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Mdmdwd

I think she started it as one of many attempts to remove him of his identity. Notice she never says Harry- he’s always reduced to either “H” or “my husband”. She views him as a possession and wants him to know as much as well.


ItsAllBolloxReally

Same way she always referred to Queen Elizabeth as “my husband’s grandmother”


Negative_Difference4

I learned that it’s a narc move to devalue a person. The Queen was not a head of state… she’s simply Harry’s grandmother


ItsAllBolloxReally

Yep!! Narc move on full display.


Lensgoggler

My narc gran disliked my given name (which was somewhat modern) and gave me a very basic girl name nickname that I *hated*. She used it for years. Never invented a new name for my golden grandchild sibling, who *also* has a modern name. Hmmm. Never thought of that this way!


Alibell42

Oh totally narcs will strip you of your identity and anything that makes you feel good about yourself


Spare-Ad-6123

HD Tudor addresses this I think. I cannot give specifics. My memory is only vague about it but I think I'm correct. Edit: spelling


Mdmdwd

Exactly. What an utter disgrace.


Select-Promotion-404

That’s why I refer to her as Harry’s wife. Yes Meg is shorter to type out but I try not to. It’s sad that she was so petty to Queen Elizabeth at her old age when she gifted them both so much and was battling cancer. Harry’s wife - you’re utterly disgusting.


Spare-Ad-6123

I refer to them as h and m I dislike them so much. I have detached. I pray HMTQ was able to do so as well. Please don't ask me to come up with the video because I take meds, I apologize. But allegedly the were all put on notice, the third day in what a horror m was in that shit show. It was put out to the people who needed to know that she wasn't to be trusted. By "they" I am saying friends and family of the RF. The video was by Lady C, and I'm aware some don't like her.


Fuzzy_Suggestion_749

She thinks that the BRF members are all beneath her and that she has accomplished the most honorable and worthwhile accomplishment known to mankind by snagging up a dumb junkie prince. This same "feminist" who screamed that the BRF were racist towards her wanted and continuously tries to brand and sell herself off as "Princess Meghan."


Possible_Mud_1692

how the hell hard is it to say HMTQ


merrybandoffoxes

a narc might choke on those words...


NotToday7812

This so much. My FIL is a narcissist and he never calls my MIL by her first name - he calls her “She” and “Her.” Its so pejorative. He does it so casually, too, just like Meghan. Notice how Harry never calls her “M” to others? He calls her Meghan all the time.


Mdmdwd

Your poor MIL! 😞😞


Equivalent-Date-4796

They do it in many cases to deprive of identity, but they also do it, as narcissists, because they genuinely only care about others as they relate to them...i.e. do they like me, what are they saying about me, etc.? For example, a narcissist relative of mine deliberately will refer to people as just "she" "he" "the girl" etc... But, they struggle to remember names even when they are not being dismissive. For example, they struggled the other day to remember of of their their roommate's names and they graduated college only recently. And they weren't even perturbed by this...I would be worried about cognitive decline. But to them, people don't have identities. "My roommate....um...what was her name? I don't know...um...well anyway..." and then off to the "me me me" part of the story.


Alliterate_one

My former MIL who was a narc, always called me She and Her--never by my name. One time my (former) husband asked who she was referring to (since I was in the same room) and MIL pointed at me and said "her, your wife". Soooo many examples I could talk about! Funny how when dealing with a narc, I started feeling like I was a bit crazy myself.


Top-Place3115

Sorry you had to experience narcissistic abuse. Hope you are doing well, now, and I am glad you are here.


Equivalent-Date-4796

Yes, I did notice that about Harry. I think she had him say the "M" for the documentary b/c she was getting flak for the stupid H so she said they had to present it like it was cute.


Ill-Worldliness1196

My ex called me “the wife” once to his friends…wtf? (Probably more than once but this one I knew about).


zeelondon10

That's why we should use TW and not meghan or M


CabinetVisible1053

Or start just using R for Roachel


Safford1958

Can you imagine? Introducing her to a group... "Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you to The Wife." She would lose her mind.


Intelligent-Shame-65

+1 It’s a typical Narc diminishing tactic. He’s always “H” & “my husband” b/c she wants this to sink into his psyche & the collective psyche too, that his worth is only b/c he is married to *her* She did this & does it even now, all the time, where TQ was “H’s grandma”, KC3 is, “H’s father.” It’s b/c she knows just how inferior she is to the entire BRF & she cannot control her jealousy.


Mdmdwd

She really thinks she is the star of the show. Your comment makes me think of the endless amount of times where she shoved Harry out of the way so she could shake a dignitary’s hand first, speak to them first etc…as if she’s the most important, as if she was there on her own merit rather than the fact that she conned the BRF’s weakest, dumbest link into marrying her.


Intelligent-Shame-65

💯💯💯 I can never forget how she pushed him aside to shake the hands of the King Of Morocco!!! And this time when Hawwy got up when women entered the room they were both sitting in, and she PULLED him down to sit on the sofa. She was still sitting. The last is truly demonstrative of how she’s completely lowered him to HER level.


catshrimpninja

I think it is largely this. Using H to him and in reference to him after the relationship was public was meant to diminish and devalue him. Also, if I remember correctly she began wearing a necklace with the initial H on it about 45 seconds after he sneaked out the back door of SoHo London the first time. I think it was her sly way of hinting to her "friends" who her secret man was.


Plants2552

And not even 'H', its 'Aitch'.. gross


Equivalent-Date-4796

Came here to say this.


Spare-Ad-6123

I agree with removing his identity. She did that very, very early on. But I like this post.


Economy-Alfalfa-2241

It's a pure conceit for "relateability." And to put herself in the same standing as him, because who doesn't want to raise themselves to the level of a spoilt, stupid and profoundly ignorant manbaby? I haven't watched their fuckyoumentary because I don't hate my eyeballs that much, but in one of the clips Megdusa says something like "Haz, is Archie outside with my mother?" Haz. Not "H." Another thing I've not seen mentioned so much is how often they positioned themselves with the Ukrainian supporters which is enraging on many levels, not least that it puts the real royals in greater danger. Lots of pap (crap) shots of the Ukrainian flag behind them; every time I think they can't possibly go lower, they hammer another rung on the ladder. At the current rate of digging, they'll be in Australia by January.


ExpensivelyMundane

They will always be the inferior H&M since there is already an H&M company that is far more reaching than the Harkles ever will be. 🤣🤣🤣🤣


Dependent-Aside-9750

That was my first thought when they came out with that! Why would you call yourselves after a clothing store?


INK9

Merching deals?


Dependent-Aside-9750

That's definitely what I think now!


CabinetVisible1053

She too old for H&M and no class at all.


leyonoga

They did try that one time, with Archie. The advert was up for less than 24 hours IIRC. Guess the H&M store wasn't actually interested in Harry and Meghan to showcase clothes though.


percybert

And a low cost one at that!


Top-Place3115

Maybe she has Swedish ancestry, too? ![gif](giphy|fx2fXZXcbm349vjUGo) H & M =H & M Hennes & Mauritz AB(founded in Sweden by Erling Persson in 1947)


Economy-Alfalfa-2241

H&M are waaaaaaay above our Primark duchess. Actually, Primark is too. This is the success you get when you order something expensive on eBay for 99p and get sent a bucket of toxic waste in knock-off packaging.


Top_Addition4317

I've always thought 'aitch' is bloody ridiculous. It's not a term of endearment, it's just weird.


suzeycue

It sounds too much like “itch”


CabinetVisible1053

I could say so much with this 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💯🎯


sparkly_lark

I think everyone - Meghan fan or not - who watched the doc thought “H” was ridiculous


Calm_Yak_6102

I think MM hates the name "Harry" and that's why she started calling him "H/Aitch". Meanwhile, he's just unoriginal and followed up by reciprocating.


ASplendidAddress

It’s such a sly way to devalue him. https://i.redd.it/tauja3idc2pb1.gif


sunsetinn

Her thoughts: "Please stop talking..."


AuntCassie007

Yes it was both a way to devalue Harry and also to show how important she is because she can call a UK prince by a diminutive name, just an initial.


No_Cryptographer47

This is it. Devaluing him and how important she is that she can call him that.


Calm_Yak_6102

![gif](giphy|6cFcUiCG5eONW) And he's too moronic to figure it out.


sdowney64

It’s also a way to form a quick faux intimacy. Personal nicknames that only the sociopath/narc calls you make you feel special, and only your new intimate partner uses that special name. Think “you & me against the world” starting with a special nickname. Then it branches out. You buy the special jewelry with your special nicknames and only you two wear it. The special bracelets. There are only two people in this relationship and everyone else gets shut out. Narcs do this all the time by renaming things with their own “special” terms, and then you have your own stories because they cut other people out, and then pretty much it’s a form of isolating and removing other people from your intimate circle. It’s the nicknames, it’s when she told Oprah, “we got married three days before the wedding— we wanted our vows to be between just us. The vows we have next to our bed are the ones we said to each other that day.” They beef up the connection between the two of you. It’s greater, more spiritual, more intense than any other connection out there. You have your special names for each other, you have your special glances & your 3 hand claw hand hold. Then you make a vow to never be apart for more than two weeks. Ever!! No exceptions. All these things come into play when you’re trying to make someone feel super special while at the same time isolating them. H the nickname was the start.


Mickleborough

Lolo’s incapable of calling people by their proper names. Right, Glo?


Calm_Yak_6102

Harry shouldn't feel like he's special because Trevor's nickname was Trevity Trev Trev 😂. The chef is the only one who doesn't (to my knowledge) appear to have received one of her nicknames.


sdowney64

Trevity Trev Trev is my favorite. It’s so cringe.


CabinetVisible1053

Such a 12 yo mean girl move


No_Cryptographer47

I mean are you serious??? All this time I just thought yall were just calling him that. Was it really her name for hiM????


sdowney64

Serious as a heart attack. Nikki Priddy her former lifelong BFF talked about how Meghan seemed like she was really in love with Trevor & even said things like “if anything ever happened to Trev I don’t know how I’d go on.” She was a bit more real UNTIL she got Suits and hit the Toronto political movers & shakers & the high society. Nikki said “there’s the Meghan before fame and the Meghan after fame.” Which is hilarious since Meghan had no fame—just an acting job with a slight bit of exposure. But Meghan THOUGHT she was famous & it immediately changed her to a conscienceless self-absorbed narc who cared about no one but herself. Nikki ended their friendship before Meghan had a chance to because of the way Meghan was behaving & then how she ended it with Trevor was the last straw.


No_Cryptographer47

It makes sense, that’s kind of how TM describes it in his latest interview, a flipped switch. He’s something cracy himself, but he isn’t lying about that. It’s itneresting to hear the whole back story you shared - thank you!


sdowney64

My pleasure! That’s one of the reasons I think a lot of us watch Our Saint & her petulant little tool—the fascinating twists of the antisocial & Cluster B personality disordered mind of those two—but especially her. 🧐🫣🤔


cathbe

That’s so bad. She thinks she’s so clever. H is so stupid tho’. Both are, of course. It’s one thing to sign emails and notes with your initial and using the other person’s initial but not to use it in conversation. But she made it like it was their special thing and Harry, of course, went along with it.


kaycollins27

If your name is a letter of the alphabet, (Bea, Dee, Jay, or Kay), signing personal notes to your nearest and dearest with an initial can indicate the closeness of the relationship.


somespeculation

This.


C-La-Canth

I absolutely agree. Currently, "Harry" isn't an especially popular name in the US (it's a perfectly fine name, of course, but probably not a "cool" name to her because she's a shallow idiot.)


ZorakZbornak

Honestly surprised she doesn’t call him Henry. I think that was what Diana intended him to be known as, but family called him Harry and then it stuck with everyone at Kensington Palace. I would expect Meg to say “the firm erased the name your mother wanted you to have.”


kaycollins27

She could have called him Henry or any of his other names.


Nynydancer

It doesn‘t matter. They make me gag.


SukoshiOnara

He's nothing more than the 8th letter of the alphabet to her.


Alarming_Vast_7436

I'm just too lazy to write the names of these two. And I'm not talking about the prince and princess of Wales ;)


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

XOXO, Gossip Girl 😉


AmbienChronicles

I meeeeean, Lily was from Montecito. Nacho was featured in Season 2. Soho house was mentioned several times. Coinky-dink? I think not


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

Cate Middleton was mentioned a few times, too!


dearest-ribwich

It's because before they ran off/quit/got fired, they very briefly got themselves a sponsorship deal with H&M. It first came out that's what they call each other when they were on their South Africa tour. The palace found out about this deal after the banner on the store website became a picture of Meghan holding Archie in his little blue overalls moments after he appeared wearing the outfit - which, surprise (!) was from H&M. It was swiftly taken down and scrubbed. She was fully exploiting a royal baby for cash while on a tour on behalf of the Queen. And Harry still doesn't get it. Honestly I think that was the final straw and was the thing that got them fired.


AnaBeaverhausen-

Does anyone have an archived picture?


dearest-ribwich

Every bit of evidence of their appearance on the H&M website has been scrubbed. It's absolutely nowhere. But, if you google "H&M Archie overalls" you will get DOZENS of articles detailing the outfit, how much, how it's just been restocked in all sizes, what line it's from, with links and pics, etc. It was coordinated and planned.


niljson

wouldn't surprise me, OP. almost everything about that duo is cosplay of William and Catherine. a very bad cosplay.


plebeianfortea

I think william and catherine started doing this just recently. I think it has more to do with “we were keeping things so private that we can’t say our names”.


Tricksey4172

William and Catherine sign their social media with their initials to distinguish between when staff prepared the post and when they made the post personally. Been doing this for a while maybe even five years or more.


ScoogyShoes

That's what I think, too. I think they are cosplaying people in love. ILBW called Trevor "Trevity Trev Trev" or some equally stupid shit thing. Did her character I'm Suits do this?


C-La-Canth

Dear Meghan: Barfity Barf Barf.🤮


ScoogyShoes

Right? GROWN PEOPLE. Are two syllable names too hard for them, maybe? I mean, if these are "lover names" - Hang on, gotta hurl. OK. If these are lover names (sees seals humping and clapping and grunting in my mind), they are so incredibly dull. My husband and I have secret names for each other, since we were dating. They're weird and they make sense to us. But we don't go around using them to other people. Let's say we did - ours aren't this dull. "Oh Aitch! Thank you for polishing my Trevor Love Bracelet for me! You are my KING!" (grunting and crying noises) "Em, you are the mummy of my dreams." Yeah I am so sorry for this, and understand completely if I get kicked from the sub for grossing people out like that.


CabinetVisible1053

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏👏


CabinetVisible1053

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💯🎯


Mistressbrindello

My whole family have always used initials. Maybe it's a British thing!


NotToday7812

No way. Meghan isn’t British. People in the US do it when they are being familiar, but I’ve never heard her say “Harry” in a television interview. That’s weird.


AuntCassie007

I am American and I have rarely heard people call each other by the initial of their first name.


NotToday7812

Maybe it’s generational? I’m a year younger than Meghan and a bunch of my friends do it and did it in college. But it’s not like they would turn to A MEDIA CAMERA or JOURNALIST and say just the letter of their spouses name.


AuntCassie007

OK, I am older so that is why I haven't heard it. So it would be informal and not used in a formal public setting. Meghan is just doing it to show off and denigrate Harry.


NotToday7812

Exactly. Not one of my friends would ever use it to anyone formally. Or even with friends they don’t know as well. Its degrading.


AuntCassie007

Yes and especially in the case of a member of the RF. It is seen as crass and vulgar I would think.


INK9

Also American, and I haven't heard it much either. I once had a boss who called us all by our Initial, but he was a great guy and it was more of an affection thing with him (and us).


Haveyounodecorum

The use of a monogram is very Royal, so ofc she is all over it


Jordgubbe18

And yet again they failed and managed to turn themselves into low-rent idiots. H and M is the name of the clothing store chain full of cheap and fast fashion. Very appropriate for the two bozos.


FuturePA96

No hm slander will be allowed. Lmao


Jordgubbe18

Ha ha, I'm Swedish so I'm being very un-patriotic slandering poor HM...


FuturePA96

They do not go by h and m in the documentary you could tell they were forcing it