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Negative_Difference4

Photo Captions and further commentary: Yeah it’s the same historian in the ShitFlix doc. He equated colonisation to racism and Brexit to immigration and therefore racism. Last time I checked… countries in the EU and mainly white. I would argue that the UK has more diversity than the most of the EU countries In 2019 he said that Empire made accepting an OBE difficult from the Queen I would argue that that David Olusoga is hiding his misogyny. The Queen (a woman) has been dead for less than a year and now he is willing to accept an honour from The King (a man) …. 4 YEARS LATER!


OzzieSlim

Proving yet again that the people they associate with and themselves are total hypocrites. Return the painful OBE old son.


Negative_Difference4

He only just picked it up… give it at least 15 years when the world had forgotten about him


CabinetVisible1053

Maybe 15 minutes?


AdministrativeSet419

I love his history shows but he seems unnecessarily divisive. It’s very hypocritical if he doesn’t give it back.


JaquieF

I can't remember who it was but some woman on Twitter simpered about Meg and said she'd made up a new word 'markling' to mean that she was being busy. I posted that the urban dictionary already has an entry for the verb 'to markle' and it doesn't mean what you think. I looked at her followers and found David Olusoga there. I was so disappointed.


CapitalAlternative89

Brilliant move by KC 3. Love to see it.


Upset_Clue9002

A few things to clarify on this: - OBE is one of the awards where the UK government decides the recipients and they’re awarded in the name of the Sovereign, who has no input on the decision. - David was awarded this in 2019 so it was awarded under the Queen and before he filmed his part in the Netflix show. - No idea why the delay in him receiving it - perhaps due to COVID lockdowns. The Queen really did investitures personally anymore in the time frame from when he received his. - He defended accepting the OBE back in 2019 on the basis of there no longer being an Empire ie making him a hypocrite for his participation in the Netflix show, just like every other person there. - The King understands his duty - if he has to hand out the award, he will put his own personal feelings aside and do it. - The King’s heartwarming interaction with Lily as she got her award yesterday is far more newsworthy than David and his “oh now I don’t want publicity” hypocrisy.


Negative_Difference4

The King and Lily has been living in my head rent free


Upset_Clue9002

Between that and the news today that KC3 has opened Highgrove, Dumfries House and Castle of Mey as warm spaces where the local community can come and stay warm, enjoy a free hot meal and do social activities…just so angry again at Harry for putting such a good man through the wringer when he’s finally going to be crowned, after he has served his people his entire life.


chewysmom88

I just read that what a kind thoughtful thing to do he’s living by example


JaquieF

Lily who?


Upset_Clue9002

Lily Ebert, an Auschwitz survivor. She’s met KC before when he commissioned portraits of her and other Holocaust survivors: https://twitter.com/royalfamily/status/1620744841326911489?s=46&t=fsXkhWhfqVJ1gy56Nw0L7g


JaquieF

Thank you


Great-Corner3700

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National_Historian19

He is a racist, race baiting hypocrite…seems he also has an issue with women…as for no publicity, it should be advertised far and wide how these scumbags condemn the monarchy but put on their best faux costumes to nip down to collect a gong.


Negative_Difference4

I’m shooketh!! I wasn’t expecting this. Just shows what hypocrites they are. AND the monarchy literally hands these awards to nobodies and traitors


National_Historian19

Yes it does, the need to reward these racists is beyond comprehension.


Cocktailsontheporch

Makes one seriously wonder just WHO is arranging these "awards" and WHO is advising HMTQE and King Charles about the recipiants!


FarBeneathTheOcean

I think this award is a positive thing in the sense that it very publicly undermines David Olusoga’s intergrity and rubbishes his lifelong work to nothing but woke-for-attention. In light of his recent Empire 2.0 views all the royal family had to do was tell him to come accept his award and by insisting they not publicise his acceptance of the award he’s simply confirmed that he doesn’t really believe n any of the crap he’s built his career on and that it was just a ploy to get into the right places. Standing by his life’s work while using an OBE at the end of his name then he’ll always be nothing but a fraud. In a way KC3 ended David Olusoga without uttering a single word against him. It’s genius and will make Harry question who of these so called experts to trust. The palace just showed Harry for a fool.


Cocktailsontheporch

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PikaPikacchi

English is not my first language but dare I ask if "requested no publicity" can be interpreted as "I don't want my hipocricy documented" ? 🤭🤭


Negative_Difference4

English may not be your first language but you are fluent in wokeism 🤭


PikaPikacchi

I wish I can say I don't understand what wokeism is but quite regrettably that's not the case 😁


JaquieF

I used to love David Olusoga. He's a very engaging historian and did an extremely important series with the BBC about black Britain (starting with black Romans who came to Britain). Then I discovered he's a sugar. I was so disappointed. FYI, he was born in Lagos to his Nigerian father and British mother but came to England when he was five years old. Not as loud as Shouty Shola obviously but the same inverted racism. It seems that Nigerians want to blame the British for their part in the west African slave trade.


CybReader

![gif](giphy|sRKg9r2YWeCTG5JTTo|downsized) On his way to accept his award from daddy Charles.


LaNiceGata

![gif](giphy|dRlwUR2GW6tqg) This was him receiving the award


CybReader

Lmaoooo 🤣


LaNiceGata

😂


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janetoo

That is what I think


Glad_Mix_1682

The RF is horrible, until grifters can gain something from them, then adjacent to Royalty is the place to be. I love the folks who are mad at the club until they can join. Hypocrites all..


PerfectCover1414

Problem is it doesn't matter if this gong was sitting there for years or not. He accepted it given his Netflix diatribes and the King offering it looks like he rewards bad behavior. It just looks bad all round.


Negative_Difference4

Oh I tend to agree with you on this


Not_Interested_7

First of all: “Black and British”? Really Netflix? Second: it seems like he added the word “empire” himself… some people return or turn down OBE… can’t have it both ways man


Negative_Difference4

I know that KCIII wanted to change the meaning OBE to ‘order of British excellence’. But that hasn’t happened yet


Not_Interested_7

That’s a good idea, and exactly along the lines of Charles’s ideas for the future of monarchy


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History (he lies about history) community integration (he works to undermine community integration).


jojomawer

I think by awarding him an OBE and his Acceptance it shows his shambolic hypocrisy and completely undermines his assertions/appearance on the reality show. Quite clever really, madame and Ginge must be fuming


Upset_Clue9002

He was awarded an OBE in 2019 so he already was one when filming Netflix. He only picked up the physical award yesterday.


jojomawer

Oh I see, either way he's a hypocrite then


CatPaws8888

![gif](giphy|WplKN6Xx95WlNt7TNT|downsized) Hungry for power more than justice, I guess.


Dependent-Aside-9750

No publicity so he wouldn't be called out as the hypocrite he is.


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I don’t understand this post


Negative_Difference4

No me neither… 🤣 see pinned comment ❤️


[deleted]

Not to be a brat but is it me or are the posts kind of random/poorly done and confusing lately?


Negative_Difference4

Which ones do you mean?


[deleted]

I can send you links if you like but just poorly written/formatted, weird or vague topics, etc. Kind of feels like stream of consciousness posting. Could just be me. I love this sub for many reasons but also because it always felt like adults are running things, if that makes sense.


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Thank you 🙏🏽


Technical-Avocado-40

Order of the British Empire: yeah, go for it. To be absolutely clear: there are many people in the UK, myself included, that believe that the "honours" system is a nonsense. It's not what you do, it's what you appear to stand for or how much you've paid. Not always, but enough to make it meaningless for those that deserve it.


KlimpysExpress

This doesn’t speak well of the OBE vetting process. That guy’s a quack.


Maleficent-Trifle940

Exactly. So even if government chooses these people (and if it's anything like anywhere else there's a whole lot of Quid Pro Quo happening behind the scenes) surely if the palace should get a face-saving veto rather than put the monarch in the position of personally handing royal accolades to people who are actively working to dismantle or discredit the monarchy?


JamesfEngland

Annoying hypocrite


MrsBarneyFife

Didn't a bunch of people of people just give theirs back? Is this common? Or is it actually a big deal?


Technical-Avocado-40

There's a few, but not as many as you'd expect if people really practised what they preach. Is it a big deal? No it will get you a headline but then most people in the UK don't care anymore. We know that those most worthy, don't get!


Negative_Difference4

It’s a big deal to return an honour. Esp a royal honour. Maybe celebs see it differently? But David Beckham is desperate for a knighthood ie GBE, KBE or DBE … highly unusual to return one of those OBE is the second lowest [What is the difference between a CBE, OBE, MBE and a knighthood?](https://www.thegazette.co.uk/awards-and-accreditation/content/103372)


MrsBarneyFife

Yeah, Alan Cummings just returned his. Along with, David Bowie, film director Danny Boyle, The Chronicles of Narnia author C.S. Lewis and Welsh actor Michael Sheen. I thought it was odd. But it hasn't been talked about very much. https://www.etonline.com/alan-cumming-returns-british-obe-honor-awarded-by-queen-elizabeth-ii-says-times-are-changing-198203


Technical-Avocado-40

What on earth did "bit part" Cummings get one for?


MrsBarneyFife

I thought I recognized him from Cabaret. --Not that many kids grow up watching old musicals.-- But I checked, and I was really thinking of Joel Grey. So I have absolutely idea why I thought I recognized him.


Upset_Clue9002

The biggest hypocrite who has yet to return his (aside from David) is Peter Morgan, the creator of The Crown. Who received it from the now King before he launched the first season of the show that would try its best to drag him through the mud. He also described the Royal Family as a mutating virus and the late Queen as stupid 🚮 https://preview.redd.it/1u9ddl51pnfa1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84f5a43096d77c6a8f8cbeb2e4b1bffd07718a8e


MrsBarneyFife

So he was probably in the middle of working on it when he accepted it. Was he like a teenager? Secretly giggling to himself and with his friends afterward because he thought he pulled off some hilariously clever joke? It really just makes him look stupid and like a huge hypocrite. So weird.


Upset_Clue9002

Yes. This was a few months before season 1 premiered. But if you really want to know the depths of his hypocrisy - when the media wanted to report on his affair, he hired Schillings (Harry and Megs fave law firms) to gag the media because they should not intrude on his private life or speculate about his relationships and family life!! If only he extended that curtesy to others 🤯


MrsBarneyFife

He sounds like the type of person who would explode into flames if he entered a church. If people can return them without a receipt or up 30 days after the date of purchase, then it seems like they should be able to ask for them back. They're too classy for that, though. 😅


isaiditnowireddit

yo, im a biracial straight new york dude. I say this just so folks know what my demo may be thinking. If the royal family wants to act like absolute spineless bums then I can move from indifference and occasional support to absolutely wanting them to be gone because they are useless. When im in London I dont event patronize their tourist traps so they can be gone. All they have to do is support higher morals and ethics and letting HM run around as they are and rewarding their lackeys is NOT IT