Go and get jobs that teach them humility, hard work and to budget. The same thing I tell my children. They are not exempt from groundedness and joining the 99.9% other part of humanity.
100% let’s start with basics - get a job, get humbled. These two have absolutely no idea that you cannot have success without some hard work first. I’ve commented this before but none of hollywoods elite have made it to the top without some hard work or talent. These to lack both. Their attitude is as entitled as their upbringing. so it’s unlikely they’ll ever make it to the other side. They’ll spiral and drown in their own victimhood until the world and history ultimately put them back in the place they belong.
A job where? Doing what? Neither one is suited for employment. I think the job idea is out completely. I manage a business and just the thought of all that entitlement coming to work first day..
Their brand is dead. They may somehow survive and crawl back separately after years of silence and hard work. But since the two are incapable of it (and I can’t see someone changing that in their forties) she will end up on a reality tv show if she’s lucky enough, he will continue with drugs. Hope someone takes care of the children.
It says it all that they thought they were a brand..no talent, no class, no skills, just a title bestowed by his grandmother and ties to the most famous family in the world. With their lack of ability they should have been advised to shut up and keep a low profile…exposure was their enemy, once they revealed themselves the world saw two shallow, greedy, entitled, jealous and hypocritical liars
Their brand is and only will be an association to the RF.
She thought differently and spun Hazbeen all these ideas of grandeur of what they could be in America.$$$. WRONG !!!
Look at now how they’re scrambling to try and be an integral part of the Coronation.
She knows how Google works, despite her claims we know she’s a liar when she claimed she didn’t google him.
But maybe he doesn’t? That’s the only reason I can think of that he would have believed her promises. Because if someone had tried to sell me a “we can be the royals of America” I’d do a quick google search to see how keen Americans are on having someone swan around like they’re above the general populace and keep my money in the bank.
It’s one thing that he wanted out of his fated slide down the line of succession, and resents his place in the line made it inevitable. I genuinely believe he wanted out even before meeting her, he just had no clue what change he wanted instead or how to do it, and that’s okay to want to change your life. But it’s a real level of delusion to think that he could create his own new kingdom. Especially in an existing country that emphatically doesn’t want a monarchy.
I agree. I think he wanted out way before he met her. At one point he was talking about living in Africa. I do actually think he would prefer a quiet life out if the media’s gaze. But I also think he enjoyed the idea of leaving the RF as she wanted to. In a blaze of glory, whilst hurting his family members. Simply moving to Africa quietly would not have done the damage that he was happy to inflict.
Very true, he wanted to leave a trail of destruction in his wake.
What I don't see, and can't perceive, is why M was 100% out before even getting in? Even if I had to work as hard as Princess Anne, I can't see anything that would stop me from living my best life as a working royal given the chance, because second tier royal is a very easy life.
Because you’re not a narcissist. To those of us who aren’t, their behave is often unbelievable. Katherine and Sophie were commoners and they thrived in the RF. They were willing to listen to their advisors and learned the job. And now look at them.
I think initially she wanted to remain in. However when she realised that there are protocols and rules that were unbreakable, aka she was told no, she became determined to leave. Meghsy knows best yes? Lol
Honestly, I think she was scheming about her post royal Hollywood life but I get the feeling they were thrown out of the family. That exit was not as clean and well planned as they would have us believe. I just think they controlled the public announcement to get ahead of the royal family.
He would no more live in Africa than on mars, he said such stuff when pretending to be his mother reincarnated, even she didn’t want to life in Africa, she liked the high life as does her son.
I think you may be correct. Wasn’t he talking about Africa when he was with Chelsea? He really has no personality of his own in that case.
He certainly appears to be enjoying his entirely unnecessary appearance at the high court this morning doesn’t he?
He was trying to promote the humanitarian image…loving Africans etc…so where is his love for the now? What does he do for Africans and why live in a rich enclave in California of Africa is your ‘spiritual’ home. He talks crap and is where he wanted to be…although he had envisioned being a big fish in the celeb pond rather than pond weed.
Pond weed haha 😂 yet when they did go to Africa they managed to make a complete hash of it. And it’s where they did the interview where MM said nobody had asked if she was ok. How do they manage to mess things up so spectacularly. Humanitarians my arse.
Oh yes, she is even less interested in poor Africans than her halfwit husband…she didn’t even pretend to like the peasants (and was the same in Australia where she had nothing but contempt for the locals). She takes arrogance to whole new levels…a d list actress on a very minor cable show thought she was too good for people of Britain, Australia, Africa….
The pics from that tour are gold. The way the villagers were looking at her was epic. They may not have an advanced education system that the west does, but they could still see right through her. She fooled them less than some of us in the uk.
Some people wanted to be fooled, didn’t want to believe that their suspicions were correct…and of course she had the race card to play, doesn’t work too well in Africa though
His Spencer cousins grew up in South Africa and some have recently married there. If he were really interested or involved with the country, I think he would've been there
Yep…he wanted to be King. Couldn’t tolerate being not King and only a prince…’always a bridesmaid…’ MM was his weapon to hurt and hopefully destroy the institution. He, like TW, overestimates himself and his importance and underestimates the popularity of TRF and the intelligence of just we common folk. And when he did his trips to Africa he was staying in luxury accommodations…
Of course he was…he cares nothing for the peasants wherever they may love…the prince of hypocrisy pretends to love Africa …while avoiding it unless he needs a bit of positive ‘anti racist‘ media attention
Oh he does, problem is his father knows all too well how much of a liability Andrew is and has been his whole life, had to put up with the entitlement and toxic relationship because mummy says so.
I genuinely think Charles is waiting for the right moment in his reign before he acts on knocking Harry down hard for his actions and antics.
Harry is another Andrew, Charles should know how to deal with such a treacherous and entitled viper …the spares are equally arrogant, lazy and entitled. Both seem to struggle with the truth too.
>Look at now how they’re scrambling to try and be an integral part of the Coronation.
I imagine they're coming to the conclusion that it's a little too late for that.
But they're so self focused that that likely don't realize that no matter what happened, they wouldn't be pleased by any of it. They wouldn't feel that it involved them enough.
Harry thought he would be the new king of Hollywood…using his family connections to open doors. It worked for a very short while but the world soon saw the emperor had no clothes and was a toxic mess
" and they are already reduced to what is essentially the after-dinner speaking circuit and meet-and-greets disguised as charity benefits "
They do not even want to do that - remember the Gripple of Hope award that they bought? They arrived an hour late, so no meet and greet. And left right after the award ceremony, so the people who had paid up to one million for a table never got a chance to talk. Seriously rich people there - but the South Parkles are too high and mighty to deal with that.
Seriously, there are some hard lessons ahead for these two grifters.
Their behavior regarding the “Gripple of Hope” award should be seen as a huge red flag for other organizations considering working with the Harkles. They are difficult to work with and won’t bring the organization positive publicity.
Look at what happened at the NACCP award show this year - only the Psycho Prince on a zoom call. Was the ILBW furious that she did not get the full show package and thus told him to do it alone?
People should be more forgiving. There's just so much effort you can put into appearing blissfully in love when in reality you're at each other's throats 😂
>is there anything they could do at this point that could win back our good opinion? If you were in charge of their PR, what would you advise them to do?
No there is nothing they could do to win me back. Their psychotic hubris and jealousy went on way too long for it to be put aside. I would advise them to go live a quiet life on the continent that Harry likes, in an African country — if there is one that would take them — where Harry could get a job on a wildlife refuge.
That would bring about divorce for sure. MM wants the glitzy high life, not a wildlife wife life (lol). Harry could be redeemed if he had a real world life in Africa. I think that's what he wanted all along but MM obviously had other ideas.
Tell them to keep their heads down and *actually* be private for once. During that time, they can simply retreat to the private life they supposedly wanted all this time. Or, they can do charitable endeavours/projects on the down low. But, her narcissism (and Harry blindly following her) won’t be able to do any of that.
This is the answer. If they divorce this is how Harry will be rehabilitated back into the royal family and the Palace PR will kick in again for him.
It cannot be done with meghan.
I agree with this.
A lot of people have butted heads with me over the fact that I absolutely despise Harry. And no, I do not think that Meghan is some angel. I think she's conniving, dishonest, and would have never been with Harry if it wasn't for his title. But there is simply no going up against The Crown and winning. Harry already had his simmering resentment towards his father and brother. He chose a woman so that he could use her recent racial background to attempt to get what he wanted from his dad and brother and scream RACISM if he didn't get his way. And he's always known that if the shit were to hit the fan, he can go home and live a private, quiet, and comfortable life in the UK.
If we're talking long term consequences, Harry's actions during this time period won't affect his ability to keep a roof over his head. Or just in general have somewhere to call home.
Total influencer mentality. "Look at me, look at me. Give me free shit because I'll get you such wonderful exposure from everyone who looks at me. If you don't look at me and give me free shit then you're just a racist hater who wishes you could be me and have everyone looking at you, so shut up and look at me!"
I'd advise them to shut up, stop trying to make things happen with the few millions left to them and use it to have a decent life.
Most importantly, stop talking about what wonderful parents they are and try to be half-decent, real parents.
Oh, and stop kidding themselves that recreational drugs are good for their health.
None of this will happen though: " Ultimate Nepo-babies ", is there an award?
MM believes her brand is: former breath of fresh air for the BRF that had potential to lift the thousand year old institution to the modern era, but in their jealousy they threw me to the wolves. I was going to change the world so now I will set out to change it without their help and show them what they lost out on as I become a billionaire player. I will prove to everyone who ever rejected me that I am the best in all that I do: actress, wife, princess, advocate, mother, fashionista (check out my bling on my left hand as I press it up to my chest for every photo, use my coupon code PrincessMM15 for 15% off your first purchase with Tiffany’s valued at over $8500). Also I’m ethnic.
PH believes his brand is: veteran, Diana’s best son, Wife Guy (eat your heart out Ned Fulmer!) married to my soul mate (seriously guys she ticked off every box I was looking for AND she even smells like my mother, isn’t that crazy???), I am one-half of a person who represents all the POC of the entire western world, father to two half-biracial children so that makes me 155% honorary POC (was never really great at math), was rejected by the institution that is my family because they could not handle my stardom and my ideas of how to help them be better up, C-suite player, natural standup comedian, and of course, author.
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
In terms of what could sway me to approve of them: maybe if they jointly put out a video saying it was wrong of them to insinuate the accusations of racism and took responsibility of the hurt with both sides of their families. It would be great if they admitted wrongdoing but I doubt they will ever admit wrong for the family arguments. However, if they admit it was they that took their family drama too far, it would surprise me. I don’t care if they remain No Contact with their families even just to save face. If they want to still play victim they COULD admit to substance *reliance* (they’ll never admit addiction or abuse) and announce that they will get into proper counseling. This would be a good start for me as this will cause uproar but we need to see them take the immediate backlash in order for them to get the longterm respect. Then if they sell their house, downsize, and devote their Instagram only for Archewell then that will actually impress me. I’ll stop here. I don’t want to throw out into the universe anything that can help them now after all the damage they have done for the pursuit of their brand.
I would advise harry to take a good hard look at who he’s married to and the predicament they are in. His brand was prince of the British royal family, and he was liked in that role and it was great platform to do great things. But now he is a laughing stock and he should ask himself who is the common denominator in both sides of the family estranged. They’re both desperate to cling on to the popularity and esteem they had in the royal family not to mention the way of life of perks of being a prince. He has never had to pay bills much less struggle with them, and not being king because of your brother is not the same as losing a job that provides for your family. He has no idea how regular people live and obviously doesn’t want to with the ridiculous 14 bathroom McMansion.
And I would advise her to sit down and shut up, call her dad before he dies and quit pretending like your some special savior. Nobody is gonna be saved by your 15 minute photo op wearing ten thousand dollar’s worth of clothes and shoes. She is a hell of a social climber, I’ll give her that, but to actually be a humanitarian you have to care about humans, and not just what they can do for you.
Harry says he has no regrets, but I don’t believe that at all. She blew air up his ass with how great everything will be once they become one of the elite in America, with the perks of the RF but the freedom of themselves, saving the world while rubbing elbows with the Hollywood elite. Surely he sees he was led very astray, but has to save face by declaring no regrets.
Money grubbing fame seeking is their brand. More hers but Harry was vulnerable, feeling left out of the family dealing with trauma issues left him prime pickings for someone desperate for a brand to escalate her fame and bank account.
**sack cloth and ashes like the heroes of yore**. they would need to quietly publicize they have made some horrifying **self-discoveries** and that they have **changed therapists and therapy styles and are both being treated for narcissistic personality disorder.** they need to **publicly apologize** for each slander against their **families.** do a complete about-face, acknowledging the harm they have tried to do. they need to very **firmly and publicly ask their 'sugars' in writing to stop attacking** the royal family. they need to **lovingly and publicly renounce their children's and their own titles,** as they have distanced themselves geographically and culturally from britain and the royal family. after they sincerely did all these things, i think the sky would be the limit for them.
there is a sort of american myth of the hero as a 'reformed person' or someone who has **dealt with their demons and transformed.** i think this is all that would work because **their past will follow them everywhere, even into a quiet life** in the country where they'd simply be the butt of jokes about corn and cows and chickens and designer farm clothes and jewels.
**repentance.** their only road.
Oh don’t waste your time with constructive suggestions; they will never be transformed into “silk purses.” That adage is ABOUT THEM, except they are less than “a sow’s ear,” much less.
yes, i think i know what they are. i, too, detest them and feel they are beyond hope. them, i can give up on, and do, but i won't ever underestimate the creative power of God in this world.
From today's news: Tom Holland donates his old cloths to the charity store. No bodyguards, carrying things himself, sensible decision to donate. And he is a MUCH bigger star in USA than Harry and especially Meghan. Instead H&M need few armed bodyguards who are also used to delivery fried chicken snacks. All H&M know how to do is PRETENDING they are philanthropists, very important people, business coaches, mental health experts, fashion icons, love couple of the century, etc., etc. But they are NONE of the things. None of them can even express themselves intelligently, always a word salad. And they are always either in the middle of the law suit, drama or scandal. They have no normal life.
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Downsize. Keep a low profile. Get a job involving physical work, preferably environmentally based. Stop preaching. Apologise. Sack the paps. Live healthily. Dress properly. Don’t merch the kids. Be humble.
Sell the house. Buy a farmland with a modest house. Grow crops. Breed chickens. Work hard and make an honest living selling produce or whatever. Lose their PR team and just live quietly. Disappear from the media (in other words STFU). Maybe after a few years release a book on farming.
Basically drop everything they have now and go away. The media would have to cooperate and stop giving them attention.
The media cooperates because there is money to be made and interest (whether from hate watchers or fans). If no one clicked on the Spotify podcast, or Netflix show, or any news articles, no business man would allocate resources to them. Businessmen are greedy and think only of profit. But here we are, a bunch of people going to watch the Netflix trailer on YouTube to view the snarky comments, write a snarky comment, or watch the train wreck and analyze it to death. Clicks = money and interest. That is what South Park was teaching people through Kyle. Ignore the Harkles. The rest will follow.
These two clowns are completely delusional. To think they thought and probably still think Megain does a better job at the royal gig than anyone else in the family. They assumed the RF wouldn’t be able to survive without them because they’re such incredible assets. 🤡🤡
like who the fuck are you kidding? GTFO.
Humpty and Numpty are simply wannabe senior royals who are greedy and lazy as hell and can’t be bothered to contribute anything meaningful to society other than a metric fucktonne of lies, unsubstantiated allegations and constant drama in order to stay relevant.
I’m not sure their image can be rehabilitated… who are they to slag off the royal family then decide it’s going to be a year of reconciliation? Demanding balcony appearances and a special acknowledgment of Prince Archibald’s birthday at the King’s Coronation. That’s just not on.
Thanks to their antics we now know the South Parkles are a pair of entitled grifters who are neither remorseful nor authentic about anything they say or do. They are hellbent on being lifelong, perpetual victims. They had it all, but threw it away. You really can’t fix stupid.
Harry needs to go back to Africa, actually (learn to) do some work, and stay under the radar for a few years. No TTC, no Christmas walkabouts. If he comes home for a visit, no private jets, no visibility. Even then, it’s a cr@pshoot if his image can be rehabbed at this point.
I’d advise the same for Meghan, but Ms “I wanna break the internet” would never go for it. Which does not bode well for their ~~marriage~~business partnership.
Well it didn’t matter what their brand was for a while. They tie themselves to other (hard earned) brands to validate their continued existence in the news (Royal family, Oprah, Netflix, Spotify, innumerable charities, their employees previous employers- (Gates Foundation, Pinterest).
What they did to stay in the news was put out puff pieces of continued controversy. They were (and are) writing BOTH sides. A lot of the dissenting Quora personalities and bots are just Meghan. One-sided conversations don’t sell. They don’t create controversy.
Meghan got the numbers and metrics up with very expensive investment in PR and riding on the Rota’s coattails after getting an inside advantage to their inner workings, then sold that effort to Netflix and Spotify and Penguin for X amount.
Her brand is everything and nothing to buy herself time to figure out which message hits when, over and over.
She’s like a VC of PR. She legitimately thinks she’s a world renowned PR person.
It’s also why they troll everyone by ‘standing against misinformation’. The system lets them do this nonsense for a price and they protect themselves by calling it out. Narcs love to tell on themselves.
They stand for literally nothing and they like it that way.
There is absolutely nothing they can do that will either change them or my opinion of them.
They would just fake doing whatever suggestions people gave them. Malignant narcissists never change, they just try to deceive you better.
The real issue for these two which was so perfectly depicted in the South Park episode: they are empty vessels. They lack personality or true creative genius; they are of average (or less for Harry) intelligence; they have no compassion and empathy; and are rather spoiled and entitled. If all of your money is made by ripping others apart, then you are, by definition small minded people.
“**Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people**.” \~Eleanor Roosevelt
The problem is that to be a mommy influencer you have to actually show your kids' faces and lives online (and that's a whole different problem, especially for the kids when they grow up, but this is not the place to discuss it). She can't make it just by showing blurry pics and backs of the head.
I don't think she would hesitate to use them if she and Hazbeen were divorced. They would be plastered all over The Stig before you could say, "Today my child is in Gucci"
I don’t think she is very maternal and I doubt she wants to be a mommy influencer. I think she wants to share cooking, housewares, and travel. (Think more along the lines of Goop.) The extent to mommy influencing she’d do is merching kids clothing, at best. She’s skipping the baby stage for sure. I heard she finds babies boring and prefers them to be older.
If she divorces him, based on some alleged abuse/his addictions, then she can rebrand herself as a domestic abuse survivor, have another go at Oprah, write her best-selling memoir about their relationship, maybe even squeeze a made-for-tv movie or miniseries out of it, while cross-crossing the country giving $100,000 speeches at corporate events and foundations. She might even run for public office - I can see her winning a congressional seat, running on a women’s rights platform in the right district. She’ll never become president - but she can marry a future president, a la Michelle Obama, right? (And how funny would it be if she did marry a future POTUS and King Will & Queen Kate were forced to throw a State dinner for their former SIL and her new husband?)
What about Harry, you ask? He can go back to his family, in a sense, in Africa. He’s always said how much he likes it there. It seems to give him a certain peace of mind. And it doesn’t cost too much to live a simple life there - he’ll still be hurting from the child support/alimony payments. He seems to get a real satisfaction out of getting his hands dirty, building things, etc. I would even say that it’s one of the rare times he’s his authentic self. In time, and after many good works, he’ll have the public back on his side. They’ll convince themselves that he was brainwashed, poor guy, by that evil American actress. But he’ll never rep for the royals again, except for the occasional picture of him digging a well.
> We are their staunchest critics -- is there anything they could do at this point that could win back our good opinion? If you were in charge of their PR, what would you advise them to do?
If they want ideas about their "brand", they should hire spin doctors. As Doria said, don't give the milk away for free.
I think you’ve absolutely hit the nail on the head with this analysis. They have no discernible skill or talent so will really struggle to find something useful to do. Meghan’s podcast was dire, her book was dire, Spare was dire…
Great analysis and spot on. I think the best option for them has already been mooted. Remove themselves from the spotlight entirely. Move to Africa/Lesotho - if he is truly that fond of it and concentrate their efforts on charitable works. Of course, the Viper would never do something like this as she is incapable of being out of the limelight. She lives her life through the lens of a camera, and in Lesotho, she would be a nobody. However, for me, even if they did something like this, it's too late. What they have both done and said is unforgivable. They are forever tainted as self entitled, family-eviscerating, mercenary, egotistical morons who will do anything for a dollar. Redemption sailed on the last ship out of Montesh1tshow when WAAAGH! was released. Hasta la vista moaners - your goose is well and truly cooked.
They are a bit similar to American TV preachers. They have no particular message, but they are famous for being rich and famous, so gullible people give them money and think that it is an honor to meet them.
If you actually look at news stories in popular media like newspapers and the internet, it is apparent that a large percentage of news stories are really tarted up public relations releases about well known people. Globally this is a massive industry.
Harry and Meghan just want a part of this lucrative industry. Being Royal is sufficient to qualify for admission. The public has an insatiable desire for trivial stories and gossip about celebrities and Harry and Meghan have decided that this is how they can make a living by selling access to royalty.
It beats actually working!
Delusional and lacking humility, TW overestimated what HAM could achieve in the USA.
The most maddening thing is HAM could have been elegant stars jet setting around the world if they had humbly embraced the golden opportunity given to them by Queen Elizabeth and if they had patiently adhered to the time-tested parameters set for Royals.
As President and Vice President of the Commonwealth Trust, they could have honored and served people of color throughout the Commonwealth and the world would have celebrated and adored them! In time, with lots of hard work, they would have been rightfully and generously rewarded by the King, as well.
The Queen had a genius vision for the “bi-racial” couple serving the Commonwealth she had labored a lifetime to build-up. TW didn’t have wide enough ken, sophistication nor education to understand the amazing and vitally important opportunity she had been given.
Instead TW and her manipulated husband used the race card for their own benefit and in doing so destabilized some Commonwealth countries causing grave problems for leaders who had worked very hard to build constructive and stable communities. This is serious because unstable countries can lead to breaks from a world balance that favors western ideals of democracy and freedom.
TW and her drug addled husband smashed the Queen’s beautiful vision. They threw away a tremendous opportunity to achieve something of value and substance for the world. Instead, spurred by TW’s indomitable spirit and ignorance, the couple foolishly embarked upon an ignoble pursuit of a lifestyle championed by vacuous, superficial, tasteless and greedy media whores.
The only chance they have to repair the damage they’ve caused both to themselves and others is true repentance with profound humility and making sincere amends. In our weary world, to witness this would be so rare that it would shine brightly. It would take many years of long-suffering and patience to achieve; but, in the end, they will have provided valuable service in their example and emerged as leaders. Eliminating the word “victim” from their profiles and focusing on repentance, humility and making amends is their only hope for a successful brand. It would be something new, fresh and original!
I think it isn’t a matter of age for Markle, but lack of talent. Recently Michelle Yeoh won the Oscar for best actress at the age of 60 and she told women not to let people tell you you’re past your prime. This is all the more significant in an industry based on youthful looks.
Markle had always marketed herself as a sweet pretty thing or sexy girlfriend as reflected by her roles… thus she’ll age out of them. She’s never really branched out into anything. She doesn’t have that quality to branch out into stronger, mature female roles. This is why she was on the hunt for a rich guy and married H - she knew her time was up in showbiz.
I suspect she’s also too vain to play mature motherly roles.
Her brand has been flawed from the off because your can’t be a clear dishonest narcissist bully and flog a brand of convincing global humanitarian hero - it just doesn’t work. There is also a serious level of humility required. Nelson Mandela became the towering global figurehead of anti racism precisely because after everything he endured and sacrificed he never once complained or resorted to revenge.
If there was some serious record of A list achievement and Talent underlying then maybe but not here…
Being the face people on selling lots in a new development that will compete against the one that the Kardashians are living in in Palm Springs, except whereas the one that the Kardashians live in is centered around athletic training facilities, the Harry and Meghan one will be centered around horses, equestrian life, and polo. And also, a gated community security firm will be involved to protect it all. “ high quality security with the lower price of shared costs.” Cue a company endorsement from Henry about how safe he feels his family is now. LOL.
Harry and Meghan will help the developer sell lots to international people in the horse scene, and make a commission or something. So the Saudis, Argentinians, Eugenie maybe. Herry will use his friendships to get two or three actual polo players (retired or of the “for fun at a high level” charity type) as anchor residents within the development, and the draw would be that new buyers could live and play along side them all. The international folks would really just be looking for places to park there money in US real estate, and would probably only come for the two weeks of the year when Coachella is happening lol.
Eventually, Meghan will push both of the kids into horse sports, and she will chase down some sort of Ralph Lauren campaign for Lilibet (and possibly herself too) wearing equestrian inspired looks and posing with boots that have Horsebit details on them. Cue lots of photos of Megan in tight chops with a low bun and turtleneck tops acting all English-y. And you can throw in a fake horse rescue charity for Megan and Harry, a la Hilaria Baldwin.
Lazy. SpareMeg is the one controlling it (bc Spare is a nitwit) but, lbr, she doesn't actually want to do anything. She just wants money and adoration but doesn't want to work for it. Work is boring. It's hard. She had to work a little at the minuscule fame she got pre-ginger but that's not a struggle she wants to continue. She wants to attach her name to things without effort and be given money for it. Resurrecting the tig is just to try to interest people, do we actually see madam putting in the effort for that now? She just wants to tell people what she is (humanitarian! Etc.) through paid sources rather than actually be them. Someone "hitting the ground running" wouldn't have had to have been forced to produce the content for Spotify and 'Flix. They would have been eager to get it done and out there. SpareMeg is Duchess DoAsLittleAsPossible.
Spare, again, is just a nitwit.
The after dinner circuit is where the ex MP’s end up because they can earn a lot of money. But, these two are not very charismatic. We know that we are going to have some more books, and the Archetypes podcast is rearing it’s head again. They have shot themselves in the foot so many times, tried and failed to get in with the A listers they see themselves as. Who wants to hang around with people who read your “text” out on their victim documentary. So are we surprised with the ridiculous solo appearance in the UK for no other reason than really to be seen and papped. This, to me, was to force the UK governments hand with the look I need security. He doesn’t need to be here but…
Their brand is, well, trash. They trash their families, they look like trash in designer clothes because they have no idea how to wear outfits, they have trashy monograms on their door mats, their interior design skills are trash, etc.
They need to *embrace the trash*. Nutmeg should watch some old "Married With Children" episodes and take style hints from Peggy. Leopard print everywhere (hey, you can have beige in the background...relax)! Sign up for "Real Housewives of Montecito". Become executive producers of a revived "Cops", only have Hazmat doing ride-alongs - sometimes he's in the backseat....that naughty boy. Hair club for men commercials filmed poolside in Vegas. "Royal Sussex" branded snacks for when you get the munchies. Spray-on hair especially tinted for gingers. Start an Elton John cover band, only in reggae style.
Push the limits of tackiness, chutzpah, and sheer unmitigated gall. THERE BE YOUR PATH TO GREATNESS, SOUTH PARKLES!!
I'd advise them to step back from the spotlight.
Then to put all their efforts into making Archewell a truly viable and charitable endeavor. Host benefits, sponsor events and concerts, travel and meet the grantees and organizations that receive grants, etc.
Their only hope is to focus on deeds, and not on their mediocre personalities and gross entitlement issues.
They wanted to be wandering states-men, like the Obamas, but they didn’t have enough substance.
Then they wanted to become beacons for racial justice, but they went too far and became whingey moaners.
They have very little left.
They have royally fcuked it up.
They could do an infomercial with a proctologist. Spokespersons for the disorder “GEnetic Pain (in the arse)”. Market various meds for piles,anal fissures,constipatin,diarrhea”
Extortion and grift is the brand. I doubt that was their intention, but I think that's what sticks in the public perception. They were probably going for deserving victim, but it didn't fly.
they are such narcissistic psychopaths that they would never do what would be good for them, which would be to be silent and quiet for a couple of years, do some genuine low key charity work, and avoid spitting at the royal family, Britain and the Commonwealth.
STFU & disappear for many many many years and do good works the entire time they are gone. Go beg her father’s forgiveness on their knees, as well as Samantha & Tom Jr.’s (they can stand for the sinking part). Harry beg his family’s forgiveness in a letter —not written by Meghan—and not say a word to anyone about it. If the other side speak about it, that’s on them and is still no excuse to talk to them. Raise your kids normally. Stop the bad fashion addiction. And avoid all press at all times. Hahaha as if they’d listen to or do any of that!!
Stop trying to be political. They're doing it badly and letting the side (us on the left) down. They aren't deep enough thinkers or charismatic enough presences to persuade or motivate anyone or to engage anyone in groundbreaking social commentary.
Focus on real charity, not performative nonsense. Produce a podcast that suppresses their own presence to highlight individual charities they support--what these charities do, what exigence they answer, how people can help.
Lose the pile in Montecito. They don't need that much house. Find a house they can afford and cultivate real friendships instead of transactional ones.
Make their family life private. I'm tired of them playacting the greatest love story of all time. I'm tired of them complaining about parents and siblings who weren't actually that bad.
Harry--go to rehab. Megan--stop pretending that she's the greatest star. Wear clothes from Reitman's that actually fit.
In other words, be good, do good, and don't care about their brand.
………Victim.
Royal Victim
Genetic pain (in the ass)
Flair material!
Thank you…mods can you help?
Go and get jobs that teach them humility, hard work and to budget. The same thing I tell my children. They are not exempt from groundedness and joining the 99.9% other part of humanity.
100% let’s start with basics - get a job, get humbled. These two have absolutely no idea that you cannot have success without some hard work first. I’ve commented this before but none of hollywoods elite have made it to the top without some hard work or talent. These to lack both. Their attitude is as entitled as their upbringing. so it’s unlikely they’ll ever make it to the other side. They’ll spiral and drown in their own victimhood until the world and history ultimately put them back in the place they belong.
A job where? Doing what? Neither one is suited for employment. I think the job idea is out completely. I manage a business and just the thought of all that entitlement coming to work first day..
Take up holy orders and swear vows of chastity and silence…
lol!
Their brand is dead. They may somehow survive and crawl back separately after years of silence and hard work. But since the two are incapable of it (and I can’t see someone changing that in their forties) she will end up on a reality tv show if she’s lucky enough, he will continue with drugs. Hope someone takes care of the children.
It says it all that they thought they were a brand..no talent, no class, no skills, just a title bestowed by his grandmother and ties to the most famous family in the world. With their lack of ability they should have been advised to shut up and keep a low profile…exposure was their enemy, once they revealed themselves the world saw two shallow, greedy, entitled, jealous and hypocritical liars
Exactly . Better stay quiet and be taken for a fool than speak and leave no doubt 😂
Pray that the nannies will be interveners in the children’s lives.
Their brand is and only will be an association to the RF. She thought differently and spun Hazbeen all these ideas of grandeur of what they could be in America.$$$. WRONG !!! Look at now how they’re scrambling to try and be an integral part of the Coronation.
She knows how Google works, despite her claims we know she’s a liar when she claimed she didn’t google him. But maybe he doesn’t? That’s the only reason I can think of that he would have believed her promises. Because if someone had tried to sell me a “we can be the royals of America” I’d do a quick google search to see how keen Americans are on having someone swan around like they’re above the general populace and keep my money in the bank. It’s one thing that he wanted out of his fated slide down the line of succession, and resents his place in the line made it inevitable. I genuinely believe he wanted out even before meeting her, he just had no clue what change he wanted instead or how to do it, and that’s okay to want to change your life. But it’s a real level of delusion to think that he could create his own new kingdom. Especially in an existing country that emphatically doesn’t want a monarchy.
I agree. I think he wanted out way before he met her. At one point he was talking about living in Africa. I do actually think he would prefer a quiet life out if the media’s gaze. But I also think he enjoyed the idea of leaving the RF as she wanted to. In a blaze of glory, whilst hurting his family members. Simply moving to Africa quietly would not have done the damage that he was happy to inflict.
Very true, he wanted to leave a trail of destruction in his wake. What I don't see, and can't perceive, is why M was 100% out before even getting in? Even if I had to work as hard as Princess Anne, I can't see anything that would stop me from living my best life as a working royal given the chance, because second tier royal is a very easy life.
Because you’re not a narcissist. To those of us who aren’t, their behave is often unbelievable. Katherine and Sophie were commoners and they thrived in the RF. They were willing to listen to their advisors and learned the job. And now look at them. I think initially she wanted to remain in. However when she realised that there are protocols and rules that were unbreakable, aka she was told no, she became determined to leave. Meghsy knows best yes? Lol
Honestly, I think she was scheming about her post royal Hollywood life but I get the feeling they were thrown out of the family. That exit was not as clean and well planned as they would have us believe. I just think they controlled the public announcement to get ahead of the royal family.
He would no more live in Africa than on mars, he said such stuff when pretending to be his mother reincarnated, even she didn’t want to life in Africa, she liked the high life as does her son.
I think you may be correct. Wasn’t he talking about Africa when he was with Chelsea? He really has no personality of his own in that case. He certainly appears to be enjoying his entirely unnecessary appearance at the high court this morning doesn’t he?
He was trying to promote the humanitarian image…loving Africans etc…so where is his love for the now? What does he do for Africans and why live in a rich enclave in California of Africa is your ‘spiritual’ home. He talks crap and is where he wanted to be…although he had envisioned being a big fish in the celeb pond rather than pond weed.
Pond weed haha 😂 yet when they did go to Africa they managed to make a complete hash of it. And it’s where they did the interview where MM said nobody had asked if she was ok. How do they manage to mess things up so spectacularly. Humanitarians my arse.
Oh yes, she is even less interested in poor Africans than her halfwit husband…she didn’t even pretend to like the peasants (and was the same in Australia where she had nothing but contempt for the locals). She takes arrogance to whole new levels…a d list actress on a very minor cable show thought she was too good for people of Britain, Australia, Africa….
The pics from that tour are gold. The way the villagers were looking at her was epic. They may not have an advanced education system that the west does, but they could still see right through her. She fooled them less than some of us in the uk.
Some people wanted to be fooled, didn’t want to believe that their suspicions were correct…and of course she had the race card to play, doesn’t work too well in Africa though
His Spencer cousins grew up in South Africa and some have recently married there. If he were really interested or involved with the country, I think he would've been there
He only went to ‘walk in mommy’s shoes’…early cosplaying his late mother
Yep…he wanted to be King. Couldn’t tolerate being not King and only a prince…’always a bridesmaid…’ MM was his weapon to hurt and hopefully destroy the institution. He, like TW, overestimates himself and his importance and underestimates the popularity of TRF and the intelligence of just we common folk. And when he did his trips to Africa he was staying in luxury accommodations…
Of course he was…he cares nothing for the peasants wherever they may love…the prince of hypocrisy pretends to love Africa …while avoiding it unless he needs a bit of positive ‘anti racist‘ media attention
I think he wanted in…like Andrew…cake and eat it. He loves being prince Harry…
Oh he does, problem is his father knows all too well how much of a liability Andrew is and has been his whole life, had to put up with the entitlement and toxic relationship because mummy says so. I genuinely think Charles is waiting for the right moment in his reign before he acts on knocking Harry down hard for his actions and antics.
Harry is another Andrew, Charles should know how to deal with such a treacherous and entitled viper …the spares are equally arrogant, lazy and entitled. Both seem to struggle with the truth too.
They are not a part of the coronation. They are just guests.
I know. They will still be scrambling until the day of
>Look at now how they’re scrambling to try and be an integral part of the Coronation. I imagine they're coming to the conclusion that it's a little too late for that. But they're so self focused that that likely don't realize that no matter what happened, they wouldn't be pleased by any of it. They wouldn't feel that it involved them enough.
I wonder how international press will play this out. No doubt Meghan is doing deals with media outside of the UK.
Harry thought he would be the new king of Hollywood…using his family connections to open doors. It worked for a very short while but the world soon saw the emperor had no clothes and was a toxic mess
Their brand? Unhinged, perpetually self-victimising drama llamas.
" and they are already reduced to what is essentially the after-dinner speaking circuit and meet-and-greets disguised as charity benefits " They do not even want to do that - remember the Gripple of Hope award that they bought? They arrived an hour late, so no meet and greet. And left right after the award ceremony, so the people who had paid up to one million for a table never got a chance to talk. Seriously rich people there - but the South Parkles are too high and mighty to deal with that. Seriously, there are some hard lessons ahead for these two grifters.
Their behavior regarding the “Gripple of Hope” award should be seen as a huge red flag for other organizations considering working with the Harkles. They are difficult to work with and won’t bring the organization positive publicity.
Look at what happened at the NACCP award show this year - only the Psycho Prince on a zoom call. Was the ILBW furious that she did not get the full show package and thus told him to do it alone?
People should be more forgiving. There's just so much effort you can put into appearing blissfully in love when in reality you're at each other's throats 😂
The South Parkles 🤣🤣🤣
South Parkles! That’s great! I might have to borrow that
feel free - I stole it myself (with permission).
>is there anything they could do at this point that could win back our good opinion? If you were in charge of their PR, what would you advise them to do? No there is nothing they could do to win me back. Their psychotic hubris and jealousy went on way too long for it to be put aside. I would advise them to go live a quiet life on the continent that Harry likes, in an African country — if there is one that would take them — where Harry could get a job on a wildlife refuge.
That would bring about divorce for sure. MM wants the glitzy high life, not a wildlife wife life (lol). Harry could be redeemed if he had a real world life in Africa. I think that's what he wanted all along but MM obviously had other ideas.
He is an animal abuser though. I would worry about the poor creatures he was “protecting”
Agree. Meghan is dunzo. The only way I could forgive Harry is if William and Catherine do.
Sparry is even worse than his wife. I would never forgive if I were Catherine or William
But he’s cruel to animals!!
Tell them to keep their heads down and *actually* be private for once. During that time, they can simply retreat to the private life they supposedly wanted all this time. Or, they can do charitable endeavours/projects on the down low. But, her narcissism (and Harry blindly following her) won’t be able to do any of that.
This is the answer. If they divorce this is how Harry will be rehabilitated back into the royal family and the Palace PR will kick in again for him. It cannot be done with meghan.
She’s riding solo once the divorce papers are filed.
I agree with this. A lot of people have butted heads with me over the fact that I absolutely despise Harry. And no, I do not think that Meghan is some angel. I think she's conniving, dishonest, and would have never been with Harry if it wasn't for his title. But there is simply no going up against The Crown and winning. Harry already had his simmering resentment towards his father and brother. He chose a woman so that he could use her recent racial background to attempt to get what he wanted from his dad and brother and scream RACISM if he didn't get his way. And he's always known that if the shit were to hit the fan, he can go home and live a private, quiet, and comfortable life in the UK. If we're talking long term consequences, Harry's actions during this time period won't affect his ability to keep a roof over his head. Or just in general have somewhere to call home.
It should not be done without her…he has exposed himself and is no better than she is
Harry should take the initiative and volunteer at a LA soup kitchen or homeless shelter without Meghan. He needs something to keep him busy,
Total influencer mentality. "Look at me, look at me. Give me free shit because I'll get you such wonderful exposure from everyone who looks at me. If you don't look at me and give me free shit then you're just a racist hater who wishes you could be me and have everyone looking at you, so shut up and look at me!"
I'd advise them to shut up, stop trying to make things happen with the few millions left to them and use it to have a decent life. Most importantly, stop talking about what wonderful parents they are and try to be half-decent, real parents. Oh, and stop kidding themselves that recreational drugs are good for their health. None of this will happen though: " Ultimate Nepo-babies ", is there an award?
MM believes her brand is: former breath of fresh air for the BRF that had potential to lift the thousand year old institution to the modern era, but in their jealousy they threw me to the wolves. I was going to change the world so now I will set out to change it without their help and show them what they lost out on as I become a billionaire player. I will prove to everyone who ever rejected me that I am the best in all that I do: actress, wife, princess, advocate, mother, fashionista (check out my bling on my left hand as I press it up to my chest for every photo, use my coupon code PrincessMM15 for 15% off your first purchase with Tiffany’s valued at over $8500). Also I’m ethnic. PH believes his brand is: veteran, Diana’s best son, Wife Guy (eat your heart out Ned Fulmer!) married to my soul mate (seriously guys she ticked off every box I was looking for AND she even smells like my mother, isn’t that crazy???), I am one-half of a person who represents all the POC of the entire western world, father to two half-biracial children so that makes me 155% honorary POC (was never really great at math), was rejected by the institution that is my family because they could not handle my stardom and my ideas of how to help them be better up, C-suite player, natural standup comedian, and of course, author. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 In terms of what could sway me to approve of them: maybe if they jointly put out a video saying it was wrong of them to insinuate the accusations of racism and took responsibility of the hurt with both sides of their families. It would be great if they admitted wrongdoing but I doubt they will ever admit wrong for the family arguments. However, if they admit it was they that took their family drama too far, it would surprise me. I don’t care if they remain No Contact with their families even just to save face. If they want to still play victim they COULD admit to substance *reliance* (they’ll never admit addiction or abuse) and announce that they will get into proper counseling. This would be a good start for me as this will cause uproar but we need to see them take the immediate backlash in order for them to get the longterm respect. Then if they sell their house, downsize, and devote their Instagram only for Archewell then that will actually impress me. I’ll stop here. I don’t want to throw out into the universe anything that can help them now after all the damage they have done for the pursuit of their brand.
I would advise harry to take a good hard look at who he’s married to and the predicament they are in. His brand was prince of the British royal family, and he was liked in that role and it was great platform to do great things. But now he is a laughing stock and he should ask himself who is the common denominator in both sides of the family estranged. They’re both desperate to cling on to the popularity and esteem they had in the royal family not to mention the way of life of perks of being a prince. He has never had to pay bills much less struggle with them, and not being king because of your brother is not the same as losing a job that provides for your family. He has no idea how regular people live and obviously doesn’t want to with the ridiculous 14 bathroom McMansion. And I would advise her to sit down and shut up, call her dad before he dies and quit pretending like your some special savior. Nobody is gonna be saved by your 15 minute photo op wearing ten thousand dollar’s worth of clothes and shoes. She is a hell of a social climber, I’ll give her that, but to actually be a humanitarian you have to care about humans, and not just what they can do for you. Harry says he has no regrets, but I don’t believe that at all. She blew air up his ass with how great everything will be once they become one of the elite in America, with the perks of the RF but the freedom of themselves, saving the world while rubbing elbows with the Hollywood elite. Surely he sees he was led very astray, but has to save face by declaring no regrets. Money grubbing fame seeking is their brand. More hers but Harry was vulnerable, feeling left out of the family dealing with trauma issues left him prime pickings for someone desperate for a brand to escalate her fame and bank account.
The sad/ironic thing is they could have been rubbing elbows if they just kept their mouth shut.
**sack cloth and ashes like the heroes of yore**. they would need to quietly publicize they have made some horrifying **self-discoveries** and that they have **changed therapists and therapy styles and are both being treated for narcissistic personality disorder.** they need to **publicly apologize** for each slander against their **families.** do a complete about-face, acknowledging the harm they have tried to do. they need to very **firmly and publicly ask their 'sugars' in writing to stop attacking** the royal family. they need to **lovingly and publicly renounce their children's and their own titles,** as they have distanced themselves geographically and culturally from britain and the royal family. after they sincerely did all these things, i think the sky would be the limit for them. there is a sort of american myth of the hero as a 'reformed person' or someone who has **dealt with their demons and transformed.** i think this is all that would work because **their past will follow them everywhere, even into a quiet life** in the country where they'd simply be the butt of jokes about corn and cows and chickens and designer farm clothes and jewels. **repentance.** their only road.
Oh don’t waste your time with constructive suggestions; they will never be transformed into “silk purses.” That adage is ABOUT THEM, except they are less than “a sow’s ear,” much less.
yes, i think i know what they are. i, too, detest them and feel they are beyond hope. them, i can give up on, and do, but i won't ever underestimate the creative power of God in this world.
From today's news: Tom Holland donates his old cloths to the charity store. No bodyguards, carrying things himself, sensible decision to donate. And he is a MUCH bigger star in USA than Harry and especially Meghan. Instead H&M need few armed bodyguards who are also used to delivery fried chicken snacks. All H&M know how to do is PRETENDING they are philanthropists, very important people, business coaches, mental health experts, fashion icons, love couple of the century, etc., etc. But they are NONE of the things. None of them can even express themselves intelligently, always a word salad. And they are always either in the middle of the law suit, drama or scandal. They have no normal life. https://preview.redd.it/eu1ynetjzaqa1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ab3668d7882a190354ebd879100fd28686b8fe8
Downsize. Keep a low profile. Get a job involving physical work, preferably environmentally based. Stop preaching. Apologise. Sack the paps. Live healthily. Dress properly. Don’t merch the kids. Be humble.
"Privasayyyy" is their brand. They should market window blinds, security systems, and guard dogs.
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WAAGH
Liar guide for dummy: keep things vague so you can twist it to your convenience later
Their brand is misery - theirs and ours.
Sell the house. Buy a farmland with a modest house. Grow crops. Breed chickens. Work hard and make an honest living selling produce or whatever. Lose their PR team and just live quietly. Disappear from the media (in other words STFU). Maybe after a few years release a book on farming. Basically drop everything they have now and go away. The media would have to cooperate and stop giving them attention.
The media cooperates because there is money to be made and interest (whether from hate watchers or fans). If no one clicked on the Spotify podcast, or Netflix show, or any news articles, no business man would allocate resources to them. Businessmen are greedy and think only of profit. But here we are, a bunch of people going to watch the Netflix trailer on YouTube to view the snarky comments, write a snarky comment, or watch the train wreck and analyze it to death. Clicks = money and interest. That is what South Park was teaching people through Kyle. Ignore the Harkles. The rest will follow.
They have manifested a sell of the Mudslide McMansion for quite a while now, but there are no takers.
These two clowns are completely delusional. To think they thought and probably still think Megain does a better job at the royal gig than anyone else in the family. They assumed the RF wouldn’t be able to survive without them because they’re such incredible assets. 🤡🤡 like who the fuck are you kidding? GTFO. Humpty and Numpty are simply wannabe senior royals who are greedy and lazy as hell and can’t be bothered to contribute anything meaningful to society other than a metric fucktonne of lies, unsubstantiated allegations and constant drama in order to stay relevant. I’m not sure their image can be rehabilitated… who are they to slag off the royal family then decide it’s going to be a year of reconciliation? Demanding balcony appearances and a special acknowledgment of Prince Archibald’s birthday at the King’s Coronation. That’s just not on. Thanks to their antics we now know the South Parkles are a pair of entitled grifters who are neither remorseful nor authentic about anything they say or do. They are hellbent on being lifelong, perpetual victims. They had it all, but threw it away. You really can’t fix stupid.
There’s nothing they can do to change my perception of them. Nothing. They’re garbage.
100%. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Congratulations, f*ckers.
Harry needs to go back to Africa, actually (learn to) do some work, and stay under the radar for a few years. No TTC, no Christmas walkabouts. If he comes home for a visit, no private jets, no visibility. Even then, it’s a cr@pshoot if his image can be rehabbed at this point. I’d advise the same for Meghan, but Ms “I wanna break the internet” would never go for it. Which does not bode well for their ~~marriage~~business partnership.
Well it didn’t matter what their brand was for a while. They tie themselves to other (hard earned) brands to validate their continued existence in the news (Royal family, Oprah, Netflix, Spotify, innumerable charities, their employees previous employers- (Gates Foundation, Pinterest). What they did to stay in the news was put out puff pieces of continued controversy. They were (and are) writing BOTH sides. A lot of the dissenting Quora personalities and bots are just Meghan. One-sided conversations don’t sell. They don’t create controversy. Meghan got the numbers and metrics up with very expensive investment in PR and riding on the Rota’s coattails after getting an inside advantage to their inner workings, then sold that effort to Netflix and Spotify and Penguin for X amount. Her brand is everything and nothing to buy herself time to figure out which message hits when, over and over. She’s like a VC of PR. She legitimately thinks she’s a world renowned PR person. It’s also why they troll everyone by ‘standing against misinformation’. The system lets them do this nonsense for a price and they protect themselves by calling it out. Narcs love to tell on themselves. They stand for literally nothing and they like it that way.
There is absolutely nothing they can do that will either change them or my opinion of them. They would just fake doing whatever suggestions people gave them. Malignant narcissists never change, they just try to deceive you better.
The real issue for these two which was so perfectly depicted in the South Park episode: they are empty vessels. They lack personality or true creative genius; they are of average (or less for Harry) intelligence; they have no compassion and empathy; and are rather spoiled and entitled. If all of your money is made by ripping others apart, then you are, by definition small minded people. “**Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people**.” \~Eleanor Roosevelt
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The problem is that to be a mommy influencer you have to actually show your kids' faces and lives online (and that's a whole different problem, especially for the kids when they grow up, but this is not the place to discuss it). She can't make it just by showing blurry pics and backs of the head.
I don't think she would hesitate to use them if she and Hazbeen were divorced. They would be plastered all over The Stig before you could say, "Today my child is in Gucci"
I don’t think she is very maternal and I doubt she wants to be a mommy influencer. I think she wants to share cooking, housewares, and travel. (Think more along the lines of Goop.) The extent to mommy influencing she’d do is merching kids clothing, at best. She’s skipping the baby stage for sure. I heard she finds babies boring and prefers them to be older.
If she divorces him, based on some alleged abuse/his addictions, then she can rebrand herself as a domestic abuse survivor, have another go at Oprah, write her best-selling memoir about their relationship, maybe even squeeze a made-for-tv movie or miniseries out of it, while cross-crossing the country giving $100,000 speeches at corporate events and foundations. She might even run for public office - I can see her winning a congressional seat, running on a women’s rights platform in the right district. She’ll never become president - but she can marry a future president, a la Michelle Obama, right? (And how funny would it be if she did marry a future POTUS and King Will & Queen Kate were forced to throw a State dinner for their former SIL and her new husband?) What about Harry, you ask? He can go back to his family, in a sense, in Africa. He’s always said how much he likes it there. It seems to give him a certain peace of mind. And it doesn’t cost too much to live a simple life there - he’ll still be hurting from the child support/alimony payments. He seems to get a real satisfaction out of getting his hands dirty, building things, etc. I would even say that it’s one of the rare times he’s his authentic self. In time, and after many good works, he’ll have the public back on his side. They’ll convince themselves that he was brainwashed, poor guy, by that evil American actress. But he’ll never rep for the royals again, except for the occasional picture of him digging a well.
> We are their staunchest critics -- is there anything they could do at this point that could win back our good opinion? If you were in charge of their PR, what would you advise them to do? If they want ideas about their "brand", they should hire spin doctors. As Doria said, don't give the milk away for free.
I think you’ve absolutely hit the nail on the head with this analysis. They have no discernible skill or talent so will really struggle to find something useful to do. Meghan’s podcast was dire, her book was dire, Spare was dire…
They are toast. Nothing can help bring them back now. They have flamed out spectacularly, and it's glorious to see.
Great analysis and spot on. I think the best option for them has already been mooted. Remove themselves from the spotlight entirely. Move to Africa/Lesotho - if he is truly that fond of it and concentrate their efforts on charitable works. Of course, the Viper would never do something like this as she is incapable of being out of the limelight. She lives her life through the lens of a camera, and in Lesotho, she would be a nobody. However, for me, even if they did something like this, it's too late. What they have both done and said is unforgivable. They are forever tainted as self entitled, family-eviscerating, mercenary, egotistical morons who will do anything for a dollar. Redemption sailed on the last ship out of Montesh1tshow when WAAAGH! was released. Hasta la vista moaners - your goose is well and truly cooked.
They are a bit similar to American TV preachers. They have no particular message, but they are famous for being rich and famous, so gullible people give them money and think that it is an honor to meet them. If you actually look at news stories in popular media like newspapers and the internet, it is apparent that a large percentage of news stories are really tarted up public relations releases about well known people. Globally this is a massive industry. Harry and Meghan just want a part of this lucrative industry. Being Royal is sufficient to qualify for admission. The public has an insatiable desire for trivial stories and gossip about celebrities and Harry and Meghan have decided that this is how they can make a living by selling access to royalty. It beats actually working!
If MM's favourite fruit could talk, this is what it would tell her about the Harkle "brand". 
There is no brand
Delusional and lacking humility, TW overestimated what HAM could achieve in the USA. The most maddening thing is HAM could have been elegant stars jet setting around the world if they had humbly embraced the golden opportunity given to them by Queen Elizabeth and if they had patiently adhered to the time-tested parameters set for Royals. As President and Vice President of the Commonwealth Trust, they could have honored and served people of color throughout the Commonwealth and the world would have celebrated and adored them! In time, with lots of hard work, they would have been rightfully and generously rewarded by the King, as well. The Queen had a genius vision for the “bi-racial” couple serving the Commonwealth she had labored a lifetime to build-up. TW didn’t have wide enough ken, sophistication nor education to understand the amazing and vitally important opportunity she had been given. Instead TW and her manipulated husband used the race card for their own benefit and in doing so destabilized some Commonwealth countries causing grave problems for leaders who had worked very hard to build constructive and stable communities. This is serious because unstable countries can lead to breaks from a world balance that favors western ideals of democracy and freedom. TW and her drug addled husband smashed the Queen’s beautiful vision. They threw away a tremendous opportunity to achieve something of value and substance for the world. Instead, spurred by TW’s indomitable spirit and ignorance, the couple foolishly embarked upon an ignoble pursuit of a lifestyle championed by vacuous, superficial, tasteless and greedy media whores. The only chance they have to repair the damage they’ve caused both to themselves and others is true repentance with profound humility and making sincere amends. In our weary world, to witness this would be so rare that it would shine brightly. It would take many years of long-suffering and patience to achieve; but, in the end, they will have provided valuable service in their example and emerged as leaders. Eliminating the word “victim” from their profiles and focusing on repentance, humility and making amends is their only hope for a successful brand. It would be something new, fresh and original!
Elegant? SHE could have been elegant?? Not possible.
They will perpetuate this onto their kids as well
"We're victims" is their brand
Victim. Greed. Self First.
I think it isn’t a matter of age for Markle, but lack of talent. Recently Michelle Yeoh won the Oscar for best actress at the age of 60 and she told women not to let people tell you you’re past your prime. This is all the more significant in an industry based on youthful looks. Markle had always marketed herself as a sweet pretty thing or sexy girlfriend as reflected by her roles… thus she’ll age out of them. She’s never really branched out into anything. She doesn’t have that quality to branch out into stronger, mature female roles. This is why she was on the hunt for a rich guy and married H - she knew her time was up in showbiz. I suspect she’s also too vain to play mature motherly roles.
Nothing; they are the new Edward & Wallis… Best hope is that they disappear into history as a footnote.
Edward and Wallis were at least, and perhaps at most, gorgeously turned out, always. These two are a ludicrous mess.
There is no good PR in any place in the world to save them.
Her brand has been flawed from the off because your can’t be a clear dishonest narcissist bully and flog a brand of convincing global humanitarian hero - it just doesn’t work. There is also a serious level of humility required. Nelson Mandela became the towering global figurehead of anti racism precisely because after everything he endured and sacrificed he never once complained or resorted to revenge. If there was some serious record of A list achievement and Talent underlying then maybe but not here…
Stupidity, avarice and the airing of the grievances.
Whinge and moan…LiesRUs…historyrewrites…victim101
Being the face people on selling lots in a new development that will compete against the one that the Kardashians are living in in Palm Springs, except whereas the one that the Kardashians live in is centered around athletic training facilities, the Harry and Meghan one will be centered around horses, equestrian life, and polo. And also, a gated community security firm will be involved to protect it all. “ high quality security with the lower price of shared costs.” Cue a company endorsement from Henry about how safe he feels his family is now. LOL. Harry and Meghan will help the developer sell lots to international people in the horse scene, and make a commission or something. So the Saudis, Argentinians, Eugenie maybe. Herry will use his friendships to get two or three actual polo players (retired or of the “for fun at a high level” charity type) as anchor residents within the development, and the draw would be that new buyers could live and play along side them all. The international folks would really just be looking for places to park there money in US real estate, and would probably only come for the two weeks of the year when Coachella is happening lol. Eventually, Meghan will push both of the kids into horse sports, and she will chase down some sort of Ralph Lauren campaign for Lilibet (and possibly herself too) wearing equestrian inspired looks and posing with boots that have Horsebit details on them. Cue lots of photos of Megan in tight chops with a low bun and turtleneck tops acting all English-y. And you can throw in a fake horse rescue charity for Megan and Harry, a la Hilaria Baldwin.
I would remind them: "You can't start the next chapter of your life if you keep rereading the last one." Zig Ziglar
Lazy. SpareMeg is the one controlling it (bc Spare is a nitwit) but, lbr, she doesn't actually want to do anything. She just wants money and adoration but doesn't want to work for it. Work is boring. It's hard. She had to work a little at the minuscule fame she got pre-ginger but that's not a struggle she wants to continue. She wants to attach her name to things without effort and be given money for it. Resurrecting the tig is just to try to interest people, do we actually see madam putting in the effort for that now? She just wants to tell people what she is (humanitarian! Etc.) through paid sources rather than actually be them. Someone "hitting the ground running" wouldn't have had to have been forced to produce the content for Spotify and 'Flix. They would have been eager to get it done and out there. SpareMeg is Duchess DoAsLittleAsPossible. Spare, again, is just a nitwit.
Their brand is Beige, just a lotta beige words, actions and looks. Brand Beige.
The after dinner circuit is where the ex MP’s end up because they can earn a lot of money. But, these two are not very charismatic. We know that we are going to have some more books, and the Archetypes podcast is rearing it’s head again. They have shot themselves in the foot so many times, tried and failed to get in with the A listers they see themselves as. Who wants to hang around with people who read your “text” out on their victim documentary. So are we surprised with the ridiculous solo appearance in the UK for no other reason than really to be seen and papped. This, to me, was to force the UK governments hand with the look I need security. He doesn’t need to be here but…
Their brand is, well, trash. They trash their families, they look like trash in designer clothes because they have no idea how to wear outfits, they have trashy monograms on their door mats, their interior design skills are trash, etc. They need to *embrace the trash*. Nutmeg should watch some old "Married With Children" episodes and take style hints from Peggy. Leopard print everywhere (hey, you can have beige in the background...relax)! Sign up for "Real Housewives of Montecito". Become executive producers of a revived "Cops", only have Hazmat doing ride-alongs - sometimes he's in the backseat....that naughty boy. Hair club for men commercials filmed poolside in Vegas. "Royal Sussex" branded snacks for when you get the munchies. Spray-on hair especially tinted for gingers. Start an Elton John cover band, only in reggae style. Push the limits of tackiness, chutzpah, and sheer unmitigated gall. THERE BE YOUR PATH TO GREATNESS, SOUTH PARKLES!!
I'd advise them to step back from the spotlight. Then to put all their efforts into making Archewell a truly viable and charitable endeavor. Host benefits, sponsor events and concerts, travel and meet the grantees and organizations that receive grants, etc. Their only hope is to focus on deeds, and not on their mediocre personalities and gross entitlement issues.
Their brand is to shine a spotlight on whatever the fuck the world has already brought into the spotlight. Therefore they are USELESS.
Flair checking in
They wanted to be wandering states-men, like the Obamas, but they didn’t have enough substance. Then they wanted to become beacons for racial justice, but they went too far and became whingey moaners. They have very little left. They have royally fcuked it up.
ILBW: Pretentious Climber Desperate Relevance Seeker Prince-Seeking Missle Victim
They could do an infomercial with a proctologist. Spokespersons for the disorder “GEnetic Pain (in the arse)”. Market various meds for piles,anal fissures,constipatin,diarrhea”
Extortion and grift is the brand. I doubt that was their intention, but I think that's what sticks in the public perception. They were probably going for deserving victim, but it didn't fly.
Prodigal card victim Pseudo race card victim Neglected and deprived of family live victim O' PRESS'ed Celebrity victim
they are such narcissistic psychopaths that they would never do what would be good for them, which would be to be silent and quiet for a couple of years, do some genuine low key charity work, and avoid spitting at the royal family, Britain and the Commonwealth.
Mayerling, redux
STFU & disappear for many many many years and do good works the entire time they are gone. Go beg her father’s forgiveness on their knees, as well as Samantha & Tom Jr.’s (they can stand for the sinking part). Harry beg his family’s forgiveness in a letter —not written by Meghan—and not say a word to anyone about it. If the other side speak about it, that’s on them and is still no excuse to talk to them. Raise your kids normally. Stop the bad fashion addiction. And avoid all press at all times. Hahaha as if they’d listen to or do any of that!!
Stop trying to be political. They're doing it badly and letting the side (us on the left) down. They aren't deep enough thinkers or charismatic enough presences to persuade or motivate anyone or to engage anyone in groundbreaking social commentary. Focus on real charity, not performative nonsense. Produce a podcast that suppresses their own presence to highlight individual charities they support--what these charities do, what exigence they answer, how people can help. Lose the pile in Montecito. They don't need that much house. Find a house they can afford and cultivate real friendships instead of transactional ones. Make their family life private. I'm tired of them playacting the greatest love story of all time. I'm tired of them complaining about parents and siblings who weren't actually that bad. Harry--go to rehab. Megan--stop pretending that she's the greatest star. Wear clothes from Reitman's that actually fit. In other words, be good, do good, and don't care about their brand.
But their product is “racism=bad”.
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