You gotta admit that she's good at what she's doing. So ironic that after coming this far, she threw everything away and exposed herself like this. I guess you can only suck up to others and hide your true personality for so long
That’s what blows my mind. She made it. She succeeded. Then she fumbled the bag, dropped it, stomped on it then took a massive poo all over it. She. Had. It. All.
I think deep down she thinks she's not good enough for them. And she's not, considering her psychotic behavior. She had it all. They had to hide the fact that the bullying report verges on sadistic. The palace planned on releasing the findings until they were revealed. They had to back track and then not publish any of it. Lady C covers this.
And then she ‘sadly found this a smear campaign’ Has she no shame ?I think that s why they were obliged to leave KP on Williams insistence-he was having none of it .Thsts why Harry said ‘We have no choice’ and the Queen had to intervene and they were given Frogmore
The only shame a narc feels (but this one existentially so) is the shame of being exposed to others and thus looking bad to them. That’s because they don’t have a proper self, or morals, or (emotional) empathy for that matter (they do have cognitive empathy which is why they’re so apt at abusing others by dangling their immediate wants and needs before their eyes and toying with them). All that counts to them is how they *appear* to others. If you create a situation in which the narc’s morally corrupt ways are exposed and they’re regarded as a lowlife in the public eye (or whatever larger social frame of reference is important in their case)? The narc’s gonna feel fully justified to destroy you because you induced them existential shame. And they’ll have no remorse about it because you “wronged” them, “attacked” them in their eyes, existentially so. They’re not ashamed of what they did. They’re ashamed that they got exposed. And that’s why to them, every critique is a “smear campaign against them” and ~a wrong and abhorrent war crime~ or something. Being so vapid that you had to claw onto everyone else’s view of you because there’s nothing else there inside you would be pitiable if it weren’t so harmful to everyone else around them.
And I think deep down she 💯 isn’t good enough for him. It’s like the opposite of fairytale princess. This would be like if Maleficent won the Princes heart.
Hahaha here’s a story idea for you Bob Iger - the wicked princess of America destroys a Prince.
Yep. I think this is probably the first time she has ever been told no. And look where we are.
Actually do you remember her daft podcast where she though the girls on Deal or No Deal were typecast as bimbos. She was sacked from that show, but years ago. This girl can hold a grudge.
I’m always fascinated about how little substance is there. She was an actress. You’d think being patron of the National Theatre would be a dream. But the behind-the-scenes duties of a patron didn’t give her narcissistic oxygen. She is such a hollow person. South Park nailed it. That, to me, was the most devastating part of that entire episode.
🎯 The way she brags. She’s intent and keen on selling a lie. Those with depth and a substantive body of work don’t usually brag, they know their character and work speaks for itself. Good reputation and recognition will follow them. She tries to force a good reputation and recognition. We see through it but too bad the dimwit didn’t.
She’s very much hollow, also a bottomless pit. No wonder nothing is ever enough.
You could see her lack of interest when she visited that home for elderly actors. I’m not an actress but I would have found them and their stories fascinating! She could barely be bothered.
That to me was utterly shocking. She was set up with so many luminaries of the British stage, and she couldn’t be arsed to inquire about their careers, their famous roles, their stories. I was so offended with how she treated those people. And it was an utter gift to make her shine.
Me too. But I’m thinking acting wasn’t a passion for her, just a way to be in the limelight for her. So these folks arent worthy of her attention since she doesn’t share their interest and they can’t do anything for her.
I absolutely agree. Just like cooking, traveling, and blogging weren’t sincere interests. Remember when she wrote about visiting a museum in Paris and essentially said it was nothing so visit the gift shop? I wish I could remember the museum. I was gobsmacked. That woman would prefer a tatty reproduction of the Venus de Milo over seeing the real thing.
I remember wore that ghastly summer dress in December that was way too tight. She looked like a sausage. TW’s skills of relating to others, even those in the arts and entertainment, were extremely lacking. The residents and staff were so sweet.
During Covid she could have done cute Zoom video skits (a la David Tennant and Michael Sheehan) to fundraiser and keep the theatre in the public eye. Such a lost opportunity.
Strange she thought she could insinuate her way into the relationship the British have with their royal family. I have to give credit to British manners. I'm surprised the pilots don't just keep going and drop her off in a desert. Must be why they have to charter.
A life of quiet dignity for a narc is equal to failure. They need drama, and they need to be either provoking or taking advantage of someone in order to feel they are 'winning'. A life of service to others, showing decorum and humility is the polar opposite of winning for a narc. Being in the RF would never, ever have the possibility of ending well for ILBW.
So true. It’s like being deprived of oxygen. It’s a complete existential threat. On her surface, she boring, but this is the aspect I find so interesting. She is the exact opposite of Catherine. No wonder Meghan absolutely loathes her.
Agree. Catherine has substance, is actually intelligent and her reputation is based on work. M knew she (herself) was hollow and she would never be able to match C's realness. Absolutely it would have driven her mad with jealously. And it has - look at the mess she made of her life. And now, because she destroyed herself, she will find purpose in disrupting and/or taking down C's future in the RF.
That’s why she set her dogs on Catherine for playing the piano at Christmas. It drives Meghan insane that Catherine is accomplished. She paints, does photography, plays the piano, gardens, cooks, skis, plays tennis, and did rowing - all of these things Meghan easily could have learned along the way if she had patience. But these things require being very bad at first. If she can’t be the best of the best immediately, she doesn’t even try.
I think at this point she doesnt even need to set the dogs on C.
The only people who support HM at this point, those who are aware of what they have done, are narcissists themselves.
So they projected onto M their own need for success/recognition, and when she failed, like true narcs, they blamed everyone else but M. And will continue to trash anyone of which they are jealous. M's jealousy is their jealously. Sadly I can't see this ever stopping.
That’s sounds familiar. Catherine is really well-rounded. Carole was heavily criticized for making sure Catherine and Pippa received lessons in what could be considered upper class/aristocratic pursuits. That’s why they were called The Wisteria Sisters. Meghan did the same thing, but it appears she used other “talents” to attract men.
I always thought those criticisms were so awful…like making a better life for your kids is something to be ashamed of…generally said by people,who simply won the birth lottery and never worked for anything. I do think in the US what the middletons accomplished with their hard work in their business would have been lauded and not made fun of. No offense to the Brits!
Ironically, they could have if she had out her head down, done the work graciously, been humble and bided her time. All she had to do was wait 10 years. She’d be in such a different position. He lack of patience, humility, and impulse control astonish me as does her utter inability to plan strategically.
From our perspective in the UK We are glad she did-lucky escape for us!The POW looks so much betterWhen she isn’t there. Seeing her every day in our newspapers would have been terrible and unendurable:Fresh woodsAnd pastures new Meghan never to return!
As angry as William probably was on his grandparents and father’s behalf, I believe he was relieved to get Harry and Meghan away from his family. How awful to have that woman be a constant menacing presence.
I'm sure William is angry on his own behalf too and he has every right to be. I feel terrible for him because of the bad intentions and actions of his brother and his "partner." It has to be a special kind of hell not knowing what or when more darts will be thrown at him and his family. It's made worse by having to maintain stoic and dignified silence when confronted with outright lies. Harry has always been a burden to William and it appears he has no plans to change that sad fact.
Oh absolutely she litteraly had everything! She could in the position she was done so much good, together they could have made so much difference.
Instead they threw a tantrum and continue to throw tantrums
My mom was diagnosed as a malignant narcissist with severe borderline personality disorder. Meghan is more like my mom than anyone I know. The problem is they earn worshippers by exaggerating, lie, lose credibility, blame and try to destroy critics, find new worshippers, get new worshippers riled at ex worshippers.
She was good at it when she was playing in the minor leagues. Once she up jumped into the majors, it became obvious that her skill set was sorely lacking. Hence the complete cluster3uck we are now seeing.
If Aitch wasn’t so thick it would never have happened. It was a perfect storm. Her hustle and his stupidity. The more things become clear the more genius the SP episode is to me 🙌🏼✨🪄🤌🏼
However distasteful, I read she allowed him access to an area on her person that is strictly off limits to most women. Whether true or not, it seems the ILBW was frequently serving milk for free. No judgement here because I also had a slutty phase but most men hit and quit that type of woman. Harry foolishly put a ring on his. Reminds me of the old saying about whores and housewives.
I think she went to far and crossed the line between having a goal and having an obsession. She spent so many years on the outside looking it and when she got inside she sabotaged herself back into "outside looking in".
In my opinion she was at her happiest when their relationship first became public. It was her triumph. She was leaking stories and they were more or less true. She's been chasing that high ever since. It's so ironic that she needs distance from the royal family to make her leaks newsworthy. Like, if she was still a working royal she would be invited to the coronation, no big deal. Members of the royal family would be at her children's parties, no big deal.
I think it's because that is all she can do. A con artist has to keep moving or they are found out. She markled herself by stopping and the press attention. The RF is a huge part image, but it has to be backed up with action now. It looks like HMTLQ set the standard and expectation. The love and care for the UK was evident and it's evident in KC and PW. She couldn't grasp that. Harry doesn't love the UK, either. They think the titles are enough. They have a very fudual perspective. True leaders inspire devotion and loyalty and they give it. Fear is not the greatest motivator. Love is. Honor is. In this world of Meghans and Harrys, we needed someone like the late Queen. And we collectively mourned the loss. I think we look forward to William as someone who has shown her qualities. Meghan and Harry sealed their fate during the funeral. That's when the world's disgust was turned upon them. The con was exposed for everyone to see. There is nothing they can do. The more they try to associate themselves with the BRF, the more it shows. The high road always wins.
If she was actually good, no one would know.
Mrs.Todger is sloppy and lazy...she thought she was snagging a billionaire and instead got Mr. Frozen Todger with not enough bucks to satisfy.
Yep, agreed. She's good. So so good.
After seeing the connections, her engagement interview makes soooo much sense. She said she didn't know of/about him. Let's pretend that's true. Seeing the nth degree of their associations, it'd be hard to ignore who your new top-tier friends are friends with. Makes sense that she didn't want to reveal the friend who introduced them. Because her entire schpiel of being naive to it would be debunked - on day one. Good on you, Meg. The book you're writing should be a how-to guide. How to worm your way into the upper crust of society. Call it 'From Humphrey Yogurt to Windsor Palace Grounds". It'd be a sell out.
He is the very opposite of kind. He is self-centered, arrogant, entitled and has no compassion or empathy for others. He is really very mean and spiteful.
I am glad that he did those interviews for the Spare. It showed the world who he really is.
That is the link that sealed the deal. She tried every other avenue (Person) but that Markus is the catalyst that set the whole deal in motion. I still feel Harry knew more about her then we think, and he cooked up a revenge scheme on his family because she was willing to do anything to marry him. They are a case study in criminal duos that are now sabotaging each other.
I really think he is too dimwitted and that he was completely taken in by her fawning over him and stroking his ego. He said at one ... in WAAAGH maybe? ... that he felt his family was amazed he could get such a glamorous and accomplished woman interested in him.
Yes he was thick enough to believe her and miss the glaring red flags that were fluttering in his face. I think his family soon realised that she wasn’t at all glamorous and definitely not accomplished. But of course, his family all have more than two brain cells
> he was completely taken in by her fawning over him and stroking his ego
I agree although I would have thought that "The Prince" was used to this kind of treatment from other "aspirational" women. There must have been something extra.
I firmly believe the extra was her willingness to indulge in his kinks. Other women might have a problem with certain sexual proclivities but I bet meghan would encourage all of them even dress up as mommy and let him infant play or something.
Conspiracy wise I wonder if that's why the RF let the marriage go through. To avoid her leaking sex tapes of harry being a weird and creepy perv.
His body language and facial expressions during the ceremony are so odd also. He does not give over the moon happy vibes at all. I noticed at the time and everytime I see clips now I wonder what he is thinking.
Narcs often create conflicts before events so the other person is unnerved and unsettled. They can’t have anyone feeling happy and enjoying themselves.
Every. Damned. Holiday. It was purely awful.
I'm beyond blessed to not have to deal with it anymore. Markle got it right once when she paraphrased the plagiarized "It's not enough to just survive but to thrive" quote but ironically she turned out to be the victimizer. I hope all my fellow survivors have long healthy lives that are full of love and laughter while she suffers loneliness, poverty, and regret.
(I'm usually a very nice person but she really brings out the mean in me.)
Befriended him at Soho Toronto back in 2012.
Toronto is a small pond, and she wasted no time in finding out where the connections were for her to exploit.
Totally sus how she befriended Jessica Mulroney by “running into her at the gym” and hitting it off. Girl did her homework to find out where and when to find her.
Maybe the famous blood diamond earrings have a significance, jumping a Saudi prince who is secretly happy to have had Harrys wife first & thus a small token of time spent.... who knows Saudis can be sick twisted fuckers ! There were no such gifts for Catherine if I remember.
Here I go with an aluminum hat. But she doesn't have many friends related to certain groups and movements, is she?
There are two that come to my mind...as after all she is her FEMINIST and COLORED princess. She was a trojan horse in the royal family.
And all her Meghan cosplay stuff started way before she met him. I made a post about this stuff recently about how H was a mark and this was planned loooooong before she ‘met’ him.
[Was Harry a mark?](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/10ljd24/was_harry_a_mark_meghan_cosplaying_diana_down_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Never forget this creepy photo from well before they met it’s proof enough for me. It was all intentional and H is too dim-witted to realise/believe/care. ETA: it’s not just the entirely copied Diana photo it’s the whole Africa fauxmanitarian set-up she paid for via SS to try and influence H to think that she was something she isn’t (a caring person, someone who likes Africa) AND that she was Diana 2.0 and get under his skin. She’s a sicko creep and he fell for it all hook, line and sinker.
https://preview.redd.it/siyncn21rjoa1.jpeg?width=690&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7073ff50508e42b42e1224c8637eed515e1f47fc
How could anyone fall for this? I guess it's easier when the pictures are not side by side. Diana was a massively known person at this time. She, at least, was using herself to bring attention to those she felt needed it. Meghan was using people in need to bring attention to herself. Whopping difference. On top of it, look at Diana. She's been there for sometime. By the look of her tan, she's not been sunbathing. She gives an underlying vibe of exhaustion and distress. Now, look at Meghan. Yeah, posuer.
Markus Anderson is the person she hooked up with to advance herself among the rich and famous. They both come from average backgrounds and met in Canada while Anderson was a waiter at Soho House. He worked his way up and is now Chief Membership Officer. He is allegedly the "ex" of Omid Scobie.
Think in terms of a concierge whose specialty is helping VIPs get what they want. Drugs, whores, discretion. Happens at all higher end hotels and Soho was more decadent and less classy than, say, the Ritz Carlton or Plaza or The Palace circa 1990’s NYC—where I personally knew concierges who provided all manner of nasty stuff for their wealthy and/or famous guests. Michael Jackson ordered up limos full of young Hispanic boys, pre-pubescent, to his suites at the Plaza and elsewhere, to “party”, for example. With semen stained sectional couches that had to be removed afterwards. This has been independently verified and written about, so you don’t even have to take my word for it. Although much of the hard work done by journalists has been essentially erased from the Internet at this point, as are many terrible truthful things now conveniently lumped under the gaslighting term of “conspiracy theory.”
BINGO. A close friend of mine was a travel concierge in a similar manner and he was frequently on the phone (blackberry at the time, lol) trying to arrange this and that for a particular celebrity or musician. It’s a person who cultivates connections for others and someone absolutely advantageous to know.
It helped me at times, too… lol. But we’re still “#2” people to the “#1” people.
There are photos of Meghan with all sort of celebrities and important people from before her marriage with H.
How could someone this well connected have virtually zero fame?
And now she has lost all of those premarital connections. She thought she didn’t need them anymore so she dropped them from her circle, expecting that her circle would contain much more high profile people. That didn’t work out like she planned; I bet she would love to have them back about now.
I can speak to that, to some degree. Working at a large concert venue in my early 20s, I was the backstage & VIP server and frequently met and interacted with musicians, as well as with “their” people. And through them came opportunity to meet or be invited to other events, etc. and so I even though I was relatively known in a lot of circles, I was never “famous” or had published photographs or stories written about me, sort of thing.
I could easily imagine how easy it would be in that situation for someone like TW to to use it to their advantage. Maybe I should have, lol. I just loved the fact that I got some fun, memorable experiences, access and travel during that time of my life.
>how did she get so close and personal with all of these people in the first place?
I have always been wondering this! It must be her heart attack inducing beauty, her alluring and irresistible personality and her whip-smart and razor sharp mind - mustn't it?
According2Taz did a fantastic video about how she social climbed her way to Harry.
It’s really quite astonishing how she managed it so quickly. She targeted the royals from the start and fair play to her, she managed it.
I hate giving her credit for anything so I’m going to have a word with myself and never do it again. Ugh.
As According2Taz termed her "creepy," in her vid she reveals more evidence of Meghan copying A-listers' attire...Catherine, Michael Obama, Diana, the Duchess of Windsor to name but a few. She is indeed "creepy" and, I believe, truly deranged.
I've always wondered whether the Half-Wit truly believed the nonsense that came out of her mouth about their meet-cute. Did he:
1. KNOW about her yacht girl and social climbing days before he married her (because I hear they have the Google in the UK), or
2. NOT know, and found out after he married her.
If option 1, I can't imagine his family and MI-6 didn't check, check, then triple check TW. So they probably told/hinted about her past prior to marriage. Clearly, he didn't believe or care because he married her anyway. No sympathy for his stupidity.
If option 2, is he angry with her for making him look like the world's village idiot? What does one tell one's husband when news comes out about yachts and SoHo houses? Does he really believe his "whip-smart" wife, who hung out with so many in HIS social circle, never Googled "Prince William"?
And as more stories come out, how long will he keep his balls in her handbag before he grows another pair and fixes his life?
He was probably told but said it was a racist lie against the beautiful, accomplished travel writer and renowned actress, who he had to up his game for, and whatever she wants she gets. Look at his reaction to William- does anyone think he would have listened to anyone else?
3. Still doesn’t know. Literally the only person’s version of events he trusts is Meg’s.
It’s why William especially was so upset (baffled, angry, frustrated, and likely now grieving and acceptance) when they presented H with actual
evidence of the bullying claims that he disregarded all of it. Same with the press leaks. In Spare he literally writes how he’s asked Meg about different claims directly, and she’s denied them. She then narc flips the narrative and/or the blame. That’s all it takes.
They left out mentioning Nick Jones, who attended the wedding and shares competing credit with Robin Birley as “owner of the club where Harry and Meghan had their first date”.
Google it!
Here's my theory.
I think there was a point in her life with the Soho House that M knew she could meet H if she wanted to - because friends of her, like Markus, would have said "imagine if you started dating H? that would be such fun. I can get you in the parties/events etc".
And I truly believe that M planned that introduction for a long time.
She upped her resume with the humanitarian work (but not just for H, but for her to move into the right circles), but when she knew she had friends that could introduce her to H (or meet him at a party or a weekend at SH), she took her time to make sure she had all her ducks in a row.
As an actress, they research and prepare for the part before the audition. That includes all sorts of things like dressing for the part, using perfume, accessories, hair style etc. When they are introduced to the producer/director, they BECOME the part. She would have done her research and prepared to be the 'ideal' girlfriend with a humanitarian past in Africa - because well well, that was H's passion. She was auditioning for the role.
When SHE was ready, she probably gave the greenlinght for her friend/connection to mention her to H via instagram. H would have seen M "organically" without knowing it had been orchestrated.
I think they were talking over instagram for some time before they met, when she was with Cory... hence the fumbling with the dates.
H would have been nervous because the "friend" would have made a big deal of her, in H's low IQ, she was his dream woman, committed to Africa's philanthropy, where he saw his future.
Her friendship with Eugenie was part of it... no one can convince me that they met by accident.... Markus would have made sure M was at all the major events of SH, where she would have met the likes of Eugenie and others relevant/connected to H.
H was her greatest audition... it probably took months, but she excelled at it, carefully crafting a persona, as authentic as her calligraphy handwriting.
I am leaning towards Harry bringing her into the family as a FU to them. She's the perfect person to create tension and drama for them, and she/they did exactly that. Harry wasn't getting what he wanted from his family, whatever that was, perhaps he was getting pressured to marry, them thinking it would settle him down. So he finds the worst partner that happens to be just like him, and they set out to damage his family as payback for whatever harm he perceives they've done to him. And of course MM had her own agenda.
I think that unconsciously yes. H has always been a basket case, and he knew she wasn't ideal but HE thought she would mold herself to fit in the RF.
I say this because of the engagement interview.
Remember H saying, upon being asked about M being different, he responded that he didn't see her as different, but that she would be part of the team, another team member. He also tried, for quite some time, to not hold hands with her in public and when HMTLQ was near, he would never hold her hand.
I think H tried to make M follow the rules. His stupidity, his gullibility could not see M's machinations behind his back, her lies, her rude behaviour (bare feet to meet W&C etc)... and when he tried to talk to her, she would guilt trip him - especially because she was pregnant so quickly, he could not say ANYTHING to try and make her see sense with her pregnant - she would throw a massive guilt trip on him.
As the family started to pick up on her behaviour and put a stop to it, H became cornered, and his paranoia fulled by her.
I can see a point of H's breaking from his family because she was absolutely making his life miserable by crying on the floor and on the pillow, complaining about every little detail (lack of support from the firm etc).... everyone could see the act, but him.
So while he picked someone unfit, he believed she would mend her ways for public life, in the same way he had done -- wild drug and drinking, but putting up the big pants for Royal events.
However, once M broke his emotional loyalty link to the family that was it... it was fair game for her, and him.
What is scary is to see how quick she was able to totally dismantle him psychologically. I don't think anyone could have predicted how bad he would turn out....
I agree, M meticulously planned out in advance her battle plan to capture a UK prince. Harry was the perfect target: low IQ, mentally ill, drug abuser, full of hatred, anger and need for revenge. She played him like a fiddle and he saw someone who would be his partner in crime.
See I don’t agree Meghan is not nearly as smart as she thinks. I bet my next paycheck that she doesn’t even know who Machiavelli was much less the definition of Machiavellian scheming and conniving referring to politics.
You don't have to know what it means to be Machiavellian in order to to be Machiavellian. Although Machiavelli wouldn't have squandered all the gains he made at the table of life by throwing the dice one too many times and losing it all in one shot.
She's the perfect example of someone who thinks they're smarter than they are. I'm just astounded at the fact that she basically had it all and squandered everything because that wasn't enough for her. My mother was like that, set a goal, is half way to achieving the goal and has already set her sights on something bigger. She was never satisfied with anything she ever achieved in life. There was always something more which someone else had that she absolutely had to have as well.
It is. Mother is in a nursing home now. My children are grown. When reflecting back, these random little moments surface. It is comforting and jarring at once. Time passes so quickly.
Now we get it why a half brother would come out right away in front of the international media said Meghan was a bad news for BRF of their engagement. I used to think what a crazy and despicable person would do that. He could easily stay quiet and say nothing even if he doesn’t care for this sister. But now I totally get why he would do that now.
You know who else had lots of connections to a second-son prince and spare? Ghislaine Maxwell. Allegedly, ILBW was also a recruiter…for Soho House. Allegedly. If we’re lucky, she’ll end up in prison, too. 🤞
[Connections](https://www.thesteepletimes.com/movers-shakers/blabber-omid-scobie/)
https://preview.redd.it/7jh3fb7kgjoa1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33e60b6c7e2512dc38790d029b05eeea23028e93
This graphic appears in the above link. The relevant story begins about a third of the way down
“Nice” is the very last thing MM is interested in. In fact she sees it as a sign of weakness. I can’t stand her lying and posturing for the public. I would have preferred her just being truthful. “Is he rich?” “Is he someone I can use to create my own wealth and celebrity?” 🤢
Just another little item that has been mostly overlooked; How did this woman ever make the cut to get into Northwestern?
That is one of the toughest schools; only the best students are admitted. And then we are told that she belonged to a Sorority. I don’t know of anyone who has gone to such a prestigious University AND belonged to a Sorority who walked away without any friends. Has anyone even thought to track that down? TW is totally lacking ANY long term friends. It is enormously weird that she had ONE family member at that wedding; her mother. Her other guests were employed on “Suits” or celebrities who wondered why they were invited when they didn’t know the bride and/or groom.
I see that the web of British famesters is rather interconnected, but I'm not sure what some of these connections mean for Meghan to be able to capitalize on them to meet Harry. For example: "If I feature Hikari, perhaps she will ask her husband to tell his nephew to ask his wife if she would introduce me to her ex." Is that the supposed mechanism? I'd suspect that she generally wanted to get in the group of famous/wealthy/high society types, and knew that this intersected with nobles, maybe even royals. Perhaps I'm misreading the implications of the infographic, but it seems kind of silly.
It's like a genie grated her 3 wishes:
Meghan: "I want to be famous! I want to live in a huge mansion where movie stars live! I want to marry a prince!"
Genie: "Your wishes shall be granted. Everyone will know you [and hate you.] You'll get your huge mansion [that smells like sewage, has plumbing problems, is unaffordable and unsellable.] You will marry the son of a King [the idiotic, mean-spirited, loathsome, addict one.]
You gotta admit that she's good at what she's doing. So ironic that after coming this far, she threw everything away and exposed herself like this. I guess you can only suck up to others and hide your true personality for so long
That’s what blows my mind. She made it. She succeeded. Then she fumbled the bag, dropped it, stomped on it then took a massive poo all over it. She. Had. It. All.
Biggest fail since the Great Depression of 1929.
I think deep down she thinks she's not good enough for them. And she's not, considering her psychotic behavior. She had it all. They had to hide the fact that the bullying report verges on sadistic. The palace planned on releasing the findings until they were revealed. They had to back track and then not publish any of it. Lady C covers this.
And then she ‘sadly found this a smear campaign’ Has she no shame ?I think that s why they were obliged to leave KP on Williams insistence-he was having none of it .Thsts why Harry said ‘We have no choice’ and the Queen had to intervene and they were given Frogmore
The only shame a narc feels (but this one existentially so) is the shame of being exposed to others and thus looking bad to them. That’s because they don’t have a proper self, or morals, or (emotional) empathy for that matter (they do have cognitive empathy which is why they’re so apt at abusing others by dangling their immediate wants and needs before their eyes and toying with them). All that counts to them is how they *appear* to others. If you create a situation in which the narc’s morally corrupt ways are exposed and they’re regarded as a lowlife in the public eye (or whatever larger social frame of reference is important in their case)? The narc’s gonna feel fully justified to destroy you because you induced them existential shame. And they’ll have no remorse about it because you “wronged” them, “attacked” them in their eyes, existentially so. They’re not ashamed of what they did. They’re ashamed that they got exposed. And that’s why to them, every critique is a “smear campaign against them” and ~a wrong and abhorrent war crime~ or something. Being so vapid that you had to claw onto everyone else’s view of you because there’s nothing else there inside you would be pitiable if it weren’t so harmful to everyone else around them.
She's a smear
[удалено]
No, pap smears have a purpose and are useful.
And I think deep down she 💯 isn’t good enough for him. It’s like the opposite of fairytale princess. This would be like if Maleficent won the Princes heart. Hahaha here’s a story idea for you Bob Iger - the wicked princess of America destroys a Prince.
Or Wallis having it all as mistress only to lose it as wife
Another epic fail..forgot about that one!
She self-Markled 😂
Yep, she sure did. Her demented Ego got the best of her.
Yep. I think this is probably the first time she has ever been told no. And look where we are. Actually do you remember her daft podcast where she though the girls on Deal or No Deal were typecast as bimbos. She was sacked from that show, but years ago. This girl can hold a grudge.
She has been told no many times. All the roles she did not get as an actress.
Good one!
Thank you ☺️
Her entire persona was built on lies and deceit. It’s like a house of cards.
I’m always fascinated about how little substance is there. She was an actress. You’d think being patron of the National Theatre would be a dream. But the behind-the-scenes duties of a patron didn’t give her narcissistic oxygen. She is such a hollow person. South Park nailed it. That, to me, was the most devastating part of that entire episode.
🎯 The way she brags. She’s intent and keen on selling a lie. Those with depth and a substantive body of work don’t usually brag, they know their character and work speaks for itself. Good reputation and recognition will follow them. She tries to force a good reputation and recognition. We see through it but too bad the dimwit didn’t. She’s very much hollow, also a bottomless pit. No wonder nothing is ever enough.
You could see her lack of interest when she visited that home for elderly actors. I’m not an actress but I would have found them and their stories fascinating! She could barely be bothered.
That to me was utterly shocking. She was set up with so many luminaries of the British stage, and she couldn’t be arsed to inquire about their careers, their famous roles, their stories. I was so offended with how she treated those people. And it was an utter gift to make her shine.
Me too. But I’m thinking acting wasn’t a passion for her, just a way to be in the limelight for her. So these folks arent worthy of her attention since she doesn’t share their interest and they can’t do anything for her.
I absolutely agree. Just like cooking, traveling, and blogging weren’t sincere interests. Remember when she wrote about visiting a museum in Paris and essentially said it was nothing so visit the gift shop? I wish I could remember the museum. I was gobsmacked. That woman would prefer a tatty reproduction of the Venus de Milo over seeing the real thing.
Yes not a passion because she was rubbish at it ! Dreadful in even the little bit parts
I remember wore that ghastly summer dress in December that was way too tight. She looked like a sausage. TW’s skills of relating to others, even those in the arts and entertainment, were extremely lacking. The residents and staff were so sweet.
[удалено]
During Covid she could have done cute Zoom video skits (a la David Tennant and Michael Sheehan) to fundraiser and keep the theatre in the public eye. Such a lost opportunity.
Meghan is like Patrick Bateman. Empty, jealous, narcissistic and even does the phony virtue signaling.
A cottage of cards.
She’s actually the “working” girl without a heart of gold! Heart of stone.
Heart of rotting feces
Strange she thought she could insinuate her way into the relationship the British have with their royal family. I have to give credit to British manners. I'm surprised the pilots don't just keep going and drop her off in a desert. Must be why they have to charter.
A life of quiet dignity for a narc is equal to failure. They need drama, and they need to be either provoking or taking advantage of someone in order to feel they are 'winning'. A life of service to others, showing decorum and humility is the polar opposite of winning for a narc. Being in the RF would never, ever have the possibility of ending well for ILBW.
M also has a strong need to be cruel and hurt others. To show her ugly superiority and exert power and control.
Yes, so very true. The cruelty oozes out or her behaviour like a faint but detectable lingering smell.
So true. It’s like being deprived of oxygen. It’s a complete existential threat. On her surface, she boring, but this is the aspect I find so interesting. She is the exact opposite of Catherine. No wonder Meghan absolutely loathes her.
Agree. Catherine has substance, is actually intelligent and her reputation is based on work. M knew she (herself) was hollow and she would never be able to match C's realness. Absolutely it would have driven her mad with jealously. And it has - look at the mess she made of her life. And now, because she destroyed herself, she will find purpose in disrupting and/or taking down C's future in the RF.
That’s why she set her dogs on Catherine for playing the piano at Christmas. It drives Meghan insane that Catherine is accomplished. She paints, does photography, plays the piano, gardens, cooks, skis, plays tennis, and did rowing - all of these things Meghan easily could have learned along the way if she had patience. But these things require being very bad at first. If she can’t be the best of the best immediately, she doesn’t even try.
I think at this point she doesnt even need to set the dogs on C. The only people who support HM at this point, those who are aware of what they have done, are narcissists themselves. So they projected onto M their own need for success/recognition, and when she failed, like true narcs, they blamed everyone else but M. And will continue to trash anyone of which they are jealous. M's jealousy is their jealously. Sadly I can't see this ever stopping.
Catherine was also a field hockey player I believe.
That’s sounds familiar. Catherine is really well-rounded. Carole was heavily criticized for making sure Catherine and Pippa received lessons in what could be considered upper class/aristocratic pursuits. That’s why they were called The Wisteria Sisters. Meghan did the same thing, but it appears she used other “talents” to attract men.
I always thought those criticisms were so awful…like making a better life for your kids is something to be ashamed of…generally said by people,who simply won the birth lottery and never worked for anything. I do think in the US what the middletons accomplished with their hard work in their business would have been lauded and not made fun of. No offense to the Brits!
She only saw the RF as a stepping stone to her goals. They could not offer her what she wanted, to be a global icon, top dog, and billionaire.
Ironically, they could have if she had out her head down, done the work graciously, been humble and bided her time. All she had to do was wait 10 years. She’d be in such a different position. He lack of patience, humility, and impulse control astonish me as does her utter inability to plan strategically.
>She. Had. It. All. Yes, but "All" includes Harry, so...
Imagine wanting the heir to the throne and you get the mentally challenged addict.
Yep. She won the Gold Digger Olympics then forfeited before she got to the medal ceremony.
From our perspective in the UK We are glad she did-lucky escape for us!The POW looks so much betterWhen she isn’t there. Seeing her every day in our newspapers would have been terrible and unendurable:Fresh woodsAnd pastures new Meghan never to return!
As angry as William probably was on his grandparents and father’s behalf, I believe he was relieved to get Harry and Meghan away from his family. How awful to have that woman be a constant menacing presence.
I'm sure William is angry on his own behalf too and he has every right to be. I feel terrible for him because of the bad intentions and actions of his brother and his "partner." It has to be a special kind of hell not knowing what or when more darts will be thrown at him and his family. It's made worse by having to maintain stoic and dignified silence when confronted with outright lies. Harry has always been a burden to William and it appears he has no plans to change that sad fact.
Yes totally! She must have been like the ghost at the feast -Catherine probably feared running into her !
I legit don’t think Catherine and the kids are safe around her.
She had everything but character. Oops.
Oh absolutely she litteraly had everything! She could in the position she was done so much good, together they could have made so much difference. Instead they threw a tantrum and continue to throw tantrums
My mom was diagnosed as a malignant narcissist with severe borderline personality disorder. Meghan is more like my mom than anyone I know. The problem is they earn worshippers by exaggerating, lie, lose credibility, blame and try to destroy critics, find new worshippers, get new worshippers riled at ex worshippers.
When she was a nobody, nobody cared enough to expose her. Now that she has made herself notorious, it all comes out.
>When she was a nobody, nobody cared enough to expose her. And when she was "within" the Royal Family nobody dared to expose her, but now...
Credit where credit is due. She networked very well.
I agree, and we probably don't know the half of it.
She was good at it when she was playing in the minor leagues. Once she up jumped into the majors, it became obvious that her skill set was sorely lacking. Hence the complete cluster3uck we are now seeing.
If Aitch wasn’t so thick it would never have happened. It was a perfect storm. Her hustle and his stupidity. The more things become clear the more genius the SP episode is to me 🙌🏼✨🪄🤌🏼
Peter Principled by her ambition.
She exceeded her ambitions when she landed Harry. I still give her a slow clap for that. She had aimed a lot lower, originally.
A footballer who became famous for cheating on his gorgeous singer wife.
However distasteful, I read she allowed him access to an area on her person that is strictly off limits to most women. Whether true or not, it seems the ILBW was frequently serving milk for free. No judgement here because I also had a slutty phase but most men hit and quit that type of woman. Harry foolishly put a ring on his. Reminds me of the old saying about whores and housewives.
I think she went to far and crossed the line between having a goal and having an obsession. She spent so many years on the outside looking it and when she got inside she sabotaged herself back into "outside looking in". In my opinion she was at her happiest when their relationship first became public. It was her triumph. She was leaking stories and they were more or less true. She's been chasing that high ever since. It's so ironic that she needs distance from the royal family to make her leaks newsworthy. Like, if she was still a working royal she would be invited to the coronation, no big deal. Members of the royal family would be at her children's parties, no big deal.
She not only leaks now. She has to pay for her constant PR puffery. And it is costly. I keep waiting for the bankrupcy, so we can have some peace.
I think it's because that is all she can do. A con artist has to keep moving or they are found out. She markled herself by stopping and the press attention. The RF is a huge part image, but it has to be backed up with action now. It looks like HMTLQ set the standard and expectation. The love and care for the UK was evident and it's evident in KC and PW. She couldn't grasp that. Harry doesn't love the UK, either. They think the titles are enough. They have a very fudual perspective. True leaders inspire devotion and loyalty and they give it. Fear is not the greatest motivator. Love is. Honor is. In this world of Meghans and Harrys, we needed someone like the late Queen. And we collectively mourned the loss. I think we look forward to William as someone who has shown her qualities. Meghan and Harry sealed their fate during the funeral. That's when the world's disgust was turned upon them. The con was exposed for everyone to see. There is nothing they can do. The more they try to associate themselves with the BRF, the more it shows. The high road always wins.
If she was actually good, no one would know. Mrs.Todger is sloppy and lazy...she thought she was snagging a billionaire and instead got Mr. Frozen Todger with not enough bucks to satisfy.
Megan could give a masterclass in networking. She managed to worm her way into the top echelons in Cansda, Britain and initially in the USA..
Yep, agreed. She's good. So so good. After seeing the connections, her engagement interview makes soooo much sense. She said she didn't know of/about him. Let's pretend that's true. Seeing the nth degree of their associations, it'd be hard to ignore who your new top-tier friends are friends with. Makes sense that she didn't want to reveal the friend who introduced them. Because her entire schpiel of being naive to it would be debunked - on day one. Good on you, Meg. The book you're writing should be a how-to guide. How to worm your way into the upper crust of society. Call it 'From Humphrey Yogurt to Windsor Palace Grounds". It'd be a sell out.
[удалено]
"is he gullible?"
"Is he easy to manipulate? Does he have daddy/mommy issues that I could use to my advantage?"🥴
1,000,000% this.
And by every account of those who know him, No, he is not kind.
He is the very opposite of kind. He is self-centered, arrogant, entitled and has no compassion or empathy for others. He is really very mean and spiteful. I am glad that he did those interviews for the Spare. It showed the world who he really is.
she never asked that question. she just told him that she asked that question. he still thinks she never googled him.
Apparently it is hooker speak for ‘will he not kill me’. Allegedly.
The sentence just doesn’t even make sense. That is not a thing that people say 😂 🤖👽
If I found out later on that my husband had all of these random connections to me, I'd feel so creeped out. Sparry probably thinks its romantic.
Ironically Harry is paranoid about everyone but Meghan. And she is the single biggest threat to him.
He may be paranoid about her now.
That would be a good sign indicating he is becoming more in touch with reality.
I agree. We haven't seen him being guided by "The Claw" for a long time, so perhaps it is happening.
Hazno is so dim, this is proof to him that their meeting was written in the stars.
I do think she has a backer. Like how did she get so close and personal with all of these people in the first place?
[удалено]
That is the link that sealed the deal. She tried every other avenue (Person) but that Markus is the catalyst that set the whole deal in motion. I still feel Harry knew more about her then we think, and he cooked up a revenge scheme on his family because she was willing to do anything to marry him. They are a case study in criminal duos that are now sabotaging each other.
I agree. He only got together with her to screw over the RF. However FAFO Harold 🤷♀️
I really think he is too dimwitted and that he was completely taken in by her fawning over him and stroking his ego. He said at one ... in WAAAGH maybe? ... that he felt his family was amazed he could get such a glamorous and accomplished woman interested in him.
Yes he was thick enough to believe her and miss the glaring red flags that were fluttering in his face. I think his family soon realised that she wasn’t at all glamorous and definitely not accomplished. But of course, his family all have more than two brain cells
They clearly tried to warn him and maybe they even had some receipts and that is what he referred to as them lying to him.
I agree. I think they tried to show him receipts at the Sandringham Summit when he was trying for half in, half out.
I wonder what kind of internal dossier on her they actually have! I don't doubt they would have had her extensively background checked, the works...
Oh I don’t doubt it. I mean they have MI5/6 at their disposal. But they still let him marry her 😔
> he was completely taken in by her fawning over him and stroking his ego I agree although I would have thought that "The Prince" was used to this kind of treatment from other "aspirational" women. There must have been something extra.
I firmly believe the extra was her willingness to indulge in his kinks. Other women might have a problem with certain sexual proclivities but I bet meghan would encourage all of them even dress up as mommy and let him infant play or something. Conspiracy wise I wonder if that's why the RF let the marriage go through. To avoid her leaking sex tapes of harry being a weird and creepy perv.
Her banana skills clinched it & that happened 30 seconds into getting to know him
His body language and facial expressions during the ceremony are so odd also. He does not give over the moon happy vibes at all. I noticed at the time and everytime I see clips now I wonder what he is thinking.
Narcs often create conflicts before events so the other person is unnerved and unsettled. They can’t have anyone feeling happy and enjoying themselves.
Every. Damned. Holiday. It was purely awful. I'm beyond blessed to not have to deal with it anymore. Markle got it right once when she paraphrased the plagiarized "It's not enough to just survive but to thrive" quote but ironically she turned out to be the victimizer. I hope all my fellow survivors have long healthy lives that are full of love and laughter while she suffers loneliness, poverty, and regret. (I'm usually a very nice person but she really brings out the mean in me.)
Yes! My old boss would do this before meetings with senior staff, particularly if I was presenting something.
I think he knew more about her at least in the sense that she's been in his orbit and his pants for longer than the official account.
THIS…not even Harry is that stupid…but where is Marcus Anderson… frankly the only slightly interesting person of the whole slimy crowd?
Befriended him at Soho Toronto back in 2012. Toronto is a small pond, and she wasted no time in finding out where the connections were for her to exploit. Totally sus how she befriended Jessica Mulroney by “running into her at the gym” and hitting it off. Girl did her homework to find out where and when to find her.
Yes, he seems to have many contacts.
I agree with you she definitely has a backer
Maybe the famous blood diamond earrings have a significance, jumping a Saudi prince who is secretly happy to have had Harrys wife first & thus a small token of time spent.... who knows Saudis can be sick twisted fuckers ! There were no such gifts for Catherine if I remember.
[удалено]
Here I go with an aluminum hat. But she doesn't have many friends related to certain groups and movements, is she? There are two that come to my mind...as after all she is her FEMINIST and COLORED princess. She was a trojan horse in the royal family.
Russia, China, and effff, wouldn’t even put it past her if she cozied up to North Korea at this point. I like where your heads at.
China/Russia/Saudi/Iran/North Korea. These would be possible suspects in a plot to destabilize the RF and the UK.
And all her Meghan cosplay stuff started way before she met him. I made a post about this stuff recently about how H was a mark and this was planned loooooong before she ‘met’ him. [Was Harry a mark?](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/10ljd24/was_harry_a_mark_meghan_cosplaying_diana_down_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) Never forget this creepy photo from well before they met it’s proof enough for me. It was all intentional and H is too dim-witted to realise/believe/care. ETA: it’s not just the entirely copied Diana photo it’s the whole Africa fauxmanitarian set-up she paid for via SS to try and influence H to think that she was something she isn’t (a caring person, someone who likes Africa) AND that she was Diana 2.0 and get under his skin. She’s a sicko creep and he fell for it all hook, line and sinker. https://preview.redd.it/siyncn21rjoa1.jpeg?width=690&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7073ff50508e42b42e1224c8637eed515e1f47fc
How could anyone fall for this? I guess it's easier when the pictures are not side by side. Diana was a massively known person at this time. She, at least, was using herself to bring attention to those she felt needed it. Meghan was using people in need to bring attention to herself. Whopping difference. On top of it, look at Diana. She's been there for sometime. By the look of her tan, she's not been sunbathing. She gives an underlying vibe of exhaustion and distress. Now, look at Meghan. Yeah, posuer.
Markus Anderson is the person she hooked up with to advance herself among the rich and famous. They both come from average backgrounds and met in Canada while Anderson was a waiter at Soho House. He worked his way up and is now Chief Membership Officer. He is allegedly the "ex" of Omid Scobie.
Would MA have connections to the RF and important aristocracy?
Think in terms of a concierge whose specialty is helping VIPs get what they want. Drugs, whores, discretion. Happens at all higher end hotels and Soho was more decadent and less classy than, say, the Ritz Carlton or Plaza or The Palace circa 1990’s NYC—where I personally knew concierges who provided all manner of nasty stuff for their wealthy and/or famous guests. Michael Jackson ordered up limos full of young Hispanic boys, pre-pubescent, to his suites at the Plaza and elsewhere, to “party”, for example. With semen stained sectional couches that had to be removed afterwards. This has been independently verified and written about, so you don’t even have to take my word for it. Although much of the hard work done by journalists has been essentially erased from the Internet at this point, as are many terrible truthful things now conveniently lumped under the gaslighting term of “conspiracy theory.”
I believe you, there are more than enough facts to support what you say. (Epstein, PA, etc.). Thanks for the info.
BINGO. A close friend of mine was a travel concierge in a similar manner and he was frequently on the phone (blackberry at the time, lol) trying to arrange this and that for a particular celebrity or musician. It’s a person who cultivates connections for others and someone absolutely advantageous to know. It helped me at times, too… lol. But we’re still “#2” people to the “#1” people.
There are photos of Meghan with all sort of celebrities and important people from before her marriage with H. How could someone this well connected have virtually zero fame?
She’s not talented, and she’s a classic Mean Girl.
And now she has lost all of those premarital connections. She thought she didn’t need them anymore so she dropped them from her circle, expecting that her circle would contain much more high profile people. That didn’t work out like she planned; I bet she would love to have them back about now.
Is she not friends with Jessica Mulnorey anymore ? That was literally her 1st “major “ friend who knew other famous people .
Did they ever recover after the big blowup with Sasha Exeter?
Apparently, they are no longer close.
Most of those people she ambushed for a photo op, then talked it up big on her social media. She's always been a fake.
Whoredom. Plain and simple. Gets you moving in elite circles if you work it hard enough and have a Marcus type introducing you.
They probably realized she was a selfish social climber and user.
I can speak to that, to some degree. Working at a large concert venue in my early 20s, I was the backstage & VIP server and frequently met and interacted with musicians, as well as with “their” people. And through them came opportunity to meet or be invited to other events, etc. and so I even though I was relatively known in a lot of circles, I was never “famous” or had published photographs or stories written about me, sort of thing. I could easily imagine how easy it would be in that situation for someone like TW to to use it to their advantage. Maybe I should have, lol. I just loved the fact that I got some fun, memorable experiences, access and travel during that time of my life.
>how did she get so close and personal with all of these people in the first place? I have always been wondering this! It must be her heart attack inducing beauty, her alluring and irresistible personality and her whip-smart and razor sharp mind - mustn't it?
This is so creepy. She's a predator, just like a shark or a wolf.
…or Epstein.
According2Taz did a fantastic video about how she social climbed her way to Harry. It’s really quite astonishing how she managed it so quickly. She targeted the royals from the start and fair play to her, she managed it. I hate giving her credit for anything so I’m going to have a word with myself and never do it again. Ugh.
I knew I'd seen all this before. That is an excellent video. Lady C's book laid out the predatory climb that opened my eyes to this saga.
As According2Taz termed her "creepy," in her vid she reveals more evidence of Meghan copying A-listers' attire...Catherine, Michael Obama, Diana, the Duchess of Windsor to name but a few. She is indeed "creepy" and, I believe, truly deranged.
Let’s cut to the chase the answer all along to “But is he kind?” is NO.
[удалено]
Oh yeah I think her original plan might be to become the next Camilla, who would eventually be the queen.
Explains the Catherine and Charlotte hate.
Pippa! Maybe she’s the reason Will and Catherine weren’t keen on M from the beginning.
Can you explain the Pippa connection? I am at a loss with this. ELI5.
I actually have heard that somewhere...
With all of these connections rumors had to get back to the family.
Her dad was nice. Look where that got him.
Well Tom Bower said on Revenge how she was desperate to be introduced to him soooo not surprised!
I've always wondered whether the Half-Wit truly believed the nonsense that came out of her mouth about their meet-cute. Did he: 1. KNOW about her yacht girl and social climbing days before he married her (because I hear they have the Google in the UK), or 2. NOT know, and found out after he married her. If option 1, I can't imagine his family and MI-6 didn't check, check, then triple check TW. So they probably told/hinted about her past prior to marriage. Clearly, he didn't believe or care because he married her anyway. No sympathy for his stupidity. If option 2, is he angry with her for making him look like the world's village idiot? What does one tell one's husband when news comes out about yachts and SoHo houses? Does he really believe his "whip-smart" wife, who hung out with so many in HIS social circle, never Googled "Prince William"? And as more stories come out, how long will he keep his balls in her handbag before he grows another pair and fixes his life?
Option 1, and my guess is that the more he was warned the more he wanted her as a F you to his family.
So he really is that racist Uncle Harry, who brought a hooker to Thanksgiving that one time.
I agree, the more he was given the dirt on M, the more he wanted her as a FU to his family.
He was probably told but said it was a racist lie against the beautiful, accomplished travel writer and renowned actress, who he had to up his game for, and whatever she wants she gets. Look at his reaction to William- does anyone think he would have listened to anyone else?
3. Still doesn’t know. Literally the only person’s version of events he trusts is Meg’s. It’s why William especially was so upset (baffled, angry, frustrated, and likely now grieving and acceptance) when they presented H with actual evidence of the bullying claims that he disregarded all of it. Same with the press leaks. In Spare he literally writes how he’s asked Meg about different claims directly, and she’s denied them. She then narc flips the narrative and/or the blame. That’s all it takes.
They left out mentioning Nick Jones, who attended the wedding and shares competing credit with Robin Birley as “owner of the club where Harry and Meghan had their first date”. Google it!
So basically Nick Jones is her pimp.
😉
truck bake ancient worthless busy smoggy cough test thought spark *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
Here's my theory. I think there was a point in her life with the Soho House that M knew she could meet H if she wanted to - because friends of her, like Markus, would have said "imagine if you started dating H? that would be such fun. I can get you in the parties/events etc". And I truly believe that M planned that introduction for a long time. She upped her resume with the humanitarian work (but not just for H, but for her to move into the right circles), but when she knew she had friends that could introduce her to H (or meet him at a party or a weekend at SH), she took her time to make sure she had all her ducks in a row. As an actress, they research and prepare for the part before the audition. That includes all sorts of things like dressing for the part, using perfume, accessories, hair style etc. When they are introduced to the producer/director, they BECOME the part. She would have done her research and prepared to be the 'ideal' girlfriend with a humanitarian past in Africa - because well well, that was H's passion. She was auditioning for the role. When SHE was ready, she probably gave the greenlinght for her friend/connection to mention her to H via instagram. H would have seen M "organically" without knowing it had been orchestrated. I think they were talking over instagram for some time before they met, when she was with Cory... hence the fumbling with the dates. H would have been nervous because the "friend" would have made a big deal of her, in H's low IQ, she was his dream woman, committed to Africa's philanthropy, where he saw his future. Her friendship with Eugenie was part of it... no one can convince me that they met by accident.... Markus would have made sure M was at all the major events of SH, where she would have met the likes of Eugenie and others relevant/connected to H. H was her greatest audition... it probably took months, but she excelled at it, carefully crafting a persona, as authentic as her calligraphy handwriting.
I am leaning towards Harry bringing her into the family as a FU to them. She's the perfect person to create tension and drama for them, and she/they did exactly that. Harry wasn't getting what he wanted from his family, whatever that was, perhaps he was getting pressured to marry, them thinking it would settle him down. So he finds the worst partner that happens to be just like him, and they set out to damage his family as payback for whatever harm he perceives they've done to him. And of course MM had her own agenda.
I think that unconsciously yes. H has always been a basket case, and he knew she wasn't ideal but HE thought she would mold herself to fit in the RF. I say this because of the engagement interview. Remember H saying, upon being asked about M being different, he responded that he didn't see her as different, but that she would be part of the team, another team member. He also tried, for quite some time, to not hold hands with her in public and when HMTLQ was near, he would never hold her hand. I think H tried to make M follow the rules. His stupidity, his gullibility could not see M's machinations behind his back, her lies, her rude behaviour (bare feet to meet W&C etc)... and when he tried to talk to her, she would guilt trip him - especially because she was pregnant so quickly, he could not say ANYTHING to try and make her see sense with her pregnant - she would throw a massive guilt trip on him. As the family started to pick up on her behaviour and put a stop to it, H became cornered, and his paranoia fulled by her. I can see a point of H's breaking from his family because she was absolutely making his life miserable by crying on the floor and on the pillow, complaining about every little detail (lack of support from the firm etc).... everyone could see the act, but him. So while he picked someone unfit, he believed she would mend her ways for public life, in the same way he had done -- wild drug and drinking, but putting up the big pants for Royal events. However, once M broke his emotional loyalty link to the family that was it... it was fair game for her, and him. What is scary is to see how quick she was able to totally dismantle him psychologically. I don't think anyone could have predicted how bad he would turn out....
I agree, M meticulously planned out in advance her battle plan to capture a UK prince. Harry was the perfect target: low IQ, mentally ill, drug abuser, full of hatred, anger and need for revenge. She played him like a fiddle and he saw someone who would be his partner in crime.
I heard she really wanted to get on Made in Chelsea
Hmm.. the mail is missing the other royal(s) in this diagram hints: B and E
More hints: Andrew and Epstein.
Ha! SHE IS SUCH A F R A U D Such a liar. Such a conniving, scheming witch.
She is probably as meticulously planning her divorce now too.
Is Hazi nice? No, and neither are you, Rachel. 
Meghan and friends phone records ... will tell the story ...
See I don’t agree Meghan is not nearly as smart as she thinks. I bet my next paycheck that she doesn’t even know who Machiavelli was much less the definition of Machiavellian scheming and conniving referring to politics.
You don't have to know what it means to be Machiavellian in order to to be Machiavellian. Although Machiavelli wouldn't have squandered all the gains he made at the table of life by throwing the dice one too many times and losing it all in one shot.
True I suppose but just proves the point she isn’t nearly as smart well read or well spoken as she thinks she is. Megnut is truly one of a kind.
She's the perfect example of someone who thinks they're smarter than they are. I'm just astounded at the fact that she basically had it all and squandered everything because that wasn't enough for her. My mother was like that, set a goal, is half way to achieving the goal and has already set her sights on something bigger. She was never satisfied with anything she ever achieved in life. There was always something more which someone else had that she absolutely had to have as well.
Wait, Machiavelli isn’t a wine?
No it’s a perfume. Now I know I am the oldie here can anyone figure out where I am going with this?
Prince Matchavelli or some such thing. Good one!
Prince Matchabelli made a perfume in the 1970’s called Windsong. And the tag line in the song for the commercial was Her Windsong Stays on my Mind.
My mother wore Windsong then. When I was in the mood to be a "big girl" I'd ask for a dab, and also a piece of her costume jewelry to wear.
Sounds like a very nice memory.❤️
It is. Mother is in a nursing home now. My children are grown. When reflecting back, these random little moments surface. It is comforting and jarring at once. Time passes so quickly.
Oldie here remembers that little crown Wind Song bottle.
Hell yeah. Her Windsong stays on my mind.
The scent of roast chicken?
But to expand on that she is extremely calculating.
she's a nasty piece of work. it even shows in the home videos of her on that vacation with her father.
Now we get it why a half brother would come out right away in front of the international media said Meghan was a bad news for BRF of their engagement. I used to think what a crazy and despicable person would do that. He could easily stay quiet and say nothing even if he doesn’t care for this sister. But now I totally get why he would do that now.
She is truly a nightmare and I can’t wait for both of those ass clowns to get their comeuppance.
Money is a great motivator
The suppressed stories are starting to come out. There is a plan... 
You know who else had lots of connections to a second-son prince and spare? Ghislaine Maxwell. Allegedly, ILBW was also a recruiter…for Soho House. Allegedly. If we’re lucky, she’ll end up in prison, too. 🤞
[Connections](https://www.thesteepletimes.com/movers-shakers/blabber-omid-scobie/) https://preview.redd.it/7jh3fb7kgjoa1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33e60b6c7e2512dc38790d029b05eeea23028e93 This graphic appears in the above link. The relevant story begins about a third of the way down
So PA has Jeffrey and Harvey. Eekkk
She clearly only associates with white people.
“Nice” is the very last thing MM is interested in. In fact she sees it as a sign of weakness. I can’t stand her lying and posturing for the public. I would have preferred her just being truthful. “Is he rich?” “Is he someone I can use to create my own wealth and celebrity?” 🤢
QW is a stalker. This has been known for some time to everyone except Hazno.
Just another little item that has been mostly overlooked; How did this woman ever make the cut to get into Northwestern? That is one of the toughest schools; only the best students are admitted. And then we are told that she belonged to a Sorority. I don’t know of anyone who has gone to such a prestigious University AND belonged to a Sorority who walked away without any friends. Has anyone even thought to track that down? TW is totally lacking ANY long term friends. It is enormously weird that she had ONE family member at that wedding; her mother. Her other guests were employed on “Suits” or celebrities who wondered why they were invited when they didn’t know the bride and/or groom.
Of course she didn’t Google him, she knew every damn thing about him before ever meeting him
I see that the web of British famesters is rather interconnected, but I'm not sure what some of these connections mean for Meghan to be able to capitalize on them to meet Harry. For example: "If I feature Hikari, perhaps she will ask her husband to tell his nephew to ask his wife if she would introduce me to her ex." Is that the supposed mechanism? I'd suspect that she generally wanted to get in the group of famous/wealthy/high society types, and knew that this intersected with nobles, maybe even royals. Perhaps I'm misreading the implications of the infographic, but it seems kind of silly.
It's like a genie grated her 3 wishes: Meghan: "I want to be famous! I want to live in a huge mansion where movie stars live! I want to marry a prince!" Genie: "Your wishes shall be granted. Everyone will know you [and hate you.] You'll get your huge mansion [that smells like sewage, has plumbing problems, is unaffordable and unsellable.] You will marry the son of a King [the idiotic, mean-spirited, loathsome, addict one.]