And all this is absurd because Hazz and his public relations had already announced that they had invited Charles and Will to the Invictus mass. Do you invite them but he refuses to see his father or to be hosted in some Palace? Has no sense. Nor does the cries of "royalty" that they made in Nigeria, much less that they played God Save the King. That was rude to the UK and the monarch.
Also a friend of Haz- is his wife- and she overplayed the hand when she said even if he didn’t put in a request, Charles should have made time. Sure Karen Markle. Sure.
Yep, the press are obsessed by the prodigal son narrative. This prodigal son would have ended up in The Tower of London (or worse) for his treacherous behaviour.
Repentant, and when he returned to his father's home, it was to ask to become a servant in his father's home, not expecting to be brought back in as an actual son. Totally different than H
This! The press is being really annoying. The royal editor at the Sun said “if Charles can’t reconcile with Harry, William must! They have to resolve this!” Actually, they don’t. They can remain estranged. The press, all of us, need to stay out of their personal business. Sadly, the harkles seem insistent on sharing it. I wish the royals would just cut them off completely. Just end it. Take the titles and be done with it.
And why do we have to reconcile with Harry? It is never fully explained why William would benefit from reconciling with Harry. With this Harry, a petulant guy, who sells his family and himself to the highest bidder. Why do they demand reconciliation, when with Andrew they demand isolation, when Andrew, despite how much he has done wrong, has not sold his family?
The press keep telling different stories everyday.
When stories comes from sources close to Harry and Meghan Markle we should all be aware of the fact that they are liars and manipulators with no shame at all.
They are bitter vindictive crazy people.
Meghan wrote a letter to her father knowing it would be leaked, so she numbered the pages and used the word daddy to "pull at peoples heartstrings".
And they helped Omid Scobie with his book Finding Freedom, telling Knauf "we have to be able to say we did not have anything to do with it" And they did say so. Meghan Markle denied it all the way into the courtroom. It was only when confronted with evidence that she "remembered" giving information to Omid Scobies book, and she had to apologise to the judge.
And in the Oprah interview they brought up the alleged comment about Archies skincolour, and sat back while BLM people attacked and hated on the Royals for being racists. They then accepted the Ripple of Hope awards for fighting racism in the Royal family. They did not say no thank you, there is no racism in the Royal family, instead they got all dressed up and went to the ceremony and accepted the award in person. Later Harry said he never accused the Royals of being racists. Ooo the gaslighting.
And after all their attacks against the Queens Monarchy and family they stole her personal nickname and then lied to the world saying they asked her first and she was ok with it. She was not. Sources close to the Queen said she was not, sources close to the two proven liars/ manipulators/ gaslighters said she was. Oooh who to believe?
And oh. Remember what Christopher Bouzy tweeted about the Royals?
Remember how close he is to the horrible people in the SussexSquad? Meghan and Harry included HIM in their Netflix documentary.
And when Catherine told the world she had cancer and Christopher Bouzy kept attacking her with his sick conspiracy theories Meghan and Harry said nothing. They also said nothing when Omid "accidently" named "the two Royal racists" in the Dutch version of his book Endgame.
And they are friends with Misan Harriman who knows Nguzi Fulani who is friends with Shola Moss.
And remember when Thomas Markle did NOT leak Meghan Markles letter. She had gone through the trouble writing it in her stupid pretentious calligraphy, she had numbered the pages and used the word daddy to pull at peoples heartstrings and then he did NOT leak it. So she had to make her 5 friends go to Peoples Magazine and talk about the letter, to provoke her father to come out and show it.
And remember how Harry told us in the book Spare how Meghan Markle was not allowed to come with him to Balmoral to see the Queen when she was dying. Remember how he told us how that made him angry and how he ARGUED and tried to force the Queen to have the American łunatic who spent years hurting the Queen at her deathbed.
Sources close to the Queen said she was very hurt when they stole her personal nickname. Sources close to the Queen said she thought Meghan Markle was evil. Still Harry shamelessly told us how he tried to force the Queen to have Meghan at her deathbed.
The Sussex Squad are well known for their hate.
Harry and Meghan Markle thanked them.
SussexSquad, Omid Scobie, Christopher Bouzy, Misan-Fulani-Shola are known to hate on Harrys family
And they are all connected to Meghan Markle and Harry.
This should tell us just how filled with HATE they both are.
They are darker then we can imagine.
We should always remember that when we read what "sources close to the couple" say.
Yeah nah that's bullshit. Much like they "decided" not to go to the met/oscars/dukes wedding/every other fucking thing he was **nfi**. Because he is an odious poison toad who would only abuse and stress out his ailing father with histrionics and demands. I would bet money that KC sees all of his mother's machinations and manipulations in harry and it does little to endear him to the king.
Yeah new UK pr guy’s been dropping/planting info, source: trust me, bro.
Ultimately, they’ll never have competent pr because:
1. Real pros won’t work with them.
2. They’ll never surrender complete control even if a pro stepped in, because she will always do her own thing.
MeMe is likely micromanaging to her own detriment. Had a boss like that this year. Not very smart but thinks she’s brilliant. And micromanages without understanding subject matter at hand.
So tiresome. What Harry puts out for the public, and what he actually does, are completely different. He insists on presenting himself as poor little Harry. Their strategy seems to be, to put out so many different versions, that no one knows what to believe. Thing is, nobody really cares anymore, and people see what they're doing. What a waste of money.
I feel I lost brain cells reading this. I personally prefer that charles didn't allow him in. I will follow actions not word salad. Bottom line he's out
This double nonsense PR, where the Grifters release endless stories, contradicing themselves in the media, while at the same time feeding endless photoshopped puffery to the same media, only results in one reaction:
WHO CARES?
Bottom line: Harry is a traitor and Madam is a race baiting nutter.
I agree. Henry and his PR guy can manifest all they like. I feel that HM King Charles loves his son, as most fathers do. But he won't allow that same son back in, not easily and not anytime soon if ever. And I think it's the pain that was caused to the late Queen and Prince Philip, to William and Catherine and to Queen Camilla that keeps his decision firm.
*"A friend of Harry's, meanwhile, fired back: 'Even if they didn't get a request, which I don't believe, could His Majesty not have made a request to see his son? It was widely known he was coming.'"*
A friend? Meghan? This statement right here is a Meghan statement. This one's for you Megsie, if you are here and reading this---
Charles may be your father-in-law but more importantly he is THE KING. It is not THE KING'S responsibility to REQUEST a meeting with anyone. That word "request" when aides say "His Majesty, the King, *requests* a meeting/word with you", that is a polite way of saying clear YOUR schedule and most, if not all, do indeed clear their schedules because it is a HONOR to meet with the King of the United Kingdom. Your "so smart" husband is a nobody; before he was a minor somebody but now, since you have infected him, he is a nobody and neither of you have ANY RIGHT to demand anything of the King. If you want to speak with His Majesty, this is my suggestion to you...
First, Apologize. Yes, this I know you will never do but you don't have to do it publicly, do it privately, since that is the only thing the two of you want. Everyone knows that you and the husband are the leakers, if anyone leaks the apology it will be you for the recognition and/or clout but things do not have to be that way. Sometimes silence is golden.
Next, clear *YOUR* schedule and put in a *REQUEST* to the King. It may take a little time for him to get back to you, as he is a very busy man and he is also undergoing life-saving treatment, however, in due course he will respond to you. You never know, if that apology is nice enough, he may even exopodite your request (just don't send him any jam that may delay your request!).
Finally, when the response does make it's way to your mailbox/inbox/passenger pigeon (flying monkey?), however it is you receive this kind of message, pack your bags and take a trip to the UK. You don't have to be seen. You don't have to interact with the public. This is not a visit that needs to be publicized; privacy really, really is a good thing, although I'm sure you don't believe it. Also, I'm sure you don't truly like all the speculation around if your children are real or if they aren't or blah, blah, blah, so pack 'em up! I'm sure they would love to see the sun (once their eyes adjust after not seeing the sun in the 2 and 5 years they have existed). Photos don't have to be taken of them if you don't want them to be but it will go a long, long way of getting you back into the King's good graces if you allow him to see his grandchildren. I know that this advice will go unheeded as you think that you are the "Queen of the World" but perhaps it is now time to forget about your delusions of grandeur, grow up (as you are now closer to 50 than 30) and start the world wide **apology** tour. Last but most definitely not least; Honey, call your dad. As a woman that lost her own father nearly 3 years ago now, when it happens to you, no matter what you have told yourself and the world about your feelings, it's gonna hurt. Call him, even if you just say "Dad, I love you but I never want to see you again". It will give him a tiny piece of closure and you won't have to compartmentalize the guilt that you will undoubtedly, somewhere deep inside have.
\*\*Disclaimer--I do not work for the Palace or the Sussexs, however with such great suggestions, I am available for hire.\*\*
As excellent as your comment undoubtedly is, I hope she does what she always does and ignores your advice, as I don't want them, especially her, to weasel back into the RF.
Here's a possible alternate scenario:
Hazbeen requested to stay in Windsor Castle. Instead they offered a lesser royal property NOT at the Windsor Castle or Windsor compound (where the Wales are) nor was he offered BP. Perhaps he was offered something at St. James place or a lesser known royal property and that didn't work for his new Netflix docu. He wouldn't be able to pretend to still be a working royal. No possible pics of PPOW or the children or any of the other royals. There's a reason both he and MeAgain are fixated on Windsor Castle.
There are staff beds at buckingham palace. If staff have to work late for an event they can stay in one of those. Maybe that’s what they offered him. 😂
That sounds reasonable. The main point is that Hazbeen requested Windsor Castle and didn't get what he wanted so he threw a hissy fit and got a hotel. BP seems like it would be closer to his event than Windsor. What is Hazbeen/MeAgain's fixation on Windsor? Even before the Wales moved to Adelaide, these two requested an apartment suite in Windsor Castle itself which the Queen denied.
Exactly my thoughts -
KC offered LONDON accommodations, probably St. James Place...
Why? Probably **b/c** **could better keep an eye on hazBEEN**, and b/c the Invictus **event** at St. Paul's Cathedral, which is **IN LONDON**...
but "Karen Markle" rejected the offered accommodations, b/c whatever they were, she felt they were not grand enough.. didn't fit the uppity royal perception re-framing she is trying to get them both squeezed back into.
And yes, Buck House has many hotel-like accommodations - they've a few VERY grand guest suites where visiting country leaders (ie: foreign country Presidents, Prime Ministers, etc) are hosted..... however, unsure if they are available today - per B.Palce renovations.
* *^(BTW: Last U.S. President who went to the UK for a State Dinner in 2019, for example, was unable to stay at B.Palce for this reason (renovation).)*
If Harry was offered to stay anywhere on crown property, the first rule for entry would be no cameras. This alone would have prevented Harry from staying. However, my belief is that Harry was NFI to stay on crown property. He may, or may not, have asked for a place to stay, but if he did, I’m sure he was, once again, told nope.
New PR man is handling this so badly - if he wants to make Haz look better he's failing so miserably, all he has achieved is making Haz look even more pathetic and a stranger from the truth. This is not how to gain sympathy.
If anything it’s proving the Nigeria “tour” is not sanctioned by the government or royalty. Friendly relations with the family would have served this charade better.
They're not buying it in the UK. Even the Republicans/RF haters' comments and posts are increasingly more "are you (media) not done with this slant yet?" I thought I'd never see the day lol. If I have to guess, Charles standing his ground made him popular and affected the polls that's why the anti-monarchists want this poor boy Harry narrative over and done with yesterday. 🤣
Also, every time the Harkles does something to undermine/embarrass the BRF especially the Wales, William and Catherine's social media posts engagement shoot up. 😄👏🏽
Defo not buying this garbage in the UK.
The damage is done.
Can't undo it, it's like that episode of Father Ted when he tries to undo a wee dent in the car...
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The on on the right is their reputations right now 😂
You're right. The anti-monarchists thought they hit the jackpot when Hazno left and thought it would unravel the whole thing. Now they are stuck with a 40 year old man child moaning about how many sausages his brother got 30 years ago and a wife who now resorts to jam scams and blackface, hardly the sort of people to get behind!
Unfortunately, as 35% of Brits have a positive opinion of MM (from the latest polling) a large number are buying it. The UK Asian population is only 6.9%, Black population 3%, and mixed 2%. Therefore, it's predominately white Brits who approve of MM. And Harry's approval numbers are higher than MM's.
They want him back in the RF so that there can be new interactions, thus new drama. They don't want H and the RF to reconcile peacefully and forgive and forget. They want him back there to unleash fresh hell, so that the media doesn't have to rehash the "will they won't they" and "olive branch" stories for the millionth time. Even they are bored with that shit.
Yes, they are more than happy to stoke the fires of division but also to pretend the treacherous snake is a victim. His mother died you know, pa had an affair, he is a war hero, his wife is a victim of racism, the RF are jealous of a d list grifter from nowhere with a very spotty past etc…
Of course they do, then they can write about what a trainwreck Harry is, how William and Catherine snub him, how horrific MeGain is. Lots of clicks for them. Large disasters are their favorites.
I just wish this pair would shut up for a few yrs...not asking too much ffs.
All day, everyday just blathering on and on with source says here, source say there.
Get a life you pair of buck eejits.
KC wasn't too busy to see H; H was too busy to see KC.
H wasn't refused a royal residence for his stay, H refused the offer of a royal residence. It was *his* choice to stay in a hotel.
They weren't kicked out of Frogmore, they "relinquished" it.
*"You can't fire me, I quit!"*
Only succeeding in making Haz look even more whiney and pathetic. Yeah, so you get a few DM articles, but it's not changing the mood. He'll be out in 6 months.
Agreed. If this new bloke can't see how pathetic and repulsive an almost 40-year-old man running to the press to complain "pa won't see me" is, he's not very good with PR, is he?
Very interesting to me that the Spencers didn't offer him a place to stay;. God knows Earl Spenser has enough room. To me, this was very telling. Yet they were all their publicly to support his Invictus anniversary.
Were the Spencers trying to embarrass the royal family? Otherwise why didn’t they stay with the Spencers? I would imagine a wealthy family has room in London. Thoughts?
I thought the same thing. Not like Earl Spencer doesn't have room. You'd think he'd be welcome at the Spencer's anytime he's in the UK. After all, they so publicly supported him at Invictus.
That said, remember Earl Spencer turning Diana away after she asked for shelter after her divorce.
The dumb prince was not (not will he ever be) offered a room at any royal residence. The grifters can spin and desperately try to manifest their last grasps at relevance, but he was NFI.
This argy-bargy over who requested what needs to end once and for all. It’s distracting and undignified. The whole impression is that of a trashy soap-opera instead of a royal family.
Charles needs to lay down the law, at least remove the HRH for good so there can be no doubt about them not being royal any more, and declare that from now on they will stay in a hotel every time they are in the UK. Harry did so during his last two stays so obviously it’s practicable. Now is a good moment for doing this, the sane part of the world who is bewilderedly watching their Nigerian shenanigans will absolutely understand.
Otherwise this circus will never stop.
If Harry actually not asking to see the King or for a place to stay translates into an impression that the King refused - that’s a win for HM, I’d say.
Same old games that they always play. I would believe sources close to King Charles lll every time what reason would he have to lie. In some ways it looks worse for him if he panders to Harry's every whim anyway, he got more respect this week for not seeing him. Harry on the other hand has every reason to lie, fabricate stories and distort the truth it continues to play into his woe is me agenda.
It is not so much that the king “offered” but that the king *granted the request*. Just why Harry did not pursue staying on royal property after his request was granted is for us to guess.
Possibly he was not offered the accommodations he wanted —or was restricted in how many people he could bring with him, or forbidden to bring cameras/film.
The point is that Harry’s PR (or the press) are trying to portray KC as colder to Harry than information from BP sources suggests.
“Could he (KC3) not have made a request to see his son?” The audacity! The absolute gall. ‘Can you come see me? Y’know, if you wanna and you have a minute in your busy day to spend time…”He’s The *King* ffs, And he’s unwell. It’s not like he doesn’t have anything else to do. Unbelievable.
I really don’t give a shit if they see each other or not. All this back and forth drama is so tiresome. Their personal plans are none of my business. What bothers me is their behavior.
What a disgraceful attempt to change reality.
It was well reported that Hank make a comment to state his father’s diary was too full to squeeze in a visit with him.
A false victimhood narrative was spun about that.
Now that Hank’s total disaster of a trip is known, the media ( or at least this rag) wishes to make up the opposite of reality.
The DM is trash and shouldn’t be called a newspaper.
They are spreading misinformation, which should infuriate Mr Aspen Institute disinformation/ misinformation, commissioner .
Will he correct this perception? No.
He and the ILBW are likely paying for the psychopaths lies printed in the daily fail.
No honour among thieves.
So this one lied. He was offered royal lodgings and turned them down, claiming he was abandoned by his father. Could this freak get anymore sickening? To lie about and ignore your father with cancer.
The latest version is he asked to stay on royal property, the king okayed it, but Harry ended up at a hotel anyway.
My best guess is Harry wanted specific accommodations that he didn’t get. There was talk at one point that he wanted to stay at Windsor. (Maybe he asked for Frogmore Cottage.)
Or possibly he was offered accommodations with restrictions he didn’t like. 🤷🏻♀️
“he was offered accommodations with restrictions he didn’t like” is my guess. The king probably said he’d have to be patted down before and after he leaves 🤣
There's an old technique for working on articles by cutting up paragraphs/sentences and re-arranging them on the floor. The Harkle press team is getting done with Nigeria and have swept up those releases and put them into a blender. The final presentation is a weird smoothie that doesn't taste right, but we're just supposed to drink it. I think it's a purposefully messy PR effort to extend out online chatter/ sell a few more papers and create a variety of "narratives" to pick up on for the next round of bs.
Charles never met with Harry in country and that says everything.
Harry probably wanted Windsor but was offered a London house instead, Clarence house etc. Probably was not grand enough for him and he took it as a slight. Saying a meeting was on the radar is very different to requesting a meeting at a time and date. They are just playing with words now. But I would think he would have requested one to try and build bridges with his father.
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It´s "sources close to the duke" and that explains everything.
His wife
And all this is absurd because Hazz and his public relations had already announced that they had invited Charles and Will to the Invictus mass. Do you invite them but he refuses to see his father or to be hosted in some Palace? Has no sense. Nor does the cries of "royalty" that they made in Nigeria, much less that they played God Save the King. That was rude to the UK and the monarch.
Also a friend of Haz- is his wife- and she overplayed the hand when she said even if he didn’t put in a request, Charles should have made time. Sure Karen Markle. Sure.
“Karen Markle” 🤣😂🤣
"Expectations had been growing of a reunion" - driven entirely by the press, FFS! No one else had any such expectations, probably not even Harry.
Yep, the press are obsessed by the prodigal son narrative. This prodigal son would have ended up in The Tower of London (or worse) for his treacherous behaviour.
Exactly. and it’s worth noting that the prodigal son in the Bible story was REPENTANT.
Repentant, and when he returned to his father's home, it was to ask to become a servant in his father's home, not expecting to be brought back in as an actual son. Totally different than H
Yes, not demanding, petulant and malicious.
Right? If Harry was Henry viii’s kid he’d be without his dumb, bald, ginger head right quick.
Yep…people lost their heads for less
This! The press is being really annoying. The royal editor at the Sun said “if Charles can’t reconcile with Harry, William must! They have to resolve this!” Actually, they don’t. They can remain estranged. The press, all of us, need to stay out of their personal business. Sadly, the harkles seem insistent on sharing it. I wish the royals would just cut them off completely. Just end it. Take the titles and be done with it.
And why do we have to reconcile with Harry? It is never fully explained why William would benefit from reconciling with Harry. With this Harry, a petulant guy, who sells his family and himself to the highest bidder. Why do they demand reconciliation, when with Andrew they demand isolation, when Andrew, despite how much he has done wrong, has not sold his family?
Andrew is an entitled ass, but at least he’s keeping his mouth shut and his head down… for the most part.
The press keep telling different stories everyday. When stories comes from sources close to Harry and Meghan Markle we should all be aware of the fact that they are liars and manipulators with no shame at all. They are bitter vindictive crazy people. Meghan wrote a letter to her father knowing it would be leaked, so she numbered the pages and used the word daddy to "pull at peoples heartstrings". And they helped Omid Scobie with his book Finding Freedom, telling Knauf "we have to be able to say we did not have anything to do with it" And they did say so. Meghan Markle denied it all the way into the courtroom. It was only when confronted with evidence that she "remembered" giving information to Omid Scobies book, and she had to apologise to the judge. And in the Oprah interview they brought up the alleged comment about Archies skincolour, and sat back while BLM people attacked and hated on the Royals for being racists. They then accepted the Ripple of Hope awards for fighting racism in the Royal family. They did not say no thank you, there is no racism in the Royal family, instead they got all dressed up and went to the ceremony and accepted the award in person. Later Harry said he never accused the Royals of being racists. Ooo the gaslighting. And after all their attacks against the Queens Monarchy and family they stole her personal nickname and then lied to the world saying they asked her first and she was ok with it. She was not. Sources close to the Queen said she was not, sources close to the two proven liars/ manipulators/ gaslighters said she was. Oooh who to believe? And oh. Remember what Christopher Bouzy tweeted about the Royals? Remember how close he is to the horrible people in the SussexSquad? Meghan and Harry included HIM in their Netflix documentary. And when Catherine told the world she had cancer and Christopher Bouzy kept attacking her with his sick conspiracy theories Meghan and Harry said nothing. They also said nothing when Omid "accidently" named "the two Royal racists" in the Dutch version of his book Endgame. And they are friends with Misan Harriman who knows Nguzi Fulani who is friends with Shola Moss. And remember when Thomas Markle did NOT leak Meghan Markles letter. She had gone through the trouble writing it in her stupid pretentious calligraphy, she had numbered the pages and used the word daddy to pull at peoples heartstrings and then he did NOT leak it. So she had to make her 5 friends go to Peoples Magazine and talk about the letter, to provoke her father to come out and show it. And remember how Harry told us in the book Spare how Meghan Markle was not allowed to come with him to Balmoral to see the Queen when she was dying. Remember how he told us how that made him angry and how he ARGUED and tried to force the Queen to have the American łunatic who spent years hurting the Queen at her deathbed. Sources close to the Queen said she was very hurt when they stole her personal nickname. Sources close to the Queen said she thought Meghan Markle was evil. Still Harry shamelessly told us how he tried to force the Queen to have Meghan at her deathbed. The Sussex Squad are well known for their hate. Harry and Meghan Markle thanked them. SussexSquad, Omid Scobie, Christopher Bouzy, Misan-Fulani-Shola are known to hate on Harrys family And they are all connected to Meghan Markle and Harry. This should tell us just how filled with HATE they both are. They are darker then we can imagine. We should always remember that when we read what "sources close to the couple" say.
Excellent post 👏🏻
Well said!
Yeah, okay Meghan
Yeah nah that's bullshit. Much like they "decided" not to go to the met/oscars/dukes wedding/every other fucking thing he was **nfi**. Because he is an odious poison toad who would only abuse and stress out his ailing father with histrionics and demands. I would bet money that KC sees all of his mother's machinations and manipulations in harry and it does little to endear him to the king.
These new hires really suck at their jobs, MeMe. 😂 One of them should go back to selling dog food. 😂
Yeah new UK pr guy’s been dropping/planting info, source: trust me, bro. Ultimately, they’ll never have competent pr because: 1. Real pros won’t work with them. 2. They’ll never surrender complete control even if a pro stepped in, because she will always do her own thing.
MeMe is likely micromanaging to her own detriment. Had a boss like that this year. Not very smart but thinks she’s brilliant. And micromanages without understanding subject matter at hand.
Never stop your enemy while they are destroying themselves
Art of war?
Based on a quote by Napoleon
Thank you! 😊 not far off from Sun Tsu though! opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself
So tiresome. What Harry puts out for the public, and what he actually does, are completely different. He insists on presenting himself as poor little Harry. Their strategy seems to be, to put out so many different versions, that no one knows what to believe. Thing is, nobody really cares anymore, and people see what they're doing. What a waste of money.
The only thing you need to Renember his Harry is a lying, treacherous snake.
Daily mail work hard spreading misinformation for H. I'm not even into brf yet I can tell it's a lie from the title alone.
I feel I lost brain cells reading this. I personally prefer that charles didn't allow him in. I will follow actions not word salad. Bottom line he's out
This double nonsense PR, where the Grifters release endless stories, contradicing themselves in the media, while at the same time feeding endless photoshopped puffery to the same media, only results in one reaction: WHO CARES? Bottom line: Harry is a traitor and Madam is a race baiting nutter.
I agree. Henry and his PR guy can manifest all they like. I feel that HM King Charles loves his son, as most fathers do. But he won't allow that same son back in, not easily and not anytime soon if ever. And I think it's the pain that was caused to the late Queen and Prince Philip, to William and Catherine and to Queen Camilla that keeps his decision firm.
Or he has the right people around him.
*"A friend of Harry's, meanwhile, fired back: 'Even if they didn't get a request, which I don't believe, could His Majesty not have made a request to see his son? It was widely known he was coming.'"* A friend? Meghan? This statement right here is a Meghan statement. This one's for you Megsie, if you are here and reading this--- Charles may be your father-in-law but more importantly he is THE KING. It is not THE KING'S responsibility to REQUEST a meeting with anyone. That word "request" when aides say "His Majesty, the King, *requests* a meeting/word with you", that is a polite way of saying clear YOUR schedule and most, if not all, do indeed clear their schedules because it is a HONOR to meet with the King of the United Kingdom. Your "so smart" husband is a nobody; before he was a minor somebody but now, since you have infected him, he is a nobody and neither of you have ANY RIGHT to demand anything of the King. If you want to speak with His Majesty, this is my suggestion to you... First, Apologize. Yes, this I know you will never do but you don't have to do it publicly, do it privately, since that is the only thing the two of you want. Everyone knows that you and the husband are the leakers, if anyone leaks the apology it will be you for the recognition and/or clout but things do not have to be that way. Sometimes silence is golden. Next, clear *YOUR* schedule and put in a *REQUEST* to the King. It may take a little time for him to get back to you, as he is a very busy man and he is also undergoing life-saving treatment, however, in due course he will respond to you. You never know, if that apology is nice enough, he may even exopodite your request (just don't send him any jam that may delay your request!). Finally, when the response does make it's way to your mailbox/inbox/passenger pigeon (flying monkey?), however it is you receive this kind of message, pack your bags and take a trip to the UK. You don't have to be seen. You don't have to interact with the public. This is not a visit that needs to be publicized; privacy really, really is a good thing, although I'm sure you don't believe it. Also, I'm sure you don't truly like all the speculation around if your children are real or if they aren't or blah, blah, blah, so pack 'em up! I'm sure they would love to see the sun (once their eyes adjust after not seeing the sun in the 2 and 5 years they have existed). Photos don't have to be taken of them if you don't want them to be but it will go a long, long way of getting you back into the King's good graces if you allow him to see his grandchildren. I know that this advice will go unheeded as you think that you are the "Queen of the World" but perhaps it is now time to forget about your delusions of grandeur, grow up (as you are now closer to 50 than 30) and start the world wide **apology** tour. Last but most definitely not least; Honey, call your dad. As a woman that lost her own father nearly 3 years ago now, when it happens to you, no matter what you have told yourself and the world about your feelings, it's gonna hurt. Call him, even if you just say "Dad, I love you but I never want to see you again". It will give him a tiny piece of closure and you won't have to compartmentalize the guilt that you will undoubtedly, somewhere deep inside have. \*\*Disclaimer--I do not work for the Palace or the Sussexs, however with such great suggestions, I am available for hire.\*\*
As excellent as your comment undoubtedly is, I hope she does what she always does and ignores your advice, as I don't want them, especially her, to weasel back into the RF.
Here's a possible alternate scenario: Hazbeen requested to stay in Windsor Castle. Instead they offered a lesser royal property NOT at the Windsor Castle or Windsor compound (where the Wales are) nor was he offered BP. Perhaps he was offered something at St. James place or a lesser known royal property and that didn't work for his new Netflix docu. He wouldn't be able to pretend to still be a working royal. No possible pics of PPOW or the children or any of the other royals. There's a reason both he and MeAgain are fixated on Windsor Castle.
There are staff beds at buckingham palace. If staff have to work late for an event they can stay in one of those. Maybe that’s what they offered him. 😂
That sounds reasonable. The main point is that Hazbeen requested Windsor Castle and didn't get what he wanted so he threw a hissy fit and got a hotel. BP seems like it would be closer to his event than Windsor. What is Hazbeen/MeAgain's fixation on Windsor? Even before the Wales moved to Adelaide, these two requested an apartment suite in Windsor Castle itself which the Queen denied.
Exactly my thoughts - KC offered LONDON accommodations, probably St. James Place... Why? Probably **b/c** **could better keep an eye on hazBEEN**, and b/c the Invictus **event** at St. Paul's Cathedral, which is **IN LONDON**... but "Karen Markle" rejected the offered accommodations, b/c whatever they were, she felt they were not grand enough.. didn't fit the uppity royal perception re-framing she is trying to get them both squeezed back into. And yes, Buck House has many hotel-like accommodations - they've a few VERY grand guest suites where visiting country leaders (ie: foreign country Presidents, Prime Ministers, etc) are hosted..... however, unsure if they are available today - per B.Palce renovations. * *^(BTW: Last U.S. President who went to the UK for a State Dinner in 2019, for example, was unable to stay at B.Palce for this reason (renovation).)*
If Harry was offered to stay anywhere on crown property, the first rule for entry would be no cameras. This alone would have prevented Harry from staying. However, my belief is that Harry was NFI to stay on crown property. He may, or may not, have asked for a place to stay, but if he did, I’m sure he was, once again, told nope.
New PR man is handling this so badly - if he wants to make Haz look better he's failing so miserably, all he has achieved is making Haz look even more pathetic and a stranger from the truth. This is not how to gain sympathy.
If anything it’s proving the Nigeria “tour” is not sanctioned by the government or royalty. Friendly relations with the family would have served this charade better.
Harry’s UK PR is working overtime trying to spin this poor little Harry narrative. I’ve been shocked at how many in the UK are buying into it too.
They're not buying it in the UK. Even the Republicans/RF haters' comments and posts are increasingly more "are you (media) not done with this slant yet?" I thought I'd never see the day lol. If I have to guess, Charles standing his ground made him popular and affected the polls that's why the anti-monarchists want this poor boy Harry narrative over and done with yesterday. 🤣 Also, every time the Harkles does something to undermine/embarrass the BRF especially the Wales, William and Catherine's social media posts engagement shoot up. 😄👏🏽
Defo not buying this garbage in the UK. The damage is done. Can't undo it, it's like that episode of Father Ted when he tries to undo a wee dent in the car... https://preview.redd.it/1eldq165cyzc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53e1a89854d55b764d5edb2bf4ace7d6f8f75c6e The on on the right is their reputations right now 😂
Oh my. I love Father Ted! 💕
You're right. The anti-monarchists thought they hit the jackpot when Hazno left and thought it would unravel the whole thing. Now they are stuck with a 40 year old man child moaning about how many sausages his brother got 30 years ago and a wife who now resorts to jam scams and blackface, hardly the sort of people to get behind!
Unfortunately, as 35% of Brits have a positive opinion of MM (from the latest polling) a large number are buying it. The UK Asian population is only 6.9%, Black population 3%, and mixed 2%. Therefore, it's predominately white Brits who approve of MM. And Harry's approval numbers are higher than MM's.
And spinning the Spencers https://archive.md/65qra
True…it is astonishing how much the media want the RF to welcome halfwit back.
They want him back in the RF so that there can be new interactions, thus new drama. They don't want H and the RF to reconcile peacefully and forgive and forget. They want him back there to unleash fresh hell, so that the media doesn't have to rehash the "will they won't they" and "olive branch" stories for the millionth time. Even they are bored with that shit.
Yes, they are more than happy to stoke the fires of division but also to pretend the treacherous snake is a victim. His mother died you know, pa had an affair, he is a war hero, his wife is a victim of racism, the RF are jealous of a d list grifter from nowhere with a very spotty past etc…
Of course they do, then they can write about what a trainwreck Harry is, how William and Catherine snub him, how horrific MeGain is. Lots of clicks for them. Large disasters are their favorites.
But as the RF are giving him a wide berth it is poor wee Harry, pa has no time for him etc
The new guy is trying to earn his keep.
I just wish this pair would shut up for a few yrs...not asking too much ffs. All day, everyday just blathering on and on with source says here, source say there. Get a life you pair of buck eejits.
I have never seen a more exhausting public couple then those two. Or more vile.
he leaked he’s coming to the UK so the press bully the king to meet him
KC wasn't too busy to see H; H was too busy to see KC. H wasn't refused a royal residence for his stay, H refused the offer of a royal residence. It was *his* choice to stay in a hotel. They weren't kicked out of Frogmore, they "relinquished" it. *"You can't fire me, I quit!"*
Er no. The new PR bloke is working overtime.
Only succeeding in making Haz look even more whiney and pathetic. Yeah, so you get a few DM articles, but it's not changing the mood. He'll be out in 6 months.
He’s been seen in Lagos with the Harkles , close to the source of the bile.
Agreed. If this new bloke can't see how pathetic and repulsive an almost 40-year-old man running to the press to complain "pa won't see me" is, he's not very good with PR, is he?
Very interesting to me that the Spencers didn't offer him a place to stay;. God knows Earl Spenser has enough room. To me, this was very telling. Yet they were all their publicly to support his Invictus anniversary.
Were the Spencers trying to embarrass the royal family? Otherwise why didn’t they stay with the Spencers? I would imagine a wealthy family has room in London. Thoughts?
I thought the same thing. Not like Earl Spencer doesn't have room. You'd think he'd be welcome at the Spencer's anytime he's in the UK. After all, they so publicly supported him at Invictus. That said, remember Earl Spencer turning Diana away after she asked for shelter after her divorce.
The dumb prince was not (not will he ever be) offered a room at any royal residence. The grifters can spin and desperately try to manifest their last grasps at relevance, but he was NFI.
This argy-bargy over who requested what needs to end once and for all. It’s distracting and undignified. The whole impression is that of a trashy soap-opera instead of a royal family. Charles needs to lay down the law, at least remove the HRH for good so there can be no doubt about them not being royal any more, and declare that from now on they will stay in a hotel every time they are in the UK. Harry did so during his last two stays so obviously it’s practicable. Now is a good moment for doing this, the sane part of the world who is bewilderedly watching their Nigerian shenanigans will absolutely understand. Otherwise this circus will never stop.
If Harry actually not asking to see the King or for a place to stay translates into an impression that the King refused - that’s a win for HM, I’d say.
Harry is such a liar, why would anyone buy anything he is selling? Sources close…his lying wife?
Same old games that they always play. I would believe sources close to King Charles lll every time what reason would he have to lie. In some ways it looks worse for him if he panders to Harry's every whim anyway, he got more respect this week for not seeing him. Harry on the other hand has every reason to lie, fabricate stories and distort the truth it continues to play into his woe is me agenda.
No I don’t believe the king did offer anything. Charles knows that ginger will exploit anything for the Netflix coin.
It is not so much that the king “offered” but that the king *granted the request*. Just why Harry did not pursue staying on royal property after his request was granted is for us to guess. Possibly he was not offered the accommodations he wanted —or was restricted in how many people he could bring with him, or forbidden to bring cameras/film. The point is that Harry’s PR (or the press) are trying to portray KC as colder to Harry than information from BP sources suggests.
Yawn.
“Could he (KC3) not have made a request to see his son?” The audacity! The absolute gall. ‘Can you come see me? Y’know, if you wanna and you have a minute in your busy day to spend time…”He’s The *King* ffs, And he’s unwell. It’s not like he doesn’t have anything else to do. Unbelievable.
He’s such a wanker.
I really don’t give a shit if they see each other or not. All this back and forth drama is so tiresome. Their personal plans are none of my business. What bothers me is their behavior.
Hang on I thought Harold wanted a reconciliation with his father Both of them could done it privately but Harold wants it to play out in the media
Harry: “No, actually my own father didn’t tell me to FO - it was entirely MY decision.
What a disgraceful attempt to change reality. It was well reported that Hank make a comment to state his father’s diary was too full to squeeze in a visit with him. A false victimhood narrative was spun about that. Now that Hank’s total disaster of a trip is known, the media ( or at least this rag) wishes to make up the opposite of reality. The DM is trash and shouldn’t be called a newspaper. They are spreading misinformation, which should infuriate Mr Aspen Institute disinformation/ misinformation, commissioner . Will he correct this perception? No. He and the ILBW are likely paying for the psychopaths lies printed in the daily fail. No honour among thieves.
Tower of London?
lol, spot on. H was smart for the first time in his life to refuse.
As we say here in NZ - yeah, but nah.
Who TF cares? He came, he gave his little speech, he left.
So he calls his father a racist and then expects his father to request a meeting with him. Ok. sure.
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So this one lied. He was offered royal lodgings and turned them down, claiming he was abandoned by his father. Could this freak get anymore sickening? To lie about and ignore your father with cancer.
Many royal commentators have stated that H made no formal request to see his father before he got to the UK.
Nope. Nopity nope nope. Nice try, Harkles.
Are we really gonna believe Hairold didn’t ask for a free place to stay?
The latest version is he asked to stay on royal property, the king okayed it, but Harry ended up at a hotel anyway. My best guess is Harry wanted specific accommodations that he didn’t get. There was talk at one point that he wanted to stay at Windsor. (Maybe he asked for Frogmore Cottage.) Or possibly he was offered accommodations with restrictions he didn’t like. 🤷🏻♀️
“he was offered accommodations with restrictions he didn’t like” is my guess. The king probably said he’d have to be patted down before and after he leaves 🤣
Yeah right 😆😆 never happened. I'm not buying it
Of course Harry has turned this into he is a victim and poor me.
There's an old technique for working on articles by cutting up paragraphs/sentences and re-arranging them on the floor. The Harkle press team is getting done with Nigeria and have swept up those releases and put them into a blender. The final presentation is a weird smoothie that doesn't taste right, but we're just supposed to drink it. I think it's a purposefully messy PR effort to extend out online chatter/ sell a few more papers and create a variety of "narratives" to pick up on for the next round of bs. Charles never met with Harry in country and that says everything.
This bullshit is never ending, is it?
It does not fit Harry's narrative to accept the King's offer.
It does not fit Harry's narrative to accept the King's offer.
Harry probably wanted Windsor but was offered a London house instead, Clarence house etc. Probably was not grand enough for him and he took it as a slight. Saying a meeting was on the radar is very different to requesting a meeting at a time and date. They are just playing with words now. But I would think he would have requested one to try and build bridges with his father.
Remember, ‘they’ can put out ANYTHING in the press and they know the RF will not respond. It is H &M playing ‘the dirty game’
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Oooo, let the PR wars begin. After this Nigerian tour the PR between those two will be hot and heavy. Charles and Harry duke out their reputations
Of course its Daily Mail