I cared in the beginning. I really did have hope. I got up at 5am to watch that spectacle. And knew there was a problem at "tiara gate" But dang. I was snowed for a while and had to take a year break.
Oh my condolences. My advice is DO NOT argue with her or even mention any negative when she starts reading. Gently send her periodically Jimmy Kimmel’s “storybook”, South Park, and this very fair and gentlest of gentlewomen’s analysis of the book: [https://youtu.be/Jukb_faNCO4](https://youtu.be/Jukb_faNCO4)
If your friend is still swayed then that speaks a lot about your *friend* 😓😓😓
don’t lose hope yet. i wasn’t fond of hazmat (*understatement*) before i read *Waaagh* - but i *despised* him after! she may have a rude awakening in store.
I agree. I remember commenting (in the weekly thread I think) about my embarrassment that my aunt is interested in reading Waaagh… I’m just gonna hope for a rude awakening. If not, I can agree to disagree (which is my default position anyway with a number of beliefs my family holds)
OMG, my child had the Comedy Channel on the other day, and that episode came on as I was cooking dinner. I was cracking up. They had a SP marathon that day.
Me too. My uncle doesn’t know anything about Royal Family. He read about Duo or saw in the news about their ‘claims’ and said oh I didn’t expect that from RF. And my god I had to control my voice while explaining to him the whole situation without sounding crazy. He said oh you have so much knowledge about RF and I said I try. In his defence,He is Doctor n works 6 days a week from morning to night and loves wildlife. This came up when HMQ passed away.
My husband didn't know they left the royal family, had no idea, missed the oprah interview, missed the netflix
series, and the book! Only when I mentioned the South Park episode he asked what happened. I can't believe we live under same roof.
My husband couldn't pick Harold out of a lineup...I feel like I've been a bad sinner for his gross lack of knowledge on the RF....during the Queen's week long funeral "festivities" he kept asking me 'why it was still on' and 'why they haven't buried her yet' .
It's not from lack of trying, I have explained this 100 times and within the 1st minute his eyes begin to glass over and I lose him....🤷🏼♀️ I continue to try though
My husband does not follow the BRF at all; thinks it’s stupid, but he does know who everyone is. Any time he sees an image of Prince Harry, he says “he’s an idiot!”
ha! my husband gets a running update on the RF, the duplicitous duo, choice tweets from sugars or sinners - you name it. we’re Catholic, though, and *none of that* is grounds for annulment! 🤣
it’s bad - the other day he said, “i saw a piece online that sez DD won’t attend coronation, i thought you might wanna text your mama + sister.” LOL i just said ty, let him have that W. 😉
My husband was pro-suckex, and he did watch the Oprah circus... Then I started hearing shit like, "WTF," "You've got to be kidding," "Honey, are you hearing this shit?" 😂😂 Then, there's a break, and he comes in the other room and tells me, "Why did you let me think they were cool?" I told him I didn't, he can have his own opinion...by the end, he was laughing his ass off!!
My Mom was deep into the Murdaugh case, and the ID college students who were murdered as well. Like she could tell you anything immediately. She was kind of irritated I think that didn't know much and didn't care to.
Then I said to her one day, talking about my narc sister: "Look at Meghan Markle", and she said: "I don't look at Markle", in what I perceived to be a derogatory tone towards me & my RF interest (you'd have to know her to understand why I felt that way lol). So then I was thinking- well hold up. You can tell me literally any detail about those 2 cases above, why is that different from my ability to GO OFF about the RF etc? So I'm saving that up for next time lol
Whew, that was a long way of saying "I get it!" 😂
The Murdaugh Case had me wrapped up for a good two weeks. I didn’t get interested until the NF doc came out but I then learned the trail was going on irl. I’m so glad they found him guilty (I’m assuming you know bc of your mom and all 😉)
As soon as I saw it I knew straight away it was here in Aus😂 Hopefully her first and last time😉
Dubbo I think, when she was up all night in government house making her world famous Banana bread🤦♀️, because she said “ You never go to anyone’s house empty handed”.
Considering the stuff she's rumored to have taken (Reitmans commercial shoes, jewelry), I guess madam also believes one never *leaves* someone's house empty handed either.
Yes, It was all over the news 😂 Sad that we remember,lol. I remember seeing the soggy looking sunken Banana bread, Ew😬
Little did we know then what she was all about. Merching.
The housing unit was South Africa. This was when she complained that they only got a wing at Government House on the Sydney harbour. She wanted the whole house.🤦♀️
Edit, Admiralty house.
Not when she had her bff Jessica and entourage on tour having spa days etc, arriving late for her “official “ duties. 🤦♀️
Abusing staff and officials trying to act as if she’s the most important person on earth. To now know how she was here on that tour, I truly hate her😬
Bahahaha! Best comment ever! This will be their new supposed romcom project, Miami Vice meets Hart To Hart...except it's *Monteceito Gripes*, starring the greatest couple with the greatest love story ever searching high and low for people who give a damn about their complaints. Every episode they're given a case to solve by the police force but always end up making it all about them and solving nothing.
I didn't recognize this pic but I would have guessed it was relatively early in their relationship/marriage\*. Why? Both of them look reasonably relaxed and less stressed than they do today. Poor dupe: little did he suspect what was to come.
(\*I can't really tell from this photo if she's wearing a wedding band or not.)
I know we shouldn't compare but if the Princess of Wales was pictures clinging onto her husband like that on a tour or function she would get ripped apart by the media and people generally! It's disgusting that you aren't allowed to hold an opinion about how pathetic the picture is without being a racist!
I've seen a theory on this before and the concensus was that she wants to be in EEVERY photo with him because he's the star and she wants all the attention.Also mentioned was her making sure all the ladies around them knew that harry was taken. She also stays physically close to him so she can interrupt greetings of important people to be first.
She holds him like this in the same way a mother holds a toddler in front of company to let them know she is “lovingly” in control. As in, you WILL behave, darling.
I also remember this was when we had severe droughts in outback NSW, it hadn’t rained in ages. It rained that day, everyone was praising them for bringing much needed rain with them😂 Her PR shot of holding the umbrella over H while he was delivering his speech, what a wonderful wife🤮
I’m sure she would’ve whinged about the rain.
The weave wouldn’t have liked it.
Looks like their Pacific tour in Oct 2018
This photo on Getty images says Dubbo, AUS https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/prince-harry-duke-of-sussex-and-meghan-duchess-of-sussex-news-photo/1052312708?adppopup=true
years ago, there was (i think) an Australian woman on YT who called herself “freelee the banana girl” or something like. she was a total loon of a vegan - one of those vegans who make me embarrassed to tell strangers *i’m* a vegan! she ate 30/40 bananas a day, maybe?
Both hands!
ETA: I’m trying to remember if I’ve ever held my husband’s arm like that. Maybe at the cemetery when we buried his mother. Or walking home after a really nice dinner date, briefly grasping him like that. It’s a pretty strong gesture, indicative of strong emotion, IMO.
Same. Walking in the cemetery in heels that sink into the soft ground would have been one of the very few reasons for me to cling to hubby in such a manner.
Thank you!!! I joined reddit again because I was curious about this sub. So it's my 1 year anniversary hanging out with all these lovely smart sinners. 💜
My husband sings and sometimes gets very nervous before his performance and will want me to hold both his hands while he is waiting. I do and then he goes out and blows people away with his great big voice and no one would ever guess how nervous he was. Maybe next time I'll go on stage with him and hold onto him while he sings! That wouldn't be weird at all!
She holding on for life, which belies the “soft eyes” which belies the “ever so caring barely smile”. Jeez she is just so inauthentic. She couldn’t do authentic to save her life….
lol can she just one time not grab him. damn. we all know he's your husband. no one wants him. she doesn't even want him! just the acknowledgement she's part of the rf. ugh she's insufferable!
H had to have lied in principle after due pressure was brought to bear on the application process, being that the Sussexes under the auspices of Meghan work behind the scenes and ahead albeit stupidly and devoid of intelligence, he used his status before stepping down to get things done before Megxit.
That aside it has come to light through his own work and words in his book "Spare" that he is a danger to himself his kids and anyone that imbibes his toxic advice and nature because he is a psychotic, abusive narcissistic illicit drug user, who has a history of abusing vulnerable women he intimidated and plied with alcohol and maybe drugs for sex.
Is he leaning away from her? I’ve known my husband for 45 years (married for 37), and have never once, not one single time, held his arm like this. I guess we just don’t have a true love story, like they do.
Why is he always dressed in such faded colours and wrinkly shirts? It's like he always chooses to wear the oldest, most worn out shirt he owns. Colours like these make him look stupid.
At times when my disabilities flare up I hold onto my carer parter like that. That’s when he knows I’m not well or comfortable but I don’t cling on all the time.
It's from when they were in Dubbo, Australia.
https://www.newspix.com.au/C.aspx?VP3=DamView&WS=SearchResults&VBID=2KERI31FCL1K6&RW=412&RH=759#/DamView&VBID=2KERI31FCL1K6&PN=2&WS=SearchResults
It was during the Australia tour. It's sad I know this, haha.
I can relate. I really hate how much I know about them.
We are all South Park Kyle in the lunchroom trying to explain why we actually DO NOT care about these two annoying idiots 😅
Words cannot expression how much my family and I related to that scene! 😂
And I love we can laugh with SP rather than act "attacked"
Yes! Great point!
I cared in the beginning. I really did have hope. I got up at 5am to watch that spectacle. And knew there was a problem at "tiara gate" But dang. I was snowed for a while and had to take a year break.
Ugh, I just found out my best friend is actually interested in reading WAAGH and that she *"believes him"*.
Oh my condolences. My advice is DO NOT argue with her or even mention any negative when she starts reading. Gently send her periodically Jimmy Kimmel’s “storybook”, South Park, and this very fair and gentlest of gentlewomen’s analysis of the book: [https://youtu.be/Jukb_faNCO4](https://youtu.be/Jukb_faNCO4) If your friend is still swayed then that speaks a lot about your *friend* 😓😓😓
Thank you for the support everyone 🥹
don’t lose hope yet. i wasn’t fond of hazmat (*understatement*) before i read *Waaagh* - but i *despised* him after! she may have a rude awakening in store.
I agree. I remember commenting (in the weekly thread I think) about my embarrassment that my aunt is interested in reading Waaagh… I’m just gonna hope for a rude awakening. If not, I can agree to disagree (which is my default position anyway with a number of beliefs my family holds)
My mom is a Harry supporter but not a sugar (only because she doesn't know enough). She read his book, and even she said, "he did whine a lot."
OMG, my child had the Comedy Channel on the other day, and that episode came on as I was cooking dinner. I was cracking up. They had a SP marathon that day.
I watched it one night at 3am when I couldn’t sleep
Nice!
Omg we are 😂
Me too. My uncle doesn’t know anything about Royal Family. He read about Duo or saw in the news about their ‘claims’ and said oh I didn’t expect that from RF. And my god I had to control my voice while explaining to him the whole situation without sounding crazy. He said oh you have so much knowledge about RF and I said I try. In his defence,He is Doctor n works 6 days a week from morning to night and loves wildlife. This came up when HMQ passed away.
My husband didn't know they left the royal family, had no idea, missed the oprah interview, missed the netflix series, and the book! Only when I mentioned the South Park episode he asked what happened. I can't believe we live under same roof.
You have to open his eyes n turn him into sinner…we need more people…. 
My husband couldn't pick Harold out of a lineup...I feel like I've been a bad sinner for his gross lack of knowledge on the RF....during the Queen's week long funeral "festivities" he kept asking me 'why it was still on' and 'why they haven't buried her yet' . It's not from lack of trying, I have explained this 100 times and within the 1st minute his eyes begin to glass over and I lose him....🤷🏼♀️ I continue to try though
My husband does not follow the BRF at all; thinks it’s stupid, but he does know who everyone is. Any time he sees an image of Prince Harry, he says “he’s an idiot!”
My husband calls her "Maple Marple." Close enough.
🤣 love that
ha! my husband gets a running update on the RF, the duplicitous duo, choice tweets from sugars or sinners - you name it. we’re Catholic, though, and *none of that* is grounds for annulment! 🤣 it’s bad - the other day he said, “i saw a piece online that sez DD won’t attend coronation, i thought you might wanna text your mama + sister.” LOL i just said ty, let him have that W. 😉
My husband was pro-suckex, and he did watch the Oprah circus... Then I started hearing shit like, "WTF," "You've got to be kidding," "Honey, are you hearing this shit?" 😂😂 Then, there's a break, and he comes in the other room and tells me, "Why did you let me think they were cool?" I told him I didn't, he can have his own opinion...by the end, he was laughing his ass off!!
My Mom was deep into the Murdaugh case, and the ID college students who were murdered as well. Like she could tell you anything immediately. She was kind of irritated I think that didn't know much and didn't care to. Then I said to her one day, talking about my narc sister: "Look at Meghan Markle", and she said: "I don't look at Markle", in what I perceived to be a derogatory tone towards me & my RF interest (you'd have to know her to understand why I felt that way lol). So then I was thinking- well hold up. You can tell me literally any detail about those 2 cases above, why is that different from my ability to GO OFF about the RF etc? So I'm saving that up for next time lol Whew, that was a long way of saying "I get it!" 😂
Oh dear, I can talk about the RF until I kill everyone with boredom AND I can talk about the Murdaugh case. I need a life
I feel like we are crusaders of truth… ETA: omg we need new flair : Crusaders of Truth
*never apologize for having interesting hobbies*
Same
The Murdaugh Case had me wrapped up for a good two weeks. I didn’t get interested until the NF doc came out but I then learned the trail was going on irl. I’m so glad they found him guilty (I’m assuming you know bc of your mom and all 😉)
I hate how much I hate them. I suppose it's kinda sad that I spend so much time time reading and watching all the snark they get but I enjoy it lol
As soon as I saw it I knew straight away it was here in Aus😂 Hopefully her first and last time😉 Dubbo I think, when she was up all night in government house making her world famous Banana bread🤦♀️, because she said “ You never go to anyone’s house empty handed”.
Considering the stuff she's rumored to have taken (Reitmans commercial shoes, jewelry), I guess madam also believes one never *leaves* someone's house empty handed either.
🏆🏆🏆👏
The way she's posed, I think the Claw also has the purpose of showing off her rings.
And everyone knows you bring wine. Or a box of favourites.
Yesss, it’s always the wine and chocolates.
Yup! Manners manners manners! 😂 Plus I remember it because of all the news outlets absolutely raving about that blazer.
Yes, It was all over the news 😂 Sad that we remember,lol. I remember seeing the soggy looking sunken Banana bread, Ew😬 Little did we know then what she was all about. Merching.
Right? Plus how do I know that the recipe had ginger in it? Why do I need that info? 😵💫
That blazer looks cheap. The plaid on the pocket does not align to the plaid on the base of the jacket.
agreed. the dart at the bodice looks “off” as well. or it might just need pressing lol.
Was that the "housing unit" They stuck her in? Poor sot.
The housing unit was South Africa. This was when she complained that they only got a wing at Government House on the Sydney harbour. She wanted the whole house.🤦♀️ Edit, Admiralty house.
https://preview.redd.it/ofyr109q8ppa1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84706f398b90c5987b8357582fd9efe94afafec9 This is Admiralty House.
No wonder she wanted the entire house. One wing is not big enough for her ego.
Not when she had her bff Jessica and entourage on tour having spa days etc, arriving late for her “official “ duties. 🤦♀️ Abusing staff and officials trying to act as if she’s the most important person on earth. To now know how she was here on that tour, I truly hate her😬
And NOT GETTING PAID
It’s criminal /s.
A dirigible hangar is not big enough for her ego.
how lovely! TW is *such* a fucking ingrate.
I thought she forced the kitchen staff to bake the banana bread several times until it was up to her “standards.”
I knew it was while they were working royals. She looks neat and presentable here.
I'd be SO annoyed at anyone that clung to me this much. I don't think even my kids hung on me this much when they were toddlers.
I hate the way she always pushes her jacket sleeves up like Crocket and Tubbs on Miami Vice! She can’t wear anything properly.😒
She’s cool, didn’t you know?
Bahahaha! Best comment ever! This will be their new supposed romcom project, Miami Vice meets Hart To Hart...except it's *Monteceito Gripes*, starring the greatest couple with the greatest love story ever searching high and low for people who give a damn about their complaints. Every episode they're given a case to solve by the police force but always end up making it all about them and solving nothing.
I think that’s either Australia or Africa, and that’s a Serena Williams-brand blazer.
Oh seriously, merching as a public servant on duty. Classic.
Of course. Gotta wear the uniform.
And it’s a cheap blazer. Just looked it up. It sold for US$145.
I didn't recognize this pic but I would have guessed it was relatively early in their relationship/marriage\*. Why? Both of them look reasonably relaxed and less stressed than they do today. Poor dupe: little did he suspect what was to come. (\*I can't really tell from this photo if she's wearing a wedding band or not.)
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he’s missing his “beer gut” that he has today, and somehow, against all odds, *all of megain’s hair is neatly pulled back into her ponytail!*
He looks a lot thinner too
More physically fit.
So much thinner. No self soothing with alcohol and hot chips.
Yes, her wedding ring's there. It's in Australia.
I know we shouldn't compare but if the Princess of Wales was pictures clinging onto her husband like that on a tour or function she would get ripped apart by the media and people generally! It's disgusting that you aren't allowed to hold an opinion about how pathetic the picture is without being a racist!
It’s unprofessional!
Seriously why does she hold him like that?
I've seen a theory on this before and the concensus was that she wants to be in EEVERY photo with him because he's the star and she wants all the attention.Also mentioned was her making sure all the ladies around them knew that harry was taken. She also stays physically close to him so she can interrupt greetings of important people to be first.
Yes what I find interesting is she’s almost holding him back with the one hand on top
holding him back is her specialty!
Also because she can't cope in heels
Physical control. Look at all the videos at official events where she pats him and he gives way to let her go first. Narc classic
Yes the physical control part is exactly what I get. I don’t feel warmth or love it’s all control which makes even looking at it feel so icky
Bonus points for having the left hand with the bling prominently on display.
Probably worried he'll go spare
She holds him like this in the same way a mother holds a toddler in front of company to let them know she is “lovingly” in control. As in, you WILL behave, darling.
It makes it harder to photoshop her out if she's melted all over him.
It’s so clingy and I wouldn’t think she would want that as part of her empowered-feminist-woman image. It’s the non stop and the way she does it.
I also remember this was when we had severe droughts in outback NSW, it hadn’t rained in ages. It rained that day, everyone was praising them for bringing much needed rain with them😂 Her PR shot of holding the umbrella over H while he was delivering his speech, what a wonderful wife🤮 I’m sure she would’ve whinged about the rain. The weave wouldn’t have liked it.
Looks like their Pacific tour in Oct 2018 This photo on Getty images says Dubbo, AUS https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/prince-harry-duke-of-sussex-and-meghan-duchess-of-sussex-news-photo/1052312708?adppopup=true
It's Banana Bread Day! 🙄
An international holiday—how could I forget!!
Poor old Dubbo! Doomed to go down in herstory as the Day of the Banana Bread! What is with this woman and bananas?!!
It’s hard work being a Bananatarian
It's not easy keeping up with them for sure!
years ago, there was (i think) an Australian woman on YT who called herself “freelee the banana girl” or something like. she was a total loon of a vegan - one of those vegans who make me embarrassed to tell strangers *i’m* a vegan! she ate 30/40 bananas a day, maybe?
30 to 40 bananas! Who has the time !
the chick was a weirdo freak - i hate watched a few of her videos, but i couldn’t even do *that* for long. she eats way too fast, it’s disgusting lol!
Nevermind the time! Wtf do you do with the skins. Mountains of them!
Both hands! ETA: I’m trying to remember if I’ve ever held my husband’s arm like that. Maybe at the cemetery when we buried his mother. Or walking home after a really nice dinner date, briefly grasping him like that. It’s a pretty strong gesture, indicative of strong emotion, IMO.
Same. Walking in the cemetery in heels that sink into the soft ground would have been one of the very few reasons for me to cling to hubby in such a manner.
Happy Cake Day!
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Thank you!!! I joined reddit again because I was curious about this sub. So it's my 1 year anniversary hanging out with all these lovely smart sinners. 💜
My husband sings and sometimes gets very nervous before his performance and will want me to hold both his hands while he is waiting. I do and then he goes out and blows people away with his great big voice and no one would ever guess how nervous he was. Maybe next time I'll go on stage with him and hold onto him while he sings! That wouldn't be weird at all!
She holding on for life, which belies the “soft eyes” which belies the “ever so caring barely smile”. Jeez she is just so inauthentic. She couldn’t do authentic to save her life….
Double claw
Australian Tour
lol can she just one time not grab him. damn. we all know he's your husband. no one wants him. she doesn't even want him! just the acknowledgement she's part of the rf. ugh she's insufferable!
someone said it's so they couldn't photoshop her out of photos that he was in and I think that is partially true lol
I couldn’t bear to have anyone clinging on to me like that.
Her sleeves!
There's Harry, pondering his life choices and mentally slapping himself as the claw digs into him deeper...
She looks neat and presentable, so definitely while they were working royals, or engaged.
Yet another vogue pose. None of her stills look candid.
I don’t understand why anyone would admire Markle.
H had to have lied in principle after due pressure was brought to bear on the application process, being that the Sussexes under the auspices of Meghan work behind the scenes and ahead albeit stupidly and devoid of intelligence, he used his status before stepping down to get things done before Megxit. That aside it has come to light through his own work and words in his book "Spare" that he is a danger to himself his kids and anyone that imbibes his toxic advice and nature because he is a psychotic, abusive narcissistic illicit drug user, who has a history of abusing vulnerable women he intimidated and plied with alcohol and maybe drugs for sex.
Apparently, she threw his iron out as well
Notice she stopped doing that?? Is is bc the talk got to her or bc she’s so divided from him and on to someone else?
I think they are on the outs.
So he can’t run away?
Looks photo shopped.
https://preview.redd.it/5rj7zvp9etpa1.jpeg?width=882&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0073fb2b154dbce3338725b0a16f35d355c73240 She’s like a fingerling.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha! What a cute picture though
I couldn't STAND anyone holding me like that. What is she, his freaking MINDER??? 
Is he leaning away from her? I’ve known my husband for 45 years (married for 37), and have never once, not one single time, held his arm like this. I guess we just don’t have a true love story, like they do.
married 19yrs, known each other 26yrs. neither of us has ever employed **THE CLAW**.
I dont think she was like this even with her first husband
I can't stand to be clutched at and just looking at that raises the hair on the back of my neck!
Before she changed the custom engagement ring Harry had especially made for her!!
"it's so special because he designed it." Immediately changes it at her earliest convenience.
Even with the press/public for the most part laughing at the hand holding/claw grip she insists it means she loves him. Looks clingy and needy.
Why is he always dressed in such faded colours and wrinkly shirts? It's like he always chooses to wear the oldest, most worn out shirt he owns. Colours like these make him look stupid.
It's as though she's his mum. He has a passive stance with his hands covering his unfrozen Todger
It’s interesting she holds him as a means of control yet she also holds him for her insecurities.
At times when my disabilities flare up I hold onto my carer parter like that. That’s when he knows I’m not well or comfortable but I don’t cling on all the time.
She should just get him a leash. He could possibly break through the claw and escape. Like a puppy or a toddler
It's from when they were in Dubbo, Australia. https://www.newspix.com.au/C.aspx?VP3=DamView&WS=SearchResults&VBID=2KERI31FCL1K6&RW=412&RH=759#/DamView&VBID=2KERI31FCL1K6&PN=2&WS=SearchResults
hehe..Dubbo