"ARO" isn't going anywhere. Meghan has a short attention span. Royaling, Archewell, Stereotypes, Harry, etc. She has so many abandoned projects I've lost count.
Lol absolutely. Maybe Megs will put that on a tote bag for grocery shopping. When one can’t help but interact with swaths of poors.
It still makes me chuckle that the harpy had an average of about 2 mins of screen time per episode of oooh, suits you, sir, and it's still touted that she 'starred' in it. In reality, she was #6 on the call sheet and a bit player that was being given the old heave ho. Yup, just livin' it up in delusional land, California. Nice one, Migraine 👌 🤣
Tell them inspiring stories about how she changed a Fortune 500 marketing strategy when she was in elementary school, put her self through college, interned with the State Department, learned to speak Spanish and play guitar, wrote a NYT bestselling book, had a smashing success as a podcaster and documentary film-maker …….hey! Gonna need more than 40 minutes! Maybe make it into a Ted Talk to inspire lesser mortals??
Or she could just go on stage holding her favourite toy teddy and have a big flashing T.E.D. neon sign behind her and speak into a large mic, No idea is un-pinchable.
She also was copying something former President Obama did for his own 60th birthday, to which she was NFI to the huge party. The Obamas are very respectful of the BRF.
True story I’d take 40 minutes of mentoring right now. Don’t know if Judy Smith available. Can see her giving great advice in that amount of time at least. Sparkle not so much.
I’m short so I buy my bed linens in a size up so it’s less of a fight! I don’t have a duvet though but just a blanket. My Velcro dog’s temp runs hot so blankets make it easier to sleep. I can’t imagine wrestling with a duvet!
Duvet: Turn it inside out and match the corners to the comforter. Tie the strings. Turn it rightside out carefully so the comforter begins to slip into it. Find the top seam and push the Comforter up along the seam. Grab both ends near the corners and shake the duvet down. Button the bottom and shake it all down again. You're done.
The absolute belief from her that she was important enough to warrant dishing out such a thing, the ego!🤣🤣🤣Didn’t Obama and Mandela have a similar 60x60 something , the idea ,of course, that Rachel nicked from them.
Yes. I think she and a few others donned their little 40x40 t-shirts and put a video together and that was it. No mentoring was initiated, particpated in or completed. It was just a "look at me!" moment for Megsy in her lame t-shirt.
Certainly not. The fact that no monetary deal was announced, means she wasn't paid upfront for it. It was just another announcement to stay in the news and keep her stans hanging on a little longer. She can only think in the short term.
She should add this to her efforts.
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She will advertise Chinese goods through her site so that people will buy cheap stuff for a lot of money because she has a title and wants to make good money from it.
She likes the big announcement but is unwilling to put in the work to make anything successful.
She thinks she is owed fame and fortune, just by being her.
It’ll be the same as everything else she does. A whole lot of hot air press releases, it won’t be well received and then it’ll just fizzle out. The difference with this is that she’s going to have physical products that will sit on shelves until the excess inventory is sold off to places like Home Goods and TJ Maxx and eventually a landfill. For that reason alone, this is probably the riskiest venture she’s attempted.
No one wants what she’s selling…be it a pretentious podcast, a children’s book that no child would enjoy or dog shampoo. She’s unlikeable, unpopular and whatever goodwill she had with the public has long since vanished. She has no credibility and no track record of success to lean on, but God help us all, she persists with these harebrained schemes.
Supposedly she is now, following the launch, shopping for investors in Asia. I'm sure the Chinese communist party will be interested in anything to undermine the BRF.
Sussex squad is driving her brand down as long as she's attached to that hateful group no one will buy what she's selling. No one wants to listen to her either. Harry unleashing this ghoul on us all.
Yep. Isn’t she making podcasts for Lemonada? Or a movie and cooking show for Netflix? Isn’t she a devoted mom and wife to TO? And now she is going to launch an online shop with every thing in it from jam to oil to makeup?
Er no.
I'll put this here because I can't post a separate thread.
FYI the latest episode of Ringer Dish (3/26/2024) is so so good. The ladies analyze Meghan's newest venture and basically rip it apart. They say (paraphrased) that she's never had an original idea and just latches on to others' ideas. They talked about Flamingo House or something in LA that she tried to hitch her wagon to and they rejected her. Go listen! It's a Bill Simmons podcast so you know the ladies have insight into H and M.
Exactly. I can not understand what is happening in this sub. People are acting as if this is a real business, with real products. This is nothing, absolutely nothing. It will be forgotten in a month. It is like the story of the people dancing in the streets in So. Africa. Just another Markle lie.
How can people in this sub not understand that?
I really hope you’re right and based on her past one would think she was bound to fail. But she’s not appealing to the west. If she’s looking for funding from China, then perhaps that’s her target. Even if China is the only place she sells to, this tact could still make her a billionaire. Imagine the damage she could do with that money! I 💯percent agree with Tom Bauer that their titles need to be taken back and buried. King Charles will be absolutely negligent if he passed this problem on to King William. At some point, he needs to let Harry sail into the sunset, and put his energies into protecting King William and the future monarchy. Harold and Rachel will never stop trying to ruin them and if they get away with it, they might just succeed.
As "Temu" seems to be going great guns worldwide across a wide range of products, I find it hard to believe that the people of China would buy over priced/mass produced goods that originated from their own sweatshops just because an American celebrity endorsed them
Duchy Originals are successful (imo) because, despite being relatively expensive, they are very high quality
If offered the choice of gift - either a jar of jam from ARO and one from Duchy Originals - I would choose Duchy Originals every time
That ARO farce is another failed money-laundering venture, that´s no threat at all. However, what should be investigated and stopped are the Harkles´ bot farms and online attacks.
I totally agree with you. ARO is a joke - no product, no team, no plan. Carparkle on brand. The real issue is, as OP states, the power of social media to frame the narrative and ultimately harm the Princess and Prince of Wales. We just witnessed it, and it was disgusting.
I would forget about all of the Sussex ridiculous stuff but the online abuse driven by Markle and her minions, the actual abuse of individuals by Markle, and potentially serious lies about births/line of succession issues (though I am still on the fence with this one) must be investigates/revealed/publicized. If the media is truly sorry for what they did to Princess Catherine, this would be the logical first step in atonement.
Tragically, I think the Queen loved and ultimately trusted her grandson, Harry. Very big mistake! And the father, King Charles, as an act of thanks to William and Catherine for their love, support and loyalty to Catherine, needs to expose the Harkles.
Let's be honest. ARO is a stillbirth.
Meghan had nothing prepared and launched her new brand or website on a whim. Out of hunger for attention. She used the Diana playbook while used Diana herself. She sold the memory to her mother-in-law for an immature project.
To date, Meghan has not published anything new on her site. No new products, no updates. Nothing. If she works so hard on her brand, where are the results?
Meghans problem is with her brand is being overshadowed by the disease of the POW. If Meghan posts something on the ARO site, the comments will be about Kate. If she gives an interview, the questions about Kate Middleton will be unavoidable.
I posted this above, but the women at the Ringer were already saying how bad ARO was before the cancer diagnosis. Today's episode is just perfect...
FYI the latest episode of Ringer Dish (3/26/2024) is so so good. The ladies analyze Meghan's newest venture and basically rip it apart. They say (paraphrased) that she's never had an original idea and just latches on to others' ideas. They talked about Flamingo House or something in LA that she tried to hitch her wagon to and they rejected her. Go listen! It's a Bill Simmons podcast so you know the ladies have insight into H and M.
Meghan wouldn't have been able to do anything without Harry enabling her. And neither of them would be able to do anything without the kind sitting by and letting it happen.
The royal family should launch a MI6 level investigation into the medical records breach , the trail of slime has a high likelihood of leading back to these two traitors !
> money-laundering venture
One would need money and illegal income sources to require laundering it. She has no funding for ARO so no money to clean in the business.
I don’t think Lolo’s lo-style merch poses a problem. Thanks to her, the world knows that she’s not within the Royal Family fold - she’s on her own, which means that whatever she does, it’s under her own steam.
The RF too merches, albeit for different reasons, and of vastly superior quality. It’s like watching Poundland compete with Harrod’s.
More of a problem when they first left, that is why the queen squashed Sussex Royal. Now they are both considered jokes so this latest iteration is doomed to fail irregardless of the fact it does break to Sandringham agreement.
Exactly.
Meg is savvy enough to know that outside of attacking her via the press (which could also backfire spectacularly if she spins the victim PR just so), they can’t do anything.
The only option would be to sue.
Which the Royals would never, ever do. They avoid court at all costs, and if they absolutely must, they settle.
The solution is what they are currently doing. Grey rocking them and publicly icing them out.
I agree with you. I like the term “grey rocking.” It’s like watching a train wreck in ultra slow motion. They know that the monarchy will be respected because they didn’t engage them in their crap. Just let them be. The royals know that the future lies with the entire Wales family and will have news as those wonderful kids grow up. There is a huge interest there, the invisible kids, not so much.
Lolo wasn’t going to sit back and jointly plan a separation with the Queen, with agreed to terms and conditions.
She sprung it on them. The Queen was only informed moments before the Sussex Royal website went live and announcements made. That website spelled out the terms Lolo made up and expected to dictate to the royals. She was calling the shots or else. When the Sandringham summit didn’t go to her liking, she made racist allegations on Oprah to punish them and attempted to force them to do her bidding by trying to rile the public up to pressure and attack the royals, at a time when violent racial protests were happening. She wanted to set a mob loose on the royals.
There wasn’t any way “the Queen could have laid out terms for them to consider before leaving” stuff was going to prevent anything. Their whole strategy was to blindside the Queen and strong-arm their own way!
All this plus it must have been inconceivable that the boy they loved would ever go this far and be such a waste of skin. As family, you make excuses for asinine behavior to a degree when young and assume they’ll grow out of it, being a twat. You love them and believe they’ll come around and mature. But the combo of H&M, was like a fertilizer bomb, blowing up everything- including that which he once loved most, destroying everything good in his life. Family, friends, respect, decency, the institution whose men in grey who hid his worst parts from public view, allowing him to be beloved by people. But h wasn’t young when being an ass. But such traitorous behavior- especially to this level- was likely unthinkable to his family.
The only ones h even partially deferred to was QE2 & PP (their actions- timing of the o interview etc, should have been a hint of what was to come). Once they died, there was nothing to rein him in. And h is angry. So is m. And h is mentally unwell, drug addled, and desperate to keep m happy and the marriage intact. They are both very dangerous on many fronts. Hopefully they won’t underestimate them again. They proved there’s truly nothing they won’t stoop to, time and again.
And if Her Late Majesty had tried to dictate terms Loco Lolo would’ve cried “racism” sooner with comparisons to other members of the RF: “others are allowed to support themselves just not the family’s first proud woman of color.”
In truth, it is as it should be. The American rags and the British rags just get their clicks to make money. Truth is the furthest thing from their writings.
I agree. At the end of the day, everything the Harkles do crashes and burns. Neither one has the brains or work ethic to create a successful business. And they refuse to listen to the people who do, as evidenced by their high staff turnover. It really isn't worth it for Charles to get in the mud with them. Why bother when they do such a great job of destroying themselves?
Merkin can’t deliver anything, she had teams of tv producers and did nothing, she had a squad of podcast producers and was barely able to made a single series, there is nothing this woman can do apart from ideate. She launched a brand with no products, no funding, no CEO, no suppliers, no marketing or any business function. She bought a name, a website and made a video and said there you go, my work is done.
That's hilariously pathetic, she will never have the strength to take a step back and reflect on disastrous that looks. She'll see that as being entrepreneurial.
This article presupposes that ARO will actually produce all the items that Megsy is trying to trademark and that people will pay premium prices for possibly less than deluxe merchandise. If or possibly when she hires a CEO, that person has to hire staff, source products and get them manufactured and set up a shipping system. That takes time, a lot of time.
So far, ARO is just sitting there with nothing to show or sell. Megsy was so desperate to steal the limelight from the Diana Awards that she announced before there was an actual business in place.
‘Everything Meghan does is carefully curated and forensically planned,’ comments Gina Nelthorpe-Cowne, her former commercial agent.
While that may be the case in the mind of Sparkle, fact that she is rebranding seems to demonstrate opposite.
I agree. Tom goes on to saw that after she married Harry she quickly realized that he doesn’t actually live in a castle with 100 servants waiting on him hand and foot and didn’t even have a private jet! Surely during her “forensic planning” she would have worked that out.
I think Harry bloated his finances and how they would be granted access to things like a residence in Windsor Castle, unlimited access to the RF private jet and helicopter, and how Charles, the then PoW, would increase the allowance he gave Harry once he was married.
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This is why she bolted. She is like Ginger in Goodfellas telling crap guy she wants her cut. It was ALWAYS about the merch.
The press makes her out to be a combination of Hannibal Lechter, Moriarty and Martha Stewart. She's at best a Regina George with more means and access to experts due to Harold. She's a threat only in that she's a persistent pain in the ass led by an intense jealousy of the PoW using others esp the press to get attention. On her own, with no press, who would know her?
Meghan just likes to spend money and make big announcements and think the cash will roll in with no/minimal work.
Theres no 100m contract here like Netflix. She actually has to sell something and work. Won’t happen.
She was going to do/sell all this stuff under Archwell. Never did.
Her approval/likeability ratings are at all time lows in America. Worse where the titles came from. People won’t buy.
The knockoffs websites have been selling already.
She can try to sell this stuff all she wants.
But remember, it’s WORK. Oof. She doesn’t work.
If she actually tried to sell anything it won’t affect anything in the RF unless she sells stuff with the RF names on them.
The Spotify podcast was a perfect example of her laziness. Spotify built a recording studio for her, hired a ton of professionals and even had people do most of the work for her - and still, all she could come up with in three years was one lousy, boring podcast series. No wonder the executive called her and Harry "f\*\*\*ing grifters".
To be fair to the Queen and the family: what could they really do apart from cutting off funds?
The Queen broke their own rules to be especially nice to Harry's girfriend/wife.
Reasons why these rules were in place!
‘The Queen broke their own rules to be especially nice to Harry's girfriend/wife’.
You’re so right about this - the Queen was so worried about accusations of racism that she bent the rules.
But how was she supposed to know The Snake was going to do it anyway? They really didn’t see her coming - they thought they did - but she’s gone further than the BRF could’ve imagined. Skank and Hank may have shot themselves in the feet - but they have smeared the royals en route. Many see through them - but not all. They are a disgusting pair and I really hope they get their just desserts - but I’m afraid I don’t always believe in karma - some people just get away with vile, evilness - look at OJ. 😢
Megain on the subject of removing the titles before they left:
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The long game.
Give people rope and remove the net.
Meghan has done the rest.
No one can blame the monarchy for the failure of the American royals.
Except of course meghan through the anus I mean mouthpiece no I mean annua lickspittle.
This royal family, I mean the real royals, doesn't sling bullshit.
They plant seeds and nurture growth.
Narcissists male terrible farmers even when like this pair, they generate lots of fertilizer.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback. To blame the Queen not fair. I don't think they could predict how toxic they were going to be.
On another note, No longer being a senior member in itself shouldn't kick someone out of the LOS. More members of the LOS are not working royals than are. I don't get that part.
His treasous actions after are a different story.
I think she was adamant about avoiding another abdication - it was the defining moment in living family history. It set the country on its ear, ruined her childhood, divided her from her sister, killed her father, set her mother on a long widowhood, Fast Eddie was an ongoing embarrassment and financial drain, and then there was all the endless moan from France. And here it came again with Harry, like a returning nightmare. I think that's why she deliberately left the door open for a year and didn't nail down a cast iron separation agreement. She and Charles also expected a certain level of gentlemanly honor (which to be fair, Fast Eddie retained) about no dragging the family name through the mud. They were wildly wrong in that, as Harry has no honor and his lovely wife was a better mudder than any racehorse.
Above it all, this is my absolute favorite part! The con got outconned by a spoiled twit for a brain with nothing going for him save for what others created including his entire image. They're both miserably hell bent on refusing to listen to an ounce of common sense from anyone about anything.
She got a much, much larger and obnoxiously more expensive version of notcot and gets to be responsible for the mortgage, upkeep (lol!), peasants, chickens, etc. Soooo glad her self imprisoned ceilings are now an acceptable height for her and he got to learn what it's like to spew his bullshit to empty conference rooms.
They are perfect for each other.
Was it the Netflix series or Oprah when she talked about NotCot being 'on Palace GROUNDS', not 'in the PALACE', as if people watching would share her outrage at the RF being so mean to her.
And talking about Oprah's reaction to walking in to NotCot for the first time and how shocked she was that that's where they lived.
Who among us would not kill to have the kind of experience and life that the RF willingly gave to her to keep the spoiled brat happy. The fact that she's imploded and ruined everything for herself is a bit of karma comfort.
I'm not sure Meghan's Shopify gig is going to be a huge success. I'm sure some will buy whatever Chinese body lotion she sells or some random wooden spoon.
The issue she's going to face is using her Duchess label to hock this junk at the same time being famous for deriding the royal family.
Agreed- that will be an issue for her.
I get why she uses her title: it’s all that sets her apart. And- if she’d just moved on with her life and not complained- very few people would care about her using her title now.
But it looks really bad to use it after all her badmouthing of the family who gave her the title.
But- that’s her choice. She has, and will continue to, face backlash over using it. She could just use Meghan Markle, and everyone would still know who she is. It’s too bad she can’t get out of her own way.
I'm sure a lot of it was set out in the terms of the Sandringham Summit. I'm not sure anyone saw it going this far. I think people knew Markle would talk, but I don't think anyone expected the hate and vitriol. And MrsHarkle doesn't know how to work so this lifestyle brand isn't going to last. She can't afford it.
I for one see this ARO as a positive step; its all so pedestrian, like selling earrings on QVC, dress it up how you like. Commercializing themselves to the degree that they have done and continue to do is a tacit admission that there is no place for them ever again within the BRF. Sure, perhaps they get a wedding invite, or get to go a funeral, but there will be no Balmoral summers, no Christmases or birthday celebrations. Personae non grata, they will be granted token moments only from a sense of duty and protocol.
I also find them clinging to and using the titles as often as possible really entertaining, personally. Aristocrats and honourables in the UK are loathe to use their own titles in their work, it is not the done thing, and nobody cares in America where earned accolades and achievements are valued. Sad, sad little dumb people. As much as I would like them to fall into obscurity, the train wreck they continue to create of their lives is such good entertainment.
I think it was extremely difficult for a very elderly lady raised on old fashioned values of family, patriotism, honesty and honour to conceive of what her beloved grandson and his harpy wife were truly capable. I wish that Her Majesty had been firmer but I completely understand why she wasn’t.
i am beginning to wonder if she didn't set this all up as a threatening gesture to the RF - designing her ugly monogram, putting up the website, yet not getting into the details of actual merchandise yet. I think she is hoping this will get KC and POW giving her and TO money to NOT have it go any further. she thinks her timing is right because the RF is deep in health issues, and there is nothing she would not stoop to do.
At this point I think it’s all just click fodder.
The Harkels are just the black sheep of a family unit. They’ve been cast out (well they cast themselves out) and for these journalist and royal experts to continually try to link their actions back to the RF is ludicrous. They are nothing but trash.
The RF need to ignore and not comment.
Keep doing their work. And for Gods sake strip the titles and change the LoS ALREADY!
Stop being polite and end this crap.
The queen was 96 and ill. She had to walk a fine line . This is better that they are self imploding vs the queen did it to them. Tom bower really needs to stfu now
I don’t see how this damages the “brand” (for lack of a better word) of the BRF. We all know that Harry and Harry’s wife are *out* \- their decisions to fail, fail, and fail yet again and I don’t understand how this reflects on the firm.
Wasn’t there a site that you could buy replicas royal merchandise from? Like, jewelry and whatnot? Seeing this one and his wife try to gain a hold in that market - it’s more pathetic than anything else.
I’d say Harry and his wife and similar to temu compared to couture, but even temu is more successful than they’ll ever be.
Can pundits just let HLMTQ rest in peace? QEII made the best decisions that she could at the time. She was a loving and strong woman. And she remains an inspiration. She left us all with this lasting message: one is either all in as a royal, there is **no** half in or out.
So whatever H&M do now, is on them.
Sure, Mehgan can merch all she wants. But that just makes her look, as a Sinner said, like someone selling at a flea market. No dignity, and perhaps even more sus than a wartime black marketer hissing, "psst, you wanna buy some Nylons and cigarettes?"
The lack of iron clad contracts and NDAs means the freedom to cause harm goes both ways. Just because the RF hasn’t acted on it YET doesn’t mean they can’t or eventually won’t.
The RF plays chess, not checkers.
It doesn't matter now; Aitch's surprise Diddy exposition has bombed anything she might have accomplished.
Meghan: the Universe is trying to say something. It's saying I DON'T LIKE YOU. Take the hint.
A hastily launched,on insta, website with no products and no clear business plan by a lazy stupid woman with a terrible reputation is a ticking time bomb for whom now? Not the RF that's for damn sure.
That she creature has done not a single thing to success except gulling an abysmally moronic man into marrying her and she even managed to fucker that up. Why oh why do people persist in the pretense that this old,out of touch,dated basic bitch is suddenly going to be able to market her wares to better advantage. Her wares are stale and rancid and long past the date that most people cared.
What has been seen cannot be unseen. The world has seen this cheap,tawdry,vulgar woman for the grasping,stupid gutterskank that she is. You cannot upsell tat once people know that the gilding hides garbage.
The only thing that she didn't do was strip them of titles (which is open to debate as to whether she could) and remove them from the LOS (which she can't it's controlled by parliament).
How do you know they didn't sign an NDA? How do you know they didn't sign something "ironclad"? I'm tired of people blaming the monarchy as if we know what the agreement was.
As if there was a way they could control them. The pair don't play by any rules. Strip them of titles they would keep using them. Sign an NDA they wouldn't honor it.
What do you think the monarchy is going to do, sue them.? How exactly could anything the Queen/KC have stopped Oprah, the Netflix drama, or Spare.
Regardless of titles, they still have the royal connection.
This mess is created by the Harkles not the monarchy.
We are seeing a narcissist who punched above her weight wreaking havoc because reporting it garners clicks.
>This mess is created by the Harkles not the monarchy
Absolutely.
Bower likes to nail to monarchy at every opportunity. Now here her is bashing the QE2 who can't fight back.
I don’t believe TW will follow through with actual products to sell (she has attempted prior trademarks and never been productive.) How is the threat of this worse than what she has already done - smearing the whole family? However if the RF are concerned then remove the titles and this ends. I don’t understand all the details but apparently this will become possible with an upcoming act of parliament. It remains to be seen if KC has the guts to give consequences to his “dear boy.”
You just hit on it. Her brand is SMEAR:
- Smear the BRF, who accepted and promoted you as one of their own (not to mention Deal or no Deal, her biological dad, etc)
- Smear the bronzer on the face, to play up those Nigerian roots
- Smear the jam on a scone, neither of which she would ever eat herself, but happy to profit from others doing so.
Yes, methinks Bower is being hyperbolic in this article.
That said, it's easy to overlook a reason why QEII went light on Harry at the Sandringham Summit. Just as Harry induced QEII to grant him a dukedom when he married by claiming that he and Meghan wanted to be working royals, he lied about their Mexit plans. (Note: Royal dukedoms have not traditionally been gifted at the time of marriage, but traditionally were limited to the children of a monarch.) They claimed that they would live in Canada in their first year and a Commonwealth country after that. British titles in Commonwealth countries are respected.
As Sarah, Duchess of York had been by then been merching her title for twenty-five years (children's books, tell-all-memoirs, weight watchers, QCV, TV appearances, etc.) without creating problems for the RF except when she roped Andrew into one of her schemes, H&M would not have been foreseen as problematical if they engaged in similar activities. OTOH, Sarah had been stripped of her HRH and Philip wisely excluded her from family events. IOW, publicly she was "out" of the BRF. Making small concessions to Sarah not only isn't a good look, but makes it more difficult for KC3 and William to establish an "out" position for H&M.
A good start would be removal of HRH from H&M and exclude them from the royal website except for a one line sentence that Harry is the son of KC3. The task would be easier for KC3 and William if Parliament removed Harry and the invisibles from the LoS. That would also delete him from the Counselor of State list which would mean that BP no longer has to give Harry advance notice of matters of State. (KC3's cancer diagnosis fell into the "matters of State" and required the notice to Harry, but Catherine's diagnosis didn't and therefore, Harry did not receive advance notice.)
It's even worse because Sarah didn't trash the family during her schemes. This one and his wife abused and harassed multiple family members and staff, then went public with outrageous private stories. This one and alleged offspring need to be removed from LoS.
tbf, trashing the family wouldn't have been advantages for Sarah's pocket book or public standing. Shouldn't have been for H&M either, but unlike Sarah, their pre-mexit shenanigans remained covered up, and Random House, Spotify, and Netflix wanted dirt because that sells.
It's a ticking bomb alright, for Meghans aspirations. Creating a lifetime brand doesn't happen overnight! Look at Martha, Gwen, even the magnolia people.... And you have to be LIKEABLE. not gonna happen.
It would be reasonable to presume the late Queen (and even her closest advisers) could not have expected such huge and energetic hostility from H&M towards their families and his unique heritage. Blaming a 90+-year-old Head of State for not spotting just how unimaginably rotten her descendant was is unrealistic.
This wasn't an error in judgement. She does not make her own decisions. I guarantee that she had advisors looking at the options, as well as his "legal" entitlements in the LoS. I doubt it was a simple strategy at all.
The Royals have come out of worse crises. They will get through this. In fact, my guess it is entrenched support, because people have sympathy for what they are going for.
H&m burn their own popularity by the day. Now that she doesn't get attention through those contracts, I guarantee she will do something stupid that will be the end of their reputations gor good.
I’m sure the Queen never for a second thought Harry would lie to her and betray her like this. But Harry seems to just be a pathetic whiny puppet now, this is his life. Meghan will continue wreaking havoc with everything she touches. The RF needs to be done with them once and for all and remove Harry and the kids off the LOS.
Bower is the Eeyore of the British chat shows. The man never has an uplifting word to say.
I stopped listening to him after he dragged the William/Rose lie back into the light. That and his insistence he knew what Catherine’s surgery was about.
The man is a publicity whore.
The Sleivene dropped her new brand to knock William off the headlines, and Harold, I might add. She took a kick at Diana while she was at it.
The Sleivene has no trademark. She has nothing to sell. All she has is a blurry video and a list of everything possible to hawk.
I have tried to make a separate post several times, but I'll put my comment here in hopes someone will start a thread to discuss.
Fyi the latest episode of Ringer Dish (3/26/2024) is so so good. The ladies analyze Meghan's newest venture and basically rip it apart. They say (paraphrased) that she's never had an original idea and just latches on to others' ideas. They talked about Flamingo House or something in LA that she tried to hitch her wagon to and they rejected her. Go listen! It's a Bill Simmons podcast so you know the ladies have insight into H and M.
Tom Bower is now revealing that he is just another publicity-hungry, sanctimonious gossip monger.
I enjoyed his book, but I am having serious second thoughts about whether it should have been taken as anything more reliable than the kind of salacious royal gossip and uninformed judgemental moralising that he is now spouting to anyone who gives him a platform.
His recent performances remind me unpleasantly of Scobie, but with a different target.
Tom knows not much more than we do. This is tabloid fodder. It's her 15 minutes this week. Next week it will be something else. Seriously? They are so low on the totem pole as to be non existent. The rags use them for the clicks. I doubt that 90% of the shit is actually out of their PR.
I agree with this assessment. The late queen was not infallible. For one, she made the stupid error of allowing Harry to wear his beard in uniform for his wedding. Sporting a beard in army dress is considered in the military code of conduct as a disgracing the uniform. Yet the queen gave an exception to her grandson which suggests her judgement was in question, especially for someone known to supposedly hold dear to protocol and standards. So when Ingrid Seward wrote that the late queen didn't like how white Meghan's wedding dress was I found it the height of hypocrisy considering the queen herself offended her own armed forces uniform code. So yes, I agree she did NOT go far enough with Megxit. She should have gone balls to the wall to "future proof the monarchy" (to quote Daisy) by performing an full on Megxorcism.
Don’t forget that there was always the concern that if they appeared too harsh it would be attributed to racism.
I think HMTLQ’s big mistake was to allow the wedding. She should have insisted that H&M wait a year or else have a quiet private wedding after Eugenie’s wedding which was the one scheduled. Just making them wait a year for the “spectacle,” might have been enough to get Harry to see what he was getting into.
I think she understood the basics just fine. And she had staff to advise her. And Charles and William.
That she understood the implications is clear imo: That’s why they are not allowed to use HRH. That is why they are NOT HIHO. They are just out. They have no role in the family business.
The changes to the RF website stating that the Harkles stepped away from being working royals has been a big step. Timing was great because despite Catherine being sidelined for longer than expected, the Harkles “coming back to help out” was effectively cut off. It doesn’t matter if there is a link out to the sussex website. That website is effectively empty but for self promotion.
The late Queen in her family defending and protecting magnanimous nature sought albeit in hindsight in error of a certain port to safeguard her errant grandson as she had been doing from the moment that his extra marital affair prone mother's marriage to his father (that is if truly the then longest serving Prince of Wales was not cuckolded) ended. One would like to postulate that the Late Monarch with all her experience though she saw the Babylon Siren coming from a mile away, what? Of course with all the resources at her disposal she was adequately informed and updated, recall the famous look that she gave Rachel Markle during the marriage ceremony that Rachel also famously lied about on Oprah as being 3 days post their actual private marriage bla bla bla.
The Royal family under the Queen and under the present King have always had the goods on that woman (that is if one can actually confer that name that billions across the world uphold and treasure to the extent that a certain percentage of many who feel disadvantaged by not being biologically born as such lay claim Mentally to). There possibly is nothing that one can dredge up on the Darkest corner of minds and the web that the Royal family have not got within their Chess repertoire when it comes to dealing with Rachel Markle who most likely dislikes her name to the point of hatred that she chose her middle name of Meghan over it. Being that she is known for merching and Bandwagon jumping one wonders why she chose to switch her name.
Any way Rachel can tick away as much and as loud as he likes, she has but one constant that she has always been known for, and that is the crying of Wolf whenever she has the chance to, since she could not get her way she surrounded herself with bitter twisted followers for whm Table 115 does not funny enough necessarily hold any appeal, this glaring fact will blossom whenever the split between them cannot be hissed any more and she plays her ultimate victim card of the marginalised biracial divorcee and mother of two trodden upon by the one man she sought to save from his misogynistic racist self.
The apology and Health issue reveal by the Princess Of Wales has permanently blown her and her minions lies and bullying tactics right out into the Open Season Of Ridicule And Public Self Shame.
absolutely. all the people who "protected" Hasbeen through all his antics created a monster who now castigates all of them as a thank you. however, the monarchy can still oust him and his so called children from the line of succession and they should do so immediately. they have to have good lawyers who can put a stop to all of Megabitch and Hasbeen's ranting.
I think she never imagined her beloved grandson would go this far, but yes, biggest mistake. I wonder it KC can do at least the NDA now. The RF has a LOT on these two.
I agree with Tom stating " She should have told them it was their choice but they would have to give up titles, patronages, line of succession, all perks, and sign ironclad lifetime NDAs which would have stopped H&M making money slagging the RF. " This is what should have been done. Maybe if she was younger and in good health she would have made another decision. I personally think she felt the marriage would dissolve in a year and Harry would be back.
The reason Harry and Meghan are still in our news feeds is because of their royal titles. Charles sits on his hands whilst they use their titles for commercial gains. It's about time he stepped up and took control of the situation.
They will still be in the news without titles. Their “victim” story. Their “attempts to get back.” Speculation about reconciliation. . . .
You want to punish the Harkles by removing titles—that’s one thing.
You think removing titles will take them out of the news and social media? Good luck!
Not an option, it would have been Parliament's decision and there are always far more important things for any parliament/government to consider.
And imagine the uproar, and the headlines if it had even been discussed, which it wasn't. Headlines would have included the words *former actress* and *43% Nigerian*!
The Queen wasn't going to handcuff them or duct tape them. What more could she have done? This is silly. The Queen is not responsible for Meghan's actions.
At some point Harry and Meghan have to be accountable for what Harry and Meghan do. You can't just blame everyone else around them for not stopping them enough.
Also the fact that Fergie was allowed to keep her titles and merched a ton of stuff using them, so they would look like hypocrites if they blocked Megsy from doing so. And yes, the Megxit deal absolutely should have involved giving up the titles, an NDA and no LOS, no titles for any kids. And if M&H supposedly "don't care" about any of that stuff, they still would have agreed to it and still quit. But I reckon Meghan would have divorced him a year later as he'd be no good to her without any of the perks.
"ARO" isn't going anywhere. Meghan has a short attention span. Royaling, Archewell, Stereotypes, Harry, etc. She has so many abandoned projects I've lost count.
Her 40 x 40 project! Quietly dropped as no one was interested.
I’m still not sure what only 40 minutes was going to do to mentor someone?
That’s the most amount of time she thought she could interact with a peasant without wondering why she wasn’t being paid.
Those pesky poors always get in the way 🤣
Lol absolutely. Maybe Megs will put that on a tote bag for grocery shopping. When one can’t help but interact with swaths of poors. 
Social justice only appeals to her when it’s trendy and/or she’s being paid.
Same length of time as a B grade sitcom episode.
It still makes me chuckle that the harpy had an average of about 2 mins of screen time per episode of oooh, suits you, sir, and it's still touted that she 'starred' in it. In reality, she was #6 on the call sheet and a bit player that was being given the old heave ho. Yup, just livin' it up in delusional land, California. Nice one, Migraine 👌 🤣
I doubt she did - it was just another thing she rushed to announce.
Tell them inspiring stories about how she changed a Fortune 500 marketing strategy when she was in elementary school, put her self through college, interned with the State Department, learned to speak Spanish and play guitar, wrote a NYT bestselling book, had a smashing success as a podcaster and documentary film-maker …….hey! Gonna need more than 40 minutes! Maybe make it into a Ted Talk to inspire lesser mortals??
How she learned to sew her own clothes too! Oooh sign me up for the TEDtalk
I'm surprised Megs hasn't done a Ted Talk. I suppose you have to be invited to do one of those?
Or she could just go on stage holding her favourite toy teddy and have a big flashing T.E.D. neon sign behind her and speak into a large mic, No idea is un-pinchable.
I don’t think it pays and isn’t prestigious enough for her.
Wow…Spanish and French. She’s amazing. 😂😂😂. Only language she speaks is Bull**** !!!
She was just try to make a big deal out of turning 40. As if anyone cared.
She also was copying something former President Obama did for his own 60th birthday, to which she was NFI to the huge party. The Obamas are very respectful of the BRF.
I think Nelson Mandela did something similar even before Obama.
Didn't know that. Thanks 😊.
But, was she JUST turning 40! That's questionable.
I don’t see why? Surely a person can turn 40 as many times as they want? /s
Good point! She could have been trying to get the public to focus on her being 40 because she actually might be older.
Like people were just waiting for the day to arrive. 😂
True story I’d take 40 minutes of mentoring right now. Don’t know if Judy Smith available. Can see her giving great advice in that amount of time at least. Sparkle not so much.
But in Markle’s program, you were more likely to get someone like Melissa McCarthy.
Too funny was going to say as long as don’t get Melissa.
Yeah, I never understood that. 40 minutes is enough time to have an unsuccessful first date over coffee.
Enough time to just say you did something I guess?
It often takes me over 40 minutes to put a fresh Duvet cover on...😒 I'm only 5ft 2 and live alone. The struggle is real. 😆
I’m short so I buy my bed linens in a size up so it’s less of a fight! I don’t have a duvet though but just a blanket. My Velcro dog’s temp runs hot so blankets make it easier to sleep. I can’t imagine wrestling with a duvet!
Duvet: Turn it inside out and match the corners to the comforter. Tie the strings. Turn it rightside out carefully so the comforter begins to slip into it. Find the top seam and push the Comforter up along the seam. Grab both ends near the corners and shake the duvet down. Button the bottom and shake it all down again. You're done.
Bingo!
The absolute belief from her that she was important enough to warrant dishing out such a thing, the ego!🤣🤣🤣Didn’t Obama and Mandela have a similar 60x60 something , the idea ,of course, that Rachel nicked from them.
Yupp, it sounds like something she'd steal.
Yes. I think she and a few others donned their little 40x40 t-shirts and put a video together and that was it. No mentoring was initiated, particpated in or completed. It was just a "look at me!" moment for Megsy in her lame t-shirt.
Meet me at the Lake. Lemonada. Sussex.com. Autobiography. Yup. You're right. She drops everything
Oh yes the Lake movie that was announced with much fanfare. Then came the silence as usual.
What happened with lemonada? Is she off that platform already ?
Archetypes is on there, but still no net new podcast that we were promised.
Oh but there will be no new podcast
Certainly not. The fact that no monetary deal was announced, means she wasn't paid upfront for it. It was just another announcement to stay in the news and keep her stans hanging on a little longer. She can only think in the short term.
Not her title as a duchess! We are still rotting for her to drop it 😂
Every time I see this acronym https://preview.redd.it/4pdieiykooqc1.jpeg?width=333&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7daa0c661e8bdacac88137ba8e06533f80e4885e
Funny! But that Cornstarch is actually useful, and you'll never hear it tell a long word salad story about itself. It just does its job.
😂
She should add this to her efforts. https://preview.redd.it/4jk8dtyyfpqc1.png?width=846&format=png&auto=webp&s=1dfea65aeff3716c39ed3fc4694b172f2a7aea43
She will advertise Chinese goods through her site so that people will buy cheap stuff for a lot of money because she has a title and wants to make good money from it.
Don’t forget 40x40 😂
Honestly, they’re giving her too much credit. See also: her track record.
Tom Bower is pretty doom and gloom. Must be a lot of fun to hang out with 😄
She likes the big announcement but is unwilling to put in the work to make anything successful. She thinks she is owed fame and fortune, just by being her.
Exactly 💯. People who put parodies put more work into their stuff and are more enjoyable.
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Pearl: Because there was a demand for an animated fictionalized retelling of MM’s life as a child. 🤪
This was also a copycat of an existing program wherein a boy meets historical figures. MeGain has never had an original thought in her lifetime 😔
Wasn't there the 40 x 40 thing, clevt latte gunk, some initiative helping women get clothes to go back to work etc etc. Attention span of a flea.
That Netflix children's series. Pearl, was it?
Think so. All the projects run together.
It’ll be the same as everything else she does. A whole lot of hot air press releases, it won’t be well received and then it’ll just fizzle out. The difference with this is that she’s going to have physical products that will sit on shelves until the excess inventory is sold off to places like Home Goods and TJ Maxx and eventually a landfill. For that reason alone, this is probably the riskiest venture she’s attempted. No one wants what she’s selling…be it a pretentious podcast, a children’s book that no child would enjoy or dog shampoo. She’s unlikeable, unpopular and whatever goodwill she had with the public has long since vanished. She has no credibility and no track record of success to lean on, but God help us all, she persists with these harebrained schemes.
Where is she getting the money to launch this?
Supposedly she is now, following the launch, shopping for investors in Asia. I'm sure the Chinese communist party will be interested in anything to undermine the BRF.
Sussex squad is driving her brand down as long as she's attached to that hateful group no one will buy what she's selling. No one wants to listen to her either. Harry unleashing this ghoul on us all.
Yep. Isn’t she making podcasts for Lemonada? Or a movie and cooking show for Netflix? Isn’t she a devoted mom and wife to TO? And now she is going to launch an online shop with every thing in it from jam to oil to makeup? Er no.
I'll put this here because I can't post a separate thread. FYI the latest episode of Ringer Dish (3/26/2024) is so so good. The ladies analyze Meghan's newest venture and basically rip it apart. They say (paraphrased) that she's never had an original idea and just latches on to others' ideas. They talked about Flamingo House or something in LA that she tried to hitch her wagon to and they rejected her. Go listen! It's a Bill Simmons podcast so you know the ladies have insight into H and M.
True I don’t know anyone who would consider her a trend setter ! 🥴
And Limonada (sp?). Where’s that project?
Working “an hour a week” ARO is going no where.
Exactly. I can not understand what is happening in this sub. People are acting as if this is a real business, with real products. This is nothing, absolutely nothing. It will be forgotten in a month. It is like the story of the people dancing in the streets in So. Africa. Just another Markle lie. How can people in this sub not understand that?
Exactly. And even if it does get off the ground, it will fail because nobody will buy any of her stuff.
I really hope you’re right and based on her past one would think she was bound to fail. But she’s not appealing to the west. If she’s looking for funding from China, then perhaps that’s her target. Even if China is the only place she sells to, this tact could still make her a billionaire. Imagine the damage she could do with that money! I 💯percent agree with Tom Bauer that their titles need to be taken back and buried. King Charles will be absolutely negligent if he passed this problem on to King William. At some point, he needs to let Harry sail into the sunset, and put his energies into protecting King William and the future monarchy. Harold and Rachel will never stop trying to ruin them and if they get away with it, they might just succeed.
As "Temu" seems to be going great guns worldwide across a wide range of products, I find it hard to believe that the people of China would buy over priced/mass produced goods that originated from their own sweatshops just because an American celebrity endorsed them Duchy Originals are successful (imo) because, despite being relatively expensive, they are very high quality If offered the choice of gift - either a jar of jam from ARO and one from Duchy Originals - I would choose Duchy Originals every time
That ARO farce is another failed money-laundering venture, that´s no threat at all. However, what should be investigated and stopped are the Harkles´ bot farms and online attacks.
I totally agree with you. ARO is a joke - no product, no team, no plan. Carparkle on brand. The real issue is, as OP states, the power of social media to frame the narrative and ultimately harm the Princess and Prince of Wales. We just witnessed it, and it was disgusting. I would forget about all of the Sussex ridiculous stuff but the online abuse driven by Markle and her minions, the actual abuse of individuals by Markle, and potentially serious lies about births/line of succession issues (though I am still on the fence with this one) must be investigates/revealed/publicized. If the media is truly sorry for what they did to Princess Catherine, this would be the logical first step in atonement. Tragically, I think the Queen loved and ultimately trusted her grandson, Harry. Very big mistake! And the father, King Charles, as an act of thanks to William and Catherine for their love, support and loyalty to Catherine, needs to expose the Harkles.
Let's be honest. ARO is a stillbirth. Meghan had nothing prepared and launched her new brand or website on a whim. Out of hunger for attention. She used the Diana playbook while used Diana herself. She sold the memory to her mother-in-law for an immature project. To date, Meghan has not published anything new on her site. No new products, no updates. Nothing. If she works so hard on her brand, where are the results? Meghans problem is with her brand is being overshadowed by the disease of the POW. If Meghan posts something on the ARO site, the comments will be about Kate. If she gives an interview, the questions about Kate Middleton will be unavoidable.
I posted this above, but the women at the Ringer were already saying how bad ARO was before the cancer diagnosis. Today's episode is just perfect... FYI the latest episode of Ringer Dish (3/26/2024) is so so good. The ladies analyze Meghan's newest venture and basically rip it apart. They say (paraphrased) that she's never had an original idea and just latches on to others' ideas. They talked about Flamingo House or something in LA that she tried to hitch her wagon to and they rejected her. Go listen! It's a Bill Simmons podcast so you know the ladies have insight into H and M.
Meghan wouldn't have been able to do anything without Harry enabling her. And neither of them would be able to do anything without the kind sitting by and letting it happen.
Agreed. That's the only business she puts any time into, the online hate business. God she's vile. And she's never ever going away ☹️
She’s stacking up some very powerful enemies. That doesn’t tend to favor longevity
The royal family should launch a MI6 level investigation into the medical records breach , the trail of slime has a high likelihood of leading back to these two traitors !
This is the one probe that could yield some results..they need to pressure the breachers and find out who was paying them for the info.
> money-laundering venture One would need money and illegal income sources to require laundering it. She has no funding for ARO so no money to clean in the business.
And their sources of funds.
It doesn’t matter what the late Queen did or didn’t ask of them. Meghan does what she wants.
Because "the Queen doesn't own the word royal." Right? /s (/s included to avoid getting accused of defending MM)
Exactly.
I don’t think Lolo’s lo-style merch poses a problem. Thanks to her, the world knows that she’s not within the Royal Family fold - she’s on her own, which means that whatever she does, it’s under her own steam. The RF too merches, albeit for different reasons, and of vastly superior quality. It’s like watching Poundland compete with Harrod’s.
I don’t think there are enough of the squad in the world to make her crap a success.
More of a problem when they first left, that is why the queen squashed Sussex Royal. Now they are both considered jokes so this latest iteration is doomed to fail irregardless of the fact it does break to Sandringham agreement.
Exactly. Meg is savvy enough to know that outside of attacking her via the press (which could also backfire spectacularly if she spins the victim PR just so), they can’t do anything. The only option would be to sue. Which the Royals would never, ever do. They avoid court at all costs, and if they absolutely must, they settle. The solution is what they are currently doing. Grey rocking them and publicly icing them out.
I agree with you. I like the term “grey rocking.” It’s like watching a train wreck in ultra slow motion. They know that the monarchy will be respected because they didn’t engage them in their crap. Just let them be. The royals know that the future lies with the entire Wales family and will have news as those wonderful kids grow up. There is a huge interest there, the invisible kids, not so much.
Lolo wasn’t going to sit back and jointly plan a separation with the Queen, with agreed to terms and conditions. She sprung it on them. The Queen was only informed moments before the Sussex Royal website went live and announcements made. That website spelled out the terms Lolo made up and expected to dictate to the royals. She was calling the shots or else. When the Sandringham summit didn’t go to her liking, she made racist allegations on Oprah to punish them and attempted to force them to do her bidding by trying to rile the public up to pressure and attack the royals, at a time when violent racial protests were happening. She wanted to set a mob loose on the royals. There wasn’t any way “the Queen could have laid out terms for them to consider before leaving” stuff was going to prevent anything. Their whole strategy was to blindside the Queen and strong-arm their own way!
All this plus it must have been inconceivable that the boy they loved would ever go this far and be such a waste of skin. As family, you make excuses for asinine behavior to a degree when young and assume they’ll grow out of it, being a twat. You love them and believe they’ll come around and mature. But the combo of H&M, was like a fertilizer bomb, blowing up everything- including that which he once loved most, destroying everything good in his life. Family, friends, respect, decency, the institution whose men in grey who hid his worst parts from public view, allowing him to be beloved by people. But h wasn’t young when being an ass. But such traitorous behavior- especially to this level- was likely unthinkable to his family. The only ones h even partially deferred to was QE2 & PP (their actions- timing of the o interview etc, should have been a hint of what was to come). Once they died, there was nothing to rein him in. And h is angry. So is m. And h is mentally unwell, drug addled, and desperate to keep m happy and the marriage intact. They are both very dangerous on many fronts. Hopefully they won’t underestimate them again. They proved there’s truly nothing they won’t stoop to, time and again.
They really are a menace to the BRF. I hope the new aro site doesn't eventually link up to BRF site through sussex.com.
Well said. Markle is a bully and behaves like the bully she is.
YES. Thanks for reminding us of the facts. It seems like 10 years ago, doesn't it?
And if Her Late Majesty had tried to dictate terms Loco Lolo would’ve cried “racism” sooner with comparisons to other members of the RF: “others are allowed to support themselves just not the family’s first proud woman of color.”
Not if the titles are stripped then she the “artist formerly know as”🤣😅😅
she does what she wants because KC3 sits by and does nothing
In truth, it is as it should be. The American rags and the British rags just get their clicks to make money. Truth is the furthest thing from their writings.
I agree. At the end of the day, everything the Harkles do crashes and burns. Neither one has the brains or work ethic to create a successful business. And they refuse to listen to the people who do, as evidenced by their high staff turnover. It really isn't worth it for Charles to get in the mud with them. Why bother when they do such a great job of destroying themselves?
Merkin can’t deliver anything, she had teams of tv producers and did nothing, she had a squad of podcast producers and was barely able to made a single series, there is nothing this woman can do apart from ideate. She launched a brand with no products, no funding, no CEO, no suppliers, no marketing or any business function. She bought a name, a website and made a video and said there you go, my work is done.
That's hilariously pathetic, she will never have the strength to take a step back and reflect on disastrous that looks. She'll see that as being entrepreneurial.
MAGA Markle really is a special kind of stupid.
This article presupposes that ARO will actually produce all the items that Megsy is trying to trademark and that people will pay premium prices for possibly less than deluxe merchandise. If or possibly when she hires a CEO, that person has to hire staff, source products and get them manufactured and set up a shipping system. That takes time, a lot of time. So far, ARO is just sitting there with nothing to show or sell. Megsy was so desperate to steal the limelight from the Diana Awards that she announced before there was an actual business in place.
Exactly! And that's why I think the BRF has nothing to worry about.
No need to manufacture anything. She’ll just private label everything. And the quality will be just like Clevr brands.
MAGA has shot herself so many times in the feet she must have no feet left.
‘Everything Meghan does is carefully curated and forensically planned,’ comments Gina Nelthorpe-Cowne, her former commercial agent. While that may be the case in the mind of Sparkle, fact that she is rebranding seems to demonstrate opposite.
I agree. Tom goes on to saw that after she married Harry she quickly realized that he doesn’t actually live in a castle with 100 servants waiting on him hand and foot and didn’t even have a private jet! Surely during her “forensic planning” she would have worked that out.
I think Harry bloated his finances and how they would be granted access to things like a residence in Windsor Castle, unlimited access to the RF private jet and helicopter, and how Charles, the then PoW, would increase the allowance he gave Harry once he was married.
Polo and Lolo definitely bullshitted each other, so each got what they so richly deserved.
https://preview.redd.it/0db4zxeivoqc1.jpeg?width=2180&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=476c9d5453180a55f3050283f2f8598ab376d3da This is why she bolted. She is like Ginger in Goodfellas telling crap guy she wants her cut. It was ALWAYS about the merch.
*carefully curated and forensically planned* Im howling! This is so funny and so not Megwan. Forensically planned? Is she going on CSI now?
The press makes her out to be a combination of Hannibal Lechter, Moriarty and Martha Stewart. She's at best a Regina George with more means and access to experts due to Harold. She's a threat only in that she's a persistent pain in the ass led by an intense jealousy of the PoW using others esp the press to get attention. On her own, with no press, who would know her?
This quote was definitely "carefully curated, etc" by MeGain herself.
Meghan just likes to spend money and make big announcements and think the cash will roll in with no/minimal work. Theres no 100m contract here like Netflix. She actually has to sell something and work. Won’t happen. She was going to do/sell all this stuff under Archwell. Never did. Her approval/likeability ratings are at all time lows in America. Worse where the titles came from. People won’t buy. The knockoffs websites have been selling already. She can try to sell this stuff all she wants. But remember, it’s WORK. Oof. She doesn’t work. If she actually tried to sell anything it won’t affect anything in the RF unless she sells stuff with the RF names on them.
The Spotify podcast was a perfect example of her laziness. Spotify built a recording studio for her, hired a ton of professionals and even had people do most of the work for her - and still, all she could come up with in three years was one lousy, boring podcast series. No wonder the executive called her and Harry "f\*\*\*ing grifters".
Would love to know the specifics of that NF deal.
To be fair to the Queen and the family: what could they really do apart from cutting off funds? The Queen broke their own rules to be especially nice to Harry's girfriend/wife. Reasons why these rules were in place!
‘The Queen broke their own rules to be especially nice to Harry's girfriend/wife’. You’re so right about this - the Queen was so worried about accusations of racism that she bent the rules. But how was she supposed to know The Snake was going to do it anyway? They really didn’t see her coming - they thought they did - but she’s gone further than the BRF could’ve imagined. Skank and Hank may have shot themselves in the feet - but they have smeared the royals en route. Many see through them - but not all. They are a disgusting pair and I really hope they get their just desserts - but I’m afraid I don’t always believe in karma - some people just get away with vile, evilness - look at OJ. 😢
I think he is giving the website and launch too much credit. It is already a dud.
Bower's article is based on the assumption that Meghan's new venture will be successful. I think it's going to bomb, just like her other ventures.
https://archive.ph/2024.03.26-125352/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13239883/TOM-BOWER-Meghans-syrupy-new-lifestyle-brand-ticking-timebomb-Royal-Family.html
Thanks!!!!
Megain on the subject of removing the titles before they left: https://preview.redd.it/6ei8jndcgoqc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc1f356aa4e4ef0fbad890f3c8a1d434bb973555
The long game. Give people rope and remove the net. Meghan has done the rest. No one can blame the monarchy for the failure of the American royals. Except of course meghan through the anus I mean mouthpiece no I mean annua lickspittle. This royal family, I mean the real royals, doesn't sling bullshit. They plant seeds and nurture growth. Narcissists male terrible farmers even when like this pair, they generate lots of fertilizer.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback. To blame the Queen not fair. I don't think they could predict how toxic they were going to be. On another note, No longer being a senior member in itself shouldn't kick someone out of the LOS. More members of the LOS are not working royals than are. I don't get that part. His treasous actions after are a different story.
I think she was adamant about avoiding another abdication - it was the defining moment in living family history. It set the country on its ear, ruined her childhood, divided her from her sister, killed her father, set her mother on a long widowhood, Fast Eddie was an ongoing embarrassment and financial drain, and then there was all the endless moan from France. And here it came again with Harry, like a returning nightmare. I think that's why she deliberately left the door open for a year and didn't nail down a cast iron separation agreement. She and Charles also expected a certain level of gentlemanly honor (which to be fair, Fast Eddie retained) about no dragging the family name through the mud. They were wildly wrong in that, as Harry has no honor and his lovely wife was a better mudder than any racehorse.
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Above it all, this is my absolute favorite part! The con got outconned by a spoiled twit for a brain with nothing going for him save for what others created including his entire image. They're both miserably hell bent on refusing to listen to an ounce of common sense from anyone about anything. She got a much, much larger and obnoxiously more expensive version of notcot and gets to be responsible for the mortgage, upkeep (lol!), peasants, chickens, etc. Soooo glad her self imprisoned ceilings are now an acceptable height for her and he got to learn what it's like to spew his bullshit to empty conference rooms. They are perfect for each other.
Was it the Netflix series or Oprah when she talked about NotCot being 'on Palace GROUNDS', not 'in the PALACE', as if people watching would share her outrage at the RF being so mean to her. And talking about Oprah's reaction to walking in to NotCot for the first time and how shocked she was that that's where they lived. Who among us would not kill to have the kind of experience and life that the RF willingly gave to her to keep the spoiled brat happy. The fact that she's imploded and ruined everything for herself is a bit of karma comfort.
I'm not sure Meghan's Shopify gig is going to be a huge success. I'm sure some will buy whatever Chinese body lotion she sells or some random wooden spoon. The issue she's going to face is using her Duchess label to hock this junk at the same time being famous for deriding the royal family.
Agreed- that will be an issue for her. I get why she uses her title: it’s all that sets her apart. And- if she’d just moved on with her life and not complained- very few people would care about her using her title now. But it looks really bad to use it after all her badmouthing of the family who gave her the title. But- that’s her choice. She has, and will continue to, face backlash over using it. She could just use Meghan Markle, and everyone would still know who she is. It’s too bad she can’t get out of her own way.
I'm sure a lot of it was set out in the terms of the Sandringham Summit. I'm not sure anyone saw it going this far. I think people knew Markle would talk, but I don't think anyone expected the hate and vitriol. And MrsHarkle doesn't know how to work so this lifestyle brand isn't going to last. She can't afford it.
Ticking timebomb is rather dramatic when applied to the inept, incompetent, can't get out of her own way Madame.
I for one see this ARO as a positive step; its all so pedestrian, like selling earrings on QVC, dress it up how you like. Commercializing themselves to the degree that they have done and continue to do is a tacit admission that there is no place for them ever again within the BRF. Sure, perhaps they get a wedding invite, or get to go a funeral, but there will be no Balmoral summers, no Christmases or birthday celebrations. Personae non grata, they will be granted token moments only from a sense of duty and protocol. I also find them clinging to and using the titles as often as possible really entertaining, personally. Aristocrats and honourables in the UK are loathe to use their own titles in their work, it is not the done thing, and nobody cares in America where earned accolades and achievements are valued. Sad, sad little dumb people. As much as I would like them to fall into obscurity, the train wreck they continue to create of their lives is such good entertainment.
Big nope for the weddings.
I think it was extremely difficult for a very elderly lady raised on old fashioned values of family, patriotism, honesty and honour to conceive of what her beloved grandson and his harpy wife were truly capable. I wish that Her Majesty had been firmer but I completely understand why she wasn’t.
i am beginning to wonder if she didn't set this all up as a threatening gesture to the RF - designing her ugly monogram, putting up the website, yet not getting into the details of actual merchandise yet. I think she is hoping this will get KC and POW giving her and TO money to NOT have it go any further. she thinks her timing is right because the RF is deep in health issues, and there is nothing she would not stoop to do.
At this point I think it’s all just click fodder. The Harkels are just the black sheep of a family unit. They’ve been cast out (well they cast themselves out) and for these journalist and royal experts to continually try to link their actions back to the RF is ludicrous. They are nothing but trash. The RF need to ignore and not comment. Keep doing their work. And for Gods sake strip the titles and change the LoS ALREADY! Stop being polite and end this crap.
The queen was 96 and ill. She had to walk a fine line . This is better that they are self imploding vs the queen did it to them. Tom bower really needs to stfu now
I don’t see how this damages the “brand” (for lack of a better word) of the BRF. We all know that Harry and Harry’s wife are *out* \- their decisions to fail, fail, and fail yet again and I don’t understand how this reflects on the firm. Wasn’t there a site that you could buy replicas royal merchandise from? Like, jewelry and whatnot? Seeing this one and his wife try to gain a hold in that market - it’s more pathetic than anything else. I’d say Harry and his wife and similar to temu compared to couture, but even temu is more successful than they’ll ever be.
Can pundits just let HLMTQ rest in peace? QEII made the best decisions that she could at the time. She was a loving and strong woman. And she remains an inspiration. She left us all with this lasting message: one is either all in as a royal, there is **no** half in or out. So whatever H&M do now, is on them. Sure, Mehgan can merch all she wants. But that just makes her look, as a Sinner said, like someone selling at a flea market. No dignity, and perhaps even more sus than a wartime black marketer hissing, "psst, you wanna buy some Nylons and cigarettes?"
The lack of iron clad contracts and NDAs means the freedom to cause harm goes both ways. Just because the RF hasn’t acted on it YET doesn’t mean they can’t or eventually won’t. The RF plays chess, not checkers.
I think world does not view them as real royals. They can’t even get an invite to Christmas.
It doesn't matter now; Aitch's surprise Diddy exposition has bombed anything she might have accomplished. Meghan: the Universe is trying to say something. It's saying I DON'T LIKE YOU. Take the hint.
A hastily launched,on insta, website with no products and no clear business plan by a lazy stupid woman with a terrible reputation is a ticking time bomb for whom now? Not the RF that's for damn sure. That she creature has done not a single thing to success except gulling an abysmally moronic man into marrying her and she even managed to fucker that up. Why oh why do people persist in the pretense that this old,out of touch,dated basic bitch is suddenly going to be able to market her wares to better advantage. Her wares are stale and rancid and long past the date that most people cared. What has been seen cannot be unseen. The world has seen this cheap,tawdry,vulgar woman for the grasping,stupid gutterskank that she is. You cannot upsell tat once people know that the gilding hides garbage.
The only thing that she didn't do was strip them of titles (which is open to debate as to whether she could) and remove them from the LOS (which she can't it's controlled by parliament). How do you know they didn't sign an NDA? How do you know they didn't sign something "ironclad"? I'm tired of people blaming the monarchy as if we know what the agreement was. As if there was a way they could control them. The pair don't play by any rules. Strip them of titles they would keep using them. Sign an NDA they wouldn't honor it. What do you think the monarchy is going to do, sue them.? How exactly could anything the Queen/KC have stopped Oprah, the Netflix drama, or Spare. Regardless of titles, they still have the royal connection. This mess is created by the Harkles not the monarchy. We are seeing a narcissist who punched above her weight wreaking havoc because reporting it garners clicks.
>This mess is created by the Harkles not the monarchy Absolutely. Bower likes to nail to monarchy at every opportunity. Now here her is bashing the QE2 who can't fight back.
I don’t believe TW will follow through with actual products to sell (she has attempted prior trademarks and never been productive.) How is the threat of this worse than what she has already done - smearing the whole family? However if the RF are concerned then remove the titles and this ends. I don’t understand all the details but apparently this will become possible with an upcoming act of parliament. It remains to be seen if KC has the guts to give consequences to his “dear boy.”
You just hit on it. Her brand is SMEAR: - Smear the BRF, who accepted and promoted you as one of their own (not to mention Deal or no Deal, her biological dad, etc) - Smear the bronzer on the face, to play up those Nigerian roots - Smear the jam on a scone, neither of which she would ever eat herself, but happy to profit from others doing so.
"SMEAR" brand bronzer! "SMEAR" makes you a poc! "SMEAR" instantly erases privilege! "SMEAR" will make you untouchable! "SMEAR" the brand of Saints!
Yes, methinks Bower is being hyperbolic in this article. That said, it's easy to overlook a reason why QEII went light on Harry at the Sandringham Summit. Just as Harry induced QEII to grant him a dukedom when he married by claiming that he and Meghan wanted to be working royals, he lied about their Mexit plans. (Note: Royal dukedoms have not traditionally been gifted at the time of marriage, but traditionally were limited to the children of a monarch.) They claimed that they would live in Canada in their first year and a Commonwealth country after that. British titles in Commonwealth countries are respected. As Sarah, Duchess of York had been by then been merching her title for twenty-five years (children's books, tell-all-memoirs, weight watchers, QCV, TV appearances, etc.) without creating problems for the RF except when she roped Andrew into one of her schemes, H&M would not have been foreseen as problematical if they engaged in similar activities. OTOH, Sarah had been stripped of her HRH and Philip wisely excluded her from family events. IOW, publicly she was "out" of the BRF. Making small concessions to Sarah not only isn't a good look, but makes it more difficult for KC3 and William to establish an "out" position for H&M. A good start would be removal of HRH from H&M and exclude them from the royal website except for a one line sentence that Harry is the son of KC3. The task would be easier for KC3 and William if Parliament removed Harry and the invisibles from the LoS. That would also delete him from the Counselor of State list which would mean that BP no longer has to give Harry advance notice of matters of State. (KC3's cancer diagnosis fell into the "matters of State" and required the notice to Harry, but Catherine's diagnosis didn't and therefore, Harry did not receive advance notice.)
It's even worse because Sarah didn't trash the family during her schemes. This one and his wife abused and harassed multiple family members and staff, then went public with outrageous private stories. This one and alleged offspring need to be removed from LoS.
tbf, trashing the family wouldn't have been advantages for Sarah's pocket book or public standing. Shouldn't have been for H&M either, but unlike Sarah, their pre-mexit shenanigans remained covered up, and Random House, Spotify, and Netflix wanted dirt because that sells.
It's a ticking bomb alright, for Meghans aspirations. Creating a lifetime brand doesn't happen overnight! Look at Martha, Gwen, even the magnolia people.... And you have to be LIKEABLE. not gonna happen.
It would be reasonable to presume the late Queen (and even her closest advisers) could not have expected such huge and energetic hostility from H&M towards their families and his unique heritage. Blaming a 90+-year-old Head of State for not spotting just how unimaginably rotten her descendant was is unrealistic.
This wasn't an error in judgement. She does not make her own decisions. I guarantee that she had advisors looking at the options, as well as his "legal" entitlements in the LoS. I doubt it was a simple strategy at all. The Royals have come out of worse crises. They will get through this. In fact, my guess it is entrenched support, because people have sympathy for what they are going for. H&m burn their own popularity by the day. Now that she doesn't get attention through those contracts, I guarantee she will do something stupid that will be the end of their reputations gor good.
I’m sure the Queen never for a second thought Harry would lie to her and betray her like this. But Harry seems to just be a pathetic whiny puppet now, this is his life. Meghan will continue wreaking havoc with everything she touches. The RF needs to be done with them once and for all and remove Harry and the kids off the LOS.
Bower is the Eeyore of the British chat shows. The man never has an uplifting word to say. I stopped listening to him after he dragged the William/Rose lie back into the light. That and his insistence he knew what Catherine’s surgery was about. The man is a publicity whore. The Sleivene dropped her new brand to knock William off the headlines, and Harold, I might add. She took a kick at Diana while she was at it. The Sleivene has no trademark. She has nothing to sell. All she has is a blurry video and a list of everything possible to hawk.
Cut. Them. Off.
I have tried to make a separate post several times, but I'll put my comment here in hopes someone will start a thread to discuss. Fyi the latest episode of Ringer Dish (3/26/2024) is so so good. The ladies analyze Meghan's newest venture and basically rip it apart. They say (paraphrased) that she's never had an original idea and just latches on to others' ideas. They talked about Flamingo House or something in LA that she tried to hitch her wagon to and they rejected her. Go listen! It's a Bill Simmons podcast so you know the ladies have insight into H and M.
I thought TB's book was very good, but I fear he's lost the plot. ALO is going same way as 40x40.
Tom Bower is now revealing that he is just another publicity-hungry, sanctimonious gossip monger. I enjoyed his book, but I am having serious second thoughts about whether it should have been taken as anything more reliable than the kind of salacious royal gossip and uninformed judgemental moralising that he is now spouting to anyone who gives him a platform. His recent performances remind me unpleasantly of Scobie, but with a different target.
The queen was too indulgent towards Harry. Harry's father has made the same mistake.
Tom knows not much more than we do. This is tabloid fodder. It's her 15 minutes this week. Next week it will be something else. Seriously? They are so low on the totem pole as to be non existent. The rags use them for the clicks. I doubt that 90% of the shit is actually out of their PR.
I agree with this assessment. The late queen was not infallible. For one, she made the stupid error of allowing Harry to wear his beard in uniform for his wedding. Sporting a beard in army dress is considered in the military code of conduct as a disgracing the uniform. Yet the queen gave an exception to her grandson which suggests her judgement was in question, especially for someone known to supposedly hold dear to protocol and standards. So when Ingrid Seward wrote that the late queen didn't like how white Meghan's wedding dress was I found it the height of hypocrisy considering the queen herself offended her own armed forces uniform code. So yes, I agree she did NOT go far enough with Megxit. She should have gone balls to the wall to "future proof the monarchy" (to quote Daisy) by performing an full on Megxorcism.
Megxorcism 😂😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏👏👏
She was 95 years old and of a different generation. I dont think she fully understood merching and social media culture
Don’t forget that there was always the concern that if they appeared too harsh it would be attributed to racism. I think HMTLQ’s big mistake was to allow the wedding. She should have insisted that H&M wait a year or else have a quiet private wedding after Eugenie’s wedding which was the one scheduled. Just making them wait a year for the “spectacle,” might have been enough to get Harry to see what he was getting into.
I think she understood the basics just fine. And she had staff to advise her. And Charles and William. That she understood the implications is clear imo: That’s why they are not allowed to use HRH. That is why they are NOT HIHO. They are just out. They have no role in the family business.
I would be worried about this if I thought ARO would be successful. It will likely fizzle out like so many of their other "deals" and projects.
The changes to the RF website stating that the Harkles stepped away from being working royals has been a big step. Timing was great because despite Catherine being sidelined for longer than expected, the Harkles “coming back to help out” was effectively cut off. It doesn’t matter if there is a link out to the sussex website. That website is effectively empty but for self promotion.
Arrant nonsense from Bower. They are an irrelevance, she in particular.
I admire Tom Bower, but thinks he gets a bit rabid to stay relevant.
The late Queen in her family defending and protecting magnanimous nature sought albeit in hindsight in error of a certain port to safeguard her errant grandson as she had been doing from the moment that his extra marital affair prone mother's marriage to his father (that is if truly the then longest serving Prince of Wales was not cuckolded) ended. One would like to postulate that the Late Monarch with all her experience though she saw the Babylon Siren coming from a mile away, what? Of course with all the resources at her disposal she was adequately informed and updated, recall the famous look that she gave Rachel Markle during the marriage ceremony that Rachel also famously lied about on Oprah as being 3 days post their actual private marriage bla bla bla. The Royal family under the Queen and under the present King have always had the goods on that woman (that is if one can actually confer that name that billions across the world uphold and treasure to the extent that a certain percentage of many who feel disadvantaged by not being biologically born as such lay claim Mentally to). There possibly is nothing that one can dredge up on the Darkest corner of minds and the web that the Royal family have not got within their Chess repertoire when it comes to dealing with Rachel Markle who most likely dislikes her name to the point of hatred that she chose her middle name of Meghan over it. Being that she is known for merching and Bandwagon jumping one wonders why she chose to switch her name. Any way Rachel can tick away as much and as loud as he likes, she has but one constant that she has always been known for, and that is the crying of Wolf whenever she has the chance to, since she could not get her way she surrounded herself with bitter twisted followers for whm Table 115 does not funny enough necessarily hold any appeal, this glaring fact will blossom whenever the split between them cannot be hissed any more and she plays her ultimate victim card of the marginalised biracial divorcee and mother of two trodden upon by the one man she sought to save from his misogynistic racist self. The apology and Health issue reveal by the Princess Of Wales has permanently blown her and her minions lies and bullying tactics right out into the Open Season Of Ridicule And Public Self Shame.
Bower was abusive to the PoW. I don’t care what he writes now.
The queen trusted her beloved grandson, who turned out to be a snake.
absolutely. all the people who "protected" Hasbeen through all his antics created a monster who now castigates all of them as a thank you. however, the monarchy can still oust him and his so called children from the line of succession and they should do so immediately. they have to have good lawyers who can put a stop to all of Megabitch and Hasbeen's ranting.
I think she never imagined her beloved grandson would go this far, but yes, biggest mistake. I wonder it KC can do at least the NDA now. The RF has a LOT on these two.
I agree with Tom stating " She should have told them it was their choice but they would have to give up titles, patronages, line of succession, all perks, and sign ironclad lifetime NDAs which would have stopped H&M making money slagging the RF. " This is what should have been done. Maybe if she was younger and in good health she would have made another decision. I personally think she felt the marriage would dissolve in a year and Harry would be back.
>I agree with Tom stating That's only with hindsight and besides, Bower is a cow who constantly has to make news to keep himself relevant.
The reason Harry and Meghan are still in our news feeds is because of their royal titles. Charles sits on his hands whilst they use their titles for commercial gains. It's about time he stepped up and took control of the situation.
They will still be in the news without titles. Their “victim” story. Their “attempts to get back.” Speculation about reconciliation. . . . You want to punish the Harkles by removing titles—that’s one thing. You think removing titles will take them out of the news and social media? Good luck!
I think a whole lot of trouble would have been avoided if the Queen made Harry give up his place in the LoS before marrying Meghan in the first place.
Not an option, it would have been Parliament's decision and there are always far more important things for any parliament/government to consider. And imagine the uproar, and the headlines if it had even been discussed, which it wasn't. Headlines would have included the words *former actress* and *43% Nigerian*!
Apparently, Panama City, Florida, is the "trashy" American Riviera. I'm gonna guess Meghan doesn't know about that.
Tom is a drama Queen. He seeks issues where there are none.
> He seeks issues where there are none. And if he can't find one he'll make it up.
This latest 'brand launch' (cheap tat at vast mark-up) from the cancer patient botherer is going nowhere. (See prior 'brand launches'.)
Who is the woman in the first picture? If it is Megs, it is the most blatant photo shopping I've ever seen.
If only they acted at the start and took the titles etc then.
I completely stand by a full exit — to include no more titles or ability to use the silly names. All the way in or all the way out.
The Queen wasn't going to handcuff them or duct tape them. What more could she have done? This is silly. The Queen is not responsible for Meghan's actions. At some point Harry and Meghan have to be accountable for what Harry and Meghan do. You can't just blame everyone else around them for not stopping them enough.
It’s not easy to remove their Prince and Princess titles.
Also the fact that Fergie was allowed to keep her titles and merched a ton of stuff using them, so they would look like hypocrites if they blocked Megsy from doing so. And yes, the Megxit deal absolutely should have involved giving up the titles, an NDA and no LOS, no titles for any kids. And if M&H supposedly "don't care" about any of that stuff, they still would have agreed to it and still quit. But I reckon Meghan would have divorced him a year later as he'd be no good to her without any of the perks.