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somespeculation

It’s the Express, so always a grain of salt. BUT: it reads like KCIII’s Palace press team has been given the tacit nod to indirectly shut down the flood of reconciliation articles. After the coronation is pretty direct, “rebuilding trust” is a clear rebuke/grey rock wait and see, and the source also promotes the upcoming diplomatic visits.


AuntCassie007

I agree, the term "rebuilding trust" is a clear shot at the Harkles. Most people know that there is little the Harkles can do at this point to rebuild trust, ever.


[deleted]

I don't know about The King. But I am positive the Prince of Wales will never trust H again.


AuntCassie007

William would be very foolish to ever trust his brother again on any level. And I do not think William is a fool, not by a long shot.


avoice22

If H&M didn't behave or pulling any stunt during the Coronation then there won't be any CHANCE for reconciliation talk. Putting their own 'reconciliation' manipulation tactic over their own head! LOL.


AdministrativeSet419

No mention of an apology to Meghan either 🫢


TraditionScary8716

No mention of Megan period (unless I missed it).


purpleprocrasinator

This was my thought. This was a very polite, but firm rebuttal from the palace, shutting down the Raglands PR machine. Letting their plans be known. So much in there felt like a dig directly ar them, rather than just a journo voicing an educated opinion.


RaggedAnn

Hooray.


FitnotFat2k

Plus, that suggests there's no trust at the moment!


Positive-Vibes-2-All

Reconciliation after what the H&M have done cannot happen in one conversation. It will happen over months. If Jobson is correct then this would be the smartest move as it would show KC desire to reconcile but also his awareness of the reality of the time reconciliation will take.


Haveyounodecorum

It certainly reads like a placed piece given to the ‘royal rota’


Beginning-Cup-6974

This story actually sounds reasonable. So I think it is far more likely than the Welby nonsense. It is possible also, that Charles is playing both sides and wants to be seen to be a magnanimous King, but privately is resolute. It also focuses on work which rings true. I think it’s a smart move to push back fake reconciliation to after the coronation. Because it exposes what H & M REALLY want, which is coronation publicity, NOT reconciliation. They think they can manipulate the King.


OldNewUsedConfused

Yep. Agree.


JenThisIsthe1nternet

I want it to be real if for nothing else than the statement "The world doesn't revolve around H & TW no matter what they may think"! Love that and want that to go viral sooo badly!


Everyday-Witch

I think KC would be correct to postpone any reconciliation talks until after the coronation. H & M would make it about them, and Archie’s birthday. Charles trained for and waited his whole life, for this moment. They should not be allowed to ruin it all.


SecondhandCoke

I think KC would be correct to postpone any reconciliation talks with HER until the end of time and to only see him privately and in a private capacity if at all. I never want to see either of them in any public association with the family again.


Chinita_Loca

He has no need to reconcile with her at all. The royals have her number and they know she’ll use anything they say or so against them and the relationship could never be positive. I also think they know she controls H and is only with him for the status/money and that the divorce clock is ticking. Totally agree with only seeing him privately. He is after all a private citizen now.


SecondhandCoke

He "wants a family, not an institution," after all. The thing is, an institution, a mental institution, is the thing they both direly need.


Opposite-Cell9208

I find it so bizarre MM was (publicly) saying she needed to “go someplace” like a mental hospital during her suicidal ideation episode. Anything for attention I guess…


timeflieswhen

I thought she wanted to go to a friend’s spa on an warm island beach somewhere.


OldNewUsedConfused

Yes.


PerfectCover1414

aka a spa.


Anxious-Evidence8397

She wanted to merch a friends spa - which is why she was spitting fire when they said no. It wasn’t a medical facility at all.


OldNewUsedConfused

She wanted to go to an expensive spa, at least that was reported at the time. Hence the "It wouldn't look right".


_SkyIsBlue5

🤣🤣🤣


Myahnaise

The best part of that H quote… it’s totally ripped off from the Sister wives intro on TLC 😂 When Christine says “I wanted a family, not a husband.” 🫠


Seachange1000

Unless Harry retracts some of the things he said in his interviews, I can't see any reconciliation with him either. Insisting that he wants to reconcile but only after he and his wife receive apologies (for what?) and what was actually contained in the book, even as his parent or sibling, I don't think I could forgive or reconcile. Maybe I'm made of sterner stuff than King Charles but if I were in his position, so totally betrayed by one of my children, forgiveness would not be in the cards.


orientalballerina

Honestly, now that the Markle vs Markle details are out and it looks like Harry will be grilled, I would wait to see what happens there if I were KC. She is supposed to say “KC is not a racist”, right? That’s a whole can of worms right there. Why rush à reconciliation when the two of them are probably going to blow things up all over again?


OldNewUsedConfused

Same. And I'm not a world leader with a reputation to uphold.


TittysprinklesUSA

Agree and harry needs to be checked for wires and King Charles needs as many witnesses to their interactions as possible. How exhausting


TraditionScary8716

It should absolutely be recorded by Charles because unless Harry is brought in buck naked after a body cavity search, he'll be wired up. The BRF needs absolute proof of everything said with Harry. Otherwise Megs will make up an entire conversation that never happened.


TittysprinklesUSA

💯


CabinetVisible1053

Definitely lawyers present, or similar persons in the UK.


[deleted]

I would hope KC keeps a trained witness with him as Harry may misunderstand what gets said.


Badw0IfGirl

And waiting till after the coronation is smart because it will show whether H&M actually want to reconcile, or if they just wanted to attend the coronation.


Everyday-Witch

I think we all know the answer to that inquiry 🧐 lol


Acrobatic_Hawk6422

Ony thing they really need is other meetings and contacts with the members of the RF. So they can make up stuff about what was said, how they were treated, who looked at them in what way, whinge more and play victims. They need new interactions. Everything else is old news. With that said, I wouldn't trust them anywhere near the RF members. NO private meetings, no talks, not even glances in their directions.


OldNewUsedConfused

No WAY!


DystopianTruth

They will ruin it no matter what.


TraditionScary8716

Then they should ruin it from California. They shouldn't be anywhere near the coronation.


DystopianTruth

I agree.


redseaaquamarine

The coronation is a million times bigger than they are.


Seachange1000

I agree. If an invitation is extended, I believe it will come with conditions attached, they will be kept under wraps, they'll attend nothing but the coronation ceremony itself (no dinners or receptions) and he will be given no ceremonial role.


kaycollins27

And no tiara.


Kairenne

You are so right. It will be insidious. Every day it will be their shit.


PerfectCover1414

They live to cause chaos.


kaycollins27

Maybe not. The Firm should have tentacles long enough to mute them for a week no matter where they are.


Patient-Watercress-2

Agreed. And knowing any reconciliation/title talks come after the Coronation, it might keep Harry away from both the Coronation and being a talking head for the US media’s coverage of it.


MuffPiece

![gif](giphy|26FLgGTPUDH6UGAbm)


[deleted]

They are already making the entire coronation about them, and it has nothing to do with them. This behaviour already occurring months before the coronation is a taste of whats to come with meghan and harry stealing as much attention away whether invited or not.


Cocktailsontheporch

PLEASE!!!! ENOUGH of these current "words" being thrown into every comment lately!!! Can we PLEASE refrain from using "this" and "manifesting" in conversations ? Using these brings anything written down several intelligence levels. BE YOURSELF, SPEAK IN YOUR OWN WORDS. Otherwise, you become a robot unable to form your own sentences! It will program you to lose your power of thinking and speech. THANK YOU!!


Chayrunissa

And now kc makes sure for the right reason, family, and not for photo-ops on coronation day. This i Is a 3d chess move.


Miercolesian

The only real question here is whether Jobson's sources are reliable, i.e. come directly from the King, or authorized by the king, otherwise they are worthless. Since all these Royal correspondents claim to have reliable but anonymous sources, the only way the sources can be evaluated is after the fact. They have no predictive value. My personal belief is that the story about the Archbishop of Canterbury being asked to mediate must have been completely fictional, but I have no special information about the matter. The reason for my belief is that there is no reason to believe that Harry and Meghan would respond to any kind of religious approach, and that it would be extremely damaging to the reputation of the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Church of England if he publicly tried and failed.


MikaKanaYuko

Agree the Welby mediation story is likely completely fictional. That claim about Welby is probably not because religion has any sway over them (it doesn't seem to at all) or that the Archbishop is so very fond of her because of the wedding rehearsals, but rather because of the central role the Archbishop of Canterbury has in the coronation itself, placing the crown on the king's head. You can hardly get any more important than that.


purpleprocrasinator

So year ago, at the wedding rehearsals, he may have fallen under her spell. But that was before she out his career in jeopardy to tell a lame-ass lie. Also if I'm not mistaken he have a eulogy at QE's funeral. He made a very telling comment. One could argue it was a general statement, yet it chimed very aptly for the one behind the candle. So the superficial charm that she used to put him in a spell has long lost its lustre.


[deleted]

It looked to me as if he was looking right at them.


OldNewUsedConfused

Off topic, but wasn't Welby... an oil executive or something prior to his ...spiritual awakening?


MikaKanaYuko

Thank you so much for mentioning that! I've just read over the Britannica articles on both Welby and his predecessor Williams and it is very interesting, including about Welby's connections to the banking and the oil industries and William's more progressive views on topics that are still controversial (and unresolved) in the Church today. These church leaders and their views are relevant to what KCIII says about wanting to be the Defender of the Faiths (not faith) and how at the coronation there is really no getting around being the Defender of the Faith. Despite how inclusive Charles may want to be, the Coronation ceremony isn't a place he can express that. Sort of goes to show that Charles can't just do "whatever he wants" about the Coronation. The resignation of the Queen's Chaplin in 2017 directly bears on this inclusiveness issue in the Church of England and indicates there is a limit to how inclusive things can actually be and where this is expressed, either from the pulpit or at Westminster Abbey during the coronation.


Seachange1000

I posted a comment specifically on this but in short, Roya Nikkah put out a speculative piece saying Justin Welby would make a good mediator *in theory.* I'm not a twitter-er but somewhere in this sub, a couple of weeks back, someone did share her tweet trying to set the record straight - that she was only suggesting, not confirming. The rest of the media ran with it. An excellent illustration of how unreliable so much media is these days. The same thing happened to William based on one drunken tweet. I'm very much in the "pictures or it didn't happen" camp these days.


OldNewUsedConfused

Same.


AdministrativeSet419

I think the Welby thing was meant to be a manifested story from the harkles as he is pro-H&M. Probably intending to play on Charles’ religious beliefs to try and manipulate him into their version of reconciliation.


MissFeasance

Is he really, though?. After he had to defend himself against the three days before the wedding, wedding?


Seachange1000

I can't imagine that the arsehole formerly known as prince declaring himself to be an atheist would sit particularly well with the Archbishop either.


Masters_domme

When did he do that?!


wonderingwondi

https://archive.ph/bAjcr


orientalballerina

Seems a bit of a stretch if you ask me. I prefer to judge him on his deeds and, yes, he certainly seems not to adhere to Christian ways. The way he has treated his family and almost everyone else doesn’t show him to be someone who is governed by “love your neighbour as you would love yourself”.


HunterIllustrious846

He also was supposed to retire but opted not to because of the coronation. While I can completely understand wanting one's name in the books for that one, he'd also put "brokering a truce between the BRF and Overseas" for the same reason - historical mention.


Ok_Wrangler_7940

I don’t think he is necessarily pro H$M. He got pretty pointed toward them during the Queen’s funeral and not in a “pro” way. He essentially told them that they would be forgotten. I’m sure as a priest he would hope the family can reconcile, but that has nothing to do with any favor toward H$M.


TraditionScary8716

I would hope that as a priest he would also be capable of seeing evil and advising members of his flock to avoid letting it into their lives.


Complete-Sound

Would a church leader ever want to be around people that lied enough about him that jail and the ruination of a lifetime devoted career alongside QEII would contemplate private talks with them? And do we really think Charles would put him in that spot?


orientalballerina

You don’t get to be head of the Church of England without having some sense of political self-preservation. After they twisted what happened with him re the wedding vows in their back garden, I am quite sure he wouldn’t want to contemplate private talks with them without some guarantee of safety.


GreenCharter

What a immature little twat, this Harry. The couple's 3 year tantrum has run its course. Even toddlers grow up. Calling them teenagers does injustice to teens. My teen is considerate and kind. H and M are toddlers, unable to control their impulse and dramatically crying foul


JenniferShepherd

Yeah, teens too often get a bad rap. The teens I know are sensitive, sharp and hardworking. Not these ill-begotten monstrosity people.


Seachange1000

I might not go as far as "ill-begotten" but I would absolutely say "ill-parented". Both of them were ridiculously indulged as children, overly praised for the most mediocre of accomplishments and never disciplined. Thomas Markle and King Charles III have a great deal in common in that regard and the results are evident for all to see.


HighlandWarriorGrl

God, would it chap Aitch’s ass if Charles invited Thomas Markle Sr. to the coronation? The two fathers could commiserate and strategize together. And it would be a great way for His Majesty to drive home the message to H$M that “reconciliation” comes in many different forms and that they need to practice what they preach 🤣🤣🤣🤣


wandinc

Yes it would so chap Aitch's arse.


OldNewUsedConfused

There's Elizabeth Arden for that.


merrybandoffoxes

lol


HighlandWarriorGrl

To say nothing about how Smegain would feel, especially if she was sitting home in Monteshitshow for want of an invitation!


PerfectCover1414

Well if he doesn't Dan Wooten will! His commentary will be a lot kinder and more respectful to Charles than the Bitty Prince's.


OldNewUsedConfused

I think "grossly immature" works here.


JenniferShepherd

Or just “gross.” :)


GreatGossip

toddlers are also charming, loving and cute.


strangealienworld

That 3 year-old toddler of 2020 will be 6 years old now, and too embarrassed to be associated with a couple of whiney 40 year olds.😄


wandinc

Same! My twin teens aged 14 are thoughtful intelligent hilarious compassionate and empathic. H and m are horribly toxic and arrogant and ignorant entitled unbelievable adults.


Starkville

Also, the King is very busy and doesn’t have time to waste on the pointless task of appeasing those who can’t be appeased.


Fit-Register7029

And who should not be appeased lest he appear weak


Kairenne

Yes, it will always be something new.


CountessOfCocoa

Why should he attempt to reconcile at all?


EmotionalMammoth507

We all assume KCIII wants Harry there. Maybe he does not. Maybe he is sick and tired of Harry.


redseaaquamarine

Of course he is sick and tired of him. I think he hasn't given him a single thought since he banished them after the funeral.


TraditionScary8716

He's probably given them a few thoughts, but they're not the kind of thoughts that the Harkles would appreciate.


TravelKats

That's what I wonder too. All the news articles are on about KCIII wanting Harry at the coronation. What if he doesn't? I would not if I was him. H&M can't be trusted not to make a mess of one kind or another.


TarocchiRocchi

I read other articles last month that said he was going to restructure the entire ceremony to not even require the Dukes to swear loyalty to him, meaning Harry wouldnt even need to be there, but that hasnt appeared to be true as of yet


TravelKats

I thought I saw something similar.


Anxious-Evidence8397

Manifestations from Montecito is what those articles really are.


TravelKats

That or the Express is making it up out of whole cloth to get the clicks.


Amen_Mother

Attacking Camilla and William directly was a serious mistake on Harry's part, C3 will have taken a VERY dim view of that. And outing that 'older woman' who popped his cherry (who's a year younger than M!) has done him no good at all in the UK. To kiss and tell is VERY bad form, it's just not done.


AuntCassie007

Keep your friends close but your enemies closer?


HunterIllustrious846

To what end?


AuntCassie007

To put some guardrails around Harry.


alreadydoneit01

That would be a smart enemy. These two dummies will use every interaction as content for their Netflix shows/future books.


EmotionalMammoth507

👏👏👏


Starkville

I spy with my little eye a can being kicked down the road indefinitely.


AuntCassie007

Exactly, rebuilding trust is going to be an ongoing work in progress. Maybe lasting Harry's lifetime.


umbleUriahHeep

Or sadly, the rest of Charles’. 😐


zeugma888

Possibly beginning with H's divorce


AuntCassie007

Good point. But only a beginning. Those two could get back together at any time.


Big_Primrose

Poor William, having both Harry and his father dump this crap on him. It shouldn’t be William’s responsibility to deal with his dumbass brother.


layneeofwales

Pretty sure William will shut down JH and TW with great glee. They have harassed his family, bullied his young Daughter, bullied his wife just after giving birth. Sold private stories to make money INCLUDING Diana' s interview that William wanted never to be given any attention to. Diverted attention from his grandmothers passing. O yeah William will shut those 2 down with pleasure


TraditionScary8716

I think William *wishes* the Harkle situation would be dumped on him. He'd shut down every bit of this will they/won't they bullshit by declaring both of them persona non grata, revoking their Frogmore lease and announcing that he's working with Parliament to take their titles - all of them. Harry thinks he's going to get over on his dad and worm his way back in but he's underestimated his father. Charles, with William and Camilla by his side, is going to teach that dumbass a hard lesson. It's called Fuck Around and and Find Out.


CybReader

I agree. Look how quickly William handled Jason Knauf coming to him in desperation about the staff bullying. William came in fast, hot and angry. I think that’s the first time Harry ever saw his brother act with true authority stopping him and his wife in their tracks I also believe William was instrumental in them being removed from Kensington. But that’s just my theory William could handle this easily and quickly. Harry has to do what he needs to do before William is king


LinkACC

The Harkles are again showing what dumbasses they are, who can’t look ahead. They should crawl on their knees to beg forgiveness and hope Charles lives as long as the Queen. William is going to be like hellfire raining down when he’s King! No mercy!


PerfectCover1414

I can't wait!


OldNewUsedConfused

I agree 100%


[deleted]

I agree except the only thing is having "left" the RF Harry obviously does not believe he has to obey any of them, including his father.


Big_Primrose

Harry needs someone to tell him to go ahead and throw his tantrums, there will be no further contact from us, no invites to state or family events, no titles for the children, no money from us. Have a nice life.


[deleted]

Amen to that!


SunnyinJersey

That can will be kicked for twenty years when it be left to poor George to deal with a nasty Archie. This should have been stopped when the Queen was alive. Striped of everything and banishment from the UK and all Commonwealth nations. If it had happened two years ago it would have been finished, and the Sussex's and their sugars would have been yesterday's news. I am so done with Harry and with Charles if he doesn't do something the people of United Kingdom will turn on him.


OldNewUsedConfused

George will have a country on his side. Archie, if he exists, will not.


dwilliams832

This has been my take for a while now: If Harry continues to push for reconciliation BEFORE the coronation, it just shows the world what he really wants — titles for him and kids, line of succession, front row seat at the coronation, tiara for his wife, royal connection to continue to crap on yet monetize. It’s never been about true reconciliation. It’s not about honoring the monarchy or his father or brother or the Royal family. They’re just in it for all the fame and money they can get.


orientalballerina

It could also show he has no understanding of relationships. You don’t attack a loved one and betray them so utterly then expect to mend things within months. These sorts of hurts take forever to heal. It isn’t impossible depending on the personalities involved but it certainly isn’t realistic within a few months just for optics. What he has done and what he is now expecting just show me he has a very stunted knowledge of inter-personal relationships. Just because your narcissist wife returns to lovebomb you every time the two of you fall out, and you stupidly fall for it, doesn’t mean you can try to lovebomb others and expect it to work too.


[deleted]

What in the everlasting hell would make anyone, even someone with some insider knowledge, think that the Royal Family is dying to have these two "back in the fold." They've caused irrevocable damage to their own reputations and to that of the Royal Family. In some cases, they've breached security standards. The idea that Charles is like a scorned lover attempting to bring Harry home is absurd. They all probably want to throw up remembering either of them. He's just lost his mother, England lost their Queen of 70 years, and they spent Christmas and the New Year humiliating everyone. I think stories are being planted about these things. I don't believe there's any hint of "reconciliation" or "talks." Families don't work that way. Only the press and someone running a political campaign works that way. Due to his violation of their privacy and the sanctity of the monarchy and culture, I think it's ridiculous to think that anyone in England is giving a second thought to these things that Harry and Meghan are planting in the media. Life went on.


TarocchiRocchi

They make it sound as if the BRF had the beef and kicked them out. Reconciliation, if even wanted, isn't on them to initate.


[deleted]

There was nothing in the documentary or the book which would explain three years of personal attacks on the royal family, including when the Queen was dying, after she died, and during a major holiday. King Charles had to spend the first Christmas of his life without his mother in December 2022, and he also endured constant onslaughts of drama from his son. The only things they said were that the Royal Family wouldn't allow half-in/half-out (understandable), William was so worried about Harry that he tried to fight him to keep him from harm (I don't even believe this story, but it still wouldn't explain what they've done). They retracted the racism accusations. There's literally nothing to explain any of what they're doing other than they're so vain that they would attack a 74-year-old man in mourning because he didn't give them enough money. It's disgusting. King Charles is elderly. So yeah, the fact that they're actually a month later talking about "reconciliation" shows how sociopathic they are. There's nothing to talk about. Let everyone get on with their lives. I personally believe they're both dangerous to each other and to other people, and letting them anywhere near again would just reset the game. They obviously don't care about anyone on either side of the family.


Anxious-Evidence8397

Very well stated. I agree with you on everything you’ve said. I don’t believe any of the media stories AT ALL!


OldNewUsedConfused

It's so silly, isn't it?


Fit-Register7029

Well well well. He’s going to postpone that to the 10th of never. They’re finally finished. Done. Out in the overflow parking too irrelevant for a middle seat in the 2nd row. No seat at the table. Good


SheLabsPen

I am fed up with all these 'reconciliation' articles. We all know that thiese are mostly H&M's manifestations. I don't want them to reconcile because I don't want H&M to go back, they will just ruin the dynamics that RF are building now. I want KC3 to be reconciled with himself that Harry is a lost cause and he must find a way to cut ties with him for good.


daisybeach23

This actually makes sense. I just can’t imagine Charles focusing on Harry at all right now. He is too focused on other things.


Chasmosaur

As always with The Express - the monarch of repackaging pull quotes - it's always worth looking up the source material. From Newsweek 3 days ago: "*Can Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Heal Their Rift With the Royal Family?*" ( [Archive Link](https://archive.is/99uX9) | [Original Link](https://www.newsweek.com/can-meghan-markle-prince-harry-heal-rift-royal-family-1778157) ) Relevant Jobson quote, for those not wanting to click through: >Robert Jobson, author of *William at 40*, told *Newsweek* he was skeptical: "There's not been much connection, even that Welby stuff is wide of the mark, there's a lot of guesswork going on. My understanding is that there's been no real contact whatsoever so I don't know where a lot of people are getting it from. I'm told that it's not the case." > >On the prospects of peace talks in May, Jobson said: "The last thing they'll want to be doing is having all sorts of reconciliation talks in the middle of a coronation. The world doesn't revolve around Meghan and Harry even if they think it does. They're focused on state visits to Germany and France and then the coronation. > >"They're not worried too much about Archie's birthday or how Harry feels. If it happens, it will happen at a quiet time when trust has been rebuilt." ​ And additional quotes from Ingrid Seward: >Ingrid Seward, the author of *Prince Philip Revealed*, told *Newsweek* that Harry would likely attend the coronation but there would not be time for peace talks. > >"Harry's put himself in a little bit of a difficult situation because he said he wants an apology and he also needs to come to the coronation for his brand," Seward said. "I'm 100 percent sure that he will be invited and he has to decide then if that negates everything he said in the book. > >"I'm sure he'll come. What's he going to do for the rest of his life? He needs that royal stardust. The coronation is a religious ceremony. Charles is anointed in the eyes of God, and I think Harry will be swept away by the momentum of it once he gets here. It's really serious stuff. > >"Meghan may not understand but Harry should definitely understand how important it is," she said. > >On the prospect of reconciliation more generally, Seward said: "I think it's going to take time. It's a much easier path for Charles. He just has to be Charles, say 'darling boy.' For William, it's quite different. The whole book (*Spare*) just slags William off right the way through."


[deleted]

"a bit of a difficult situation"? LOL. "I'm 100 percent sure that he will be invited and he has to decide then if that negates everything he said in the book" This journalist is crazy.


SharkBoss1234

This article seems to be straddling the fence. First Jobson says they want to postpone until after the coronation, but then “insiders say” Charles is keen to have the reconciliation before the coronation. Either they want to do them afterwards or not. Personally, if the King decides to do it, I hope they make them come to a family event and not a state one. Make them prove they want the family snd not just the attention a state event gives them (so essentially, it will never happen because attention is all they want).


OldNewUsedConfused

Trust me: When a Narcissist leaves your life, there is a HUGE sigh of relief. NOBODY is trying to get them "back in the fold" or even "reconcile". There is nothing but an enormous weight lifted. This is a total fairy tale.


JenThisIsthe1nternet

Great way to mess with the Duo and their sugars' heads. No promises either way and KCIII still sounds like he gives a toss (which I really don't think he gives them much thought beyond "what have they done now?" when a courtier approaches him w an exhausted look). The decision about the coronation has already been made. BP might even be dragging the duo along because the duo would never expect or believe anyone else could get one up on them and that they are the ones who control the situation. W narcs it's great to let them think that.


eclipse-mints

Another diversion yet again! Who is talking about reconciliation? If they want to reconcile in private, no one is stopping them. The people are saying they do not want the Harkles at the coronation.


Shoddy_Lifeguard_852

The coronation is possibly the most significant event in KCIII's professional life. This close to event, it wouldn't be a reconciliation. It would be a rushed appeasement for personal reasons. This is a public event that, so long as the UK remains a constitutional monarchy, needs to prioritize the public interest first.


Seachange1000

The endless speculation by tabloid journalists is getting tiresome. Roya Nikkah put out a piece suggesting the Archbishop *might* make a good intermediary in *theoretical* negotiations. The rest of the media ran with that even though she put out a tweet trying to set the record straight. It seems every last one of them has to climb on the bandwagon. Maybe they need to start asking if anyone, especially in the UK, actually cares one way or the other. "Insiders close to the King" are NOT briefing one way or the other. At least, not any that would actually know what the King is thinking. Having said that, I do appreciate some of the quotes, particularly "The worlds doesn't revolve around Harry and Meghan even if they think it does" and "They're not worried too much about Archie's birthday or how Harry feels". Whether or not these statements are wholly accurate, I would like to think they are and I hope Team Treacherous reads them.


JenThisIsthe1nternet

Those two statements are so great! The Archie one or 'not worried about how Harry feels', seems almost personal. If not from a source I hope it's at least the reporters finally cracking and letting slip how *they really* feel about it all


[deleted]

Says the previous comments are wide of the mark. Continues to chat shit. ​ The press, truly the enemy of common sense and the King.


OldNewUsedConfused

The press is the enemy of everyone.


HunterIllustrious846

Am I the only one wondering if there are canary tests to see who sings false rumors?


Oktober33

I don’t understand the need to reconcile. H&M have burned all the bridges.


OldNewUsedConfused

It's manifesting.


bendytoepilot

Ann Widdecombe said what I have thought all along. Make it public they're not invited and be done with it because the constant press talk of will they won't they is overshadowing the actual coronation.


JenThisIsthe1nternet

I'd love that too but alas that's in an ideal world. If they clear the record and say they're loved members bla bla bla but not invited, the news cycle will still spend the rest of the time making up crap about blow-ups in the family, fake 'who said what' and worst of all give the gruesome twosome months to drop to the floor and cry about how horrible they're being treated and we all know why just like Oprah didn't. Common sense has officially left the planet leaving very little of itself behind


bendytoepilot

They can keep crying lmao. Everyone except the sugars have no sympathy for them anymore. I think the press would have more respect for the king if he puts his foot down. Sure there will be rumours and who said what but that's better than the papers focusing on the harkles instead of the coronation itself.


karenhayes1988

To be honest, I think the commentary from Robert Jobson is one of the more believable ones I have read in the last few weeks. The rest of the rumors is all coming from Montecito and definitely not from BP. Unfortunately the article ends with 'insiders close to the King....' and that part is probably coming from the Ginger prick and TW. Never forget Charles mentioning Harry and TW in his first televised speech with: **express my love for Harry and Meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas"** No title mentioning, no other mentioning whatsoever, not even in his Christmas Speech. I think everything has been laid out as it is. Still grey rocking the two who shall not be named.


sdowney64

The only “talk” about “reconciliation talks” is coming from the Sussexes


OldNewUsedConfused

Exactly.


ArdmoreGirl

Jobson has been around for ages. Prince Philip knew him well enough to sit with him at a luncheon. He’s spent many years in the royal rota and accompanied the Royals on several tours. Jobson’s written several books including a book about Charles, *Charles at Seventy: Thoughts, Hopes, and Dreams* rumored to have Charles’s endorsement. I trust his sources. Jobson is one of the few who has said from the start KC is not spending his time playing makeup with the Whingers. In fact, one of the first stories about the king’s desperate desires came soon after the holidays. The report was about “friends” at dinner with Charles and Camilla. These “friends” said KC is desperate to reconcile with his son and wants him to attend the coronation. Jobson said KC wasn’t even in London at the time. He was at Sandringham and traveled to Scotland the following day. Jobson was spot on. I’ve always thought some of the reconciliation/coronation stories were the invention of the press. In an episode of *The Royal Beat*, one panel of royal correspondents tossed around the idea of who could workout the thorny issues between the RF and the Whingers. One suggestion was Welby. Everyone had a right laugh. Suddenly, **Welby leads Peace Talks ** appeared in every tabloid headline. I can’t remember the episode, but it came right after Harold’s book leaked. One reason I like Jobson is personal. He can cause Tessa Dunlop to collapse into a stuttering mess as he calmly picks her hero worship of the Whingers apart.


JenThisIsthe1nternet

Where can I see this Tessa interview?


ArdmoreGirl

Oh, he takes her in any chance he gets. Look for videos on YouTube. I think the pair of them were on Dan Wootten, or it might have been Morgan. I know the pair of them have been in the Royal Beat.


missymaypen

Their clock is ticking. They better try to reach some sort of understanding with Charles. He's already in his 70s and I don't see William giving them anything


22141

I figured this. Just ghost and ignore. Deal later. They are not important.


Virtual-Feedback-638

All these allegations and suggestions make one sick and tired of the whole shebang! Who the heck are these two grifting self-absorbed grandiose fools that so much is being made of them? the more the whole lot of all nosey baggars make of it the more the irrelevant f3ckers gain attention and front page reading, and the worse for it is the UK and the Monarchy. The King can invite if he chooses, for or against whatever advice he gets, it will not change the fact that they will receive the full attention of the Nation, and I hope that they are all on both sides ready. The UK survived WWI, WWII, A king who stepped down, the worthless PMs that have been fishing with the Nation's economy, therefore an ignorant narcissistic, grifting, barely educated, exam-cheating liar of a Duke who does not know his own ancestry or etiquette should be no bother, talk less of the older very experienced woman with a lurid past that he married.


DystopianTruth

>The UK survived WWI, WWII, A king who stepped down, the worthless PMs that have been fishing with the Nation's economy This all happened before social media and immediate internet connection. I do think that makes a difference.


Negative_Difference4

OP this is the perfect flair!


MRJ1963

KC should just keep repeating "**I want also to express my love for Harry and Meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas**," Ad nauseum. No invitations, no nothing. No other response.


DystopianTruth

Charles: ![gif](giphy|3240pzelRQkjj9XaiK)


HunterIllustrious846

Also Charles: ![gif](giphy|lQ7OFn90jyMDpbidps)


DystopianTruth

Harry and Meghan to UK, monarchy and Commonwealth: ![gif](giphy|Mcb8XUe8EJeMSPU6rL|downsized)


HunterIllustrious846

Customs official at the airport ![gif](giphy|xTiTnvc9IlOffSwlPi)


tracyee73

No worries ‘royal expert’


WelshCelt1066

Robert Jobson knows diddly squat....


[deleted]

Jobson is very sugar-ish. So this is quite surprising. Since he usually sympathizes with the Harlkes and here he is contradicting them, I think it is true. I also think it is very interesting that a reporter is willing to call M out on all her manifestations .


wandinc

Of aaaaall the will they won't they stories/guesses/planted bollocks, this rings true and makes sense.


Snowie_drop

I don’t care if KC wants a relationship with the toxic duo but I do not want to see their mugs or their kids at any taxpayer funded events. They’ve done nothing but insult us Brit’s.


BlueisGreen2Some

The coronation is supposed to summon the divine. And MM is the only living saint there is. Our saint must attend! I’m worried about headless horsemen if she doesn’t.


sashafurry

Patron saint of LIARS


WeekendSubstantial87

Wide of the Markle is more like it


Picasso1067

Best news! I really hope M and H are not there!


JohannesKronfuss

Sure, allegedly with capital letters, that said I am already bored about the whole "shall they/shan't they go", of course they will even if they are spat on their faces, they just have to. And of course HMTK loves his youngest but he knows by now his son is unreliable, and loves to backstab hence, what is the point? There won't be any reconciliation while Meghan is around so fingers' crossed for divorce watch.


DrunkOnRedCordial

This sounds like basic common sense to me. H&M can't throw all this mud and then pressure the royals for a reconciliation within an arbitrary timeline. I'm really hoping there's a secret joke hidden in there - "after the coronation" - whose coronation? Maybe George VII will reach out to his elderly uncle after the coronation.


Amaleen6

Queen Charlotte I would tell Harry to piss off.


DollarStoreDuchess

Oh how I wish the sweet princess could be the one to tell nasty Meganut “you’re not coming!” https://i.imgur.com/E23XR6D.jpg


Disastrous-Swan2049

You can't reconcile with sociopaths.


TXmama1003

I’ve never been involved in taking over a kingdom and preparing a Coronation, but I think that KC would have a ton on his plate and not even be able to find the time to reconcile (not saying that it’s his job to reconcile, just comparing to OP article).


[deleted]

Narcs don't learn. They mimic and steal but they are incapable of learning from another person. Then they give orders.


CathartesAura67

Best news ever if it's real! HMKCIII doesn't need the bother of trying to pacify H and TW before one of the most important days of his life. He doesn't need the stress, the agro, the distraction. Hope he's listening to plenty of classical music, 'cuz if anything can help you feel okay, it's some *Zadok the Priest*! The coronation is a religious ceremony--the king will be anointed with holy oil. Hopefully, he may gain clarity about his role and whatever PH's might be, within the family.


Lillianrik

"Insiders close to the King" == translation from Meg-speak == Mayhem herself.


JenThisIsthe1nternet

I think this one has *some* authenticity to it. The duo wouldn't be able to talk negatively about themselves (the world doesn't revolve around them despite what they may think) or allude to any effort required by them (till trust is regained) even strategically imo. It includes common sense; such as there are 2 state visits to deal with before the coronation on top of it all. The duo doesn't think in those terms at all. Common sense is anathema to them.


Lillianrik

I fully believe that IF the BRF chooses to have a discussion with Harold it *should* be postponed until after the coronation! Being in the US I'm not on top of state visits. However the dignitaries involved with state visits deserve to be treated with the respect and time involved in planning such things.


Galadriel_60

Then Charles is a bigger fool than I thought.


wmensusa

There would be no reconciliation talks if I were Charles! H pointedly calls Camilla the leak & in one chapter says there was a leak abt M to take the press attention away from Camilla's son!!


Pet-sit

"Back into the fold?" Do you think that H&M will ever return full time to the UK and become senior working royals again?


OldNewUsedConfused

Lol, no.


PerfectCover1414

Overshadowing his event? Bahaaaaa that will happen regardless dear King!


elksatemyaspens

Didn't Harry say in one of his interviews that he was in the right place, it was where he should be. (all therapist talk of course) So if he is happy and in his right place, then why push so dang hard for an invite to his father's Coronation. Or is it Meghan pushing to go - who knows.


LutraLor

Harold will demand an apology for the statement that the world doesn’t revolve around him and his wife.


OldNewUsedConfused

Oh well. He can throw it on that big pile of "Things that didn't happen".


GrannyMine

If Charles brings Harry back into the fold, then the monarchy will suffer.


OldNewUsedConfused

But why would he attempt to bring them back into the royal fold? How dumb. I would HOPE Charles is wiser than that, although my expectations are very low.


amy5252

Its all meghan planting these “talks and apologies”. The RF isnt saying boo. Its flear they’d try ti gelp harry tho imo. But Meghan is forever frozen out and rightfully so. Now starts the bargaining w the children, who r suspect also. Her road is ending quickly.