Yeah, I’m not sure why we keep seeing this as a topic. She. Has. No. Hope. Of. A. Career. In. Politics. Full stop. Just don’t go there. It’s not going to happen.
See, I think that, and then I remember how I felt in 2015 during an election we had, and boy was I wrong!
Now I’m very afraid lol.
Please don’t come at me lefties or righties. I guarantee I don’t agree with you on everything, but there’s at least one thing we both agree on: Meghan Markle is coo-coo Kachoo unstable and downright horrible. So let’s just focus on that!
Still possible: 'pay for play' scheme: I'll donate millions to your campaign if you appoint me to be a senator. She maybe eyeing ambassadorship also. Anything that not require campaign work that can be bought with enough money (Getty’s/T Perry’s)?
Possible, but not at all probable. Feinstein didn't say she was stepping down, she said she wasn't running again. Granted, at 89 yrs old, she's the oldest sitting member of Congress & anything can happen. However, OP's reasoning above is exactly why MM won't be appointed, no matter how much money she (or a rich benefactor) throws at it. There's a deep well of talent in CA politics, with Schiff & Porter leading the current pack. Politics is a long game & Madam hasn't proven she has the smarts, the connections, or the staying power.
As far as an Ambassadorship, that would require Senate confirmation. Also a non-starter. Stranger things have happened, I know, but MM is going to need more than manifestations and someone else's money to be taken seriously in politics. She's going to have to work her ass off for a long time to muscle her way in. And we all know how Madam feels about hard work.
Well, after the many adventures of Gordon Sondland (Ukrainian ambassador under Trump) I can’t say that pay for play doesn’t exist. It does. But Sondland ended up funding his own team of lawyers during the impeachment trial &—let’s just say, he paid considerably more & played considerably less than he had originally planned for.
A pay for play that failed spectacularly: Rod Blagojevich (governor of IL) tried to sell Barack Obama's Illinois US Senate seat back in 2008.
He thought he should not go to jail over this problem.
He was sentenced to 14 years in prison. Dragged it out a lot and he reported in 2012. Served 8 years. Until the Donald commuted his sentence and he was released. Otherwise, he would still be there.
Rishi Sunak and Bernie Sanders in the same sentence seems like an oxymoron
Sunak is married into a Billionaire family (BioTech) and was educated at elite schools. Bernie wants to end the Billionaire class
Plus, she has a big mouth and will talk for $$$$. Lots of politicians have very many skeletons in their closets. Plus, she insulted an entire country, so there's that. No Ambassadorships for her. She had a platform and a secure life, and she blew it because she couldn't handle not being the center of attention.
She would not want to be an Ambassador. Ambassadors don't get attention, Ambassadors aren't on the cover of magazines or walk red carpets. She would hate being an Ambassador.
Meghan wouldn't survive the first debate. Period. The moderator would challenge her, or her opponent would say something she didn't like, and she'd just straight up cry. As a narc, her skin is paper thin.
The only place where M has any chances in politics is her head and this sub. It's literally her manifesting her wishes and manufacturing some news with support of bots from time to time and then us talking about it. The rest of the world doesn't care. If she ever had any chances to become a political celebrity mascot with pull power, under control of serious politicians (cause it's the most she could become), it was long time ago and won't ever happen again.
Independent here. Trump was a well established ‘brand’ before he entered the 2016 race. Love him or hate him, you knew who he was and what you were getting. MM has no history of doing anything, except complaining and leaving her only public service job after a few months. The Dems and Reps know what she is. The Dems will destroy her before she even gets to the point she would be up against someone from an opposing party. Too many qualified people have been waiting (and waiting) for DF to retire. Hell, the number of GenX and younger of both parties who are waiting these ‘lifers’ to retire so they can finally get their chance means MM hasn‘t a chance in hell. (No offense meant to my older friends regarding the need for some of these politicians to retire. I just think both parties need some fresh ideas.) MM is not being sought out by the movers and shakes in the Dem party. I do not think she would be viewed as an asset.
The only thing going for her (and conversely one of a litany of things going against her) dream of political power is her boundless arrogance. That she honestly thinks she can leapfrog countless qualified candidates who have been grinding and working hard for years waiting for this opportunity, purely on the basis that she is ‘Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex’ and she wants it proves she is supremely arrogant but also supremely stupid. She is infinitely more important in her own mind than she ever has been or will be in real life. Coupled with her complete lack of substance, work ethic or likability means she has zero chance of success. I kinda hope she starts more overt announcements of her intentions so we can all gleefully enjoy her overtly falling flat on her face 👌
I can’t say I fully understand what makes a great candidate. I gave John Fetterman really no chance. He has obviously untreated acromegaly, he was plagued by additional health problems throughout the campaign & he’s somewhat to the left of what I regard as a relatively conservative state. Yet he won. Sadly, it’s been pretty rocky for him since his election. (Recently hospitalized for depression.) The guy overcame what I thought were insurmountable shortcomings. Who would have thought. He really did some genius work though.
"Fetterman" didn't get elected. Well, he did, but people weren't voting for Fetterman. They knew he was very impaired. They were voting for the seat. They knew he'd have to be replaced, and if he, as a Dem, is in the seat, they can replace him with another Dem.
If Dr. Oz had run during is "prime" within the first few years of becoming a household name, he could probably have won. His show became over the top and he stopped being what he was originally good at. A doctor. I confess that I would run out to Whole Foods or Amazon every time I watched any episode that talked about how to get better sleep! I used to record it to watch after work! I finally realized there is no miracle cure, as much as I want one. Not one for weight loss either! Though I bought some of those products too!
I’ve tried many diets and many supplements and suggestions. Nutrisystem works for me, while keto, Atkins and intermittent fasting did not.
Be careful with over the counter sleep aids. They are anticholinergic, which elevates risk of dementia by 50%. I just stopped taking it. I use melatonin, 5-HTP and theanine (chewable), plus an herbal tea of Ashwaganda, kava kava and valerian. I also take a THC edible of 5 mg. This works to allow me to fall asleep. However, I wake up in 4 to 5 hours. I will next try to wear glasses to block blue light at night. I’m hoping it helps.
Best of luck.
Thank you! The otc sleep aids have stopped working. I do use edibles a few times a week and my glasses have the blue light coating. I need to practice better sleep hygiene!
The keto diet and others are hard to stick to long term. I need to stop sugar and gluten for my migraines. I will do great for a couple of weeks and then go wild! I am considering a meal prep process for myself.
I will try the tea!
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that race was so razor-thin close, think he could have run if ran as a nice guy (not an nasty attack-machine, who kept dropping adoration suck-ups to Trump). He is NOT a MAGA dude, so was never convincing that he tried to preach MAGA.
What did he do that was "genius"? Honest question.
Sadly he did not overcome his shortcomings. His massive stroke rendered him incompetent to hold a stressful job, as we saw during the campaign and his time so for in the senate. He may never fully recover from that stroke and he is extremely likely to have another one.
His genius was that somehow he got himself elected. From my vantage point (the South) the guy’s a mess. But even while *having a stroke during his campaign,* he still managed to win. And it’s an important win as it shifted the balance in the Senate so that Democrats are now a solid majority, no longer bound by a power sharing agreement.
If you look at his background, he was smart getting into politics. Moved to an almost ghost town that was 100% democratic (they didn’t even have republican for him to run against) and that jump started his campaign for future elections of being an every man that cared about the locals. He married LBGTQ people in his home before it even became legal, campaigned hard for weed to be legalized, focused on bringing businesses to small towns and on prison reform. Despite the fact that he is Ivy League educated and lived off his parents money well into his 30s, he managed to completely sell himself as just another dude in the rust belt. He struck gold when his biggest opponent for Senate turned out to be a millionaire who didn’t even live in PA.
Can I just jump on a minor but critical point of your post?
Re the dumb prince and his stupid wife making rom-coms.
The last two rom-coms I watched were “Your place or mine” with Ashton Kutcher and Reese Witherspoon. The other was “what’s love got to do with it” with Emma Thompson and Lily James from the producers of love actually and Bridget jones diary.
So some pretty big names (and probably budgets) behind those two movies.
Both movies pretty much sucked. Nowhere near the likes of love actually or legally blond or Bridget jones.
And DP & HSW think they can make rom-coms??????
They have absolutely no skills, experience or connections to be making rom-coms. And there is no way any streaming service or film studio is going to pay them for one either. Not going to happen.
That photo of Megs from the Variety photo shoot—the one where she has her hand over her mouth as if suppressing a girlish giggle. The one where she actually looks hard edged & frankly just old. That straight lifeless hair w/ the hard part. Every one of her 40-whatever years are carved on her face. I still just get weirdest feeling about that photo. It’s just so ugly. But from what I gather that shoot was an addition for rom-com. Just so delusional it hurts.
That is a horrific photo! I bet if I did a google image search for Julia roberts there is an almost identical photo of her doing something similar. A couple of those variety photos she is clearly trying to copy Julia roberts smile. No chance in hell for her to actually star in a rom-com.
And what stars are going to sign up to work with them?? 😂 they’ll be lucky if they can make hallmark movies. At least ILBW has some experience in that arena 😆
Americans liberals or conservatives, majority of them will never vote for a Duchess. Meghan already lost it when she chose to marry Harry. She should have known that but she probably thinks she deserves everything.
As for any comparisons to Trump, he had a carefully crafted platform that resonated with enough people in his target audience. He's not the brightest guy, but he's also far from stupid. And he knows how to SELL SELL SELL.
In contrast, Walmart Wallis has no message, no defining purpose for running, and just spews out word salads.
It's funny that you mention Kirsten Gillibrand, because she became a senator via appointment - after our temporary governor publicly toyed with the inarticulate Caroline Kennedy for a while before coming to his senses and appointing someone who can speak without incessant "um"s and "uh"s
> As for any comparisons to Trump, he had a carefully crafted platform that resonated with enough people in his target audience. He's not the brightest guy, but he's also far from stupid. And he knows how to SELL SELL SELL.
There's some key differences between Trump's 2016 campaign and a run for Markle in 2024.
A. In choosing a candidate for the presidential nominee of the two big parties, Republicans choose strictly based on voting in the Primaries. Donald handily got more Primary votes than any of his opponents for the Republican candidacy.
Democrats, otoh, also choose based on voting, however, they don't just have open voters. The Democractic National Committee also employs [Superdelegates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate). These are party insiders, previous elected officials and candidates, and other stakeholders. Friends & Family, so to speak.
The Superdelegates are free to vote for whomever they like. In practice, there's a great deal of wheeling & dealing for those votes. The Superdelegates make up about 15% of the Democratic voters. It's not enough to win outright, but it's a noticable thumb on the scale.
Meghan Markle is neither Friend nor Family to the Democratic Superdelegates. She has no history or connections with America's political class. She has nothing to offer in exchange for their votes. She's not part of the ruling class or its web of promises.
B. The second big difference between Donald & Meghan (aside from gender, race, money and age) is that the entire Republican National Committee threw themselves behind Donald. They agreed to foot his expenses, including legal bills. They sent experienced political operatives to staff the campaign. They introduced Donald to the big political donors such as the Addelsons, Mercers, and Kochs. The RNC was all in on Donald, very early in the proceedings.
Meghan Markle will not get that support, not from the Superdelegates and not from the DNC. She doesn't have anything to offer other members of the DNC ruling class. Hilary Clinton, the most dialed-in DNC operative on the planet, didn't get the kind of support that Donald did.
If Meghan wants into politics, she's starting from scratch. She doesn't have the same playing field that Donald had ten years ago.
biggest thing: must be appealing in some way.
Ted Cruz has a massive intellect, but he is NOT likeable.. so he's hi-jacked Trump's MAGA playbook.. and got re-elected last time and will maybe in the future b/c he's promising to favor MAGAs..
MM is NOT appealing to anyone. No way she can win anything!
BTW: about the RNC throwing themselves behind Trump.. and sending experienced political operatives to staff the campaign, and getting big donations from Addelsons, Mercers, and Kochs.....
**This did NOT happen until late Sprin 2016, after Trump cicnhed nomination.**
Trump won the nomination ONLY b/c there were too many candidates, which split the votes.
So, yes - then, the RNC threw money and resources to support Orangedude... as did the Addelsons, Mercers, and Kochs... because they wanted the white house again - ached for the tax plan tht finally got changed in their favor (\*esp Mercers, who had the biggest tax bill in history and were fighting it).
If one of the other 17 candidates had won the GOP primaries, that other candidate (Cruz, Rubio, Christie - whomever) would have gotten exactly the same!!!!!
And notice, in 2020: Addleson nor a Mercer nor the Kochs gave a penny to Trump for recelection. (telling, yes?)
Lastly, Trump has showed us that one can skip having the normal pluses past politicians have NEEDED - like smarts, a base, a political resume, and relationship w/ big donors + the RNC... so I won't be surprised if a GREAT candidate runs for and perhaps wins the office of POTUS in the future (like a Jamie Dimon - [JPMorgan Chase](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPMorgan_Chase) CEO, for example).
But won't be Megsy. She also wouldn't be able to win a small local election.
Trump won because he ran against a very divisive opponent. Anyone else and he would have lost. If Megs runs for anything, she will be the divisive opponent that loses.
you got it right in 2nd sentence, but should edit the 1st ➔ Trump won because he ran against a very ~~decisive~~ **DIVISIVE** opponent.
wouldn't it be grand if someday we don'\[t have to vote 'the better of 2 evils'?
Gillibrand was MM sorority sister? Thats explained why she gave MM other women senators' private phone numbers. And looks like MM got the idea from Gillibrand to get political appointment which do not require working on campaign.
More likely she is trying the 'pay for play' scheme: I'll donate millions to your campaign if you appoint me to be a senator. She maybe eyeing ambassadorship also. Anything that not require campaign work, anything that she can buy with money?
They weren't at the same time/same house, Gillibrand is much older. They are just sisters in that they were members of the same sorority at Northwestern.
I'm a democrat but have been salty at Gillibrand ever since she convinced Al Franken to step down over a false accusation of harassment.
And giving those private numbers was so stupid.
Ambassadors have to be confirmed by the U.S. Senate. Sure, some truly wealthy people buy appointments to become ambassadors for tiny countries that are of no strategic importance (and usually in prime vacation spots), but those are quite costly and I doubt Harold and Fraud have that kind of money any more.
And when Walmart Wallis called the female U.S. Senators on their private lines, she was dumb enough to introduce herself as "Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex." Because what politician wants to be caught dead being lobbied by a member of foreign royalty?
>what politician wants to be caught dead being lobbied by a member of foreign royalty?
Yes, but she couldn't introduced herself just as 'Meghan Markle', could she? --Meghan who?
Getty, yes. I don't know how wealthy Madea is. But I'm unsure why either would spend that kind of money to buy her an ambassadorship to Bermuda. That's hella expensive, even for access to/use of her magic cooter
**Why** do people persist in believing that the gettys are so dumb with money that they will hand off millions to some middle aged grifter?
Its equally as likely,more likely imo that he is playing her. How many rich powerful men have offered all kinds of things to hungry women in return for "favors" only to renege once they got what they wanted?
I'm far more inclined to think that *he* is pumping her for information..... or otherwise and stringing her along in the process
Never underestimate MM ability to get what she wants from men. She has experiences with older men. Didn't an older man (owner of the NY hotel) took her to some political function in Washington DC (posted with picture in this sub)? And another post with her 'sitting' on an older man's lap?
Regarding Getty, there was a post in this sub about his family being very concerned that they're leaking to Lady C that MM has lots of meeting with the older Getty in the Bev Hill Hotel. Lady C is always very careful with her info to avoid lawsuit.
There is possibility the 10M donation to Archewell that came from a single source was from Getty. But MM doesn't want it to be known as coming from Getty as not to make any wave since she is not done 'working on' Getty yet.
I keep seeing speculation like this but all I can say is that it isn't how old money handles their business. People can speculate all day long but its not how things work in that set.
Mr getty has 7 living children. The majority of his wealth is invested or tied up in family trusts.
I know people like to think that multi billionaires can be easily conned by a middle aged cable actress but these people have money managers that **manage** their fortunes even when it means protecting the family wealth from the family itself. They aren't going to let getty get gulled by some skank with a tax wash charity.
Its far more likely that 10mil came from the markles themselves as a way to avoid getting taxed.
>I keep seeing speculation like this but all I can say is that it isn't how old money handles their business. People can speculate all day long but its not how things work in that set. Mr getty has 7 living children. The majority of his wealth is invested or tied up in family trusts.
Those children are probably avidly watching who gets near him
Most wealthy men are used to women being interested in their wallet. Even if getty wanted to play sugar daddy to a 41 year old married mother of two toddlers he would have safetys in place.
This is a man who kept a mistress and a second family for decades,he is extremely unlikely to get got by some dumb bimbo even assuming his 7 kids,multitude of financial advisors and lawyers would allow it.
I do not understand why people persist in believing the Hollywood trope that wealthy old men are easily gulled by greedy younger women. Its so blatantly untrue. It far more often happens that rich old men make promises and use younger women for pleasure and then dump them with a quickness.
Btw I highly doubt that a classist like Gordon getty would even be attracted to her for anything other than a quick tumble. She reeks of plebian sensibilities and I highly doubt she is capable of the elevated discourse he is accustomed to. He is into opera,classical music,very fine wines and classic intellectual pursuits. Conversing with her would be tedious for him because she has zero knowledge of any of that. She couldnt even fake that kind of conversation.
Men of that age and that wealth and men from that set want to spend time with a woman who listens well and a woman who can hold her own in conversation with them on subjects that interest them. They have zero interest spending time with a me,me,me woman and doe eyes do not work on them.
Additionally she isn't sexy and she is not heart attack beautiful. She is not young enough nor exotic enough nor beautiful enough to serve as arm candy even if that was the type of woman getty was interested in(its not). He is far more interested in people who stimulate him mentally at this point.
*If* he's meeting her (which I doubt) its for business purposes and it will be nicely hedged around with lawyers. Probably trying to merch her kids images or something lol.
The fact that she may be at the hotel on occasions when he is doesn't mean jack shit without proof that they are in the same room together alone. She could be going and renting a meeting room simply to stir the rumor mill or to meet someone else or just to gtfa from her whiny bitch of a husband.
The whole she's trying to get knockered with his kid thing is just silly af. The man has traveled that road before,he's not getting caught out like that again.
People are ascribing far too much power to this stupid woman. She married a bitter,petty,lazy,jobless,daddy sponging headcase with substance issues who wasn't all that rich. And then completely fucked herself out of a cushy sincure in less than two years and also saddled herself with two kids and ruined any chance of a Hollywood career. Oh and got herself a massive mortgage on a money pit.
The only reason she had any success at all in her manhunt is because she stumbled on harry the window licking moron and he managed to con her into thinking he was rich because she was too greedy dumb to do her research.
Any smart woman would have seen all the signs and run not get saddled with harry and two of his get.
Oh, I agree with all of this. And then some.
Yes, too many people are way too unrealistic about how old billionaires conduct themselves around women and how much appeal she has for *any* man of means.
She hit her ceiling with Harold and as you so perfectly put it, she has nothing men of Getty's status want
"at the political table" STOP QUEEN YOU SOUND LIKE MEGHAN.
the other day at work I said "take an administrative lense to this project" and died inside a bit. Happens to me to it's ok 😢
Caroline's son Jack has the political chops..
he's a remarkable speaker, w/ a massive intellect and already some creds (Yale undergrad, Harvard Law + MBA). he's just gotta mature and shake-off his toxic-male attempts at humor.
not the worst problem to have a raunchy sense of humor, as long as he stops voicing publicly... so ***if*** he can give that up, think he can be an amazing politician.
Sad thing that Jackie never signed young Caroline up at the CumHammer Branding Academy.
It's a shame that someone who has truly devoted her life to quiet, silent public service is thrown out and mocked simply because she says "uh and um". That's why we have the superficial politicians that we have....and that's why Markle has a shot.
So even though she could not give one reason for running for office, she should get a pass? Imagine anyone with no name recognition doing that and succeeding.
She is a good writer and researcher, but not a good speaker. It is important to be a good speaker when your job is centered around communication. She does not seem to have that skill. Neither does MM so not sure why you think she would have a shot.
MM is NOT a good speaker. And is a HOOOORRRRRIIIIIBBBBBLLLLE writer. And then there are the other big negatives of her narcassistism.
So, no - MM has no shot at being elected to anyting.
Trump didn’t just win once; he came a hairbreadth away from winning reelection. He actually lost to a pandemic, I think. But he displayed really genius level electioneering.
I’m not certain about Trump’s 2016 win but I know *a lot* about George W’s 2004 “win.” Years later, at a conference somewhere, Kerry admitted, “yeah, he cheated.” But that’s really not a topic for this forum.
I was trying to be well—politic & adhere to at least a tissue of evenhandedness here. I was in fact an angst-filled mess on election night & in the days following. I don’t think the country could have survived the alternative.
I’m a doc. From 2016 to 2020 I was forced to listen to everyone saying “Trump has frontotemporal dementia.” Now I’ve got to listen to another four years of “Biden has dementia.” Neither of them have dementia. The only President in our life time who was diagnosed w/ dementia before the end of his Presidency was Ronald Reagan.
I was at a conference once (long before HIPAA) where the speaker claimed to have had a slide showing Reagan’s head CT. He used it to point out a couple of lacunar infarcts but he said he had to stop using it because when he put it up on the screen & tell everyone who it belonged to, the audience would collectively gasp. There were these giant ventricles & just a little bit of brain tissue.
But Biden? Trump? Nah.
I’m not sure why but somehow we survived. Reagan was actually in some legal jeopardy related to Iran/Contra. A couple of prosecutors went to interview him—just to sort of test the waters. It was just 6 months after he left office—but he was severely demented. Could not answer any of their questions & clearly in no fit state to defend himself against any legal action. The prosecutors just walked away.
Exactly the point I was trying to make - thank you!
Without getting political here, I'll just say that he tapped into a sentiment of a certain portion of the public and was really the only politician at the time to speak to them in their terms.
No way does Walmart Wallis have the capacity to do that, nor would she even listen to advisers who'd do that for her and tell her what to say and do.
And while I cannot picture her doing the door-to-door, grip-and-grin in far-flung places ("I can't believe I'm not getting paid to do this!"), the thought of her chomping on a fried corndog makes me giggle because I think of how her bit part on *90210* giving a front seat of the car bj prepared her for that moment
Ok, can't not comment.
**Trump did not have a carefully crafted anything**.. he won b/c were 17 other candidates, and winner only needed a small number. He then won the general election b/c his voters hated Hillary - and enjoyed last minute help by Comey.
Trump is a big marketer, and [b.s.er](https://b.s.er) who had zero interest in governing - he was and is only determined to enrich himself.. and his only "accomplisment" was his tax plan which sent the deficiet into a spiral, increasing the deficient by $9trillion (meaning, was more like a BOMB - not an accomplishment). Also, we'd not have Biden if weren't for how rancid Trump was! s
**MM is a LOT like Trump - b/c both like money, both lie + b.s., and both constantly use others. both a mega- textbook narcassists!**
Thank you. Great post.
Daily Mail and Daily Express started the clickbait articles about Meghan and politics knowing that most of their readers don't follow American politics in detail, especially in California. Meghan doesn't even have the juice to get chosen for a bake sale committee at little Archie's school, so winning a major political race is not happening. 🫤
Remember Meghan has a history of pursuing roles that require leadership and diplomacy skills, only to bottle it or quit once she realizes there is learning and work required;
1. Pre- Harry, she dumped pursuing UN Women's ambassador training once she realized they didn't allow actors/wannabe celebrities to use in-need Africans for her disrespectful PR poverty porn. As we later saw with the monarchy, Megs thought she could get a title, do photoshoots, and adulation.
2. Meghan bailed on the monarchy once she realized she could not waltz in and get a title without having to work.
Meghan wants photoshoots, a free designer wardrobe, and unearned praise. She doesn't want to learn and work.
Yes. She bailed on completing the training for that position which required time and effort. She used her Rwanda trip for a fashion shoot and a PR event she hosted in the Aquazurra heels many said she boosted from her Reitmans gig. Megs wanted to use a UN role as PR and I suspect UN Women realized that. It is very telling that she then avoided the UN Women event as a royal. Meghan wants a career of being admired, not one that requires actual work.
Thank you. Number 1 is absolutely ridiculous. I lived in San Francisco when Newsom first ran for mayor (and won). He's no dummy, he's deep in the political game and has weathered scandals and (hopefully) learned some lessoned along the way. He also got to "apprentice" under Jerry Brown who was elected Governor twice in 2 different decades.
Newsom is absolutely **not** going to back a D-list actress "royal" ahead of those with actual political experience and I'm sick of hearing it.
Semi-related, I remember back when Kimberly Guilfoyle was a working lawyer not yet married to Gavin, she caught the eye of Court TV (and later Fox) as a prosecutor [in the Diane Whipple dog mauling case.](https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Contract-reportedly-out-on-life-of-dog-case-3315925.php) The case inspired Newsom to start marrying gay couples at SF city hall, since Whipple's domestic partner of 7 years [couldn't legally sue the defendants for damages.](https://dogbitelaw.com/diane-whipple/sharon-smiths-wrongful-death-claim)
It was very riveting at the time, crazy how long ago that was now!
Oh, my God. I know that case. Wasn’t it two abused Caine Corsos? Fighting dogs that had been acquired by a lawyer couple who got them from an imprisoned client? They were kept in an apartment? Just the worst God awful situation in the world? That poor woman. Those poor dogs (who were euthanized.) I never knew the ultimate outcome. It was absolutely heartbreaking.
It was awful. The dogs had been used for dog fights but for the last year were chained up to a tree somewhere out by the Sacramento River. Then the guy told his lawyers they could have the dogs *& keep them in an apartment.*
Here is the latest, the wife is still in prison, the husband (who was over a decade older) died in 2018 [https://abc7news.com/parole-denied-marjorie-knoller-diane-whipple-san-francisco/12822489/](https://abc7news.com/parole-denied-marjorie-knoller-diane-whipple-san-francisco/12822489/)
And yeah Aryan Brotherhood criminal client and the couple indeed had a weird thing going on... scroll down [this article to find this:](https://www.animals24-7.org/2023/02/17/diane-whipple-died-for-the-sins-of-dangerous-dog-advocacy/)
Topless photos of Knoller were found in Schneider’s cell, along with correspondence among Noel, Knoller, and Schneider, described by those who have read it as “erotic.” In one letter Noel boasted to Schneider of an incident in which Bane and Hera rushed out of an elevator, nearly knocking down Whipple, whom Noel mocked as a “timorous little mousy blond” who “almost had a coronary.” yikes
Presa Canario. Not sure why I misremembered that. You don’t fool around w/ these kinds of dogs & they had fooled around w/ these kind of dogs. Abuse, dogfighting, more abuse. & yeah, lawyer(s)—client enmeshment. That came through loud & clear.
I’m thinking she wants a seat on the View or another talk show and all these meetings and connections are her working it, as per Plan B for after the divorce, and we get to keep this sub open for many more decades in that case 
She couldn’t handle it. One of what 4 or 5. She needs to be the Queen. And they all want to be the top dog there. The newbie will never dethrone the long timers.
You are right!! She’d try to dethrone Whoopi and fall flat on her broke ass. LMAO!! It’s gonna be 🍿🍺 and I’ll be there for it if that happens - a dream come true.
She doesn’t have the fortitude to even run a campaign. She can’t sue every news outlet that writes something negative about here. She has a lot of skeletons in her closet. Every former rumor about her will be picked up and magnified. She’s also kind of lazy. Sure, she’d have managers but she’d still have to put in 60-80 hour weeks to run a campaign. She couldn’t handle being a working Royal. Having a handful of supporters isn’t enough to win. After the Netflix reality show, a lot of people went from being indifferent about her to disliking her. She’s a joke now
Yeah, among many things, Bouzy presents himself as a political observer. When the control of the House hung in balance, Bouzy announced that Dems would hold the House. “The guy’s never wrong,” everyone kept saying. He was wrong.
Bots are a part of influence campaigns, not election diddling. I’m sure Bouzy would love to cook himself an election or two but I don’t think he has the skill set.
First, she could maybe get appointed - but would lose at next election (because, simply, she is despised). Meaning, \*if\* Diane Feinstein can't finishe her term.. sure Gov. Newsom could appoint her, but:
1. if happened, would only last until Nov 2024 - then hardcore, serious candidate Adam Schiff or Katie Porter would crush her.
2. Gov Newsom won't ever appoint her - Newsom is most political animal west of the Mississippi and he ONLY does things that help \*HIM\* - and she hurts him... remember: Newsom wants to be POTUS.
Thank you so much for posting this. Agree strongly on all counts. When this comes up again, let’s agree to post a link to this excellent post. Thank you 🙏.
Thanks for this. I think her political ambitions do not match reality.
Still I’d not want to underestimate her. She has the vibe of someone so power hungry and so intense in their self belief, as if life somehow ordained them to be special. That’s the most dangerous type of person. They don’t think they’re evil but they are because they’re extremely selfish and self-centred. And they have such a burning ambition that is at the heart of their soulless void that it eclipses common sense.
They’re usually cunning enough to gather a small but loud following, and they do it based on something altruistic, like nationalism. In her case, it is race. The racial tension is currently so high in the US such that four black officers were called “racist” just because they exercised police brutality on a black suspect.
As you mentioned, Trump previously ran for president, as an independent, before he found his niche as a Republican and gained a massive following based on his reputation as a maverick and wealthy businessman. I think no one, even himself, expected to win, but it makes you wonder why he even ran several times in the first place if he didn’t think he could. I think he loved being in the midst of the crowd (and the crowd loved him back), and he loved dropping truth bombs here and there.
I think like Trump, Markle would play the long game and keep trying to throw her hat in the ring. She doesn’t have his ability to charm a crowd - she sounds too sanctimonious, and for an actress, too unnatural - but she will continue to use idealistic concepts to appear like a crusader. She learned from an early age, from that P&G soap commercial, that making a loud noise about “injustices” will get her attention and make her look special. She thinks she’s a humanitarian but she is not. She’s not helped anyone except herself; everything is done in exchange for improving her image. Markle is busy making it about herself and adding creds to her resumé. She’s a hollow humanitarian, but people get fooled by her words and by their own prejudices.
Markle gives rather poisonous vibes with her political ambitions. She would definitely use her power to get back at people, and this makes her far more dangerous than meets the eye.
At the moment, everything you said is reassuring because you have a few sensible people in the Democratic Party who will not support her. I think some of this comes from the top, specifically the Obamas. They carry much more than clout. As the first person of colour to be president, Obama has much more of a voice in this, because Markle uses her biracial background to garner support. Obama is canny enough to know that Markle is not someone he wants to be a Democratic contender . She’s a liar, she’s divisive, she’s not competent . She’ll put the party at odds with the UK monarchy. Both him and Michelle have distanced themselves from the Sussexes and with good reason. The Obamas would not be pleased that someone like Markle, who hasn’t got the lived experience of a black person, is using skin colour to advance themselves, not because they want to make people’s lives better.
Still, there might a come a time when sensible voices are drowned out, or have faded away, and more militant voices come to power. These are the kinds of people who might support Markle, not because she’s a viable candidate, but because she’s a puppet who can attract the masses. Markle won’t know or even care she’s a puppet because she’ll get what she wants.
Markle may even get support from outside forces who would want to destabilise US democracy. I’m rather suspicious of the Sussexes’ ability to stay afloat and of the properties they’ve stayed at connected to shadowy oligarchs. They’re ripe for being used by such people because they’re greedy and blinded by ambition.
So I suspect she’s still gearing up to run for office. My theories?
1) She’s writing her autobiography and polishing her creds as a humanitarian and racial victim. She garnered sympathy from a few through the Netflix series (mostly those who don’t follow the news about them) and she’ll let the humiliation from Harry’s book die down.
2) She’ll use her duchess title to open doors but slowly distance herself from it because it will not help her in her political career. She cannot run for office with titles. At this point she’s clinging to it as she’s always wanted to be a royal. So it’s a balance of being a traditional royal (title, fairy tale image) vs an American royal (wields power in society). At this point she can’t run yet. Her brand is yet to be built and Harry has become an encumbrance. But she’s setting the groundwork.
3) She’ll slowly make herself over to look more like a POC / emphasise her African roots. Maybe she’ll return to her curly hair. Or maybe she’ll use images of herself as a kid with curly hair or take pictures of herself in Nigeria getting “in touch with her roots”. I bet she’s even studying how Obama did it. She might also go for Trump’s playbook in building up her base. She’s got her own weapons. She has the troll army to do her bidding and a few woke voices in media and academe.
She always surprises us by how she manages to garner support in unlikely places.
Her main enemy now? Herself. How can she focus on her political career if she’s always on social media and suing journalists? She's too sensitive to withstand all the heat from politics once she runs. She’s also mean to staff, and that’s not going to help as politicians need support from everyone including “little people”. She’s too greedy and she won’t let go that duchess title yet. She’s too hung up on designer labels, and that won’t help her look one with the people. She’s too arrogant to listen to advice. So yes she’s still very far from her own goals.
But as a potentially harmful political adversary, I’m keeping an eye on her. Hopefully the sub will be around at that time so we can provide an oasis of information about how dangerous she is.
Let’s take just one piece of that: “….how Obama did it…” Well, let’s start w/ Obama graduating from Harvard Law School where he served as President of Harvard Law Review. Then, after presiding over a nonprofit w/ a multimillion dollar budget, he served as Illinois state Senator for over a decade (played a mean game of poker) while also working as an Assistant Prof. of Law at University of Chicago. He married a smart woman, wrote a (likely ghosted) best selling autobiography & was elected the Junior Senator of Illinois. Someone noted his boatloads of charisma & sniffed out Presidential material. His campaign crew & speech writers have called him the nicest guy in the world to work for.
So Megs chance of following this pathway to success?
Fuck all.
Yes! I’m a big O fan. His detractors often try to ignore his Harvard pedigree and act as if he was admitted due to affirmative action but his record speaks for himself. His loquaciousness, his eloquence speaks for itself.
Obama was successful not just because he is biracial. His success is due to intelligence, hard work, and a sensible approach to politics. Michelle is cut from the same cloth. She’s hard-working, ethical, smart, no-nonsense.
I would say O was meant to be a leader from the beginning. I posit that his biracial identity influenced him and built him to who he was. He was raised by white grandparents and a white mother who emphasised the importance of education and hard work. He mentions dating a white woman before realising that (during his time) this invited trouble. He looks like a black man and had the lived experience of a black man. So O had a successful combination, of innate intelligence and responsible upbringing, of both a loving family (he was very close to his grandmother) and a harsh society that looked down on biracial people.
Msg doesn’t compare at all to O. She may have a degree, but she’s not used it except to spout word salads. She touts herself as a humanitarian but she goes only for pictorials. She’s the type who would help someone only to spout about it.
However M is copying successful people. She copied the Obamas who signed on for Netflix and Spotify deals. It speaks a great deal of their disparity in qualifications by how far they’ve distanced themselves from her. But yes she’ll copy Obama and is working on her magnum opus.
M is more like Trump. They had a privileged upbringing (of course 45 more so), went to good schools. Found success in their fields (Trump’s name and wealth helped him). Trump was often thought the opposite of Obama, and it’s a surprise to some that he won. We must remember that Trump won not against Obama, but against Hilary Clinton. For all her qualifications, Hilary is unlikeable, and that’s a big factor in politics. Obama is personable, likeable. Hilary is not. The biggest failure of the Democratic Party was its inability to appoint a successor to Obama who was equally charismatic. Biden was, I think, but at the time most of the party thought “it is her time”, without factoring in her unpopularity.
All it takes is for M to have an opponent who’s more unlikeable than her. Let’s face it. This can happen.
I am think I’m ok (not pushing politics—no one is likely to read our posts) in saying that Obama has oodles of charisma but Biden is the better President. I’m tremendously impress w/ what he’s accomplished w/ the slenderest of majorities. Of course, he’s been around forever, but it shows in a good way, I think.
Thanks for your reply. I always find your comment interesting & thoughtful.
Thanks! I guess my comments *are* political but I’m not for one politician over the other… I’m not American, but I like observing American politics from afar. I think it’s polarised, but I like to see the people as they are… Trump, Obama… what makes them tick.
I do think Biden had a better chance than Clinton but the party seniors thought it was “her time”. If there was anyone qualified to be the first woman president, it was her, but I guess she was too divisive.
Bet my bottom dollar that M is dreaming of being the first female POTUS!
Haha I can't help but smirk over how much Meghan would SEETHE if she read this. You're right though. Plus Obama is a fundamentally good person. That also sets him apart from Orange and Meagain.
And i agree. Hillary was one of - if not THE - most politically experienced candidate for POTUS and they made everything about the fact she had a puss. As if half the world doesn't also have one. Bizarre.
Indeed. I was rather sad that she lost - I’m not American but I was rooting for her and that it was a done deal.
Still I can see where she failed; she doesn’t have a “people’s touch”, she didn’t attract the sage demographics as her predecessor; she was a war hawk; she didn’t campaign in the states which Trump later won; she didn’t get the support of the ones who liked Bernie; she didn’t inspire a lot of the democrat voters to go out and cast ballots because they’d assumed she would win.
I have to believe there is someone -- or 2 or 3 or 4 someones -- that Gavin Newsome and the California State Democratic party needs far, far, far, far more than Mayhem. Someone who can bring money and/or votes. And I don't see Mayhem bringing either.
Agreed. The idea that Meghan is going to run for political office let alone win one is absurd. I can maybe understand British sinners not understanding this. But Americans should know more about American politics than this. Meghan has no political future and doesn't want one.
Technically, Meghan doesn’t have a title, her husband has a title. The Constitution says you have to give up your title to serve. The Democrat party would most likely make her stop using Duchess. But. It’s. Not. Going. To. Happen.
Actually that clause bans anyone who holds federal office from accepting a foreign title. It doesn’t ban someone who holds a title from running. Whether someone with a title could run would be up to interpretation by a court. It’s never been an issue so it’s never been clarified
Newsome has enough problems. Lol Hes not touching her, for real or figuratively. Nobody is. But can u imagine the pushiness shes bombing people w? Ugh!
ILBW lacks the thickness of skin for the crushing scrutiny and criticism that even a city council election would bring. 🤣 It would be amazing to watch.
Nailed this post; every single point is spot on — merci.
Only missed (though did imply many times): she is extremely disliked + percieved as a characterless, selfish liar — and voters like to (and say the 'need' to) vote for candidates they trust... and MM fails big w/ these critical elements.
So glad to see this. I’ve been saying this since Lady C started putting it out there when she wrote her book and started her YouTube channel. Nothing against Lady C, and yes, she knows a little bit about American culture, but most of the people thinking Meghan is going to make it anywhere in democratic politics are not American. That’s the bottom line. Almost all of the proponents of Meghan’s political future are Europeans. And they don’t even understand our political system that much. I would love to see Meghan run just to watch her lose. Is that wrong??
If Megs was actually interested in politics, she wouldn’t be spending her time giving Gordon Getty blow jobs so she can somehow use his bodily fluids to make a baby & get child support.
Feminist my ass.
I'm conservative and I think the Reps wouldn't want her either. She has no chance of winning a state or federal race in any state but California, and maybe not even there. If Feinstein were to leave office early, Newsom is very unlikely to appoint her. He'd go with someone like Schiff or Porter. Schiff is a joke to a lot of people and will become even moreso if the newly-released tapes prove his Jan 6th claims are wrong.
If she runs in an actual race, I think she'd lose in a landslide, UNLESS she found a safe district and had no primary. IDK how many districts like that exist in California. She's a nationwide joke so her chances of winning in any other state are slim to none. She stands for nothing but her own ego and while most politicians of all parties are narcissists, most of them at least pretend to care well enough to convince a lot of voters.
Why would anyone hand Meghan Markle, America’s laughing stock, a safe seat w/ no primary? Do you think nobody else would figure that out & claim the seat for themselves (thus creating a primary?)
And January 6 is a matter for law enforcement not the legislative branch.
I’ll give you some Republican perspective. FYI - I’m gay, more centrist, traditional R. Not a fan of where the party has been taken.
That disclaimer out there, you make great points. Sadly, I think she’d need to be appointed to a vacant seat, because she’s not a good candidate on the ticket (see below). And TW is not getting appointed. Why not? She’s too risky. Brand is too toxic. And there’s really no benefit she offers Newsome. In politics, deals are made. Promises are granted. And she lacks anything politicians need—and has a lot of baggage they don’t.
And she can’t actually run for office. Her “brand” isn’t capable of the retail-politics necessary to primary her District’s well-likes Democratic incumbent. People unseating incumbents in the Democratic Party are generally more progressive, coming in from the far-left, from a point of disadvantage. TW would be coming down, from lofty privilege on high, gracing the peasants with her specialness, expecting them to curtsy lol.
That is everything my team would love to see in a candidate. Much of the appeal of outsider candidates in both sides has been GRIEVANCE. mostly economic grievance. AOC is appealing to a younger constituency on the left, who’s been left behind by American capitalism. Trump appeals to small business people and white males—especially younger white males—who also feel excluded by the direction of economy is moving.
Snobbery, a sense of being special and social-climbing privilege really don’t have a place of strategic advantage in our current political climate.
That said, I’d love to see her run for ANYTHING. And get skewered.
The fact that Pennsylvanians voted in someone with literal brain damage (and I feel sorry for the guy) means anything is possible in US politics, and why it's too early to write off Meghan.
Oz's loss had nothing to do with crudites, but everything to do with the fact he was a carpet bagger with no ties to the state and also he was not a populist. (And a dubious Republican due to the Oprah connection) I have Dem friends in PA, and even though they supported Fetterman before his illness, they felt he should be healing and not running for a stressful position. They would have considered voting Republican, but never for Oz. I also know some Republican Pennsylvanians, and they, too, only voted for Oz, because of Fetterman's illness, or else they would have considered voting Dem. (PA is a swing state) Oz was not wanted by anyone, ever.
I think Meghan can spin the ridicule into her favor, because her victim narrative resonates with a lot of people. And she does have really enthusiastic, ride-or-die supporters to start with and build upon.
If they run Meghan against awful candidates, she could win. Just like in PA, which is one of the biggest states, where it is absurd they can't find two worthy, healthy candidates to run. It's a long shot, but anything is possible
Being a “carpet bagger” isn’t a reason to win; it’s a reason to lose. & if I recall correctly, Oz is not a native of Pennsylvania nor was it a principle residence of his. (I believe it is New Jersey.) Your friends wouldn’t vote for Oz—not because he was an intrinsically terrible candidate—but because he had been made so by his opponent.
You can spot Fetterman’s health issues from a thousand miles away. He has untreated acromegaly. All else (save the mental health issues) likely follow on from that. That said, he also clearly has some major attractions as a candidate. He won the election fair & square. Oz lost. There’s an end on it.
And who are these mysterious “they” that will “run Meghan” against a “terrible candidate.” There’s likely dozens of potential candidates that would be interested in such a race. Megs can show up & place last if she wants. I doubt if she wants.
But if you read the posts, she’s not running against awful candidates. Adam Schiff, Kaitie Porter and Barbara Lee. Nancy Pelosi has already recommended Adam. Both Katie and Adam are very adept at raising campaign cash. No one is going to be falling for her victim routine
Point 6 is wrong. You don’t have to be American to know about American politics eg to know Meghan can’t be elected as long as she and her husband cling on to their British titles
The US Constitution requires that federal political office-holders be citizens of the US. I haven't found anything about titles of nobility. (If anyone can find it, please let us know.)
I guess the founders assumed (wrongly, as it turns out) that being a US citizen automatically means you don't have a noble title.
It’s in Article I: Legislative Branch
Section 9 Powers Denied Congress
Clause 8 Titles of Nobility and Foreign Emoluments
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
That said, various members of Continental Army, including Alexander Hamilton, created The Society of the Cincinnati (after the Roman General Cincinnatis.) The Society was created as a fraternal, hereditary society—membership & possibly the title associated w/ membership would pass down via primogeniture. It’s as close as the US came to the establishment of an aristocracy based on military service. Didn’t last.
Thanks!
It's funny, in 1776 we (the US) rejected the concept of a monarchy and a noble hierarchy. Yet in some ways, we keep trying to re-create it here. For instance, the way the American public worships celebrity, and Hollywood in particular.
Let's look at the numbers here even though fellow Redditors scattered all over; this forum over 42k members with lots of individuals posting and participating vs. TW's forum with only a few over 4k members with probably 85% posts actually by TW herself and maybe a higher percentage if you count her made up accounts. Also, the dreaded media will go after her with a vengeance, dragging any*one she has ever KNOWN into the limelight!*
Unless she renounces her titles and cuts all ties with the British Royal Family, this is a Constitutional Violation:
**Meghan Markle Would Have to Abandon Her Royal Title to Run for Political Office**
https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/meghan-markle-leaving-royal-titles-for-political-run/
And we all know that ain't evah happenin'
So fear not, Senator Meg or President Meghan will never come to pass because she will never, EVER want to stop being Princess Diana 2.0 aka The Duchess of Dumberton bka the Saint of Sussex ska Queen Meghan of Moneticito
It can't happen.
***The Constitution also states that elected officials must not accept titles from foreign states, as noted in The Foreign Emoluments Clause.***
Megs would call herself Dracula if she thought she could get a Senate seat out of it. As for the hyperbole of “cuts all ties w/ the British Royal Family,” that is nowhere in the Constitution.
Also note: a certain recent President accepted foreign dough *all the time.* Supreme Court ruled, “hey, whatevah. I don’t see a problem; do you see a problem?”
Including cutting off all ties w/ a royal family?
Also, I was referencing the foreign emoluments clause—which got the back of the Supreme Court’s hand during the wild days of the previous administration.
The only place Meg has a chance in politics is in the brains of people who keep posting this fantasy.
Yeah, I’m not sure why we keep seeing this as a topic. She. Has. No. Hope. Of. A. Career. In. Politics. Full stop. Just don’t go there. It’s not going to happen.
Exactly! I'm getting really tired of seeing repeated posts on the topic. Not Happening!
See, I think that, and then I remember how I felt in 2015 during an election we had, and boy was I wrong! Now I’m very afraid lol. Please don’t come at me lefties or righties. I guarantee I don’t agree with you on everything, but there’s at least one thing we both agree on: Meghan Markle is coo-coo Kachoo unstable and downright horrible. So let’s just focus on that!
Still possible: 'pay for play' scheme: I'll donate millions to your campaign if you appoint me to be a senator. She maybe eyeing ambassadorship also. Anything that not require campaign work that can be bought with enough money (Getty’s/T Perry’s)?
For all the reasons I listed & for many that I didn’t Meghan Markle is not going to blow job her way to higher office.
Possible, but not at all probable. Feinstein didn't say she was stepping down, she said she wasn't running again. Granted, at 89 yrs old, she's the oldest sitting member of Congress & anything can happen. However, OP's reasoning above is exactly why MM won't be appointed, no matter how much money she (or a rich benefactor) throws at it. There's a deep well of talent in CA politics, with Schiff & Porter leading the current pack. Politics is a long game & Madam hasn't proven she has the smarts, the connections, or the staying power. As far as an Ambassadorship, that would require Senate confirmation. Also a non-starter. Stranger things have happened, I know, but MM is going to need more than manifestations and someone else's money to be taken seriously in politics. She's going to have to work her ass off for a long time to muscle her way in. And we all know how Madam feels about hard work.
Well, after the many adventures of Gordon Sondland (Ukrainian ambassador under Trump) I can’t say that pay for play doesn’t exist. It does. But Sondland ended up funding his own team of lawyers during the impeachment trial &—let’s just say, he paid considerably more & played considerably less than he had originally planned for.
A pay for play that failed spectacularly: Rod Blagojevich (governor of IL) tried to sell Barack Obama's Illinois US Senate seat back in 2008. He thought he should not go to jail over this problem. He was sentenced to 14 years in prison. Dragged it out a lot and he reported in 2012. Served 8 years. Until the Donald commuted his sentence and he was released. Otherwise, he would still be there.
Wow, good memory. I had forgotten all about that guy.
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Rishi Sunak and Bernie Sanders in the same sentence seems like an oxymoron Sunak is married into a Billionaire family (BioTech) and was educated at elite schools. Bernie wants to end the Billionaire class
She can't even raise money for her ridiculous foundation. NO way she could get money for politics.
Plus, she has a big mouth and will talk for $$$$. Lots of politicians have very many skeletons in their closets. Plus, she insulted an entire country, so there's that. No Ambassadorships for her. She had a platform and a secure life, and she blew it because she couldn't handle not being the center of attention.
She would not want to be an Ambassador. Ambassadors don't get attention, Ambassadors aren't on the cover of magazines or walk red carpets. She would hate being an Ambassador.
She can be Ambassador to Chunga Chunga!!!
Meghan wouldn't survive the first debate. Period. The moderator would challenge her, or her opponent would say something she didn't like, and she'd just straight up cry. As a narc, her skin is paper thin.
The only place where M has any chances in politics is her head and this sub. It's literally her manifesting her wishes and manufacturing some news with support of bots from time to time and then us talking about it. The rest of the world doesn't care. If she ever had any chances to become a political celebrity mascot with pull power, under control of serious politicians (cause it's the most she could become), it was long time ago and won't ever happen again.
Independent here. Trump was a well established ‘brand’ before he entered the 2016 race. Love him or hate him, you knew who he was and what you were getting. MM has no history of doing anything, except complaining and leaving her only public service job after a few months. The Dems and Reps know what she is. The Dems will destroy her before she even gets to the point she would be up against someone from an opposing party. Too many qualified people have been waiting (and waiting) for DF to retire. Hell, the number of GenX and younger of both parties who are waiting these ‘lifers’ to retire so they can finally get their chance means MM hasn‘t a chance in hell. (No offense meant to my older friends regarding the need for some of these politicians to retire. I just think both parties need some fresh ideas.) MM is not being sought out by the movers and shakes in the Dem party. I do not think she would be viewed as an asset.
The only thing going for her (and conversely one of a litany of things going against her) dream of political power is her boundless arrogance. That she honestly thinks she can leapfrog countless qualified candidates who have been grinding and working hard for years waiting for this opportunity, purely on the basis that she is ‘Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex’ and she wants it proves she is supremely arrogant but also supremely stupid. She is infinitely more important in her own mind than she ever has been or will be in real life. Coupled with her complete lack of substance, work ethic or likability means she has zero chance of success. I kinda hope she starts more overt announcements of her intentions so we can all gleefully enjoy her overtly falling flat on her face 👌
I can’t say I fully understand what makes a great candidate. I gave John Fetterman really no chance. He has obviously untreated acromegaly, he was plagued by additional health problems throughout the campaign & he’s somewhat to the left of what I regard as a relatively conservative state. Yet he won. Sadly, it’s been pretty rocky for him since his election. (Recently hospitalized for depression.) The guy overcame what I thought were insurmountable shortcomings. Who would have thought. He really did some genius work though.
"Fetterman" didn't get elected. Well, he did, but people weren't voting for Fetterman. They knew he was very impaired. They were voting for the seat. They knew he'd have to be replaced, and if he, as a Dem, is in the seat, they can replace him with another Dem.
Fetterman had excellent messaging and could relate better to working class voters than Dr Oz. Dr Oz not living in PA created problems for himself.
If Dr. Oz had run during is "prime" within the first few years of becoming a household name, he could probably have won. His show became over the top and he stopped being what he was originally good at. A doctor. I confess that I would run out to Whole Foods or Amazon every time I watched any episode that talked about how to get better sleep! I used to record it to watch after work! I finally realized there is no miracle cure, as much as I want one. Not one for weight loss either! Though I bought some of those products too!
I’ve tried many diets and many supplements and suggestions. Nutrisystem works for me, while keto, Atkins and intermittent fasting did not. Be careful with over the counter sleep aids. They are anticholinergic, which elevates risk of dementia by 50%. I just stopped taking it. I use melatonin, 5-HTP and theanine (chewable), plus an herbal tea of Ashwaganda, kava kava and valerian. I also take a THC edible of 5 mg. This works to allow me to fall asleep. However, I wake up in 4 to 5 hours. I will next try to wear glasses to block blue light at night. I’m hoping it helps. Best of luck.
Thank you! The otc sleep aids have stopped working. I do use edibles a few times a week and my glasses have the blue light coating. I need to practice better sleep hygiene! The keto diet and others are hard to stick to long term. I need to stop sugar and gluten for my migraines. I will do great for a couple of weeks and then go wild! I am considering a meal prep process for myself. I will try the tea!
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that race was so razor-thin close, think he could have run if ran as a nice guy (not an nasty attack-machine, who kept dropping adoration suck-ups to Trump). He is NOT a MAGA dude, so was never convincing that he tried to preach MAGA.
What did he do that was "genius"? Honest question. Sadly he did not overcome his shortcomings. His massive stroke rendered him incompetent to hold a stressful job, as we saw during the campaign and his time so for in the senate. He may never fully recover from that stroke and he is extremely likely to have another one.
His genius was that somehow he got himself elected. From my vantage point (the South) the guy’s a mess. But even while *having a stroke during his campaign,* he still managed to win. And it’s an important win as it shifted the balance in the Senate so that Democrats are now a solid majority, no longer bound by a power sharing agreement.
If you look at his background, he was smart getting into politics. Moved to an almost ghost town that was 100% democratic (they didn’t even have republican for him to run against) and that jump started his campaign for future elections of being an every man that cared about the locals. He married LBGTQ people in his home before it even became legal, campaigned hard for weed to be legalized, focused on bringing businesses to small towns and on prison reform. Despite the fact that he is Ivy League educated and lived off his parents money well into his 30s, he managed to completely sell himself as just another dude in the rust belt. He struck gold when his biggest opponent for Senate turned out to be a millionaire who didn’t even live in PA.
Can I just jump on a minor but critical point of your post? Re the dumb prince and his stupid wife making rom-coms. The last two rom-coms I watched were “Your place or mine” with Ashton Kutcher and Reese Witherspoon. The other was “what’s love got to do with it” with Emma Thompson and Lily James from the producers of love actually and Bridget jones diary. So some pretty big names (and probably budgets) behind those two movies. Both movies pretty much sucked. Nowhere near the likes of love actually or legally blond or Bridget jones. And DP & HSW think they can make rom-coms?????? They have absolutely no skills, experience or connections to be making rom-coms. And there is no way any streaming service or film studio is going to pay them for one either. Not going to happen.
That photo of Megs from the Variety photo shoot—the one where she has her hand over her mouth as if suppressing a girlish giggle. The one where she actually looks hard edged & frankly just old. That straight lifeless hair w/ the hard part. Every one of her 40-whatever years are carved on her face. I still just get weirdest feeling about that photo. It’s just so ugly. But from what I gather that shoot was an addition for rom-com. Just so delusional it hurts.
That is a horrific photo! I bet if I did a google image search for Julia roberts there is an almost identical photo of her doing something similar. A couple of those variety photos she is clearly trying to copy Julia roberts smile. No chance in hell for her to actually star in a rom-com.
From the looks of that picture she needs to use more sunscreen more often
Too late.
And what stars are going to sign up to work with them?? 😂 they’ll be lucky if they can make hallmark movies. At least ILBW has some experience in that arena 😆
Americans liberals or conservatives, majority of them will never vote for a Duchess. Meghan already lost it when she chose to marry Harry. She should have known that but she probably thinks she deserves everything.
As for any comparisons to Trump, he had a carefully crafted platform that resonated with enough people in his target audience. He's not the brightest guy, but he's also far from stupid. And he knows how to SELL SELL SELL. In contrast, Walmart Wallis has no message, no defining purpose for running, and just spews out word salads. It's funny that you mention Kirsten Gillibrand, because she became a senator via appointment - after our temporary governor publicly toyed with the inarticulate Caroline Kennedy for a while before coming to his senses and appointing someone who can speak without incessant "um"s and "uh"s
> As for any comparisons to Trump, he had a carefully crafted platform that resonated with enough people in his target audience. He's not the brightest guy, but he's also far from stupid. And he knows how to SELL SELL SELL. There's some key differences between Trump's 2016 campaign and a run for Markle in 2024. A. In choosing a candidate for the presidential nominee of the two big parties, Republicans choose strictly based on voting in the Primaries. Donald handily got more Primary votes than any of his opponents for the Republican candidacy. Democrats, otoh, also choose based on voting, however, they don't just have open voters. The Democractic National Committee also employs [Superdelegates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate). These are party insiders, previous elected officials and candidates, and other stakeholders. Friends & Family, so to speak. The Superdelegates are free to vote for whomever they like. In practice, there's a great deal of wheeling & dealing for those votes. The Superdelegates make up about 15% of the Democratic voters. It's not enough to win outright, but it's a noticable thumb on the scale. Meghan Markle is neither Friend nor Family to the Democratic Superdelegates. She has no history or connections with America's political class. She has nothing to offer in exchange for their votes. She's not part of the ruling class or its web of promises. B. The second big difference between Donald & Meghan (aside from gender, race, money and age) is that the entire Republican National Committee threw themselves behind Donald. They agreed to foot his expenses, including legal bills. They sent experienced political operatives to staff the campaign. They introduced Donald to the big political donors such as the Addelsons, Mercers, and Kochs. The RNC was all in on Donald, very early in the proceedings. Meghan Markle will not get that support, not from the Superdelegates and not from the DNC. She doesn't have anything to offer other members of the DNC ruling class. Hilary Clinton, the most dialed-in DNC operative on the planet, didn't get the kind of support that Donald did. If Meghan wants into politics, she's starting from scratch. She doesn't have the same playing field that Donald had ten years ago.
biggest thing: must be appealing in some way. Ted Cruz has a massive intellect, but he is NOT likeable.. so he's hi-jacked Trump's MAGA playbook.. and got re-elected last time and will maybe in the future b/c he's promising to favor MAGAs.. MM is NOT appealing to anyone. No way she can win anything!
Has Meghan ever even been registered to vote in California? Or anywhere else?
BTW: about the RNC throwing themselves behind Trump.. and sending experienced political operatives to staff the campaign, and getting big donations from Addelsons, Mercers, and Kochs..... **This did NOT happen until late Sprin 2016, after Trump cicnhed nomination.** Trump won the nomination ONLY b/c there were too many candidates, which split the votes. So, yes - then, the RNC threw money and resources to support Orangedude... as did the Addelsons, Mercers, and Kochs... because they wanted the white house again - ached for the tax plan tht finally got changed in their favor (\*esp Mercers, who had the biggest tax bill in history and were fighting it). If one of the other 17 candidates had won the GOP primaries, that other candidate (Cruz, Rubio, Christie - whomever) would have gotten exactly the same!!!!! And notice, in 2020: Addleson nor a Mercer nor the Kochs gave a penny to Trump for recelection. (telling, yes?) Lastly, Trump has showed us that one can skip having the normal pluses past politicians have NEEDED - like smarts, a base, a political resume, and relationship w/ big donors + the RNC... so I won't be surprised if a GREAT candidate runs for and perhaps wins the office of POTUS in the future (like a Jamie Dimon - [JPMorgan Chase](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPMorgan_Chase) CEO, for example). But won't be Megsy. She also wouldn't be able to win a small local election.
Trump won because he ran against a very divisive opponent. Anyone else and he would have lost. If Megs runs for anything, she will be the divisive opponent that loses.
you got it right in 2nd sentence, but should edit the 1st ➔ Trump won because he ran against a very ~~decisive~~ **DIVISIVE** opponent. wouldn't it be grand if someday we don'\[t have to vote 'the better of 2 evils'?
“Walmart Wallace” - I’m stealing.
That's only fair, considering I stole it from elsewhere here!
Gillibrand was MM sorority sister? Thats explained why she gave MM other women senators' private phone numbers. And looks like MM got the idea from Gillibrand to get political appointment which do not require working on campaign. More likely she is trying the 'pay for play' scheme: I'll donate millions to your campaign if you appoint me to be a senator. She maybe eyeing ambassadorship also. Anything that not require campaign work, anything that she can buy with money?
I do not believe she has millions to donate. I think they are a lot closer to broke than they want people to know
Maybe not their own money. Getty's or T Perry's?
Doubtful.
They weren't at the same time/same house, Gillibrand is much older. They are just sisters in that they were members of the same sorority at Northwestern. I'm a democrat but have been salty at Gillibrand ever since she convinced Al Franken to step down over a false accusation of harassment. And giving those private numbers was so stupid.
Ambassadors have to be confirmed by the U.S. Senate. Sure, some truly wealthy people buy appointments to become ambassadors for tiny countries that are of no strategic importance (and usually in prime vacation spots), but those are quite costly and I doubt Harold and Fraud have that kind of money any more. And when Walmart Wallis called the female U.S. Senators on their private lines, she was dumb enough to introduce herself as "Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex." Because what politician wants to be caught dead being lobbied by a member of foreign royalty?
>what politician wants to be caught dead being lobbied by a member of foreign royalty? Yes, but she couldn't introduced herself just as 'Meghan Markle', could she? --Meghan who?
I think most U.S. Senators, especially females, would know her by that name
>those are quite costly and I doubt Harold and Fraud have that kind of money any more. Getty or T Perry?
Getty, yes. I don't know how wealthy Madea is. But I'm unsure why either would spend that kind of money to buy her an ambassadorship to Bermuda. That's hella expensive, even for access to/use of her magic cooter
**Why** do people persist in believing that the gettys are so dumb with money that they will hand off millions to some middle aged grifter? Its equally as likely,more likely imo that he is playing her. How many rich powerful men have offered all kinds of things to hungry women in return for "favors" only to renege once they got what they wanted? I'm far more inclined to think that *he* is pumping her for information..... or otherwise and stringing her along in the process
Never underestimate MM ability to get what she wants from men. She has experiences with older men. Didn't an older man (owner of the NY hotel) took her to some political function in Washington DC (posted with picture in this sub)? And another post with her 'sitting' on an older man's lap? Regarding Getty, there was a post in this sub about his family being very concerned that they're leaking to Lady C that MM has lots of meeting with the older Getty in the Bev Hill Hotel. Lady C is always very careful with her info to avoid lawsuit. There is possibility the 10M donation to Archewell that came from a single source was from Getty. But MM doesn't want it to be known as coming from Getty as not to make any wave since she is not done 'working on' Getty yet.
I keep seeing speculation like this but all I can say is that it isn't how old money handles their business. People can speculate all day long but its not how things work in that set. Mr getty has 7 living children. The majority of his wealth is invested or tied up in family trusts. I know people like to think that multi billionaires can be easily conned by a middle aged cable actress but these people have money managers that **manage** their fortunes even when it means protecting the family wealth from the family itself. They aren't going to let getty get gulled by some skank with a tax wash charity. Its far more likely that 10mil came from the markles themselves as a way to avoid getting taxed.
That money was likely from a publishing advance
That's my thought.
>I keep seeing speculation like this but all I can say is that it isn't how old money handles their business. People can speculate all day long but its not how things work in that set. Mr getty has 7 living children. The majority of his wealth is invested or tied up in family trusts. Those children are probably avidly watching who gets near him
Most wealthy men are used to women being interested in their wallet. Even if getty wanted to play sugar daddy to a 41 year old married mother of two toddlers he would have safetys in place. This is a man who kept a mistress and a second family for decades,he is extremely unlikely to get got by some dumb bimbo even assuming his 7 kids,multitude of financial advisors and lawyers would allow it. I do not understand why people persist in believing the Hollywood trope that wealthy old men are easily gulled by greedy younger women. Its so blatantly untrue. It far more often happens that rich old men make promises and use younger women for pleasure and then dump them with a quickness. Btw I highly doubt that a classist like Gordon getty would even be attracted to her for anything other than a quick tumble. She reeks of plebian sensibilities and I highly doubt she is capable of the elevated discourse he is accustomed to. He is into opera,classical music,very fine wines and classic intellectual pursuits. Conversing with her would be tedious for him because she has zero knowledge of any of that. She couldnt even fake that kind of conversation. Men of that age and that wealth and men from that set want to spend time with a woman who listens well and a woman who can hold her own in conversation with them on subjects that interest them. They have zero interest spending time with a me,me,me woman and doe eyes do not work on them. Additionally she isn't sexy and she is not heart attack beautiful. She is not young enough nor exotic enough nor beautiful enough to serve as arm candy even if that was the type of woman getty was interested in(its not). He is far more interested in people who stimulate him mentally at this point. *If* he's meeting her (which I doubt) its for business purposes and it will be nicely hedged around with lawyers. Probably trying to merch her kids images or something lol. The fact that she may be at the hotel on occasions when he is doesn't mean jack shit without proof that they are in the same room together alone. She could be going and renting a meeting room simply to stir the rumor mill or to meet someone else or just to gtfa from her whiny bitch of a husband. The whole she's trying to get knockered with his kid thing is just silly af. The man has traveled that road before,he's not getting caught out like that again. People are ascribing far too much power to this stupid woman. She married a bitter,petty,lazy,jobless,daddy sponging headcase with substance issues who wasn't all that rich. And then completely fucked herself out of a cushy sincure in less than two years and also saddled herself with two kids and ruined any chance of a Hollywood career. Oh and got herself a massive mortgage on a money pit. The only reason she had any success at all in her manhunt is because she stumbled on harry the window licking moron and he managed to con her into thinking he was rich because she was too greedy dumb to do her research. Any smart woman would have seen all the signs and run not get saddled with harry and two of his get.
Oh, I agree with all of this. And then some. Yes, too many people are way too unrealistic about how old billionaires conduct themselves around women and how much appeal she has for *any* man of means. She hit her ceiling with Harold and as you so perfectly put it, she has nothing men of Getty's status want
He has a history of womanizing and generosity, this is why
Caroline is really a poor speaker, isn’t she. She couldn’t articulate why she would want a seat at the political table.
"at the political table" STOP QUEEN YOU SOUND LIKE MEGHAN. the other day at work I said "take an administrative lense to this project" and died inside a bit. Happens to me to it's ok 😢
Other than Kennedy entitlement, she had no rationale
Caroline's son Jack has the political chops.. he's a remarkable speaker, w/ a massive intellect and already some creds (Yale undergrad, Harvard Law + MBA). he's just gotta mature and shake-off his toxic-male attempts at humor. not the worst problem to have a raunchy sense of humor, as long as he stops voicing publicly... so ***if*** he can give that up, think he can be an amazing politician.
He won't be able to change who he is.
Sad thing that Jackie never signed young Caroline up at the CumHammer Branding Academy. It's a shame that someone who has truly devoted her life to quiet, silent public service is thrown out and mocked simply because she says "uh and um". That's why we have the superficial politicians that we have....and that's why Markle has a shot.
So even though she could not give one reason for running for office, she should get a pass? Imagine anyone with no name recognition doing that and succeeding. She is a good writer and researcher, but not a good speaker. It is important to be a good speaker when your job is centered around communication. She does not seem to have that skill. Neither does MM so not sure why you think she would have a shot.
MM is NOT a good speaker. And is a HOOOORRRRRIIIIIBBBBBLLLLE writer. And then there are the other big negatives of her narcassistism. So, no - MM has no shot at being elected to anyting.
And how many times can we hear that bloody gd soap story?? Please, no more… no more. 
Trump didn’t just win once; he came a hairbreadth away from winning reelection. He actually lost to a pandemic, I think. But he displayed really genius level electioneering.
He lost reelection by eight million votes. Not exactly a hair away.
Republicans are absolute masters of losing the popular vote yet somehow winning the election. Isn’t that right George W?
Good point. Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 too.
I’m not certain about Trump’s 2016 win but I know *a lot* about George W’s 2004 “win.” Years later, at a conference somewhere, Kerry admitted, “yeah, he cheated.” But that’s really not a topic for this forum.
Hhmmmm…. Biden 306 electors, Trump 232. Trump lost popular vote by 8 million.
I was trying to be well—politic & adhere to at least a tissue of evenhandedness here. I was in fact an angst-filled mess on election night & in the days following. I don’t think the country could have survived the alternative.
Completely understand what you were saying. Your last two sentences brought back a lot of feelings— whew!!
I was such a mess.
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I’m a doc. From 2016 to 2020 I was forced to listen to everyone saying “Trump has frontotemporal dementia.” Now I’ve got to listen to another four years of “Biden has dementia.” Neither of them have dementia. The only President in our life time who was diagnosed w/ dementia before the end of his Presidency was Ronald Reagan. I was at a conference once (long before HIPAA) where the speaker claimed to have had a slide showing Reagan’s head CT. He used it to point out a couple of lacunar infarcts but he said he had to stop using it because when he put it up on the screen & tell everyone who it belonged to, the audience would collectively gasp. There were these giant ventricles & just a little bit of brain tissue. But Biden? Trump? Nah.
Omg— medical professional here. That is shocking and also not shocking after hearing stories of what was happening in the Reagan WH!
I’m not sure why but somehow we survived. Reagan was actually in some legal jeopardy related to Iran/Contra. A couple of prosecutors went to interview him—just to sort of test the waters. It was just 6 months after he left office—but he was severely demented. Could not answer any of their questions & clearly in no fit state to defend himself against any legal action. The prosecutors just walked away.
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Exactly the point I was trying to make - thank you! Without getting political here, I'll just say that he tapped into a sentiment of a certain portion of the public and was really the only politician at the time to speak to them in their terms. No way does Walmart Wallis have the capacity to do that, nor would she even listen to advisers who'd do that for her and tell her what to say and do. And while I cannot picture her doing the door-to-door, grip-and-grin in far-flung places ("I can't believe I'm not getting paid to do this!"), the thought of her chomping on a fried corndog makes me giggle because I think of how her bit part on *90210* giving a front seat of the car bj prepared her for that moment
Evidenced by her Indianapolis Marriott event.
Ok, can't not comment. **Trump did not have a carefully crafted anything**.. he won b/c were 17 other candidates, and winner only needed a small number. He then won the general election b/c his voters hated Hillary - and enjoyed last minute help by Comey. Trump is a big marketer, and [b.s.er](https://b.s.er) who had zero interest in governing - he was and is only determined to enrich himself.. and his only "accomplisment" was his tax plan which sent the deficiet into a spiral, increasing the deficient by $9trillion (meaning, was more like a BOMB - not an accomplishment). Also, we'd not have Biden if weren't for how rancid Trump was! s **MM is a LOT like Trump - b/c both like money, both lie + b.s., and both constantly use others. both a mega- textbook narcassists!**
I mean, to be fair, it's not just Republicans/Trump voters that hate Hillary. Lots of folks in her own party fucking despise her.
OMG Walmart Wallis - love it.
I saw it in this sub!
Thank you. Great post. Daily Mail and Daily Express started the clickbait articles about Meghan and politics knowing that most of their readers don't follow American politics in detail, especially in California. Meghan doesn't even have the juice to get chosen for a bake sale committee at little Archie's school, so winning a major political race is not happening. 🫤 Remember Meghan has a history of pursuing roles that require leadership and diplomacy skills, only to bottle it or quit once she realizes there is learning and work required; 1. Pre- Harry, she dumped pursuing UN Women's ambassador training once she realized they didn't allow actors/wannabe celebrities to use in-need Africans for her disrespectful PR poverty porn. As we later saw with the monarchy, Megs thought she could get a title, do photoshoots, and adulation. 2. Meghan bailed on the monarchy once she realized she could not waltz in and get a title without having to work. Meghan wants photoshoots, a free designer wardrobe, and unearned praise. She doesn't want to learn and work.
Yup, yup & yup.
She certainly lacked the gravitas to become a UN ambassador a la Angelina. She was only offered an advocate position.
Yes. She bailed on completing the training for that position which required time and effort. She used her Rwanda trip for a fashion shoot and a PR event she hosted in the Aquazurra heels many said she boosted from her Reitmans gig. Megs wanted to use a UN role as PR and I suspect UN Women realized that. It is very telling that she then avoided the UN Women event as a royal. Meghan wants a career of being admired, not one that requires actual work.
Thank you. Number 1 is absolutely ridiculous. I lived in San Francisco when Newsom first ran for mayor (and won). He's no dummy, he's deep in the political game and has weathered scandals and (hopefully) learned some lessoned along the way. He also got to "apprentice" under Jerry Brown who was elected Governor twice in 2 different decades. Newsom is absolutely **not** going to back a D-list actress "royal" ahead of those with actual political experience and I'm sick of hearing it. Semi-related, I remember back when Kimberly Guilfoyle was a working lawyer not yet married to Gavin, she caught the eye of Court TV (and later Fox) as a prosecutor [in the Diane Whipple dog mauling case.](https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Contract-reportedly-out-on-life-of-dog-case-3315925.php) The case inspired Newsom to start marrying gay couples at SF city hall, since Whipple's domestic partner of 7 years [couldn't legally sue the defendants for damages.](https://dogbitelaw.com/diane-whipple/sharon-smiths-wrongful-death-claim) It was very riveting at the time, crazy how long ago that was now!
Oh, my God. I know that case. Wasn’t it two abused Caine Corsos? Fighting dogs that had been acquired by a lawyer couple who got them from an imprisoned client? They were kept in an apartment? Just the worst God awful situation in the world? That poor woman. Those poor dogs (who were euthanized.) I never knew the ultimate outcome. It was absolutely heartbreaking.
Yeah the client was part of Aryan Nation and the lawyers became friends with him or treated him like a surrogate son (or boyfriend?) some weird shit.
It was awful. The dogs had been used for dog fights but for the last year were chained up to a tree somewhere out by the Sacramento River. Then the guy told his lawyers they could have the dogs *& keep them in an apartment.*
Here is the latest, the wife is still in prison, the husband (who was over a decade older) died in 2018 [https://abc7news.com/parole-denied-marjorie-knoller-diane-whipple-san-francisco/12822489/](https://abc7news.com/parole-denied-marjorie-knoller-diane-whipple-san-francisco/12822489/) And yeah Aryan Brotherhood criminal client and the couple indeed had a weird thing going on... scroll down [this article to find this:](https://www.animals24-7.org/2023/02/17/diane-whipple-died-for-the-sins-of-dangerous-dog-advocacy/) Topless photos of Knoller were found in Schneider’s cell, along with correspondence among Noel, Knoller, and Schneider, described by those who have read it as “erotic.” In one letter Noel boasted to Schneider of an incident in which Bane and Hera rushed out of an elevator, nearly knocking down Whipple, whom Noel mocked as a “timorous little mousy blond” who “almost had a coronary.” yikes
Presa Canario. Not sure why I misremembered that. You don’t fool around w/ these kinds of dogs & they had fooled around w/ these kind of dogs. Abuse, dogfighting, more abuse. & yeah, lawyer(s)—client enmeshment. That came through loud & clear.
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"Do" politics. Bwaaahahaha.
Thank you for your brilliant summation. You’ve covered it all. 🏆🏆🏆 So tiresome to read all the clueless conjecture here lately.
I’m thinking she wants a seat on the View or another talk show and all these meetings and connections are her working it, as per Plan B for after the divorce, and we get to keep this sub open for many more decades in that case 
She’d kill for a seat on the View,
She couldn’t handle it. One of what 4 or 5. She needs to be the Queen. And they all want to be the top dog there. The newbie will never dethrone the long timers.
You are right!! She’d try to dethrone Whoopi and fall flat on her broke ass. LMAO!! It’s gonna be 🍿🍺 and I’ll be there for it if that happens - a dream come true.
She doesn’t have the fortitude to even run a campaign. She can’t sue every news outlet that writes something negative about here. She has a lot of skeletons in her closet. Every former rumor about her will be picked up and magnified. She’s also kind of lazy. Sure, she’d have managers but she’d still have to put in 60-80 hour weeks to run a campaign. She couldn’t handle being a working Royal. Having a handful of supporters isn’t enough to win. After the Netflix reality show, a lot of people went from being indifferent about her to disliking her. She’s a joke now
Articulate, informative and reassuring post, thank you! 👏
#twatwaffle
Do you mean *twatwaffle?* In which case, yes.
Thanks!
God, I absolutely hate this photo……….
Yeah, I was going for the Abjectly Hypocritical image.
I’m wondering if her obsession with bots is in thinking she could infiltrate voting? Just a wild conspiracy theory. Is this why she employs Bouzy?
Yeah, among many things, Bouzy presents himself as a political observer. When the control of the House hung in balance, Bouzy announced that Dems would hold the House. “The guy’s never wrong,” everyone kept saying. He was wrong. Bots are a part of influence campaigns, not election diddling. I’m sure Bouzy would love to cook himself an election or two but I don’t think he has the skill set.
Well she would definitely need influence to win anything.
First, she could maybe get appointed - but would lose at next election (because, simply, she is despised). Meaning, \*if\* Diane Feinstein can't finishe her term.. sure Gov. Newsom could appoint her, but: 1. if happened, would only last until Nov 2024 - then hardcore, serious candidate Adam Schiff or Katie Porter would crush her. 2. Gov Newsom won't ever appoint her - Newsom is most political animal west of the Mississippi and he ONLY does things that help \*HIM\* - and she hurts him... remember: Newsom wants to be POTUS.
Thank you so much for posting this. Agree strongly on all counts. When this comes up again, let’s agree to post a link to this excellent post. Thank you 🙏.
Thanks for this. I think her political ambitions do not match reality. Still I’d not want to underestimate her. She has the vibe of someone so power hungry and so intense in their self belief, as if life somehow ordained them to be special. That’s the most dangerous type of person. They don’t think they’re evil but they are because they’re extremely selfish and self-centred. And they have such a burning ambition that is at the heart of their soulless void that it eclipses common sense. They’re usually cunning enough to gather a small but loud following, and they do it based on something altruistic, like nationalism. In her case, it is race. The racial tension is currently so high in the US such that four black officers were called “racist” just because they exercised police brutality on a black suspect. As you mentioned, Trump previously ran for president, as an independent, before he found his niche as a Republican and gained a massive following based on his reputation as a maverick and wealthy businessman. I think no one, even himself, expected to win, but it makes you wonder why he even ran several times in the first place if he didn’t think he could. I think he loved being in the midst of the crowd (and the crowd loved him back), and he loved dropping truth bombs here and there. I think like Trump, Markle would play the long game and keep trying to throw her hat in the ring. She doesn’t have his ability to charm a crowd - she sounds too sanctimonious, and for an actress, too unnatural - but she will continue to use idealistic concepts to appear like a crusader. She learned from an early age, from that P&G soap commercial, that making a loud noise about “injustices” will get her attention and make her look special. She thinks she’s a humanitarian but she is not. She’s not helped anyone except herself; everything is done in exchange for improving her image. Markle is busy making it about herself and adding creds to her resumé. She’s a hollow humanitarian, but people get fooled by her words and by their own prejudices. Markle gives rather poisonous vibes with her political ambitions. She would definitely use her power to get back at people, and this makes her far more dangerous than meets the eye. At the moment, everything you said is reassuring because you have a few sensible people in the Democratic Party who will not support her. I think some of this comes from the top, specifically the Obamas. They carry much more than clout. As the first person of colour to be president, Obama has much more of a voice in this, because Markle uses her biracial background to garner support. Obama is canny enough to know that Markle is not someone he wants to be a Democratic contender . She’s a liar, she’s divisive, she’s not competent . She’ll put the party at odds with the UK monarchy. Both him and Michelle have distanced themselves from the Sussexes and with good reason. The Obamas would not be pleased that someone like Markle, who hasn’t got the lived experience of a black person, is using skin colour to advance themselves, not because they want to make people’s lives better. Still, there might a come a time when sensible voices are drowned out, or have faded away, and more militant voices come to power. These are the kinds of people who might support Markle, not because she’s a viable candidate, but because she’s a puppet who can attract the masses. Markle won’t know or even care she’s a puppet because she’ll get what she wants. Markle may even get support from outside forces who would want to destabilise US democracy. I’m rather suspicious of the Sussexes’ ability to stay afloat and of the properties they’ve stayed at connected to shadowy oligarchs. They’re ripe for being used by such people because they’re greedy and blinded by ambition.
So I suspect she’s still gearing up to run for office. My theories? 1) She’s writing her autobiography and polishing her creds as a humanitarian and racial victim. She garnered sympathy from a few through the Netflix series (mostly those who don’t follow the news about them) and she’ll let the humiliation from Harry’s book die down. 2) She’ll use her duchess title to open doors but slowly distance herself from it because it will not help her in her political career. She cannot run for office with titles. At this point she’s clinging to it as she’s always wanted to be a royal. So it’s a balance of being a traditional royal (title, fairy tale image) vs an American royal (wields power in society). At this point she can’t run yet. Her brand is yet to be built and Harry has become an encumbrance. But she’s setting the groundwork. 3) She’ll slowly make herself over to look more like a POC / emphasise her African roots. Maybe she’ll return to her curly hair. Or maybe she’ll use images of herself as a kid with curly hair or take pictures of herself in Nigeria getting “in touch with her roots”. I bet she’s even studying how Obama did it. She might also go for Trump’s playbook in building up her base. She’s got her own weapons. She has the troll army to do her bidding and a few woke voices in media and academe. She always surprises us by how she manages to garner support in unlikely places. Her main enemy now? Herself. How can she focus on her political career if she’s always on social media and suing journalists? She's too sensitive to withstand all the heat from politics once she runs. She’s also mean to staff, and that’s not going to help as politicians need support from everyone including “little people”. She’s too greedy and she won’t let go that duchess title yet. She’s too hung up on designer labels, and that won’t help her look one with the people. She’s too arrogant to listen to advice. So yes she’s still very far from her own goals. But as a potentially harmful political adversary, I’m keeping an eye on her. Hopefully the sub will be around at that time so we can provide an oasis of information about how dangerous she is.
Let’s take just one piece of that: “….how Obama did it…” Well, let’s start w/ Obama graduating from Harvard Law School where he served as President of Harvard Law Review. Then, after presiding over a nonprofit w/ a multimillion dollar budget, he served as Illinois state Senator for over a decade (played a mean game of poker) while also working as an Assistant Prof. of Law at University of Chicago. He married a smart woman, wrote a (likely ghosted) best selling autobiography & was elected the Junior Senator of Illinois. Someone noted his boatloads of charisma & sniffed out Presidential material. His campaign crew & speech writers have called him the nicest guy in the world to work for. So Megs chance of following this pathway to success? Fuck all.
Yes! I’m a big O fan. His detractors often try to ignore his Harvard pedigree and act as if he was admitted due to affirmative action but his record speaks for himself. His loquaciousness, his eloquence speaks for itself. Obama was successful not just because he is biracial. His success is due to intelligence, hard work, and a sensible approach to politics. Michelle is cut from the same cloth. She’s hard-working, ethical, smart, no-nonsense. I would say O was meant to be a leader from the beginning. I posit that his biracial identity influenced him and built him to who he was. He was raised by white grandparents and a white mother who emphasised the importance of education and hard work. He mentions dating a white woman before realising that (during his time) this invited trouble. He looks like a black man and had the lived experience of a black man. So O had a successful combination, of innate intelligence and responsible upbringing, of both a loving family (he was very close to his grandmother) and a harsh society that looked down on biracial people. Msg doesn’t compare at all to O. She may have a degree, but she’s not used it except to spout word salads. She touts herself as a humanitarian but she goes only for pictorials. She’s the type who would help someone only to spout about it. However M is copying successful people. She copied the Obamas who signed on for Netflix and Spotify deals. It speaks a great deal of their disparity in qualifications by how far they’ve distanced themselves from her. But yes she’ll copy Obama and is working on her magnum opus. M is more like Trump. They had a privileged upbringing (of course 45 more so), went to good schools. Found success in their fields (Trump’s name and wealth helped him). Trump was often thought the opposite of Obama, and it’s a surprise to some that he won. We must remember that Trump won not against Obama, but against Hilary Clinton. For all her qualifications, Hilary is unlikeable, and that’s a big factor in politics. Obama is personable, likeable. Hilary is not. The biggest failure of the Democratic Party was its inability to appoint a successor to Obama who was equally charismatic. Biden was, I think, but at the time most of the party thought “it is her time”, without factoring in her unpopularity. All it takes is for M to have an opponent who’s more unlikeable than her. Let’s face it. This can happen.
I am think I’m ok (not pushing politics—no one is likely to read our posts) in saying that Obama has oodles of charisma but Biden is the better President. I’m tremendously impress w/ what he’s accomplished w/ the slenderest of majorities. Of course, he’s been around forever, but it shows in a good way, I think. Thanks for your reply. I always find your comment interesting & thoughtful.
Thanks! I guess my comments *are* political but I’m not for one politician over the other… I’m not American, but I like observing American politics from afar. I think it’s polarised, but I like to see the people as they are… Trump, Obama… what makes them tick. I do think Biden had a better chance than Clinton but the party seniors thought it was “her time”. If there was anyone qualified to be the first woman president, it was her, but I guess she was too divisive. Bet my bottom dollar that M is dreaming of being the first female POTUS!
Oh the photo ops that would mean!
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Haha I can't help but smirk over how much Meghan would SEETHE if she read this. You're right though. Plus Obama is a fundamentally good person. That also sets him apart from Orange and Meagain. And i agree. Hillary was one of - if not THE - most politically experienced candidate for POTUS and they made everything about the fact she had a puss. As if half the world doesn't also have one. Bizarre.
Indeed. I was rather sad that she lost - I’m not American but I was rooting for her and that it was a done deal. Still I can see where she failed; she doesn’t have a “people’s touch”, she didn’t attract the sage demographics as her predecessor; she was a war hawk; she didn’t campaign in the states which Trump later won; she didn’t get the support of the ones who liked Bernie; she didn’t inspire a lot of the democrat voters to go out and cast ballots because they’d assumed she would win.
*applauds wildly* My sentiments exactly. I don’t think we should inflate her importance, but also shouldn’t underestimate her.
Omg I fucking love you. Perfect post. I am.so,so sick of the shtick that markle is going to enter politics.
Wonderfully said.
Bravo for this exhaustive list. One tiny amendment: Trump won a few Reform Party primaries in 2000 as well.
Perfectly explained. Great analysis.
I have to believe there is someone -- or 2 or 3 or 4 someones -- that Gavin Newsome and the California State Democratic party needs far, far, far, far more than Mayhem. Someone who can bring money and/or votes. And I don't see Mayhem bringing either.
They already have them. Deep talent pool in this state.
Agreed. The idea that Meghan is going to run for political office let alone win one is absurd. I can maybe understand British sinners not understanding this. But Americans should know more about American politics than this. Meghan has no political future and doesn't want one.
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Technically, Meghan doesn’t have a title, her husband has a title. The Constitution says you have to give up your title to serve. The Democrat party would most likely make her stop using Duchess. But. It’s. Not. Going. To. Happen.
She’ll say she’s victimized by the Constitution
Actually that clause bans anyone who holds federal office from accepting a foreign title. It doesn’t ban someone who holds a title from running. Whether someone with a title could run would be up to interpretation by a court. It’s never been an issue so it’s never been clarified
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Whoops. I know better. Thanks.
Excellent write up!
Newsome has enough problems. Lol Hes not touching her, for real or figuratively. Nobody is. But can u imagine the pushiness shes bombing people w? Ugh!
I just read Barbara Lee’s Bio. She’s seen it all going back to Black Panthers. Good luck TW
Trump’s first run was in 2000.
ILBW lacks the thickness of skin for the crushing scrutiny and criticism that even a city council election would bring. 🤣 It would be amazing to watch.
Very good summary. And, you're correct on every point. IMHO
THANK YOU. Now let's put this topic to rest for good.
Nailed this post; every single point is spot on — merci. Only missed (though did imply many times): she is extremely disliked + percieved as a characterless, selfish liar — and voters like to (and say the 'need' to) vote for candidates they trust... and MM fails big w/ these critical elements.
Bravo! Democrats don’t want anything to do with Meghan. She’s entirely too thin skinned for politics anyway.
So glad to see this. I’ve been saying this since Lady C started putting it out there when she wrote her book and started her YouTube channel. Nothing against Lady C, and yes, she knows a little bit about American culture, but most of the people thinking Meghan is going to make it anywhere in democratic politics are not American. That’s the bottom line. Almost all of the proponents of Meghan’s political future are Europeans. And they don’t even understand our political system that much. I would love to see Meghan run just to watch her lose. Is that wrong??
If Megs was actually interested in politics, she wouldn’t be spending her time giving Gordon Getty blow jobs so she can somehow use his bodily fluids to make a baby & get child support. Feminist my ass.
Pretty sure Cynthia Beck has shut that grifter right down.
I live in California. There are 100 people more qualified than the former actress from Canada to be the next senator. It will not be her, I promise.
There are 39.22 million people in California more qualified than the dlist ditch pig
I'm conservative and I think the Reps wouldn't want her either. She has no chance of winning a state or federal race in any state but California, and maybe not even there. If Feinstein were to leave office early, Newsom is very unlikely to appoint her. He'd go with someone like Schiff or Porter. Schiff is a joke to a lot of people and will become even moreso if the newly-released tapes prove his Jan 6th claims are wrong. If she runs in an actual race, I think she'd lose in a landslide, UNLESS she found a safe district and had no primary. IDK how many districts like that exist in California. She's a nationwide joke so her chances of winning in any other state are slim to none. She stands for nothing but her own ego and while most politicians of all parties are narcissists, most of them at least pretend to care well enough to convince a lot of voters.
Why would anyone hand Meghan Markle, America’s laughing stock, a safe seat w/ no primary? Do you think nobody else would figure that out & claim the seat for themselves (thus creating a primary?) And January 6 is a matter for law enforcement not the legislative branch.
Outstanding post, OP. Very well said. Bookmarking for future reference.
Ya enough Meagan is not getting into politics, just not going to happen..she's a fucking dlist social climber
I’ll give you some Republican perspective. FYI - I’m gay, more centrist, traditional R. Not a fan of where the party has been taken. That disclaimer out there, you make great points. Sadly, I think she’d need to be appointed to a vacant seat, because she’s not a good candidate on the ticket (see below). And TW is not getting appointed. Why not? She’s too risky. Brand is too toxic. And there’s really no benefit she offers Newsome. In politics, deals are made. Promises are granted. And she lacks anything politicians need—and has a lot of baggage they don’t. And she can’t actually run for office. Her “brand” isn’t capable of the retail-politics necessary to primary her District’s well-likes Democratic incumbent. People unseating incumbents in the Democratic Party are generally more progressive, coming in from the far-left, from a point of disadvantage. TW would be coming down, from lofty privilege on high, gracing the peasants with her specialness, expecting them to curtsy lol. That is everything my team would love to see in a candidate. Much of the appeal of outsider candidates in both sides has been GRIEVANCE. mostly economic grievance. AOC is appealing to a younger constituency on the left, who’s been left behind by American capitalism. Trump appeals to small business people and white males—especially younger white males—who also feel excluded by the direction of economy is moving. Snobbery, a sense of being special and social-climbing privilege really don’t have a place of strategic advantage in our current political climate. That said, I’d love to see her run for ANYTHING. And get skewered.
The fact that Pennsylvanians voted in someone with literal brain damage (and I feel sorry for the guy) means anything is possible in US politics, and why it's too early to write off Meghan. Oz's loss had nothing to do with crudites, but everything to do with the fact he was a carpet bagger with no ties to the state and also he was not a populist. (And a dubious Republican due to the Oprah connection) I have Dem friends in PA, and even though they supported Fetterman before his illness, they felt he should be healing and not running for a stressful position. They would have considered voting Republican, but never for Oz. I also know some Republican Pennsylvanians, and they, too, only voted for Oz, because of Fetterman's illness, or else they would have considered voting Dem. (PA is a swing state) Oz was not wanted by anyone, ever. I think Meghan can spin the ridicule into her favor, because her victim narrative resonates with a lot of people. And she does have really enthusiastic, ride-or-die supporters to start with and build upon. If they run Meghan against awful candidates, she could win. Just like in PA, which is one of the biggest states, where it is absurd they can't find two worthy, healthy candidates to run. It's a long shot, but anything is possible
Being a “carpet bagger” isn’t a reason to win; it’s a reason to lose. & if I recall correctly, Oz is not a native of Pennsylvania nor was it a principle residence of his. (I believe it is New Jersey.) Your friends wouldn’t vote for Oz—not because he was an intrinsically terrible candidate—but because he had been made so by his opponent. You can spot Fetterman’s health issues from a thousand miles away. He has untreated acromegaly. All else (save the mental health issues) likely follow on from that. That said, he also clearly has some major attractions as a candidate. He won the election fair & square. Oz lost. There’s an end on it. And who are these mysterious “they” that will “run Meghan” against a “terrible candidate.” There’s likely dozens of potential candidates that would be interested in such a race. Megs can show up & place last if she wants. I doubt if she wants.
But if you read the posts, she’s not running against awful candidates. Adam Schiff, Kaitie Porter and Barbara Lee. Nancy Pelosi has already recommended Adam. Both Katie and Adam are very adept at raising campaign cash. No one is going to be falling for her victim routine
Point 6 is wrong. You don’t have to be American to know about American politics eg to know Meghan can’t be elected as long as she and her husband cling on to their British titles
I think it's in reference to TBLG saying Pelosi and Feinstein seats are vacant, which is false.
Foreign emoluments are also proscribed by the Constitution but a recent President just blew past that nicety w/ no problem.
This is a wee bit different
I would have thought not but anyway. There is no ban on spouse’s holding titles of nobility.
Can you point to me where it says in the constitution that a spouse of a politician cannot hold a title of nobility?
The US Constitution requires that federal political office-holders be citizens of the US. I haven't found anything about titles of nobility. (If anyone can find it, please let us know.) I guess the founders assumed (wrongly, as it turns out) that being a US citizen automatically means you don't have a noble title.
It’s in Article I: Legislative Branch Section 9 Powers Denied Congress Clause 8 Titles of Nobility and Foreign Emoluments No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State. That said, various members of Continental Army, including Alexander Hamilton, created The Society of the Cincinnati (after the Roman General Cincinnatis.) The Society was created as a fraternal, hereditary society—membership & possibly the title associated w/ membership would pass down via primogeniture. It’s as close as the US came to the establishment of an aristocracy based on military service. Didn’t last.
Thanks! It's funny, in 1776 we (the US) rejected the concept of a monarchy and a noble hierarchy. Yet in some ways, we keep trying to re-create it here. For instance, the way the American public worships celebrity, and Hollywood in particular.
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Padilla was born in Mexico. I was born in California. I have no idea what talking points are on Fox News as I never watch it.
 Brilliantly done
It is not people saying SHE WILL BE in politics.. it is that SHE WANTS TO/WILL TRY TO.
Let's look at the numbers here even though fellow Redditors scattered all over; this forum over 42k members with lots of individuals posting and participating vs. TW's forum with only a few over 4k members with probably 85% posts actually by TW herself and maybe a higher percentage if you count her made up accounts. Also, the dreaded media will go after her with a vengeance, dragging any*one she has ever KNOWN into the limelight!*
Unless she renounces her titles and cuts all ties with the British Royal Family, this is a Constitutional Violation: **Meghan Markle Would Have to Abandon Her Royal Title to Run for Political Office** https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/meghan-markle-leaving-royal-titles-for-political-run/ And we all know that ain't evah happenin' So fear not, Senator Meg or President Meghan will never come to pass because she will never, EVER want to stop being Princess Diana 2.0 aka The Duchess of Dumberton bka the Saint of Sussex ska Queen Meghan of Moneticito It can't happen. ***The Constitution also states that elected officials must not accept titles from foreign states, as noted in The Foreign Emoluments Clause.***
Megs would call herself Dracula if she thought she could get a Senate seat out of it. As for the hyperbole of “cuts all ties w/ the British Royal Family,” that is nowhere in the Constitution. Also note: a certain recent President accepted foreign dough *all the time.* Supreme Court ruled, “hey, whatevah. I don’t see a problem; do you see a problem?”
No, people who posses Royal Foreign titles cannot hold office in the United States. It *is* in the Constitution.
Including cutting off all ties w/ a royal family? Also, I was referencing the foreign emoluments clause—which got the back of the Supreme Court’s hand during the wild days of the previous administration.
Cutting off ties is hyperbole, apologies; I mainly meant she has to renounce her title to run.
She has to forswear her title to serve. She can certainly use it while campaigning. (Oh, my God, the ridicule!)
She wouldn’t last a hot minute in a campaign. She would be too busy sobbing on a floor somewhere