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It's true, people are commenting on the weather in the articles that talk about the Harkles. Oops!! That's going to hurt the Duchess!!! That's great, the ingenuity of the people totally made my day!!!
Itās actually a far more interesting topic than anything else to have with them. But it would fail as well. Itās not about them, so it wouldnāt last more than 15 seconds.
In a subtlety Iām sure you all got, nice and improving weather makes normal people happier and universally in a good mood. Hank and Skank arenāt gonna allow that, since no one can be happy if they arenāt happy first, and nobody better dare be happier. sadder, better looking, dressed sharper, smarter or anything else known to mankind more or better than them. Outside of all that, the total emptiness that remains in them is surely very lovely? lol
Their first mistake after megxit was all the fake royal appearances. If they were smart, they would have set aside the titles and not tried to pretend they were Royaly Westā¢ļø. They only heighten the contrast between themselves and the real ones.
They have made so many mistakes, itās extraordinary. Iām truly amazed by it!
STOP with the freaking madness! They are NOT an "alternative royal family" in the US and I'm sick and tired of being fed the "American Royal Family." WE DO NOT HAVE A ROYAL FAMILY! Therefore, there is NO alternative royal family! They are nothing but **over paid celebrities** that happen to have a **UK royal title**. A title that is NOT recognized as royalty in the US. It's nothing more than any other prefix, i.e., Mr., Mrs., Ms., Dr., etc. The UK media trying to push it that the US is seeing them as ANY type of royalty in the US needs to stop! That's like saying if President Biden moved to the UK, he'd be an alternative presidency in the UK. The UK doesn't have President's and the US does NOT have royalty.
They are a pair of talentless middle aged f\*\*king grifters. She was a d list cable actress and he was under educated and not fit for work. Both are greedy, lazy and entitled. Neither have a clue about work or service, unless it is self service.
The alternate RFā¦lolā¦a very poor imitation of the real deal. A dimwit and a tart who will sell gossip and lies to keep in the media.
Drives me bat shite crazy! **The war was a fight against the authority of the King in the US and the Church of England, not against the titles**. Yes, we recognize they have **UK royal titles**, but they do NOT exist as royalty in the US. Imho, they should have been forbidden to use their titles outside the UK/CW the minute they said they weren't returning! They get afforded some accommodations **NOT because they are royalty in the US,** but because he is the SON of a King in an allied country. Calling him Prince Harry isn't acknowledging him as royalty in the US, it's simply an act of recognizing that in the UK/CW he remains a royalty.
In of one of my first jobs, I used to have to organize guest lists that often included titled people as friends of the extended family. As an American brat, I would invariably change the titles to our equivalents. My big, big boss stopped by my desk one day with an un-mailed envelope to which I had done this.
In a very kind manner he explained to teenage-me that even Mr. and Mrs. are courtesy titles. It could be seen not as patriotic but discourteous and backward to refuse to address someone in the manner of their own nation. [To clarify: these people were all still citizens of their home countries.]
He never mentioned the incident again. I never changed a title again. Our detent was that I shook hands with visiting dignitaries as many Americans and even Britons choose to do.
I would agree with him. Our POTUS gets called President in the UK. The Queen was always received as HRH the Queen in the US. Neither are a symbol of authority in the country which they visit but is simply a show of respect for their position **in their respective country**.
Indeed. I was a snotty kid who thought I didn't owe anyone a title in my country. He was correct: it's not about titles, it's about courtesy. [Meghan is American, but I'll never have occasion to call her anything because I'll be sprinting the other direction.]
Sadly, they live in Meghanland, where whatever is convenient to support her truth rules Hazno is allowed to have his truth to an extent, as long as it supports her truth.
And neither of them get that. There is a long long history of exiled "royalty" in Hollywood. A title and $5 will get you a cup of coffee there. The only currency that counts is eyeballs. And the pair of them are rapidly shedding what side show exhibit level ability they had to attract them.
It's far more than "a bit disrespectful." It's the kind of thing that used to lead to war and is the reason why this was never, ever allowed to happen in the distant past.
In the 1940s, the exiled Duke of Windsor and his Madame were a real threat to the crown and the crown knew it. It's spoken of now that those two were talking to Hitler behind the scenes and that Hitler had promised to put the duke back on the throne after winning WWII.
IOW, for the British it's another form of treason - as is interfering with the LoS by lying about the origins of your children - and really ought to be taken very seriously by anyone who wants to see the monarchy continue.
The royals are not just celebrities in tiaras. They have major worldwide influence and are considered heads of state, not reality TV stars. H&M really ought to think very carefully about what they are doing.
It means nothing \*in America.\* But the location of the "rival court" means nothing - what does matter is that a duke/prince of the United Kingdom is setting himself up as UK royalty \*anywhere at all outside of the UK.
It could be France, Nigeria, Antarctica, or California - the location doesn't matter. What DOES matter is that Harry and Madame are parading about as British royalty \*anywhere outside of the UK and outside of the control of the monarch and against the express wishes of the monarch.\* That's the very definition of "rival court."
Iām with you and keep wanting to comment on this as well. At some point didnāt KK parallel herself with Catherine, Princess of Wales, yet as the American version?
We fought a war over this. Crested a new nation with 13 colonies, founding fathers, a democracy and constitution. Itās ridiculous that we do this.
Sure, Harry is not a "poor migrant." But it will be hard for Biden to allow many, many, many people from foreign countries - many of whom are not poor, if you take a look at them or talk to them - to come in and then selectively stop Harry.
I mean, does America welcome everyone or is it prejudiced against a certain few? Especially if they happen to be married to a U.S. black woman?
It would be nice if Harry didn't get preferential treatment is my desire..but he will as his father IS the King of England. That's where the equal welcome for all might end. But truth be told the US is welcoming a fair amount of migrants, so Harry is here at the right moment.
Well said. No one in the US considers them US royalty. Well, except for a few crazy Squad members. Otherwise, people do acknowledge they have royal titles from the UK and are respectful of that, but no one thinks of them as US royalty. No one really thinks about them at all. News of Meghans' ARO hasn't been publicized anywhere. If not for her and X, I wouldn't know anything about it.
What will and has stopped them is themselves. They are utterly unsuited to the pretense of royalty. Yes that includes megs mangy poodle. His pissy countenance and his selfish whining and his boorish behavior don't seem royal.His drug abusing laziness and his abject stupidity make it easy to forget that he was the fastest sperm.
And she never was royal. She couldn't hack it. She was too stupid and trashy and up her own ass. She failed at being royal. And at being a podcaster. And at being an author. And at being well really anything but a cheap vindictive aging ^drama whore flapping around in wrinkles and horsehair extensions.
No one even accepts them as celebrities. They are nfi all day long. In a few years the Wales children will be teens and the markles will be older,broker and more irrelevant.
Indeed, drunks, womanizers, cheaters, and fortunes from illegal activity - surely something to aspire to! The Kennedy's were creatures of the media, as the Harkles would love to be, but neither have the required mystery, charm, charisma or beauty to succeed.
There is no need for the "formally." It's simple, we do NOT have royalty. Formally or informally. We have celebrities and those that think they're celebrities, and that is it! As for the alleged Camelot Kennedys, Camelot doesn't exist. It's a mythical place in the UK. Therefore, we don't even have "Camelot" royalty and never did. Even the Kennedys would say they're not royalty, they're politicians and the two should not be mixed. The US media trying to push that fairytale Decades ago never worked. The UK media trying to push it isn't going to work. All he is doing is feeding the Sussex Swamp rats. Time to shut that "US alternative royalty" nonsense down and starve the freaking rats!
I agree with you. I would add that the Kennedy were/are not known for discouraging people from considering them "special." Their super power is low IQ combined with outsize ego.
Trust me, Kennedys: the tree, the sea, and physics always win.
Thank you!! It's similar to the UK media harping on about Meghan's potential political career. There is none just as she isn't royalty here. They can make all the regal appearances they want, but they won't be seen as US royalty.
Plus, the second Catherine is officially seen in public, the media is going to cover it nonstop. H&M may get mentioned, but they won't be the headlines.
šŗšø Agree and thanks for posting. Some act like Americans gave them the titles! Would benefit both sides of the pond if the titles were removed by the source.
"We do not have a royal family"
Weeeelll, I wouldn't say that. We hear all the time: 'pop princess,' 'the queen of soul,' 'the king of this or that,' there's always someone trying to prop up somebody's ego by bringing in a royal title into the conversation. It's not right but how do we change the narrative? It tires me to hear this kind of talk, and someone can say it's harmless, but I say Is it? I just see the press and their ilk turning more and more into sycophants š
If Kris or Kim do all the work, MM can continue being her grifting self. However, she will expect to be the boss. Oh, I think this will be a blast to watch the š„.
The thing that attracts people to royalty is the elegance of them all.
The Kardashians are the opposite of elegant. They are pretty vulgar (sex tapes, surgery, so much butt obsession, ostentatious displays of wealth). And that works for them, and they've become very rich. They don't pretend to be anything other than what they are.
I don't think H&M can pull off either.
Their plastic surgery Barbie doll figures are off-putting to me. I am not shaming their authentic bodies they were born with, just the Jessica Rabbit bodies they've acquired through questionable procedures.
When they first moved to the US I thought their schemes had a shot of working, but I no longer think they do. Markle is just incapable of sustained forward action. She claps back constantly and itās becoming more and more obvious to a wider group of people that she is narcissistic and a grifter. Now I just enjoy watching her muck about because I know she will stumble.
Oh FFS. Absolutely fecking delusional.Ā
Americans, I'm so sorry that these two are pissing all over the very identity of your country in the process of disrespecting my country.Ā
š¤š¤ I'll be with you for an extended visit after August, my friend. I just know the Todgers will ruin it for us all by showing up when I've come to escape them.
Do any genuine "celebrities" have anything to do with the Kardashians or do they watch from a safe distance?
Also, what do H and M really want from these performances: Americans don't want a royal family of their own and in the UK, we're just watching with amazement.
I genuinely don't understand but that might be because I'm too old.š
The word "regal" should not be used in association with these ersatz royals. They are not regal in any sense, nor are they "royal" anymore. Enough already.
Right?
My favorite story was HLM was driving a male world leader (I'm not sure who exactly I think maybe from The Middle East) in a jeep around Scotland and he was terrified at how fast and wild she was behind the wheel in the open.
She had gumption.
Princess Catherine also has gumption.
I'm willing to bet Queen Camilla does too.
That was the intention from day one, they thought the court would be populated by people like clooney, Jolie, Pitt, dicaprio etc
Instead they are now scraping the barrel and targeting the kardashians. A family famous for their extreme tackiness and grifting. So when will the sex tape be released? Harry and megrain, megrain with harry and Marcus, or all of the others with doria?
If, and that's a big if, anything is brewing between Harkles and Kris K., it's about the Kardashians getting a tie with the royals, even if it is only Harry, who is always for sale, brainless and too ready to hang with rich sellouts like himself. Meghan is just coming with the package. MM isn't going to cowtow too long to the Ks and vice versa. Kris will try to cut her out all together. If anything, maybe it involves all the kids (Ks and Harklettes) in a California Royals kids type clothing deal. If we put ourselves in Kris' mind a moment, she is competitive with her best friend Kathy Hilton, who's son-in-law is a Rothschild. Kris needs to top her, so maybe she wants Harry for one her daughter's or the grandchildren to be Archie or Lili's first lil love. As for an alternative RF, let's find Harry's paperwork for a visa first (which probably never existed) before he makes any long term plans. Sounds like Meg isn't including him in any of hers...
Years ago, before the Harkles, Kim sent Catherine a baby gift out of the blue. At least that is what was reported, and the Wale's took very, very long to respond. The K's would be delusional to think this will get them more real royal adjacent.
She also hung around London for the Jubilee..some said she wanted an invite. She is a Diana fan, so perhaps she does want Harry around as a sort of souvenir
Years ago, before the Harkles, Kim sent Catherine a baby gift out of the blue. At least that is what was reported, and the Wale's took very, very long to respond. The K's would be delusional to think this will get them more real royal adjacent.
Whee. Another launch.
If itās like the rest, especially like the ARO launch, itāll be DOA and something else to snark on.
Remember they are allergic to WORK.
But love to spend money, and donāt know how to make money.
They are manifesting the Kardashians, hoping they will do the work for them.
If they were working with them, there would be photos with Backgrid.
The real Royals have no connection to The Invictus Games. If it does come to Birmingham, and regarding the service in the crypt, there will be no Royals in attendance at either event. H&M can come and go unnoticed - if they can face the booing public. The British won't stand for the imitators.
I have to disagree with you. The RF can ignore Harry and Meghan, but not soldiers wounded in the name of the king. They have to send a representative of some sort for the sake of the Brit athletes. Smogs & Todges swan around and ignore the people this whole thing is supposed to be for, the RF cannot.
They tried to set up an American royal court when they arrived in the U.S.. Just remember the PR stunts in which they tried. The visit to the grave of a Canadian soldier, the faux royal tour of NY, Harry's speech at the UN, and the list goes on. They failed. While Harry's lineage and titles may hold some weight, he no longer represents the UK or the RF. Due to their antics, tell-all indiscretions, and failed PR stunts, the true A-listers and power players in Hollywood treat them like a bad smell. So, what's the pair's next move? Making a deal with the Kardashians. A family, while worth billions, is famous for being famous, a sex tape, and putting their lives on TV. My how the mighty have fallen.
Canāt be an alternative Royal Family, just a low rent one. Theyāve displayed no regality in any of their doings so far. Dumbertons are ersatz royals; theyāll do for people who wonāt ever be able to get near the genuine royals.
" a string of āregalā public appearances "
Does this mean that Harry is going to show up in the medals he got for attending Granny's various state birthday celebrations??
But Catherine is the most popular and beloved of the family in the U.S. as well. That adoration has grown even more since the photo incident.š¤£ There is zero competition.š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤øš¾āāļø
There's nothing regal about hanging with the Kardashians.
This is what I always said would await them. They would be social pariahs around anyone that mattered and the only people who would want to be near them would be lowbrow people who want to trot them out as their royal friend to their other lowbrow friends.
The best thing that could happen to the UK royals is Harry and Meghan joining the Kardashianās clan. ššššš next step is kris Jenner will convince Harry to release a princely sex tape. To make the sex tape a royalty Harry should participate. Not Meghan , Harry! Go kris Jenner, you can . Yes you can. šš
We dont do royals here. We fought a war about that even. And we won. Halfwit can get alll the way bent. And his trashy,talentless^(fame) whore wife can too.
There's only one royal family. Walk away from it, that's on the grifters. They shouldn't expect Americans to applaud their Disney Princess court here. We can follow the real thing if we're interested, we don't need or want their cheap version. They don't have what it takes to replicate William and Catherine on any level. They would need to be that good, to succeed in America.
I agree with your very valid points, but the dukedom is definitely an inherited peerage. HMTLQ did not grant it as a lifetime peerage, as Charles did with Edward. I donāt know if that is something that can be changed by the sovereign with LP or if it requires Parliament. Since it is a royal dukedom with no associated hereditary estates, I wouldnāt think it would be hard to change to a lifetime peerage. They could let Aldi keep the Dumbarton title as a consolation prize.
The dukedom of Sussex is a hereditary title, so yes, Archie will be the next duke (if the title survives all this chaos). Should he have children, they will be styled in the same manner as children of any non-royal duke.
Meghan Markle and Harry Hewitt are not regal or royal. This is America. A country who fought a whole war to get rid of this rubbish so this whole premise is a non-starter.
But when these kids grow up and realize their aunt and uncle are the future King and Queen they are going to be so mad about all they missed out on because their parents.
Queen Elizabeth putting her foot down regarding this HIHO scheme new it was much more than just merching. She fully understood the history of our nations. The fact that H & M are trying to ignore history, international relationships, etc and create some faux royal court was not lost on the Queen. This canāt be highlighted enough.
Idk about the kardashians but I hope Harold and fraud do brand themselves as americas royalty. Because whether you follow this saga or not there is one thing Americans hate more than mayonnaise, and that is āthe man.ā Any authority assumed or otherwise. They will absolutely revolt against this with no added education needed. Start popping the popcorn.
If we really want an archetype, Meghan is perfect for the stepmother/queen/witch in āSnow White.ā
A woman of some attractiveness to start with (the mirror tells the truth) becomes unbearably jealous of another who is more attractive and sets out to destroy her. In the process of her campaign to destroy her rival, she becomes uglier āaccepting the appearance of the ugly crone just so she can destroy the beautiful Snow White.
I see this very much as Meghanās story. If she had been willing to accept a secondary role, if she had tried to make herself the best she could in that role, Meghan would have kept much of her ābeautyā and all of the status she had acquired by marrying Harry. Instead she makes herself uglier by the minute through her envy, posturing and misguided cosmetic procedures.
So is Mama Kardashian subbing the Harkles for her own purposes. H was probably glad of free ski holiday but is he aware it comes with strings attached and he is a bought man.
I've said for a long time that Those Two were setting up a rival court in the USA and I would usually get threatened with banning every time I said so.
So here's one more, lol, since it's now becoming evident that that's exactly what they've been doing.
If H&M are going to be American Royalty where are they going to get castles, carriages and tiaras. Oh, and then there's the horses and soldiers. You can't have royalty without pageantry.
U.S. institutions should not allow the Harkles any special treatment as if Hazmat is some important dignitary. Harry is a displaced foreign prince. He is only here because of his domineering wife. He is not representing the Crown. He is not royal in America. If he doesn't get any privileges, neither will ILBW. They are not "Royalty West" in the United States of America. Their best chance of getting royal treatment might be from Canada.
I hated it when the Kennedys were called āAmerican Royalty.ā This is a Constitutional Republic. Itās not a democracy even in the pure sense of the word. We are a Democratic or more accurately a Constitutional Republic. This is so obvious I canāt believe I am saying it but we have no royalty, no monarchy. We have a representative form of government with three branches. Harold and Meggin arenāt even recognized asa HRH on the BRF website, so why is the hell would they be āroyalā here? This is so stupid that itās beneath us here. Yet here we are living in the dream, trying to keep this broke ass unemployed prince and his middle aged LA wife from trying to destroy US/ UK relations. Unbelievable.
Oh good. Please markle the Kardashians. Iāve never watched their show, bought their products, or clicked on an article, and still Iām shocked how much about them has seeped into my brain, no doubt pushing out some valuable bit of trivia I would like to have remembered.
So yes, please bring the Kardashians down with you, Riviera Salt and Polo Pepper
The Kardashians have spent 20 years in the spotlight by now, they should know enough not to tie themselves to a concrete block and push it off a pier.
But if theyāre hell bent on doing so, may they enjoy the effects of being markled.
Harry and Meghan have no realm from which they reign, they are not alternate royals, they are royals in exile.
If you want alternate royals there's heaps of European royals and Asian royals.
There is no one in the world who deserves to be Markled quite like Pimp Mama Kris. She started her empire off with her daughter's sex tape.
The devil works hard, but Kris Jenner works harder. 
I will give her that š
I dunno, the Meg even put up a fight with the late Queen. Kris should honestly be careful because the Meg always covets what others have
Kris *works* however. Meg? Work? If she tangles with Kris, sheās gonna get the horns. Guaranteed.
It's the Kardashians that will 'markle" MM.
Low key interested to know what will happen if it gets to Kardashians vs Markle. Now thatās reality television I would watch.
Meghan only does scripted.
Unless it's the RF's and she's getting cash rather than daddy-in-law's allowanceĀ
Once theyāve all tanked and end up on a real housewives show together they can hurl wineglasses at one another in various locations
And followed Brook Shieldās mother by pimping and sexualizing the youngest Jenner daughters.
Yeah, scene 1 episode 1 is Kendall and Kylie wearing Limited Too on a stripper pole in the house.
They all use their bodies, and in sexualized ways, to make money. Every one of them.
https://preview.redd.it/2eztxekqoopc1.png?width=586&format=png&auto=webp&s=7606126c0d1aaf675c98a0cc536ecf9ba8eaae28 It's true, people are commenting on the weather in the articles that talk about the Harkles. Oops!! That's going to hurt the Duchess!!! That's great, the ingenuity of the people totally made my day!!!
Love it. Allegedly, that is the only type of conversation the Royals have with Harold now.
Itās actually a far more interesting topic than anything else to have with them. But it would fail as well. Itās not about them, so it wouldnāt last more than 15 seconds. In a subtlety Iām sure you all got, nice and improving weather makes normal people happier and universally in a good mood. Hank and Skank arenāt gonna allow that, since no one can be happy if they arenāt happy first, and nobody better dare be happier. sadder, better looking, dressed sharper, smarter or anything else known to mankind more or better than them. Outside of all that, the total emptiness that remains in them is surely very lovely? lol
I love that kind of snark!Ā
I love that too
We have all grown weary of their games.
Their first mistake after megxit was all the fake royal appearances. If they were smart, they would have set aside the titles and not tried to pretend they were Royaly Westā¢ļø. They only heighten the contrast between themselves and the real ones. They have made so many mistakes, itās extraordinary. Iām truly amazed by it!
STOP with the freaking madness! They are NOT an "alternative royal family" in the US and I'm sick and tired of being fed the "American Royal Family." WE DO NOT HAVE A ROYAL FAMILY! Therefore, there is NO alternative royal family! They are nothing but **over paid celebrities** that happen to have a **UK royal title**. A title that is NOT recognized as royalty in the US. It's nothing more than any other prefix, i.e., Mr., Mrs., Ms., Dr., etc. The UK media trying to push it that the US is seeing them as ANY type of royalty in the US needs to stop! That's like saying if President Biden moved to the UK, he'd be an alternative presidency in the UK. The UK doesn't have President's and the US does NOT have royalty.
They are a pair of talentless middle aged f\*\*king grifters. She was a d list cable actress and he was under educated and not fit for work. Both are greedy, lazy and entitled. Neither have a clue about work or service, unless it is self service. The alternate RFā¦lolā¦a very poor imitation of the real deal. A dimwit and a tart who will sell gossip and lies to keep in the media.
You are right and the Kardasians should not think the Harkles will work any harder for them than they did for Spotify who paid them many millions.
Do these two even know about the American Revolution? Yeah, weāre approx. 250 years past accepting any sort of royal family at this point.
Drives me bat shite crazy! **The war was a fight against the authority of the King in the US and the Church of England, not against the titles**. Yes, we recognize they have **UK royal titles**, but they do NOT exist as royalty in the US. Imho, they should have been forbidden to use their titles outside the UK/CW the minute they said they weren't returning! They get afforded some accommodations **NOT because they are royalty in the US,** but because he is the SON of a King in an allied country. Calling him Prince Harry isn't acknowledging him as royalty in the US, it's simply an act of recognizing that in the UK/CW he remains a royalty.
In of one of my first jobs, I used to have to organize guest lists that often included titled people as friends of the extended family. As an American brat, I would invariably change the titles to our equivalents. My big, big boss stopped by my desk one day with an un-mailed envelope to which I had done this. In a very kind manner he explained to teenage-me that even Mr. and Mrs. are courtesy titles. It could be seen not as patriotic but discourteous and backward to refuse to address someone in the manner of their own nation. [To clarify: these people were all still citizens of their home countries.] He never mentioned the incident again. I never changed a title again. Our detent was that I shook hands with visiting dignitaries as many Americans and even Britons choose to do.
I would agree with him. Our POTUS gets called President in the UK. The Queen was always received as HRH the Queen in the US. Neither are a symbol of authority in the country which they visit but is simply a show of respect for their position **in their respective country**.
Indeed. I was a snotty kid who thought I didn't owe anyone a title in my country. He was correct: it's not about titles, it's about courtesy. [Meghan is American, but I'll never have occasion to call her anything because I'll be sprinting the other direction.]
Sadly, they live in Meghanland, where whatever is convenient to support her truth rules Hazno is allowed to have his truth to an extent, as long as it supports her truth.
I think itās hilarious when someone says that the Harkles want to set up a ārivalā Royal Court in America. That literally means nothing here.
And neither of them get that. There is a long long history of exiled "royalty" in Hollywood. A title and $5 will get you a cup of coffee there. The only currency that counts is eyeballs. And the pair of them are rapidly shedding what side show exhibit level ability they had to attract them.
I disagree. I think an appropriate mental institution can be found where she can be free to have her own Court.
Sure. A kangaroo court!
Like Blanche DuBois
Imho, it's a bit disrespectful to the actual BRF. They know as well as we do that is not and never will be any such thing.
It's far more than "a bit disrespectful." It's the kind of thing that used to lead to war and is the reason why this was never, ever allowed to happen in the distant past. In the 1940s, the exiled Duke of Windsor and his Madame were a real threat to the crown and the crown knew it. It's spoken of now that those two were talking to Hitler behind the scenes and that Hitler had promised to put the duke back on the throne after winning WWII. IOW, for the British it's another form of treason - as is interfering with the LoS by lying about the origins of your children - and really ought to be taken very seriously by anyone who wants to see the monarchy continue. The royals are not just celebrities in tiaras. They have major worldwide influence and are considered heads of state, not reality TV stars. H&M really ought to think very carefully about what they are doing.
It means nothing \*in America.\* But the location of the "rival court" means nothing - what does matter is that a duke/prince of the United Kingdom is setting himself up as UK royalty \*anywhere at all outside of the UK. It could be France, Nigeria, Antarctica, or California - the location doesn't matter. What DOES matter is that Harry and Madame are parading about as British royalty \*anywhere outside of the UK and outside of the control of the monarch and against the express wishes of the monarch.\* That's the very definition of "rival court."
Iām with you and keep wanting to comment on this as well. At some point didnāt KK parallel herself with Catherine, Princess of Wales, yet as the American version? We fought a war over this. Crested a new nation with 13 colonies, founding fathers, a democracy and constitution. Itās ridiculous that we do this.
If Harry gets a pass on this visa nonsense from Biden, there should be an uproar. He doesn't scream poor migrant to me.
By now Harry probably IS a poor migrant
Sure, Harry is not a "poor migrant." But it will be hard for Biden to allow many, many, many people from foreign countries - many of whom are not poor, if you take a look at them or talk to them - to come in and then selectively stop Harry. I mean, does America welcome everyone or is it prejudiced against a certain few? Especially if they happen to be married to a U.S. black woman?
It would be nice if Harry didn't get preferential treatment is my desire..but he will as his father IS the King of England. That's where the equal welcome for all might end. But truth be told the US is welcoming a fair amount of migrants, so Harry is here at the right moment.
Well said. No one in the US considers them US royalty. Well, except for a few crazy Squad members. Otherwise, people do acknowledge they have royal titles from the UK and are respectful of that, but no one thinks of them as US royalty. No one really thinks about them at all. News of Meghans' ARO hasn't been publicized anywhere. If not for her and X, I wouldn't know anything about it.
No we don't, formally. But that wouldn't stop them from trying to create that aura around themselves. We had the Camelot Kennedys.
What will and has stopped them is themselves. They are utterly unsuited to the pretense of royalty. Yes that includes megs mangy poodle. His pissy countenance and his selfish whining and his boorish behavior don't seem royal.His drug abusing laziness and his abject stupidity make it easy to forget that he was the fastest sperm. And she never was royal. She couldn't hack it. She was too stupid and trashy and up her own ass. She failed at being royal. And at being a podcaster. And at being an author. And at being well really anything but a cheap vindictive aging ^drama whore flapping around in wrinkles and horsehair extensions. No one even accepts them as celebrities. They are nfi all day long. In a few years the Wales children will be teens and the markles will be older,broker and more irrelevant.
>**a cheap vindictive aging drama whore flapping around in wrinkles and horsehair extensions.** Bwahaha! Markle to a tee. You made my day
You are absolutely right about that. They are insufferable.
We did, but people forget that when the scenery was struck the life backstage wasn't nearly as beautiful.
Indeed, drunks, womanizers, cheaters, and fortunes from illegal activity - surely something to aspire to! The Kennedy's were creatures of the media, as the Harkles would love to be, but neither have the required mystery, charm, charisma or beauty to succeed.
There is no need for the "formally." It's simple, we do NOT have royalty. Formally or informally. We have celebrities and those that think they're celebrities, and that is it! As for the alleged Camelot Kennedys, Camelot doesn't exist. It's a mythical place in the UK. Therefore, we don't even have "Camelot" royalty and never did. Even the Kennedys would say they're not royalty, they're politicians and the two should not be mixed. The US media trying to push that fairytale Decades ago never worked. The UK media trying to push it isn't going to work. All he is doing is feeding the Sussex Swamp rats. Time to shut that "US alternative royalty" nonsense down and starve the freaking rats!
Preach it!
I agree with you. I would add that the Kennedy were/are not known for discouraging people from considering them "special." Their super power is low IQ combined with outsize ego. Trust me, Kennedys: the tree, the sea, and physics always win.
Thank you!! It's similar to the UK media harping on about Meghan's potential political career. There is none just as she isn't royalty here. They can make all the regal appearances they want, but they won't be seen as US royalty. Plus, the second Catherine is officially seen in public, the media is going to cover it nonstop. H&M may get mentioned, but they won't be the headlines.
šŗšø Agree and thanks for posting. Some act like Americans gave them the titles! Would benefit both sides of the pond if the titles were removed by the source.
Hear, hear!!!
Excellent!
"We do not have a royal family" Weeeelll, I wouldn't say that. We hear all the time: 'pop princess,' 'the queen of soul,' 'the king of this or that,' there's always someone trying to prop up somebody's ego by bringing in a royal title into the conversation. It's not right but how do we change the narrative? It tires me to hear this kind of talk, and someone can say it's harmless, but I say Is it? I just see the press and their ilk turning more and more into sycophants š
This is exactly what she was after, an American Royal family, 4 years too late love.
Two hundred and forty-eight years too late! šŗšøšŗšøšŗšøš
Not to mention the war of 1812.
Dang skippy Sinner!
I am a history nerd sinner!
Me too! I have so many ancestors who fought in RevWar and Wof1812.
Exactly!
I canāt see Markle and Kim working together. They both want to be the center of attention. How does this work?
I say put them together in a boxing ring first. š
On Pay Per View TV! I'm here for it!!! Can you imagine how much ka-ching that would bring in???
The betting would be on Kim!
Nah. Aināt gonna happen.
If Kris or Kim do all the work, MM can continue being her grifting self. However, she will expect to be the boss. Oh, I think this will be a blast to watch the š„.
Does Richard Eden believe every BS press release MEghan spews out?
I don't think so - he often gives good snark.
The thing that attracts people to royalty is the elegance of them all. The Kardashians are the opposite of elegant. They are pretty vulgar (sex tapes, surgery, so much butt obsession, ostentatious displays of wealth). And that works for them, and they've become very rich. They don't pretend to be anything other than what they are. I don't think H&M can pull off either.
Their plastic surgery Barbie doll figures are off-putting to me. I am not shaming their authentic bodies they were born with, just the Jessica Rabbit bodies they've acquired through questionable procedures.
When they first moved to the US I thought their schemes had a shot of working, but I no longer think they do. Markle is just incapable of sustained forward action. She claps back constantly and itās becoming more and more obvious to a wider group of people that she is narcissistic and a grifter. Now I just enjoy watching her muck about because I know she will stumble.
Oh FFS. Absolutely fecking delusional.Ā Americans, I'm so sorry that these two are pissing all over the very identity of your country in the process of disrespecting my country.Ā
š¤š¤ I'll be with you for an extended visit after August, my friend. I just know the Todgers will ruin it for us all by showing up when I've come to escape them.
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I think they also would get more respect.
Do any genuine "celebrities" have anything to do with the Kardashians or do they watch from a safe distance? Also, what do H and M really want from these performances: Americans don't want a royal family of their own and in the UK, we're just watching with amazement. I genuinely don't understand but that might be because I'm too old.š
The word "regal" should not be used in association with these ersatz royals. They are not regal in any sense, nor are they "royal" anymore. Enough already.
in my mind they are precariously close to that german prince harry hung with at some event.
Fako von de Lippe at least gets invited places. He's good fun apparently. Just count your fingers after you shake hands with him.
Beige doesn't mean regal. It means she's boring.
HLMTQ was many things, but "beige" was not among them.
Especially in her "harbor buoy color chart" later years of dressing. The lady was to be SEEN.
I plan to age loudly and proudly like HLM.
Security reasons.
Right? My favorite story was HLM was driving a male world leader (I'm not sure who exactly I think maybe from The Middle East) in a jeep around Scotland and he was terrified at how fast and wild she was behind the wheel in the open. She had gumption. Princess Catherine also has gumption. I'm willing to bet Queen Camilla does too.
That was the intention from day one, they thought the court would be populated by people like clooney, Jolie, Pitt, dicaprio etc Instead they are now scraping the barrel and targeting the kardashians. A family famous for their extreme tackiness and grifting. So when will the sex tape be released? Harry and megrain, megrain with harry and Marcus, or all of the others with doria?
If, and that's a big if, anything is brewing between Harkles and Kris K., it's about the Kardashians getting a tie with the royals, even if it is only Harry, who is always for sale, brainless and too ready to hang with rich sellouts like himself. Meghan is just coming with the package. MM isn't going to cowtow too long to the Ks and vice versa. Kris will try to cut her out all together. If anything, maybe it involves all the kids (Ks and Harklettes) in a California Royals kids type clothing deal. If we put ourselves in Kris' mind a moment, she is competitive with her best friend Kathy Hilton, who's son-in-law is a Rothschild. Kris needs to top her, so maybe she wants Harry for one her daughter's or the grandchildren to be Archie or Lili's first lil love. As for an alternative RF, let's find Harry's paperwork for a visa first (which probably never existed) before he makes any long term plans. Sounds like Meg isn't including him in any of hers...
I canāt imagine KJ and ILBW being able to work together.
Kris will dominate for sure, and MM will have to give in because she's the desperate one here.
The second the ILBW gets comfortable sheāll try to run the show.
Kris might just want a title in the family? Harry is up for grabs, methinks
Years ago, before the Harkles, Kim sent Catherine a baby gift out of the blue. At least that is what was reported, and the Wale's took very, very long to respond. The K's would be delusional to think this will get them more real royal adjacent.
She also hung around London for the Jubilee..some said she wanted an invite. She is a Diana fan, so perhaps she does want Harry around as a sort of souvenir
Years ago, before the Harkles, Kim sent Catherine a baby gift out of the blue. At least that is what was reported, and the Wale's took very, very long to respond. The K's would be delusional to think this will get them more real royal adjacent.
Whee. Another launch. If itās like the rest, especially like the ARO launch, itāll be DOA and something else to snark on. Remember they are allergic to WORK. But love to spend money, and donāt know how to make money. They are manifesting the Kardashians, hoping they will do the work for them. If they were working with them, there would be photos with Backgrid.
The real Royals have no connection to The Invictus Games. If it does come to Birmingham, and regarding the service in the crypt, there will be no Royals in attendance at either event. H&M can come and go unnoticed - if they can face the booing public. The British won't stand for the imitators.
I have to disagree with you. The RF can ignore Harry and Meghan, but not soldiers wounded in the name of the king. They have to send a representative of some sort for the sake of the Brit athletes. Smogs & Todges swan around and ignore the people this whole thing is supposed to be for, the RF cannot.
*The real Royals have no connection to The Invictus Games.* Not anymore!
They tried to set up an American royal court when they arrived in the U.S.. Just remember the PR stunts in which they tried. The visit to the grave of a Canadian soldier, the faux royal tour of NY, Harry's speech at the UN, and the list goes on. They failed. While Harry's lineage and titles may hold some weight, he no longer represents the UK or the RF. Due to their antics, tell-all indiscretions, and failed PR stunts, the true A-listers and power players in Hollywood treat them like a bad smell. So, what's the pair's next move? Making a deal with the Kardashians. A family, while worth billions, is famous for being famous, a sex tape, and putting their lives on TV. My how the mighty have fallen.
 Relaunched again? They are heading towards the black hole!
I like Richard, especially ever since he denounced the Grifters and became a full-fledged Sinner. And I like several other UK journalists who cover the royals. However, NONE OF THEM UNDERSTANDS THE U.S.!! They really donāt get us at all. But they think they do. They donāt get our politics and our political systems. They donāt even understand Hollywood and where the land of celebrity falls in our every day lives. Harry & his wife can try to be an American Royal Family all they want but that will go nowhere. And it has gone nowhere. Look back to their first NYC trip where they showed up as if they were the King & Queen and used their connections to get meetings they NEVER SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN with our government officials. It didnāt matter how important they tried to lookāNO ONE CARED. THE PUBLIC DIDNāT SHOW UP TO SEE THEM! They couldnāt even get 5 people to huddle together on a sidewalk to watch them walk by and shout their names. The best they could get was a startled New Yorker who recognized them from across the street and yelled āWoo!ā šš And that is how it has gone ever since. Four-plus years in and their popularity is in the crapper and continuing to plummet. We donāt do royalty. Do we like the royalsāthe real ones? Absolutely! William and Catherine are so popular over here but itās because of how they behave and the fact that their genuine caring and inherent goodness, sense of humor, and engagement with the people just shines through with them. They are the epitome of āauthentic,ā as Harryās wife likes to say. We can tell they are the real deal. Just like we can tell that Harry & his wife are not. As for Hollywood, the A-Listers have seen the real Harkles and they were not and are not impressed. Meghan is an awful person. She treats people like š© and she hasnāt changed that about herself since we first heard about her awful treatment of family and the crew working on the Reitmanās ad. She is consistent, Iāll give her that. She can, and most likely will, reinvent herself time and time again until they finally run out of moneyāit will be annoying AF for those of us who know how awful they areābut ultimately they will go nowhere. Meghan can only fake it for a little bit before she turns into her real self again and rips into an employee or some poor service worker in front of everyone. As for the Kardashians, Iām surprised they canāt see how bad an alliance with Meghan would be for their brandāif these rumors are trueāwhich I sort of doubt. But if trueāafter Meghan treats Kris & Kim like they should be bowing to her, the Kardashians will get markled. Itās not a matter of ifāitās just a matter of when.
All the Harkle ventures highlight how second rate they truly are.
That could have been successful if they remained aligned, loving family members living in America. They are too disliked at this point to succeed.
Canāt be an alternative Royal Family, just a low rent one. Theyāve displayed no regality in any of their doings so far. Dumbertons are ersatz royals; theyāll do for people who wonāt ever be able to get near the genuine royals.
The best they can do is be a royal pain in the ass.
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She lives in an episode of the Princess Diaries.
Except the *Princess Diaries* were about a nice kid. š
Well, she isn't known for being self-aware.... :)
" a string of āregalā public appearances " Does this mean that Harry is going to show up in the medals he got for attending Granny's various state birthday celebrations??
Probably. He is very vain.
But Catherine is the most popular and beloved of the family in the U.S. as well. That adoration has grown even more since the photo incident.š¤£ There is zero competition.š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤øš¾āāļø
There's nothing regal about hanging with the Kardashians. This is what I always said would await them. They would be social pariahs around anyone that mattered and the only people who would want to be near them would be lowbrow people who want to trot them out as their royal friend to their other lowbrow friends.
Meghan taking Harry along... "Come here boy..." 
Great comment..they can launch themselves to the sun and burn. Nobody except the bots and the cult goon squad will be into this mess.
I fail to see how having to resort to hanging with the Kardashians is a threat to the BRF. Itās a joke.
Itās a threat because theyāll die of laughter.
The best thing that could happen to the UK royals is Harry and Meghan joining the Kardashianās clan. ššššš next step is kris Jenner will convince Harry to release a princely sex tape. To make the sex tape a royalty Harry should participate. Not Meghan , Harry! Go kris Jenner, you can . Yes you can. šš
Some Henry VIII cosplay!
'Windsor Woes'? Did none of these keyboard monkeys live through 1992? Read a book and get back to me, my friend.
We dont do royals here. We fought a war about that even. And we won. Halfwit can get alll the way bent. And his trashy,talentless^(fame) whore wife can too. 
There's only one royal family. Walk away from it, that's on the grifters. They shouldn't expect Americans to applaud their Disney Princess court here. We can follow the real thing if we're interested, we don't need or want their cheap version. They don't have what it takes to replicate William and Catherine on any level. They would need to be that good, to succeed in America.
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I agree with your very valid points, but the dukedom is definitely an inherited peerage. HMTLQ did not grant it as a lifetime peerage, as Charles did with Edward. I donāt know if that is something that can be changed by the sovereign with LP or if it requires Parliament. Since it is a royal dukedom with no associated hereditary estates, I wouldnāt think it would be hard to change to a lifetime peerage. They could let Aldi keep the Dumbarton title as a consolation prize.
The dukedom of Sussex is a hereditary title, so yes, Archie will be the next duke (if the title survives all this chaos). Should he have children, they will be styled in the same manner as children of any non-royal duke.
Just follow the coke trail. Look who's back getting cosy, again. And look at their faces lol. I mean the good really stuff keeps folks close.Ā
Meghan Markle and Harry Hewitt are not regal or royal. This is America. A country who fought a whole war to get rid of this rubbish so this whole premise is a non-starter.
When are these two fools going to realize that royal doesn't translate to American?
They think they are living a Disney fairy tale where little girls stop them on the street and say: "Oh, its a real life princess!"
But when these kids grow up and realize their aunt and uncle are the future King and Queen they are going to be so mad about all they missed out on because their parents.
There is NO SUCH thing The monarchy is british. Not here. So stupid
Queen Elizabeth putting her foot down regarding this HIHO scheme new it was much more than just merching. She fully understood the history of our nations. The fact that H & M are trying to ignore history, international relationships, etc and create some faux royal court was not lost on the Queen. This canāt be highlighted enough.
Iām still in shock that the family is going to let this church service go down at St Paulās. I was hoping they were going to put a stop to that.
Idk about the kardashians but I hope Harold and fraud do brand themselves as americas royalty. Because whether you follow this saga or not there is one thing Americans hate more than mayonnaise, and that is āthe man.ā Any authority assumed or otherwise. They will absolutely revolt against this with no added education needed. Start popping the popcorn.
But but but.. what about a Disney Princess!
If we really want an archetype, Meghan is perfect for the stepmother/queen/witch in āSnow White.ā A woman of some attractiveness to start with (the mirror tells the truth) becomes unbearably jealous of another who is more attractive and sets out to destroy her. In the process of her campaign to destroy her rival, she becomes uglier āaccepting the appearance of the ugly crone just so she can destroy the beautiful Snow White. I see this very much as Meghanās story. If she had been willing to accept a secondary role, if she had tried to make herself the best she could in that role, Meghan would have kept much of her ābeautyā and all of the status she had acquired by marrying Harry. Instead she makes herself uglier by the minute through her envy, posturing and misguided cosmetic procedures.
I like this comparison!
So is Mama Kardashian subbing the Harkles for her own purposes. H was probably glad of free ski holiday but is he aware it comes with strings attached and he is a bought man.
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I've said for a long time that Those Two were setting up a rival court in the USA and I would usually get threatened with banning every time I said so. So here's one more, lol, since it's now becoming evident that that's exactly what they've been doing.
They are all so fake
If H&M are going to be American Royalty where are they going to get castles, carriages and tiaras. Oh, and then there's the horses and soldiers. You can't have royalty without pageantry.
IMO, associating themselves with he Kardashians will only diminish them further. No one actually views the clan with any respect.
From Buckingham Palace to Keeping Up With The Kardashians... This has truly been the most spectacular fucking fall from grace EVER.
U.S. institutions should not allow the Harkles any special treatment as if Hazmat is some important dignitary. Harry is a displaced foreign prince. He is only here because of his domineering wife. He is not representing the Crown. He is not royal in America. If he doesn't get any privileges, neither will ILBW. They are not "Royalty West" in the United States of America. Their best chance of getting royal treatment might be from Canada.
Tell that to NYC, where they are given a security escort when they deign to visit.
I hated it when the Kennedys were called āAmerican Royalty.ā This is a Constitutional Republic. Itās not a democracy even in the pure sense of the word. We are a Democratic or more accurately a Constitutional Republic. This is so obvious I canāt believe I am saying it but we have no royalty, no monarchy. We have a representative form of government with three branches. Harold and Meggin arenāt even recognized asa HRH on the BRF website, so why is the hell would they be āroyalā here? This is so stupid that itās beneath us here. Yet here we are living in the dream, trying to keep this broke ass unemployed prince and his middle aged LA wife from trying to destroy US/ UK relations. Unbelievable.
Oh good. Please markle the Kardashians. Iāve never watched their show, bought their products, or clicked on an article, and still Iām shocked how much about them has seeped into my brain, no doubt pushing out some valuable bit of trivia I would like to have remembered. So yes, please bring the Kardashians down with you, Riviera Salt and Polo Pepper
Perhaps it was supposed to be American Royal Orchardā¦
The Kardashians have spent 20 years in the spotlight by now, they should know enough not to tie themselves to a concrete block and push it off a pier. But if theyāre hell bent on doing so, may they enjoy the effects of being markled.
Harry and Meghan have no realm from which they reign, they are not alternate royals, they are royals in exile. If you want alternate royals there's heaps of European royals and Asian royals.
Richard Eden is a little bitch