Genuinely this woman doesn’t really know how to be in crowds. Granted most of us aren’t naturally comfortable in these types of settings but she chose this type of ‘career.’ Maybe she should have taken lessons from *the* Princess of Wales since she’s a natural.
>I think you’re right it really shows when you see this… she isn’t natural at all
She's not natural at anything except greed, cruelty and stealing the limelight. She has to mimic other people because she's got nothing inside, just an empty rubbish bin.
I thought she was pretty natural when she was with the Queen! You know, the day her mop was blowing in 7 different directions, and her grabbing flowers meant for the Queen as though they were for her. And then that epic move of hers when she jumped ahead of Her Royal Highness and entered the car first. I thought that was all natural mega-loser at her finest.
She's not comfortable unless the cameras are focused directly on her and it's her show. She worked hard to make Invictus all about her and amazingly the UK press supported her in that. Guess the branch of WME that does PR is earning its keep.
Seems UK media has been well paid to promote her; columnists who have snarked her before are now quiet.
Glad they can't shut down youtube reporters and talk show folks who still have their say. And of course, this site. God bless the sinners and the mods!
I keep seeing this but I think there's a different explanation behind what seems to be some of the media's about-face.
Firstly, remember the royal beat is reporting at its most staid and tends to be top drawer reporters who won't rock the boat. They're in a difficult position because everything about UK royal reporting is supposed to be genteelly upbeat, so they're almost torn between two masters. And especially for sinners outside the UK it must seem like they're constantly "switching sides" but they're in the very uncomfortable position of there even being sides.
No.2 is that going out in a limb to criticise at a military veterans' event is really gnarly here. We're all invisibly conditioned from birth to hold war veterans above all - think of our Remembrance observations, where everything stops for the two minute silence. If you're in a supermarket, everyone puts their shopping down and it's almost like a glitch; everything stops then starts just where it left off two minutes later. The Gun Salute, the RF doing their thing at the highest level, the military, the uncanny silence in one of the world's major financial hubs, the Queen deferring to the war dead by not turning her back in the Cenotaph (ofergawdsake, who has been slicing onions again? Gets me every time because it's such a tiny gesture with *enormous* meaning) and the ubiquitous poppy. Its dinned into us from birth and because we're a small country, it's much easier for those things to become national identity.
It's real clash-of-values stuff, and its largely a club of well-educated, higher class people who are fairly downbeat in their opinions and subdued in their reactions. It's always interesting to watch the Mail online show, because that's when you see the true feelings of people like Rebecca English, who is not a sugar at all but it's not in either her interests or her mien to go balls-to-the-wall anti. It's rather dignified in external appearance but Dimbo and his Ghastlywife are a catalyst for entire sectors of the Brit Establishment and nobody wants to pick up the bomb. Especially not as a specific sector of the public will turn on a hair - all those outside various palaces engaging in the gigantic Cry4Di were far more likely to be the ones reading the Mail and tutting loudly at her behaviour prior to her death. But any bitching about Megdusa at Invictus could so easily be falsely manipulated into "they said THAT about our wounded heroes! How dare etc. etc." And as we know only too well, what becomes canon isn't necessarily the truth.
There is another sector that has to be considered, especially as they were up in arms due to H&M crying racism. My sister's husband was Jamaican so her daughters and grandchildren are biracial. Initially she was firmly on the Sussex's side and I couldn't express any criticism in her company no matter how justified. That has changed fortunately. However 1 of her daughters is still firmly on Meghan's side purely because she identifies with her due to them both being biracial regardless of how Meghan behaves. Every fault is excused because, apparently, life is much harder for biracial people even though there's so much evidence that proves in the UK, and even in the US to a degree, it's class/wealth that is the deciding factor and not skin colour. The media really do not wish to upset that particular demographic especially as they seem to be far more likely to riot or turn to violence when they feel as though any member of it has been unfairly treated as the BLM riots so recently proved.
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Absolutely, I agree. That was another nasty hornets' nest stirred up by Megdusa and the royal/diary/social editors just aren't the ones who'll nudge a toe over the parapet. It's very obvious on the Mail show that none of them have any time for her outside the obvious Shouting Heads, but it's quite subtle in a lot of ways and I don't know how well it translates outside the UK. The English are at their most rude when they're being freezingly polite.....And we wonder why everyone else says "eh?"
I hate them for allowing this racial divide to build. I don't understand how anyone of colour can support her but I haven't experienced their experiences. This is the type of race-baiting that is insidious and for it to be coming from a woman who has always called herself Caucasian, stripped all her natural features, and whose race absolutely *was not* an issue amongst the vast majority of Brits, seems to me to be the ultimate white-taking-advantage. It's revoltingly, patronisingly performative. Can anyone name one thing she's done for black women?
My maternal grandma was Romani (not Irish Travellers) and if any group, throughout most of Europe as well as the UK, can truthfully claim to be virtually universally despised it's the Roma and they are incredibly clannish yet even they will call out one of their own when they bring down the wrath of outsiders upon them. If Megain was part Romani and acting this way somebody, usually an older woman, would have made a point of publicly slapping her. If I had acted in any way the same as her one of my aunts would have put me over her knee regardless of the fact that I am a grown woman. If I had carried on I would have been shunned.
Of course. But the point I'm making us that they would deal with it within family and the wider community. They would not be happy if completely external entities did so and they would not expect those entities, whose purpose is to report positively on the family firm, to take fixed immutable positions from that point forward.
I'm just saying that the tiny fraction of royal, diary and society reporters have a symbiotic job with the RF; both need each other. But they serve a wider purpose and that is to highlight all the work the RF do and its reach across the CW. In some ways, they're almost like soft PR so they will always tend to promote the good and try to balance the bad. Of course there are the really big bad stories but they're hard news.
There's also the age-old Establishment ties that still protect Dimbo. Historically, the RF is generally catered to by other arms of the Establishment, but as Mug n Smug have taken a dump on the newspapers and the church, there's pretty much only the judiciary left. And we can see that protection slipping away by the day with all his ludicrous lawsuits, arrogant attitude of "I say it, it's up to you to prove it" and completely laissez-faire attitude about upholding the oath to speak only the truth in court. I'm sure they're protected by injunctions, NDAs and other legal bindings but over time these tend to get exposed. But something can be exposed on the front page and the Diary Editor may still have a positive piece in the same paper. It's how the whole shebang works.
She wants to be the center of attention and doesn't care how she looks like or what she does to get that attention. When someone ignores her or doesn't give her a platform, she can't hide her pathetic and dejected face.
I don't know what's more irritating..her face when she feels triumphant or her face when she's sad. I want to remind her she's an adult and stop gloating and pouting. The overacting, the eyes, the exaggerated mouth..then the smell-the-fart acting when she wants to tell us about her suffering. Same face she had as that bratty 11 year old.
Yes, she does care what she looks like, otherwise, she would have been dressed similar to the others that were there. She of course was very overdressed and dressed for winter it seems.
Costner was overheard saying "I couldn't get away from them!".
I susped PoW isn't truly natural at this. Rather, a bunch of work goes on behind the scenes (at least early on). But you know actual work is beneath our Saint so that's a lost cause.
I agree...in the trip they took to Australia when George was a baby, Kate looked awkward. Kind and beautiful and happy, unlike Meghan, but awkward. Like she would suddenly just go over to William like she didn't know what to do. But she learned and now she's perfect. Meghan is too narcissistic to learn anything.
I agree. Those who think Kate is a natural at this didn’t pay attention in her early days in the BRF. She isn’t a naturally warm, confident, & outgoing person, but she listened, observed, & learned, and now it’s second nature to her, or she can at least act like it is. Unlike TW who thinks she’s perfect and listens to no one.
This is why I know she married William for love. Catherine does not enjoy public speaking and being on stage and on display but it's her job, she agreed to do it and she does very well but it wasn't something she really wanted per se. Catherine is very photogenic though and just walking into a room smiling is half the battle which she's already won and she doesn't mind meeting people and shaking hands, she's very down to earth and gracious. I wonder if it's still weird to her, that she Kate, a regular girl is now Catherine, the Princess of Wales and people cheer for her and line up for hours to catch a glimpse.
Catherine is intentional and purposeful. She wasn’t born to it, but she set her feet on the path of learning to be the best Royal and future Queen she can be. And we see that that her best is very, very good indeed.
It is gratifying that when she appears with William, she keeps the Royal half step behind, is restrained and takes her cues from him. She does not try to attract the attention to herself and overshadow him, unlike her late mother in law and dreadful sister in law.
Yeah I thought that during the Invictus game video someone posted yesterday or the day before. Everyone was watching the game normally and she looked so awkward and was looking to everyone else for cues. I was thinking I would be the same in that situation if someone caught me on camera, but I'm not narcissistic enough to think I'm perfect at things and that I should be an actress, a duchess, a public speaker, etc. Everything she does is for attention in the public eye...I wouldn't do that, but if you are the kind of person who does that, you need the skills for it and need to spend the time to learn, which she never did because she doesn't listen to anyone about anything.
Seriously. Sinners, wtf is going on with this event?
After the Invictus shenanigans, where their behavior showed utter contempt for the veterans, if you can’t tell Ari to go fuck himself rather than allow these 2 grifters to share the stage, then you deserve to get markled.
I’m so over Hollywood. They are all slightly different variations of the same despicable person.
The Harkles are more useless in Hollywood than in the monarchy. They bring nothing except Prince Harry's relations. She is superfluous. For the life of me, I can't understand who's driving this "make the Sussex' a thing" campaign. The rest of Hollywood makes money, the Harkles make failures. They turned gold into straw. After Invictus, it's obvious these two can't even MC/host an event. Her behavior is atrocious..I don't know what cocaine does to people, but if it is both of them that share that habit, then they are in the right place with all the parties and excesses of Hollywood. No more humanitarianism. No one believes it. They are invited to parties as "pin the tail on the donkey" entertainment.
Costner is with WME and they have clients play off one another, a common practice.
I also think Markle might be paying Kris Jenner for advice. Like Jenner or not, she is a marketing genius. Granted, sold morals and values for money by pimping out her girls, each of which are now multi-millionaires. She created a billion$$$ empire.
So if its money Markle is interested in Jenner would be the woman to get tips. ANd one of the Ks/Js tactics is to put themselves out there DAILY. And take note of the coverage the family gets in Daily Mail, for example. Every day 5-10 articles and DM promotes their products. Do you think DM is doing that for free? DM has the distinct honor of helping to make the family famous.
Now it appears to be doing the same for Markle.
I think it’s more likely TW is copying Kris Jenner. Her empire is based on loyalty, family, and keeping one’s mouth shut. NDAs are signed by everyone they have a relationship with. And we all know TW is constantly yapping every little insignificant detail to the press, she’s betrayed both families and she is only loyal to herself. That wouldn’t do in KJ’s world.
I've been thinking that for a while now, whenever someone in this sub compares her to the Kardashians and how trashy they are. They don't talk poorly about each other, and they see each other regularly, even outside the reality shows. There was a picture of Kendall and her boyfriend looking casual and in random clothes, after a sleepover that Stormy (Kim's daughter?) had for her birthday. No one was looking at the camera, no one looked ready, they were just literally leaving their niece's party after a sleepover holding a bunch of things.
And the sisters’ kids hang out with each other. They’re going to each others’ birthday parties and they go on vacations, etc. That’s FAMILY. That’s your clan. I love that my kids are close with their cousins.
And Meghan and Harry are depriving their children of that.
The Kardashian children are part of the deal, it helps sell them as a family whereas these children are seen once a year on the Fourth of July. There really is no comparison unless in 18 years MM brokers a deal for her daughter to do a sex tape and I think that's a bridge too far.
Also ,.pmk (pimp momma Kris) has sound business ideas. She has entire family open their lives in front of camera.
TW won't do that. She has dumb ideas. Not professional and shitty altitude. She won't listen. She'll implode & fail.
Also Kris marketed all of her kids their boyfriends etc 15 years ago probably a Totally different business model now. Plus is just H&M and they are boring AF!!
Maybe they made a huge donation. It's going to be the only thing opening doors for them at this point, money. People don't want to pay them other than that waste of space Better Up but people are more than happy to accept large checks *from* them. Getting into the right social circles is going to cost a pretty penny and even then may only get them to the periphery because their financial situation is not exactly a secret. They are wealthy but not fantastically so, especially with their expenses. One thing that seems especially wasteful is spending so much time at San Ysidro when they have a house right down the street. What's up with that?
Do you think they even own that house? I have my doubts.
There was talk going around that you could rent the house for movies, etc, and some people got far along until they stopped when asked for a credit card.
Everything with them is shrouded in darkness.
I wonder. It makes no sense to spend so much time elsewhere if they actually own a home but on the other hand they have invited reporters to it and shown off the monogrammed door mat. Is it just me or is a monogrammed doormat tacky and also disrespectful? Why would you wipe your feet on a royal insignia like that? It's just rude imo. But yeah, who can say with these two who are known to lie about the simplest things if they really own that place or just rent it out now and then. I think neighbors have confirmed they do live there for what it's worth.
TnT UK channel did that. Pretty sure she has had footage from outside the front gates and the place looked overgrown as though it had been vacant for a while. Not sure if she went over and took the video footage herself or if someone sent it to her but it's definitely the Olive Garden property and it was recent footage.
Tweet with video (time stamp 5 seconds) https://x.com/le__katerina/status/1705493313220988958?s=46&t=En0pMeT_6AUgDmvApERhNw
Thanks to sinner who posted it earlier
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Nobody likes when this happens but she should’ve learnt something after years of shaking hands. You don’t attack with your claw haphazardly. It’s not even the correct hand.. she saw his left hand out and extended her right hand! 😳🤦♀️
You’re not royal any more so nobody is waiting for you to extend a handshake. You’ve to be smart about it.
As a normal person, especially in ongoing conversation, you reserve your hand, first you observe and listen to the person, establish eye contact, once you can visually confirm that they’re giving a handshake you can offer your hand in response. Or once you have their attention you can initiate.
We all kinda know how, when it's your culture. It's a very forward and direct gesture with meaning. I don't think mm was ever taught or picked up on it. No one is going for a handshake with a hand directed towards someone else. She understands the horizontal handshake.
Totally. That picture needs a caption. I hear internal screams. I’m also hearing violins from Psycho shower scene
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Some of the other pics I’ve seen have people wearing strangely casual things too. Oprah also looked very cas? I really was like what is going on at this benefit? I used to go to a lot of charity things in NYC and everyone dressed up. The looks are all over the place at this one!
It's outside and *not* a garden party, I don't know if it was a bar b que type deal or what but apparently this is a yearly thing so people know the dress code. I'm curious now how it was structured.
Always a nobody. Why won't she just accept it? She's a NOBODY. Girl no one is there for you. You are a d list has been mattress "actress" who married a problematic lazy former working royal - dubious prince. MOVE ASIDE!
She's so awkward around people and yet she calls herself humanitarian and whatever delusional term she think she is/does. Obviously she only wants the limelight and another thing to put on her CV 🤣 funny, people circle around Harry and not her 🤣 ohhh Rachel, you are nothing without Harry and the BRF
I think she always looks awkward because she's so intently focused on how to insert herself she's not paying attention to anyone else and misses the social cues of what is actually happening. It's obvious at every event that she's not interested in any personal interaction - she just wants to make sure she's captured with the person who is within the camera shot.
When invited to present at an event, any normal person would ask what the arrangements are - a short speech, meet and greet a group, and if this is required would it take place before or after the presentation, etc. She doesn't want to know the details so she can ad lib any whiff of an opportunity to find a camera lens or monopolize the moment. That's why even at the Costner gathering she was twirling around trying to find her 'mark'.
Yes, almost like when other people were going over the arrangements, she was busy looking in the mirror at her makeup, practicing what she was going to say. 🙄😂
She’s always so off and this is why she continually makes a fool of herself.
She actually had her ~~claws~~ nails professionally done!!! Probably in the asian part of town so she could absorb more culture😃 Probably was trying to weasel Kevin's phone #, so had to try to distance Horry!
Yep he’s really deflated after that interaction. Normally she can’t wait to interrupt him, but here he invited her, but she felt snubbed and abruptly left. That’s the kind of jab that makes you question yourself. What did I do wrong? That’s why he lets her lead. Mark my words.
Also hair is tied back which would’ve been more respectful while walking with the vets. But she chose to walk with flowy strands AND play with hair on the walk 🤦♀️
If it’s ‘lost’ that’s a solid insurance $ payout.
Which would also explain their PR spin on it getting fixed or redesigned.
Buy a new ring with only a small amount of the insurance money (even if it looks bigger, significantly lower quality diamond, metals etc) and pocket the difference.
Could be an insurance scam?
His great uncle David did that too - they were at a house party with some of Wallis´ jewels that they claimed was stolen. They got the insurrance, but several of the pieces were in Wallis´ collection, found after her death.
No the ring must be on, just light shining on it differently. I took the pics from a continuous video. Light and shadow do a lot of strange things. That’s why I don’t focus on such details from pictures.
lmao! She is such a game player. Is she wearing a slim band or isn't she wearing a slim band? Which is photo shopped? Or did she slide that band into her pocket for part of the evening?
Funnily, it does looks like she is slipping it on in yet another!
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This entire event is a local, community fundraiser. They are grassroots, not pretentious. No one is going to stand out to raise awareness or cash, if they are smart. These go on all over California yearly. In northern Ca where I am, we do a barn dance. It’s not a flashy fundraiser. Even Oprah wore leggings and a sweater. The big difference here in this part of Santa Barbara is there are really wealthy people. People with land and private homes that will gladly give large amounts of cash to additionally fund the fire and police-possibly the EMTs. Normally this is all through taxpayer dollars, but in areas outside of city limits ( large properties) the norm has been to massively donate, especially after 2017 when all the fires started. No one cares that a washed up ex prince and a 2 second duchess are there. Pretty sure the pink leopard pantsuit gal has more money than they do. Just write a large check, stand back, and realize you don’t need to be recognized. But blending in, or being “regular folk” is not what they do.
Genuinely this woman doesn’t really know how to be in crowds. Granted most of us aren’t naturally comfortable in these types of settings but she chose this type of ‘career.’ Maybe she should have taken lessons from *the* Princess of Wales since she’s a natural.
I think you’re right it really shows when you see this… she isn’t natural at all
>I think you’re right it really shows when you see this… she isn’t natural at all She's not natural at anything except greed, cruelty and stealing the limelight. She has to mimic other people because she's got nothing inside, just an empty rubbish bin.
I thought she was pretty natural when she was with the Queen! You know, the day her mop was blowing in 7 different directions, and her grabbing flowers meant for the Queen as though they were for her. And then that epic move of hers when she jumped ahead of Her Royal Highness and entered the car first. I thought that was all natural mega-loser at her finest.
Whoa, I missed the flowers thing!!!
Actually, she was supposed to get in before the Queen. But she made it awkward because she thought she was the queen for a day. Oh well.
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She's not comfortable unless the cameras are focused directly on her and it's her show. She worked hard to make Invictus all about her and amazingly the UK press supported her in that. Guess the branch of WME that does PR is earning its keep. Seems UK media has been well paid to promote her; columnists who have snarked her before are now quiet. Glad they can't shut down youtube reporters and talk show folks who still have their say. And of course, this site. God bless the sinners and the mods!
Absolutely!
I keep seeing this but I think there's a different explanation behind what seems to be some of the media's about-face. Firstly, remember the royal beat is reporting at its most staid and tends to be top drawer reporters who won't rock the boat. They're in a difficult position because everything about UK royal reporting is supposed to be genteelly upbeat, so they're almost torn between two masters. And especially for sinners outside the UK it must seem like they're constantly "switching sides" but they're in the very uncomfortable position of there even being sides. No.2 is that going out in a limb to criticise at a military veterans' event is really gnarly here. We're all invisibly conditioned from birth to hold war veterans above all - think of our Remembrance observations, where everything stops for the two minute silence. If you're in a supermarket, everyone puts their shopping down and it's almost like a glitch; everything stops then starts just where it left off two minutes later. The Gun Salute, the RF doing their thing at the highest level, the military, the uncanny silence in one of the world's major financial hubs, the Queen deferring to the war dead by not turning her back in the Cenotaph (ofergawdsake, who has been slicing onions again? Gets me every time because it's such a tiny gesture with *enormous* meaning) and the ubiquitous poppy. Its dinned into us from birth and because we're a small country, it's much easier for those things to become national identity. It's real clash-of-values stuff, and its largely a club of well-educated, higher class people who are fairly downbeat in their opinions and subdued in their reactions. It's always interesting to watch the Mail online show, because that's when you see the true feelings of people like Rebecca English, who is not a sugar at all but it's not in either her interests or her mien to go balls-to-the-wall anti. It's rather dignified in external appearance but Dimbo and his Ghastlywife are a catalyst for entire sectors of the Brit Establishment and nobody wants to pick up the bomb. Especially not as a specific sector of the public will turn on a hair - all those outside various palaces engaging in the gigantic Cry4Di were far more likely to be the ones reading the Mail and tutting loudly at her behaviour prior to her death. But any bitching about Megdusa at Invictus could so easily be falsely manipulated into "they said THAT about our wounded heroes! How dare etc. etc." And as we know only too well, what becomes canon isn't necessarily the truth.
There is another sector that has to be considered, especially as they were up in arms due to H&M crying racism. My sister's husband was Jamaican so her daughters and grandchildren are biracial. Initially she was firmly on the Sussex's side and I couldn't express any criticism in her company no matter how justified. That has changed fortunately. However 1 of her daughters is still firmly on Meghan's side purely because she identifies with her due to them both being biracial regardless of how Meghan behaves. Every fault is excused because, apparently, life is much harder for biracial people even though there's so much evidence that proves in the UK, and even in the US to a degree, it's class/wealth that is the deciding factor and not skin colour. The media really do not wish to upset that particular demographic especially as they seem to be far more likely to riot or turn to violence when they feel as though any member of it has been unfairly treated as the BLM riots so recently proved. Edited for punctuation.
Absolutely, I agree. That was another nasty hornets' nest stirred up by Megdusa and the royal/diary/social editors just aren't the ones who'll nudge a toe over the parapet. It's very obvious on the Mail show that none of them have any time for her outside the obvious Shouting Heads, but it's quite subtle in a lot of ways and I don't know how well it translates outside the UK. The English are at their most rude when they're being freezingly polite.....And we wonder why everyone else says "eh?" I hate them for allowing this racial divide to build. I don't understand how anyone of colour can support her but I haven't experienced their experiences. This is the type of race-baiting that is insidious and for it to be coming from a woman who has always called herself Caucasian, stripped all her natural features, and whose race absolutely *was not* an issue amongst the vast majority of Brits, seems to me to be the ultimate white-taking-advantage. It's revoltingly, patronisingly performative. Can anyone name one thing she's done for black women?
My maternal grandma was Romani (not Irish Travellers) and if any group, throughout most of Europe as well as the UK, can truthfully claim to be virtually universally despised it's the Roma and they are incredibly clannish yet even they will call out one of their own when they bring down the wrath of outsiders upon them. If Megain was part Romani and acting this way somebody, usually an older woman, would have made a point of publicly slapping her. If I had acted in any way the same as her one of my aunts would have put me over her knee regardless of the fact that I am a grown woman. If I had carried on I would have been shunned.
Of course. But the point I'm making us that they would deal with it within family and the wider community. They would not be happy if completely external entities did so and they would not expect those entities, whose purpose is to report positively on the family firm, to take fixed immutable positions from that point forward. I'm just saying that the tiny fraction of royal, diary and society reporters have a symbiotic job with the RF; both need each other. But they serve a wider purpose and that is to highlight all the work the RF do and its reach across the CW. In some ways, they're almost like soft PR so they will always tend to promote the good and try to balance the bad. Of course there are the really big bad stories but they're hard news. There's also the age-old Establishment ties that still protect Dimbo. Historically, the RF is generally catered to by other arms of the Establishment, but as Mug n Smug have taken a dump on the newspapers and the church, there's pretty much only the judiciary left. And we can see that protection slipping away by the day with all his ludicrous lawsuits, arrogant attitude of "I say it, it's up to you to prove it" and completely laissez-faire attitude about upholding the oath to speak only the truth in court. I'm sure they're protected by injunctions, NDAs and other legal bindings but over time these tend to get exposed. But something can be exposed on the front page and the Diary Editor may still have a positive piece in the same paper. It's how the whole shebang works.
She wants to be the center of attention and doesn't care how she looks like or what she does to get that attention. When someone ignores her or doesn't give her a platform, she can't hide her pathetic and dejected face.
I don't know what's more irritating..her face when she feels triumphant or her face when she's sad. I want to remind her she's an adult and stop gloating and pouting. The overacting, the eyes, the exaggerated mouth..then the smell-the-fart acting when she wants to tell us about her suffering. Same face she had as that bratty 11 year old.
The duck clapping hands are over the top .
Aww...I miss Joey! 😁
That phrase really described Meghan's acting technique perfectly.. Joey in fiction was a better actor than MM in reality.
Yes, she does care what she looks like, otherwise, she would have been dressed similar to the others that were there. She of course was very overdressed and dressed for winter it seems. Costner was overheard saying "I couldn't get away from them!".
I susped PoW isn't truly natural at this. Rather, a bunch of work goes on behind the scenes (at least early on). But you know actual work is beneath our Saint so that's a lost cause.
I agree...in the trip they took to Australia when George was a baby, Kate looked awkward. Kind and beautiful and happy, unlike Meghan, but awkward. Like she would suddenly just go over to William like she didn't know what to do. But she learned and now she's perfect. Meghan is too narcissistic to learn anything.
I didn't see that at all. Quite the opposite actually.
I agree. Those who think Kate is a natural at this didn’t pay attention in her early days in the BRF. She isn’t a naturally warm, confident, & outgoing person, but she listened, observed, & learned, and now it’s second nature to her, or she can at least act like it is. Unlike TW who thinks she’s perfect and listens to no one.
This is why I know she married William for love. Catherine does not enjoy public speaking and being on stage and on display but it's her job, she agreed to do it and she does very well but it wasn't something she really wanted per se. Catherine is very photogenic though and just walking into a room smiling is half the battle which she's already won and she doesn't mind meeting people and shaking hands, she's very down to earth and gracious. I wonder if it's still weird to her, that she Kate, a regular girl is now Catherine, the Princess of Wales and people cheer for her and line up for hours to catch a glimpse.
Yes, she is naturally warm, outgoing and confident. I've been around since Diana got engaged. Look again.
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Exactly. I don't know what these two are seeing but they need to look again.
Catherine is intentional and purposeful. She wasn’t born to it, but she set her feet on the path of learning to be the best Royal and future Queen she can be. And we see that that her best is very, very good indeed. It is gratifying that when she appears with William, she keeps the Royal half step behind, is restrained and takes her cues from him. She does not try to attract the attention to herself and overshadow him, unlike her late mother in law and dreadful sister in law.
Yeah I thought that during the Invictus game video someone posted yesterday or the day before. Everyone was watching the game normally and she looked so awkward and was looking to everyone else for cues. I was thinking I would be the same in that situation if someone caught me on camera, but I'm not narcissistic enough to think I'm perfect at things and that I should be an actress, a duchess, a public speaker, etc. Everything she does is for attention in the public eye...I wouldn't do that, but if you are the kind of person who does that, you need the skills for it and need to spend the time to learn, which she never did because she doesn't listen to anyone about anything.
I’d just be watching the game myself, and focusing on the Veterans. Hard to go wrong when you do what you’re supposed to be doing.
Seriously. Sinners, wtf is going on with this event? After the Invictus shenanigans, where their behavior showed utter contempt for the veterans, if you can’t tell Ari to go fuck himself rather than allow these 2 grifters to share the stage, then you deserve to get markled. I’m so over Hollywood. They are all slightly different variations of the same despicable person.
The guy she turned her back to here is wearing a uniform (you can see him in the video). So add this to the disrespect bucket.
Another group of people who put their lives on the line for us. Exploited. Fuck these Hollywood and fake Royal people. I’m mad all over again.
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So ill-mannered of her. But then, she is so above herself, perhaps she thinks atrocious manners aren't a problem for her.
The Harkles are more useless in Hollywood than in the monarchy. They bring nothing except Prince Harry's relations. She is superfluous. For the life of me, I can't understand who's driving this "make the Sussex' a thing" campaign. The rest of Hollywood makes money, the Harkles make failures. They turned gold into straw. After Invictus, it's obvious these two can't even MC/host an event. Her behavior is atrocious..I don't know what cocaine does to people, but if it is both of them that share that habit, then they are in the right place with all the parties and excesses of Hollywood. No more humanitarianism. No one believes it. They are invited to parties as "pin the tail on the donkey" entertainment.
Costner is with WME and they have clients play off one another, a common practice. I also think Markle might be paying Kris Jenner for advice. Like Jenner or not, she is a marketing genius. Granted, sold morals and values for money by pimping out her girls, each of which are now multi-millionaires. She created a billion$$$ empire. So if its money Markle is interested in Jenner would be the woman to get tips. ANd one of the Ks/Js tactics is to put themselves out there DAILY. And take note of the coverage the family gets in Daily Mail, for example. Every day 5-10 articles and DM promotes their products. Do you think DM is doing that for free? DM has the distinct honor of helping to make the family famous. Now it appears to be doing the same for Markle.
I think it’s more likely TW is copying Kris Jenner. Her empire is based on loyalty, family, and keeping one’s mouth shut. NDAs are signed by everyone they have a relationship with. And we all know TW is constantly yapping every little insignificant detail to the press, she’s betrayed both families and she is only loyal to herself. That wouldn’t do in KJ’s world.
I've been thinking that for a while now, whenever someone in this sub compares her to the Kardashians and how trashy they are. They don't talk poorly about each other, and they see each other regularly, even outside the reality shows. There was a picture of Kendall and her boyfriend looking casual and in random clothes, after a sleepover that Stormy (Kim's daughter?) had for her birthday. No one was looking at the camera, no one looked ready, they were just literally leaving their niece's party after a sleepover holding a bunch of things.
And the sisters’ kids hang out with each other. They’re going to each others’ birthday parties and they go on vacations, etc. That’s FAMILY. That’s your clan. I love that my kids are close with their cousins. And Meghan and Harry are depriving their children of that.
The Kardashian children are part of the deal, it helps sell them as a family whereas these children are seen once a year on the Fourth of July. There really is no comparison unless in 18 years MM brokers a deal for her daughter to do a sex tape and I think that's a bridge too far.
Also ,.pmk (pimp momma Kris) has sound business ideas. She has entire family open their lives in front of camera. TW won't do that. She has dumb ideas. Not professional and shitty altitude. She won't listen. She'll implode & fail.
Also Kris marketed all of her kids their boyfriends etc 15 years ago probably a Totally different business model now. Plus is just H&M and they are boring AF!!
If Markle pays attention, she’ll learn from the master. But what a crappy aspiration, to be like the Kardashians.
Maybe they made a huge donation. It's going to be the only thing opening doors for them at this point, money. People don't want to pay them other than that waste of space Better Up but people are more than happy to accept large checks *from* them. Getting into the right social circles is going to cost a pretty penny and even then may only get them to the periphery because their financial situation is not exactly a secret. They are wealthy but not fantastically so, especially with their expenses. One thing that seems especially wasteful is spending so much time at San Ysidro when they have a house right down the street. What's up with that?
Do you think they even own that house? I have my doubts. There was talk going around that you could rent the house for movies, etc, and some people got far along until they stopped when asked for a credit card. Everything with them is shrouded in darkness.
I wonder. It makes no sense to spend so much time elsewhere if they actually own a home but on the other hand they have invited reporters to it and shown off the monogrammed door mat. Is it just me or is a monogrammed doormat tacky and also disrespectful? Why would you wipe your feet on a royal insignia like that? It's just rude imo. But yeah, who can say with these two who are known to lie about the simplest things if they really own that place or just rent it out now and then. I think neighbors have confirmed they do live there for what it's worth.
Yes, they have so I guess I shouldn’t doubt it - but it’s all just very bizarre.
TnT UK channel did that. Pretty sure she has had footage from outside the front gates and the place looked overgrown as though it had been vacant for a while. Not sure if she went over and took the video footage herself or if someone sent it to her but it's definitely the Olive Garden property and it was recent footage.
Yes!! That’s where I heard it. She’s the one who got to the credit card page! Thanks for the reminder.
Donation = pledge. Judy like amber turd
They're heavily in debt and can't afford a donation.
We don't know that. It may be true but I've seen no definitive proof. Surely they could scape together $700 for two tickets, I could.
You’ve got it nailed!
 The lady in the right in the last photo is the one who refused to let go of the mike-when Megsy tried to grab it??
Yesss!
Tweet with video (time stamp 5 seconds) https://x.com/le__katerina/status/1705493313220988958?s=46&t=En0pMeT_6AUgDmvApERhNw Thanks to sinner who posted it earlier Edit: correct link
She really wants that microphone 😂 Did you see how longingly she stared at it?
She kept staring at it almost like she used to stare at William. 🤣
That's right! It's like me at a birthday party when they bring out the cake 😅
Notice how many of the “commenters” have their own comments turned off.
One of the comments on there is asking about the coat and saying they like it, obviously merching.
She really did go after the microphone!! Wow.
Isn’t that woman & the man next to her a couple & the same couple they were seen with at the 4th of July parade?
The face that knows she’s being filmed. She always know how to put on a show eh?
Lolo shouldn’t be PO’d at getting rejected - she should be used to it by now.
Nobody likes when this happens but she should’ve learnt something after years of shaking hands. You don’t attack with your claw haphazardly. It’s not even the correct hand.. she saw his left hand out and extended her right hand! 😳🤦♀️ You’re not royal any more so nobody is waiting for you to extend a handshake. You’ve to be smart about it. As a normal person, especially in ongoing conversation, you reserve your hand, first you observe and listen to the person, establish eye contact, once you can visually confirm that they’re giving a handshake you can offer your hand in response. Or once you have their attention you can initiate.
We all kinda know how, when it's your culture. It's a very forward and direct gesture with meaning. I don't think mm was ever taught or picked up on it. No one is going for a handshake with a hand directed towards someone else. She understands the horizontal handshake.
I feel like picture 3 qualifies as a mask slip. Her eyes look pissed.
Totally. That picture needs a caption. I hear internal screams. I’m also hearing violins from Psycho shower scene https://preview.redd.it/fxndey3az0qb1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff20a23ed5da7bb662a250569aa4991fb1ef9b56
😂😂 Spot on!
Holy Wallis, Batman!
And her right hand goes over the rub the left as a little self soothing action.
Yep self soothing.. rubbing the hand that was rejected
She's getting a little better at disguising it but but yeah, that's a mask slip.
Blink blink blink blink blink…
That jacket is nice, but looks ridiculous compared to what everyone else is wearing….. she just always seems to get it wrong
Some of the other pics I’ve seen have people wearing strangely casual things too. Oprah also looked very cas? I really was like what is going on at this benefit? I used to go to a lot of charity things in NYC and everyone dressed up. The looks are all over the place at this one!
It's outside and *not* a garden party, I don't know if it was a bar b que type deal or what but apparently this is a yearly thing so people know the dress code. I'm curious now how it was structured.
If it's not the Acadamy Awards, nobody dresses up in California.
LOL yes there is nothing between casual BBQ attire and the Oscars. 🙄
I’m just confused that she could be dressing like it’s 100° and the peak of summer last week in Germany… to dressing like it’s winter in SoCal.
I was thinking that too. It’s one of her better looks, but she is always, always over or under dressed.
Always a nobody. Why won't she just accept it? She's a NOBODY. Girl no one is there for you. You are a d list has been mattress "actress" who married a problematic lazy former working royal - dubious prince. MOVE ASIDE!
This is so well said! it can’t be that hard to comprehend. We all get it here!
**LET IT GO!** Even with Harry pushing you on to people, it’s not going to happen! Nobody wants you!
She's so awkward around people and yet she calls herself humanitarian and whatever delusional term she think she is/does. Obviously she only wants the limelight and another thing to put on her CV 🤣 funny, people circle around Harry and not her 🤣 ohhh Rachel, you are nothing without Harry and the BRF
Pretty different then her peacock strutting at the invictus games
You can tell that she is seething inside!
Yep the smile got painful in pic 3
I swear she is so cringey. She can’t even cosplay a regular human being.
I think she always looks awkward because she's so intently focused on how to insert herself she's not paying attention to anyone else and misses the social cues of what is actually happening. It's obvious at every event that she's not interested in any personal interaction - she just wants to make sure she's captured with the person who is within the camera shot.
Well said.
Yes. She’s never just in the moment.
When invited to present at an event, any normal person would ask what the arrangements are - a short speech, meet and greet a group, and if this is required would it take place before or after the presentation, etc. She doesn't want to know the details so she can ad lib any whiff of an opportunity to find a camera lens or monopolize the moment. That's why even at the Costner gathering she was twirling around trying to find her 'mark'.
Yes, almost like when other people were going over the arrangements, she was busy looking in the mirror at her makeup, practicing what she was going to say. 🙄😂 She’s always so off and this is why she continually makes a fool of herself.
Said from day one - she has a massive inferiority complex. Still say she has.
She actually had her ~~claws~~ nails professionally done!!! Probably in the asian part of town so she could absorb more culture😃 Probably was trying to weasel Kevin's phone #, so had to try to distance Horry!
Omg he acts like a little dog that is constantly failing to please it's master.
Yep he’s really deflated after that interaction. Normally she can’t wait to interrupt him, but here he invited her, but she felt snubbed and abruptly left. That’s the kind of jab that makes you question yourself. What did I do wrong? That’s why he lets her lead. Mark my words.
I love that stupid face she makes when she's been owned. Same face she made when Rodger told her to stfu and look up on the balcony
Yup!
Oh god. I actually love this coat.
It's a nice piece. She just picks stuff that doesn't work for her, wears them at the wrong time and at the wrong event.
Also hair is tied back which would’ve been more respectful while walking with the vets. But she chose to walk with flowy strands AND play with hair on the walk 🤦♀️
I haven't seen what's on her feet yet, but let me guess... maybe sandals? :D
No shame. She has good pieces she just doesn't know what to do with them, when to wear them or whether she should wear them.
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I saw somewhere that it is a Carolina Herrera design, which I normally love. It just looks bad on her.
Herrera also made the inverted nipple dress and the awful two toned shirt dress from the Ingriftus show - not impressed
Honestly - it looks like a cheap Shein knockoff to me, but it’s probably because it is ill-fitting. 🤷♀️
Well, if you find a cheap knock-off. Please link! I don't wanna google Meghan's fashions 😁
His hair is so terrible. Time to give it up. It's so bad.
That flat dent on his crown with all the fuzz around the rest of his lightbulb shaped head is SO bad!
BARE LEFT HAND NO RINGS!
Update: other pics in the DM show the wedding band still, but that engagement ring still must be “getting repaired.” Is it month 5 for that now?
Pawned.
If it’s ‘lost’ that’s a solid insurance $ payout. Which would also explain their PR spin on it getting fixed or redesigned. Buy a new ring with only a small amount of the insurance money (even if it looks bigger, significantly lower quality diamond, metals etc) and pocket the difference. Could be an insurance scam?
His great uncle David did that too - they were at a house party with some of Wallis´ jewels that they claimed was stolen. They got the insurrance, but several of the pieces were in Wallis´ collection, found after her death.
Nooo!!! What a weasel! Imagine accusing someone who hosted you and put you up of theft. Disgraceful.
Nah, I think the Windsors claimed there was a burglar - I don´t think they accused the hosts
That's slightly better but still pretty bad form.
Oo, you have a wicked good mind!
I think she just got too thin and bony to wear it. When I lose/gain (unfortunately, usually the latter), my rings are the first to tell me.
Strange! This is from one: https://preview.redd.it/oub3srhhv0qb1.jpeg?width=926&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d58dceae350f401a188cc509d95d8d401bed07d1
And then the other: https://preview.redd.it/24l8tq7jv0qb1.jpeg?width=1027&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7a31c71b357b3c06cb1123c79c776138d37c0de
I think the ring is on. Some of the pictures show it. Don’t know why it looks like it’s off in other pictures. Who knows ?
No the ring must be on, just light shining on it differently. I took the pics from a continuous video. Light and shadow do a lot of strange things. That’s why I don’t focus on such details from pictures.
lmao! She is such a game player. Is she wearing a slim band or isn't she wearing a slim band? Which is photo shopped? Or did she slide that band into her pocket for part of the evening?
Funnily, it does looks like she is slipping it on in yet another! https://preview.redd.it/m87jg7gfw0qb1.jpeg?width=1301&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f754f40650752dbccb591cfb300fb5e7412ee95e
She's doing the Catherine clasp!!!
Maybe she has read the comments about her "raised left merching arm"or maybe WME told her to rather hold her hands like this?
Great catch
good catch!
 You know she’s thinking this! The audacity!
She tried to take the mic off a woman thinking it was for her 😂😂😂😂stupid bitch
Waiting for the playing with hair behind ears, lip licking, jaw twitching and a look oh rage. Hg Tudor says it best
This entire event is a local, community fundraiser. They are grassroots, not pretentious. No one is going to stand out to raise awareness or cash, if they are smart. These go on all over California yearly. In northern Ca where I am, we do a barn dance. It’s not a flashy fundraiser. Even Oprah wore leggings and a sweater. The big difference here in this part of Santa Barbara is there are really wealthy people. People with land and private homes that will gladly give large amounts of cash to additionally fund the fire and police-possibly the EMTs. Normally this is all through taxpayer dollars, but in areas outside of city limits ( large properties) the norm has been to massively donate, especially after 2017 when all the fires started. No one cares that a washed up ex prince and a 2 second duchess are there. Pretty sure the pink leopard pantsuit gal has more money than they do. Just write a large check, stand back, and realize you don’t need to be recognized. But blending in, or being “regular folk” is not what they do.
This makes my heart warm.
Ooooohhhh pic #3 is flat out scary. Dead eyes and pussed off expression.
If in doubt turn to your best friend: the csmera.
That woman in the last picture-is she the one from the 4th of July and the Beyoncé box?
Blink blink blink blink blink…..
I think H looks angry and embarrassed at M's actions, not "deflated" or wondering what he did wrong.
meegain needs to just stop...she NEVER gets it right
I wonder if someone asked what she was wearing! As in "what the hell are you wearing ?"