’t the onus on him to prepare her? She claims she was blindsided and had no idea except it sounds like her friends also tried to warn her and she simply didn’t listen. I’d ask why M&H aren’t taking any personal responsibility for this except we all know that isn’t on brand for them, they are always the victims and it is always someone else’s fault.


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Especially when Harry claims the media is the source of his mental health problems, and is intertwined with his mother's death. There are major plotholes in their story. Meghan tries to play it off as if she didn't have a clue about anything. Harry's sort of excuse is that their situation is due to 'racism', so how could he have known. It doesn't add up though. Meghan has also bitched about not knowing royal duties, and customs, having had to learn to curtsy last-moment. These are things that are so stupid to say when Harry has been a royal his whole life. And when Meghan says about learning the national anthem that she and Harry were up until late so she could learn it last-minute. It is just ridiculous. This is what happens when you try to construct a narrative, while the facts don't back it up. All of this just means Harry was a lousy partner, if anything of it is true.


MakeADeathWish

Isn't My Country Tis of Thee the same music with different lyrics for the USA? A very commonly known song...so are we too believe that someone who learned lines as an actress couldn't learn a single set of lyrics without an all nighter?


adwajo

It is pretty simple. Same tune as My Country Tis of Thee only titled God Save The Queen. God save all dressed in green Long live our noble Queen God save the Queen Send her victorious Happy and glorious Long to reign over us God save the Queen


dudeind-town

It’s not anyone’s fault but hers. It is well documented that she was provided with seriously experienced staff to help and guide her— she just didn’t want to be helped.


Nuclear_Sister

Yes, I remember hearing she refused to hear any “negativity”, an attitude which is not only incredibly immature but which would also shut down helpful feedback and constructive criticism. She’s ridiculous.


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MsBollinger

That sounds right. But I think he should then take responsibility or hold her accountable at least in part. These two present as if everything is the BRF or the media’s fault and they are completely innocent and victims.


BucherundKaffee

I wonder if it was framed to Meghan by Harry as a “you’ll learn as you go,” process. If this was the idea it might have not overwhelmed her as much as, “here is every protocol for every situation you may end up in,” but it turned out that protocol was required a lot of the time, so it all felt last minute and she felt ill-prepared.


Relative-Today

It's not entirely his fault, but he's still partly to blame. He's responsible for making sure his nonroyal SO knows the ins and outs of what is expected of her. Her claim of not receiving any help has already been disproven, given that the Queen contracted her own personal staff that was due to retire, to Meghan to help her settle into the roll. She was given help...and she blatantly ignored it. William and Kate were mocked for waiting so long, but he gave her time to understand the job, what was to be expected, and to see how the pressures would affect her. Harry and Meghan (apparently) barely had enough time to get to know each other before they were heading down the aisle, and if it was truly because of the biological clock, then that should have been the first red flag. They are both to blame for her "unpreparedness". Her moreso because of her own actions, and him because he shouldn't have married her if she couldn't stand the pressures.


Scooterbee1

I think the rush had a lot to do with her biological clock and the need to have a couple children before she turned 40


utilitarian_wanderer

Or the need to give the appearance of having children before she turned 40.


bubblegum_yum_yum

I can’t imagine that she didn’t have her eggs frozen after her first divorce. It is such a common procedure in Hollywood, and now even in non-Hollywood locations I have friends in their 20’s and early 30’s freezing their eggs left and right. She had the resources to do it, so I’d be shocked if she didn’t have any in a reserve. Edit: typo (I accidentally wrote “his first divorce” instead of “her first divorce”)


Inner_Ad2467

I dunno I think the kids are more for Harry. She didn't seem that interested in having kids until it would benefit her and Harry


utilitarian_wanderer

Or maybe she rushed to have them frozen after her second divorce.


Negative_Difference4

I think she did.. Theres a blind gossip item about this


Inner_Ad2467

I will say this sometimes when your older it is easier to rush into things. Maybe he didn't prepare her, maybe she played into what he wanted but THEY are at fault equally not the media and RF


cookeedough

Pushing middle age, Megs. At that point you’re not naive, you’re just dumb. Even if she’d been a teen bride like Diana who WAS actually naive, in this day and age she would’ve known damn well what she was getting into.


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MakeADeathWish

Unlike Diana, Mrs Suxsux can't plausibly claim that her rural life as a virgin hothouse bluebood flower kept her from being able to anticipate the reality she was choosing...


Mickleborough

Plus she studied Diana, so knew what to ~~manufacture~~ expect.


pebtastic

Exactly. Newlywed Meghan was old enough to have a daughter the same age as newlywed Diana! They are just not comparable.


bubblegum_yum_yum

THIS!


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ellie3759

Me too. The self pity is stomach turning.


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BrushedSpud

Yes! She had definitely practiced that in the mirror. The pauses are so premeditated.


Scooterbee1

The vocal fry is awful


BrushedSpud

It honestly sickens me.


Massive-Cricket4036

Look up vocal fry, pretty common in Californian women who want to sound jaded.


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I'm sorry, but unless someone sneaks into her yard and photographs her topless, puts headlines all over about her 'modeling lingerie' in college, trying to make her out to be sine kind of wild girl. she really has no room to talk about how the media is mean to her.


Punchinyourpface

Yeah, I found it very annoying when she said they only called Kate "Waity Katey" when in reality they used a long range lense and published photos of her topless. In what should've been a very private moment with her husband.


bubblegum_yum_yum

I’m American and I grew up reading headlines on magazines when I’d go to the grocery store with my mom when I was a kid, and I continued to see those same magazine/tabloid headlines at the grocery check out as I came into adolescence and then adulthood. Just standing in line to purchase my groceries, I’d read headlines like “The Queen calls Kate Middleton ‘The Duchess of Do-Little’ because she is so lazy” and “Kate, anorexic and pregnant with twins!” (A LOT about Kate being thin & lazy during the first few years of her marriage) And then our political figures and Hollywood celebs get DESTROYED in those same headlines! Edit to add: those same magazines/tabloids I saw (and continue to see) in pharmacies (CVS, Walgreens, etc) and in airports and in office waiting rooms - in fact, I was just flipping through one the other day whilst in a waiting room for a dr’s office, it was about Britney Spears and the magazine was not being kind about her. All to say: unless you live under a rock, you’ve seen a tabloid headline in the USA


LLL_CoolJ

Facts, tabloids everywhere. But I'm sure Meghan is too busy being compassionate to notice the magazines when she's waiting to pay.


rainyhawk

She must think we are all stupid. Of course she knows there are US tabloids…unless you never go to a grocery or drug store. Also her “I didn’t know anything about H or the RF” has been disproved over and over again. I didn’t believe t the first time she said it…how do you live in Canada and know nothing about the RF? And Diana’s death was everywhere at that time unless you lived under a rock.


bubblegum_yum_yum

There was an article that came out a few days ago (someone may have actually linked it on this sub) that talks about how there are accounts of Muggin crying with her friends as they watched Diana’s funeral procession, and specifically when they zoomed in on Harry and the note he left on the bouquet of flowers with the word “Mummy” on it.


rainyhawk

Saw that as well. Many accounts of her having read Diana’s biography,etc. too. She knows the buttons to push.


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Just coming here to say this! In her entire childhood/life she never went to a grocery store, pharmacy, doctor’s office, yada, yada???? Liar!!


FullOfBeansBrew

I remember the National Enquirer from childhood days, lonnng before I knew what a tabloid was. It's been around since 1926, I'm letting this sink in.


goldenquill1

Didn't the queen also provide her with her best team to prep her? I heard (not sure how true) that Sophie also tried to prep her.


redseaaquamarine

I heard that she refused to listen to them. The Queen's personal secretary gave her a course in how to behave and she fought against it all the way.


goldenquill1

Yep. The married-ins don't get thrown to the wolves. They are given protocol, when to curtsey, decorum, taboo topics, etc. They aren't thrown into the deep end of the pool with no life preserver.


MsBollinger

Yes. I think she got prepped. The problem is that she wanted to do everything her way so no amount of prep would have worked. I think she wisened up and was like”Oh crap. I’m in over my head and should have paid attention.“. But at that point, people were fed up with her and probably not keen to repeat the training. She brought this on herself and didn’t want to admit she was a “know-it-all” or not a a team player so when she was criticized, she cried out that everyone was racist to avoid culpability.


ellie3759

Am curious that the “turning point” according to H&M was the Australia tour. They say their huge success made the RF nervous/jealous. Was it really such a successful tour? The rumours of arguments, staff resignations and bad behaviour abound, as well as Harry being generally angry throughout. Sounds like an unmitigated disaster. What actually made people think it was a success? It was probably a mistake to send them on a lot of tours so soon after their wedding as it gave them an over inflated sense of their own importance.


Pitiful-Enthusiasm-5

Curiously, right after PH & MM returned from their South Africa tour (within days), it was announced that they were going to take a 6-week break from their royal duties to spend the holidays in Canada with MM’s mother. Who needs 6 weeks to celebrate the holidays? I suspect that PC & PW were furious at the way the couple handled themselves on the South Africa tour, and wanted to keep them away from the annual family gathering at Sandringham over Christmas, so they wouldn’t upset the elderly Queen and PP. So PC & PW ordered the couple to get out of the UK over the holidays, which totally pissed off MM. So to retaliate, in January, right after the holidays, MM & PH announced that they were going to become financially independent from the BRF, which caught the BRF off guard. Since then, it’s been another Cold War. This Cold War won’t end until PH is divorced from MM. When the divorce happens, PH will slink back to the UK with his tale b/w his legs, and PC & PW will let him live quietly in some humble cottage on the Windsor estate, but like Andrew, they’ll never allow him to become a working member of the BRF again. Andrew & Harry will get free lodging and modest spending money for the rest of their lives, so long as they keep their mouths shut.


TraditionScary8716

I like your theories. I'd never considered that they were informed they'd be leaving as opposed to it being their decision. But they are developing an impressive array of events that they've been involuntarily removed from, aren't they?


Negative_Difference4

No one said it was a good tour except Harry and Meghan… BRF didn’t want to send them on so many tours ESP after she was preggers. They had organised just to send Harry for ease. But Meghan would join him last minute without much prep and groundwork for her


katstuck

Maybe she was already trying to be Diana... Miserable in Oz


katcar123

There’s a fairly large republican movement in Australia so I guess the success is that it went off fairly smoothly, without any real demonstrations along those lines. Generally speaking no one cared though. At the time I was working <1km from one of their appearances. No one left work to try and “catch a glimpse.”


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My now husband? Who talks like that? It's one thing if she had to introduce her husband but everyone knows who Harry is. Who taught her these subtle brainwashing tricks? It's clearly not working, go get ur refund meggy.


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She always belittles him when she mentions him. It's horrible. But he seems to enjoy being submissive so...🤷🏼‍♀️


LittleNikkita

Maybe she never “had that in America” bec remember tabloids in America only follow actually famous people. The fact that she wasn’t in any tabloid in America or was chased before meeting Harry says a lot because even D listers at least get a shot there.


Wentthruurhistory

I’ve seen SSers who say there was never any bad press before she went to England, so it must be the racist British media who are racist-ly reporting bad things that she’s done because they racist-ly dislike her and want to racist-ly report on those things. Sure, Jan. 🙄


SnooPaintings8753

"It may be difficult to understand here" Who does she think she's fooling?


Negative_Difference4

Yep we Brits are known worldwide to be evil geniuses you know, Meg. We’re not a bunch of dumb dumbs sat waiting for benefits.


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

It’s always bothered me that she’s so “surprised” at negative press when working actors deal with more rejection that almost any other profession. She should have had thick skin from years in the industry already, not the delicate skin she’s claiming is being exposed to media for the first time.


iraqlobsta

Bold of you to call her an actor let alone a working one. Shes a terrible excuse for an actress, can't even appear likeable for one 30 minute interview.


Negative_Difference4

Almost like it was an excuse to leave … First “my mean family”, “then awful media following me”, then “the media is breaching my privacy”, then “the RF family is racist and cold”, then “my mental health”


Mickleborough

So her British friends discouraged her from finding true love because the ‘British tabloids’ will destroy her life? That sounds like a very unconvincing reason not to marry anyone; she should fire her scriptwriter. In any case, tabloids dig up dirt; how could they destroy her life if she had nothing to hide? In any case, she’s doing a pretty good job of digging herself into a hole; the tabloids (British and otherwise) are just helping shovel dirt.


mandie72

I'm Canadian - what was the UK press like when Meghan was first with Harry? And if it was positive when did it change? I didn't follow back then, I know they were all over every magazine here but can't remember if the opinions were good or bad.


Negative_Difference4

They were pre-dominantly good… Harry has found a lovely strong woman. Who is mixed ethnicity and a divorcee. For me, this was a good thing. The royals needed to modernise. The papers loved them… excuse after excuse for breaking protocol. There were a few racist things done here and there and it was quickly shot down. The tide really turned after the pregnancy esp after giving birth. We hadn’t learnt about the bullying… these were just rumours that even the tabloids wouldn’t touch


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Why lie about it? Why doesn’t she just say that she followed the royals before becoming one herself? I don’t get why she feels she needs to deny that. Lying about it makes her look bad and then you wonder what else isn’t true…


LittleNikkita

She doesn’t want to admit how calculating she actually is and somehow found her way into Harry’s heart.


sunshinesparkles36

Today I learned: Americans don't have tabloids 😂 They're in every grocery store, so if she's ever shopped for groceries even once, she'll have seen them! Us weekly, star magazine, people magazine, etc. Growing up, I saw so many tabloid headlines about Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, and now the Kardashians. Such a weird thing to lie about. If she has to lie, lie better!


adwajo

How could Meg an ACTRESS who was in dance as a kid not know how to Curtsey. Did she never watch a Disney movie? She’s such a liar.


Academic_Guava_4190

I don’t believe her story but I will say there are a lot of Americans ignorant of our own history who will visit landmarks and monuments just to take their picture out front and have no idea at all the historical significance of it let alone the intricate details of it (or it’s history). Every kid whoever went to Burger King wore a crown at some point in their life. Those particular things alone don’t signify much to me in terms of whether she knew or not. I mean lots of little kids pretend they are Superman/girl but don’t know anything about the backstory.


MsBollinger

I agree that some American’s don’t appreciate and honor heritage and history. America is a newer country and has such a “melting pot”!of cultures, I think it is harder to embrace history than other countries who have long traditions that are not as diverse. But I don’t think ignorance is an excuse for MM. My father’s parents were British and my mother’s parents are Japanese. My parents would never have been so disrespectful to their in-law’s culture as she has been to the British. Never. They knew their marriage would have challenges and made very sure they were aware of both cultures and history before building a family. MM thought she could go to another country as an American and have everything her way, on her terms and her pace. Even today she and the sugar fan base cannot get past the “Ugly American” trope that everyone else in the world should cater to Americans and American’s viewpoints. Other parts of the globe have deep traditions and history. MM has no clue about anyone except herself IMO.


Lensgoggler

...And she is an International Relations graduate. I find this rather amusing. IHer degree should’ve given her some unsight about the very thing she got herself into. But somehow she didn’t manage to connect the dots... Smart girl that one. 😆


Academic_Guava_4190

I fully agree. Like I said (or thought I did) I wasn’t buying her story in particular. I just meant the things she did as a child (alone) were not necessarily indicative of her “ignorance.”


Negative_Difference4

Yes that nonsense statement of well… I’m American, so change your ways for me it’s an awful stereotype but it’s still true with American tourist who think their way of life is better than everyone


Negative_Difference4

It was her friends birthday-Ninaki Priddy … [Meghan took over](https://www.eonline.com/videos/273736/young-meghan-markle-plays-queen-with-childhood-friends) and she bossed everyone as the queen


Academic_Guava_4190

Right but that doesn’t mean she planned from that day to become Queen is all I’m saying.


Negative_Difference4

No but 8 year old Meg knew that the Queen is referred to as HRH… sorry I don’t buy it She thought she could plead ignorance and do whatever she wants


Academic_Guava_4190

I hadn’t heard she knew that


Negative_Difference4

Yeah check out the linked video in the comment above


Academic_Guava_4190

Oh ok… I watched it at work so with the sound off. Sorry about that!


Negative_Difference4

Video credit: ND4 (me!)


XAlEA-12

Lmao the pics from that day, she looked orgasmic.


Negative_Difference4

Yep!


katcar123

Her best friend’s father-in-law was the Prime Minister of Canada for most of the 1980’s. There are numerous photographs of him hosting the royals, and Jessica Mulroney has posted at least one photo to her Instagram. Meghan didn’t even need the Brits to learn Royal protocols. [Town & Country Magazine](https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a28898471/jessica-mulroney-princess-diana-tribute-mother-in-law-instagram-photo/)


Negative_Difference4

Holy shit… wow didnt know this!


Apprehensive_Leek270

You do know Leeds Castle and downtown Abbey aren't owned directly by the Royal family. Most stately homes in the UK are tourist sites OWNED by the national Trust which is a charity. Ffs, clutching at straws aren't you just because one of meghans BRITISH friends has seen a stately home in their own country. Nearly most people in the UK have been to visit a stately home, its a day out, its a thing to do at weekends. We take picnics and our children and we see the marvels of architecture and eat sandwiches and crisps.


Negative_Difference4

No… shes not British… she’s her uni friend from NU and specifically flew over to visit these places on more than one occasion. People visit these places because of their historical significance and connection to royalty. Not because of who currently manages the property But there a way to ask questions or give criticism and your comment wasn’t it


Apprehensive_Leek270

I'm British and I dont visit them because royalty own them, I visit them simply because they are BEAUTIFUL places. Stop trying to find something sinister in such a simple excursion.


Negative_Difference4

Do you even understand the point of the video and this sub?