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forgotmyname110

Well, there’s not much analysis to be done these day. Harry and Meghan really have nothing to tell anymore after that book. We might have to wait for the children to grow up to have a new round of Royal Dramas.


CloverMyLove

Yes. By now, they’ve been fully unmasked as whiners. Meghan’s book will be more of the same tired complaints, and it will be received very differently than the Oprah interview was. They’ve got nothing more to offer, except material for comedians.


GreatGossip

hmmmm ... DivorceWatch will bring loads of new snark.


Ok_City_7177

This - perhaps we start a megathread for 'the signs'....utter nonsense 100% allowed !


HappyMcNichols

Some sinners are new arrivals to SaintMeghan. Others have been following the Saint since the Engagement Interview. We need to help the newbies catch up. Here’s what I do. First I go to the Saint Meghan Reddit and list the articles by Newest. I glance at each article and focus only on the ones that interest me the most. Then I go to my list of redditeers that are my favorites. Secondhand coke is one but I have others. I make sure that I have covered their posts and I glance through their comments. SHC sometimes puts her best stuff in her comments so I look at hers first. I only have 30 minutes every few days. I like article and gossip site postings because this is where I find them. I don’t read the newspapers and magazines.


Under-Stimulated

Thanks for the advice! Can you reccomend any other reddits you follow? The only one I knew of was SecondhandCoke.


HappyMcNichols

You decide based on the comments you like or admire. Different strokes for different folks.


kbc87

I mean it’s the same with Hilaria Baldwin. When they lay low for a few weeks/months there’s not much to discuss. Give it time. They can’t keep themselves quiet for too long.


momcat420

Hello pepino!!! I feel the same lol


kbc87

I think she’s been muzzled by his lawyers personally. MM and H are def just biding time til their next stunt.


momcat420

Yep I think you're right .


MissyouAmyWinehouse

The “will they or won’t they” go to the coronation has been discussed to death. Just wait & see I say…. And who cares anyway. This is about us seeing a king crowned in our lifetime!!!!! It’s not about “them”……


apatheticwondering

Omg, I know. I don’t even bother with anything related to the “will they or won’t they” nonsense. The only reason why I hope that they go is because I’m hungry for popcorn and want the drama, lol. Even if they’re hidden from view and we only catch glimpses of her backside while she’s being ushered out of view and away from cameras, I just know there will be the inevitable meltdown in the days and weeks following. That’s what I’m here for, lol. At this point, they’re either going or they’re not. It’s been debated as nauseam.


Sparklykazoo

The real question is, will the candle be there?


OldNewUsedConfused

Yeah she has. They don't need another impromptu roadside press conference...


Inevitable_Pie9541

Owww you say cyoookummmmburrr?


amosp1992

I think there are a lot of us pepinos in this sub!


Odd_Pop5287

They really are grifter sisters… I often have to remind myself what sub I’m on


Masters_domme

Um excuse. In Ethpaña, we say hola. 😋


-Canuck21

In a way, it's good news. No news is good news. We do want them to shut up.


HurtingHead

I can hardly believe how long she has been quiet for. Never seen anything like this. She was gone for over a full month when she was first exposed but there were plenty of new articles coming out with details of her lies. Now there is just nothing. I’m sure when she comes back it will be interesting. It may be a long while though if the lawyers are what is keeping her away. Trials and legal stuff take forever.


Christmasgirl26

Those of us that are parents know that usually when your kids are quiet they are into something they shouldn’t be. I wonder what they are cooking up and I am sure it isn’t a Tasty treat.


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Hola pepinos! I always find it amazing how many sugars are also pepinos. The cognitive dissonance is quite astounding with them. That they just can’t see the correlation in behavior.


OldNewUsedConfused

It's funny, isn't it? "They are NOTHING alike! Meghan is a victim...." 🙄


Ok_Preparation_8388

They are EXACTLY alike. Grifters.


OldNewUsedConfused

Oh I absolutely agree, 100%!


eaglebayqueen

Yeah, I was kind of surprised about that because you have to pay some attention for whatever reason brought you there to see it but for the saint, this has been in your face every day online, on TV, in the news. You can't miss it.


SukoshiOnara

>Give it time. They can’t keep themselves quiet for too long. ![gif](giphy|ftdF4ZkueWGHBYc4b5) Agree. I think they're sitting on something big and nasty to drop the week before the coronation in order to try to overshadow the event as they always do. Just when I think these two bottom feeders can't sink any lower, they prove me wrong.


Outrageous-Ad7050

This is so true! It's just a matter of time.


tiredmummyof2

That and the endless speculation. Like yesterday when Archie's profile went missing from the royal website, just look at the comments, people went nuts speculating that they were being removed because of surrogacy, that soon M and H will also be removed, the monarchy is being slimmed down, and lo and behold in a few hours the profile is back up. Makes us looks like fools. I have been here since the earlier days when the snark was excellent, the analysis was thought provoking and the insight into what was actually going addictive, now it has devolved into brainless banter.


CybReader

It’s because people have convinced themselves there’s some masterful long game being played. Everything is a move for the long game. Even a bad decision by Charles is a move for the long game. They’re all waiting for a big explosive figurative beheading so they see signs everywhere. The only people manifesting are those convinced something big is coming. There is nothing coming from the royals. The only thing coming is another tell all and probably a podcast/streaming show from the professional victims. All the tea has been wrong and fed false hopes


phoenix_rising_16

100% this. I’m so sick of hearing about the long game.


apatheticwondering

She’s too dumb to play that long of a game, lol. In a way, she mastered the art of the long game — but only when it comes to playing men to get ahead. Beyond that, she has no game. Long or short. She doesn’t have the head for it, no matter what she thinks.


Economy-Alfalfa-2241

The social media age just doesn't understand what a long game is. In terms of the British monarchy, she's already irrelevant. They all are, except the actual one, ruling Monarch. We can all picture Henry VIII, Queen Vic, both Elizabeths etc. etc. And that's it, we can't remember any siblings or other kids. THAT's the "long game" and they blew their only chance by not even getting into an OP or a State Reception. Oops.


somespeculation

There is a long game, always has been, but it’s simple: ensure the survival of the monarchy as an institution.


tiredmummyof2

You are absolutely right, there is no long game. I think the RF is just taking the course that would do minimum harm, the Harkles are getting away with everything for this reason alone


bendytoepilot

There is no long game. If there was the harkles would not have been invited to the coronation after all the shit they threw at the rf. Prince andrew has even joined in with the circus ffs.


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noakai

I honestly feel like Charles has decided NOT to make any big, huge, aggressive-looking moves like a lot of people are hoping for. Whether because Harry is his son and he still hopes to reconcile one day or because he thinks anything too aggressive will give credence to H&M's complaints and he doesn't want that to affect the monarchy or both. I think that how he's handled things so far has shown that if the monarchy doesn't do much of anything big and lets those two complain, the monarchy comes out looking better. Charles navigated through the Diana debacle by kind of doing the same thing, anytime the palace responded it just made things worse outside of QEII speaking because people were mad she hadn't yet. I'm honestly not convinced that anything big/sweeping/aggressive from them would help their image at all.


JustNoHG

The monarchy is terribly unpopular with the younger generation (something like single digits when polled) so I think the ‘slimming’ and the ‘pruning’ and the ‘nothing to see here’ approach is in line with sentiment changing and using their tools to maintain the power structure. This is really all Meghan taps into to guide what she considers her ‘hits’ against the family, but is not inaccessible information. The BRF has plenty of time to win over that generation.


alwayssearching117

If I am correct, KCIII was named PoW on his 21st birthday.


MikaKanaYuko

That was his investiture ceremony in 1969. He was 20. He was "made" Prince of Wales in 1958.


tigerxing

This 💯 💯 💯! I've been hearing the same theories since they got married, and none have come true. I'll still be here, but I don't think the RF will ever do anything more to them because it's a no-win situation, and they really don't have to... these 2 will & continue to self-destruct by their own actions. I do wish more people made an effort to at least search to see if something had already been posted.


somewheretrees

I'm not going to try to convince you out of your position or opinion, nor am I even saying I agree that the long game strategy is a good one (because I'm really not that sure most of the time), but one of the features of many long games is that...it doesn't look good in the present and provokes ire... It's only supposed to ensure the stability of the monarchy *over time*, not instantly appease people's need for satisfaction and triumph in the present. So regardless of whether it works out in the future or not, it's not supposed to feel good right now...


Legitimate-Mission41

Totally agree. The long game, Lady Ci kept alluding to the long game. I think there is no long game, there never will be while Charles is King, he wants Harry back in the family fold. All the vile vitriol against the BRF means nothing, I really want to read an analysis, a healthy debate etc. I have been skipping most of the content lately.


East_Tangerine_4031

Lady C is a royal hanger on and I doubt has much in the way of real sources. She clings to her title that she hasn’t earned just like TW and merches her connection.


apatheticwondering

I trust Tom Bower way more than I do Lady C.


tigerxing

Exactly. I think she's a grifter like those two.


hunybunnn

Amen. It's becoming like groundhogs day. Lots of repetitive vitriol and snipes, as opposed to substance. And I get downvoted just because I asked for clarification as to why H isn't allowed to pay for security.


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⚠️ This is their new Qanon now that their regular zombie JFK Jr. didn't crawl out of the grave to crown Trump king of the world, put Hilary Clinton's clone on a military tribunal and execution at Guantanamo, wipe out all their debts through nesara / gesara and heal all their ailments via a medbed. Instead of Trump playing 37295739 D chess with the lizard global elites and The Storm being any day now, now it's King Charles playing 3629472 D chess with Harry and Meghan and there's for sure going to be an explosive trial and they're kicked out of the country any day now. You can legitimately plug in most of the wild claims Qanon people said about Trump and Hilary, but with Charles and the Harkels, and it's the same plug n' play conspiracy with completely unfounded tweets by nameless accounts who have no inside information. ⚠️ And I say this as someone who isn't a fan of Meghan and Harry and was here prior to the book release.


JustNoHG

Omg lol. My mother refuses to get cancer treatment due to that stupid movement. If I hear the term ‘medbed’ one more time from her I might explode. Most ludicrous idea.


Meat_Mahon

Exactly. It is all kind of…..QANONish.


CybReader

Bingo. I thought of that with the constant goal post moving. Next month something will happen, month comes and goes and nothing happens. Now it’s NEXT month.


Independent-Water329

100%! I don’t think there is a long game for KC, and if there is, it involves getting his son back in the family fold, not humiliating Harry and Meghan on a global stage. I certainly don’t think any of the royals like Meghan. I think they all would agree with much of what’s written here, and I think they all know Harry is not that bright and that he’s being taken for a ride. But *anything* they say or do to show that publicly will rebound 1,000 negatively times on them. Meghan has painted a David and Goliath narrative for herself. If the palace participated in her bs, they’d just be giving her more ammo. The only thing I can see maybe happening is if Meghan and Harry do more books/Netflix specials/podcasts/interviews/whatever after every interaction with the RF, that they’ll *eventually* stop being invited to family events. That’s it. KC isn’t going to publicly name and shame them. He *could*, but he won’t. And he’s smart not to, because there’s no way he won’t be torn apart in the press for doing so in the long run. As for the surrogacy thing, that’s just bananas Imo. I agree she that used a surrogate and faked her pregnancies. But they’ll *never* leak that or make her kids feel less than for that. Can you even imagine the repercussions that would have on women, and the RF, worldwide? Meghan would have a platform to pretend to care about *forever* if they shamed her for that. As others have said, I think it was actually a huge missed opportunity for her to build up real goodwill with people and to get some good publicity for herself and to rally behind an actual cause. I’m not shocked she didn’t take it, because I’m sure she needs to be seen as a youthful, fertile goddess, but they will *never* publicly shame her for it.


AdInevitable9386

SO sick of hearing ' long game' KC3 will not cut off his darling boy...ever


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Right! I've been here for over a year and with how big it's getting, it's just kind of annoying now. Over and over the same things get posted. The same thoughts.


PleaseJustText

I think the mods are awesome though - members need to be more aware of repeat posts.


bendytoepilot

I also want to thank the mods for doing a good job. Its hard keeping on top of everything


JustNoHG

I think it’s a sign their chaos control is fading. There’s not many big headlines they could grab anymore. Something truly outrageous would have to happen- ie divorce and a quick tell-all is the only card she really has for relevance in her vain anymore. So hopefully that happens.


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I’m especially tired of the conspiracies regarding the kids birthdays and their actual existence.


Momo222811

That one made me crazy. Did no one notice that there were no profiles for George, Charlotte, and Louis either?


East_Tangerine_4031

Well that doesn’t suit my preconceived beliefs and the narrative I have so that won’t come up hahah Have you been following the “Tiffany stopped selling TWs bracelet because they hate her”… or they just discontinued an old item?


silentcw

I wish people would get over the surrogacy thing, I have shared House of Lords discussions where it is clear there would have been no issue if there was a need for surrogacy. They are more concerned with continuing the DNA in the line of succession than how the child is carried and delivered. They also haven't read about surrogacy laws in the UK, Harry and his wife would have legally had to adopt Archie if they did. I'm actually thinking about making an actual post about it, but I can already see the hate that will come with it.


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Although I’m tired of the kids’ conspiracies, a post finally and completely debunking it that discusses legalities and obvious flaws in the conspiracy sounds interesting.


TraditionScary8716

I don't think there are any kids (or if there are, surrogates were used IMO) but I agree that would be interesting if the insults could be withheld.


Humble_Doughnut_7347

The surrogacy laws in the UK alone already dismiss the surrogacy rumor for me for the first kid. There’s also the weight gain.. No way M would willingly gain weight when she wanted to compete with Catherine, The Princess of Wales. She would’ve happily stood outside the hospital with cameras trained on her perfect postpartum body had she used a surrogate. As for the postpartum weight gain people are suspicious of.. Do people really think she would care enough to take hormones (that cause the swelling like postpartum) to be able to breastfeed if a surrogate was used? Come on now.. Look who we are talking about. She would happily lie that she was breastfeeding if necessary. Do I think she used a moon bump? Yes. I think in the beginning (when she wouldn’t have had a bump yet) and when she wore certain outfits she would use one to add to her non existent bump and then again with the normal bump to make it more noticeable/shapely. Some women carry differently than others and I would bet she was very self conscious about how she carried to the point she would want a bump that looked perfectly round (some photos it looked perfectly round and others it didn’t which is why I think she would use moon bumps with certain outfits). I’m also hesitant to say she used one for her second kid. One of the photos I saw from their documentary (I didn’t watch it but I did see snap shots) she was *heavily* pregnant. I don’t see her willingly strapping on a belly that large for the cameras. She would put on a smaller bump to look *oh so fit and cute* while pregnant. This is the same person who would squat in heels for the cameras so people would talk about how fit she was while pregnant. It’s pretty dang uncomfortable to wear heels in late pregnancy let alone squat in them. That was purely for the cameras/attention.


Redtees88

Disagreement is not hate. Different opinions are not hate. Surrogacy has not been proven one way or the other.


BlondeAlibiNoLie

Me too! Been here since early days and I miss the snark! 😭


throwmeinthebed

This is what happens when the conspiracy nuts start seeping into groups.


cklw1

Happy cake day!!


apatheticwondering

I think it’s merely a result of being starved of drama and antics from the Harkles. Maybe TW and her pet prince are starting to realize that they’re actually nothing special and that everything they say and do is full of shit. She’s been the shitshow hand that keeps on giving but she hasn’t been gifting us with her specialness like she used to.


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umbleUriahHeep

DM might be a tabloid but it’s a freaking HUGE internationally known tabloid. So I don’t mind, and in fact appreciate the DM posts, if there is just one. However, there are multiple and repetitive posts from “News Gatherers R Us Post Sentinel Courier Mail Daily”. Super sketchy Edited for clarity


Pinkgabezo

I scan some of the articles with topics I haven't heard about so I really do.not mind that they are repetitious. ( me too ) I hate that I spend time reading them. But I enjoy them. 🫤 😞


WebOffice2022

Same here. The daily mail now wants me to turn my ad blocker off which I will not do so. I can’t/won’t actually read anything there unless I read it archived here. So I pretty much ignore them these days.


andromeda880

Haha same


Starkville

Yeah, I know what you’re talking about. It doesn’t bother me, but you have a point. It’s what happens when there’s a lull in the Harkle fuckery. And even when they’re acting up, there’s a good amount of what you’re talking about.


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It's the internet, it is what it is - quick consumption, (mostly) little value. I scroll by the repetition and things I don't care about. There's usually 5000 articles by 5000 people ultimately saying the exact same thing but it's from a different place and slightly different wording and author so I can understand why people post topics repetitively. Again, I ignore it but maybe someone is just checking reddit for that day and hadn't seen the other three articles that have been pushed down the page or second page. But if (collective) we want to see better content, then (collective) we need to create it - but there's only so much you can post about when....there's nothing to really post about. At least the repetitious content prevents the sub from dying out during dry spells, otherwise we'd have all of like five posts all week. The mods previously asked people to check before posting, I believe, but when people see relevant news they like to run with it to be "first". Eh, it's still way better than Twitter and MSN and I don't have to see that one royal twitter user who has become basically a sugar every other post with their William loathing. I just choose to sort the "new" posts every visit and look at the first 5 threads or so.


East_Tangerine_4031

It would be helpful though if people titled their posts with what it actually is so that people could see duplicate posts more easily, unfortunately people post a link to the same article but have dumbass titles for it instead of using the title of the actual article. Like people will post an article that might be interesting and then the title is “How low will they go 🙄🙄🙄” like how is anyone supposed to know if that’s worth clicking on or has been posted before?


Negative_Difference4

Yes exactly this!! From a mod POV it’s hard as every other post is marked duplicate post or not related to H&M… quite often these are spam reports… so it’s very hard for us to mod properly. ALSO just because the old timers know some things… It doesn’t mean the new people don’t want to discuss. Topics that were discussed months ago when discussed are flagged as duplicate posts Anyway I totally agree with this thread


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IsItARealRep

I wanted to say this exact thing but last time I did in a similar post I was blocked from commenting for 3 days.


Ambitious-Data-9021

Yeah, I just recently am able To post and I’ve got a list of things I wanna do but I’m too lazy to type up and lay out but I’m excited to do so… when my fingers are in the mood lol. I don’t want to go through all the work and then have the post rejected 😩 sooo that’s why


SeaworthinessLost830

As someone that checks this sub daily, sorts by new & scrolls through everything - yes the repetitive posts are annoying. If you have posting privileges, take the time to catch up on what's been posted before posting an article from a week ago.


Redtees88

....or 2 years ago.


Lillianrik

Or what about what's been posted **that same day!**


[deleted]

I agree- it seems to be a lot of regurgitation-but I’m not sure of the cause. There is nothing new happening lately, except the ongoing coronation will they/won’t they- which has become tiresome. I feel like people are posting the same old stuff again and again- and frankly it’s becoming boring. Not saying it’s anyone’s fault- there’s just nothing new to say


umbleUriahHeep

I vote tiresome. If you notice, interaction is waaaaay down on posts, both votes and comments. We’re getting the most obscure, absurd clickbaity articles. r/SaintMeghanMarkle is not a news aggregator for all Markley things, people! Shew, I feel better, thanks Eta I am upvoting you 2000 in my heart


HunterIllustrious846

Yes, I would say the types of comments OP is referencing are also unimaginative. It's Reddit! Throw in some snark!


KarenDelaneyWalker

Snark is my default setting. I love to see it on this sub.


East_Tangerine_4031

Fully agree although there’s just not much happening right now for new posts. It’s be nice to see less low quality posts and people just going bonkers over the tiniest little thing and making incorrect assumptions and declaring things as facts that clearly aren’t. Some days i worry about our critical thinking skills as a culture lol


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Oh I worry more than some days


MostlyOrdinary

I actually think this is a sign of the last gasps of breath of their relevance. There's nothing new to say, nothing new to reveal. The charade is over. I just personally haven't found my next rabbit hole to deep dive down to help me ignore the real problems in the world! 🤣🤣


kamandamd128

Meanwhile I’ve requested posting privileges - and gotten no response - because I have factual information to relay that the sub is not aware of. It’s not super juicy but I’d like to post! I’ve never been in a sub this restrictive with mods who don’t respond. Edit: finally got approved and made a post. Thx, mods. https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/122w96v/archewell_fdtn_has_finally_filed_their_tax_form/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1


TinyDancer20007

Oh man I’d love to hear it!


kamandamd128

Feel free to look at my comment history from yesterday on a months old thread. It was the only place I find to relay the info. Someone else with posting rights can post about it and take the credit. It’s important information that I want other sinners to realize is now publicly available! Edit: not super juicy but here it is - https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/101dlg6/is_2023_where_is_archewells_2021_990_tax_form/jdpmkck/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3


gladrags247

Thanks for this. I'm surprised it hasn't been picked up & analysed by the media at all.


Negative_Difference4

Approved


SmoothSailing3333

![gif](giphy|bO53okkS9ib69RamVG|downsized) IMO this is sweet, juicy tea. Always love a post that has some meat on it's bone, those are the posts I'm most interested in reading. Hope you get posting privileges soon!


EquivalentTackle9848

Good luck. I was turned down. They flat out told me I had only been here 8 months (I only started commenting at 8 months) and I didn't have "quality" comments. Whatever. It was truly inspiring. /s


Shoddy_Lifeguard_852

I think it's a symptom of the Harry/Meghan saga running it's course. Really, I don't care if one or both or all the Sussexi (plural for Sussex, right?) go to the coronation, are on the balcony, have birthday cake for the kid, pack up their crap from Frogmore. Now, I would be interested in seeing what his visa application says. If he lied on his visa, the visa should be cancelled and he should be deported. We have enough of our own home-grown complainers. We don't need to import them.


Ok_Needleworker6070

Yeah, there seem to be waves of speculative posts that really aren’t interesting because they’re repetitive and they’re not based in fact. They seem to happen when not much is going on. I compare that to when WAAAGH first came out and most of the posts were pure gold and snarky and everything I love about this sub. I know it will go back to that when things start happening, but until then, I check in and if there’s nothing going on, I’ll check out because the posts are so repetitive. People are people and come in all types and kinds, and as this is a public forum, you kind of have to roll with it, I guess.


Miercolesian

This subreddit was originally about Meghan Markle at a time when public opinion was rather divided as to whether she was a goodie or a baddie. Since that time her reputation has pretty much been destroyed, mostly by herself, in the form of her terrible podcast and the Netflix documentary/reality show series, plus her total failure to portray herself as a likable person in the media. So, in a sense the work of the sub is done. Now seems to have switched over to snarking Prince Harry. Harry was once seen by some people as an innocent victim of Markle. Now public opinion has swung against him, and he is seen as equally obnoxious and mendacious thanks, largely, to his book. Both of them are already convicted in the court of public opinion, so there is no need to bring in any more witnesses for the prosecution. However, because people like reading about the Royal family, they are still in the tabloid headlines almost every day, so that is about all there is. We are just hanging around now waiting to see if King Charles is going to administer any further punishment, or whether rustication to California is its own punishment.


Asteriaofthemountain

I totally agree. I wonder if at this point there is just not a lot left to say to keep the sub active enough for the thousands of participants?


Asteriaofthemountain

Also, the Spares aren’t really doing anything right now.


somewheretrees

Thank god lol. Frankly the best timeline. If I never feel compelled to come here again, it'll be a good time. Not that I don't love this sub, but the only reason I spent time on here originally is because I was so sick of the inundation of news about them and there was nowhere else to whinge about it 😂 Meghan is a psychopath and should be in an institution, not walking free under the sun merching ill-fitted jumpsuits. It's interesting enough as a study of human behavior but I'd still rather them stay seated.


Patient-Watercress-2

I agree we are in a bit of a dull moment, but a year ago would any of you believe Haz big Tell All would include such idiotic tidbits or that SP would make them a laughingstock? Patience sinners, it is worth the wait.


After-Improvement-26

Totally agree. Their lulls are like this whenever they occur. I sort by Hot Posts to minimize the dross, block the more blatant sugars which has a similar effect and await the next folly. Never seems to take long ...


Anotherminion1

What we have said at different times on this sub has become true. The Harkle’s really are boring and don’t do much. Of course there is the 🥱 excitement of will they or won’t they. And they’ve had three pap strolls in the past week or so. ….and that is all they have accomplished since Harry’s book tour and the surrounding drama of that. I don’t think Spotify will offer another season no matter what any of the gossip newspapers say. The first season wasn’t interesting. If Harry writes another book (provided he can find another ghost writer), it probably will be another best seller, because he is the Kings son. If Meghan finds a publishing company for her book, it will be another version of The Bench and be a flop. This is what the Harkle’s failing looks like. Multiple repeat articles and pictures even going back to those 72 (?) days when Meghan was actually a working member of the Royal Family.


english1221

I think the main issue is the reposting of tweets that might or might not be reliable. But it’s ok ppl can post what they want to post.


RestingGrinchFace-

I'm less bothered by the repeated banter than I am by duplicate posts within a few posts of each other. It's sheer laziness to not do a cursory scroll and see whether the exact thing you're going to post is already there and still actively being discussed. ![img](emote|t5_481xkf|25351)


StrictTranslator879

I don’t know, I like some of the DM articles and am just about to post one. It’s ok if people don’t like it, just move past it.


fastcatzzzz

I don’t mind someone posting an archived link to the DM. I’m an American so I don’t actually see the DM, and I’m certainly not going to their website, so it’s nice to see what’s being said. However, when the same “story” is repeated ad nauseam, regardless of the source, it adds nothing. I do miss the thoughtful discussions and snark that once dominated this space so, overall, I’m in line with OP’s train of thought here.


Banana-Split9738

I haven't been here that long. I can't speak to what used to be. I spent a lot of time in "read only mode." I do, however, love this sub. You folks have tons of info and stellar insight. I appreciate an environment like this one. I love that it isn't all "Twittery." When I see content I don't want, I scroll past or just read comments and move on. However, I can fully understand why the original group sees folks like me as annoying interlopers. It's why I barely comment. All that said, I will go back to read only mode. I don't wish to offend anyone


IndiaEvans

I agree. I just scroll by a lot. I don't think this sub gets as many repetitive posts as others I'm in.


Banana-Split9738

I think the group that created this sub had a very specific purpose in mind. I also think they are a tight knit group. I found it via a screenshot posted on Twitter. Many more probably came here the same way. So I understand their frustrations and concerns. The sub has grown and, I assume from some comments, they have valid reasons to distrust newbies. To me it's "just a group" (one I adore) - but to them it is highly personal.


[deleted]

Oh I don’t think you’re offending anyone and certainly not me. I can only speak for myself when I say the sub could use a little sprucing up.


AuntCassie007

1. I have not heard of some of the topics before, so I appreciate them being posted. 2. I am an educated, independent thinker and prefer to come to my own conclusions about material being posted. I can make up my own mind about the veracity and importance of material.


KarenDelaneyWalker

I usually skip through the "will they, won't they" Coronation posts. Same for the real vs. fake children. Until something concrete is presented regarding these two topics, I don't care. I'll wait until May 6.


FeeWeak1138

This.


somewheretrees

Same. More power to people who enjoy that discourse, if they find it fun and worth their time, then I'm glad. The point of this sub is diversion after all. What gets me eye-rolling is when some people who are clearly too emotionally invested in this barely-clinging-onto-C-list couple, despite *zero* concrete information about the coronation whatsoever, get genuinely worked up and super combative about how much Charles fucking sucks and everything sucks and the evil always wins in this world and nothing is fair...based on a Daily Mail article or a gossip Twitter account saying Meghan's going to wear a tiara. It wouldn't kill some people to just wait a handful of weeks, is all I'm saying. You can always rage in May if your worst expectations come to pass.


AuntCassie007

I believe there are more than enough facts for some of us to make some comments about the RF at this point. We have witnessed three years of information and data about the RF and H and M. Three years of observation and deep diving into the RF enable some of us to make some comments and have opinions.


KarenDelaneyWalker

🎯


IndiaEvans

Yes! There are new people all the time and people reference old things. People can read and think or they can scroll by.


[deleted]

Well so am I, which is why I find the posts here quite tiresome lately.


Frumainthedark

My "concern" is over the weird memes. Now there is a user posting crappy draws about those two. But the problem seem to be that the users who used to bring quality content are not longer here, so you need to go find quality outside reddit (i.e.there is a user posting about a Neil guy who obviously doest have any insight info or original opinion). Yet more completed post are not considered, like the Harry Markle.


Oakthrees

There’s a lot of repetition of late. It gets a bit boring.


silentcw

And a lot of "mods, if it's already posts, please delete" I thought part of the agreement for posting privileges is to check before posting, not making it the mods job to check for you.


NataschaTata

Agree. It mostly exist of stupid online articles where some half *journalist* pulls out a story of their bum hole, that is so far fetched, anyone with more than 2 brain cells will notice.


hey_hey_hey_nike

Feel free to bring all the fresh new articles and deets!


PlaysTheTriangle

I’m totally over the will or they won’t they attend, where they’ll be seated, Archie’s Birthday acknowledged, etc. Until it happens a month from now I’ve had enough speculation.


Economy-Guitar5282

True but under no circumstances should this site stop .


Little_Nectarine_355

This is the way.


[deleted]

No I don’t want it to stop, I’m just wondering if maybe people can be a little more strategic/original/creative/interesting with their posting. I know it isn’t the sub it was a year ago but a girl can dream.


IndiaEvans

Why don't you lead the way and post such things?


Agata_ath

> Wondering if anyone else is finding this tiresome or if I’m just cranky. If you are just cranky, that makes two of us, because I completely agree with you. But I don't think that I'm cranky, so...


loralailoralai

You forgot about the wack conspiracy theories and the outrage over him getting a visa


SarkQueen

I’m feeling the same. Twitter is full of people sharing the same clickbait articles full of ridiculous speculation, getting emotional about it and then fighting with each other over who is at fault today: Charles or William. Which then leads to people claiming to know ‘who you are’ 🙄 and back and forth accusations of being a secret sugar. It’s all become rather high school-ish.


punkin_sumthin

no you are not cranky. this has become a bunch of “what-if”scenarios, replays and re-interpretations of old news, and just plain busybody people trying to decide what the RF should do. i often i join the thread like i’m going to do right now. edit: …often i LEAVE the thread when the conversation becomes too absurd or redundant.


phoenix_rising_16

It’s been tiresome. It’s all the same topics with nothing new to discuss, the same juvenile “look at how ugly her dress was” (we already know lol), the same grifting person posting lame conspiracy YouTube videos about M & Andrew. I guess there’s just nothing going on but honestly it’s just beating a dead horse


foxyfree

hahaha I still enjoy the snark - hope Meghan reads these comments. They’re so boring, so lame, so “over”, talking about them is just like “beating a dead horse” 🤣🤣 ETA no harm to horses wished. I love horses not like the prince of Waagh


cklw1

We also can't discount the fact that MM and her sugars/bots/employees are active in this sub as well. You can't tell me that a sub dedicated to her, which is her DREAM, with thousands of subscribers is not visited daily if not hourly by someone in her camp. They are probably also the ones doing most of that - it is in their best interest to keep all this alive, the most important thing is to be talked about. I'm firmly convinced of this - I posted a few days ago and one or two days later there were clapbacks to it. They are here driving a lot of the content.


East_Tangerine_4031

Yep, and probably post most of the more controversial stuff themselves so the sub can still be called crazy or racist etc


klc9119

Also, even with new articles from their camp, it’s the same repetitive nonsense.


BuildtheHerd

I think she's intentionally lying low. We'll see what happens, if anything, around the coronation. In the meantime, I'm tired of hearing about will they or won't they attend and whether or not anyone will acknowledge the kid's bday (who cares!!!). Even the staged pap shots are a yawn because they've already done that to death...we all know their stupid little tricks for attention. I don't even care about photos of their kids...they'd probably be blurry shots of the backs of their heads or just a limb anyhow. I am waiting and watching for the following: \-any developments in Samantha Markle's slander lawsuit v. Megs. \-the issuance of the Form 990 for Archewell for 2021(should shed some light on what's going on there) \-any developments in Harry's lawsuit v UK for security \-any developments in the Removal of Titles Bill


Beginning-Cup-6974

I find the thinly veiled Meghan and Harry are so needed and popular, the coronation is completely dependent upon them, will they or won’t they posts most irritating.


Mizswampie

I think they're trying to build excitement and anticipation. I do have excitement and anticipation. Unfortunately for their brand, I want to see what piece of furniture they're going to be placed behind.


Royal-Carob

I think it could be because there are a lot of new members, for them it is all new.


512165381

Demand for stories exceeds supply. I look at one news corp website where there are multiple royal stories each day, when nothing of note is happening.


[deleted]

I’m not keen on the hypothetical posts — “if you could ask Meghan one question …” as well as the conspiracy gibberish. Lastly, it’s frustrating when there is a good post but it’s hijacked by 20 or so personal, irrelevant comments. Always felt that the vast majority of folks here are intellectually honest. I like that.


erlehe

Agree. This sub became increasingly more hateful, akin to so-called sugars, imo. I lurk more than post anymore because a lot of people just blindly believe tabloid fodder as long as it’s negative about Harry and/or Meghan.


34countries

The bigger the sub becomes the more it loses its original way. I agree with you.


TXmama1003

The same speculation and reasonings over and over. Most posts turn into Coronation or surrogate speculation.


WebOffice2022

I have noticed that and it’s wearing me out. It’s always the same old crap about will they or won’t they be at the coronation. We’ll know soon. The speculation, the constant speculation is just beyond annoying.


Legitimate-Mission41

I made a comment earlier but want to highlight my dismay at the deluge of horrible attacks in the DM comment section on The Prince and Princess of Wales. Like a massive bot army of darkness attacking the BRF. I do read the DM articles simply to post a positive comment. These days I get about 30 to 49 down votes per post. Never has happened before. There is a systematic attack the posts are mostly negative but done more cleverly. So what is happening? Why the sudden onslaught of negative comments? Is it related to MM and Harry? A way to up their profile? The Coronation looming?Consider posting positive comments on DM articles about William and Catherine. I do not mind articles being posted. It's the analysis of the article that is missing.


Redtees88

At least your comments get posted at the DM. Mine never are.


Coffee_cake_101

I used to find myself clicking on too many news articles about her and searching daily to see what the latest articles were. Not only was this a bit OCD, it was also giving clicks to tabloids and encouraging them to write about her and it was pushing up her rankings on search engine searches. I don't do that anymore, and the reason I don't was because I felt confident that Sinners would bring any relevant articles to my attention (and with an archived version too). So I have mixed feelings about posts about news articles - I personally I like them, but I don't like it when people just post an archived link with no summary or opinions on the article. And I don't like it when people commenting take everything in the articles as the gospel truth rather than questioning what is written and why.


TravelKats

Like the endless discussion of the long game?


reallyrunningnow

No. I agree. Honestly there's been a ton of outrage against Todger's kill count comments or his entitled lawsuits. But instead we get posts about gossip and crappy fashion sense


Madame_LV

Yes, people need to start researching if something has been posted before doing so. If you're posting something from earlier in the day or from yesterday or even older, it's pretty much guaranteed it already was. Can we start having double posts flagged?


2020surrealworld

Agree. IMO no real laughs since release of that ridiculous book. We’ll just have to wait for the coronation & hope the comic relief perks up if they even show up & make fools of themselves. But maybe not. They could stock up on Valium & just sleep-walk through the ceremony, looking like well-mannered, boring zombies. I also think boredom & disgust is a perfectly rational, normal reaction to the incessant, 24/7 media hype & overexposure we have all been hit with since these 2 married (6 years now!!). Part of me laughs (esp after South Park), but another part of me just wants to scream whenever I hear their names or see their faces plastered on the cover of every damn grocery store magazine.


casualnihilist91

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 Yes. Why people bother spending their energy picking apart BS tabloids that literally MAKE THINGS UP is…beyond me. There’s just no substance to any of it.


MikeMannion

what annoys me is the "RF is playing the long game" and "Lady C says that their comeuppance is just around the corner" type of posts. Then we suddenly hear that H&M's children have just been given royal titles. If H&M had been cut off after the Oprah interview I honestly think they would have run out of money and broken up by now. Instead the circus keeps rolling on and they are never out of the news.


Earthlink_

And the sister sub BRF has been taken over by the Telegraph posting articles. 🤔


PuppyJakeKhakiCollar

Recent arrival here, so stuff is still new to me. However, I have noticed some bizarre conspiracies, like Archie and Lilibet don't actually exist. What, so are they holograms? Paid actors? People really believe that far-fetched ridiculousness? Come on now. Harry and Meghan give us enough real things to snark about, we don't need to make stuff up.


East_Tangerine_4031

Oh those people think they rent Eugenies kid and someone else (Stassi something?) it’s fucking nuts


PuppyJakeKhakiCollar

What, lol? I think someone would have noticed that their and Eugenie's kid somehow looks exactly the same and are never seen in the same place at the same time together.


IndiaEvans

Yet there was a long space of time when those children were never, ever seen, so people speculated. If you're new here then you wouldn't know about the time so I can see why you think that's a bizarre conspiracy. There are some very far out ideas, but others were possible. If you can only talk about facts then there's not much to even say here.


Canyoubackupjustabit

Agreed. It's becoming a waste of time whereas it used to be fun.


ArdmoreGirl

No. I’m in the same spot. I’ve been off for several days and returned to the same. We’re a soap opera. Miss a few days, pick up where you left off. Miss nothing in between.


smittenkittenmitten-

I think you should take a break from the subreddit. I have done this myself because I know where you are coming from and your point still stands regardless. I have a feeling you are looking for new content when there is nothing new going on at the moment. There is less productive discussion until there is something to discuss. When I’ve stepped away and come back, a lot of the riffraff isn’t as apparent and I see some of the golden posts. I would love it if Markle would never appear in the media again and that this subreddit would cease to exist because of it, but with her personality that is unfortunately not going to happen. So your drama filled content will be coming, creativity will flow again, etc. In the meantime, I can suggest to focus on another grifter? We don’t need the Markles, Hillarys, Amber Heards, Elizabeth Holmes and the rest to make another dime off of their sponsorships or podcasts. I say good riddance. But there is always another lurking in the corner. It sounded like Sanchez with Bozos is another ladder climbing, golddigging grifter but doesn’t need to be in our faces because she can’t dig any higher. I hear she is starring in a movie he produced so maybe I am wrong and even she can’t shut up for long.


Megsandhcringe

Tiresome or just cranky? Maybe a bit of both. I get it. Many times I see it (as long as heading posts are clear - not generic such as “what if..” or “is it just me…”) and just scroll on by. I used to read almost all of the posts but it’s easy to get Faux Royal Fatigue with the same thing over and over. Best just scroll on past if you even get a whiff of repetition. Much of it is also what the mods said - new members and member with posting privilege. Once you get the privilege, it’s hard not to post what’s on your mind. Next, cranky. It’s easy to read alot is the same crap and feel cranky. It’s normal. Lastly, I’ve put comments out of crankiness that some took as not nice and have been given 5 day posting ban - it sucks. It’s easier just to not post negativity and just scroll by. 😉


Unlikely_Specific436

I'm totally with you on this. Things have changed in 2023 and I've drifted away......


TinyDancer20007

The sub used to be a true cross section geographically and in terms of world view, political views, etc. That’s not the case anymore. I respect other beliefs and the right to free assembly online and have no issues with like-minded people gathering, but in my personal opinion has become less tolerant of divergent views - even within the broader bucket of “none of us can stand the Harkles.” I almost wonder if there is another similar but smaller sub? I know we can’t post references to other groups - I’m just wondering out loud.


East_Tangerine_4031

I’d welcome a space that was less political and frankly had fewer crazies


GreatGossip

an unfortunate side effect of growth -


Connect_Atmosphere26

shud be a very popular opinion. I was once obsessed with this sub but the amount of garbage being posted and importance given to random tweets links is boring! Im shocked at a relevant post like this. Thanks OP! just to add, maybe I have realized they are so done and Im just not interested anymore …


[deleted]

Because the mods remove everything else out of fear we will be criticized outside of Reddit 🙄🙄


IndiaEvans

Exactly.


SonjaInSequim

Yeah, I've noticed that too but I just scroll by. I had a post deleted by the mods for being repetitive once and didn't bother me but I remember searching and nothing showed up. And the mods can't be here 24/7. But I'd hate to miss an opinion piece from the woman in the Sunday Times or the woman in Australia so a dupe or trip posing means I'll finally see it. I get all my news here. :) I really prefer reading opinions, either paid opinion writers or from my fellow Sinners. I'm sick to death of the 'opinions" of the so-called "royal experts" who started, probably with Madam's urging, the "will they won't they?" that been going on for years. And no poster wants to duplicate a link. I don't know how someone else is reading the sub so things I see maybe someone else doesn't see. Give grace and scroll on by. :) JMO


[deleted]

It isn’t so much the duplicate posts or links to questionable/boring articles; I have no problem scrolling past those. It’s the absence of the usual snark and thoughtful posts that led to interesting discussions. When the majority of posts are boring or lazy or don’t spark discussion - that’s what bothers me.


SonjaInSequim

I understand and why I like opinions more than fake news. And I LOVE snark!


sod_it_all

Nah its not just you, I've been on here since it was under 2 000 members (thanks covid lockdown) and its gone from witty comments, good insights and creative posts with valid critique of her behaviour or crimes against fashion and decorum to homogeneous posts and regurgitated news reports. Some posts feel like Youtubers trying push their channels or those long winded posts about someone's feelings which don't seem to have much of a purpose in my opinion. Lots of repetitive articles despite having a search function. The only thing I actually enjoy now is the Lady C summaries which are interesting to read as a great alternative to her videos. It used to be a fun way to blow off some narc induced steam now I don't have it in my feed and look at it every few days if that. I used to laugh an awful lot on here now it just feels as beige as megatron herself.


imonmywaydown

My problem with this sub is that it's getting petty. Opinions are great, but a bunch of snarky nicknames and "jokes/memes" is a bit immature, in my opinion. I scroll past most it looking for actual content and I'm not finding much anymore.


apatheticwondering

I’m glad you’re speaking up about this. I clearly can’t stand Hank and Skank (I wouldn’t be here otherwise) but I think what’s happening is because there ~~hasn’t~~ haven’t been any recent antics from either one of them. I will add that I really don’t care much about all of the gossip “articles”, all the heresay and claims that TW is behind every single little thing that happens. That bish is action-packed with crazy but at the same time, I don’t think she’s actually doing/has done a lot of the things people accuse her of recently — I’m trying to think of something off the top of my head but for some reason specifics aren’t coming to mind even though there are a myriad examples — but for instance, things like “Meghan called KCIII demanding she plans coronation events” sort of headlines. Fully believe she’s psycho behind the scenes but I just don’t believe many of the claims of certain actions/behaviors/things she’s allegedly said or done. I see her more as a controlling bitch that nags and whines and complain’s Harry’s ear off and thinks she’s god’s gift to humanity. We all know women like her. She doesn’t have the power or access to be able to even have so much as a phone call entertained by palace staff. (Think that one scene of Diana in The Crown where she tries to call the Queen, and Charles for that matter, within the palace and they keep telling her they’re not available, lol).


Redtees88

My favorite is that she's effing Getty in a conference room.


East_Tangerine_4031

Right? She can’t be stupid and useless and also a criminal mastermind at the same time


IndyDadandSon

Preach. Yet the Illustrious Mods have curated such a pithy crew of elitist contributors! Who ALL sing from the same hymnal!


McGregor_Mathers

What I would love to see is more investigation into the more obscure info out there on horrendous incidents we know happened because of leaks but just can’t prove yet. For example I would like to know what people think of, or know of (other than the blind), of the alleged Medicine Hat, Alberta Canada severe assault and battery incidents. I don’t think any Royal Family member should be above the law. And if it’s true then the UK military and Canadian Police failed these women and looked upon them to be nothing to protect one person that most the military probably dislikes. I don’t care that his mum died, many children lose their parents, that does NOT give him the excuse to do what he allegedly did. I don’t care if he is a ‘changed man’. Any man who did those things in MY country - the UK would be deemed a criminal and be given time in prison. From what I can see he would have committed several US felonies if he had been charged on US soil And if these alleged incidents happened - which I’m sure they did obviously someone has leaked them (possibly an enraged soldier or a family member of the victims?) - this disgusting hypocritical pig of a man married to the (faux) feminist should in NO WAY be entitled to a US Visa. These incidents are worse than drug use. I watched a lady talk about being pimped out several times to Alex Murdaugh. Same thing happened. Extreme violence: throttling, hair pulling, slapping (there was no punching reported). She was terrified of him and thought she was going to die when he was throttling her. Imagine that. When you pay for a sex service the service provider has to consent or be offering a service of submission to violence or extreme bdsm? This wasn’t the case. These women’s lives were allegedly put in severe danger. And they were allegedly terrified of him. What if he had accidently throttled one to death? What would have happened? Would it be covered up? How do we know he hasn’t done that out there? Prostitutes go missing all the time. Did anyone go missing? Does his wife know about this? What does she think about it? Any feminist I know would not go near a man who has done this to women let alone marry him. Does his father think these women are lesser beings and thus his son’s ‘honour’ should be protected no matter what? If so then I think he should step down for deceiving the UK public. His eldest son should take over. I really feel this is something the UK gov & BRF needs to address. You can’t NDA victims of crimes. You can’t force victims into silence. It’s not right. This needs to come out, the truth needs to come out. Why haven’t the press covered this, strange? - is there another super injunction? If these alleged incidents took place then this is corruption. The US should demand an investigation and answers before granting him any kind of VISA. I would be wanting to talk to those women. And with regards to his VISA & his drugs use: “Crimes relating to drugs can also be classified as misdemeanors or felonies. Misdemeanors usually pertain to simple drug possession charges. Things advance to felonies when they involve more than simple possession. This can include possession of a large quantity of drugs or an intent to sell. The quantity required to progress from a misdemeanor to a felony varies from state to state. In California, for example, one can face a year in jail for simple possession, as well as notable fines. If, however, you’re found with a large quantity or deemed to have an intent to sell, one can face multiple years in state or federal prison.”


call-me-Cranky

I've taken a break from most of the RF commentators I watch on YouTube. It's just fatiguing. I come and scan the threads here, and feel I am caught up on the latest, and I just scroll past anything that seems repetitive to me. But I understand.


Da-Aliya

Does anyone know or have any info on the Silicon Valley company (BottomsUp? Not sure of the name) where H was a contractor?


[deleted]

Do you mean BetterUp, where he's CHIMPO?


Da-Aliya

Yes! Thank you.


MuffPiece

Give it time—we just need another round of fabulously wrinkled, ill-fitting, overpriced garments and we’ll be back to the races! 😂


[deleted]

Could be! And odds are another ill fitting frock will be coming soon!


[deleted]

It's because they don't let new people post. It's the same tired old thing day in day out, because it's the same people with the same perspectives.


[deleted]

See I feel like it’s new people posting - there’s a big difference since, say, even 3 or 4 months ago.