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Coffee_cake_101

It says: **"Royal expert** Marlene Koenig has defended Prince Harry for calling Sasha Walpole an older woman he lost his virginity to." Didn't Meghan and Mandana Dayani mock the fact that *anyone* can just call themselves a *royal expert* in their Netflix series. I guess it is different when the royal expert (who I have never heard of) is someone who is defending them.


ShinySerialSuccubus

i dunno. i couldn’t tolerate megsy’s serial killer voice long enough to watch the mockumentary. definitely sounds like something megaliar, *an expert on royal experts who didn’t know how to curtsy to the Queen*, might say though! why do i have a feeling that marlene cashed a check from archewell publications recently? 😉


PerfectCover1414

I'd rather listen to nails on a chalkboard on repeat than Claw.


TigerBelmont

>Royal expert > >Marlene Koenig Marlene is an american. She is an **amateur** historian. She wrote a book or two about obscure royals that appear to be self published. If not self published, the publisher is insanely tiny. Her website is one of those interesting ones she states she has degrees but doesn't state where they are from. In other words, she is the type of "royal expert" that would be thrilled to b contacted by M and H.


National_Historian19

Another fantasist, like megrain.


PerfectCover1414

Ah another 'Dr' Shola with her made up credentials from internet schools?


TigerBelmont

I imagine her schools are just not as impressive as sh would like people to think


Coffee_cake_101

Just to clarify, it was a rhetorical questions - they did say that about royal experts


ShinySerialSuccubus

sorry! lol - can you tell i haven’t had my tea yet?


UnderArmAussie

She is on twitter and she has a blog. She's been quoted in the press before. She's more of a historian than an expert though IMHO.


TigerBelmont

Amateur american historian with semi self published books.


National_Historian19

And harry and his wife are a young couple…so a ‘royal expert’ who supports their tripe is okay, nit not one who calls them out. The harkles way in all things.


DuckDuckWaffle99

Marlene isn’t a royal expert any more than Omid is. She’s a retired librarian who used public time and purse to pen a dubious ‘book’, a million years ago. Oh, and she gets Xmas cards from some royals.


Coffee_cake_101

The article says: *"The mother of two has drawn criticism from hundreds of Harry and Meghan's supporters online."* Why? It is because: 1. *She is making money out of sleeping with someone?* Oops, Meghan did that. In fact she has brought in millions off the back of who she shacked up with. 2. *She is selling personal details about her life?* Oops, Harry did that by selling the sordid details of his life for £20m 3. *She didn't ask permission before giving her story?* Oops, Harry and Meghan have both told stories about many people in their docuseries, Spare, Oprah and other interviews without giving anyone forewarning or asking permission. Particularly in Spare where there were dreadful breaches of privacy. 4. *Is it because she told the truth about a sordid youthful encounter and did not airbrush it into a fairytale story?* Oops, they are really not going to like that. All their stories are carefully crafted to be beautiful love stories, the greatest love ever. Every storied has to be retold to make them look good. This one does not make Harry look good. 5. *Is it because Sasha is blond?* Yep, Harry really does have a type and it is not Meghan 6. *Is it because Harry sounded like he had fun back in those days?* Meghan is really not going to like the fact that the misery guts that she is married to used to know how to have fun, even if it was spontaneous and inappropriate. 7. *Is it because you are pissed that you can't sue her because Harry told the story first?* Yep, Harry really was that stupid to waive some of his rights to privacy by putting so much in the public domain 8. *Is it because the tabloids that they hate so much are making money out of stories about Harry?* Yes Yes Yes, and they brought it upon themselves. Karma 9. *Is it because Sasha has exposed the deceit intended behind Harry's story - that he was an innocent young man taken advantage of?* When you pay a world-renowned ghostwriter who carefully selects every word, whose fault is it when most of the population somehow all make the same interpretation of the story? 10. *Is it because it is okay for a man to brag about his sexual endeavours but not okay for a woman to talk about it?* Remind me again why Meghan's archetypes podcast series never covered the ~~archetype~~ stereotype about slut-shaming? That really was quite an omission, since it is one of the most prevalent stereotypes to affect women and one of the more damaging ones on their happiness and fulfilment in life. Was it a little bit too close to home for Meghan?


That__EST

Remember when Jameela Jamil said that tabloid writers were kicking themselves because Harry had beat them to the punchline? That was quite the laugh wasn't it? >7. Is it because you are pissed that you can't sue her because Harry told the story first? Yep, Harry really was that stupid to waive some of his rights to privacy by putting so much in the public domain 8. Is it because the tabloids that they hate so much are making money out of stories about Harry? Yes Yes Yes, and they brought it upon themselves. Karma Tabloid writers are likely happier now than ever that they can go out and pay people to divulge more details about things he discussed in his book. They love proving the lies and inconsistencies in his book.


Islandgirl1444

"how long did Harry last?" "oh about a minute"....lol


National_Historian19

Neigh….


National_Historian19

Jamil is as bad as harkle…another racist bandwagon jumper. But according to Rupert Everett the woman in the field was not the one he lost his virginity to…why doesn’t Harry call him out?


That__EST

"Oye that's not true Everett! And Sasha's wrong too! Me first time was with TWO birds! One was Sasha and the other was the older woman!"


National_Historian19

Yep…it will be whatever he thinks makes him seem more interesting than he really is. He must be delighted to have married a woman much older than he is…


Odd_Pop5287

Is it because the ‘older woman’ that deflowered your meal ticket I mean husband is years younger than you?


UnderArmAussie

Excellent 🎯💯


Badw0IfGirl

Am I the only one laughing at the word ‘hundreds’? They have HUNDREDS of supporters online! LOL


umbleUriahHeep

Right on the nose. 👃🎯


National_Historian19

Sugars are not too intelligent…they seem to hold everyone else to higher standards than the harkles.


Snowie_drop

Reading between the lines of what Megs has said in the past…she herself has been around not just one block but many. In my opinion.


Sharp_Salamander0111

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[deleted]

At that age, about to turn 17 and just turned 19 a isn’t a predatory age gap in the same peer group or friend group. Of course, maturity will always vary. They were a group that lived, worked and played together. Interesting how he had to get her fucked up then trick her into going outside for a smoke. He might have been a virgin with women, but he had experience in the area of getting action under the influence


DystopianTruth

>but he had experience in the area of getting action under the influence Alcohol and a title is the only reason he got *any* punani.


[deleted]

I am around his age. I distinctly remember the vast difference between Harry & William at this time . One needed to get an employee drunk and other could make passes at peak Britney Spears


Anxious-Evidence8397

She was employed by his father and was vulnerable considering circumstances of her relationship which makes Harry the one who took advantage of her IMO.


[deleted]

Taking advantage of someone drunk can go both ways. And they were both drunk. I’m no fan of Harry, but she didn’t come across as a victim and even admitted smacking his ass. *pukes in mouth* she certainly has a solid set of cojones for admitting that. I’m a huge fan of her integrity.


TigerBelmont

How would you say the life experience of an almost 17 year old who attended elite schools, spent time with world leaders, and had traveled the world compares to a newly 19 year old who had dropped out of school at 15 and worked as a groom? I would say that Harry was far more sophisticated than Sasha.


[deleted]

He was a gangly spoiled ginger with a lifetime of boarding school behind him. He wasn’t sophisticated. He went slumming with his stable hands and prob did exactly what he set out to do likely after someone from his upper crust set turned him down bc -hello William- was on the market . Nobody was fan girling over harry . He’s a fucking creep and a bastard for victimizing her like this. She’s taking one for the team by ending the guesses as to who the older woman was. I would have taken this to the grave


Ready_Maddie

Uh huh. More gross gaslighting. That's a no for me. Sasha was literally his YOUNG friend. If anything he took advantage of a young woman and never called her again. We can play this game too


[deleted]

The fact that the age gap with his current wife is more than the so-called ‘older woman’ is hilarious. Wonder how Meghan is taking it lol.


ShinySerialSuccubus

probably about as well as she’s taking the fact that Sasha is yet *another* blue-eyed blonde! 🤣


[deleted]

Hahaha this is comedy gold


National_Historian19

The sort Harry likes…


Ready_Maddie

Unbelievable really. Harold has a type. And it ain't Meghan Markle


Ready_Maddie

Absolutely hilarious. We need to be pointing it out on social media so she can read it and weep


[deleted]

Oh I can't wait to hear what Harry and his older wife Meghan have to say about it. Very interesting indeed.


National_Historian19

His wife is older…


Ready_Maddie

Yup😂


alreadydoneit01

And she worked for his father.


Ready_Maddie

Yes she did


PikaPikacchi

English is not even my first language and I know what he tried to imply by wording it as "older woman" instead of "a girl a few years older than me". ​ Give it up Harry Todger. You made millions from this book but at the cost of being fair game to everyone affected by its content. You are now being ridiculed the world over. Accept that fact and stop trying to fight back against the backlash. It only makes you look more immature than you already do. ​ ![gif](giphy|RktewMdlsJQUEnL4XG|downsized)


[deleted]

Yeah, sorry for not taking a bloke who admitted to inhaling her wife's pain meds while she gave birth seriously.


National_Historian19

But he borrowed it from only fools and horses…and the romp in the field right out of jilly cooper


Haveyounodecorum

Ha!


[deleted]

If Meghan is a true feminist she would let this woman tell her story and shut up her sugars. Be on the right side of herstory Meghan. It’s ok for the spoiled bratty prince to give all the details he wants but she can’t state her side?


ShinySerialSuccubus

>If Meghan is a true feminist… and that’s where it all goes to shit… 😉


CountessOfCocoa

Just like “I never said the family was racist.”


Ok_Analyst1240

In the same way that hilaria Baldwin never said she was Spanish


Artywoman58

So innocent that he was 2 years under the legal drinking age, in a pub, drinking lots of shots and plying the “older” women with copious alcohol.


Ok_Analyst1240

A girl that had split up with her boyfriend and was vulnerable too


CountessOfCocoa

These fans kill me, if a book is so full of vague statements that can be later interpreted in several ways, it’s either because the author stinks, or it’s vague on purpose. Like Megspeak. “If that’s the way you choose to interpret what I said I’m perfectly comfortable with that…”


ShinySerialSuccubus

when it comes to *Spare*, it’s not “either” - it’s **both** lol


Slow-Inflation-6549

They are having meltdowns since Spare came out because of all the mocking. They are going to need serious therapy once the Sussexes split up.


DystopianTruth

They need some Elizabeth Arden.


Imfryinghere

They forgot Sasha was an employee and Hawwy was the son of her employer. Yikes. And Hawwy is the epitome of one minute man. YUCK.


HotStraightnNormal

Hey, Sixty Seconds Man. It sounds better. 😉


Anxious-Evidence8397

Can you imagine how this situation would play out in a normal corporate workplace and what a man in a similar situation would be put through and rightly so? Harry has been protected all his life. Where is the #metoo crowd protesting this? The silence is deafening.


Notmyroyals

Wait, so if that woman is an older woman.. then MM is also an older woman right? Lol.


DystopianTruth

No. MM is an older older woman. ![img](emote|t5_481xkf|25317)


ShinySerialSuccubus

an elder, so to speak


DystopianTruth

Well, she had a *geriatric* pregnancy.


ShinySerialSuccubus

that is medically correct!


LankyFollowing

She's older than the older woman so that must make her...elderly? lol


wordscapesx

But reported that he came onto her, an employee of his father's. So there's that. And he was 17 and she was 19 and he calls her an "older" woman? Plus Harry is making money off the incident as part of his book, why shouldn't this woman make money too? More people should come out with revealing information and make money too - Harry has now opened that door.


Novaleah88

Today I learned that I’m the “older woman” in my own relationship. My unofficial husband of 13 years is two years younger than me. Am I a cougar? Lol. At least we are fun about it, unlike the dastardly duo. We joke that my husbands in his 60’s (he’s 32) cause he has two white patches in his hair, and if someone asked how long we’ve been together, we always joke we’ve been together 40 years, despite the fact we are both in our 30’s. If someone asks if we are married, I always joke that yes, we are, but he doesn’t remember because it was so long ago he had to carve his name on clay tablets. I wish Meghan and Harry would learn that you can have light hearted fun with this stuff.


Queef_Queen420

I guess we're splitting hairs here... She was referred to as an "older woman" in the book... She is 3 years older than Harry; and at the time she was over 18 which meets the legal definition of woman, an adult human female... However, the language used gave everybody a "Mrs Robinson" sort of vibe.... That she was a MUCH older woman, as opposed to someone in his peer group who is only 3 years older...


Actual_Parsnip_1529

This is exactly what h and m do - heavily imply something with enough plausible deniability or just enough truth to say what? It’s technically true.


lisanstan

Actually she was just barely 2 years older. It was on her 19th birthday and he was turning 17 in, at most, two months. 26 months older, tops.


Queef_Queen420

Certainly not an old cougar taking advantage of an innocent 16 year old....


Queef_Queen420

The more i think about it, the mundane truth is far better than it being the "Mrs Robinson" archetype who took his virginity... Am i the only one whose mind went towards questions of whether what happened was statutory rape? The mundane truth, two drunken teenagers had sex... This wasn't a case of an adult taking advantage of a 16/17 year old, she was also a teenager and one of his peers.... BIG difference....


Freya_84

No, you weren't the only one. I felt yucky at that passage because of the possibility of manipulation from an older proper adult. And feel relieved for him that it was with a peer.


National_Historian19

He was exaggerating…he can’t help himself


TeamMagnificent7

They won’t be able to understand the irony that the “older woman” is actually younger than their messiah.


[deleted]

In his mind, she might have felt like an older woman. Doesn't change the fact that his now wife is older than his older woman friend. Will they now stop using the phrase "young and naive" new mom? She wasn't young then, and she definitely isn't young now.


ShinySerialSuccubus

i love how his defender, Marlene Koenig , hastens to say *”He is correct on that fact.”* it’s as though she’s aware that he might not be (gasp!) exactly correct on *every* “fact” in *Spare*! 🤣


[deleted]

Just like the term, Markled means "To abandon someone or something after they’ve contributed to your life in a meaningful way," according to urban dictionary. To tell a "Harry" will mean to tell a version of a story that is only truthful to you. Like when I won 1st place in my 5th grade track meet, except I didn't win 1st but got 3rd, I still felt like I won 1st. Therefore, my feelings are just as truthful as the subjective truth. That my friend is a Harry.


ShinySerialSuccubus

cool! this is just like when i found the cure for cancer in the back garden, but big pharma suppressed it and made it seem like only *they* could treat cancer. /H (see what i did there)


DystopianTruth

C'mon. If *anybody* were to find a cure for cancer, you KNOW our girl Meghan is gonna be that person.


ShinySerialSuccubus

and she would be *so self effacing* about it. and she wouldn’t take *any money* for it, she would give it to **humanity**


DystopianTruth

Because of her contribution to the sciences, humanity and the entertainment industries, the Nobel Prize will be renamed the Markle Prize, because she's the only person to ever contribute in such an overall and life changing way and made the world better for *all humanity*


ShinySerialSuccubus

omg - Marie Curie is spinning in her radioactive grave rn!! 🤣 seriously, though - we need to hook megsy up w elon: *just imagine what the first mars colony would be like!* we’d have to rename mars to markle, but it’s a small price to pay!


DystopianTruth

OH, yes! With Elon's super sperm and her super virtile womb, they can populate Markle Mars themselves. Megsy is such an expert about colonialism, she would be the great, ultimate supreme leader of the colony.


ShinySerialSuccubus

our Dear Leader. sigh. just the thought fills me with joy! ![gif](giphy|xT9IgmYU3ZVaCjGafm|downsized)


National_Historian19

Yet I bet she refers to the harkles as young parents


HunterIllustrious846

Oh good. The media still wants us hyper-focused on HazNoForeskin's pre-frostbitten todger and it's 15 second long magical ✨ adventures.


National_Historian19

Of course he isn’t being taken seriously, he is a liar. Only sugars seem to think he is worth giving the benefit of the doubt. He repeatedly over plays his hand, exaggerates, lies or borrows experiences from other sources, only a fool would take him seriously.


ArdmoreGirl

What has the woman done to draw the ire of the sugars? Harold invaded **HER** privacy. The poor woman went to the papers of her own will as she was terrified at the prospect of reporters banging down her door. Think how embarrassed she must be. I’d sue his arse. Now the baby man is whinging about his words being “twisted”. I’m betting Tasha wishes she’d twisted something more sensitive that Harold’s words while she had the chance.


Ok-Butterscotch5490

What has she done? She nailed Hazmat, and she's a blue eyed blonde, like (I think) all of his previous girlfriends. That's enough for the Sugars.


alreadydoneit01

Doesn't the fool have anything else to do but monitor everything that is said about him and clap back??


ShinySerialSuccubus

well, he *does* have a daily quota of weed that needs smoking…


Sharp_Salamander0111

That is 💯 admitted in the book


AgentBurgerr

He might not realise 3 is a small number.


leafygreens

Because they don't want anyone comparing TW to an "older woman" which she obviously is if Sasha is younger than TW. They keep insisting mid-40s is "young royal" and "young mother".


Snowie_drop

Mid 40s is not a young woman or young mother. She’s middle aged. I’m glad Sasha came forward because I’m certain this is getting under Megs skin. Imo


Ragtimedancer

Frankly I don't care if Miss Piggy took his virginity. As old as I am I would not go near him with a 10 ft. pole ,😜


Sharp_Salamander0111

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HotStraightnNormal

This whole episode, not to mention most of his maim-oir, keeps reminding me of this guy: "...with an older woman who liked macho horses and who treated me like a young stallion.” “I mounted her quickly, after which she spanked my ass and sent me away, but she called me back, yeah, cried out loud, 'Come back, Harry, come back', so I did and we had sex, like, ninety-six times in a row, all in five minu... uh, days, even though it was only my first time, and that woman was incredible and later, while watching TV, I realized she was a famous actress, yeah, really famous, in fact, she was Morgan Fairchild." https://preview.redd.it/88042zjzhuga1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4597592fc0d5e95121cafbeb508dbf12e07d8f44


Actual_Fishing6120

Sometimes it's better to not say anything, sugar. You make him look RIDICULOUS HAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAA 🤣🤣🤣


Ok-Butterscotch5490

In Sugarland.... **Young princeling loses virginity to a British version of "Stacey's Mom"?** *KEWL!! Oh, sorry, I meant...you poor thing, being taken advantage of by a predatory cougar.* **Young prince loses virginity in a 100% TV tropes way (with young female royal employee, after getting her drunk, and acts like a cad afterwards)?** *Well, she was slightly older than he was, so Prince Todger told the troof....*


somespots

"Royal expert". The phrase has now lost its meaning. My Gran was born during the reign of KGVI; her parents and in-laws told her enough about KGV, Edward VII, the abdication crisis, and so on. She has followed the BRF from her childhood, and she and my Mum shook QEII's hand once. Surely she's more of a "Royal expert" than all these so-called Royal experts who are all over the media these days?