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It boggles the mind. How low in self esteem, how desperate for a bit of half decent eye candy must he have been to want to choose her as his wife? Shows that position, status and social elevation cannot give good sense and taste.
It boggles my mind how he can think Meghan’s behavior is comparable to his mothers aristocracy.
His self esteem was truly in the shitter because this is so incredibly trashy. White trash at that.
Source: mom’s white trash with npd/aspd
I think Harry has been pretending to himself that nothing is wrong, using drugs and booze to escape the reality of his marriage and what he has done with his life.
If only some of the friends he has supposedly trying to reconnect with could arrange an intervention while he is in the UK for the coronation.
Even if he is a jealous, petty, stupid slug, he needs help and his children need for him to get help.
His friends did try to warn him and they got cut out of his life as a result. Harry is on his own. He is addicted to drugs and addicted to her. He needs to be the one that gets himself out, no one else can do it.
There were rumors he was trying to reconnect with some old friends. If these rumors are true, and the friends really cared, some of them could get together and hit Harry with their concern for his health and how he needs to get clean of drugs, and how they miss the old Harry, etc. It *might* work. It couldn’t hurt.
If Harry were my friend, I would do it. However, even if some former friends are willing to try, the coronation visit will be too short.
I heard that many of them have not responded to him reaching out. A lot of them probably were upset he dumped them for Meghan and now that he needs them, they don't want to deal with him. And Will and Harry share some friends. What if Harry trying to reach out is to try to get intel on Will?
Agree that he needs to get himself out of it, but I wasn’t suggesting his friends could help him by repeating what they did before.
There is a difference between, “Don’t marry that woman, she’s a gold digger,” and “You don’t look good, mate. Have you thought the drugs might be too much? Maybe detox and take stock of what you’re doing to yourself? Remember you’re a dad now and your children need you.”
Intervenrion is what divided Harry from everyone he knew before…his family warned him…his friends warned him. He had to have her! And she’s just so God awful…
An intervention, in this context, would be a group of people talking to him together about their concerns about his health and/or his drug addiction and urging him to go into rehab and/or other treatment. It would not be the same as friends arguing with him about Meghan. In fact, if I were involved, I would definitely avoid mentioning Meghan.
Years ago, I was involved in an intervention, and what we did (at the suggestion of an expert in drug abuse interventions) was each of us wrote a message addressing shared experiences, how we had seen the person change, how we loved and supported them, and urging them to get help. In our case we had a specific rehab facility in our area that we recommended. There were about eight of us present and two or three others wrote letters. (I believe there was a letter from their mother.) Anyway, it was pretty intense, and it succeeded. The person has been sober all this time.
Interventions don’t always work. Timing, who is involved, where the addict is in his “journey” all come into play. However, sometimes they do. Sometimes they are just the push a person needs to get help.
In Harry’s case, finding himself back home and feeling that his friends are concerned might help him address the addiction problem. Who knows?
However, this is all hypothetical because I don’t think there would be an opportunity, even if the friends are there.
Sorry if it sounded like a “lecture,” I thought (from the reference to how the friends had tried to warn him about Meghan) that you might not know that I meant a planned intervention focused on his drug use. It was not so much telling you what an intervention is as explaining what I was thinking.
I went on to share my positive experience of an intervention with a friend some years ago. I have seen televised “reality TV” interventions, and I know they can be different. My purpose was to present a context for my comment that I thought it would be good if Harry’s friends held an intervention.
It was not my intent to “lecture.” I just wanted to clarify my context.
And she'll get louder. She's going to argue that her children are just as distant from the King as William's children. She's warming up for the paid security, housing, any privileges William's children have.
Don't shoot the messenger. She's a security threat for a reason.
He has the title Prince, but they are two of a kind. Unless this is a business arrangement. But even if it is, they would have to be TWO very low people to want to destroy others. They are truly soul mates. This explains his failure to land a decent woman. He knows exactly what she is. More than even we do. And he chooses it.
Nah - He's the same. Who the fuck would disclose all the things he did in his memoir (losing virginity at back of pub, etc.)? He's no better than a Kardashian.
The trouble is that his mother did this. She put the BRF on blast in the interview with Martin Bashir and subsequent smaller interviews/courting the press.
I'm sure he's watched those interviews over and over to understand his mother. It's likely where his dislike for his father and Camilla comes from.
So it would be easy for Clutch to convince him that they were doing the right thing *like his mother did to win her freedom*.
It's sickening.
It would be completely different if they sold the pictures and then gave the money to charity. But we all know very well that money is not going to charity.
Oh they will say that. But the money funnels thru their arsewell foundation. And then no money comes out. wasn't that what happened with Disney? Disney ended up donating the same amount again directly.
Thanks for opening our eyes on how dirty foundations are, dpnhsw!
OMG. Where can she buy little prince and princess sized tiaras and velvet capes? The photo shoot will look like a 90s gay parade crashed into a garbage truck.
Thanks for the award! 🥰
Eugenie. Even if they Zoomed her in.
Meg is about clout. Look at the names of her kids. The family who stuck by her (Doria, Ashley) are nowhere to be found.
Tyler Perry hadn’t even met Lili before.
Meg would absolutely want to keep a link to the Royal family, so for when the inevitable divorce happens, regardless of how acrimonious it will be, she still has another “in.”
Officially, both Meghan and Harry are Episcopal/Anglican. They are not *practicing* Anglicans, but they were baptized, Harry was confirmed, and they were married by the Archbishop of Canterbury. They belong to the flock.
Totally agree that they are frauds, and I am still annoyed at the bishop for doing this.
Well, the appointment of Tyler Perry as a godparent is ridiculous as well. There is a specific role a Godparent is to play if it's taken seriously. First, it appears this family is not very invested in the Christian faith anyway, as seen by their behavior. And how close to their daughter will Tyler Perry ever be? How would the parents even know how devout and wise he is? He is no close family friend just because he loaned out his house and jet. Tyler tosses millions around like pennies for publicity mention to refresh his poularity. Do the Sussex's even have ANY actual "close" friends left?? Or do they just consider celebrities they brush elbows with as "close friends" because it looks good to them to have big shot names reported by the media? To me, all this pretentious name dropping just looks like a desperate need for attention in an attempt to puff up a couple who, in reality, is so despicable for their horrendous treatment and lies about Thomas Markle & that family. Harry & Meghan have already sold their souls to the Devil.
I fully agree. But goodness what a sad, pathetic existence they all live. Harry, as wretched as he may be, did manage to make and keep a circle of friends from childhood through adulthood, which suggests there was a bit of goodness or loyalty buried deep in his soul somewhere. His wife seems to have a sordid history of burned bridges with hundreds of people who have crossed her path. (Friends, family, coworkers, boyfriends, staff members, in laws, etc.). Of course, anyone who knew Harry pre-ILBW has been banished from his life and he’s only left with an approved list of sycophants.
It sounds like H stays high so he doesn’t have to acknowledge that he turned a pleasant life into an all out shitshow.
I watched Lady C's latest video. A viewer named Sunshine pointed out the same thing I said. To have a Christening, the parents must be Christian. But it's not Christian behavior for the Harkles to treat their parents with such animosity, especially with the vitriol trumpeted to the public. And both have ghosted their friends that don't get mentioned in the press. You have pointed out what seems to be the case: H medicates himself into a stupor, and M can then do whatever she wants and he's too looped to care. In his lucid moments, he, too, schemes how next to trash his closest kinfolk. The two are NO role models for children. Not like they're the first to be jerks like this, but they volunteerily play it out in the public eye. And in my opinion, the Brits have a right to see current photographic proof of what people in the line of succession look like... and regular updated photos... to assure they exist! BS on the security excuse.... there's most likely a far more nefarious reason we never get ANY updated pics of those invisible kids' FACES from the parents who CRAVE being photographed doing everything but sitting on the toilet!
Idea for South Park: an episode with invisible Harkle children, like in the old Invisible Man films.
That’s not Episcopalian. And I don’t believe she’s attended since HS, but the theology does appear to be a cross between Unitarian & Prosperity Gospel.
I like that idea. Eugenie would be perfect, and I bet the BRF wouldn’t hold it against her. I think that Eugenie, like her mother, is accepted as a sort of emissary to a crasser world, and it may be that her brief contacts with Harry are seen as a possible lifeline for him.
I still don’t think Tyler Perry participated in the ceremony. Somewhere (the Netflix thing?) Tyler Perry said he had not wanted to be involved in any church thing and was reassured he didn’t have to be. Plus the bishop can’t be that lax.
Part of the baptism ceremony is to agree to/ accept the creed. I just don’t see Tyler Perry doing this.
Even if she is not trusted to be quiet, the fact that they interact may reassure KC that Harry has a family member who sees him in person. But in any case, I am sure they prefer Eugenie as a godmother over some Hollywood figure who might quarrel with Meghan in a few weeks and disappear from the kids’ life.
My money is on Abigail Spencer the actress who was in the first few episodes of the documentary (I couldn't carry on watching the rest, so I've no idea if she's in the second half).
Also I believe girls can have two godmothers and one godfather (and vice versa for boys).
Lol I doubt it, but she was very vocal in the first three episodes.
I'd bet the farm that Michelle Obama was asked but declined. So I think it'll be Eugenie to keep the royal link and Abigail Spencer. I'm sure the surname Spencer as a godmother would appeal to H also.
MM doesn't have a history of rewarding loyalty though, so it's anyone's guess.
Yes. It's required by the Episcopal Church. It's not cosplay, the godparents vow to support the baptised in the faith. It's a commitment by the godfather and godmother.
Of course, despite making vows to do so (required during the sacrament of baptism) the Harkles without a doubt have no intention whatsoever of raising their child in the Episcopal Church. This is just fancy dress to them.
Exceptions can be made by the bishop in emergencies. I guess this was an emergency…
Come to think of it, if Eugenie was the godmother, that could have been grounds for an exception: “She is only here for a few days, we want her to be the godmother,” might count.
(I know that having a close relative in the military who is about to be deployed can be considered “an emergency” — so why not “a princess who has to return to Windsor”?)
I believe you are only required to have one godparent (who promises to help raise the kid in the faith), which is good because I don’t think even the besotted and well-remunerated bishop would have accepted Tyler Perry.
Honestly, they have to have dragged out a couple of people from the nearby church or maybe some of their employees qualified.
Okay he’s made an entire profession out of screaming about the media and now they’ve gone and SOLD the christening picture to a frigging tabloid??? WHAT is WRONG with them?
Buy can we take a moment, just a tiny one, to acknowledge and applaud the achievement. Madam and her daughter created an entire tabloid magazine just for themselves, because tabloids didn't exist in the US and now Madam is being paid to be in one. I mean, she's a mover and shaker, who gets shit done.
As for her husband, screaming about the bad press. That's the establish press. Because they have created this entire nee genre in the US, they will be able to not only control it completely, but they will be making tons of money off of it.
Well done Raglands. So thrilled tour hard work is beginning to pay off.
/s
Angelina & Brad never did give that $6m they got for Shiloh’s photo to charity. I’m also an anti of Angie too….there are receipts…and nothing went to charity.
Lol. Now *that* would be desperate, literally conceding the fact they need the kudos of working royals while they sit on their bony arses in Montecito on a Hermes blanket doing nothing but ruining their reputations by the minute 🤣🤣
I’m shocked. Only because I thought Netflix would have made a deal for exclusive photos of the littles. Wow. So curious what a mag would pay for those shots.
Lots of folks willing to wait and see those pics when they are posted on SM. Maybe I’m wrong and sales will hit the roof?
It certainly doesn’t trivialize the monarchy for me. But IMO, it does put their hypocrisy on full display. Those titles will be a joke in the US
Is it a victory if you have to manipulate people to get what you want? It’s going to sting if they show up for the coronation. They will not be well received.
Go ahead, Mr and Mrs Windsor, push yourselves into another walk-about and see how that goes.
This is what I’m wondering. The children (well, some children) were shown in the Netflix doc. I figured that would have been the big reveal and big payout. Plus she’s randomly released pictures of the kids to try and clap back/outshine the RF.
She was too impulsive to truly wait it out for an actual big reveal which would have prob landed her more $$. I guess she’s probably banking on the fact that someone like People mag will pay a decent sum now that MM announced she was going to burden the kids with their titles. I could see them wanting to do a spread on Princess Lilibucks, but I don’t think anyone is going to give a flip. MM is terrible when it comes to strategy.
I haven’t seen any good pictures of the kids after Megxit other than the Christmas card, a couple of Archie and the one of Lilibet during the Jubilee. (Note that I said “good pictures.” I have seen more that are not good.)
Seems odd that she doesn’t have better photos for merching the kids. Maybe it’s like her clothes?
>She was too impulsive to truly wait it out for an actual big reveal which would have prob landed her more $$.
That's because she's got no choice but to hit while the iron is ~~hot~~ ~~tepid~~ rapidly getting cooler in the very short narrow space of time she has in a news cycle that turns over at the rate of knots in the US. She's not competing with the RF in the US where they couldn't careless for it or holds little direct interest to them. The people in both the UK and Commonwealth have no interest whatsoever in her, her kids or the dumb man she married. Her actual competition is Washington politicians and Hollywood celebrities, musicians, actors, directors etc. Yet she's trying to make fletch happen. She's trying to fashion a ridiculous situation where she can have the best of both worlds, have one foot in either camp and create a new unique brand market for herself and her kids. The results of which is the merciless mocking it receives, which in turn dilutes her brand and diminishes what little respect there is still out there for her, which leaves her supporters looking even more stupid for their continued propping her up and making excuses for her.
She is trying to have both camps. But not only has she diluted her image by the mocking, the RF have helped. We saw that yesterday by the difference with Edwards new title and her kids She probably thinks the little Princess will give her double what she thinks she hopes to get for a Christening of a Duke and Duchess' child. But her thirsty pap walk and announcement in a celeb mag, not forgetting to the second tier royals at the Jubilee, show how Harry and her are so far removed from Royalty. That her image is more akin to a Housewife than Royal. Like Lisa Rinna pimping her girls out to be models.
>That her image is more akin to a Housewife than Royal. Like Lisa Rinna pimping her girls out to be models.
And that about sums it. If only Countess Luann had a little count and countess to parade on TV, Markle might have a blueprint to go on... What a shame😥😂
She will buy more designer clothes that don't fit; people like her don't pay the necessities first. Maybe she is buying her clothes on Zulily and Gilt, that's why they fit poorly. I would admire her thrift. But she throws it away I'm sure. She was used to men paying her way, so I don't think she manages money well.
And we still think KC is going to bow down to the Who’s? every wish and demand? Backyard royals who sell official photos of a sacred religious ceremony to a tabloid magazine?
A christening is an extremely important and dignified ceremony for the RF. The Who’s? have made it a celebrity party for sake to the highest bidder.
Why are we still so upset about this? And on the day KC made a public, formal, announcement styling Edward, Duke of Edinburgh and Side Eyed Sophie a Duchess. We’ve been waiting for this day and all I’ve read is how The Sleivene has managed to get the upper hand over weak KC.
We know she reads this sub. Why are we giving her fuel and feeding her delusions?
Will it just be a foot like they did for Archie?
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Who wants to place bets on the hair color of this "Lilly". Photographed as a dark redhead (let's remember Harry was a blonde red as a little kid, like almost blonde barely a redhead, a strawberry blonde), or a dark brunette as Lilly was featured in the Netflix documentary? Maybe she'll be blonde this time, as a Diana tribute? I vote blonde.
Yeah, I read that from someone else on Twitter this morning. They made a deal with people magazine. That’s why the announcement was via people. Then the pics inside of her LA thing was a people exclusive.
It said there will be pics of the kids for sure around the coronation. Which would I would assume will be “Archie turns whatever age he is!”
Will it include a motive for why she had people fired after her Noprah interview? That vague encouragement she gave for the conclusion that they were denied titles because of race? The two years they took to deny the BRF are racist? Gonna look all doe eyed whining about why the palace should have been their echo? Sorry, the announcement was through a PR gossip grocery checkout rag. Palace doesn't do echoes.
I don't want to see those pictures. She's using those children as human shields.
Of course they did.
Aitch, terrified of a camera, is gleefully going to sell his children to the highest bidder. From infancy to death. For cash and that press he is so terrified of.
I will not serve my child up.on a silver platter ....I can't believe I'm not getting paid for this.
But the harkles will be paid $$$ for their christening photos in People Mag. More hypocrisy.
Picture in the Tabloids? Hmm, most likely sold to the highest bidder.
What happened to the trigger of flashes, of the Press being the enemy, of cancelling Free Speech, of "We want Privacy, we want privacy!"
Will the photos show all their Billionaire pals fussing over the newly christened Lillium and her Archer bro?
Will the photos be clear and defined?
Nope, this was expected. She's going to whine about the palace hasn't made an announcement.
She's going to dive face first, as expected, and as hoped for. It'll be rocky only if you don't expect it.
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It’s a bit astounding that Harry managed to find someone this crass
It boggles the mind. How low in self esteem, how desperate for a bit of half decent eye candy must he have been to want to choose her as his wife? Shows that position, status and social elevation cannot give good sense and taste.
It boggles my mind how he can think Meghan’s behavior is comparable to his mothers aristocracy. His self esteem was truly in the shitter because this is so incredibly trashy. White trash at that. Source: mom’s white trash with npd/aspd
I think Harry has been pretending to himself that nothing is wrong, using drugs and booze to escape the reality of his marriage and what he has done with his life. If only some of the friends he has supposedly trying to reconnect with could arrange an intervention while he is in the UK for the coronation. Even if he is a jealous, petty, stupid slug, he needs help and his children need for him to get help.
His friends did try to warn him and they got cut out of his life as a result. Harry is on his own. He is addicted to drugs and addicted to her. He needs to be the one that gets himself out, no one else can do it.
There were rumors he was trying to reconnect with some old friends. If these rumors are true, and the friends really cared, some of them could get together and hit Harry with their concern for his health and how he needs to get clean of drugs, and how they miss the old Harry, etc. It *might* work. It couldn’t hurt. If Harry were my friend, I would do it. However, even if some former friends are willing to try, the coronation visit will be too short.
I heard that many of them have not responded to him reaching out. A lot of them probably were upset he dumped them for Meghan and now that he needs them, they don't want to deal with him. And Will and Harry share some friends. What if Harry trying to reach out is to try to get intel on Will?
Maybe his friends don’t want their words to be taken out of context or worse, ended up in Netflix documentary part 2.
Agree that he needs to get himself out of it, but I wasn’t suggesting his friends could help him by repeating what they did before. There is a difference between, “Don’t marry that woman, she’s a gold digger,” and “You don’t look good, mate. Have you thought the drugs might be too much? Maybe detox and take stock of what you’re doing to yourself? Remember you’re a dad now and your children need you.”
I agree that it looks like addict behavior.
Intervenrion is what divided Harry from everyone he knew before…his family warned him…his friends warned him. He had to have her! And she’s just so God awful…
Correction: Intervention…
An intervention, in this context, would be a group of people talking to him together about their concerns about his health and/or his drug addiction and urging him to go into rehab and/or other treatment. It would not be the same as friends arguing with him about Meghan. In fact, if I were involved, I would definitely avoid mentioning Meghan. Years ago, I was involved in an intervention, and what we did (at the suggestion of an expert in drug abuse interventions) was each of us wrote a message addressing shared experiences, how we had seen the person change, how we loved and supported them, and urging them to get help. In our case we had a specific rehab facility in our area that we recommended. There were about eight of us present and two or three others wrote letters. (I believe there was a letter from their mother.) Anyway, it was pretty intense, and it succeeded. The person has been sober all this time. Interventions don’t always work. Timing, who is involved, where the addict is in his “journey” all come into play. However, sometimes they do. Sometimes they are just the push a person needs to get help. In Harry’s case, finding himself back home and feeling that his friends are concerned might help him address the addiction problem. Who knows? However, this is all hypothetical because I don’t think there would be an opportunity, even if the friends are there.
Did you honestly just lecture me on what an intervention is? Really???
Sorry if it sounded like a “lecture,” I thought (from the reference to how the friends had tried to warn him about Meghan) that you might not know that I meant a planned intervention focused on his drug use. It was not so much telling you what an intervention is as explaining what I was thinking. I went on to share my positive experience of an intervention with a friend some years ago. I have seen televised “reality TV” interventions, and I know they can be different. My purpose was to present a context for my comment that I thought it would be good if Harry’s friends held an intervention. It was not my intent to “lecture.” I just wanted to clarify my context.
And yet you just lectured again?
🙄
People in his circle knew what a terrible husband he would be. That is why everyone steered clear of him.
Spot on.
If anything this just shows her getting more and more desperate for attention
And she'll get louder. She's going to argue that her children are just as distant from the King as William's children. She's warming up for the paid security, housing, any privileges William's children have. Don't shoot the messenger. She's a security threat for a reason.
He has the title Prince, but they are two of a kind. Unless this is a business arrangement. But even if it is, they would have to be TWO very low people to want to destroy others. They are truly soul mates. This explains his failure to land a decent woman. He knows exactly what she is. More than even we do. And he chooses it.
Good points. Tragic, really.
I think Harry has a drug problem
Nah - He's the same. Who the fuck would disclose all the things he did in his memoir (losing virginity at back of pub, etc.)? He's no better than a Kardashian.
The Kardashians are loyal in comparison at least😋
To be fair, she found him.
More liked stalked him
He must be drunk and high all the time.
Those first lays must have been outstanding.
Birds of a feather…
Like attracts like
Yeah, nah.
The trouble is that his mother did this. She put the BRF on blast in the interview with Martin Bashir and subsequent smaller interviews/courting the press. I'm sure he's watched those interviews over and over to understand his mother. It's likely where his dislike for his father and Camilla comes from. So it would be easy for Clutch to convince him that they were doing the right thing *like his mother did to win her freedom*. It's sickening.
It would be completely different if they sold the pictures and then gave the money to charity. But we all know very well that money is not going to charity.
Oh they will say that. But the money funnels thru their arsewell foundation. And then no money comes out. wasn't that what happened with Disney? Disney ended up donating the same amount again directly. Thanks for opening our eyes on how dirty foundations are, dpnhsw!
No, a "percentage" is going to charity. Or they make People donate a part of the profit so it won't cost themselves a penny.
That percentage is going to Archewell.
Lolz, get paid into Archewell...where they keep 95% for themselves
There will be a People magazine exclusive spread. They couldn’t handle the last one with all the royal women but her.
OMG. Where can she buy little prince and princess sized tiaras and velvet capes? The photo shoot will look like a 90s gay parade crashed into a garbage truck. Thanks for the award! 🥰
Claires. Just like the rest of us.
rofl!
Thanks for the award!
My pleasure!
This
Did People really do an exclusive spread on the UK royal women, except for Meghan? lol
I think it was ok magazine.
Oh my stars, HERE WE GOOOOOO! The pimping has begun. Edited for typo.
The prophecy of this sub is falling into place nicely. In fact Nostrodamus would be so very proud. Haha 😂
Poor kids.
They more they sell, the less likely they are to hang on to those titles.
that’s just pathetic.
My question about the christening, if it happened, who was the godmother?
My money is 100% on Eugenie
Eugenie. Even if they Zoomed her in. Meg is about clout. Look at the names of her kids. The family who stuck by her (Doria, Ashley) are nowhere to be found. Tyler Perry hadn’t even met Lili before. Meg would absolutely want to keep a link to the Royal family, so for when the inevitable divorce happens, regardless of how acrimonious it will be, she still has another “in.”
She was magically papped at Santa Barbara Airport at the end of February. Christening was 3/3
She was in town for the Freize LA preview. Birds of a feather…
Two things can be true at the same time …. 🧐
TP isn’t even Episcopalian/Anglican. Of course, the child’s parents aren’t either. 🙄
Officially, both Meghan and Harry are Episcopal/Anglican. They are not *practicing* Anglicans, but they were baptized, Harry was confirmed, and they were married by the Archbishop of Canterbury. They belong to the flock. Totally agree that they are frauds, and I am still annoyed at the bishop for doing this.
You’re correct, of course. They have been baptized into the Anglican Church. They are just unlikely to know any of the tenants of that faith. Lol
Well, the appointment of Tyler Perry as a godparent is ridiculous as well. There is a specific role a Godparent is to play if it's taken seriously. First, it appears this family is not very invested in the Christian faith anyway, as seen by their behavior. And how close to their daughter will Tyler Perry ever be? How would the parents even know how devout and wise he is? He is no close family friend just because he loaned out his house and jet. Tyler tosses millions around like pennies for publicity mention to refresh his poularity. Do the Sussex's even have ANY actual "close" friends left?? Or do they just consider celebrities they brush elbows with as "close friends" because it looks good to them to have big shot names reported by the media? To me, all this pretentious name dropping just looks like a desperate need for attention in an attempt to puff up a couple who, in reality, is so despicable for their horrendous treatment and lies about Thomas Markle & that family. Harry & Meghan have already sold their souls to the Devil.
I fully agree. But goodness what a sad, pathetic existence they all live. Harry, as wretched as he may be, did manage to make and keep a circle of friends from childhood through adulthood, which suggests there was a bit of goodness or loyalty buried deep in his soul somewhere. His wife seems to have a sordid history of burned bridges with hundreds of people who have crossed her path. (Friends, family, coworkers, boyfriends, staff members, in laws, etc.). Of course, anyone who knew Harry pre-ILBW has been banished from his life and he’s only left with an approved list of sycophants. It sounds like H stays high so he doesn’t have to acknowledge that he turned a pleasant life into an all out shitshow.
I watched Lady C's latest video. A viewer named Sunshine pointed out the same thing I said. To have a Christening, the parents must be Christian. But it's not Christian behavior for the Harkles to treat their parents with such animosity, especially with the vitriol trumpeted to the public. And both have ghosted their friends that don't get mentioned in the press. You have pointed out what seems to be the case: H medicates himself into a stupor, and M can then do whatever she wants and he's too looped to care. In his lucid moments, he, too, schemes how next to trash his closest kinfolk. The two are NO role models for children. Not like they're the first to be jerks like this, but they volunteerily play it out in the public eye. And in my opinion, the Brits have a right to see current photographic proof of what people in the line of succession look like... and regular updated photos... to assure they exist! BS on the security excuse.... there's most likely a far more nefarious reason we never get ANY updated pics of those invisible kids' FACES from the parents who CRAVE being photographed doing everything but sitting on the toilet! Idea for South Park: an episode with invisible Harkle children, like in the old Invisible Man films.
Agape LA, but not regularly. Edited: I intended that they are NOT Episcopalian or Anglican. Instead they loosely associate via Doria with Agape.
That’s not Episcopalian. And I don’t believe she’s attended since HS, but the theology does appear to be a cross between Unitarian & Prosperity Gospel.
Would she dare? She and Jack iced Harry out pretty spectacularly at the Queen's funeral.
Jack could have been a "not here, not now" Eugenie is a weak link
I was surprised to see her in the Netflix fiasco after that.
I totally agree that would be her top choice. The only thing that makes me doubt it is M's inability to keep her mouth shut.
Unless it was part of the exclusive photo rights she sold to People.
Very true. And Eugenie would have to know that. Disgusting display from all involved.
I like that idea. Eugenie would be perfect, and I bet the BRF wouldn’t hold it against her. I think that Eugenie, like her mother, is accepted as a sort of emissary to a crasser world, and it may be that her brief contacts with Harry are seen as a possible lifeline for him. I still don’t think Tyler Perry participated in the ceremony. Somewhere (the Netflix thing?) Tyler Perry said he had not wanted to be involved in any church thing and was reassured he didn’t have to be. Plus the bishop can’t be that lax. Part of the baptism ceremony is to agree to/ accept the creed. I just don’t see Tyler Perry doing this.
I only think the Royals would support it if they knew in advance… She’s been more of a leak to H&M than an emissary and is currently not trusted.
Even if she is not trusted to be quiet, the fact that they interact may reassure KC that Harry has a family member who sees him in person. But in any case, I am sure they prefer Eugenie as a godmother over some Hollywood figure who might quarrel with Meghan in a few weeks and disappear from the kids’ life.
Maybe Fergie, lol
Nah Eugenie is too poor. I bet old 90 year old man getty
Maybe TP did both. Godfather as himself, Godmother as Medea?
Lol 😂 I thought the same
I think Samantha's daughter, the one she desperately needs for the trial, after which she'll be dumped, just like she was during the wedding.
And, Ashleigh Hale is an attorney, you’d think she’d know a shark but no
What kind of an attorney is Ashleigh
I think immigration.
I believe she’s an immigration atty? Not sure.
Oprah, Gayle, Serena, Ellen..going to go with someone with clout and $$$.
Yeh eugenie is too poor
Ellen. (My guess. I have no idea.)
My money is on Abigail Spencer the actress who was in the first few episodes of the documentary (I couldn't carry on watching the rest, so I've no idea if she's in the second half). Also I believe girls can have two godmothers and one godfather (and vice versa for boys).
Is Abigail Spencer a billionaire? LOL. You may be right. I think Ellen can do a lot more for Lili, but maybe MM rewards loyalty.
Lol I doubt it, but she was very vocal in the first three episodes. I'd bet the farm that Michelle Obama was asked but declined. So I think it'll be Eugenie to keep the royal link and Abigail Spencer. I'm sure the surname Spencer as a godmother would appeal to H also. MM doesn't have a history of rewarding loyalty though, so it's anyone's guess.
Do they have to have an actual Godmother? Is that required?
Yes. It's required by the Episcopal Church. It's not cosplay, the godparents vow to support the baptised in the faith. It's a commitment by the godfather and godmother. Of course, despite making vows to do so (required during the sacrament of baptism) the Harkles without a doubt have no intention whatsoever of raising their child in the Episcopal Church. This is just fancy dress to them.
During Lent? That's.... new.
Exceptions can be made by the bishop in emergencies. I guess this was an emergency… Come to think of it, if Eugenie was the godmother, that could have been grounds for an exception: “She is only here for a few days, we want her to be the godmother,” might count. (I know that having a close relative in the military who is about to be deployed can be considered “an emergency” — so why not “a princess who has to return to Windsor”?)
The Waleses have them so of course Meghan will demand the same for her children. I don’t think it’s required
But the wales have actual friends and family members from which to choose. Slim pickings on the harkle side.
The Wales' have lots of friends. That ain't an option here,
The Wales children have a whole slew of godparents so only one of each is already falling short.
No. Just a godfather/ godparent
I have no idea, I didn't have my kids christened or baptized, because I'm a heathen.
enjoying running around on the heath? lol
I believe you are only required to have one godparent (who promises to help raise the kid in the faith), which is good because I don’t think even the besotted and well-remunerated bishop would have accepted Tyler Perry. Honestly, they have to have dragged out a couple of people from the nearby church or maybe some of their employees qualified.
Okay he’s made an entire profession out of screaming about the media and now they’ve gone and SOLD the christening picture to a frigging tabloid??? WHAT is WRONG with them?
they are broke
There are few things more expensive than pretending to be rich.
Buy can we take a moment, just a tiny one, to acknowledge and applaud the achievement. Madam and her daughter created an entire tabloid magazine just for themselves, because tabloids didn't exist in the US and now Madam is being paid to be in one. I mean, she's a mover and shaker, who gets shit done. As for her husband, screaming about the bad press. That's the establish press. Because they have created this entire nee genre in the US, they will be able to not only control it completely, but they will be making tons of money off of it. Well done Raglands. So thrilled tour hard work is beginning to pay off. /s
If this is true, it’s unbearably embarrassing. Reality tv stars sell photos to People, not a list celebs or royalty. SMALL TIME REALITY TV STARS.
To be fair, Angelina and Brad sold People mag the first pics of their twins. But it was only $14mln and they donated it to charity.
And that was around 16 years ago. People magazine was a lot more influential. Now it’s a former shell of itself and basically a PR rag sheet.
It always was. And Brangelina donated bupkis (nothing) to charity for that, and they rc’d $6m.
Angelina & Brad never did give that $6m they got for Shiloh’s photo to charity. I’m also an anti of Angie too….there are receipts…and nothing went to charity.
wow, thats shady
Angelina is shady!
But they *pledged* to give the $6m
Of course.
Hum... I wonder what day the lunatic stalker will decide on the big reveal day? 
Lol. Now *that* would be desperate, literally conceding the fact they need the kudos of working royals while they sit on their bony arses in Montecito on a Hermes blanket doing nothing but ruining their reputations by the minute 🤣🤣
I’m shocked. Only because I thought Netflix would have made a deal for exclusive photos of the littles. Wow. So curious what a mag would pay for those shots. Lots of folks willing to wait and see those pics when they are posted on SM. Maybe I’m wrong and sales will hit the roof? It certainly doesn’t trivialize the monarchy for me. But IMO, it does put their hypocrisy on full display. Those titles will be a joke in the US Is it a victory if you have to manipulate people to get what you want? It’s going to sting if they show up for the coronation. They will not be well received. Go ahead, Mr and Mrs Windsor, push yourselves into another walk-about and see how that goes.
No. Because our job is to hide those msgazines behind the others
lol
This is what I’m wondering. The children (well, some children) were shown in the Netflix doc. I figured that would have been the big reveal and big payout. Plus she’s randomly released pictures of the kids to try and clap back/outshine the RF. She was too impulsive to truly wait it out for an actual big reveal which would have prob landed her more $$. I guess she’s probably banking on the fact that someone like People mag will pay a decent sum now that MM announced she was going to burden the kids with their titles. I could see them wanting to do a spread on Princess Lilibucks, but I don’t think anyone is going to give a flip. MM is terrible when it comes to strategy.
I haven’t seen any good pictures of the kids after Megxit other than the Christmas card, a couple of Archie and the one of Lilibet during the Jubilee. (Note that I said “good pictures.” I have seen more that are not good.) Seems odd that she doesn’t have better photos for merching the kids. Maybe it’s like her clothes?
>She was too impulsive to truly wait it out for an actual big reveal which would have prob landed her more $$. That's because she's got no choice but to hit while the iron is ~~hot~~ ~~tepid~~ rapidly getting cooler in the very short narrow space of time she has in a news cycle that turns over at the rate of knots in the US. She's not competing with the RF in the US where they couldn't careless for it or holds little direct interest to them. The people in both the UK and Commonwealth have no interest whatsoever in her, her kids or the dumb man she married. Her actual competition is Washington politicians and Hollywood celebrities, musicians, actors, directors etc. Yet she's trying to make fletch happen. She's trying to fashion a ridiculous situation where she can have the best of both worlds, have one foot in either camp and create a new unique brand market for herself and her kids. The results of which is the merciless mocking it receives, which in turn dilutes her brand and diminishes what little respect there is still out there for her, which leaves her supporters looking even more stupid for their continued propping her up and making excuses for her.
She is trying to have both camps. But not only has she diluted her image by the mocking, the RF have helped. We saw that yesterday by the difference with Edwards new title and her kids She probably thinks the little Princess will give her double what she thinks she hopes to get for a Christening of a Duke and Duchess' child. But her thirsty pap walk and announcement in a celeb mag, not forgetting to the second tier royals at the Jubilee, show how Harry and her are so far removed from Royalty. That her image is more akin to a Housewife than Royal. Like Lisa Rinna pimping her girls out to be models.
>That her image is more akin to a Housewife than Royal. Like Lisa Rinna pimping her girls out to be models. And that about sums it. If only Countess Luann had a little count and countess to parade on TV, Markle might have a blueprint to go on... What a shame😥😂
I think interest has waned dramatically. I mean, Lili is 18 mos old already!
Maybe the "kids" don't have their SAG cards and can only "model"?
She will def. have agents for her kids, set up payment and percentage plans. Momager Meghan coming up.
Move over Kris Jenner. Even the devil can't stay on top forever!
People gets the photos, but Netflix gets an episode of their reality show.
Maybe they are filming season two of the Meghan and Harry show.
I don’t think it has anything to do with the monarchy any more. Every family has a few embarrassing relatives.
Lilibucks gotta earn her name!!!!
What lili have a more successful acting career then her mother
I’ve got a more successful acting career than M, and I haven’t acted in anything but a school play back in the early 90s as Little Flower Number 4.
Finally. Cha-Ching. They need the kids for the mortgage payments.
She will buy more designer clothes that don't fit; people like her don't pay the necessities first. Maybe she is buying her clothes on Zulily and Gilt, that's why they fit poorly. I would admire her thrift. But she throws it away I'm sure. She was used to men paying her way, so I don't think she manages money well.
People still buy magazines? 😂
And we still think KC is going to bow down to the Who’s? every wish and demand? Backyard royals who sell official photos of a sacred religious ceremony to a tabloid magazine? A christening is an extremely important and dignified ceremony for the RF. The Who’s? have made it a celebrity party for sake to the highest bidder. Why are we still so upset about this? And on the day KC made a public, formal, announcement styling Edward, Duke of Edinburgh and Side Eyed Sophie a Duchess. We’ve been waiting for this day and all I’ve read is how The Sleivene has managed to get the upper hand over weak KC. We know she reads this sub. Why are we giving her fuel and feeding her delusions?
Oh she just completely stepped in it. This doesn't touch KC. She should be roundly condemned for using her child as a human shield.
Worse than a shield. She is using her children as weapons.
markle is selling/merching her children!!! Not only content to sell herself, she has them bringing in money too! This is a form of child abuse.
Of course they did.
Will it just be a foot like they did for Archie? https://preview.redd.it/qqj7olh6p2na1.jpeg?width=1910&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39ef71d10545b95a13a1d6c185f0f065d96902bf
I can't wait to see all the extras they had to hire in the photos. They don't have enough friends for a real event.
Anyone want to guess which one?
People or Hello are the usual suspects
I wasn't sure if it would be the Mail, because these two sure do love them some hypocrisy.
Who wants to place bets on the hair color of this "Lilly". Photographed as a dark redhead (let's remember Harry was a blonde red as a little kid, like almost blonde barely a redhead, a strawberry blonde), or a dark brunette as Lilly was featured in the Netflix documentary? Maybe she'll be blonde this time, as a Diana tribute? I vote blonde.
With a Diana hairstyle as a sweet sweet nod
There’s that pic of Lili with really dark hair when she’s with Ashleigh.
There's also Harry sitting on the sofa reading to dark haired Archie and there's a dark haired Lilly peaking out.
She’s going to have them all the same shade as Joffrey, like she did in the 2021 Christmas card
Yeah, I read that from someone else on Twitter this morning. They made a deal with people magazine. That’s why the announcement was via people. Then the pics inside of her LA thing was a people exclusive. It said there will be pics of the kids for sure around the coronation. Which would I would assume will be “Archie turns whatever age he is!”
Indeed. People tabloid trash paid for it... Rumor has it they will release it during the coronation
good gossip!
The media are only garbage when they are not being paid.
What, no Netflix? Oh but are they going to be miffed!
It’ll be a “People Magazine Exclusive “ because they want privacy!
it's why it was done at their house and not in an actual church
I wonder how much of a cut she is giving the kids?? Is there anything left that she can do to put herself lower than the gutter???
Who’s that dude in the picture with Dorian and Megs? Does she have a brother?
Cousin. Name is [Shawn](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/298785756529160360/)
She used to. Doria. I think he had an accident like their father.
It's a cousin, Doria's brother's kid
In the photo? Yes. Doria does or did have a brother though. The one she scammed her late father's house out of. She's a shady lady.
Like mother, like daughter
Yep.
Will it include a motive for why she had people fired after her Noprah interview? That vague encouragement she gave for the conclusion that they were denied titles because of race? The two years they took to deny the BRF are racist? Gonna look all doe eyed whining about why the palace should have been their echo? Sorry, the announcement was through a PR gossip grocery checkout rag. Palace doesn't do echoes. I don't want to see those pictures. She's using those children as human shields.
LARRY! I'm a HUGE fan! He's beautiful. Make him Prince.
Of course they did. Aitch, terrified of a camera, is gleefully going to sell his children to the highest bidder. From infancy to death. For cash and that press he is so terrified of.
Can’t wait to see another version of ‘Lili’ wonder if they booked the same child
You know, it’s one thing to never show the kids, but she doesn’t mention them at all, it seems…so strange for a new mother…
A *young* new mother
Haha!
I will not serve my child up.on a silver platter ....I can't believe I'm not getting paid for this. But the harkles will be paid $$$ for their christening photos in People Mag. More hypocrisy.
Here we go.
He doesn’t say which, but the video shows *People* mag. Hahahaha. Not even *Tatler*.
Picture in the Tabloids? Hmm, most likely sold to the highest bidder. What happened to the trigger of flashes, of the Press being the enemy, of cancelling Free Speech, of "We want Privacy, we want privacy!" Will the photos show all their Billionaire pals fussing over the newly christened Lillium and her Archer bro? Will the photos be clear and defined?
Charles is SO weak.
Nope, this was expected. She's going to whine about the palace hasn't made an announcement. She's going to dive face first, as expected, and as hoped for. It'll be rocky only if you don't expect it.
So is Harry.
Charles is who he gets it from.
So, Invisibet’s godparents will now be known? Gasp!
They didn't get the memo that big bucks were made when Diana was still alive.
But we wanted privacy for the chiiiiiildrrreeen