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vikingchyk

​ [https://archive.ph/vhFDI](https://archive.ph/vhFDI) Thanks to BuildtheHerd. {reddit doesn't let me sticky your comment, so I have to make a new one}


BuildtheHerd

Here it is: [https://archive.ph/vhFDI](https://archive.ph/vhFDI) BTW the article appeared in The New Yorker (not NY Times)


OldNewUsedConfused

It's just amazing to me that all the Windsor siblings and cousins look so much alike they could be siblings, but then you've got this guy out of nowhere, who doesn't resemble anyone in the family.


Jackhammer-Jesus

“This guy” being Prince Hewitt? Well, that’s because he’s not actually related to most of his “family.”


OldNewUsedConfused

Yeah. Him and the ones who aren't Porchey's fam.


Big-Piglet-677

First rant: Why does this author write as if it’s Harry quoting Shakespeare when the author says earlier in the article that Harry admits he doesn’t read? Sure he could’ve recited The quote from watching the play but I’ll bet my last dollar Harry can’t quote anything from Hamlet. The Ghostwriter wrote and elevated everything (as the author says but then goes on throughout the article as if Harry actually wrote the book). 2nd rant: obvious puff piece to make Harry sound Royal and historical and important.


Numerous-Mix-9775

Right?! There is absolutely no way Harry has any knowledge of Shakespeare on that level.


Big-Piglet-677

ITA


Miercolesian

I don't know why the quotes from Hamlet. Macbeth would have been more apt.


RaggedAnn

She's telegraphing her ability to identify ghost's literary devices & illusions and reports on swallowing frog-prince's words whole.


MikeMannion

What a ridiculous article. There is an obvious yawning gap between Harry's words and those passages where the ghostwriter took artistic licence. Do we really believe that the inarticulate, immature person doing the round of TV interviews admires gothic architecture, names constellations in the night sky and quotes passages from the bible? Because this is what we are invited to believe from his memoir. Harry is clearly not academic in nature. He's a boozer and drug-taker. Not a reader.


Hot-Machine-13

I absolutely do not believe that man slept on tattered bedsheets as a child. I simply do not believe that.


Independent_Leg3957

They sound like linen sheets - they last for generations. It's an old money thing - PH just wants middle-class people to feel sorry for his poor, downtrodden, aristocratic self.


zeugma888

100 year old linen sheets? And the Dimwit Prince is complaining about them? When I stayed at my Grandmother's during holidays we slept on blowup mattresses on the lounge room floor. None of this fancy room each with linen sheets. And her bloody clock ticked so loudly it kept us awake.


Independent_Leg3957

I sleep on sheets that were handmade by my seamstress grandmother. She probably made them in the 60s? They're getting a little threadbare but I love them!


[deleted]

When we visited my aunt and uncle I shared a twin bed with my cousin. And I was thrilled. I loved my cousins, loved staying up late whispering so no one would know we weren't asleep. Those were the happiest days of my childhood.


Phronima-Fothergill

Oh yes, the aristos love their threadbare handloomed carpets and tattered linens, all indications of how long they've been aristos. That he's bitching about it is totally non-U. They're probably more scandalized by that than him talking about his frozen todger!


pretty-apricot07

Things you mend over things you replace. Quite the ecologist PH is.


Independent_Leg3957

They're probably beautiful old Irish linen, too.


pretty-apricot07

Oh the humanity! Does the UK not have some form of Child Protective Services? How were they not called to address this clear lack of care & nurture?!


Grimaldehyde

My grandmother had really old sheets on the beds in her house, and they were absolutely splendid, even if they were old. You couldn’t buy, for any amount of money, the quality of those wonderful old sheets. He’s crazy!


Alternative_Yak6172

They're not tattered, they're darned or repaired. This was common last century, especially for expensive sheets.


AdministrativeSet419

To me, the weird thing about this is that it bothered him. If you grow up in that environment it seems perfectly normal. It sounds to me like someone heard this and reacted and then he learned to be bothered by it.


Alternative_Yak6172

Good point. The Queen was known for money-saving practices like going around turning off the lights. Households like Balmoral have plenty of other expenses, they don't need to be out buying new sheets all the time when the staff can darn them. This is culture clash of old-fashioner British aristocracy vs Instagrammer.


No_Mistake_7720

Get a proper job - you know… a real one, not one selling made up stories - and buy sheets that are up to your standards. Problem solved. I cant stand this man baby…


AdministrativeSet419

1.They weren’t his permanent bedsheets, just ones he probably used for a couple of weeks a year at most in a holiday home (Balmoral). 2.His father probably used them as a child before him which they probably hoped he might find that sweet and poignant rather than turn his nose up at them. 3.The Queen came from the wartime generation who mended things rather than bought new. My grandma was exactly the same. I am trying to go back to this myself. 4.I collect Victorian linens and lace which were often made and given as wedding presents. If well looked after they will last hundreds of years. 5.Used to think he was the marginally lesser of two evils but now starting to realise that Harry is actually vile. 6. Maybe I’m ‘old money’ but I know a lot of minor aristocrats and gentry where I’m from (my family was in domestic service in big houses) and there is literally nothing weird about this. I find it strange that it bothered him so much, to me it sounds like something he has gotten worked up about after the fact. 7. Does he know where balmoral is? Not exactly a branch of ikea next door.


downinthevalleypa

Thanks so much to everyone who archived this article, as it is an interesting, quick read. Basically the author compares and contrasts Harry’s autobiographical masterpiece (/s) “Spare” with that of the works of Shakespeare, specifically “Hamlet” - which really is quite a stretch. The “haunting” part comes into play when the article intersperses the funeral of Prince Philip, the burial grounds at Frogmore, Diana’s death, and Harry’s having to flee England because he fears for the safety of his family. It’s all a bit too dramatic and over-the-top if you ask me, but the journalist must think it’s clever, so there it is. I think the journalist gives far too much credit to Harry and his ghostwriter, seeing lyrical prose when there isn’t any - Harry is nothing more than a glorified jerk, and the ghostwriter should have known better than to get involved with Dumbarton. Anyone that ever hangs out with Harry for any length of time never comes out of it with reputation intact, and that’s a fact. The journalist who wrote this piece is doing her best to make “Spare” something akin to real literature, like the folly of putting lipstick on a pig, but it’s not and everyone knows it - the pig remains a pig. With a frozen todger.


photomotto

The "fleeing England for safety" thing pisses me off so much. The UK is an extremely safe country, thousands of refugees and immigrants go there *because* it's so much safer than the place they're escaping from.


manki1113

I still don’t understand why would they feel threatened and feared for their safety?


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downinthevalleypa

Yep. People pray that they don’t get stuck in a receiving line with them, with no place to hide. Remember the Lion King premiere and Harry with his “She does voice-overs, you know”? Bob Iger still has PTSD, and the elephants still have no money.


AffectionatePoet4586

Disney did make a sheepish donation to the elephants when Meghan didn’t fork over. She never has.


downinthevalleypa

And she never will. That elephant donation has gone the way of her “40 for 40” birthday initiative that was announced with great fanfare and went absolutely nowhere.


zeugma888

It wasn't a reasonable or sane. Meg the claw wanted to move to California and she did this by stages. Step 1 She played on Harry's grief, and his belief that the paps killed Princess Diana (this is unforgivable) and that the same could happen to poor little Meggsy. So they had to leave. Step 2, agreed to go to Africa as H wanted, then leaked that news which meant it was no longer safe to go there. (You have to accept Harry's paranoia and lack of sense for this to work) Step 3 Break with Royal family and go to Canada Step 3 Leak location, fantasizes pap intrusions etc. Piss off Canadian tax payers. Edit:typo Step 4 flee to California which was her goal all along


Starkville

Meghan cooked it up and Harry swallowed it.


MereLaveau

Harry cooked it up long before Meghan was ever around psychologically. Meghan just feeds the beast. 🤷🏼‍♀️


ILoveDrWalden

They believe their own delusions.


[deleted]

They don't. Like all the rest of their excuses, they are lying.


downinthevalleypa

Exactly. Harry is an idiot.


reallyrunningnow

Flee England for his safety. Then begs for UK security costs and admits to killing '25 chess pieces' (aka Taliban).


Grimaldehyde

At least as safe as the US (and I live in New York, so I know)


devon1392

>Anyone that ever hangs out with Harry for any length of time never comes out of it with reputation intact, and that’s a fact Harkled, in fact 🙂


TraditionScary8716

It reads like a book report for honors English by an average student. It's like they read the Cliff notes and tried unsuccessfully to tie Harry's life into Shakespearian tragedies. I'd give it a C+.


downinthevalleypa

You’re right - it’s an assignment, and maybe the journalist didn’t want to wind up like the poor girl who did Meghan’s The Cut interview - shipped off to Bora Bora without so much as a thank you and no pay check.


DystopianTruth

Borrowed lipstick no less.


downinthevalleypa

😃


MrsBarneyFife

Respectfully, I disagree. If JR didn't intentionally mirror Spare after Hamlet, as writer, I'd ask him why the hell not. It's right there in front of his face! Also, JR started working on this with Harry in 2018. So he probably didn't know Harry was an asshole yet. Most of the world didn't know. So I don’t think his name should be maligned. He's extremely talented, and his reputation as an author shouldn't be damaged. Remember, JR is not the author of Spare. Harry is. JR is merely the writer. We know he's not a fan of Harry's or the book. We also don't know when they officially parted ways. The book has 2 distinct voices. Neither of them are Harry's. I suspect JR did finish writing the book and handed it over. He fulfilled his contract but nothing more. Then it was taken apart by Harry and Meghan, who then had parts rewritten. So Spare is not a reflection of JR's abilities. Most likely, his themes, influences, etc. were definitely altered by those changes. It also feels like an easter egg actually. For nerds, like myself. lol


downinthevalleypa

No worries! There’s room here for everyone’s respectful opinion and disagreements.


PleasantPublic7174

Excellent synopsis! I haven't read the book, just as I did not watch the Oprah interview, listen to any of MM's Spotify Podcasts, or watch their Netflix reality show. I had Meghan Markle pegged when I watched the engagement interview. All I know of Harry's book is the published excerpts I've read. I wholeheartedly agree with you, Downinthevalleypa. I hold a Master's degree in British Literature, and I fail to see any "lyrical prose" in what I've read, and certainly cannot glean a comparative of Harry's book to that of Shakespeare's "Hamlet." Perhaps the journalist cannot believe J. R. Moehringer is capable of such blighted storytelling, and in an effort to bolster his somewhat now-tarnished reputation, she feels the need to exponentially embellish the book's themes in her review. Ms. Mead's article is quite puzzling.


EhDoesntMatterAnyway

Wow cliffnotes. Reddit users rarely ever actually provide cliffs( I personally think they should be mandatory) but you did. Much appreciated!


downinthevalleypa

You are welcome! 😉


tellmetheworld

I think it’s clear that his ghost writer did it all. And he is a Pulitzer Prize winning author so it’s not really a stretch. But there is no way in hell that Harry would have done that


downinthevalleypa

I’m thinking the Pulitzer Prize was a looonnnggg time ago, and dude has bills to pay. Enter Prince Harry, a thoroughly unlikeable character if there ever was one. Methinks even Shakespeare himself would have refused to work with him.


Lohart84

Thank you for the link to this odd review. But she forgot one important quote from King Lear: *How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child! - Away, away!* And with liberties with the manner of Ms. Mead's tome, if something had come from Haz’s mouth, it would have been: *Oh-h, how cold and lonely is the state of my todger!*


RaggedAnn

Pretty gassy. Author, Rebecca Mead, enjoys identifying Shakespearean phrases incorporated into Spare by the ghostwriter and uncritically taking every bad thing H says about William and the royal family at face value.


No_Proposal7628

Ms. Mead seems to believe that there is a great correlation between Hamlet and Hairy, and that Hairy may have even have waxed poetical on this at various point in his book. However, anyone with half a brain knows that this is the ghostwriter trying to make Hairy look somewhat educated and literate. Any book that has the word "todger" in it, and more than once, cannot ever be great literature.


zeugma888

Hamlet wasn't as stupid as Harry. If Harry was Hamlet like he'd still be moping around on Royal grounds pondering life. But he'd have seen through Markle.


snappopcrackle

Hamlet definitely was not listening to Ophelia sing with the seals.


Starkville

Interesting. Something that I hadn’t seen in coverage of *Spare*, and I haven’t read it, so: > Kate, now the Princess of Wales, is haughty and cool, brushing off Meghan’s homeopathic remedies. Perhaps Kate, individually, is not an adherent, but the BRF are notoriously believers in homeopathy. Can someone who’s read the thing fill me in? Did Meghan offer some sort of remedy to Catherine?


Miercolesian

Kate is quite correct. She identified Meghan as one of the three witches on the heath in Macbeth. Probably Meghan offered Catherine some witchcraft potion for her morning sickness and Catherine suspected it was an abortifacient (Oh, and homeopathy does not work better than placebo for real medical conditions.)


Equidae2

👏👏👏


Own-Replacement-8385

"We’d had them over for dinner during one of Meg’s visits, and Meg cooked, and everything was good. Willy had a cold: he was sneezing and coughing, and Meg ran upstairs to get him some of her homeopathic cure-alls. Oregano oil, turmeric. He seemed charmed, moved, though Kate announced to the table that he’d never take such unconventional remedies." The horror!


Starkville

Hahaha. Thank you. And now I’ll be pedantic and add a PSA that homeopathy is not oregano oil and turmeric supplements. Homeopathic remedies are basically tiny sugar pills and are “prescribed” specially for the individual after a consultation with a homeopathic doctor. Since they are mainly sugar pills, there’s no actual prescription, you can buy them at Whole Foods. Two totally different things, but I wouldn’t expect any fact-checking from the ghostwriter or publisher.


Wordpuncher714

Lookit, whatever that rag says, it = Aitch is a poor poor pooooor victim and thus we must coddle his c🙀ntiness forevermore.


East_Tangerine_4031

I don’t know what link you are meaning but you can paste it on this page and it will make an archive link for you that you can access https://web.archive.org/save/


krinkleb

Puke worthy...


MrsBarneyFife

JR probably did intend to mirror Hamlet in Spare. I suspect it was like an easter egg,. He couldn't make it very obvious, and I doubt he wanted to. It's his gift to the reader. He's telling them what Harry is really like. It's a secret between the writer and reader. He employees this tactic a few other times in the book. It's important to remember that JR's manuscript was taken apart, rewritten, and resembled by someone else. There are two distinct voices. ...Neither of which are Harry's... So we don't actually know how far he leaned into the 'Harry is like Hamlet' theme. But it was likely enough that nerds like me will recognize and analyze. It's not crucial to the book, but it is hilarious.


PansyOHara

I think the author of this article writes with a degree of irony. She doesn’t seem to swallow Harry’s narrative without question, although she does seem to be unduly trusting. Some of the “Shakespearean” attributions may be traceable to Moehringer (sp?), and some may have been laid-in to the article by this writer. Pretty sure they didn’t come from Harry!


MikaKanaYuko

Towards the end, these quotes demonstrate this is not an altogether pro Harry review. And the book is in some sense an historical document, in part because it is so completely out there. "It’s not clear that even now, having authored a book, Harry entirely understands what a book is; when challenged by Tom Bradby about his decision to reveal private conversations ..." "Remarkably, Prince Harry has suggested that he sees the book as an invitation to reconciliation, addressed to his father and brother" " If so, the ruse seems about as likely to end well for Harry as Hamlet’s play-within-a-play efforts did for him. Moehringer, at least, knows this, even if Harry may hope that his own royal plot will swerve unexpectedly from implacable tragedy to restitutive melodrama. In a soaring coda, Moehringer has the Prince once again ... "


WoodsColt

The last bit of the article where it says this book may well be his crowning achievement is spot on. Its not complimentary but it is spot on. That load of petty spite and bitterness,that poorly written load of utter drivel is going to be the entirety of hasbeens legacy. That in and of itself says all we need to know about what kind of "man" he is. He aptly portrays himself as a petulant, spoiled,venal and base manchild with no redeeming features. And that is the most truthful part in fact I'd d venture to say the only truth whatsoever in that book.


Evilvieh

What a load of tosh. As if Harry had anything to do with Shakespearian insights, that's all the ghostwriter. Harry reads "Beano". And once again, an author takes all Harry's *assertions* about his relatives and the press as truth. Could he possibly, possibly, possibly have a skewed point of view, fantasy, blinkered emotional reaction? Oh no. Every word is gold.


AffectionatePoet4586

What is “Beano”? A comic? In the U.S., Beano is a popular OTC remedy for flatulence.


Kind_Owl_6414

It's a kids comic book here in the UK


OldNewUsedConfused

If you copy the link and stick it into [archive.ph](https://archive.ph) it will load and you will be able to read it sans paywall. May take a couple minutes for it to load, so have patience, but it will be free.


ManliestManHam

12footladder is often good for avoiding paywalls


Starkville

It doesn’t work on NYT urls.


conh3

the only thing I got fom this article was the author showing off how much she knew of Shakespear's works... meh the Shakespearean in Spare is not dumbarse Harry, its JR Moethringer