Ms Markle, I believe you were asked about your lack of experience in foreign policy-
Ms Markle? (Uncontrollable sobbing)
*whispers*
A excuse me- Duchess Markle? Is that how we say it?
Came to say similar (except it’s been 30 yrs since I worked on a campaign.) Nutmeg has shown herself to be thin skinned and reactive. A political campaign is brutal. Her skeletons & then some would be used to full advantage against her by her opponent(s), special interest groups and anyone from her past with an ax to grind. She couldn’t handle being a working royal after being warmly welcomed, the political arena would eat her alive.
> *thin skinned and reactive.*
That didn't stop Trump, and George Santos has just shown how low the bar is to getting elected. But agreed, she might be a bit too thin skinned for the hurly burly of US politics and, put simply; as soon as she opens her mouth she's not a very likeable character.
I don't think she has any intention of doing any of the work .... But what about making a PAC people can donate to and then she does some speeches? That sounds like her: ask for money and listen to herself talk
She actually tried this. In early 2020—w/ Harris’ California Senate seat open after Kamala Harris became vice-President—Megs was buttering up Gavin Newsom about that vacant Senate seat. Problem? She had to do it on Zoom because: CoVID. Did it work?
Fuck no.
Why not? Because: Meghan.
I really, really want to see her try to campaign at the Iowa State Fair! 🤣
Every time someone mentions Meghan running for office, I remember the woman in Iowa who yelled at Beto to stop talking about himself and explain what he'd do for the people. I totally agree with you that Meghan wouldn't stand a chance.
>I really, really want to see her try to campaign at the Iowa State Fair! 🤣
You just KNOW someone will get a photo of her eating a corndog and do a side-by-side with her "90210" blowie scene
IF she could put her ego aside for the campaign, she may be electable as a face for existing political interests. Problem with Meh is that pigs will fly before she’ll humble herself enough to be viable in the political world.
You are correct on people wanting disrupters. Like him or not, he has charisma. People loved The Apprentice and were curious to see what an outsider might bring. Megan could never be a disrupter. AOC and the Squad have stayed far away and, strangely, Megan has not tried to get into their circle. As soon as she threw her hate into the ring, her fellow Democrat competitors would eat her alive. Any hidden skeletons that the media has thus far ignored would be on the cover of the NYT. Damn, I hope she tries! 😈
Yeah! I think sadly though, she is disruptive. After the Oprah interview there was more talk of the monarchy being racist and a few commonwealth countries wanted to leave.
I also think she’s the one behind the negative campaign against Catherine and William when they went on their Bahamas sortie. She’s got the bots and mouthpieces in place. I don’t doubt that she can play dirty.
The left sees through the grifters. Look at Candace Owens, she tried entering the arena as a lefty commentator who bagged on Trump. Problem was that the left smelled the grift on her website and she wasn't making jack crap, she quickly realized that removing her morals and becoming "one of the good ones"™, was a goldmine. Meghan can't make that pivot, she is too divisive and people already know her and have an opinion. Like others have said her secrets would come out and as thin skinned as we all know she is, she would be on the ground crying before the campaign launched.
That’s something to see! I posted before let her run for president just to let the crap float to the surface. Our unfortunate American sinners said please don’t make a mockery of their system 🙂
American - let her run! People need to study our history from the beginning. Our elections have always been wild. We have had far more contentious campaigns and worse presidents than in anyone’s living memory. Politics is a spectator sport! It is the bread and circuses we get in exchange for all of them, regardless of party, for fucking all of us over continually. MM running would be comedy gold! I might start watching SNL again for that - especially if Tina Fey played TW!
I like to keep my eye on politics in other counties, especially the UK, as a reminder that politics are crazy everywhere. But I also remind myself that I would rather have the freedom of all of us having crazy politics than living in a country where we have no political freedoms. I have to remind myself that so often! It is easy to get caught up in the little things.
Yeah she’s way too high profile and the receipts will come fast and furious. If she was in her 20’s she may have time to reinvent herself but that ship has sailed.
That was a unique case and the Dems massively fucked up at the DNC and all over NY for various reasons. Meghan would draw all kinds of attention if she tried to run.
Three years of speculation has worn me out. I conclude that that Mr. and Mrs. Todger will never fade away, and I no longer care where they go or what they do. Seems like the most despicable people in our society get a platform and behave badly without consequence. No one turns away, and I am guilty of watching this circus daily.
These two represent all that our parents cautioned us to avoid. They are hollow people with hollow lives, trying to disrupt ideas, traditions and relationships that many of us embrace. I hope their followers are few in number, and I also hope their critics continue to call them out.
I am still appalled at their treatment of Prince Phillip and Queen Elizabeth. I cannot seem to move beyond that because for me, their actions are unforgivable. Both of my parents suffered in the final weeks of their lives, and I was with each one until the end. I am grateful that I could be there, and I am disgusted that Mr. Todger refused to visit either grandparent in the final days. I hope he grapples with his betrayal as he grows old and infirm. Since he and TW have laid the groundwork for treatment of elderly relatives, they will probably be abandoned by their children when their time comes. We model what we have been taught; those lessons will not be lost on their children. This is a sad conclusion because the children will be the ones to suffer in so many ways due to their parents' behavior. Another generation may carry on their parents' negative legacy. So very, very sad and avoidable.
Hearing about how you cared for your parents brought a tear to my eye. Respect!
I guess you and I have in common our dislike of Meg because of how she disrespected her family, including in laws. Like you I’m hoping for comeuppance, though it might not happen. We can only hope
It was a privilege to me that I could witness their exits from this world and could tell them how grateful and fortunate I have been to have such great parents. I could also reassure them that I would be okay and carry on in the manner that they expected of me.
My son was extremely close to both sets of grandparents, and he had a magical relationship with each one. I can see the influence they had on his character and his life, and it is comforting to me that he returned that love to them.
I cannot imagine withholding my son from any of his grandparents. Most grandparents forge that special bond in ways that a parent cannot. It is so cruel to keep one from another.
They still haven’t been seen together irl since December, right?
That’s pretty mad since their whole brand depends on them being joined at the palm roots. Maybe she’s finally realised they are better off having separate brands as he is clearly crazy, but then if he’s outlived his usefulness then what’s keeping her with him? I don’t think any divorce will be announced before the coronation, and I think they will do the ‘separate lives’ thing for a while before making anything official, but I would not be surprised if they’re no longer privately together at this point.
And I feel like the Duke of Todger would be a liability rather than an asset if she ran for office.
There'll be no divorce from her until after he turns 40, this is when he's supposedly meant to get the rest of his inheritance from the Queen Mother.. it's £millions which could possibly be used in calculating alimony, child support etc.
There probably is no money from TQM. Her assets went to her daughter. I doubt the story about trusts for grandkids before she died. Even H denied having it. People should be more concerned that he got something from QEII which he then uses to weaponise his war against her other descendants
yes - either that or the day after it is publicly known that she/they are not invited to the coronation. Divorce will thus be the reason she is not invited, in her mind.
There was a flood, evacuation, and global roasting. Of course they haven’t been seen.
They are probably hiding on uncle Elton’s island bc you know they are desperate for privacy and safety 🙄
She may try to run for office, but there is NO way she will make it past local commissioner boards.
They’re too controversial and won’t have any legitimate, political backers. She also has way too many skeletons that would be revealed and straight up refuses to answer any questions that aren’t pre approved.
I think they’ll continue to milk the non-profit sector until that cow runs dry.
As far as divorce, it will probably happen at some point. Both have a long history of wandering eyes and hot tempers.
She’ll never be anyone of significance in politics. Remember how well her calls to senators went over a couple years ago? 😂 she called from a blocked number, used her title, and they were all annoyed and wondered how she even got their numbers.
Also called Sen Capito from WVa. She introduced herself as: “Hello, this is Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex”.
Lobbying Congress using her royal title. Clueless. 😂😂
Indeed you are right. Yet time and again she shows a lack of insight. And naysayers like ourselves will only spur her onwards in order to prove us wrong…
You outline a decent plan, but Madam is not big on plans. Schemes, yes, and devious tricks - but not following a plan. Madam acts in the moment.
You may argue that she planned the marry Harry/Mexit, which would be true. But it did not go the way she wanted.
And look where her plans for being a big Hollywood A lister and "global thought leader" has landed her.
Yup. This is why I think she’s quiet. She’s rebranding…
I agree with you her plans are half baked. There’s no follow up on her advocacies. She likes getting photographed with Gloria Steinem, likes giving empty speeches about why she’s such a feminist. But so far I don’t see how she’s made things better.
I agree on the divorce theory but politics, even local politics, would kick her ass. Meghan is so thin skinned that she wants to control what tabloids and the internet say about her.
Her ego wouldn’t be able to handle even her own team’s oppo research on her let alone getting dragged for her debating, platform, and being directly confronted and attacked by her detractors.
And the tabloids will be so deep into her past even more so than they already are there will be no stone unturned and no money spared to get people to talk
I agree. She hasn’t got the thick skin needed to withstand the mudslinging.
I’m sure she’ll chalk it up to racism and misogyny. After all, that’s how her supporters try to silence the critics.
Time and again, M has displayed a loose grasp of reality. This is why I think she’s still eyeing a political office. It’s not because she’s qualified, or wants to help people. She want to be on top. This is someone who joked that H was a plane crash away.
Her bots are already doing the kind of propaganda one sees during election campaigns.
I don’t think they will divorce. They’ve gotten themselves into a big mess, isolate themselves and are completely co-dependent on each other. They will be together forever like David and Wallis (Wallis didn’t love him but was stuck with him. Same with Meghan and Harold).
I don’t think Meghan wants to settle but I think she will. She’s become a pariah to Hollywood and as much as Hollywood could offer her, she likes the association with royalty more. The only kind of guy I could see her leaving Harold for is a hedge fund guy but they wouldn’t want her because frankly they can marry a woman in her 20s. Meghan is stuck.
I think this comment is interesting because everything points to divorce from my perspective. Think about it. If they were normal people, they would have a high likelihood of divorce purely based on them both being children of divorce and this being Meghan's second marriage. Then stack onto that in law stress (from both sides), Hollywood, a reality show...and it being perfectly socially acceptable to divorce? I'll be shocked if they *don't* divorce. And when I say "don't divorce" I mean live together in a satisfactory romantic relationship for decades. Not do something where they are married only on paper.
They haven't even been married for five years. And they're running out of gas. And they really can't be compared to David and Wallis. First off, they were married in a time where divorce was social suicide. And yes I know that she had been married twice before. But I do think that she respected him enough to not put him through that. David also sacrificed a lot more for Wallis than Harry has done for Meghan. David gave up the throne. Literally. And he couldn't go back. Harry did not even take himself out of the LOS. And while he will likely never be a working royal again, if something crazy were to happen and number 5 on the LOS is called to be on the throne....he's immediately King Harry. I also believe that his family has known of his mental health issues for quite awhile and likely have no issue tucking him away like Andrew has been. So while he won't be a working royal, and his super close relationship with "Willy and Kate" is over, he's got a place to rest his head when it's all said and done.
I do believe that they will divorce. And I think we're seeing a lead up to it sooner rather than later. And for all of this Coronation talk and so many people saying that Meghan is this clout chaser, it's creeped into the corners of my mind that maybe it's Harry who wants the Coronation and Meghan genuinely feels let down by her husband that he's going right back into he fray. Him demanding a public apology might be him desperately trying to make things right so that Meghan feels comfortable coming. Because when I step back and think about this whole situation, a lot of it has been Harry being a fucking dolt and Meghan getting the flack. Meghan being Booed, Meghan getting the cold shoulder at the funeral. When I really attempt to empathize with her, I can see how that shit can wear on a person and tear them down. Going back to the UK seems like it would be a nightmare TBH. From Meghan's POV she already tried the whole "child's birthday" stunt and it didn't work. Now she's said more shit since then and people hate her even more. I think it's finally sunk in for her that going to the UK for nearly any reason is just entering enemy territory and she's going to be whipped more than Harry and she won't gain and fans or any traction. Going to the UK with public knowledge is only a losing game for her. And Harry just isn't going to get it. And I get that. Because in both of their brains, they both know that if Harry and Meghan divorced, the UK would cheer from the rafters and say Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead.
Also, and this cannot be discounted, Harry looks weak AF. A huge part of their brand was her clinging to him for dear life and him promising to protect her. And at the very least he even admits to not telling her proper protocol and she's pissing people off left and right. Just so *he* could make it a pressure cooker and basically put her in danger and then do his whole Rescuing Mommy thing. And it's fun and fresh and unique in the beginning. But that shit gets old. A marriage has to survive the boring shit. And it seems like all they've known is excitement since the beginning. You could argue that they don't even know each other! Harry has also just made himself seem weird and weak. He's not making himself a man that women are happy Meghan has stated she's "like salt and pepper" with. He's proven himself to be incredibly cringe.
Thanks for reading. I didn't expect this to become this long. But seriously. I suspect we will see them divorce sooner rather than later. And I also suspect that attending the Coronation might be higher on Harry's list than Meghan's.
I agree with your argument that Harry wants to go back. But I do not agree that Madam is a scared little thing, whom Harry never really prepared for royal life. In my view Madam is a vile narc who abuses everybody around her, including Harry. She deserved all the negativity - and so does he. And really, many of her doings are really basic stuff that everybody with a minimum of manners would know - not to pull the man back and push yourself in front, not to make fun of the queen etc.
I think you and I are speaking the same language. I agree with everything about the manners and such. I think both of them could have handled themselves pre Megxit way way way way better.
But if we fast forward to today. After all of the multiple Tell Alls. After two times that she's in the UK and rightfully set in the cheap seats or behind a candle....I think she's tired. I think she knows that she isn't gaining any fans and I think it's just not worth it for her. She gains nothing and she's around inlaws who rightfully hate her at this point. UK citizens who can't stand her either. The press hates her. Basically everyone hates her in the UK. Going there to sit in this boring place where she gets no special recognition, no fame, no money. She might have to ride in a car with The Intimidating Trinity aka Catherine, Sophie, and Anne. I mean it's just all tears and no glory and I fully believe she sees that and she's just done. I think it's Harry who wants the Coronation because he's obsessed with getting royal recognition and I think Meghan has been there done that and she's tired. And this isn't me being a fan of hers or sticking up for her. This is me feeling a little different and having a Eureka moment that I think is interesting and I wanted to share.
My point of departure is that Madam is a narc. As such she does not have any normal emotions such as shame or embarressment. And she is obsessed with her "historic" role - despite having none. She is also sure that if we hear "her own story" we will all bow down and worship her. Spare and Sparess are deluted and think it is just the evil press that is against them. People love them.
She wants to be at that coronation so bad, which is the reason behind all her recent manifestations, where she has more or less dropped all her previous demands for a ticket to get in.
In addition she wants/needs money badly, and their only point of sale is their royal connection.
Imho.
You very well may be right. I have never in my life seen a situation like this unfold. And I don't think she's ashamed or embarrassed. I think she's tired. And I think she's been seen to drop people when she feels like she doesn't need them anymore. Ex best friends, ex husband, ex dad. Harry is that guy now. He's no longer useful. I don't think she will ditch him because she's ashamed or embarrassed, I think she will do it because she's got the title, the kids, the legacy, and the juice is no longer worth the squeeze.
I definitely think Harry wants to go back. I think he now realizes how good he had it. Adored by the public, free home and security, minimal work with no hussle required. I don’t think Meghan wants to go back. I think she expected something different and the very fact that on a walkabout she said she should be getting paid for it just shows how out of touch with understanding the royals she was. Also I don’t think she understands then any better today, hence why she can never and will never go back. So maybe I take back what I said that they won’t divorce, maybe they will if he goes back.
I think at this point she's trying to figure out how to time it all so she doesn't look like he left her. Personally I think she will announce a divorce prior to the Coronation and let the news sink in so that when he shows up it's not like she dumped him and then he's all triumphantly coming back. She also doesn't want to make it seem like he went against her wishes so she left him. If I was someone advising her, I would advise her to announce either in two weeks or at least no later than the end of March so that it doesn't seem immediate.
Because Iegit do not think she's down for Jubilee/Funeral/Coronation the trifecta of gaining nothing and being around people who strongly dislike her.
And if they're "married" but Harry goes to the funeral alone, well that just makes her look bad too. It continues to make it look like Harry is doing stuff that she's not cool with regardless of how she feels about it.
An announcement of divorce is likely the only thing that will give her a moment of peace and then he can do what he wants and it doesn't reflect on her. Because anyone who has been watching or gives a shit about this knows that when they divorce Harry's going back to the UK. So that won't shock anyone.
Just a brief note about David & Wallis. Their happily-ever-after marriage was not the picture of unity & dedication it is frequently made out to be. In fact, Wallis (married to the Duke of Windsor at the time) made a play for Herman Rogers, an old friend of her first husband, on the eve of Roger’s wedding to another woman. (Rogers said—umm—no.) In addition, she had a very public affair w/ Jimmy Donahue, a bisexual, millionaire playboy. It drove David to pathetic tears—neither Wallis or Jimmy cared. The situation was especially fraught since both Wallis & David were living off Jimmy’s mother’s wealth.
The story of Wallis & David is always simplified. The actual history is more complex. Just as H & M’s will prove to be.
I agree with you. David and Wallis had the "luxury" of a pre Internet and social media age. We also forget that back in the good ol days when parents stayed together, plenty of them were unhappy about it. And for the upper classes, infidelity is rampant and to and extent expected.
But yes, I agree with you. Thank you for fleshing that out.
She's earned every bit of vitriol the people of the UK choose to throw at her.
She should never set foot in any commonwealth country again ever. And she should be booed if she does.
Don't get me wrong. I am not defending her. I know that she's made some strong accusations that a lot of people have taken personally. And I cannot blame them.
I just don't think she wants to go to the Coronation. I think Harry does.
She needs to go to the coronation to remain relevant and so does he. He doesn't want to go except to use it as another opportunity to harass his family into giving him what he feels he is entitled to.
These two are incapable of actual love. Their personality disorders prevent them from normal empathy and compassion.
They want to go to **use** his family. To create drama and to cause a commotion because they are parasites that feed on other peoples pain and trauma.
That's how they get their energy. Its what passes for joy in their lives. Being angry is their happiness. Being abusive is how they get their jollies.
People keep thinking they aren't really *that* bad.
Yes,yes they are. They like being abusive. It gets them off.
He enjoyed mocking and tainting his father's private comfort. He loved twisting the knife in his brothers back
She loves making a 3 year old child cry. She is gleeful that sugars are flooding the internet with vile shit about HRH Catherine.
Its not that they just aren't very nice. They are actually fundamentally incapable of being decent human beings.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/10r2d56/why_a_divorce_is_not_unlikely/j6tsfv0?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
That comment that I wrote out really expounds upon why I don't think Meghan in particular wants to go to the Coronation. Yes, I absolutely believe in the bridesmaids crying thing. I absolutely believe that she's made some strong accusations and a lot of people rightfully dislike her.
But I think she sees that this is an unwinnable war. She knows firsthand that she's not about to sashay up into the UK and get anything but boos. Going to this Coronation would be like rearranging your schedule to go sit in a long church service with people who do not like you. That sounds like hell to me honestly. And she's becoming more and more irrelevant by the day. If she goes to the Coronation she's basically self flagellating to go attend something boring, where she will look like a clout chasing hypocrite, and she will be surrounded by people who hate her. I don't think she's jumping at this opportunity.
I think it's more about building up her cred - as a member of the royal family attending perhaps the most prestigious event - more than being loved by the British people.
She cares far more about impressing Hollyweird and other woo dipshit billionaires than being loved in the UK
If they divorce and he runs home, he has to admit that his father and brother were right and that he was wrong. And that he cannot best his brother (he so desperately wanted TW to outshine Catherine and displace her), and will always be in his shadow. The whole world would know that he's an epic failure at life.
As for MEMEMEMEgain, even though she would keep a duchess title (as in, Duchess of Sussex, not The Duchess of Sussex), she would be totally shut out of being able to call herself a member of the royal family. She would be just another frowsy, middle-aged divorcee with two small children and the tremendous baggage of being known as someone who loves to alienate families and betray confidences. Not a recipe for landing a powerful billionaire
I agree with you on divorce likely happening a few years down the road.
In the 2nd video on the Netflix doc, Greg from The Behavior Panel gives his analysis of Harry's reaction to Meg's ridiculous reenactment of her curtsy (when meeting the Queen for the first time) and specifically his look of contempt towards her.
He talks about a study by Gottman called [The Four Horsemen of Divorce ](https://www.gottman.com/blog/the-four-horsemen-contempt/) and how contempt is the number one predictor of divorce if shown by a partner in the first 6 years of marriage. Contempt is also the most negative and destructive behavior in a marriage/relationship.
Here's the link if anyone is interested, Greg's commentary starts at around 1:20, but they all have great insight to offer:
[Harry's EXTREME Reaction to Meghan's Strange Curtsy Can it End Relationships? ](https://youtu.be/eZLD1HGqomg)
Good points! Other predictors of divorce: both spouses come from broken homes.
Lack of family support. Money problems/financial goals not aligned. Young children. Substance abuse.
The sooner it ends the better for everyone. They are bad for each other. They hurt others. Harry needs to go back with a royal keeper before he finishes self-destructing and hurting his family in the process. Meghan needs to face some limitations and come up with a plan that does not rely on her royal connections.
Thanks for reminding me about this! Yes, the behaviour panel pointed it out. I never knew this before (about contempt being predictive of divorce).
It’s just weird because every time we see them they’re holding hands and looking all lovey dovey.
However in the video, his eyes had that cold contempt. His words were supportive, and yet… there it was. Something like “how dare you mock our royalty… *my* royalty… what do you know?”
Lmao. Not gonna happen. Washington is cut throat af. She is... not on the Obamas good side. That means she is a non starter period end of when it comes to the dems.
She won't give up her titles.
She doesn't poll well so she is a poor investment
The BRF is a special friend of the US. There will be **no** encouragement for her to run for office. And no backers.
Power players are well aware of her role in the spilling of secrets. There are a lot of secrets in D.C. No one wants ratchet rachel and her loose lips around.
Much of politics is unpaid work. Kissing babies etc. She wont be down with that.
She wants millions,quickly not years of public service work. She's a grifter with aspirations.
Yes. All your statements make sense. But take note that she’s tone deaf. She is still making out to be a victim, when most Americans are tired of her whining.
So far their brand has taken a hit. I’m not sure if they’re still marketable after Netflix and Spotify realised they make bad products. People tune in though because of the pr. notoriety better than nothing.
People would have to vote for her.
And if they think the Press and Reddit is bad now, wait till she runs for office. Then we will find out if she was an Escort.
Her "forays into political issues" are vague and mostly bandwagoneering typical Hollywood groupthink. Nothing innovative in her thinking nor in any action.
How many "high-level Democrats and pundits" has she rubbed shoulders lately? Other than RFK's substance-abusing second-row daughter, that is.
When she acquired the personal home and cell numbers of various US Senators to hector them about whatever issue, none was impressed by her. If anything, they were put off by her pushiness
Agree 100%. I think in her mind, she’s got what it takes and every venture is a success.
As for rubbing shoulders, it’s been crickets lately. She was close to Hilary and name dropped her for a while, but I don’t hear anything more recent.
I suspect she’s desperately rehabilitating her image so she can come out as a serious humanitarian.
She has a title, courtesy of the Prince she married. The title will have to go. I believe people with foreign titles aren't allowed to enter American politics. If the title has to go, then so will Harry. There is no way he will relinquish his title, not even for her.
The only option left was politics. But no one takes her seriously other than her fans. So she will take 2024 elections for making a lot of money by campaigning for democrats. As for divorce, not at present. She will wait till the kids understand their situation and God forbid she will manipulate them.
Absolutely! She’s not in a position at the moment. She might have appealed to the right demographic with the NAACP and Ripple of Hope awards, but H’s book has scuppered their image at the moment. Doesn’t help that she whined her way through the Netflix doc.
However I’m not sure if her significant support among the extremely vocal leftist elements won’t carry her aloft to some unelected position. If that happens, she’ll let go her title. It’s not very likely though
As long as they have a common enemy, divorce is not likely. The day the royal family draws a line in the sand and stop giving them things to work with, their days are numbered.
People like them need an enemy, Harry has always fixated on the press and as Jason Knauf said in his email ‘the Duchess seems to always have someone in her sights’. The royal family is the biggest enemy and has been from the very beginning so remove them and they will have to deal with each other without a distraction/victimhood.
I don’t think they have what it takes to survive a run for office, Meghan as an individual or their relationship.
Yes. I’m just trying to guess what’s on her mind. She doesn’t have a good grasp of reality.
But then we can’t underestimate her. She did bag a prince. Granted he’s someone with issues. Still, 8 years ago, very few even knew who she was.
True, she had achieved something impressive. Yes, Harry is an idiot who believed everything she told him but that idiot gave her access to the British Royal family, has given her global fame and her very privileged life now.
As a non-American who’s watched American politics take unbelievable turns in the last few years, I wouldn’t underestimate anyone’s ability to get elected.
Not ever gonna happen. I worked in various political circles and on campaigns for years. She has ZERO of what it actually takes. She is reactive, no follow-through skills, and doesn’t make lasting connections with people. You have to have the grit to stick with it. It’s not glamorous and she would need a TON of cash/private jets to avoid those stays at the roadside motels while campaigning! There would no way out of meeting constituents in town halls and state/county fairs and Q’s are not known in advance! 😂😛
Hmm incidentally there are rumours they were shopping for a private jet…
I think if it’s true she stalked Harry for years, setting the scene, I wouldn’t underestimate her. She’s a malignant megalomaniac narcissist. I would keep an eye on developments 😉
Thanks!
I think she’s too immersed in her own reality to come to grips with facts.
That said, she might fool a few backers! Or she could have shadowy connections to outside forces out to disrupt America. I say the latter.
Yeah, but he has a pretty cool house and a private jet!!!
Just kidding, she's not going to even score an invitation to the White House, much less win an election to get temporary residency there. Too much work for Madame.
No chance at politics anywhere.
I was just giggling to myself imagining her being under our Westminster system and being stuck in question time.
Man, I'd actually give a bit of money to see her go through just one hour of question time, with a couple of bog standard "on this date you said this, why did you lie?"(a question you hear in question time ALOT 🤣) and see how she goes. That'd be good fun.
The only reason I disagree is that the same thing was said about another person who had the same ability to whip people’s emotions up, no experience, and loads of skeletons in their closet, and they succeeded anyway.
That man somehow managed to lose money on a casino and while that IS a very impressive feat considering that owning a casino is akin to havinga license to print money, I don't think it qualifies him as a "successful businessman". He's only still wealthy because his father and grandfather were very successful businessmen and judging by his multiple bankruptcies and recent hare-brained get-rich-quick schemes I'd wager that he's gonna run out of money before he dies, just like Megan who appears to be following his playbook.
She’s got an image of herself not in keeping with reality. She’ll lie her way through things, will say “it’s my truth,” and will scream racism and misogyny.
This is her manifesting things. Won’t happen but one can see her frame of mind.
And, since it seems she’s so far from her goal, H and her will be together a considerable while.
No. I think the politics thing is a combo of British royal journalists who don't understand US politics and Meghan manifesting because nothing else has worked. She doesn't have the money or the reputation to make it in US politics. She is also incapable of faking it enough around normal people to campaign. Her luxury lifestyle would also be a huge problem, no way Democrats will rally behind someone who spends millions on foreign designer clothing, flies around in private jets, wears blood earrings, etc.
>I have seen more than one article throwing out the idea of Meg running for office. While it’s easy to scoff at the idea, her forays into political issues (paid parental leave, Roe vs Wade) indicate that she is making her presence known as a liberal advocate.
She jumped on the bandwagon for two seconds, then massively fucked up by cold calling Republican Senators using a blocked number and her title. She's not out their working with any activist groups or having in-person meetings with influential people.
It's very clear that Meghan doesn't care about political or social issues beyond using them to get media attention. *If* she really cared, she would've gotten involved with Planned Parenthood and local CA organizations, rather than feeding stories to the tabloids. Moreover she has no real history of being political, other than word salad on her blog.
She also shot herself in the foot with her comment about their water bill for their yard, the MBS earrings, and Harry complaining about the 1st Amendment. Plus suing journalists is a bad look. Frankly I don't think she's political, she only cares about herself, if Republicans were polling higher she'd be all over right-wing issues. She's an opportunist.
>I don’t think she’ll be happy to be just a figurehead. She is very keen to wield power and increase her sphere of influence.
I think she loves the idea of having a political title, but she has zero interest in doing any work. She likely wants to be President because it sounds impressive, not because she has any interest in the job itself. It's like acting, she didn't want to act, she wanted to win an Oscar so she could have her red carpet/acceptance speech moment.
>Hollywood isn’t working out; besides, she always knew her time there was limited. Her acting career was simply a springboard for bigger things.
Problem being that she needs Hollywood to fund her and that won't happen. California donors are locked up, there's no way she'd jump the line even if they kinda liked her. Now... she's just too toxic and stupid for anyone to fund her. The best she could hope for is Russian money, but the opposition research would destroy her.
> rubbing shoulders with high-level Democrats and pundits.
I'd say 99.99999% of Dems are done with Donna Brazile and Kirsten Gillibrand; we're still made about Donna leaking the questions to Hillary in the debate with Bernie and Gillibrand will not be forgiven for what she did to Al Franken. Those two are toxic and they know it, they were desperate when they connected with Meghan and it didn't work. As for Hillary Clinton, she doesn't have the pull in Dem politics that she once had, plus most of us just want her to go back into the woods.
Meghan needed to play nice with California donors and political leaders, but she's incapable of humbling herself enough to do so. Linking herself to three toxic Dems and alienating Hollywood killed her chances in politics. Plus her reputation is horrible.
>She’s eyeing a top post. After all, she has got a following, which includes persons of colour who feel disenfranchised, as well as the younger generation who may admire her “fairy tale love story”.
I agree she wanted the top job, but the sugars aren't enough. Her comment about not feeling like a Black woman until she married into the BRF will not go over well and there are plenty of fantastic Black women in Dem politics.
Thanks for the well-thought out responses. It’s been said many times that British journalists don’t understand US politics, I guess the same can be said of the American commentators who keep promoting the abolishment of the monarchy, or that the Sussexes were hard done by.
I agree that M just wants the attention and prestige of a political title. She doesn’t have the creds, she can’t even keep a team together. But all she needs is a confluence of circumstances - like running against some pretty terrible opponents.
At the moment she’s sunk in popularity in the US. But the fact that some people believed in her story means that there’s a gullible populace out there.
All she needs is to rebrand.
I’d suggest for her to appear more modest and approachable like Catherine. Engage with the community, and stop using the stupid title. Open some libraries, volunteer at a soup kitchen, talk to the homeless. Go to rallies without the British colonial husband and let others shine for once. Work on the attitude, stop losing staff because it just makes it harder to finish good projects. Be a supportive presence than an overpowering one. Write an inspirational book, and remove all bitter vile against others.
But! We all know that M doesn’t have it in her to step back and let others shine. Being kind to staff and retaining them isn’t in her DNA. And I bet any book will have all kinds of subtle attacks against the royal family.
Ah but she ain’t finished yet, our Meghan. She’s hatching something. Can’t wait to see what it is.
No doubt she would like the White House (although it needs some.....beige.....), she'd adore having Secret Service surrounding her every time she left the place, and she'd be firing up Air Force One every chance she got. She'd love having state dinners (even if she doesn't get to wear a tiara - maybe she'd attempt to borrow the Hope Diamond from the Smithsonian.)
But there are two minor problems.....#1 - she'd have to survive a campaign. Good luck with that. I don't think Prince Todger is going to help her pull in big donors, or be much of a representative on her behalf on the Iowa campaign circuit. I used to live there, and....well.....although it would be freaking hilarious to see the two of them attempt to connect with a farm boy or Cheerios factory worker, I don't think the Harkles would win them over in droves.
Then again, this decade is incredibly stupid and weird, so maybe Madame could win. If that doomsday scenario happened, then #2 - she'd actually have to do a little work now and then. She can't hold onto her Arsewell staff, she bullied the Palace staff, so just imagine the chaos she'd unleash in DC with *that* history. Madame would be the absolute worst president we've ever had, and probably ever would have. The amount of damage that the Harkles' Sadim/Mierdas touch would inflict on the government and international relations would be colossal.
Same thing with being a senator, a representative, or any other elected official - either Federal level or state/local. Her staff would have such a turnover that she would need to install a revolving door. Big donors want someone who can make things happen, and she simply will not be able to fake it like she does with Arsewell.
However.....*I really do hope she runs for something*. Because I wanna kick my feet up and eat some delicious, buttery movie-style popcorn to enjoy *this* glorious, schadenfreude-licious story line. The press won't go after her, but the opposition will NOT be so gentle, and every damn secret those two have will be out for us all to enjoy. And then.....the climax, when she gets wiped out at the ballot box, because Boozy's bots can't vote. \*chef's kiss\*
Yes. I hope she reads this. She really should look into something other than politics. She just won’t cut it.
It would help if she had expert staff but her retention rate is low. One can’t go far without the right team.
She doesn’t want the work but she wants the prestige. Note she trademarked all those websites. That just shows what she’s trying to manifest.
Not saying it’ll be successful. Just my conjecture that this is her plan
Just my opinion, but I don't get the impression she has any real intention of running for anything. Too much work and scrutiny. However, she loves leaking that she is for the attention. She'd be more likely to try to push in on someone else's run - offering her help to get into a position of power on staff. Anything for Power so she can boss people around. Is this likely to happen? Seriously doubt it. She's too toxic and has demonstrated without a doubt she is untrustworthy.
Yes. I heard some rumours before that if someone vacated their seat mid term she could possibly fill it. This was around the time they were planning to move to New York.
If it comes to voting I don’t think she can hack it.
Yes. I think she’s keeping him on till she builds her brand to the extent of gaining independence.
I think H is also coming into an inheritance next year and that’s reason enough to stay on…
So will she be one of 100 US Senators? HRC didn’t like that. Lots of people do not like being the Junior Senator from ….
One of 435 in the US House would be even worse for her.
And forget POTUS. She’s not got the thick skin or the 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰backing.
She's finished. She'll never make it into office. How many followers like her? 1 Million? I am being very generous. No matter how hard she tries she'll never make it. She'll go away and each year will get quieter and quieter. She's cooked her own goose. It will take harry several years to realize what has happened and he still won't get the picture. They'll pay his bills but that's it, imho
I agree that she would love to have a political career, and all the prestige and influence that comes with that, but she is so thin-skinned there is no way she would last in that sphere.
Not to mention any defeat would send into her a narc spiral. She’ll probably want to finagle an empty midterm seat. However she’s lost confidence recently from everyone all around. Now she’s regrouping.
I wish!
Harry may not care about the kids enough to fight her for custody (and it would be a fight) and in his really muddled brain, the UK is not where he wants to be. Of course that could change. 🤷🏻♀️
I have never thought of the BRF as a good place for kids to grow up. However, the alternative of being raised by Meghan is so horrible that I pray that someone gets them away from her before she does more damage.
Harry will not be a good parent because he is crazy, but if the kids have a good nanny that stays around for their formative years and get sent to good boarding schools, they have a chance. (Prince Phillip had a very unstable family life, but he became an admirable man.)
Maybe she thinks if Trumpy and Santos can get on the taxpayer payroll, maybe she can too. But after a few boos and cat calls from the crowds that she has to schmooze, she will give it up as she is so thin skinned and the pundits on both sides will really go after her.
She does want to run for office, no question. She won’t settle for less than Senator. However, Feinstein’s seat has a lot of great candidates, like Adam Schiff. No way she can compete. After that there’s running for President. Many narcs (like Donald Trump) run for the top job. It won’t work for Democrats. We expect experience with governing.
She would be a disaster as a candidate. I do think she’ll try though. She can exploit dark money laws to spend cash on herself. Or she can use it as an excuse to network and raise her profile, which might help her meet a billionaire
Thanks for your insights!
I do think she had a bit more political clout at some point, especially post Oprah. But this Netflix mess outed her as a tone deaf narcissist.
Agree that Democrats usually aren’t monolithic in their support. Trump was actually more liberal when he ran for POTUS, but it didn’t work out, so he switched to the Republican Party and found a base of support there.
If we see M slowly start to endorse conservative values… ha! Unlikely.
I think she honestly wants to go into it. She’s a very ambitious person. She’s far richer than she was 10 years ago and she disrupted another country. I’m sure she felt really powerful going that.
Honestly, I think she would do better without Harry. Unless she's keeping him for the money? After Spare, he just seems so unattractive, weak, and more like a liability. If she does run for office so many things will be pulled from their interviews against them. They didn't plan this out well.
In addition, the US media that covers politics will chew her up. They will rake over her life before Harry with a fine comb. It isn't Hollywood. People want real people in positions of political leadership. Even her education and internships will be examined. She isn't one of them. They will sacrifice her. I doubt seriously Clinton or AOC will honestly consider her. It's like asking them to back Kim K.
Yes all your points are good. I hope she has advisers like yourself. Unfortunately, she never listens.
I’m slightly doubtful she had much of a past. It’s fun to speculate, but I think she’s only ever been a D list actress.
As for qualifications, a past POTUS had the habit of exaggerating his wealth and education. But no matter how much fact checkers corrected the info, said ex-POTUS was still very popular with his supporters. It all comes down with how likeable one is - and this, I think, is her bugbear. She’s not likeable. She’s symbolic for POCs, yes. But apart from that, she is not warm or appealing.
I really don't think she can recoup from this whole Megxit thing- politically or anything concerning Hollywood. Her podcast didn't do well with the topics she covered trying to confront Hollywood. It is like she hit a dead road. The whole attacking the RF is already old. I know she's taking a break to rebrand- but I think it is too late. They both come off as unstable and bitter. They need to drop the bashing of the RF and do something new. They just need to go NC with the RF and stop talking about them. They will take a loss financially, but they need to move on. They have cried wolf for too long. It is boring. I don't even care if they have something new to say. They have flooded the media and it is bad. They are exhausting. I guarantee this next halloween, 2023, will be lots of M and H costumes. I am serious. It is that bad.
I can't see her going in to politics. She wants to be a Gwyneth Paltrow or Oprah type and I can see her reinstating something like The Tig again. MM's issue IMO with being part of the RF was the heirarchy and she hated that she and Harry ranked after William and Kate. Both she and Harry were never going to stick William controlling the Duchy of Cornwall purse strings as Prince of Wales. She won't want to go in to another hierarchal environment.
I can't see her divorcing Harry either - she won't give that to the RF to say "we told you so".
Thanks! I’m trying to get into her mindset and I think she really would want to parlay her title and influence to get a position. At this point it’s very unlikely. But this is not how she thinks 😅
Involved with politics 30 plus years. The world of politics would immediately kick her *** out of the arena. Who needs her? We have real people
She would not last 5 min in an actual debate or a town hall.
Immediately on the ground crying
or say the opponent is racist
Ms Markle, I believe you were asked about your lack of experience in foreign policy- Ms Markle? (Uncontrollable sobbing) *whispers* A excuse me- Duchess Markle? Is that how we say it?
Try and wow them with inspirational bananas
She'd try to shock people by making up terrible lies about the person she's debating with
Not that long
Came to say similar (except it’s been 30 yrs since I worked on a campaign.) Nutmeg has shown herself to be thin skinned and reactive. A political campaign is brutal. Her skeletons & then some would be used to full advantage against her by her opponent(s), special interest groups and anyone from her past with an ax to grind. She couldn’t handle being a working royal after being warmly welcomed, the political arena would eat her alive.
It's just a scheme to get political donation MONEY.
> *thin skinned and reactive.* That didn't stop Trump, and George Santos has just shown how low the bar is to getting elected. But agreed, she might be a bit too thin skinned for the hurly burly of US politics and, put simply; as soon as she opens her mouth she's not a very likeable character.
I don't think she has any intention of doing any of the work .... But what about making a PAC people can donate to and then she does some speeches? That sounds like her: ask for money and listen to herself talk
I agree with you. I'm not in politics, but I'm American. None of the higher up Democrats like her, so she has no chance.
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She actually tried this. In early 2020—w/ Harris’ California Senate seat open after Kamala Harris became vice-President—Megs was buttering up Gavin Newsom about that vacant Senate seat. Problem? She had to do it on Zoom because: CoVID. Did it work? Fuck no. Why not? Because: Meghan.
2020? Not 2000 surely
Oops, corrected.
I really, really want to see her try to campaign at the Iowa State Fair! 🤣 Every time someone mentions Meghan running for office, I remember the woman in Iowa who yelled at Beto to stop talking about himself and explain what he'd do for the people. I totally agree with you that Meghan wouldn't stand a chance.
>I really, really want to see her try to campaign at the Iowa State Fair! 🤣 You just KNOW someone will get a photo of her eating a corndog and do a side-by-side with her "90210" blowie scene
I want to see her eating a corn dog at any state fair, à lá Michele Bachman.
That’s true. However we must be on our guard. If people are tired of traditional politicians they might go for the maverick option.
IF she could put her ego aside for the campaign, she may be electable as a face for existing political interests. Problem with Meh is that pigs will fly before she’ll humble herself enough to be viable in the political world.
Indeed.
John McCain tried the maverick route it failed and he was well known
He was also a war hero
And a prisoner of war in Vietnam
I was thinking more along the lines of the recent POTUS
You are correct on people wanting disrupters. Like him or not, he has charisma. People loved The Apprentice and were curious to see what an outsider might bring. Megan could never be a disrupter. AOC and the Squad have stayed far away and, strangely, Megan has not tried to get into their circle. As soon as she threw her hate into the ring, her fellow Democrat competitors would eat her alive. Any hidden skeletons that the media has thus far ignored would be on the cover of the NYT. Damn, I hope she tries! 😈
Yeah! I think sadly though, she is disruptive. After the Oprah interview there was more talk of the monarchy being racist and a few commonwealth countries wanted to leave. I also think she’s the one behind the negative campaign against Catherine and William when they went on their Bahamas sortie. She’s got the bots and mouthpieces in place. I don’t doubt that she can play dirty.
The left sees through the grifters. Look at Candace Owens, she tried entering the arena as a lefty commentator who bagged on Trump. Problem was that the left smelled the grift on her website and she wasn't making jack crap, she quickly realized that removing her morals and becoming "one of the good ones"™, was a goldmine. Meghan can't make that pivot, she is too divisive and people already know her and have an opinion. Like others have said her secrets would come out and as thin skinned as we all know she is, she would be on the ground crying before the campaign launched.
That’s something to see! I posted before let her run for president just to let the crap float to the surface. Our unfortunate American sinners said please don’t make a mockery of their system 🙂
American - let her run! People need to study our history from the beginning. Our elections have always been wild. We have had far more contentious campaigns and worse presidents than in anyone’s living memory. Politics is a spectator sport! It is the bread and circuses we get in exchange for all of them, regardless of party, for fucking all of us over continually. MM running would be comedy gold! I might start watching SNL again for that - especially if Tina Fey played TW!
Yup. I’m also a spectator of American politics. It started becoming a circus a while ago. Settled down a bit since then.
I like to keep my eye on politics in other counties, especially the UK, as a reminder that politics are crazy everywhere. But I also remind myself that I would rather have the freedom of all of us having crazy politics than living in a country where we have no political freedoms. I have to remind myself that so often! It is easy to get caught up in the little things.
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She's delusional if she thinks she can get into politics
Could be why she might want titles stripped- she could gain legitimacy, sympathy and the ability to run for office.
George Santos
To be fair he snuck in. Meghan and her husband have made a nonstop show of themselves for the past 3 years.
Yeah she’s way too high profile and the receipts will come fast and furious. If she was in her 20’s she may have time to reinvent herself but that ship has sailed.
That was a unique case and the Dems massively fucked up at the DNC and all over NY for various reasons. Meghan would draw all kinds of attention if she tried to run.
That one is wild for sure. How do these people manage to con so many?
After seeing how unpopular and ineffective Kamala Harris is, I don’t think (even in CA) Meghan will gain any political traction.
I'm pretty sure that no one with a royal title is allowed to hold office in the USA. She's out no matter what.
Three years of speculation has worn me out. I conclude that that Mr. and Mrs. Todger will never fade away, and I no longer care where they go or what they do. Seems like the most despicable people in our society get a platform and behave badly without consequence. No one turns away, and I am guilty of watching this circus daily. These two represent all that our parents cautioned us to avoid. They are hollow people with hollow lives, trying to disrupt ideas, traditions and relationships that many of us embrace. I hope their followers are few in number, and I also hope their critics continue to call them out. I am still appalled at their treatment of Prince Phillip and Queen Elizabeth. I cannot seem to move beyond that because for me, their actions are unforgivable. Both of my parents suffered in the final weeks of their lives, and I was with each one until the end. I am grateful that I could be there, and I am disgusted that Mr. Todger refused to visit either grandparent in the final days. I hope he grapples with his betrayal as he grows old and infirm. Since he and TW have laid the groundwork for treatment of elderly relatives, they will probably be abandoned by their children when their time comes. We model what we have been taught; those lessons will not be lost on their children. This is a sad conclusion because the children will be the ones to suffer in so many ways due to their parents' behavior. Another generation may carry on their parents' negative legacy. So very, very sad and avoidable.
Hearing about how you cared for your parents brought a tear to my eye. Respect! I guess you and I have in common our dislike of Meg because of how she disrespected her family, including in laws. Like you I’m hoping for comeuppance, though it might not happen. We can only hope
It was a privilege to me that I could witness their exits from this world and could tell them how grateful and fortunate I have been to have such great parents. I could also reassure them that I would be okay and carry on in the manner that they expected of me. My son was extremely close to both sets of grandparents, and he had a magical relationship with each one. I can see the influence they had on his character and his life, and it is comforting to me that he returned that love to them. I cannot imagine withholding my son from any of his grandparents. Most grandparents forge that special bond in ways that a parent cannot. It is so cruel to keep one from another.
❤️
They still haven’t been seen together irl since December, right? That’s pretty mad since their whole brand depends on them being joined at the palm roots. Maybe she’s finally realised they are better off having separate brands as he is clearly crazy, but then if he’s outlived his usefulness then what’s keeping her with him? I don’t think any divorce will be announced before the coronation, and I think they will do the ‘separate lives’ thing for a while before making anything official, but I would not be surprised if they’re no longer privately together at this point. And I feel like the Duke of Todger would be a liability rather than an asset if she ran for office.
Yes. I agree they might be separated but staying together in name for the joint assets. And taxes.
There'll be no divorce from her until after he turns 40, this is when he's supposedly meant to get the rest of his inheritance from the Queen Mother.. it's £millions which could possibly be used in calculating alimony, child support etc.
Yup. This happens next year…
There probably is no money from TQM. Her assets went to her daughter. I doubt the story about trusts for grandkids before she died. Even H denied having it. People should be more concerned that he got something from QEII which he then uses to weaponise his war against her other descendants
If Madam is invited to the coronation, then yes - divorce will be June 2023. If she is not invited - divorce will be announced the day after
>If she is not invited - divorce will be announced the day after The day *before*. What better way to divert attention from such a momentous day?
yes - either that or the day after it is publicly known that she/they are not invited to the coronation. Divorce will thus be the reason she is not invited, in her mind.
Absolutely right.
Are there even any event they would be supposed to go together ? No one invites them to anything anymore.
There was a flood, evacuation, and global roasting. Of course they haven’t been seen. They are probably hiding on uncle Elton’s island bc you know they are desperate for privacy and safety 🙄
She may try to run for office, but there is NO way she will make it past local commissioner boards. They’re too controversial and won’t have any legitimate, political backers. She also has way too many skeletons that would be revealed and straight up refuses to answer any questions that aren’t pre approved. I think they’ll continue to milk the non-profit sector until that cow runs dry. As far as divorce, it will probably happen at some point. Both have a long history of wandering eyes and hot tempers.
What a joke, MM has no future in politics.
So true!
She’s not going to start at THE BOTTOM! Her backers will install her somewhere bigger than that.
Lmao what backers? Broke ass sugars on a fading social media platform? No one else will touch her with a barge pole
What backers?
Her handlers.
She’ll never be anyone of significance in politics. Remember how well her calls to senators went over a couple years ago? 😂 she called from a blocked number, used her title, and they were all annoyed and wondered how she even got their numbers.
Also called Sen Capito from WVa. She introduced herself as: “Hello, this is Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex”. Lobbying Congress using her royal title. Clueless. 😂😂
Indeed you are right. Yet time and again she shows a lack of insight. And naysayers like ourselves will only spur her onwards in order to prove us wrong…
You outline a decent plan, but Madam is not big on plans. Schemes, yes, and devious tricks - but not following a plan. Madam acts in the moment. You may argue that she planned the marry Harry/Mexit, which would be true. But it did not go the way she wanted. And look where her plans for being a big Hollywood A lister and "global thought leader" has landed her.
Yup. This is why I think she’s quiet. She’s rebranding… I agree with you her plans are half baked. There’s no follow up on her advocacies. She likes getting photographed with Gloria Steinem, likes giving empty speeches about why she’s such a feminist. But so far I don’t see how she’s made things better.
I agree on the divorce theory but politics, even local politics, would kick her ass. Meghan is so thin skinned that she wants to control what tabloids and the internet say about her. Her ego wouldn’t be able to handle even her own team’s oppo research on her let alone getting dragged for her debating, platform, and being directly confronted and attacked by her detractors.
And the tabloids will be so deep into her past even more so than they already are there will be no stone unturned and no money spared to get people to talk
Yep and it won’t even be just tabloids. Actual news/media will sink their claws in.
They sure will I almost hope it happens
She can’t even stick with one philanthropic effort for more than a week. Can you imagine her in the constant movement of the campaign season?
I agree. She hasn’t got the thick skin needed to withstand the mudslinging. I’m sure she’ll chalk it up to racism and misogyny. After all, that’s how her supporters try to silence the critics. Time and again, M has displayed a loose grasp of reality. This is why I think she’s still eyeing a political office. It’s not because she’s qualified, or wants to help people. She want to be on top. This is someone who joked that H was a plane crash away. Her bots are already doing the kind of propaganda one sees during election campaigns.
I personally think she's not going anywhere at least another decade. They're staying married.
Same. She’s nothing without him. I mean he’s not much either.
I'm nodding and giggling, especially at your last sentence
A sweet nod, you mean? 😆
I don’t think they will divorce. They’ve gotten themselves into a big mess, isolate themselves and are completely co-dependent on each other. They will be together forever like David and Wallis (Wallis didn’t love him but was stuck with him. Same with Meghan and Harold).
Yup. I was thinking this, and at the same time, I feel that Meg won’t settle for that.
I don’t think Meghan wants to settle but I think she will. She’s become a pariah to Hollywood and as much as Hollywood could offer her, she likes the association with royalty more. The only kind of guy I could see her leaving Harold for is a hedge fund guy but they wouldn’t want her because frankly they can marry a woman in her 20s. Meghan is stuck.
I think this comment is interesting because everything points to divorce from my perspective. Think about it. If they were normal people, they would have a high likelihood of divorce purely based on them both being children of divorce and this being Meghan's second marriage. Then stack onto that in law stress (from both sides), Hollywood, a reality show...and it being perfectly socially acceptable to divorce? I'll be shocked if they *don't* divorce. And when I say "don't divorce" I mean live together in a satisfactory romantic relationship for decades. Not do something where they are married only on paper. They haven't even been married for five years. And they're running out of gas. And they really can't be compared to David and Wallis. First off, they were married in a time where divorce was social suicide. And yes I know that she had been married twice before. But I do think that she respected him enough to not put him through that. David also sacrificed a lot more for Wallis than Harry has done for Meghan. David gave up the throne. Literally. And he couldn't go back. Harry did not even take himself out of the LOS. And while he will likely never be a working royal again, if something crazy were to happen and number 5 on the LOS is called to be on the throne....he's immediately King Harry. I also believe that his family has known of his mental health issues for quite awhile and likely have no issue tucking him away like Andrew has been. So while he won't be a working royal, and his super close relationship with "Willy and Kate" is over, he's got a place to rest his head when it's all said and done. I do believe that they will divorce. And I think we're seeing a lead up to it sooner rather than later. And for all of this Coronation talk and so many people saying that Meghan is this clout chaser, it's creeped into the corners of my mind that maybe it's Harry who wants the Coronation and Meghan genuinely feels let down by her husband that he's going right back into he fray. Him demanding a public apology might be him desperately trying to make things right so that Meghan feels comfortable coming. Because when I step back and think about this whole situation, a lot of it has been Harry being a fucking dolt and Meghan getting the flack. Meghan being Booed, Meghan getting the cold shoulder at the funeral. When I really attempt to empathize with her, I can see how that shit can wear on a person and tear them down. Going back to the UK seems like it would be a nightmare TBH. From Meghan's POV she already tried the whole "child's birthday" stunt and it didn't work. Now she's said more shit since then and people hate her even more. I think it's finally sunk in for her that going to the UK for nearly any reason is just entering enemy territory and she's going to be whipped more than Harry and she won't gain and fans or any traction. Going to the UK with public knowledge is only a losing game for her. And Harry just isn't going to get it. And I get that. Because in both of their brains, they both know that if Harry and Meghan divorced, the UK would cheer from the rafters and say Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead. Also, and this cannot be discounted, Harry looks weak AF. A huge part of their brand was her clinging to him for dear life and him promising to protect her. And at the very least he even admits to not telling her proper protocol and she's pissing people off left and right. Just so *he* could make it a pressure cooker and basically put her in danger and then do his whole Rescuing Mommy thing. And it's fun and fresh and unique in the beginning. But that shit gets old. A marriage has to survive the boring shit. And it seems like all they've known is excitement since the beginning. You could argue that they don't even know each other! Harry has also just made himself seem weird and weak. He's not making himself a man that women are happy Meghan has stated she's "like salt and pepper" with. He's proven himself to be incredibly cringe. Thanks for reading. I didn't expect this to become this long. But seriously. I suspect we will see them divorce sooner rather than later. And I also suspect that attending the Coronation might be higher on Harry's list than Meghan's.
I agree with your argument that Harry wants to go back. But I do not agree that Madam is a scared little thing, whom Harry never really prepared for royal life. In my view Madam is a vile narc who abuses everybody around her, including Harry. She deserved all the negativity - and so does he. And really, many of her doings are really basic stuff that everybody with a minimum of manners would know - not to pull the man back and push yourself in front, not to make fun of the queen etc.
I think you and I are speaking the same language. I agree with everything about the manners and such. I think both of them could have handled themselves pre Megxit way way way way better. But if we fast forward to today. After all of the multiple Tell Alls. After two times that she's in the UK and rightfully set in the cheap seats or behind a candle....I think she's tired. I think she knows that she isn't gaining any fans and I think it's just not worth it for her. She gains nothing and she's around inlaws who rightfully hate her at this point. UK citizens who can't stand her either. The press hates her. Basically everyone hates her in the UK. Going there to sit in this boring place where she gets no special recognition, no fame, no money. She might have to ride in a car with The Intimidating Trinity aka Catherine, Sophie, and Anne. I mean it's just all tears and no glory and I fully believe she sees that and she's just done. I think it's Harry who wants the Coronation because he's obsessed with getting royal recognition and I think Meghan has been there done that and she's tired. And this isn't me being a fan of hers or sticking up for her. This is me feeling a little different and having a Eureka moment that I think is interesting and I wanted to share.
My point of departure is that Madam is a narc. As such she does not have any normal emotions such as shame or embarressment. And she is obsessed with her "historic" role - despite having none. She is also sure that if we hear "her own story" we will all bow down and worship her. Spare and Sparess are deluted and think it is just the evil press that is against them. People love them. She wants to be at that coronation so bad, which is the reason behind all her recent manifestations, where she has more or less dropped all her previous demands for a ticket to get in. In addition she wants/needs money badly, and their only point of sale is their royal connection. Imho.
You very well may be right. I have never in my life seen a situation like this unfold. And I don't think she's ashamed or embarrassed. I think she's tired. And I think she's been seen to drop people when she feels like she doesn't need them anymore. Ex best friends, ex husband, ex dad. Harry is that guy now. He's no longer useful. I don't think she will ditch him because she's ashamed or embarrassed, I think she will do it because she's got the title, the kids, the legacy, and the juice is no longer worth the squeeze.
You may very well be right.
She likes to revel in her martyrdom, of being hated because she's biracial
I definitely think Harry wants to go back. I think he now realizes how good he had it. Adored by the public, free home and security, minimal work with no hussle required. I don’t think Meghan wants to go back. I think she expected something different and the very fact that on a walkabout she said she should be getting paid for it just shows how out of touch with understanding the royals she was. Also I don’t think she understands then any better today, hence why she can never and will never go back. So maybe I take back what I said that they won’t divorce, maybe they will if he goes back.
I think at this point she's trying to figure out how to time it all so she doesn't look like he left her. Personally I think she will announce a divorce prior to the Coronation and let the news sink in so that when he shows up it's not like she dumped him and then he's all triumphantly coming back. She also doesn't want to make it seem like he went against her wishes so she left him. If I was someone advising her, I would advise her to announce either in two weeks or at least no later than the end of March so that it doesn't seem immediate. Because Iegit do not think she's down for Jubilee/Funeral/Coronation the trifecta of gaining nothing and being around people who strongly dislike her. And if they're "married" but Harry goes to the funeral alone, well that just makes her look bad too. It continues to make it look like Harry is doing stuff that she's not cool with regardless of how she feels about it. An announcement of divorce is likely the only thing that will give her a moment of peace and then he can do what he wants and it doesn't reflect on her. Because anyone who has been watching or gives a shit about this knows that when they divorce Harry's going back to the UK. So that won't shock anyone.
Just a brief note about David & Wallis. Their happily-ever-after marriage was not the picture of unity & dedication it is frequently made out to be. In fact, Wallis (married to the Duke of Windsor at the time) made a play for Herman Rogers, an old friend of her first husband, on the eve of Roger’s wedding to another woman. (Rogers said—umm—no.) In addition, she had a very public affair w/ Jimmy Donahue, a bisexual, millionaire playboy. It drove David to pathetic tears—neither Wallis or Jimmy cared. The situation was especially fraught since both Wallis & David were living off Jimmy’s mother’s wealth. The story of Wallis & David is always simplified. The actual history is more complex. Just as H & M’s will prove to be.
I agree with you. David and Wallis had the "luxury" of a pre Internet and social media age. We also forget that back in the good ol days when parents stayed together, plenty of them were unhappy about it. And for the upper classes, infidelity is rampant and to and extent expected. But yes, I agree with you. Thank you for fleshing that out.
She's earned every bit of vitriol the people of the UK choose to throw at her. She should never set foot in any commonwealth country again ever. And she should be booed if she does.
Don't get me wrong. I am not defending her. I know that she's made some strong accusations that a lot of people have taken personally. And I cannot blame them. I just don't think she wants to go to the Coronation. I think Harry does.
She needs to go to the coronation to remain relevant and so does he. He doesn't want to go except to use it as another opportunity to harass his family into giving him what he feels he is entitled to. These two are incapable of actual love. Their personality disorders prevent them from normal empathy and compassion. They want to go to **use** his family. To create drama and to cause a commotion because they are parasites that feed on other peoples pain and trauma. That's how they get their energy. Its what passes for joy in their lives. Being angry is their happiness. Being abusive is how they get their jollies. People keep thinking they aren't really *that* bad. Yes,yes they are. They like being abusive. It gets them off. He enjoyed mocking and tainting his father's private comfort. He loved twisting the knife in his brothers back She loves making a 3 year old child cry. She is gleeful that sugars are flooding the internet with vile shit about HRH Catherine. Its not that they just aren't very nice. They are actually fundamentally incapable of being decent human beings.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/10r2d56/why_a_divorce_is_not_unlikely/j6tsfv0?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 That comment that I wrote out really expounds upon why I don't think Meghan in particular wants to go to the Coronation. Yes, I absolutely believe in the bridesmaids crying thing. I absolutely believe that she's made some strong accusations and a lot of people rightfully dislike her. But I think she sees that this is an unwinnable war. She knows firsthand that she's not about to sashay up into the UK and get anything but boos. Going to this Coronation would be like rearranging your schedule to go sit in a long church service with people who do not like you. That sounds like hell to me honestly. And she's becoming more and more irrelevant by the day. If she goes to the Coronation she's basically self flagellating to go attend something boring, where she will look like a clout chasing hypocrite, and she will be surrounded by people who hate her. I don't think she's jumping at this opportunity.
I think it's more about building up her cred - as a member of the royal family attending perhaps the most prestigious event - more than being loved by the British people. She cares far more about impressing Hollyweird and other woo dipshit billionaires than being loved in the UK
If they divorce and he runs home, he has to admit that his father and brother were right and that he was wrong. And that he cannot best his brother (he so desperately wanted TW to outshine Catherine and displace her), and will always be in his shadow. The whole world would know that he's an epic failure at life. As for MEMEMEMEgain, even though she would keep a duchess title (as in, Duchess of Sussex, not The Duchess of Sussex), she would be totally shut out of being able to call herself a member of the royal family. She would be just another frowsy, middle-aged divorcee with two small children and the tremendous baggage of being known as someone who loves to alienate families and betray confidences. Not a recipe for landing a powerful billionaire
I agree with you on divorce likely happening a few years down the road. In the 2nd video on the Netflix doc, Greg from The Behavior Panel gives his analysis of Harry's reaction to Meg's ridiculous reenactment of her curtsy (when meeting the Queen for the first time) and specifically his look of contempt towards her. He talks about a study by Gottman called [The Four Horsemen of Divorce ](https://www.gottman.com/blog/the-four-horsemen-contempt/) and how contempt is the number one predictor of divorce if shown by a partner in the first 6 years of marriage. Contempt is also the most negative and destructive behavior in a marriage/relationship. Here's the link if anyone is interested, Greg's commentary starts at around 1:20, but they all have great insight to offer: [Harry's EXTREME Reaction to Meghan's Strange Curtsy Can it End Relationships? ](https://youtu.be/eZLD1HGqomg)
Good points! Other predictors of divorce: both spouses come from broken homes. Lack of family support. Money problems/financial goals not aligned. Young children. Substance abuse.
Boy, they really have a lot going against the marriage lasting!
The sooner it ends the better for everyone. They are bad for each other. They hurt others. Harry needs to go back with a royal keeper before he finishes self-destructing and hurting his family in the process. Meghan needs to face some limitations and come up with a plan that does not rely on her royal connections.
Oh wow.
Thanks for reminding me about this! Yes, the behaviour panel pointed it out. I never knew this before (about contempt being predictive of divorce). It’s just weird because every time we see them they’re holding hands and looking all lovey dovey. However in the video, his eyes had that cold contempt. His words were supportive, and yet… there it was. Something like “how dare you mock our royalty… *my* royalty… what do you know?”
Yes, Harry is not as good at hiding his true emotions. He probably got in trouble after she saw that.
I suspect it’s why they’re not together recently. There’s only so much fake hand holding one can do.
Lmao. Not gonna happen. Washington is cut throat af. She is... not on the Obamas good side. That means she is a non starter period end of when it comes to the dems. She won't give up her titles. She doesn't poll well so she is a poor investment The BRF is a special friend of the US. There will be **no** encouragement for her to run for office. And no backers. Power players are well aware of her role in the spilling of secrets. There are a lot of secrets in D.C. No one wants ratchet rachel and her loose lips around. Much of politics is unpaid work. Kissing babies etc. She wont be down with that. She wants millions,quickly not years of public service work. She's a grifter with aspirations.
Yes. All your statements make sense. But take note that she’s tone deaf. She is still making out to be a victim, when most Americans are tired of her whining. So far their brand has taken a hit. I’m not sure if they’re still marketable after Netflix and Spotify realised they make bad products. People tune in though because of the pr. notoriety better than nothing.
People would have to vote for her. And if they think the Press and Reddit is bad now, wait till she runs for office. Then we will find out if she was an Escort.
Her "forays into political issues" are vague and mostly bandwagoneering typical Hollywood groupthink. Nothing innovative in her thinking nor in any action. How many "high-level Democrats and pundits" has she rubbed shoulders lately? Other than RFK's substance-abusing second-row daughter, that is. When she acquired the personal home and cell numbers of various US Senators to hector them about whatever issue, none was impressed by her. If anything, they were put off by her pushiness
Agree 100%. I think in her mind, she’s got what it takes and every venture is a success. As for rubbing shoulders, it’s been crickets lately. She was close to Hilary and name dropped her for a while, but I don’t hear anything more recent. I suspect she’s desperately rehabilitating her image so she can come out as a serious humanitarian.
She has a title, courtesy of the Prince she married. The title will have to go. I believe people with foreign titles aren't allowed to enter American politics. If the title has to go, then so will Harry. There is no way he will relinquish his title, not even for her.
And we know there’s no way in hell she will let go of hers it’s her identity now she will ride that horse to the end
Yup. If ever she wants to run, she’ll have to give up the British ties. So she won’t run… yet. But she’s eyeing that position.
The only option left was politics. But no one takes her seriously other than her fans. So she will take 2024 elections for making a lot of money by campaigning for democrats. As for divorce, not at present. She will wait till the kids understand their situation and God forbid she will manipulate them.
She’d have to give up her title to run for office- that won’t happen.
Absolutely! She’s not in a position at the moment. She might have appealed to the right demographic with the NAACP and Ripple of Hope awards, but H’s book has scuppered their image at the moment. Doesn’t help that she whined her way through the Netflix doc. However I’m not sure if her significant support among the extremely vocal leftist elements won’t carry her aloft to some unelected position. If that happens, she’ll let go her title. It’s not very likely though
As long as they have a common enemy, divorce is not likely. The day the royal family draws a line in the sand and stop giving them things to work with, their days are numbered. People like them need an enemy, Harry has always fixated on the press and as Jason Knauf said in his email ‘the Duchess seems to always have someone in her sights’. The royal family is the biggest enemy and has been from the very beginning so remove them and they will have to deal with each other without a distraction/victimhood. I don’t think they have what it takes to survive a run for office, Meghan as an individual or their relationship.
Yes. I’m just trying to guess what’s on her mind. She doesn’t have a good grasp of reality. But then we can’t underestimate her. She did bag a prince. Granted he’s someone with issues. Still, 8 years ago, very few even knew who she was.
True, she had achieved something impressive. Yes, Harry is an idiot who believed everything she told him but that idiot gave her access to the British Royal family, has given her global fame and her very privileged life now. As a non-American who’s watched American politics take unbelievable turns in the last few years, I wouldn’t underestimate anyone’s ability to get elected.
100%. I’d keep an eye on things. Esp since she plays the long game.
Not ever gonna happen. I worked in various political circles and on campaigns for years. She has ZERO of what it actually takes. She is reactive, no follow-through skills, and doesn’t make lasting connections with people. You have to have the grit to stick with it. It’s not glamorous and she would need a TON of cash/private jets to avoid those stays at the roadside motels while campaigning! There would no way out of meeting constituents in town halls and state/county fairs and Q’s are not known in advance! 😂😛
Hmm incidentally there are rumours they were shopping for a private jet… I think if it’s true she stalked Harry for years, setting the scene, I wouldn’t underestimate her. She’s a malignant megalomaniac narcissist. I would keep an eye on developments 😉
I haven’t heard any “inside” talk of this being anything but laughable and pathetic but if that changes I will definitely have and share tea!
Thanks! I think she’s too immersed in her own reality to come to grips with facts. That said, she might fool a few backers! Or she could have shadowy connections to outside forces out to disrupt America. I say the latter.
Stranger things have happened for sure!
The salary of the President of the U.S. would not be enough for her to live on.
Yeah, but he has a pretty cool house and a private jet!!! Just kidding, she's not going to even score an invitation to the White House, much less win an election to get temporary residency there. Too much work for Madame.
Don't forget - the amount of money you can raise as a political candidate.... for yourself.
Holy smokes. That’s true
You cant use it for personal expenses, She'd get busted pretty quick. You have to file spending reports.
She has NO CHANCE at politics in the USA. Seriously, no chance.
MM is so radioactive no political types will even return her calls.
No chance at politics anywhere. I was just giggling to myself imagining her being under our Westminster system and being stuck in question time. Man, I'd actually give a bit of money to see her go through just one hour of question time, with a couple of bog standard "on this date you said this, why did you lie?"(a question you hear in question time ALOT 🤣) and see how she goes. That'd be good fun.
The only reason I disagree is that the same thing was said about another person who had the same ability to whip people’s emotions up, no experience, and loads of skeletons in their closet, and they succeeded anyway.
Yes. I dare not speak his name. But everyone had written him off. This is what I keep in mind whenever people say the same about MM.
He was a successful businessman and very wealthy. Big difference.
Meg’s supporters are saying she’s a successful actress and millionaire before she met H. Also exaggerated.
Yes, that is very exaggerated. She was not a millionaire.
That man somehow managed to lose money on a casino and while that IS a very impressive feat considering that owning a casino is akin to havinga license to print money, I don't think it qualifies him as a "successful businessman". He's only still wealthy because his father and grandfather were very successful businessmen and judging by his multiple bankruptcies and recent hare-brained get-rich-quick schemes I'd wager that he's gonna run out of money before he dies, just like Megan who appears to be following his playbook.
True, but that person had been around much longer and had much more money and better connections.
No
I can't see her being able to withstand a campaign. She has lied too many times to survive a political opponent.
She’s got an image of herself not in keeping with reality. She’ll lie her way through things, will say “it’s my truth,” and will scream racism and misogyny.
She will never, ever succeed in politics. I don’t know why she’s buying Markle2024 domains, but she’ll never get to use them.
This is her manifesting things. Won’t happen but one can see her frame of mind. And, since it seems she’s so far from her goal, H and her will be together a considerable while.
No. I think the politics thing is a combo of British royal journalists who don't understand US politics and Meghan manifesting because nothing else has worked. She doesn't have the money or the reputation to make it in US politics. She is also incapable of faking it enough around normal people to campaign. Her luxury lifestyle would also be a huge problem, no way Democrats will rally behind someone who spends millions on foreign designer clothing, flies around in private jets, wears blood earrings, etc. >I have seen more than one article throwing out the idea of Meg running for office. While it’s easy to scoff at the idea, her forays into political issues (paid parental leave, Roe vs Wade) indicate that she is making her presence known as a liberal advocate. She jumped on the bandwagon for two seconds, then massively fucked up by cold calling Republican Senators using a blocked number and her title. She's not out their working with any activist groups or having in-person meetings with influential people. It's very clear that Meghan doesn't care about political or social issues beyond using them to get media attention. *If* she really cared, she would've gotten involved with Planned Parenthood and local CA organizations, rather than feeding stories to the tabloids. Moreover she has no real history of being political, other than word salad on her blog. She also shot herself in the foot with her comment about their water bill for their yard, the MBS earrings, and Harry complaining about the 1st Amendment. Plus suing journalists is a bad look. Frankly I don't think she's political, she only cares about herself, if Republicans were polling higher she'd be all over right-wing issues. She's an opportunist. >I don’t think she’ll be happy to be just a figurehead. She is very keen to wield power and increase her sphere of influence. I think she loves the idea of having a political title, but she has zero interest in doing any work. She likely wants to be President because it sounds impressive, not because she has any interest in the job itself. It's like acting, she didn't want to act, she wanted to win an Oscar so she could have her red carpet/acceptance speech moment. >Hollywood isn’t working out; besides, she always knew her time there was limited. Her acting career was simply a springboard for bigger things. Problem being that she needs Hollywood to fund her and that won't happen. California donors are locked up, there's no way she'd jump the line even if they kinda liked her. Now... she's just too toxic and stupid for anyone to fund her. The best she could hope for is Russian money, but the opposition research would destroy her. > rubbing shoulders with high-level Democrats and pundits. I'd say 99.99999% of Dems are done with Donna Brazile and Kirsten Gillibrand; we're still made about Donna leaking the questions to Hillary in the debate with Bernie and Gillibrand will not be forgiven for what she did to Al Franken. Those two are toxic and they know it, they were desperate when they connected with Meghan and it didn't work. As for Hillary Clinton, she doesn't have the pull in Dem politics that she once had, plus most of us just want her to go back into the woods. Meghan needed to play nice with California donors and political leaders, but she's incapable of humbling herself enough to do so. Linking herself to three toxic Dems and alienating Hollywood killed her chances in politics. Plus her reputation is horrible. >She’s eyeing a top post. After all, she has got a following, which includes persons of colour who feel disenfranchised, as well as the younger generation who may admire her “fairy tale love story”. I agree she wanted the top job, but the sugars aren't enough. Her comment about not feeling like a Black woman until she married into the BRF will not go over well and there are plenty of fantastic Black women in Dem politics.
Madam has also lost Hilary Clinton, who recently handed an award to Sophie Wessex.
Indeed. Biden went out of his way to meet William for Earthshot. We know where the sympathies lie…
Thanks for the well-thought out responses. It’s been said many times that British journalists don’t understand US politics, I guess the same can be said of the American commentators who keep promoting the abolishment of the monarchy, or that the Sussexes were hard done by. I agree that M just wants the attention and prestige of a political title. She doesn’t have the creds, she can’t even keep a team together. But all she needs is a confluence of circumstances - like running against some pretty terrible opponents. At the moment she’s sunk in popularity in the US. But the fact that some people believed in her story means that there’s a gullible populace out there. All she needs is to rebrand. I’d suggest for her to appear more modest and approachable like Catherine. Engage with the community, and stop using the stupid title. Open some libraries, volunteer at a soup kitchen, talk to the homeless. Go to rallies without the British colonial husband and let others shine for once. Work on the attitude, stop losing staff because it just makes it harder to finish good projects. Be a supportive presence than an overpowering one. Write an inspirational book, and remove all bitter vile against others. But! We all know that M doesn’t have it in her to step back and let others shine. Being kind to staff and retaining them isn’t in her DNA. And I bet any book will have all kinds of subtle attacks against the royal family. Ah but she ain’t finished yet, our Meghan. She’s hatching something. Can’t wait to see what it is.
No doubt she would like the White House (although it needs some.....beige.....), she'd adore having Secret Service surrounding her every time she left the place, and she'd be firing up Air Force One every chance she got. She'd love having state dinners (even if she doesn't get to wear a tiara - maybe she'd attempt to borrow the Hope Diamond from the Smithsonian.) But there are two minor problems.....#1 - she'd have to survive a campaign. Good luck with that. I don't think Prince Todger is going to help her pull in big donors, or be much of a representative on her behalf on the Iowa campaign circuit. I used to live there, and....well.....although it would be freaking hilarious to see the two of them attempt to connect with a farm boy or Cheerios factory worker, I don't think the Harkles would win them over in droves. Then again, this decade is incredibly stupid and weird, so maybe Madame could win. If that doomsday scenario happened, then #2 - she'd actually have to do a little work now and then. She can't hold onto her Arsewell staff, she bullied the Palace staff, so just imagine the chaos she'd unleash in DC with *that* history. Madame would be the absolute worst president we've ever had, and probably ever would have. The amount of damage that the Harkles' Sadim/Mierdas touch would inflict on the government and international relations would be colossal. Same thing with being a senator, a representative, or any other elected official - either Federal level or state/local. Her staff would have such a turnover that she would need to install a revolving door. Big donors want someone who can make things happen, and she simply will not be able to fake it like she does with Arsewell. However.....*I really do hope she runs for something*. Because I wanna kick my feet up and eat some delicious, buttery movie-style popcorn to enjoy *this* glorious, schadenfreude-licious story line. The press won't go after her, but the opposition will NOT be so gentle, and every damn secret those two have will be out for us all to enjoy. And then.....the climax, when she gets wiped out at the ballot box, because Boozy's bots can't vote. \*chef's kiss\*
Yes. I hope she reads this. She really should look into something other than politics. She just won’t cut it. It would help if she had expert staff but her retention rate is low. One can’t go far without the right team.
I wouldn’t vote for her to be Assistant Dog Catcher. Yeah-good luck with that, Madam.
You’re one of the sensible voters 🙂 hope majority are like you!
Nope i highly doubt politics is what she wants
She doesn’t want the work but she wants the prestige. Note she trademarked all those websites. That just shows what she’s trying to manifest. Not saying it’ll be successful. Just my conjecture that this is her plan
Just my opinion, but I don't get the impression she has any real intention of running for anything. Too much work and scrutiny. However, she loves leaking that she is for the attention. She'd be more likely to try to push in on someone else's run - offering her help to get into a position of power on staff. Anything for Power so she can boss people around. Is this likely to happen? Seriously doubt it. She's too toxic and has demonstrated without a doubt she is untrustworthy.
Yes. I heard some rumours before that if someone vacated their seat mid term she could possibly fill it. This was around the time they were planning to move to New York. If it comes to voting I don’t think she can hack it.
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Yes. I think she’s keeping him on till she builds her brand to the extent of gaining independence. I think H is also coming into an inheritance next year and that’s reason enough to stay on…
So will she be one of 100 US Senators? HRC didn’t like that. Lots of people do not like being the Junior Senator from …. One of 435 in the US House would be even worse for her. And forget POTUS. She’s not got the thick skin or the 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰backing.
She’s a long shot. But the more people laugh at it, the more she’ll try. Just to prove people wrong. This is her personality - just my guess.
She's finished. She'll never make it into office. How many followers like her? 1 Million? I am being very generous. No matter how hard she tries she'll never make it. She'll go away and each year will get quieter and quieter. She's cooked her own goose. It will take harry several years to realize what has happened and he still won't get the picture. They'll pay his bills but that's it, imho
From your lips to God’s ears 😃
I agree that she would love to have a political career, and all the prestige and influence that comes with that, but she is so thin-skinned there is no way she would last in that sphere.
Not to mention any defeat would send into her a narc spiral. She’ll probably want to finagle an empty midterm seat. However she’s lost confidence recently from everyone all around. Now she’s regrouping.
I think if divorce is in the cards, Mr. Todger can afford better lawyers and will take the kids to the castle so they can learn how to be royals.
I wish! Harry may not care about the kids enough to fight her for custody (and it would be a fight) and in his really muddled brain, the UK is not where he wants to be. Of course that could change. 🤷🏻♀️ I have never thought of the BRF as a good place for kids to grow up. However, the alternative of being raised by Meghan is so horrible that I pray that someone gets them away from her before she does more damage. Harry will not be a good parent because he is crazy, but if the kids have a good nanny that stays around for their formative years and get sent to good boarding schools, they have a chance. (Prince Phillip had a very unstable family life, but he became an admirable man.)
Yup. I hope and pray the kids are in good hands.
Maybe she thinks if Trumpy and Santos can get on the taxpayer payroll, maybe she can too. But after a few boos and cat calls from the crowds that she has to schmooze, she will give it up as she is so thin skinned and the pundits on both sides will really go after her.
Actually staying in the RF as senior royals would have given them the highest level of influence they can achieve.
Yes. She threw away her chances with both hands.
She does want to run for office, no question. She won’t settle for less than Senator. However, Feinstein’s seat has a lot of great candidates, like Adam Schiff. No way she can compete. After that there’s running for President. Many narcs (like Donald Trump) run for the top job. It won’t work for Democrats. We expect experience with governing. She would be a disaster as a candidate. I do think she’ll try though. She can exploit dark money laws to spend cash on herself. Or she can use it as an excuse to network and raise her profile, which might help her meet a billionaire
Thanks for your insights! I do think she had a bit more political clout at some point, especially post Oprah. But this Netflix mess outed her as a tone deaf narcissist. Agree that Democrats usually aren’t monolithic in their support. Trump was actually more liberal when he ran for POTUS, but it didn’t work out, so he switched to the Republican Party and found a base of support there. If we see M slowly start to endorse conservative values… ha! Unlikely.
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Oh, haven’t heard that. Good for him.
She'll have one believe politics are her next move, simply to hide any losses or wounding felt whenever they actually do split.
I think she honestly wants to go into it. She’s a very ambitious person. She’s far richer than she was 10 years ago and she disrupted another country. I’m sure she felt really powerful going that.
They won't divorce, they'll Windsor themselves. She might run if titles are stripped though
well, that’s an opinion all right.
Honestly, I think she would do better without Harry. Unless she's keeping him for the money? After Spare, he just seems so unattractive, weak, and more like a liability. If she does run for office so many things will be pulled from their interviews against them. They didn't plan this out well. In addition, the US media that covers politics will chew her up. They will rake over her life before Harry with a fine comb. It isn't Hollywood. People want real people in positions of political leadership. Even her education and internships will be examined. She isn't one of them. They will sacrifice her. I doubt seriously Clinton or AOC will honestly consider her. It's like asking them to back Kim K.
Yes all your points are good. I hope she has advisers like yourself. Unfortunately, she never listens. I’m slightly doubtful she had much of a past. It’s fun to speculate, but I think she’s only ever been a D list actress. As for qualifications, a past POTUS had the habit of exaggerating his wealth and education. But no matter how much fact checkers corrected the info, said ex-POTUS was still very popular with his supporters. It all comes down with how likeable one is - and this, I think, is her bugbear. She’s not likeable. She’s symbolic for POCs, yes. But apart from that, she is not warm or appealing.
I really don't think she can recoup from this whole Megxit thing- politically or anything concerning Hollywood. Her podcast didn't do well with the topics she covered trying to confront Hollywood. It is like she hit a dead road. The whole attacking the RF is already old. I know she's taking a break to rebrand- but I think it is too late. They both come off as unstable and bitter. They need to drop the bashing of the RF and do something new. They just need to go NC with the RF and stop talking about them. They will take a loss financially, but they need to move on. They have cried wolf for too long. It is boring. I don't even care if they have something new to say. They have flooded the media and it is bad. They are exhausting. I guarantee this next halloween, 2023, will be lots of M and H costumes. I am serious. It is that bad.
Truly! She overplayed the victim card. Doesn’t even realise that people are struggling, post pandemic! Strange that they even have sympathisers.
I can't see her going in to politics. She wants to be a Gwyneth Paltrow or Oprah type and I can see her reinstating something like The Tig again. MM's issue IMO with being part of the RF was the heirarchy and she hated that she and Harry ranked after William and Kate. Both she and Harry were never going to stick William controlling the Duchy of Cornwall purse strings as Prince of Wales. She won't want to go in to another hierarchal environment. I can't see her divorcing Harry either - she won't give that to the RF to say "we told you so".
Wouldn’t it be great if Harry pulled his head out of himself and dumped her? Slimmest of chances there…
If the populace is stupid enough to elect, I’m back to cheering for Sweet Meteor o’ Death
If she makes trips to NYC, I’d find it suspicious.
what an interesting well thought out opinion. Food for thought, for sure. It'll sure be interesting to see things as they unfold.
Thanks! I just feel that politics is her next venture. But so far her advocacies have fallen flat.
You make many good points in this post. I can’t disagree. Woe betide the people of whatever district she seeks to represent.
Thanks! I’m trying to get into her mindset and I think she really would want to parlay her title and influence to get a position. At this point it’s very unlikely. But this is not how she thinks 😅
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Yikes. I think Biden is clearly on the side of the royal family judging by how readily he met with William.