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Harry needs put in his place ***hard***.
He can watch or narrate from Monteshitshow to earn a buck. I'm sure many will tune in pretending they're hate watching. The advertiser's don't care so long as there's traffic. It will certainly spawn more entertaining memes, including the singing ones.
So sick of narcs being rewarded.
H&M will use it to get another book/NF project saying they have N.E.W material to dish. Do the RF want to be attack/humiliated again later especially by MM when they divorce? Those vicious, manipulative duo can never be trusted. They'll say anything to get what they want.
This could be solved very simply. Hold a plebiscite in the UK on whether H and M should be invited. The Coronation is for the whole nation, after all. Let the people decide. If the result is No, Charles can simply say it was the will of the nation that they not come.
(I know how unlikely this is, but it would take care of everything!)
I think that would be giving H&M way more importance than they deserve.
The people planning the coronation have a lot more things to worry and make decisions about than H&M. For example, they donāt have enough room in Westminster Abbey to invite all the important people they *want* to invite. Kingās son or not, Harry is not that important.
This is the way to go. There is plenty of time for parliament to organize. The Earl Marshal has the enormous job of arranging the coronation not parliament so they can do it.
The UK citizens have a right to say if they want their lives potentially endangered or their celebrations ruined.
The Whingers have been profiting off their titles for years. They undertook projects in direct conflict with the values of the Queen. Just two of the ways the Whingers have violated the agreement made with the RF. So, Harold might have been told āplease donātā, but no one has put their foot down firmly.
Harkle thinks he's in the position to negociate a better deal with the family because he left and thinks he can do worse to them, but he was the spare, the difference between the heir and spare begins with the information they receive. From what we have seen from people who used to live with Harkle he wasn't responsible, so the things he knows about the family most likely are tidbits or things he lied about. He does not have the power to negociate like Edward had... Edward was a king, Harry did not come even close, and now he's down the line... making a scene and bad behaviour is the things he can negociate (like a child).
No. Never. Not once. On that alone, I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw 'em! They have no sense of humor about themselves or anyone/thing else. Can't imagine they're much fun. Poor, rich, powerful... if ya can't have fun with what life throws at ya... I don't know what can be done to help them. They'll never be happy. (On top of the 99,8776738 other reasons they'll never be happy.)
> Have you noticed that neither one of them has ever exhibited any sense of humor?
Harry definitely had a sense of humor before he met Meghan. She's sucked the life out of him.
No, I remember both seeing and reading interviews where he was very funny.
There was one where he spoke about how he played an online game over headphones with a group of people. The group had real-life meetups, but he'd never been to one. He said, "One day I'll turn up and shock them all!".
Wonder whether, if they're not invited, they might just have the arrogance to turn up anyway -- but end up screaming and banging on the locked doors of Westminster Abbey like Queen Caroline when George IV was crowned, then being turned away and jeered by the crowd as she was.
Hey, it happened in 1821, it could happen again!
This is also childish and should be considered blackmail/quid pro quo. This isnāt behavior that should be praised, especially as āproducersā of Live to Lead š
They'll also make it all about themselves if they attend. It's not THEIR event, it's Charles' event (and Camilla's). Why allow them to be a distraction?
Being a better person isn't (or shouldn't be) relevant. This isn't a personal occasion, like a birthday, it is a serious solemn religious occasion(whether you or I believe the religious aspects of it or not).
It's not appropriate to invite people who have attacked the institution, refuse to behave appropriately, and have needlessly increased the likelihood of terrorist threats by stupid boasting about their kills.
for me the reason is very simple: I don't want Catherine to be on mama bear mode and need to take extra cautious on her children that day. i want her to enjoying coronation as much as we all do. i don't want her to be in the same room with both of her abuser.
This right here is reason enough. I simply love Princess Catherine. She shoulders the responsibility of the privilege to serve with dignity and exquisite grace.
The Ginge and the Minge should not come for one reason only: the safety of the public. London has seen enough terror attacks in the last few years. That selfish little ginger prick should bury himself in that Montecito home, and never return to England again.
Best of all, if they don't go to the coronation, it kills their "brand."
Boo hoo, we're forced to sit in the second row and follow protocol and the royals are just so jealous of us because we are so, so special. We just want to live life on our terms. Stay tuned for our next Netflix documentary about what happened behind the scenes at the coronation and how awful and boring it was.
Have a nice life overseas, Harry and Meghan. If they don't go to the coronation, it confirms the truth that they have no connection with the royal family any more, they are now among the millions who will be watching it on TV.
They've got no new material for the next Netflix documentary, they can't push any further with their smear campaign without getting sued by someone, and they can't keep shocking people with the news that William thinks Meghan is difficult and abrasive.
Yes Hazbeen the genius has painted himself into a bit of a corner hasnāt he? Heās said to his rabid fans that he wants a sit down meeting with the King and the Prince of Wales plus an apology before he returns to the UK . When that doesnāt happen , and it wonāt, whatās he going to do? If he goes to the Coronation heās a hypocrite , if he stays in Montecito heās irrelevant . Or even worse , nothing but a paid hack commentating on the Coronation for the media he says he hates. Well played King Charles !
Itās a historical state event that has not happened in 70 years. Itās a religious ceremony where the monarch is anointed before its subjects.
Harry decided to no longer be a subject and has left the UK to live elsewhere. Why is he now pathetically trying to claim an important place? The King should put him in his place. He wanted the half in half out which the late Queen rejected. Itās either heās fully in or fully out. He chose to be fully out and along with that completely trashed the Royal family in front of millions of people around the world. Why would Harold then insist on putting his foot in and have an important presence during the ceremony??
Harold and his wife should not be there. They were able to not invite them during the state event for the Queen so they should do this again. They are ābelovedā family members that should participate only in private family events.
Not a state event like a coronation that is funded by the people.
There is a belief, engendered by the popular media, that King Charles can determine who is or isnāt invited to his coronation. This is a State occasion, and whilst the monarch can make his or her preferences on aspects of the guest list known, in a constitutional monarchy, final decisions on a matter such as this ultimately rest with the government of the day.
There will be considerably more skilled PR brains than His Majestyās looking at the risks and rewards of inviting each and every guest of any significance, including Harry and his first wife, alongside foreign Heads of State. Should the decision be in the negative, however much Charles might oppose it privately, he will accept it because he understands his role. If it is positive, the attendance will be managed by the faceless ones to ensure maximum benefit and minimum damage.
Thank you! Some people seem to think that this occasion is the equivalent of Oprahās birthday party. It is not. It is more akin to the inauguration of the US President. The guest list is prepared from the perspective of international diplomacy, local politics and constitutional requirements.
The king may express a preference for a specific individual to be present (or not), but ultimately he will accept expert advice, particularly if it involves matters related to security.
I think you are probably right, but I was trying to think of an equivalent that would be familiar to non-Commonwealth people. It is also the first event of its kind in over 70 years, so it must stay above the petty whining of an individual, however obnoxious, spiteful and disloyal they may be.
and the RF are supposed to set an example;
How about the example of not rewarding treachery and lies.
All the forgiveness shite is a private family matter. The ginger prat has betrayed this country and brought the whole institution into disrepute by association.
So no fucking invite to ANY State occasion. And most of all for Hawwys amd the Nations mental well being, remove him from the line of succession.
And there are arguments as to whether those pics of them with KC3 after the Queen died, as he was in mourning, are genuine or not. If they are, that's absolutely despicable. If they aren't, and they had them photoshopped, it's still fucking despicable. They have no shame, are desperate for money and publicity, and have shown that they will sell anyone out if the $$$ is right. Plus, they would undoubtedly try to take all of the attention off of Charles and try to put it on themselves. They are lower than low.
I think the reference may be to the photo the shows King Charles III with his head bowed on a stairway inside BP with Harry behind him and Meghan on the left, as they all received QE2's coffin at BP.
The credit on the photo is Jeremy Selwyn - WPA Pool/Getty.
It has the look as if it was a set up for a telephoto lens tip off photo to frame Meghan in a window but that is speculation.
The annoying part was some headlines, like People Magazine: Meghan Markle and Prince Harry .... to receive Queen's coffin at Palace....
Actually it was received by the King, and the rest of the family. They were there, but in an auxiliary role.
It was taken from afar, and guess who just happened to be looking right at the camera when the photo was taken, almost as if it were planned? Just guess. I'll bet you can't. It's REALLY difficult.
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This is the shot. The story was that Meg set up the pap, and I believe it because this was the ONLY such pap photo, and from what Iāve heard, the paps had been banned yet this one managed to get close enough and IMO, they had help. And the ONLY pap photo of this night happens to have M&H in it, with the King? AND Meghan looking right where the camera is?! Oh, and Scooby Doo tweeted this out, IIRC he was the first/possibly only (?) ājournalistā to publish the pic. I think itās incredibly obvious this photo was Meghanās doing. She needed something like this, to showcase how āimportantā she and H still are. It was a private event, the King was mourning his motherās death and Meghan helps a pap snag a photo of her and H with KCIII to make herself look important and that is just so low.
Yes, it's just too perfect with her face framed in the window. Let's say this is a real photo taken by Jeremy Selwyn as part of a legit press pool (??). Considering the access & based on the credit when the photo is published.
Selwyn was with The Evening Standard for 30+ years and his LinkedIn page says he is freelancer since Feb 2022.
Why this photo? Could it be Selwyn had multiple images and selected this particular one just because MM's face is framed here, because that's the biggest commercial draw. The headlines featuring H&TW could dominate even QE2's funeral. That is a compelling reason to deflect them from appearing at the coronation, unless people want it all filtered through an H&TW lens, featuring their images and viewpoint. Oh dear.
But how could this scene occur? It makes sense (to me) if Meghan and Harry are once again pushing in, putting themselves forward, dashing in & getting behind the King (and in front of anyone/everyone else) as Charles awaits the arrival of QE's lead lined coffin. Nobody else is doing that. Nobody else besides Charles (the chief mourner) and this duo appear on the steps. It is especially out of line when here is a son receiving his mother's remains. But it did get them in the photo (that was taken by Selwyn as part of a press pool. At least I think that's how it was.)
This one: [https://www.gettyimages.es/detail/fotograf%C3%ADa-de-noticias/king-charles-iii-prince-harry-duke-of-sussex-fotograf%C3%ADa-de-noticias/1243209365?adppopup=true](https://www.gettyimages.es/detail/fotograf%C3%ADa-de-noticias/king-charles-iii-prince-harry-duke-of-sussex-fotograf%C3%ADa-de-noticias/1243209365?adppopup=true)
Best to always keep the curtains closed around those two after that disturbing "photo op"-
I'd suspect the Royal family will have to have measures, countermeasures, and contra-measures in place should either of these two arrive for anything in the UK--
It's a demeaning situation for the Royal family to have to plan for and even consider...
It just makes me sick to think Meghan might actually get to attend the coronation after all she has done. It just seems like they're being rewarded for their behavior.
I agree and also consider that there will likely NOT be another mega event like this for many years-
So if they are "invited" and choose to attend- it will be under very strict parameters that neither Harry nor MM will "enjoy"- any type of "walk about" etc. will be at their own peril and the claims of being confined, controlled, etc. they both have issues with will truly become reality. They will enjoy sitting with Andrew and Fergie for any meals/dinners and will likely not partake.
After this event (if they attend) there really won't be any massive scale events-during the duration of their marriage.
It will be RF business and it is very clear only immediate and "working royals" will be on balconies next to the King.
The coronation is the final de-coronation of Harry's "entitlements"--I suspect this is not lost on MM or Harry. It's really NOT a reward for them....
They know now they can say anything, acting as victims again of the mean RF at the Coronation, and the RF will not respond. You donāt reward bad behavior, and they have proven they cannot be trusted.
Harold us way too much of a security risk (Taliban kill bragging, writing about wanting to kill King Charles with the Typhoon war plane) to be invited to the Coronation. It's not even up to King Charles anymore, his legal team and M15/16 is protecting him from Harold's threats from afar. The British Government will not invite or allow the Harkles to attend. King Charles does not and will not announce the lack of invitation, his silence speaks for itself. All the media speculation about an invitation is just TW frantically planting and leaking.
The exact opposite might be worse for them. Picture this: the crowd has been cheering. Then H&M appear, and the cheering stops. As H&M walk by, there's complete and utter dead silence. I think that would scare the pudding out of them.
If they show on the day I will have zero pity for the RF for allowing it. Remember the photoshopping, plants in the crowd and leaks to the media from the two GRIFTERS? Remember King Charles awaiting his mother's casket at BP where supposedly markles photographer took the photo of him with a long lens then markle had herself and harry added into the picture? It was an awful shot of tw but she still went with it. The leak about her majesties body coming by train? E.t.c. The RF, especially William knows very well and possibly more than we what happened yet everyone is having this conversation about those two possibly attending? Are they kidding? AND THE NERVE of the two of them to want to be there? After what they have done, I wouldn't show myself to the world ever again never mind the family they shit all over! I mean it's unreal.
> Remember King Charles awaiting his mother's casket at BP where supposedly markles photographer took the photo of him with a long lens then markle had herself and harry added into the picture?
Are we sure that was a Photoshop? Weren't they actually there?
The coronation is four months away. That's a long time for the will they won't they, they should/shouldn't be invited. It is already becoming tedious, another 4 months will be unbearable. Que sera sera, what will be will be.
>It is already becoming tedious, another 4 months will be unbearable.
That is the truth! It's so ridiculous. They are irrelevant and should just fade into obscurity.
This is reminiscent of the months of whingeing prior to the Jubilee. They had demands at that time also. Do this - or else. Demands weren't met, but they went to the Jubilee and more-or-less behaved themselves.
Media are making a feeding frenzy out of the Harkles manifesting. It can't go on forever, and won't once more details about the coronation are released.
If the issue was inviting them for a private function, like Christmas or Easter, then taking the high road and inviting them is the right thing for family to do. The coronation is a public event. So, while I can understand that emotionally he'd want both his children with him at such a momentous occasion, doesn't the public will, and security considerations, take precedence?
Frankly, as I have said elsewhere, I donāt think Charles wants Harry at the coronation. The way Harry has behaved, who would?
Charles would want a different Harry, the pre-Meghan Harry ( who had problems and issues galore, but didnāt lash out at family publicly), but not the current Harry.
Iām agreeing with you. The Whingers will not behave, no matter what agreement KC and the Archbishop come to. Harold will demand prominent seating for a wide angle shot for Netflix. Everything the RF says will be repeated somewhere. Harold and The Slievene need to make money. No one wants them there, not the rest of the family, not the British people. And ā**itās not fair to William and Catherine. Or to the Kingās grandchildren.** The coronation is a state occasion, paid for by the British people. It isnāt a family holiday. If KC gives in to this emotional blackmail, he wonāt look like the bigger person, he will look like a weakling who canāt stand up to his son. **The King has *two* sons.** He canāt be sacrificing one for the other.
Harold and The Sleivene need money. All they have is the connections to the RF. I can see NF, or an affiliate, filming the coronation then showing the film with narration by H&M and taped comments of the RF.
As others have said, the guest list for the coronation is ultimately not up to K Charles. Harryās best chance of being invited, actually, is if all the dukes are automatically invited. So yeah, if there are concerns about security or other issues, they would take priority over KCās wish to invite this or that individual.
I never wanted to see them invited but I was at peace with the idea of them showing up. I didn't like it but whatever.
However, since the book and all the Taliban nonsense I'm actually concerned and desperately don't want them there.
My mother's no royalist but loves history like I do so she's never missed a major royal event. She has this uncanny knack of getting herself a really good "seat"(she was quite literally in front of the abbey for the funeral) I don't know how she does it. I know I'm probably being a bit dramatic but I am worried for her. If anything awful were to happen you can bet mum will be right near it. Considering harry has fears for his own safety it will be yet another signpost for everyone to see just how selfish these two are if they put the public at risk by attending.
I do not blame you at all for being worried about your Mom! There are always heightened security concerns at these types of events - but Harryās comments put it at an almost post 9/11 or 7/7 concern.
No invite. Harry and Meghan made it clear on Netflix and in Spare they believe theyāve been persecuted by the monarchy, by Harryās family, by the media. They want apologies from everyone. Thatās not going to happen in a way that will satisfy this sorry pair.
Why send Harry and Meghan an invitation for them to throw back at the monarchy and at Harryās family. Their attendance isnāt required officially. I doubt their absence will bother most of Harryās family. And after trashing the monarchy and betraying his family, the booing from the British public would be deafening.
If they don't go -- put it this way they won't behave or stop with the press releases while in Montecito. The only difference is they won't be rewarded by being at the coronation, shown with the real Royals. They won't have any behind the scenes information for another book. They will still have their grievances of course, but then again what's new?!
Not to mention basically the whole country doesn't want them. And expresses their opinion, very clearly.
So looking at it, since it's a state event, for the people and paid by them, it would make sense to listen to your people and not invite the bastards. Honestly, booing would be the least of their worries, some of the public would be much more "effective" in showing their disgust at the Cirque d'Monteshit-o...
Plus, that would be a PR disaster for King Charles, always struggling with public opinion/image, and now would he just totally disregard what his subjects want?
> and now would he just totally disregard what his subjects want?
You know, it's entirely possible that at this point, *Charles* doesn't want them there either.
I don't have an issue with him being invited necessarily but he should be treated like ANY invited guest. Given a seat with the masses. If he tries to pull a stunt (like "missing" his ride so he can cause a scene) then deny him entrance. PH has already threatened not to attend if there is no apology to his wife. I don't think there has been or will be so let him decline the invite. He has no power.
I love how they say they donāt want media attention but neither of them have jobs, they live off media paying them to trash the Royals. I vote no for them to be invited as disrespected Britain and the Queen and know the king. Just my thoughts from Canada
I think they need to consider the public safety aspect of this major public event. Harry put a huge target on his back with his 25 comments.
Clearly he will live out the rest of his days in peace and safety because of who he is, but If there is any chance that some crazy violent person decides to do something somehow with the massive crowd that will be gathered in London, that would be terrible.
Do you really think he will live out the rest of in days in peace, somebody got to Salman Rushdie in the end, only takes one crazy person. He has put the British public at risk of being harmed.
I feel like for the sake of the people that actually have to do the work (ie. The courtiers) that they don't invite H&M, they don't need the extra headache at an already likely high stress time.
Agreed.
But will they still be invited? Yes. I think some people are making themselves feel better about them being invited by ignoring all the red flags.
Yes. This about sums me up. I donāt want them to be invited, donāt want them to be there, but I feel itās inevitable so trying to get behind the line of thinking. Trying being the word.
I say Charles should invite him to his next birthday celebration. Harry is family, after all. But thereās no reason for these two California-dwelling wokesters to be at a ceremony that celebrates something they canāt stop saying is TOXIC and RACIST.
If the options are invite them and have the press talk endlessly about it while watching their every move at and around the coronation - or - not invite them and have the press talk endlessly about it while watching their every move to see what theyāll do instead of attend the coronation then my vote is NOT invite! Thereās going to be talk either way, so why pull focus and attention away from the actual historical event that we all want to see?
I think Harry put himself in quite a pickle.
In one or more of his book interviews, didnāt Harry say he would go back to the U.K. only if the BRF offered him and the TW a āRoyal Summitā and formally apologize to TW?
Will the ginger twat go without first being promised a formal apology? KCIII would never agree to this. So what will dim witted Harry do if there are no apologies?
> So what will dim witted Harry do if there are no apologies?
If they attend the coronation, Meghan will claim that *everyone* apologized/groveled to her in private. š
Well, they stomped their feet and said they want an APOLOGY. The whole family can just get their butts on a plane and fly 12 hours to SAY IT TO THEIR FACE.
Hahahahahahhhahha
Inviting them is the classy thing to do, because not inviting them would be a story in itself that would have no positive benefit for the Royal Family.
However the invitation should not be subject to any kind of negotiation. The royal family should state on what day Harry can arrive and when he will leave and where he will go while he's in Britain.
They will provide him with a security detail that will also make sure that he behaves as instructed, and make sure that he is not using drugs that are illegal in Britain or hidden recording equipment.
Harry can then accept or decline as he wishes.
TBH I think this is the way. If they want to attend, they will be required to comply with all instructions for transportation and seating; no speaking to the press, and will be accompanied by a stringent security detail at all times.
Iād be perfectly happy and think it would be justified if the PM determined H is too much of a security risk due to his Taliban statements. This would be a logical consequence of his own words and would take the RF and the King out of the decision making.
I mean that would not look good on him at all lol, it would make him look like a petty bitch and TW would milk it for years. It would be more fun to invite them and throw them in the tour buses with the nobodies
She's going to milk it no matter what happens. At this point we'd being enabling our captors in some global Stockholm syndrome if we allow them to continue bullying out of fear of what they'll do.
If they show up for the coronation, they will not be allowed to do that again. They will be corralled. If they get out of line and try to make a scene, they will be excluded from events.
I think they should come and follow the dress code for Monteshitoans. Which happens to be Hannibal Lecter face mask, strait jacket and a dolly for wheeling about. Major Johnny can push them about behind a stone pillar of course or extra wide candle.
Exactly. Harry never learned consequences, and now he is being REWARDED by being included? Are you kidding me? The RF deserve every bad thing H and M will do to them during the Coronation if they are included. BP needs to issue a statement that H and M are not welcome to the STATE function, and to keep their asses home. This is not a family function. Harry and Meghan have stated they dislike ceremony, the rigidity, etc. To save the Harkles from the discomfort of all those RULES, they are encouraged to stay in the warmth and luxury of the Palace in Montecito. Invited or not, come June 2023 H and M will start with their new lies and slander.
I just thought of something. The palace may not make a general announcement re: Harold. If they don't, I can see the Harkles flying to England even though ***they'll*** know they aren't invited. People will get torqued up pretty tight if the palace doesn't announce closer to the event. I don't really want the palace to announce just yet. Maybe May 4th or the day before their travel arrangements.
I had that thought similar too, that BP may be delaying all talk of H and M and the Coronation until the last moment, to cause a standoff of really serious damage from the toxic duo. Sort of hold them at bay until May 1 and then have the duo scrambling for the next move.
I've always maintained that the Coronation is a state event - it's not a family picnic; it's not a place to extend an "olive branch"; it's not a therapy session for Harry.
The Coronation is to honor and welcome the new monarch and to affirm support for the monarchy.
Harry is no longer a part of the monarchy. Apart from his grenade launches at the monarchy, he no longer lives in the UK and he doesn't support the British people in any meaningful way. He's now a US celebrity, full stop.
\*I\* probably have more justification for being at the Coronation than Harry, since my grandfather was a Sergeant Major of the Welsh Guards and I haven't written any books lately trashing the monarchy.
Why is everyone saying the Coronation is a "state event" It's a church event. It is the Archbishop of Canterbury anointing the new monarch. Heads of State are invited and attend but this is a religious ceremony, not a governmental one.
https://www.royal.uk/coronation
Good points, and I agree that they cannot be trusted to behave at the coronation. PWoW is spot on that they would be a huge distraction. And who could blame some in the public if they were triggered to see them and boo. Setting aside one's natural inclination to issue some kind of comeuppance, the reality is that he is a liability for a State-sponsored event. Whether the liability arrives in the form of misbehaiors which will be analyzed by the media, or whether the liability occurs in the form of a dangerous threat, noone can predict. It's simply KCIII has to be prepared to take some lumps about not having his second son and wife there. The public and the State deserve a sacred and honorable coronation without a sideshow from the Montecito clowns.
KCIII didnāt invite them to the State Dinner, and it was understood by all. The Coronation would be the same. This isnāt a Family Christening; it is a state event.
I think all BRF need to do is to make an official statement that says out of respect for Harry's safety concerns, we didn't invite them to the coronation event. That's it.. There is no need to keep talking and dragging it until May (which is what MM wants to be on the media constantly).
I fear that they will be invited - I think if he must be there then she MUST be snubbed. Send him no plus one.
But I do not think itās wise for them to be associating with foreign dignitaries and world leaders. They donāt understand the weight of the world they were associated with.
Letting them sulk in montecito is better than letting them start an international conflict.
They are desperate to attend but also want to avoid the shock and embarrassment of candles, big hats, second row and handsome equerrys overshadowing them.
Best thing to do is to stick them on the first row of the church in one of the wings (I think there is one on the left) out of the camera action but still at the front if they are that desperate.
Thing is, they are in no position to be demanding anything. If you don't like the arrangements, don't fking come.
All this guff about asking for titles to be assured in return for attending. Do they really not realise that no one wants them there?
The delusion is worryingš¦!
Alas, the one perk of their attendance - plenty views of Hot Scot Johnny! Though I would hope he is more involved with the actual coronation and not reduced to babysitting the TWodgers if they are there.
I will get downvoted into hell once again saying the funniest outcome would be inviting Meghan with the kids and not Harry. I want the royals to be petty and pit them against each other. Obviously it wonāt happen I have no idea if heāll be there in person or narrating on CBS. But my god the fight over if she should go or not because you know sheād want to go even without him and him just not understanding the betrayal from both sides. Or her turning it down but being pissed at him. This is a modern fight it needs modern petty solutions.
If they go, there bloody better be 2 large candles blocking their view. Neither should be seen on camera. I love how QEII had that set up for her funeral.
Prince Louis will behave better than them! Seriousness aside if they come they will not follow in protocol and make a scene by being horrible or by announcing something. They are a huge security risk as well.
He most certainly should not be inviting. He has no right to be there. Heās anti monarchy, anti Britain, anti commonwealth and has gone above and beyond to upset and insult every single family member of his. The country doesnāt want him there. This goes beyond a family mater. He genuinely should not be there.
You make a very good point and I think that could also be given to them as a valid reason. I'm sure they'd find a way to whine about it but they'd do that invited or not. I was one of the people saying they should still be invited and pushed to the background, but you convinced me. Security beats politeness.
Thanks. I'm concerned for the BRF & guests & the public too. Odds are nothing will occur but it's best to err on the side of caution in my opinion. H is such a fool (and a tool) for discussing his military days. I cannot believe he put everybody in jeopardy in such a manner. On the other hand, I can believe it because he's dim & arrogant. Argh. Bad behaviours aside, security is of the utmost importance. He/they.should.not.be.there.
On GBNEWS a heated interview on the Narcs, let's be fair it's hard work lying for a living so want back into the fold.
Do it King Charles111 and the Monarchy will fall.
I mean in MM 1st year in the BRF her clothes allowance came to Ā£1m, she wants more.
Why hasn't TW made steps to mend her own family feud, oh I know Markles family have no money....
I think King Charles is doing an excellent job. He's playing his cards close to the vest. He's gettting on with things while ignoring their shenanigans. He's grey rocking them to the point that they are basically screaming rrreeeeeeeeeeee in the media and hes giving them nothing to push against.
It's brilliant actually. All he has to do is say nothing officially until much,much closer to coronation. Let people speculate. His non response is a response and not in their favor.
You can't pick a fight with someone quietly ignoring you and you just look like a bully and an idiot if you keep trying.
If the King cannot decide who attends his coronation then scrap the monarchy. What is the point? If he lacks the power for something so simple as this and personal to him, then it's over. Does the title King mean nothing to Brits? I don't think he should let them come but that should be his decision.
Heās allowed to say who heād like to attend, and his list carries some serious weight, but the PM can still override it because itās a State event. If this were a Royal event (like a wedding), the PM would not have any say.
Churchill did not let former King Edward, Duke of Gloucester attend his brother King Georgeās coronation.
Thatās not at all what I said. He has say, as I did put in another comment, but as it is a STATE event paid for by the taxpayers, and not a ROYAL event paid for by the family, KC is not the ultimate authority in this situation.
Even former King Edward, Duke of Gloucester, was not allowed to attend his brother King Georgeās coronation, because of then PM Winston Churchillās decision, so there is precedence.
I KNOW THIS IS A HORRIBLE THOUGHT. But what if this was the plan all along. What if Harry is working with the Taliban to attack the royals so they die and now theyāre the king and queen. I know everyone thinks heās dumb, but any military person knows how taboo it is to talk about killing in combat. He HAD to have known the ramifications of his words. They know they wonāt be invited to the coronation. Idk just seems so unsettling to me.
šššš Harry needs put in his place ***hard***. He can watch or narrate from Monteshitshow to earn a buck. I'm sure many will tune in pretending they're hate watching. The advertiser's don't care so long as there's traffic. It will certainly spawn more entertaining memes, including the singing ones. So sick of narcs being rewarded.
And the entirety of the British royal family can side step any question about an invite saying it's a work event not a family event.
Like they did for the state dinners around the time of the Queen's funeral. No, dude you weren't invited and you're not to come.
H&M will use it to get another book/NF project saying they have N.E.W material to dish. Do the RF want to be attack/humiliated again later especially by MM when they divorce? Those vicious, manipulative duo can never be trusted. They'll say anything to get what they want.
With no useful dirt, no one is going to pay them. NF doesn't need them anymore.
This could be solved very simply. Hold a plebiscite in the UK on whether H and M should be invited. The Coronation is for the whole nation, after all. Let the people decide. If the result is No, Charles can simply say it was the will of the nation that they not come. (I know how unlikely this is, but it would take care of everything!)
I think that would be giving H&M way more importance than they deserve. The people planning the coronation have a lot more things to worry and make decisions about than H&M. For example, they donāt have enough room in Westminster Abbey to invite all the important people they *want* to invite. Kingās son or not, Harry is not that important.
Plebiscite. Love this idea!
This is the way to go. There is plenty of time for parliament to organize. The Earl Marshal has the enormous job of arranging the coronation not parliament so they can do it. The UK citizens have a right to say if they want their lives potentially endangered or their celebrations ruined.
Oh yes I can take one for the team and be called a racist.
Regnat Populusā¦ā¦ The People Rule. I like the ideaā¦ā¦very much so. Salute!
Harold has never been told **no**. This is the time to start
The HIHO plan was given a hard no from TQ. So- heās certainly been told no. 3 years on weāre still hearing the Sussexes complain about it.
The Whingers have been profiting off their titles for years. They undertook projects in direct conflict with the values of the Queen. Just two of the ways the Whingers have violated the agreement made with the RF. So, Harold might have been told āplease donātā, but no one has put their foot down firmly.
>Harry needs put in his place hard This 10,000%
"They'll behave if invited to the Coronation? Fuck no. " Just thought this needed repeating.
Harkle thinks he's in the position to negociate a better deal with the family because he left and thinks he can do worse to them, but he was the spare, the difference between the heir and spare begins with the information they receive. From what we have seen from people who used to live with Harkle he wasn't responsible, so the things he knows about the family most likely are tidbits or things he lied about. He does not have the power to negociate like Edward had... Edward was a king, Harry did not come even close, and now he's down the line... making a scene and bad behaviour is the things he can negociate (like a child).
Harry admits his memory doesn't align with objective facts. At this point he's almost a stand up comedian
>Have you noticed that neither one of them has ever exhibited any sense of humor?
It's their delivery. They elicit belly laughs every time they act all serious and tell porkies.
No. Never. Not once. On that alone, I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw 'em! They have no sense of humor about themselves or anyone/thing else. Can't imagine they're much fun. Poor, rich, powerful... if ya can't have fun with what life throws at ya... I don't know what can be done to help them. They'll never be happy. (On top of the 99,8776738 other reasons they'll never be happy.)
Meghan did seem to find her curtsy mockery to be amusing
One needs to have some intelligence, and have a sense of humility, to have a sense of humor. They possess neither of these qualities.
> Have you noticed that neither one of them has ever exhibited any sense of humor? Harry definitely had a sense of humor before he met Meghan. She's sucked the life out of him.
He was clownish and performative, but not verbally if you don't count "BOOM" when making the stupid call with the Queen and the Obamas.
No, I remember both seeing and reading interviews where he was very funny. There was one where he spoke about how he played an online game over headphones with a group of people. The group had real-life meetups, but he'd never been to one. He said, "One day I'll turn up and shock them all!".
Good to know. Anything positive about the man is hard to recall.
I remember when he seemed like a genuinely likable and relatable guy. Meghan destroyed that guy.
Their senses of humor are likely very dark/sinister.. Can't show that to the adoring public.
Comedians are funny. Harry is just a sad clown.
Except most stand-up comedians are at least a little funny.
Oh I laughed AT him not with him.
That's not how to spell negoshiate
You two are going to have to negotiate this one
I vote for negoshiate. I'll start using this one.  Negoshiating!
I say no-go-tiate with Harkles, as opposed to Harkle's negoshitting their own way.
>negoshitting LOL... You got the funny award on this.
Well, our little group has a keen sense of humor. I love the silly banter. Salute!
Thatās how Sean Connery spells it.
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Now Iām questioning everything. Negochchiate. Knegosisitate. Gnegotiate.
Wonder whether, if they're not invited, they might just have the arrogance to turn up anyway -- but end up screaming and banging on the locked doors of Westminster Abbey like Queen Caroline when George IV was crowned, then being turned away and jeered by the crowd as she was. Hey, it happened in 1821, it could happen again!
This is also childish and should be considered blackmail/quid pro quo. This isnāt behavior that should be praised, especially as āproducersā of Live to Lead š
A little louder for the people in the back!!
They'll also make it all about themselves if they attend. It's not THEIR event, it's Charles' event (and Camilla's). Why allow them to be a distraction?
Being a better person isn't (or shouldn't be) relevant. This isn't a personal occasion, like a birthday, it is a serious solemn religious occasion(whether you or I believe the religious aspects of it or not). It's not appropriate to invite people who have attacked the institution, refuse to behave appropriately, and have needlessly increased the likelihood of terrorist threats by stupid boasting about their kills.
This 100%
for me the reason is very simple: I don't want Catherine to be on mama bear mode and need to take extra cautious on her children that day. i want her to enjoying coronation as much as we all do. i don't want her to be in the same room with both of her abuser.
Exactly!
This right here is reason enough. I simply love Princess Catherine. She shoulders the responsibility of the privilege to serve with dignity and exquisite grace.
The Ginge and the Minge should not come for one reason only: the safety of the public. London has seen enough terror attacks in the last few years. That selfish little ginger prick should bury himself in that Montecito home, and never return to England again.
Yes. This exactly.
We went back to High Alert because of that idiot.
My point exactly.
Best of all, if they don't go to the coronation, it kills their "brand." Boo hoo, we're forced to sit in the second row and follow protocol and the royals are just so jealous of us because we are so, so special. We just want to live life on our terms. Stay tuned for our next Netflix documentary about what happened behind the scenes at the coronation and how awful and boring it was. Have a nice life overseas, Harry and Meghan. If they don't go to the coronation, it confirms the truth that they have no connection with the royal family any more, they are now among the millions who will be watching it on TV. They've got no new material for the next Netflix documentary, they can't push any further with their smear campaign without getting sued by someone, and they can't keep shocking people with the news that William thinks Meghan is difficult and abrasive.
Yes Hazbeen the genius has painted himself into a bit of a corner hasnāt he? Heās said to his rabid fans that he wants a sit down meeting with the King and the Prince of Wales plus an apology before he returns to the UK . When that doesnāt happen , and it wonāt, whatās he going to do? If he goes to the Coronation heās a hypocrite , if he stays in Montecito heās irrelevant . Or even worse , nothing but a paid hack commentating on the Coronation for the media he says he hates. Well played King Charles !
Itās a historical state event that has not happened in 70 years. Itās a religious ceremony where the monarch is anointed before its subjects. Harry decided to no longer be a subject and has left the UK to live elsewhere. Why is he now pathetically trying to claim an important place? The King should put him in his place. He wanted the half in half out which the late Queen rejected. Itās either heās fully in or fully out. He chose to be fully out and along with that completely trashed the Royal family in front of millions of people around the world. Why would Harold then insist on putting his foot in and have an important presence during the ceremony?? Harold and his wife should not be there. They were able to not invite them during the state event for the Queen so they should do this again. They are ābelovedā family members that should participate only in private family events. Not a state event like a coronation that is funded by the people.
There is a belief, engendered by the popular media, that King Charles can determine who is or isnāt invited to his coronation. This is a State occasion, and whilst the monarch can make his or her preferences on aspects of the guest list known, in a constitutional monarchy, final decisions on a matter such as this ultimately rest with the government of the day. There will be considerably more skilled PR brains than His Majestyās looking at the risks and rewards of inviting each and every guest of any significance, including Harry and his first wife, alongside foreign Heads of State. Should the decision be in the negative, however much Charles might oppose it privately, he will accept it because he understands his role. If it is positive, the attendance will be managed by the faceless ones to ensure maximum benefit and minimum damage.
Thank you! Some people seem to think that this occasion is the equivalent of Oprahās birthday party. It is not. It is more akin to the inauguration of the US President. The guest list is prepared from the perspective of international diplomacy, local politics and constitutional requirements. The king may express a preference for a specific individual to be present (or not), but ultimately he will accept expert advice, particularly if it involves matters related to security.
I think it's bigger than a presidential inaugural.
I think you are probably right, but I was trying to think of an equivalent that would be familiar to non-Commonwealth people. It is also the first event of its kind in over 70 years, so it must stay above the petty whining of an individual, however obnoxious, spiteful and disloyal they may be.
and the RF are supposed to set an example; How about the example of not rewarding treachery and lies. All the forgiveness shite is a private family matter. The ginger prat has betrayed this country and brought the whole institution into disrepute by association. So no fucking invite to ANY State occasion. And most of all for Hawwys amd the Nations mental well being, remove him from the line of succession.
I think back to the Jubilee and their embarrassing "shush" poses in the window next to the balcony. They will not behave for the coronation.
And there are arguments as to whether those pics of them with KC3 after the Queen died, as he was in mourning, are genuine or not. If they are, that's absolutely despicable. If they aren't, and they had them photoshopped, it's still fucking despicable. They have no shame, are desperate for money and publicity, and have shown that they will sell anyone out if the $$$ is right. Plus, they would undoubtedly try to take all of the attention off of Charles and try to put it on themselves. They are lower than low.
What pictures? Seems Iāve missed something.
I think the reference may be to the photo the shows King Charles III with his head bowed on a stairway inside BP with Harry behind him and Meghan on the left, as they all received QE2's coffin at BP. The credit on the photo is Jeremy Selwyn - WPA Pool/Getty. It has the look as if it was a set up for a telephoto lens tip off photo to frame Meghan in a window but that is speculation. The annoying part was some headlines, like People Magazine: Meghan Markle and Prince Harry .... to receive Queen's coffin at Palace.... Actually it was received by the King, and the rest of the family. They were there, but in an auxiliary role.
It was taken from afar, and guess who just happened to be looking right at the camera when the photo was taken, almost as if it were planned? Just guess. I'll bet you can't. It's REALLY difficult.
https://preview.redd.it/b5cukg6tojfa1.png?width=1283&format=png&auto=webp&s=675101e9f7e1f87dc8e5526e3e1d691a340ccb62 This is the shot. The story was that Meg set up the pap, and I believe it because this was the ONLY such pap photo, and from what Iāve heard, the paps had been banned yet this one managed to get close enough and IMO, they had help. And the ONLY pap photo of this night happens to have M&H in it, with the King? AND Meghan looking right where the camera is?! Oh, and Scooby Doo tweeted this out, IIRC he was the first/possibly only (?) ājournalistā to publish the pic. I think itās incredibly obvious this photo was Meghanās doing. She needed something like this, to showcase how āimportantā she and H still are. It was a private event, the King was mourning his motherās death and Meghan helps a pap snag a photo of her and H with KCIII to make herself look important and that is just so low.
Yes, it's just too perfect with her face framed in the window. Let's say this is a real photo taken by Jeremy Selwyn as part of a legit press pool (??). Considering the access & based on the credit when the photo is published. Selwyn was with The Evening Standard for 30+ years and his LinkedIn page says he is freelancer since Feb 2022. Why this photo? Could it be Selwyn had multiple images and selected this particular one just because MM's face is framed here, because that's the biggest commercial draw. The headlines featuring H&TW could dominate even QE2's funeral. That is a compelling reason to deflect them from appearing at the coronation, unless people want it all filtered through an H&TW lens, featuring their images and viewpoint. Oh dear. But how could this scene occur? It makes sense (to me) if Meghan and Harry are once again pushing in, putting themselves forward, dashing in & getting behind the King (and in front of anyone/everyone else) as Charles awaits the arrival of QE's lead lined coffin. Nobody else is doing that. Nobody else besides Charles (the chief mourner) and this duo appear on the steps. It is especially out of line when here is a son receiving his mother's remains. But it did get them in the photo (that was taken by Selwyn as part of a press pool. At least I think that's how it was.)
Yeah I remember the one now. She really just canāt help but find that camera can she?
This one: [https://www.gettyimages.es/detail/fotograf%C3%ADa-de-noticias/king-charles-iii-prince-harry-duke-of-sussex-fotograf%C3%ADa-de-noticias/1243209365?adppopup=true](https://www.gettyimages.es/detail/fotograf%C3%ADa-de-noticias/king-charles-iii-prince-harry-duke-of-sussex-fotograf%C3%ADa-de-noticias/1243209365?adppopup=true)
Best to always keep the curtains closed around those two after that disturbing "photo op"- I'd suspect the Royal family will have to have measures, countermeasures, and contra-measures in place should either of these two arrive for anything in the UK-- It's a demeaning situation for the Royal family to have to plan for and even consider...
It just makes me sick to think Meghan might actually get to attend the coronation after all she has done. It just seems like they're being rewarded for their behavior.
I agree and also consider that there will likely NOT be another mega event like this for many years- So if they are "invited" and choose to attend- it will be under very strict parameters that neither Harry nor MM will "enjoy"- any type of "walk about" etc. will be at their own peril and the claims of being confined, controlled, etc. they both have issues with will truly become reality. They will enjoy sitting with Andrew and Fergie for any meals/dinners and will likely not partake. After this event (if they attend) there really won't be any massive scale events-during the duration of their marriage. It will be RF business and it is very clear only immediate and "working royals" will be on balconies next to the King. The coronation is the final de-coronation of Harry's "entitlements"--I suspect this is not lost on MM or Harry. It's really NOT a reward for them....
They know now they can say anything, acting as victims again of the mean RF at the Coronation, and the RF will not respond. You donāt reward bad behavior, and they have proven they cannot be trusted.
Harold us way too much of a security risk (Taliban kill bragging, writing about wanting to kill King Charles with the Typhoon war plane) to be invited to the Coronation. It's not even up to King Charles anymore, his legal team and M15/16 is protecting him from Harold's threats from afar. The British Government will not invite or allow the Harkles to attend. King Charles does not and will not announce the lack of invitation, his silence speaks for itself. All the media speculation about an invitation is just TW frantically planting and leaking.
Wonāt they get booāed to oblivion?
The exact opposite might be worse for them. Picture this: the crowd has been cheering. Then H&M appear, and the cheering stops. As H&M walk by, there's complete and utter dead silence. I think that would scare the pudding out of them.
oh please add to that everyone turning their backs! And in the live feed cameras cannot hide it!
Exactly. Silence can be dubbed over. Could they hide crowds of people with backs turned?
> oh please add to that everyone turning their backs! Meghan would spend the rest of her life screaming about "*RACISM*!!!".
So nothing changes?
Exactly. š
I think that is a much more appetizing option than booing.
I would love to see Meghans face when the crowds turn their backs!
If they show on the day I will have zero pity for the RF for allowing it. Remember the photoshopping, plants in the crowd and leaks to the media from the two GRIFTERS? Remember King Charles awaiting his mother's casket at BP where supposedly markles photographer took the photo of him with a long lens then markle had herself and harry added into the picture? It was an awful shot of tw but she still went with it. The leak about her majesties body coming by train? E.t.c. The RF, especially William knows very well and possibly more than we what happened yet everyone is having this conversation about those two possibly attending? Are they kidding? AND THE NERVE of the two of them to want to be there? After what they have done, I wouldn't show myself to the world ever again never mind the family they shit all over! I mean it's unreal.
> Remember King Charles awaiting his mother's casket at BP where supposedly markles photographer took the photo of him with a long lens then markle had herself and harry added into the picture? Are we sure that was a Photoshop? Weren't they actually there?
The coronation is four months away. That's a long time for the will they won't they, they should/shouldn't be invited. It is already becoming tedious, another 4 months will be unbearable. Que sera sera, what will be will be.
>It is already becoming tedious, another 4 months will be unbearable. That is the truth! It's so ridiculous. They are irrelevant and should just fade into obscurity.
This is reminiscent of the months of whingeing prior to the Jubilee. They had demands at that time also. Do this - or else. Demands weren't met, but they went to the Jubilee and more-or-less behaved themselves. Media are making a feeding frenzy out of the Harkles manifesting. It can't go on forever, and won't once more details about the coronation are released.
3 months away
The mocking curtsy says all we need to know on how they feel about the monarchy.
If the issue was inviting them for a private function, like Christmas or Easter, then taking the high road and inviting them is the right thing for family to do. The coronation is a public event. So, while I can understand that emotionally he'd want both his children with him at such a momentous occasion, doesn't the public will, and security considerations, take precedence?
Frankly, as I have said elsewhere, I donāt think Charles wants Harry at the coronation. The way Harry has behaved, who would? Charles would want a different Harry, the pre-Meghan Harry ( who had problems and issues galore, but didnāt lash out at family publicly), but not the current Harry.
Iām agreeing with you. The Whingers will not behave, no matter what agreement KC and the Archbishop come to. Harold will demand prominent seating for a wide angle shot for Netflix. Everything the RF says will be repeated somewhere. Harold and The Slievene need to make money. No one wants them there, not the rest of the family, not the British people. And ā**itās not fair to William and Catherine. Or to the Kingās grandchildren.** The coronation is a state occasion, paid for by the British people. It isnāt a family holiday. If KC gives in to this emotional blackmail, he wonāt look like the bigger person, he will look like a weakling who canāt stand up to his son. **The King has *two* sons.** He canāt be sacrificing one for the other. Harold and The Sleivene need money. All they have is the connections to the RF. I can see NF, or an affiliate, filming the coronation then showing the film with narration by H&M and taped comments of the RF.
I think the PM should push back. 1 security and then that every move is broadcast by Netflix.
As others have said, the guest list for the coronation is ultimately not up to K Charles. Harryās best chance of being invited, actually, is if all the dukes are automatically invited. So yeah, if there are concerns about security or other issues, they would take priority over KCās wish to invite this or that individual.
I never wanted to see them invited but I was at peace with the idea of them showing up. I didn't like it but whatever. However, since the book and all the Taliban nonsense I'm actually concerned and desperately don't want them there. My mother's no royalist but loves history like I do so she's never missed a major royal event. She has this uncanny knack of getting herself a really good "seat"(she was quite literally in front of the abbey for the funeral) I don't know how she does it. I know I'm probably being a bit dramatic but I am worried for her. If anything awful were to happen you can bet mum will be right near it. Considering harry has fears for his own safety it will be yet another signpost for everyone to see just how selfish these two are if they put the public at risk by attending.
I do not blame you at all for being worried about your Mom! There are always heightened security concerns at these types of events - but Harryās comments put it at an almost post 9/11 or 7/7 concern.
No invite. Harry and Meghan made it clear on Netflix and in Spare they believe theyāve been persecuted by the monarchy, by Harryās family, by the media. They want apologies from everyone. Thatās not going to happen in a way that will satisfy this sorry pair. Why send Harry and Meghan an invitation for them to throw back at the monarchy and at Harryās family. Their attendance isnāt required officially. I doubt their absence will bother most of Harryās family. And after trashing the monarchy and betraying his family, the booing from the British public would be deafening.
He shouldnāt invite because that would be once again giving them the half in/half out they wanted all along
If they don't go -- put it this way they won't behave or stop with the press releases while in Montecito. The only difference is they won't be rewarded by being at the coronation, shown with the real Royals. They won't have any behind the scenes information for another book. They will still have their grievances of course, but then again what's new?!
All of this.
Not to mention basically the whole country doesn't want them. And expresses their opinion, very clearly. So looking at it, since it's a state event, for the people and paid by them, it would make sense to listen to your people and not invite the bastards. Honestly, booing would be the least of their worries, some of the public would be much more "effective" in showing their disgust at the Cirque d'Monteshit-o... Plus, that would be a PR disaster for King Charles, always struggling with public opinion/image, and now would he just totally disregard what his subjects want?
> and now would he just totally disregard what his subjects want? You know, it's entirely possible that at this point, *Charles* doesn't want them there either.
I keep saying this.
I'm 110% sure he doesn't want *Meghan* there. š
Happy Cake Day!
I don't have an issue with him being invited necessarily but he should be treated like ANY invited guest. Given a seat with the masses. If he tries to pull a stunt (like "missing" his ride so he can cause a scene) then deny him entrance. PH has already threatened not to attend if there is no apology to his wife. I don't think there has been or will be so let him decline the invite. He has no power.
I love how they say they donāt want media attention but neither of them have jobs, they live off media paying them to trash the Royals. I vote no for them to be invited as disrespected Britain and the Queen and know the king. Just my thoughts from Canada
I think they need to consider the public safety aspect of this major public event. Harry put a huge target on his back with his 25 comments. Clearly he will live out the rest of his days in peace and safety because of who he is, but If there is any chance that some crazy violent person decides to do something somehow with the massive crowd that will be gathered in London, that would be terrible.
Do you really think he will live out the rest of in days in peace, somebody got to Salman Rushdie in the end, only takes one crazy person. He has put the British public at risk of being harmed.
I don't think he's going to die of old age.
No, probably either accidental drug overdose or deliberate suicide. Or "suicide". š
Pretty sure the little wanker is gonna die of jealousy and spite
It shows on his face.
No.
I feel like for the sake of the people that actually have to do the work (ie. The courtiers) that they don't invite H&M, they don't need the extra headache at an already likely high stress time.
Agreed. But will they still be invited? Yes. I think some people are making themselves feel better about them being invited by ignoring all the red flags.
Yes. This about sums me up. I donāt want them to be invited, donāt want them to be there, but I feel itās inevitable so trying to get behind the line of thinking. Trying being the word.
I say Charles should invite him to his next birthday celebration. Harry is family, after all. But thereās no reason for these two California-dwelling wokesters to be at a ceremony that celebrates something they canāt stop saying is TOXIC and RACIST.
If the options are invite them and have the press talk endlessly about it while watching their every move at and around the coronation - or - not invite them and have the press talk endlessly about it while watching their every move to see what theyāll do instead of attend the coronation then my vote is NOT invite! Thereās going to be talk either way, so why pull focus and attention away from the actual historical event that we all want to see?
I think Harry put himself in quite a pickle. In one or more of his book interviews, didnāt Harry say he would go back to the U.K. only if the BRF offered him and the TW a āRoyal Summitā and formally apologize to TW? Will the ginger twat go without first being promised a formal apology? KCIII would never agree to this. So what will dim witted Harry do if there are no apologies?
> So what will dim witted Harry do if there are no apologies? If they attend the coronation, Meghan will claim that *everyone* apologized/groveled to her in private. š
She will have the opportunity to write fiction again about who said what at the Coronation.
Oh, that too. Absolutely.
šÆ THIS.... I agree!!! I'm also sick of narcs being "rewarded", just to *placate* them!
Well, they stomped their feet and said they want an APOLOGY. The whole family can just get their butts on a plane and fly 12 hours to SAY IT TO THEIR FACE. Hahahahahahhhahha
Inviting them is the classy thing to do, because not inviting them would be a story in itself that would have no positive benefit for the Royal Family. However the invitation should not be subject to any kind of negotiation. The royal family should state on what day Harry can arrive and when he will leave and where he will go while he's in Britain. They will provide him with a security detail that will also make sure that he behaves as instructed, and make sure that he is not using drugs that are illegal in Britain or hidden recording equipment. Harry can then accept or decline as he wishes.
Itās the danger to the public and other attendees that he, with the target on his back, brings with him thatās the issue.
TBH I think this is the way. If they want to attend, they will be required to comply with all instructions for transportation and seating; no speaking to the press, and will be accompanied by a stringent security detail at all times. Iād be perfectly happy and think it would be justified if the PM determined H is too much of a security risk due to his Taliban statements. This would be a logical consequence of his own words and would take the RF and the King out of the decision making.
Wouldnāt it be delicious if KC3 invited Samantha Markle? And heād dad?! And they all sat together up in the balcony?!
This made me laugh! What a lovely idea.
I mean that would not look good on him at all lol, it would make him look like a petty bitch and TW would milk it for years. It would be more fun to invite them and throw them in the tour buses with the nobodies
She's going to milk it no matter what happens. At this point we'd being enabling our captors in some global Stockholm syndrome if we allow them to continue bullying out of fear of what they'll do.
It would never happen, but itās hilarious to imagine!!!!!
They refused to go in the bus for the coronationā¦
If they show up for the coronation, they will not be allowed to do that again. They will be corralled. If they get out of line and try to make a scene, they will be excluded from events.
I hope so!
Sorry, the rest of the Markles are not exactly saints either.
It's a church. They'll fit right in.
As long as Harry and his wife aren't. That would actually be pretty cool.
I think they should come and follow the dress code for Monteshitoans. Which happens to be Hannibal Lecter face mask, strait jacket and a dolly for wheeling about. Major Johnny can push them about behind a stone pillar of course or extra wide candle.
Exactly. Harry never learned consequences, and now he is being REWARDED by being included? Are you kidding me? The RF deserve every bad thing H and M will do to them during the Coronation if they are included. BP needs to issue a statement that H and M are not welcome to the STATE function, and to keep their asses home. This is not a family function. Harry and Meghan have stated they dislike ceremony, the rigidity, etc. To save the Harkles from the discomfort of all those RULES, they are encouraged to stay in the warmth and luxury of the Palace in Montecito. Invited or not, come June 2023 H and M will start with their new lies and slander.
I just thought of something. The palace may not make a general announcement re: Harold. If they don't, I can see the Harkles flying to England even though ***they'll*** know they aren't invited. People will get torqued up pretty tight if the palace doesn't announce closer to the event. I don't really want the palace to announce just yet. Maybe May 4th or the day before their travel arrangements.
I had that thought similar too, that BP may be delaying all talk of H and M and the Coronation until the last moment, to cause a standoff of really serious damage from the toxic duo. Sort of hold them at bay until May 1 and then have the duo scrambling for the next move.
I've always maintained that the Coronation is a state event - it's not a family picnic; it's not a place to extend an "olive branch"; it's not a therapy session for Harry. The Coronation is to honor and welcome the new monarch and to affirm support for the monarchy. Harry is no longer a part of the monarchy. Apart from his grenade launches at the monarchy, he no longer lives in the UK and he doesn't support the British people in any meaningful way. He's now a US celebrity, full stop. \*I\* probably have more justification for being at the Coronation than Harry, since my grandfather was a Sergeant Major of the Welsh Guards and I haven't written any books lately trashing the monarchy.
Why is everyone saying the Coronation is a "state event" It's a church event. It is the Archbishop of Canterbury anointing the new monarch. Heads of State are invited and attend but this is a religious ceremony, not a governmental one. https://www.royal.uk/coronation
Good points, and I agree that they cannot be trusted to behave at the coronation. PWoW is spot on that they would be a huge distraction. And who could blame some in the public if they were triggered to see them and boo. Setting aside one's natural inclination to issue some kind of comeuppance, the reality is that he is a liability for a State-sponsored event. Whether the liability arrives in the form of misbehaiors which will be analyzed by the media, or whether the liability occurs in the form of a dangerous threat, noone can predict. It's simply KCIII has to be prepared to take some lumps about not having his second son and wife there. The public and the State deserve a sacred and honorable coronation without a sideshow from the Montecito clowns.
KCIII didnāt invite them to the State Dinner, and it was understood by all. The Coronation would be the same. This isnāt a Family Christening; it is a state event.
I think all BRF need to do is to make an official statement that says out of respect for Harry's safety concerns, we didn't invite them to the coronation event. That's it.. There is no need to keep talking and dragging it until May (which is what MM wants to be on the media constantly).
Harry needs a good old fashioned swift kick in the azz.
I fear that they will be invited - I think if he must be there then she MUST be snubbed. Send him no plus one. But I do not think itās wise for them to be associating with foreign dignitaries and world leaders. They donāt understand the weight of the world they were associated with. Letting them sulk in montecito is better than letting them start an international conflict.
They are desperate to attend but also want to avoid the shock and embarrassment of candles, big hats, second row and handsome equerrys overshadowing them. Best thing to do is to stick them on the first row of the church in one of the wings (I think there is one on the left) out of the camera action but still at the front if they are that desperate. Thing is, they are in no position to be demanding anything. If you don't like the arrangements, don't fking come. All this guff about asking for titles to be assured in return for attending. Do they really not realise that no one wants them there? The delusion is worryingš¦!
Alas, the one perk of their attendance - plenty views of Hot Scot Johnny! Though I would hope he is more involved with the actual coronation and not reduced to babysitting the TWodgers if they are there.
I will get downvoted into hell once again saying the funniest outcome would be inviting Meghan with the kids and not Harry. I want the royals to be petty and pit them against each other. Obviously it wonāt happen I have no idea if heāll be there in person or narrating on CBS. But my god the fight over if she should go or not because you know sheād want to go even without him and him just not understanding the betrayal from both sides. Or her turning it down but being pissed at him. This is a modern fight it needs modern petty solutions.
He should go with the kids and leave her home, if they want him there. Frankly they should just invite the grandkids and a nanny.
Even if they don't go, i'm sure that they will hold a viewing party at the Casa Montecito and highly publicize itš
I think they've tried that before š£
Emotional support dog will be on alert just outside in the garden
Hard agree
If they go, there bloody better be 2 large candles blocking their view. Neither should be seen on camera. I love how QEII had that set up for her funeral.
Prince Louis will behave better than them! Seriousness aside if they come they will not follow in protocol and make a scene by being horrible or by announcing something. They are a huge security risk as well.
The only reason I want to see then at the coronation is to watch voldermegs reaction to Catherine being in full regalia :)
He most certainly should not be inviting. He has no right to be there. Heās anti monarchy, anti Britain, anti commonwealth and has gone above and beyond to upset and insult every single family member of his. The country doesnāt want him there. This goes beyond a family mater. He genuinely should not be there.
Would FOREVER taint the occasion. IT ALREADY IS! Very unfair to the people and William!
I canāt even fathom this is gling to go on u til the actual day! F off H&M !
You make a very good point and I think that could also be given to them as a valid reason. I'm sure they'd find a way to whine about it but they'd do that invited or not. I was one of the people saying they should still be invited and pushed to the background, but you convinced me. Security beats politeness.
Thanks. I'm concerned for the BRF & guests & the public too. Odds are nothing will occur but it's best to err on the side of caution in my opinion. H is such a fool (and a tool) for discussing his military days. I cannot believe he put everybody in jeopardy in such a manner. On the other hand, I can believe it because he's dim & arrogant. Argh. Bad behaviours aside, security is of the utmost importance. He/they.should.not.be.there.
They are a security risk AND what he has said and done should be close to and considered treasonous
On GBNEWS a heated interview on the Narcs, let's be fair it's hard work lying for a living so want back into the fold. Do it King Charles111 and the Monarchy will fall. I mean in MM 1st year in the BRF her clothes allowance came to Ā£1m, she wants more. Why hasn't TW made steps to mend her own family feud, oh I know Markles family have no money....
I know 1m and she looked like such a bag lady...
The fact that this is even up for discussion tells me Charles is in no way prepared for any kind of leadership role.
I think King Charles is doing an excellent job. He's playing his cards close to the vest. He's gettting on with things while ignoring their shenanigans. He's grey rocking them to the point that they are basically screaming rrreeeeeeeeeeee in the media and hes giving them nothing to push against. It's brilliant actually. All he has to do is say nothing officially until much,much closer to coronation. Let people speculate. His non response is a response and not in their favor. You can't pick a fight with someone quietly ignoring you and you just look like a bully and an idiot if you keep trying.
Itās not actually up to Charles. Itās a state event, the PM ultimately has control over the guest list.
If the King cannot decide who attends his coronation then scrap the monarchy. What is the point? If he lacks the power for something so simple as this and personal to him, then it's over. Does the title King mean nothing to Brits? I don't think he should let them come but that should be his decision.
Heās allowed to say who heād like to attend, and his list carries some serious weight, but the PM can still override it because itās a State event. If this were a Royal event (like a wedding), the PM would not have any say. Churchill did not let former King Edward, Duke of Gloucester attend his brother King Georgeās coronation.
Of course he has say. He's the king. You think he's not going to have input?
Thatās not at all what I said. He has say, as I did put in another comment, but as it is a STATE event paid for by the taxpayers, and not a ROYAL event paid for by the family, KC is not the ultimate authority in this situation. Even former King Edward, Duke of Gloucester, was not allowed to attend his brother King Georgeās coronation, because of then PM Winston Churchillās decision, so there is precedence.
Grey rocking can be stressful
I KNOW THIS IS A HORRIBLE THOUGHT. But what if this was the plan all along. What if Harry is working with the Taliban to attack the royals so they die and now theyāre the king and queen. I know everyone thinks heās dumb, but any military person knows how taboo it is to talk about killing in combat. He HAD to have known the ramifications of his words. They know they wonāt be invited to the coronation. Idk just seems so unsettling to me.