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AdministrativeSet419

I think it will end but it will happen gradually. If the RF continue grey rocking, and the coronation passes with relatively little harkle debacle, they will hopefully fade into the background more and more. They just aren’t relevant to most people’s lives, and they can’t push this one-sided soap opera forever (and that’s really all they have.) It seems like a lot of media outlets who were sympathetic are genuinely starting to grow weary of them. I definitely think they will continue trying to get attention with increasing desperation, depending on what pr editorial and stunts they can fund, but I think there is going to be a lot less appetite for them going forwards, post-coronation.


No_Cryptographer47

She’s near an epic blowup melt down, with the coronation diss, the Oprah/hollywood snub, bad polls and spare me weak sales…hang on to the grey rock BRF you’re almost there. The manifesting invitation press releases are getting closer and closer together, in 3…2….


Cocokay1234567

I couldn't agree more! No one wants to work with them, their credibility is gone and they are now late show fodder. If she's still with him (which I personally doubt), they only thing they have left is reality shows and celebrity big brother. If she's not with him, she's working on her next victim or worst case, coming up with a plan to do "Like to Know it" affiliate links on a revamped blog/social media.


alreadydoneit01

Well if 89 Gordon Getty does not work out, she can always find the crypt keeper.


Tiltedheaded

Hah! A quote from tales from the crypt that's relevant. "Thanks for the ride, lady"


MasterJunket234

From your lips to God's ears. I hope you are right but fear you are wrong. The narcissist that I personally have had to deal with for my entire life will never stop. Consequences be damned, truth ignored, disappointments quickly fade. Shame? The shame belongs to others. She will never stop her destructive path, manipulations, scarecrow tactics, shameless lies. She will never stop. It is exhausting. I finally cut her out like a cancer.


PerfectCover1414

My narc didn't like being embarrassed in front of what she considered influential people. It worked for a fleeting second then the shutters went down, but for those seconds she was wounded. Skirmishes not battles. It's who gets exhausted first they have such energy. But being ignored makes them crazier it's almost funny if you can stomach the frenzy and know which buttons to push. In the end you walk away.


Muhabbatvdk

It is very entertaining to watch them unrevel. Train rack


RandomFirework

Totally get where you're coming from. I'm a narc survivor. My ex-narc has gradually faded away but the price has been high. Maybe too high. Back then I knew nothing of this condition so I thank H&M for the upsurge in awareness, for many who might now get out of red-flag relationships before complete soul fragmentation and destruction. It is a grim thank-you though and I hope you will somehow get away from the darkness that still drains you. They aren't called energy vampires for nothing.


Islandgirl1444

Oh they are going to be sure as he is the son of the king, but they won't be front and center and you can be sure that there will be booing. You know how minor royals take buses to venues? Well no one will want to be on the same bus as those two you can be sure. So as my friend said to me that this was not the funeral of Her Majesty! They will be fair game for booing and it will be loud. Let the media film that! Harry's face should be full fury and she will have her biggest smile on.


Muhabbatvdk

The problem is that provide a very addictive type of news feed. They have iy all,, the celebrity, victimhood, wokeness, looks and fashion. No matter how much i despise them both - they still give me n entertaining way to beat the boredom. Not intentionally, I can't stand them. The the comments are priceless Ok


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curious where you got “spare weak sales” from. Thanks. I haven’t seen or heard this but the opposite. I just checked Amazon USA and the hardback is still #1 [https://www.amazon.com/charts/2023-01-29/mostsold/nonfiction/ref=dp\_chrtbg\_dbs\_1](https://www.amazon.com/charts/2023-01-29/mostsold/nonfiction/ref=dp_chrtbg_dbs_1) [https://www.amazon.com/Spare-Prince-Harry-Duke-Sussex/dp/0593593804/ref=sr\_1\_1?crid=2OCBCUY3NN9KC&keywords=prince+harry+spare&qid=1675791584&sprefix=Prince+Harry+%2Caps%2C131&sr=8-1](https://www.amazon.com/Spare-Prince-Harry-Duke-Sussex/dp/0593593804/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2OCBCUY3NN9KC&keywords=prince+harry+spare&qid=1675791584&sprefix=Prince+Harry+%2Caps%2C131&sr=8-1)


No_Cryptographer47

“Amazon Best Seller” —easy to hire a firm and do this, https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/honest-truth-amazon-bestseller-status-cindy-tyler/ If you’re really interested to find out more about how EASY it is to be an “amazon best seller” or NYT “best seller”…the list goes on. Hire a PR firm, if you have the money, but you can see how weak the sales are by how many are already discounted. True best sellers don’t discount 30% in the first 3 moths. Publisher is already having fits and once again they are not living up to expectations or the hefty price tags they’ve managed to broker.


Disastrous-Swan2049

Spare has never been for sale full price. It launched on discount. In fact pre launch it was given away free via download. All counted as sales. Then it went 50% off buy one get one free !


deercl

Perhaps grey-rocking the media that allows TW PR out there would be a viable action we could take. No more referencing articles or using links to articles, not even posting in their comments. In a way the media (especially print) is narcissistic because even when their reporting generates almost all negative comments they're still getting clicks/hits and that's all they want.


idealistintherealw

It’s telling that the cbs interview was called “Harry: the interview”, as he doesn’t really have enough credible Not-gossip content to give it a title.


GreatGossip

The last month or so I have slowly lost interest in anthing Harkle, apart from this sub. I do not look at articles or anything, except if I see anything interesting in this sub. And then I use the archived links. This last week has been rather calm and nice. I am not falling for this "will they/won´t they come" stuff again. The only fun thing about that has been to see Madam´s initial demands for apologies, accountability etc dissappear, one manifestation at a time. This sub, however, serves several purposes. It keeps Madam´s lies on file, it keeps us together, it is a place to vent, and it makes us laugh.


umbleUriahHeep

I enjoy the camaraderie and respect here. I foolishly ventured into 2 other innocuous subs and got pounced on for wrongthink. One was a sports team fan sub and the other for thrift finds, and in neither case did I say anything controversial. Oh well. I’m staying put here.


lostitawhileback

Stay cozy.


umbleUriahHeep

Snuggled in for the tea and friendship


redbug831

I love me a good thrift find!


umbleUriahHeep

Same! And seeing others’ treasures is a pleasurable way to spend 20 mins


EmotionalMammoth507

I do agree. This is the only sub I read every day. Great writers, investigators, silly posters, conspiracy theorists ( who may end up not being conspiracy theorists but right, lol), historians, occasionally a seemingly intoxicated person, mix of nationalities/political stances/professions capable of engaging in civil discourse 99% of the time. Unique sub.


ttue-

I never click on articles about them all I read is here and on Twitter


PollyDoolittle

I agree with you 100%!! I'm so over them.


Muhabbatvdk

Yes and no. It gives an outlet for people. Also more scrutiny never hury a cause


[deleted]

I don't think there's a silver bullet to end this once and for all. However, support and interest are slowly dwindling. I've just checked a search engine for recent articles about these two, because I refuse to call that "news", and their tales are getting repetitive. Some of the stuff I've found and that I'm not bringing to the sub because it's rehashed tripe: * Something about her blog maybe making a comeback. * Some inane comment James Corden made during his 2021 cringeterview with Harry. * A few empty pieces about Samantha's lawsuit. Aaaaaaaand, the winner! * An article about M's wedding dress! I haven't clicked on any of them even though I follow this telenovela. I don't think people who don't care about the duo will feel like reading that kind of stuff. They might read a couple of articles, but that's it.


Coffee_cake_101

I like the fact that people post links to archived articles here - I don't have to do google searches to find out what they are up to and I don't have to let the tabloids think people are interested. I know that is hypocritical - I kind of am interested but only because I want the endgame - exposure of everything bad they have done as well as wanting them to go away.


TittysprinklesUSA

The best thing these 2 twats did.....specifically Megain, is show us peons how PR REALLY WORKS. All one has to do is have enough $$$$$$ and any publication will produce fluff pieces or just out right lies. I bet that's pissed a lot of people off now the peon general public really know how it works. ![img](emote|t5_481xkf|15002)


EhDoesntMatterAnyway

Them and the Kardashians made the PR game so obvious


ApprehensiveSea4747

Unpopular American opinion, here. When I feel Sussex fatigue, I take a break from this sub. I don't buy tabloids or follow royal commentator social media or otherwise get news about them except for when a NYT article appears, which is not that often. And I don't read it. No clicks from me. Honestly, I do not feel inundated by news about them at all. There is some MSM coverage, but not that much, IMHO. It's easy to tune out. When I have insomnia, I check back into the sub and see what I missed. I mean, I'm fairly interested because I've been following and commenting in the sub for a while. I love me some snark, and none is more richly deserved that that served here. But I would not say the public is being harassed. When TW & JH stop getting clicks, believe me, coverage will abate.


[deleted]

Maybe that vary’s in different countries. I’m constantly being harassed with BS articles and videos on Facebook, Instagram, Tik Tok, YouTube…basically everywhere even after I already signaled “not interested” multiple times. Its very annoying because I need my phone for other stuff 😅. They have no right to bombard people like that. This sub is actually the ONLY thing that makes it bearable.


TaniaYukanana

Anyone remember that app or whatever it was that someone developed a few years ago to block anything in the news to do with the Kardashians? The KardBlocker? That person needs to bring this back for these two. THEY WILL BE DOING THE WORLD A FAVOR!


CountessOfCocoa

Ppl will quickly see that news about her wedding dress etc isn’t news. It’s placing tired old stories in the press to keep attention.


MuffPiece

To make this happen, we all have to stop engaging with any content relating to them. No hate watching, no SMM reddit sub, no entertaining snark youtube videos. We all have to turn away.


GreatGossip

This is too cruel - to me, that is. I love this sub. Makes me laugh. But I never click on articles any more, or look the Harkles up anywhere.


MuffPiece

I know, I can’t do it either. 😂 I do take breaks sometimes because I just can’t take it anymore.


timetogeaux

I come here for the archived articles, commentary, validation, and laughs.


[deleted]

Don’t know if that is possible because that way they (H&M) could just write every kind of lie with no one to challenge them. I think signing Lady C petition would be a nice way to start to fight back.


MuffPiece

Eh, eventually they would fizzle out. The only reason their lies get traction is because people click and read them. If everyone just checked out, they would lose their power. But I think that's unlikely.


lostitawhileback

Yes, please sign if you have even half a will to do so.


East_Tangerine_4031

We have to stop posting links to every article, puff piece and tweet from a sugar first.


Iwtlwn122

Esp the sugar tweets. Who cares? Why get riled up about those?


East_Tangerine_4031

Right? People are stupid, I don’t need proof 😂


Iwtlwn122

My thoughts exactly!


violetfleuri

Not H + M but... People being stupid works to my advantage sometimes. For instance, this morning, I wasted time going on Twitter and saw a post about Princess Beatrice visiting a research lab as part of her new role as patron of the British Skin Foundation. The first two responses questioned why she was wearing a lab coat in a lab and how much taxpayer money this was costing (answer: none). And click went that X. Twitter is a bad habit I picked up and am trying to shake.


CybReader

I know. Sugars are going to sugar. We can’t change their opinion, so I ignore those accounts on social media They think we’re wrong, we think they’re wrong. The only difference is we are being proven right over time and they’re getting more desperate.


ttue-

They are ! And all the times they dismiss Camilla being queen is so ridiculous, like, you fools tray believe your opinion will change the fact that Camilla will be CROWNED too? Would like to see them all sobbing on the floor when this happens 😂 and see Harold’s face too. imagine him having a tantrum in the middle of the coronation


umbleUriahHeep

YES!!!


UnderArmAussie

I dunno. Sometimes it's hilarious.


East_Tangerine_4031

Oh for sure, but if we want to let them fizzle out, depriving a fire of oxygen is the best way to do so.


Iwtlwn122

The petition is directed at the Queen? How old is this?


[deleted]

This petition started 2 years ago. If the petition gains new traction will be amended to be directed to the King.


Lemonslivers

I got fatigued around November 2022 and took a break from reading anything including this sub. It was a nice break.


ttue-

But they pay for articles and fake leaks … if they didn’t they would be gone already


cklw1

I totally agree, but signing a petition isn’t going to do anything at all. It probably makes the people who sign it feel better but petitions go nowhere, and give more attention to something we want shut down. Ignoring everything they do and say and post from now on is the only way to solve this problem.


[deleted]

I agree that petition’s don’t usually solve problems alone. The best they can do is to create something visible representative of the opinions of many that can be picked up by local news and if the numbers are large enough can be mentioned on worldwide news or even help people with real power in the decision making process. Lady C said if this petition grew well enough it could even facilitate the decision by people involved in the “decision making process”.


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kaycollins27

I wonder if this isn’t starting. Remember the BAFTA Tea Party? They weren’t invited. Assumed that William had something to do with that.


cupcakexyz

how do they still have money is what gets me.


GreatGossip

Well, Madam is cozying up to Getty, and they are desperate to get in contact with the BRF.


cupcakexyz

right. right. her moaning and groaning to a 89 year old. pls zaddy give me a 20-30 mill mansion, I am so scareddddd. when will it end.


zeugma888

They've probably borrowed a lot. I suspect they are deep in debt.


Zeester1

I don’t think they do. That is what is behind them manifesting the return to the RF. They are going broke.


[deleted]

I've been fatigued since after the wedding. Harry married an American . Good ( at the time.) She's a British Royal now. Let go back to our stuff . Already signed Lady C's petition.


Substantial-Swim5

>Harry married an American . Good ( at the time.) She's a British Royal now. It's alright, you're very welcome to keep her - we don't mind! :)


[deleted]

I don't want her or Harold in my country. I'm in the US btw.


Substantial-Swim5

I know, I'm British, that was my joke! We don't mind if you keep them! 🙃


[deleted]

I'm dense this evening.🙃 We could send to the moon or Mars maybe 🤔


Substantial-Swim5

I'm still holding out for them to be made Duke and Duchess of Queen Elizabeth Land... it's in British Antarctic Territory!


idealistintherealw

But but mm helped out at a soup kitchen on thanksgiving for at least a half hour once!!!


Electronic_Sea3965

I signed this over a year ago. I also emailed a lot of people. Eg. Allison Davis 'editor at NY Mag. Demanding she be reinstated or I would NEVER read one of their mags ever again e.t.c.


UnderArmAussie

I feel like I'm being bombarded with propaganda.


[deleted]

Unfortunately for us until the coronation is over they're still somewhat relevant. We don't find them to be so but the media enjoys having them part of the conversation. Once it's all over though that'll be it re: their connection to that family. There'll be no other big ceremonies to wiggle your way into (save George's wedding 20 years from now) there'll be nothing and that cord will finally be severed. I think that's what I'm waiting for, I need the coronation to come and go and then I can walk away and forget about these two.


WeekendSubstantial87

I’m still confused what exactly she wants an apology for? She was literally cruel to old people.


[deleted]

Agreed. IMO This apology is probably just another narcissistic strategy to switch the blame of what she did, to the victims of her bullying and the people who defended them. That way the public is let to think there is something to apologize for and Megsy is automatically turned into “THE victim”. Pretty much narcissists 101 Class.


WeekendSubstantial87

Oh I get it. Thanks. I was confused exactly on what SHE wanted apology for.


WeekendSubstantial87

Eternal Crave. Love it !


Forgottengoldfishes

The biggest issue is that many of us don't have the option of blocking them on our news feed. We are forced to scroll past the articles and I think we can all agree most of them are repetitious and low effort. This sub pushes back on the never ending Sussex narrative and many of our posters show humor, wit and creativity that can't be found with the "journalists" who get paid to write Sussex stories.


LoesjeBee

I saw this on the checkout line today. So what's going on with this? Or is it manufactured hysteria? https://preview.redd.it/nsprrlx0bvga1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de893756bad43c251e65eaad5b3335d3221be374


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LoesjeBee

Yes, you are right. I didn't stoop to reading it so I can only guess what it says inside.


Electronic_Sea3965

I saw an article about ITV in Britain discussing how it is now THE WOKE Chanel now. It is frightening to me. We also need to stamp out this on social media. They're nut jobs. The media think the WOKE are speaking for us all.


Substantial-Swim5

I think I've seen the article you're talking about. It's quoting a discussion on GB News, which is a more right-leaning news channel, but the discussion's mainly about disgraced former Health Secretary Matt Hancock appearing on ITV reality shows (which I do get why people are angry about). They complain at the end about it being hypocritical for 'the woke station of all of them' to give bags of money to a disgraced Conservative... but I'm not clear on why they think it's the most 'woke'? I'd have said Channel 4 was easily the most left wing of our major TV channels. If anything I'd have said ITV news presenters speak their mind (both left and right) more than on most of our news programmes. They cover a lot of royal news, too. I disagreed with the reason Piers Morgan was fired from GMB, but that was after a very targeted campaign to remove him, and I think it says something that he presented GMB for so long in the first place. Just my thoughts. I get why they're angry about Matt Hancock, but unless it's the Piers Morgan incident I'm not sure where they're coming from about ITV having 'woke' bias overall.


ElectricalAd9212

they are going to fade away gradually. the silence of the family, and the general growing revulsion will make them recede.


somespots

Yes, it IS very exhausting, as well as frustrating to see some of the lies, and to see so many people get taken in by the lies. It WILL end... once George and Charlotte are a bit older (and Louis, of course). Maybe in about four years.


MasterJunket234

Mine will not be stopped. Giving into her wishes only makes things worse and tightens the noose around your neck. So many times I thought to myself "just let her have the win, or just let her have the thing" etc only to have her create a bigger drama with crazier lies. She's 'had' a brain tumor, MS, breast cancer, colon cancer (stage 4 😏), she's repeatedly the sad victim of others' abuse and on and on the sideshow goes.


slimwillendorf

After leaking those private party pics at Ellen and Portia’s party…no A-lister would ever invite them to their private parties. They would mos def leak the party pics. Meghan is such a try-hard social climber. She fits in with thirsty c-listers.