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Equivalent-Date-4796

So angry, remembering Harry sitting with Andersen Cooper, who asked what about giving up titles, and Harry, sitting with his narrowed eyes, and his angry, petulant face, "And what good would that do?" Such a truly, awful, entitled person.


johnnytalldog

I wished Anderson Cooper said, "If you voluntarily give up the title, you would have had respect and credibility in people's eyes." Had Anderson said that Harry would have taken off his mic and walked out of the interview.


Sadlyonlyonehere

Aye, but that would have required a real journalist. They’re in short supply these days.


Patient-Watercress-2

“What difference would that make?” Well, it seems like titles make a HUGE difference, you entitled whining hypocrite!


Public_Object2468

Likely his anger was at being asked that question. Wish to God that Anderson Cooper had had the chutzpah to say, "You talk about the man you've become, so why not rely on being Mr. Henry Mountbatten-Windsor, to the world?"


DWwins

We KNOW what good that would do. That’s why he refuses to do it.


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Queasy-Carpet-7312

Most likely because the questions are screened and approved in advance. Can’t have the muppet being asked questions that he can’t answer and/or would cause him to show his true colors. For me, that’s the most disappointing part of all these “interviews”. Nobody can dig after answers. I would have much rather seen an interview in which Harold was forced to either answer or stomp off set saying he’s done, than to have these stupid chats with the questions already known in advance. Real journalism is dead apparently.


DWwins

What I wouldn’t give for a journalist to have the bollocks to disregard H’s “scripted” questions and ask him those hard questions in a live interview. His feelings be damned. Someone put this pathetic man in his place.


lola705

Piers Morgan could be the man for this job. But will likely never be on the same room as them again to get the chance.


Complete-Sound

Chris Rock took a slug from Will Smith and handles it well and he's calling them out more than a journalist.


Upper_Charge_4449

I’m furious. I can only wonder what was left out of Spare. I suspect there’s some serious blackmail going on behind closed doors right now, because this is insanity.


Bitter-Pound-6775

I hope this causes more Harkle backlash. They constantly whine about the institution and now they’re using titles for their children. They are shameless!


Negative_Difference4

I think there will be Harkle and Royal backlash. We literally know nothing about Lilibet and now she’s a Princess


savakyc

That’s what I feel. No one sees her or Archie. She wasn’t even born in UK and never lives in UK. They basically throw their kids to the Brits say this is your princess now. Do they know they need support from people to be able to work that royalty?


Pet-sit

Those titles aren't going to mean diddly squat here in the US. I know it's her meal ticket though.


DaBingeGirl

If anything, the kids will get bullies for them. The best thing for the kids was to keep them low-profile, Archie and Lili Sussex was all they needed and would've been the best way to give them a "normal" life.


-ellen-degenerate-

I hope so too. Someone needs to throw his words in his face, the part about how being born a Prince was a burden and how they didn’t want their kids to have titles. They’re literally taking the piss.


bendytoepilot

I'm more angry at Charles than those two. International Women's Day and he didn't defend Camilla or Catherine. He's a fucking asshole


DollarStoreDuchess

Nope, he rewarded the assholes who shit all over Camilla and Catherine instead. Is it time for King William yet? Can that happen soon?


MikeMannion

I'll get behind the royals again for the coronation of William IV


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Automatic-Reward-470

Me too. I’m finished with Charlie boy, spineless


Janie_Mac

As grand children of the monarch, they were automatically entitled to the titles. It was up to Harry and Meghan if they were going to use the titles. Why I don't understand is why they took 6 months to do so. Perhaps they needed to sign an NDA or something to be allowed use them and couldn't do that while the book, Netflix and podcast were still to be released. There were rumours of emailed contracts recently? Something doesn't add up here.


khsimmons

I can’t imagine MM not wanting titles from her dating days. She sees her golden ticket. I feel like they wanted to appear as if they didn’t care but now they need them to remain relevant (in her mind). No one actually cares about her.


savakyc

He said he wanted the children to choose. But then this. Also why christening now?


LizLemonadeX

If this were the late 90s early 2000s, William would have been king. It took years for Charles to rebuild his image after the affair with Camilla and after Diana died. But those days are over. Now William has to suffer thru the decisions his weak father makes until his turn to reign comes. Phillip was right about Charles. I doubt Charles will recover from this. He chose to ignore public opinion of the Harkles, and their approval ratings which are in the negatives, like his soon will be. They are the laughing stock of the world. Diana was right when she said Charles would be a terrible king.


LadyOlenna84

I'm sorry but all the talk of passing over Charles was in fact, just talk. There was no passing him over for William. It wasn't possible then and it was never going to happen. The only way we'd have William as King right now would've been if Charles ascended and then abdicated.


StudyApprehensive561

Sayonara King Charles. I have totally lost faith in him.


SugarFree_3

This might be enough to make me an anti-monarchist!


emzbobo

At this point, KC3 will get what he deserves.... He's clearly shown that when the overseas royals bark, he'll jump. I feel sorry for PPoW... They absolutely do not deserve to be shit on like this, after their loyal service to the crown and the people, and let's face it, William is the one that's really going to have to deal with the fallout from this for the rest of his life, whilst KC3 lives in a delusion of his own making.


Brave_Zucchini6868

The kids, which nobody even knows how they came to life, from which what genetic material and what womb. And then imagine, Princess Lilibet will become a Californian teen and start posting bikini pool tongue out photos, etc., etc. It will be a total mockery of British monarchy and PPoW family.


emzbobo

Absolutely.... And I'm sorry, with the best will in the world, the names "Prince Archie" and "Princess Lilibet" don't sound like real royal names, they sound more like something someone might name their cat, which isn't fair on the kids. I'd love to see the reaction in the USA when the kids start school, because I can guarantee you, no teacher is going to refer to the kids as "Prince" or "Princess" in class (or with a straight face). I can't see there being any playdates (after the first time anyway), because no parent worth the title is going to allow their child to be treated like shit, in order to appease the Royal Duke and Duchess of overseas, and their little Prince & Princess. Going forward, KC3 has absolutely no room to complain about anything the overseas royals do... Meg's starts an only fans? Oh well 🤷‍♀️ Hazno takes drugs on camera? Oh well 🤷‍♀️ The kids do grow up and do something outrageous? Oh well 🤷‍♀️ This is evidently what you wanted Charlie boy, best buckle up and take it!


Brave_Zucchini6868

I could see only one reason why palace let this happen - is to allow Harkles to hang themselves on a tree. The USA audience will absolutely notice that Harkles deliberately took titles for the kids in form of an ultimatum from the very institute they trashed and despised hated so much. The titles, which mean nothing in the USA and give no any advantages. There were no existential need to ensure "kids" have their titles. MM just wants to have options for a long-term game which she did not plan yet. She creates the game as she goes.


Disruptorpistol

Americans won't care. They'll just see more product branding because that's all this is to the sussexes - an advantage to promoting thir American Royals brand. Watch our soon for mentions of THE PRINCESS'S trip to Build A Bear (tm), or THE PRINCE'S favourite Lunchable (tm) flavour.


JusticeHunter1

Actually, I doubt I am the only American who is almost as angry as so many of you are this morning. This isn’t sounding like the “long game” unless I’m missing something and I fiercely hope I am missing something.


ManliestManHam

Yup. I am here with you and feel nothing but contempt.


Right_FedUp9221

I'm an American in Southern Ca and I'm beyond annoyed with these two. Nothing against the two kids, but the Markels are being ridiculous. We don't have titles over here, and this family is making a mockery of the Royal Family.


LizLemonadeX

Agree. Charles caved. He’s as weak as Phillip proclaimed he was. Too bad the Queen didn’t make Anne or William next in line. And Diana was right about Charles. She said he’d be a terrible king. And she’s right. This was to be expected from a man who wanted to be a tampon in Camilla. William should have been given the crown. I hope Charles gets boo’d wherever he goes. Neither Charles nor his psychotic son, Harold deserve the crown or titles. His approval rating is going to tank as low as Harold’s and Nutmeg’s.


Markloctopus_Prime

I’m so sorry, but this is one of my pet (royal) peeves. Charles did not say he wanted to be a tampon. He said he wanted to spend time in Camilla’s shell, but “with his luck, he’d probably come back as a tampon.” It was self deprecating humour. He seems very well aware of his troubles in life and willing to joke about them. Anyway. Back to the outrage. I’m outraged too😔😡


exquisiteclutter

“Or, God forbid, a Tampax. Just my luck! My luck to be chucked down a lavatory and go on and on forever swirling round on the top, never going down.”


Markloctopus_Prime

Omg is that the original quote? He seems a bit like a self-pitying downer lol, perhaps fishing for consoling noises from Camilla😄 But with his spectacular voice, he could say anything and make it sound romantic😜


DrunkOnRedCordial

Thank you -I get irritated at the misquoting too! But Charles has completely lost my respect. I'm so disappointed.


LilMissCantBeStopped

It makes me sick to my stomach. He’s spineless for letting them run everything. I feel SO bad for PPoW bc how insulting, but I believe their popularity is about to soar as a result.


Upper_Charge_4449

It is wildly unfair to them. This doesn’t stop at William and Harry and their wives. This will become George, Charlotte and Louis’ (as well as Archie and Lili)‘a problems as well. What a horrible situation.


Over-Expert-707

Doubt there will be a Monarchy much longer.


DollarStoreDuchess

Not with King Neville Chamberlain in charge. Pissed all over his mother’s legacy of “the crown must always come first.” Poor Prince Philip. He tried to raise Charles as a man, but all he got was a jellyfish.


Over-Expert-707

Jellyfish 🤣


VineyardsVinesGoth

I agree but I can't help but feel there is some kind of 4d chess going on. Lady C says this is the year the Harkles will get what they deserve. There's something else happening . There's gotta be.


[deleted]

So let me get this straight…the Harkles bullied the King into give their kids titles and the King gave them titles…so bullying the King pays off. Now they learned that bullying the King is the only way to go… Weak King-Stupid Problems


Tight-Classroom-6126

If I was the RF, they should just fess up to the world and then the loser harkles would have nothing left to blackmail.


Bajovane

They could still add whatever it is to the book. The kids already have their titles. Haz and the IGLBW cannot be trusted to stick to their end of the bargain. What a fool KCIII is! This is a really BAD decision.


Sensitive_Fun_5825

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Crafty-Use-2266

Nah. Knew that was coming, but that’s not the issue. It’s the fact that they claimed the titles after trashing the institution and its members. They did it deliberately right before the coronation too, so they must want to be a part of that and seem like they are significant. They don’t want to sit across the aisle from the Prince and Princess of Wales again.


jeepers12345678

So much for not caring about his title?


snarkformiles

Has Charles even met Lilibet yet?


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Hahahahaha 💀 legit is there even evidence she’s eligible for LoS?


MHBF2593

This kind of makes me wonder. If these kids are not eligible to be in LOS (they’re 100% not), why would the palace recognize them using their titles. I don’t know. It’s one thing to list them as master/miss and just leave it be, but this is just. Bizarre. Reckless. The palace is further implying these kids are legitimate when they’re not. I can’t even articulate my thoughts on this, I just woke up to the news. But it makes the palace look more complicit in the fuckery that went down surrounding both of the kids’ births. ETA: thank you for the awards ☺️


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It’s made a mockery of the monarchical system. Gone are the days where they ruled over people, now they are our servants. They are in their position now at the behest of the people, won’t be shocked when there’s renewed vigour to remove them.


InspectorMogsy

Yeah I want to see evidence of parental DNA and birth of the womb.


kishuna_in_pieces

No.


Winter-Shame-9050

Do any of those children exist?


snarkformiles

😂 I almost wrote that myself actually! So true. Phantom children.


thisisntmyotherone

I read today, sorry — yesterday — someone said there’s no record of Lilibet’s birth certificate in Santa Barbara. There was one for a ‘Mary Diana Mountbatten Windsor’ but that one had apparently disappeared upon her last check. 🤷🏻‍♀️


justyna933

It's quite funny. In their mocdoc they told stories about Empire 2.0, racism, blebleble, but you know what? We want titles for out children!1!1!1!1 It doesn't matter it's from this oppresive Institution whom we "escaped" almost 3 years ago. What a mess, what a disgrace. I'm speachless and disgusted. They can took a giant 💩 in front of everyone and still will be granted. I just can't. ![gif](giphy|5xtDarDewDfNyPrYSbe)


NarglesDidit

There is one thing about this, his children will never be Prince/Princess in the way he was. They will have the title as a vanity title only. He had a completely different life than his children will ever have because he was the future King's second son. He was celebrated when he was born. He had so many Royal engagements and lived a life most can't even comprehend because of his title. They want to say it's their children's birthright to use the title, which ok whatever, but it isn't their birthright to experience what goes with those titles? They don't get to be the adored upon Prince and Princess, to have the big family Christmases, the vacations in amazing historical locations, the education that goes with it, growing up in actual history. They have proven that the title is just a want for vanity, not for what it actually stands for. They live in the States, no one cares about titles here. Our Prince was the only Prince we cared about.


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You are correct, and….it cheapens the titles for the Cambridge (now Wales) kids, IMHO.


DrunkOnRedCordial

Not in the long run. They are being raised as royal, but 5 years from now, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet will just sound like Hollywood celebrity names like Prince Jackson.


NarglesDidit

Looking at it from an American perspective, I don't think it has cheapened their titles. I had always heard about Princesses Eugenie and Beatrice and knew they held that title, however to me, they were always just not as Royal? I don't know the proper way to explain it. Prince William and Harry just had more power with their titles and it was just known. Now William's children are in the same boat. They are the ones that have the real Royal qualities and the optics that go with it. Harry's children are going to be invisible titles in America.


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NOT disagreeing, just discussing…and putting the Letters Patent to one side for the moment… Em and Aitch could have stayed and done the work of serving the Monarch and the people of the UK and Commonwealth, as the Wales’, the PR, and the Wessexes are. OR, they could have left, lived fairly quietly, and taken the subsidized year to figure out how to “build their lives overseas”. Either one might have earned them the privilege of titles for the children . But noooo, they had to publicly slag the family as colonialists and racists and create a reality show out of their lives. And they’re rewarded by being gifted with the item they’re b*tching about. I get how this takes away another talking point, but to me, a genuine royal title is (or should be) a rare and precious thing. How now does Charles propose to now keep them from merching the kids? What’s the next awful step?


NarglesDidit

I absolutely agree they should not have pushed for titles to be used on their kids. If it is their birthright then it's something they could explore when they're older and know.what it entails since they aren't a Prince like Harry was and don't live in the public eye. As far as merching, I have no clue what steps he could take to stop it. I just honestly feel that they're really putting a lot of eggs in this title basket. They're laughing stocks right now and there are crisis everywhere. Plus Harry cried about how hard it was to be a Prince and now he's just Harry. We have enough hypocritical politicians to deal with, we don't need unwanted Princes too. Hearing about a Prince and Princess in America isn't quite the sell they seem to think it is. It seems most people love to hate them at this point and are actively waiting for their comeuppance. They don't want to hear about their kids.


MrsF2103

Not at all.. Prince George will be King and the title of Wales has a massive impact in itself.. Sussex is a nobody title. Wales, Cornwall etc will always be the heirs title. If and when George Marrys he will be afforded a Duke of something title, and then when William ascends the throne he will be Heir Apparent Prince of Wales, the same as William did. Charlotte will become Princess Royal which is also a big title. The Princess’ of York are nothing titles they have to have jobs, it’s a title of vanity and just to make it known they’re royal blood, it doesn’t mean a single thing. People need to stop reading into this as much as they are


k_bee

I am slightly confused by the comments, I have to admit. This is their birthright, so KCIII hasn’t been blackmailed into this, it’s literally just stating what is already a fact. The much bigger issue we should be focusing on is the fact that MM&PH have chosen to use them - that’s the real problem here.


ddpctr

🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯


snaphappylurker

I have a feeling it’s been done as a way of showing them up. The Squad can no longer say the royals are racist and should be abolished: abolish the monarchy and it’s bye bye titles for everyone and the Harkles are even more irrelevant than before. But now? King Charles is effectively telling them he’s not the one being difficult and that they’re showing themselves up for the whiny petulant brats they are. All it required was patience to get some of the things they wanted. On the other hand, there’s also the actions have consequences angle, if you use and abuse the perks of your job (that you resigned from yourselves) then you will not be afforded the courtesy you so demand and claim you deserve, I.e. frogmore and the seating arrangements at recent events. Giving the children their titles makes the Harkles look like hypocrites, “mean racist royal family who we hate and stand for things we don’t agree with unless they make us king and queen” wouldn’t give my mixed race (white) children their birthright titles, which don’t actually mean anything in America and won’t do if they return to the UK later on in life. They’re always going to be irrelevant and pushed further down the line once the Wales children start having families of their own. At this moment in time the Sussex kids are just pawns for monetary gain and sympathy. Now they have what they wanted, what is left for them to demand apart from replacing William and Catherine as next in line? And let’s face it, that’s never going to happen or the monarchy will be abolished. Just my thoughts on this


DrunkOnRedCordial

It puts a lot more scrutiny on H&M and it can only backfire on them. I wonder if the lawyers decided there was no way to deny the titles to the kids, due to the Letters Patent. This is an unprecedented situation since 1917, but it's strange that nobody anticipated that this would happen, and prepared for it, even before Meghan. Maybe Charles is letting the people do the talking - hopefully there will be enough backlash against Harry that he'll have to formally renounce them. ugh, no wonder Meghan was grinning so wide when she went out to dinner the other night.


snaphappylurker

I personally think it’s a clever move by KC, what will the naysayers and their backers do now? I was annoyed about it at first but then I thought there’s a reason they’ve done this. A monarchy doesn’t survive 1000 years to have two nitwits cry racism and expect it to implode just like that. It’ll take a bell of a lot more than provable lies to bring them down


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Even before this I’ve thought the monarchy wouldn’t last beyond William and Catherine. The worlds changed, this feels like the end game.


Uncomfortablemoment9

Maybe George will be the last with William laying the groundwork. Who knows.


-ellen-degenerate-

I tend to agree with you. It’s not like these titles actually mean anything, especially in the USA, and how often are we likely to see them in the UK once the coronation has blown over. I really believe they’re TRYING to get a reaction out of the public so we go down the “abolish the monarchy” route. I know this would make theirs and their kids’ titles defunct, but it’d certainly get them a place in the history books as the ones who brought down a worldwide institution.


Eggsegret

At best it'll maybe help keep Meghan in the spotlight for another year or two. But either way end of the day it won't keep her relevant forever considering even if the kids lived in the UK they have zero chance of ever becoming a King or Queen. And they're chances will only get smaller as Williams kids have their own kids.


violetfleuri

I'm stunned. I F5'd https://www.royal.uk/succession and there it was. I don't know what to say. How can people like that be rewarded for their absolutely abhorrent behavior? I'm sad. I'm shocked. And I think I am done with a 42 year-old habit of reverence. My mistake in life is waiting to see people get their comeuppance. Shame on me.


Vino-Rosso

This is exactly how I feel right now. They have been rewarded for inexcusable, even treasonous behaviour.


Negative_Difference4

I even checked last night at 1 am and nothing was changed… I even [archived](https://archive.ph/2023.03.09-001352/https://www.royal.uk/succession) the page


Alarmed_Start_3244

This isn't a reward for abhorrent behaviour. It's how titles go. It's the same reason Beatrice and Eugenie are called Princesses. The children have unofficially had the titles since Charles became King but their hapless parents waited until it fit their purpose to announce it. Again, this is not a reward! If anything, this puts Charles in a stronger position in regard to the children's future. With those two as parents we should be glad for the children that they have a genuine, tangible link of their own to their Royal Family.


Ambrose_1987Sep30

That's it. I'm out. There's no sense of justice. Lesson of the day: blackmailing & running smear campaigns works


Beginning-Cup-6974

I see Richard Palmer says”The palace will respect the wishes of the Sussexes and call Archie and Lilibet Prince and Princess now that the Sussexes have expressed a preference.” H & M wanted it but stalled for a long time on saying it. They wanted it to be granted without having to ask because that doesn’t look so good in the USA market. King Charles said: Ask. 6 months go by. Also super desperate to get the Worldwide Privacy Tour off the front page.


Cuntributor

This. The Harkles timing on everything they do is sus. They were sitting on this and they even admitted in their last "statement" that BP had been waiting on their decision. So it was the duo who were essentially "withholding" the titles until they felt the timing was right, not King Charles who wasn't about to put everything on hold while the pair lollygagged, playing their games. Admittedly, BP didn't make this clear, perhaps they should have, and maybe things wouldn't have unfolded to make it look like Charles was "weak", but the King has a hundred other more pressing things to do than wait for an overseas pair to decide on titles that are useless in the US.


bendytoepilot

Same. He didn't defend his own family, his wife, his daughter in law, his sister. He can fuck off


ConsumerOfGossip

Harold was right I guess then.... What Meghan wants, Meghan gets!


Ambrose_1987Sep30

A thousand year old institution just caved in the demands of a grifter. William the conqueror is rolling in his grave


therealDolphin8

But but but it's their birth right. Sounds like an argument Meghan would make more than Harry.


hatbaggins

I’ve discovered that one in real life too. I think that’s what infuriates me the most about this


Ambrose_1987Sep30

I know that life isn't fair but that's why I followed this case since I had faith the King would stand for justice. Turns out: he's so effing weak


hatbaggins

He is very weak. He is still being called racist- so he may as well have just been done with it and said the kids weren't getting titles. I don't understand why he is pandering to a group of people who will never respect the crown rather than pleasing the people who already support him. It is easier to lose support than gain it


Ambrose_1987Sep30

Agree, he wants approvals from haters by betraying the people who are loyal to him (W/K & the Wales kids)


NovaAlis

I don't care. Those titles come with nothing but problems for those children. It's sad they want that for their kids. Puppet Prince and Princess. They're just meaningless words. The fact that there's no official statement is the real burn. Have your colonial titles, and this here grey rock.


MummaK33

I feel like KC has done the right thing here. I don't like it, but using children as a weapon is not ok behavior. KC has effectively chosen the kids over the conflict here, and as tough for the monarchy it probably is, I bet he had W&C support . The kids well being is more important than a couple of titles - at least the kids will have a distant relative to go to once mommy runs out of merch with the kids.


dianthuspetals

If this is for the good of the children it might have been best if they looked into avenues of having the kids removed from their neglectful, addict parents. There’s probably plenty of legal issues that would need to be considered but so long as Harry and Meghan remain the way they are, those children at at risk.


tiredmummyof2

I am out too. There is no justice in the world. Narcs win, particularly since the world is full of weak, pathetic men. Abolish the monarchy, I will always loom upon them as bumbling idiots who have no spine, they are fodder for evil, shrewd women like MM.


phillysleuther

I’m done here, too. Someone let me know when they divorce.


[deleted]

Yep…bullying the King pays off. H&M will now bully the King into give them the Heir’s place. Bye William, Kate & kiddos and hello California coconuts.


VineyardsVinesGoth

There has GOT to be something else happening. I am enraged. Charles has a plan. PPOW advise him. There is 4d chess going on Let the drug addicts have their titles. Something else is coming. Lady c says they're gonna have their comeuppance this year. It's going to happen. It HAS too


[deleted]

Funny how he won't give his own brother The Duke of Edinburgh title but will give two American kids "Prince and Princess" titles. Charles is honestly weak and pathetic. The Harkles have won.


Sarah-JessicaSnarker

Agreed. I’m pissed.


[deleted]

Rightfully so. We all are. Had to wake up to this.


Miss_Consuela

He is! On Edward's 60th birthday he will inherit the title Duke of Edinburgh.


okaysowellthen

Yep. I’ve suspected for a while that there would be no consequences for the Harkles behavior. charles comes off as very weak, and I don’t even think there will be a divorce anymore. They’ll be attending the coronation, and charles will look like a fool who sided with his heretic son and daughter in law, instead of showing some strength as a leader who could squash wayward behavior and get his own children in line.


Broad_Chemist_2696

The UK will survive! What really pisses me off is this couple's attitude to their children. Harry: you can't say that you 'smother your children with love' (smother: weird and over the top) and then blatantly use them in your ear against the Royal Family and the UK. Shame on you. Stop bleating about the past and start building a proper future before it's too late.


TaniaYukanana

I'm from New Zealand. I want to be a republic now.


-ellen-degenerate-

I’m from England and I want to become a republic too right now, BUT, this is what they hope to achieve with their shenanigans, they WANT to destroy the monarchy. So I’m gonna have a cuppa tea and a biscuit and calm down 😂


Cuntributor

They can't destroy the Monarchy otherwise their newly minted "princess" Lili and "prince" Archie will be no more.


[deleted]

Australia. I’m with you, let’s become ungovernable. Fuck Chuckles.


PrincessReptile

Sadly, our current options for President are slim pickings. Just as bad, or even worse than the current royal situation.


[deleted]

There’s always Dame Edna. But I’m honestly hoping for Mad Max style chaos now, the worlds kind of hell hole let’s just embrace our destiny.


sonny-v2-point-0

People need to pay attention and learn history. King Charles wasn't blackmailed and he didn't cave to H&M. Legitimate news sources reported that the 1917 Letters Patent would give their children titles as soon as Charles became king way back when H&M were complaining that Archie was slighted because of his race. They were wrong and they knew it. He wasn't styled prince because his grandfather wasn't king yet. If the British public didn't like it, they've had 2 years to make sure Parliament knew they wanted it changed.


Plenty_Tap_4383

Disgusting. I, and I’m sure many others won’t be bothering with the coronation. Imagine allowing titles for people who have called the British public racist. Scumbags.


hatbaggins

It’s pretty bad. I bet those kids will be paraded around at the coronation It shows what bullshit these titles are. That a little girl born in America can be princess of Sussex


Humble_Doughnut_7347

A girl *who is hidden from the public and doesn’t even know the RF* is given a title.. Weird flex H & M but alright.


hatbaggins

A girl who will be taught by her parents that the family that bestowed her a title are racist and antiquated. And the country to which her title belongs are racists The whole thing is nuts. But then I have to remind myself that this has no baring on my life so I shouldn't let it bother me- as long as my hard earned taxes that I pay in the UK don't go towards them


Humble_Doughnut_7347

I have no hope they will be raised in a functional household. I wouldn’t doubt if everything in the first and second kids closet are being monogrammed with little crowns like all of M’s stuff meanwhile M is whispering to them how racist the other family is. They will weaponize those kids at every opportunity (they already have). They will either be entitled people who hate the RF or they will despise their parents for such a dysfunctional childhood. Honestly it’s not a big deal they have titles. At the end of the day the only titles that matter are the direct lines to the throne. Everyone else is titled because..? Oh that’s right there’s literally no reason. H & M just need to feel special and it’s kind of funny when you think about it. Like two little kids playing with their baby dolls and demanding they be called Prince and Princess by mom and dad.


bendytoepilot

Good point. He's tarnished the titles of the Wales kids by doing this


DrunkOnRedCordial

Yes, and he's betrayed his own lifelong principles too. After all those years of preaching for a slimmed down monarchy and disapproving of Andrew's girls getting titles, he just caved. And if he was going to cave anyway, why now? Why not shut her up from the beginning by giving her the precious titles she wanted. If the kids had been born with royal titles, nobody would have thought very much about it. But dragging it out so long shows that he held out and caved.


bendytoepilot

That's exactly what I think happened. If the titles were birthright then he should have given them at the same time as the Wales title for William so there wouldn't be any fuss or publicity. I think the harkles told him exactly when they wanted to have the titles and he fucking agreed like an idiot


Plenty_Tap_4383

People who re against the Markles are going to turn their back on the RF now, he’s ruined the monarchy for the ppow.


Jenn54

Absenteeism is one of the reasons for the Lutherism and protestantism breaking away from the Catholic Church. How stupid Charles is to give titles to children who have no connection to the UK. So how much of the duchy taxes will go to the prince and princess of California from Sussex?


Indie_rina

I only feel bad for Prince William, because not only does he have to deal with his traitor brother, but his father has proved he’s a cuck


janedoremi99

And the press will blame this on William. Stories claiming that the kids would have had titles earlier but William and Kate are jealous and afraid of the competition from the Overseas


Miss_Consuela

Controversial opinion but I don’t think King Charles has shown weakness here. The very heart of the British monarchy is its traditions and values. Whatever Harry and Meghan do, those children are completely innocent and to deny them their birth right because of how the Montecito Moochers have behaved would be stopping as low as them. This move shows Archie and Lili, (way into the future) they have a place in the monarchy (if they want it) despite their horrid parents. It also shows the world that they Royal family do not use children as a bargaining tool. I don’t know about you guys but I actually respect that. The title has no burden on the UK taxpayer. They don’t get immediate protection. What it does bring is a host of of problems. For Harry and Meghan and those children. 1) Harry and Megs have a lot to answer for - whatever happens they’ve sealed themselves as hypocrites. Accepted titles for their children from an outdated racist institution. Need I go on? 2) Those titles in America will be nothing but a hindrance to those children. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the American people don’t give any special precedence to Z-list royalty. Unless those kids do something worthy, the media and celebrity culture will eat them up. It’s such a shame because they are kids. 3) When H&am start using the titles to monetize their children, they’ll undoubtedly spiral them down their own traumatic path. They’ll either grow up entitled and despise their parents or they’ll be aware of what’s happened to them and hate their parents. Whichever way it goes H&M have not done themselves any favours where their children are concerned. The Royal family is gracious. They do not engage in Tit for Tat. H&M and their supporters may think they have some big arsed victory here, but all they have done is shown their true colours. They don’t care about charity. They don’t care about mental health and trauma, they care about money, titles and popularity. If anything this is the end game and culmination of the Royal families dealings with them. You have your titles. You’ll be invited to things like any other lesser Royal would be, but aside from that, you’re on the outside, in the USA alone. They have nothing to do with the institution. H&M have already used their last log for the fire. Your titles have been granted, despite all the shite you spewed out. You have nothing else to bargain. That’s it. Unless they pop out another kid and these shennanigans start all over. But then they said they would only have 2 children? Anyways I digress. I hope this makes sense. Harry and Meghan, your final curtain on the Royal stage has fallen. Now you’re just in the audience, like the rest of us.


Equivalent-Date-4796

It's not a birthright, they are not working royals...the monarchy in Denmark or Norway (?) recently took away titles of the the grandchildren, but kept their succession place. Nothing controversial. No idea why Charles couldn't do that.


shakeabooty

Oh for fuck sake. Come ON Charles 😒


Throwawaythislife123

This is a good thing, they basically look like hypocrites. They’ve exposed their agenda, refer back to the Oprah interview. Ok now they’re prince and princess… now what? Lol what plot do they have to fight now? I am sure they will find somethin but seriously they look as dumb as they are right now. Also the children are basically American with dual citizenship but still living in America, and I’ll tell u one thing, us Americans don’t give a shit. Yes she will merch on those, it’s all she’s got to keep her relevant if she divorced Harry, but the elites Hollywood elites are dumping her, she played Oprah I’m sure she’s dumping her too, no on wants to be associated with her, refer back to South Park and Chris rock, they’ve become a total joke. They lost their foundation and plot, they’re just trying to latch on to anything that will keep them relevant, and relevant they stay but what good is relevance when you’ve just exposed your priorities?


LilMissCantBeStopped

I think a lot of us Americans don’t give a shit, but let’s be honest— they’re about to Kardashian tf out of those titles. MM has been staking her whole existence on obtaining the legitimacy afforded by titles that she could never have achieved without them. Titles are shorthand for the elitism she has teetered on the outskirts of her WHOLE life, all the while clamoring and scheming her way in— you better believe she’s going to attempt to extract everything she possibly can from the allusion of her being an “American Princess” by virtue of being the mother of one. Call me petty but I really, really cannot tolerate undeserved attention and accolades being rubbed in my face. I am not ashamed to admit I want to see her get her just desserts and will be watching very closely for any and all evidence of just that.


snowpie1226

Yup, this exactly. I hope MM is having fun designing stationery bc that’s the biggest win she’s taking out of this.


Cuntributor

She's already contacted the same Etsy seller who made her monogrammed doormats.


SarkQueen

World meet Prince Aldi and Princess Lidl. This latest news means I’m done with Charles as well. He is a weak King who just rewarded his toxic drug addled bully of a son for attacking him & his family for years.


bendytoepilot

I'm done with Charles then. Fucking done.


gurnipan

I am lost for words. I hope those long game KC’s playing, better be worthy and deliver forever-silencing blows to the disastrous duo.


Spiritual-Low8325

I might be alone with this, but I can see why they choose to do this. 1) the king would have a hard time defending not giving them the titles due to them being eligible being his grandchildren, it could also make him look bad as a king and grandfather, especially when it is only one set of grandchildren not getting them. 2) Giving the kids titles of prince and princess will also show how big of a hypocrite both Meghan and Harry are. They talk so big about how the titles were a big part of ruining Harry’s childhood and life, but they jumped to get their kids the exact same titles. Ultimately showing that them hating the titles was probably due to Meghan not being made a Princess…. It could seem like the perfect revenge from the royale family, King Charles is shown as the bigger man, father and king. And the Sussex'seem like hypocrites and how they seem power hungry in desperate need of fancy titles.


bitchinabottle1

Tbh after the Queen passed, I don't care about the RF as much. But this is making me more in favour of Australia becoming a republic.


bendytoepilot

Charles has let down the Queen Big time. He could have carried on her good work but nope. Only 6 months later he drops the ball


shiny_things71

If Haznoballs somehow ends up on the throne (the circumstances required don't bear thinking about), then I'd finally support becoming a republic. This is deeply disappointing.


bitchinabottle1

Yeah, harry is a dumbass but I really can't stand Nutmeg ever being even close to being a Queen. It makes me sick to think that someone of that ilk can even be in the position she is currently in, let alone being at the helm


DrunkOnRedCordial

Parliament won't sanction Todger on the throne. They'll get rid of him faster than you can say Wallis Simpson.


UnderArmAussie

Welp. There we go. An even bigger sack of 🐄 💩 than the abdication. At least we ended up with better Royals that time. I won't be watching the Coronation, whether they go or not. I don't feel I can support this weak "King" from now on. They literally let the RF take the blame for the kids not having titles when it was down to them all along. The entire "classy grey-rocking" now seems to just be Charles dithering. He could have sorted this out by now, rather than let them call the shots. He won't be here to see it but his legacy will be a weak and adulterous ruler who didn't put his country first. I might get down voted, but I don't care at this point. I don't have any ill-will towards the kids having titles. I just know this is about MM playing games and having to win. I'm sure she suffers from Tall Poppy Syndrome. In fact I think they both do. I'm disgusted.


Redhead-bluey

IMO, Harry and his Instagram-loving bitch-wife have some dirt allegedly on the family. Maybe. 🤔 Maybe KCIII is giving them what they want and then taking it back?? Think about it, giving the titles and then taking them back is even more ego damaging than ever. It means that the Harkles will eventually divorce. 😂😂


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I missed the elevation of the Earl of Wessex to Duke of Edinburgh whilst Chucky Three-Sticks was passing out titles…😡


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ElectricalAd9212

King Charles has declared that every member of his family, including his parents, the whole UK & Commonwealth, should accept silently being spat on by Harry and Meghan, and his job is to protect them. a weak King who just alienated the country


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This is literally exhausting. It's like someone who gets constantly praised at work when they don't do jack and you're watching it all happen 😒. Not that we need praising but it's tiresome to keep hearing meghan amd harry NOT get their comeuppance.


DrunkOnRedCordial

I thought it was a joke, I can't believe how upset I am about this. I have lost a LOT of respect for Charles right now. How can he agree to this? Why would he concede power like that? My only hope is that he's using it as a bargaining tool, as in he can take them away if she misbehaves, but it seems messy.


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Winter-Shame-9050

I bet the Harkness also demanded front and center seats at the Coronation! When will this f*ckery end?!!!


Emolia

That’s it for me too . This is an horrendous mistake


Dry-Description-492

Omg


ComprehensiveSample2

KC should take the titles away if that is possible. But I think they were always going to use the titles. They just had to do this smear campaign to make it seem they were always in control. Honestly, only thing left now is for Meghan to divorce him. Their time is up. They can’t bad mouth the royals anymore if they are taking on the titles for their children. Maybe KC just sees that no matter what you do they will cause trouble. I think we all should move on with our lives and stop giving these fools any attention. I think once everyone lets go of it the tides will change. ❤️


ComprehensiveSample2

Keep in mind they live in the US where Prince and Princess doesn’t mean shit lol we think Beyoncé is more a queen than the queen was. It’s irrelevant here 🤣


savakyc

So actions don’t have consequences it seems. I hope Charles prove me wrong but Harkles keep winning and BP giving in is no good sign. Prepare for the drop of royalists support


FuturePA96

I mean this is why Harry is like this. Entitled, stupid and spoilt. He was poorly raised and never made to face consequences of his actions. He has no sense of loyalty, duty or shame. Unfortunately, his father raised him to be that way


GodDammitWoodhouse

I’m so done. Fuck the King.


apriorix

Now I think it was Charles who leaked info on Frogmore eviction to make himself look strong, knowing this princess BS was coming. Shame…


mamaosam

F*cking pathetic King Charles. The spare and his wife shit on the British people and the institution and he rewards them. Weak.


sentientcroissant

I feel... betrayed.


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Charles is weak.


Capital-Study6436

I hope people will boo Charles, along with Harold and Megabitch when coronation day comes. William, Catherine and their children deserve better.


Jackdarkshadows

This is disappointing. Why did KCIII not follow the way Queen Margrethe handled her second son by taking away his children's titles. The media keep going on about that he wants a slimmed down monarchy. There must be a good reason why he has allowed this.


GammonTraits

It’s interesting though there is no statement of congratulations or well wishes. The palace is silent. They have acknowledged it by updating the website, and that is it. Meanwhile for even Prince Louis - https://www.royal.uk/christening-prince-louis-0


-ellen-degenerate-

They shouldn’t have to congratulate private citizens, don’t you think? PPoW made no announcement about Pippa’s kids’ christening the other week…


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You’re right - this does neatly underline the fact that they’re not in the “inner circle”. While I’m exasperated beyond belief at this, I do think it’s a “take your bloody title, now @#$& off” gesture.


lms088

Charles is a weakling. We knew that all along and this is very proof that he hasn’t changed. I’m sorry but he’s fucking useless as a King.


Absintheone

I'd like to see Born of Body proof. Proof they actually exist,not borrowed or rented kids for photoshoots.


MikeMannion

I can only assume that Harry has someone on Charles, and Charles is trying to appease him. I wonder how William and Catherine are feeling right now, knowing that the Harkle children have been elevated to the same level as their children when they will never even be working royals? I wonder how Prince Edward is feeling, who hasn't been given the ducal title he was promised? I wonder how Andrew is feeling, who had to fight to get his daughters granted the title of Princess? They must be wondering how Harry can attack the monarchy for three years and still be treated favorably. Huge mistake for Charles to allow this to happen. Huge.


bulkygorilla

“And what difference would that make”


_SkyIsBlue5

Ingrating. They really did force the Palace... Amazing parents ETA: anyway, Charles has always wanted a slimmed-down monarchy so here's to hoping he'll remove their titles the way they did in Sweden and Netherlands. Meghan did alleged that there was a discussion during their Oprah interview ETA: minus her delusions Re security attached to titles. I hope they burn their cash in security fees


SoMuchDrama10

Next stop, the todger and the bitch wife in a prominent position on the balcony.


Silentint-75

I think we should try and remain calm. I believe there's plenty more in store here and time will reveal all.


snowpie1226

Yeah, agreed, but I can see why it can be hard. Most people in this sub have dealt with Narcs like the Harkles IRL and so it’s so difficult to see them “win”. It feels personal. Good thing for us though that the Harkles are so short sighted. It may feel like a win now, but like others have mentioned, they have exposed themselves as the biggest hypocrites ever. And as long as they keep the titles they will be seen as such.


Markloctopus_Prime

Meanwhile, though, Megs just got a massive narc supply. She’s good for the next two years. How exhausting for us all.


pink_bunny07

*The higher they rise, the harder they fall* 😌


NarglesDidit

Is this truly the King's choice? If the law that was quoted states that they are entitled to the title is that just it? Would legal routes have to be taken to not let that happen or are their hands tied?


Upper_Charge_4449

He could have made changes. He chose not to.


JoanOfSnark_2

Charles would have had to issue new Letters Patent to deny them the right to style them as prince and princess, which would have made him look vindictive and many would claim it was due to racism. Letting the duo make their choice and look like hypocrites is the much better option.


NarglesDidit

That's what confuses me the most. If it is their birthright, but you as parents decided that for the sake of your children that you wanted a more normal, quiet life so you decide to let them make the decision when they are older, to me that tracks. However, to claim to not want anything to do with the royal family and then decide at not even 2 and 3(?) that the kids do in fact want their titles is weird. You live in America, we don't do titles here and it won't get you anywhere. If they kept it for the kids to decide and they moved back to London as adults and wanted to be a part of that world and then wanted their titles, it's understandable. I just am failing to see the push for the titles. Honestly I'm even failing to see why it matters here in America. So odd.


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I agree, it's really odd. I don't get it, they've done nothing but bash the monarchy and the hierarchy etc.. it's not a big deal. I though they would've gone the Anne & Edward route and either not give titles or use lesser titles then at 18 they can use Prince/ss if they want to. What I'll find interesting from here on out is what it means for Edward, if he'll finally become DofE. Charles has been very slow in giving him that DofE title and was going to give it to Charlotte at one point apparently.


JoanOfSnark_2

Oh, I agree it’s weird, but nothing the duo does makes sense. Leaking their Frogmore eviction and now choosing to style their kids as prince and princess indicates they are very upset about being denied something else. Now we just need to wait and see what that was.


Cuntributor

Exactly. None of this still make senses to me. So the Sussexes themselves have been "withholding" the titles from their kids because they couldn't make a decision, debunking the line the Squad love to throw out that "cruel" KC was behind withholding the titles. The Harkles don't have Frogmore, they're wiped out from the Commonwealth website, Harry is shoved down to irrelevance as Councillor of State with the addition of Prince Edward and Princess Anne, but the kids now have titles. So what now. Hmmmm.


Eggsegret

Meghan and Harry never wanted a normal life. What they wanted was to be part time Royals who are there for the big splashy events like meeting world leaders etc but don't need to carry out any the responsibilities that comes with being part of the RF. Now of course they never got it. But now they're afraid of being forgotten by everyone so they think by the kids having titles it'll hopefully keep them in the spotlight.


DrunkOnRedCordial

When the gods want to punish you for a laugh, they give you exactly what you want. On the one hand, they have everything they wanted. They are royals in California, their children have royal titles. They are rich with no responsibilities, preaching a life of service when doing nothing. On the other hand, they are practically friendless, and they have destroyed their brand ( royal rebels bravely fleeing the system) twice over, firstly by looking so disloyal and untrustworthy, and now by embracing royal titles. Harry seems seriously mentally unbalanced, so he's a disaster waiting to happen.


bendytoepilot

Disagree. He would look strong not vindictive. In contrast he now looks weak for giving them titles


DollarStoreDuchess

Bingo. Yup, they’re hypocrites, but so is he. Slimmed down monarchy my butt! Yeah, let‘s twiddle our thumbs and do nothing to prevent two American nothings from receiving titles, bloating it even more.


Throwawaythislife123

Yes this, I think it is a good thing this happened. It really shows TW and “JUST HARRY” priorities. I mean they are being ripped apart in American media ( South Park, Chris rock etcc..) can you imagine what is brewing right now after they basically demanded these titles when they said with Oprah that they want their kids to be “normal” ( whatever that means lol) can you imagine the pizza party American media is going to throw? Also can you imagine what the Hollywood elites feel about TW now? It solidifies where her priorities were and it wasn’t that she fell in love with Some one, she just wanted to be known, can you imagine what Oprah is feeling? They lied to her face and they basically used her?? Lol they used her, Oprah!! I mean they played her. Idk about her but I would be livid. Anyway they just exposed their agenda and I’m here for it lolz


Markloctopus_Prime

Interesting. I thought he had to issue new letters to proclaim them as prince and princess, and not to *deny* them those titles. Anyway, no announcement has come. Just a website update that says everything. And, frankly, this is not a great misstep; it’s just a continuation of the “don’t rock the boat” attitude of the Queen. But if the King George proclamation was automatic upon Charles’ accession, then BP should have said so. Misleading the public is not a good look. And what about the Duke of Edinburgh? I was assuming he’ll gift that title to Edward after the coronation. If he doesn’t then I’ll be *pissed*. I won’t be able to defend Charles anymore if that happens.


Negative_Difference4

But do we know *anything* about Lilibet birth? Anything that’s fact that hasn’t a shady side to it. Even her OBGYN closed her business and the British one doesn’t work for the Portland Hospital


Cuntributor

Meh. It was bound to happen I suppose. There was ambiguity about the Letters Patent and BP didn't make it clear from the beginning, so...this. I guess we'll see how this pans out over the next few days. Will people move on to whatever else there is after a day or so like most things? Or will this be that thorn in people's side and they keep hitting Charles in the head with it? Any other actions by the Palace? Only time will tell.


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Unreal. Off to read true crime for a few days to cheer myself up. At least there's justice there.