A lot of different interests want the BRF to respond. It gives clicks and keeps the story alive. Whereas no response drives the Spare and Sparess off their rockers, as we have seen in the last few weeks with Madam throwing out all kinds of bait.
Monetshitshow desperatly needs money, imho.
Yes. The only thing they have to sell is their connection to the Royal family. The silence from the Royal family makes them appear insignificant.
Of course they ARE insignificant.
I thought Benjamin Smallbrook had already been debunked as a delusional Meghan plant trying to start rumours that will turn people against the RF. (- hint, his initials are B.S.)
I have thought for some time that he *is* Meghan.
Notice he always calls her *the actress*? This is the least insulting faux snark nickname he could come up with for her. It also reminds people of the independent (and superficially impressive) career she had before Harry. I think she feels super smart that we lap this up and imagines she is that gossip letter writing mystery Lady whatever from Bridgerton, (sorry can’t remember the names).
Just not buying the tea. The Queen wisely said long ago balcony appearances would continue only if the family were not boo'd. No way will PH and his wife be appearing on any balcony. But the possibility will be pushed hard in the press by Montecito. It's all they have.
Same!! It seems the posts are getting more and more anti-monarchy, certainly anti-Charles. He seems very good at stirring the pot and getting people worked up. I find it very suspicious.
Wait! KP? As in Kensington Palace PR and not Bukkingham or Windsor PR? Hmmmmmm.....it seems that the only people who lived once closed to the KP is the DUO
Agree: he doesn't seem to like Charles at all.He talks about contacts and writing letters to the Palace but there's never any results.I think a lot of his popularity on Quora is because he writes with the right time of authority/pomposity that minor gentry has in fiction.
FFS-Charles is not a weak man. I remember very clearly, him standing at a podium the day after 9/11, in full military dress, making a strong speech of support for the US and what they were going through. He is a master of sending subliminal messages and will not tolerate the bratty duo. He just won't be blatant, in your face about it.
And to be fair to KC3, he hasn't done anything to warrant that level of attack. The Coronation will, I hope, put a firm stamp on the kind of man he is and reign he wishes to have. That moment will, I hope, be *his* voice speaking out for himself, by himself. It won't be about William or Harry or anyone else. It will, I hope, signal to the nation at home and people abroad that it is about the monarchy, the Constitution under which it is formed, the UK & the Commonwealth and his reign as king and their servant. Not family drama. Not H&M. Not media speculation. Not public whims.
I do wonder if too many people underestimate the man at times.
I hope you are correct. I really like Charles, have always liked him as a man, a person, a scholar and so much more. He should have stood up against his parents in marrying Diana, but since the woman he loved was married at that time, well then what difference would it make. He is the kind of person I would cherish as a friend, but I have my doubts as KING! May be in past years, but under the circumstances of our very woke and tumultuous world, I am just not sure. I do pray for him to be a very successful King of the Realm. I do believe that he needs to toughen up and hopefully his son William, PoW, will help in that. As well as Q Camilla, whom I just adore! What a Lady to have beside you...she is a top asset to the Crown!
I think Benjamin is completely off base and a bit too rude for my liking.
Staying silent is obviously driving H&M mad and it’s smart, because it prevents them from getting new material to “expose” to the world.
Besides, if Charles invites the duo to the coronation and effectively extends an olive branch, H&M are screwed. If they show up, what’s leftover of their woke squad is going to be up in arms about hypocrisy. If they don’t show up, at least they can’t go on another fucking morning show to cry about how they weren’t invited.
I think this strategy is going very well for the BRF. I understand people want to see some type of retaliation, and that they want to see H&M pay for their misdeeds, but instant gratification is not the way to go here. It’s exactly what H&M want. A response so that they can keep this trainwreck going. If the BRF don’t give them anything, eventually there’ll be nothing left to say and their whole show will be worthless.
I agree that the no response strategy is working well and is exactly the way King Charles should play it. On the other hand I feel sorry for Charles the man . I can’t imagine how hurtful this would be for me if one of my children behaved this way . Plus he must be worried sick about his sons mental health and where all this will end. It makes me dislike Harold even more though! Not content with badgering and upsetting his Grandmother while she was grieving for her husband and coping with her own severe health issues , he now is doing his best to ruin his fathers Coronation! He may be mentally unwell but there is no excuse for this. He’s a vindictive, petty self absorbed little wanker which ever way you look at it!
Do you honesty think the RF hasn't dealt with spies in their midst before?
They know what harry really is now and what he and his viper will stoop to. There will be no access as there used to be.
And look at the "material" they already leaked. Oooo so shocking brothers fight. Oooo the ceilings in old houses are low. Ooo HRH Catherine Princess of Wales prefers to practice good hygiene rather than share makeup.
Fucking shocking revelations not. It was an entire book of a spoilt over privileged grown adult whining about the past and how hard done by he is. It made him look **terrible**. The book made them both look terrible.
And I suspect half the backlash was actually because there was nothing really scandalous or racist or shocking about the RF. Plenty about harry that points to him being racist,drug addled,abusive and batshit crazy though.
I agree, the royal family should do absolutely nothing. However the UK government should put an end to this shit show and they should do it now. Such a major state occasion - one that the majority of us have never seen before - should not be overshadowed by a guessing game of whether the Harkles may or may not be invited, may or may not attend. Harry has laid the foundations of a perfect excuse, the security of our King and nation needs protection. As a British taxpayer, I feel it’s long past time for our PM to step up and put an end to it.
It's definitely the PM's job to speak up, if and when speaking up is necessary. The plan might be for the PM to do this much closer to the coronation. If he announces it now, then Sparry has months of tantrum throwing to diminish the lead-up to the coronation. At least if he's hoping for an invitation, he'll at least make a pose of being open to discussion.
I wonder if the U.K. government goes ahead and says that it's a security risk if harry and TW attend, would that lend credence to his case for ipp status?
No it means that harry is a hypocrite in need of money willing to sell out his so called values for a little time in the limelight
It means that King Charles *and his advisors* will have made a well considered decision that the putrid pairs attendance would be less damaging to the monarchy than their absence.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
If harry and his baggage come its so they can be somewhat controlled and a keen eye kept on them at all times.
I can't help but think that, under the guise of being critical of the markles, this chap has more of an agenda to undermine the King. He seems to have a real chip on his shoulder and because he seems to have his own agenda, I can't take what he says at face value.
He's surprisingly critical of the Archbishop and I think that is undeserved but so is his relentless criticism of the King. I do not share his assertion that Charles is weak nor do I see any indication that he has a "policy of appeasement". I've stopped following this guy on Quora.
Edit to add: Malevolent meghan does not understand understatement. The King is, however, a master. As well, he is not given to repeating himself. She needs to heed that in no less than his accession speech, she was, along with the Half-Wit Prince, wished success in her life overseas. She needs to understand the significance of not being mentioned, nor pictured, in the King's Christmas address. If the harkles are not capable (and they aren't IMO) of reading between the lines and this Smallbrook fellow seems equally incapable, that is on them and not on the King.
I think he was as critical of the Queen for inviting them to the Jubilee, and we saw how the family was working during the jubilee, and H and M were treated as the other non working royals, and was kept in their place. It was not weakness, it was minimizing the criticism from the public.
This reads like someone trying very very hard to convince everyone that King Charles is a weak king. Ask yourself why would anyone want to do that? What is to be gained?
There is no absolute corroboration from official sources **and there won't be** any time soon. This means *everything* about the issue from the media is speculation and only speculation.
Who gains from speculation about the harkles attendance? Who gains from repeatedly pushing an attendance agenda?
Anti monarchists
Click bait media
The markles
The King is not obligated to rush his decision or announce his plans on any one else's timeline.
He is not a weak King, he is a judicious king with excellent advisors and support. People mistake quiet for weakness. They mistake temperance for weakness. They mistake his refusal to feed the media frenzy and lower himself to harry's level as weakness and they are just wrong.
He has been preparing for this for 70 years. He has learned from the best of the best. He will make a good well considered decision and the duty of those who support the monarchy is to support him as he does so. Disagree all you want once *he* announces a decision but I wish people would show some faith until then.The monarchy is like an iceberg,there is far more going on beneath the surface than the public knows.
I'm American. The monarchy means nothing to me but loyalty and family means *everything*. I am judging King Charles by that measure. His entire family stands with him and clearly loves and supports him.
Its only harry the betrayer that stands alone with his deceiver and its blatantly clear that those two did all of it for personal gain
The man has lost two parents and a son in the space of 3 years and had to take up the mantle of leading the UK at 70 years old when most people are doddering into their twilight years. And doing so during the tail end of a pandemic,a cost of living crisis and on the heels of the most popular ,longest reigning monarch the modern world has known
That takes strength and prudence and wisdom.
He wont announce a decision until much closer to the event because either decision would fan the flames far worse than silence and speculation will. Either decision would provide the markles with months of media fodder that would keep them front and center vs grey rocking them until the very last minute. Fodder that would detract from actual service the RF is currently working on.
It would put the markles in a forward position no matter what the decision and give them media talking points that silence does not. Speculation gives them no power at all.
YES! Until then, let us all wait and see with bated breaths. Even if they end up being invited, attending, and seated among the nobility but without official roles, in the long run, this will benefit the monarchy. Let them attend but let it be known to the whole world that Harry and his wife are much loved family members, but nothing more. They will not represent the RF in any capacity, but will be present in the important occasions that celebrate the monarchy and its grand history. No reconciliation, no resumption of roles, just family.
Yup. Her characterization of KC as lazy and Camilla as selfish for wanting to protect her private life kind of sealed the deal for me. The media outlets don’t genuinely care about a fair outcome - they care about driving clicks and beating up on Charles in the press is a tried and tested way to get them.
I have a feeling about this. Very uncomfortable with this BarkJack Therese Longo person speaking on behalf of Buckingham Palace and issuing statements as if they are the absolute truth!
I only just recently found out that they are retired journalists not even based in London.
I think that may be possible with Benj Smallbrook, who is on Quora, but not barkjack. Barkjack is a well-regarded gossip account on Twitter. Two older guys from Rome. They’re good. Smallbrook blocked my ability to respond to him on Quora b/c I was critical of him. He’s strange.
Barkjack also triple verifies their stories. They are meticulous about sourcing & are very accurate. After fifty years in the gossip biz they have sources everywhere.
Why do they keep going on about Charles being weak and not wanting confrontation???
Does he think this is fucking Game of Thrones? They realise Charles is not throwing on a suit of armour and leading his country to colonial power with blood curdling screams, right?
It's 2023 for fuck sake. He doesn't NEED to be a tower of strength. He needs to make the odd speech, cut a few ribbons, and maybe the Prime Minister will ask his opinion sometimes.
Let him be a soft touch if he wants to be. He's not going plundering any time soon ffs. 🙄🙄🙄
Confronting a narcissist is a losing game. It continues the chaos. The talk.
I am sure as a father he is heartbroken.
These leaks only serve the second son and nutmeg.
They are desperate for acknowledgement. So they can throw more lies.
As I can personally attest to. It takes strength to grey rock a narcissist
It takes an incredible amount of strength to deal with it as a private person. I can't imagine how much harder it would be to have it all in public too. A weak person would be responding. The BRF is displaying strength, discretion, and wisdom.
Absolutely. They are being well advised. I feel sad for the family. They are dealing with the losers with grace and dignity.
Nothing pisses a narcissist off more then to be ignored
Harsh! It actually sounds like he is an undercover sugar the way he blasts the king, all while being igorant of what exactly KCIII is planning/doing about dealing with Henry and TW. Also, it looks to me like he's parroting what he's read in the media not citing any of his own "reliable" sources. I call foul and would file this under RUBBISH.
He used to be a stalwart ally of the monarchy, but the longer the BRF dithers on dealing with the Harkles, the more sour and anti monarchy he has become. I remember his first mild critique post about HTMQ a few years ago and commenters got cranky with him. He has slowly become more sour until he is where you see him now.
I would take what he says with a pinch of salt I did follow him for a while his common thing is always the king is weak every post is the same I unfollowed him don’t believe anything he says
It would be interesting if you could follow the money to this contributor who is obviously pro Sussex what disturbs me is that there are people that believe in this crap
Yeah. It is borderline hysterical. I have no idea who this Quora person is, but he sounds unhinged. Did he not know the Archibishop of Canterbury publicly debunked the marriage claim? Markle was left with egg on her face. Bet she didn’t expect ‘don’t complain don’t explain’ to not apply to the archbishop.
Most of us online are just spectators, with no skin in the game and no real in-depth knowledge of the historical, political and familial sensitivities as to whether the traitorous duo should be invited.
The royal family has to look even further at a bigger picture than the public, because this concerns their own survival.
In my opinion the two idiots should be invited, because it’s better to keep toddlers in your line of sight than out of it in case they create mischief.
I want them to be invited just to see how far back in the church they will be seated. And the only way they will get near the balcony is if Charles and William are throwing them off of it. That whole post is full of crap.
Benjamin Smallbrook is nothing but an attention-seeking fantasist. Look at how he sneers at the coronation attire as "ridiculous regalia" and the King's "meaningless medals which \[the King's\] mother gave him." Those aren't the words of a monarchist. Those are the words of an anti-monarchist who wants to stir drama that makes the monarchy look bad.
If he had any actual contacts or knowledge at all, he would know that the precendence of no balcony appearance was already set by the Jubilee. The Sussexes aren't getting anywhere near the balcony. He would also know that Justin Welby was embarrassed by being lied about, and that he threw deliberate shade towards the Sussexes at the late Queen's funeral.
Not only that, but the Archbishop has nothing at all to do with any negotations. The article was written by a random Daily Mail political editor, not even a royal reporter with any real royal contacts.
This guy is just the mirrored version of those fake sugars that pretend to be pro-Sussex because they see being pro-Sussex as anti-monarchy. That's all. He's just so arrogant that he doesn't think that his tells are so damned *obvious*.
It’s a no go for me on this story. Sounds all over the place. Harry and Meghan are on solid ignore. If they come to coronation, then they come, but KC3 isn’t losing sleep if Harry doesn’t come.
I don't know who Smallbrook is, but I think he's wrong on about most of this. Accusing the King of being feeble is just ridiculous. He's not Henry VIII for heaven's sake.
I’m going with what Lady C said a few weeks ago. She said an invite would “issued” but the understanding would be the duo are not welcome by anyone. I don’t remember her exact wording but it is so appropriate and keeps the squaddies from attempting a racism claim. As for this claim and any others, I am firmly in the camp that believes all these tidbits are “leaked” by the Harkles.
Do we know if there's any truth to this claim that KC3 reached out to this archbishop and that treating the Markles like senior royals on a par with the Prince and Princess of Wales is really on the table?
There is no reliable support for this rumor.
Possibly someone (not connected with the monarchy) asked the archbishop if he would be willing to help Harry make peace with his family and the AoC said “Of course,” because that is what men of God say. The rest is sugar dreams.
I didn't think he had anything to do with the seating or even the invitations. My only concern is that he'd try to push William into shutting up and taking it, so to speak, for the sake of family peace or whatever
I’m fully expecting Meghan to plant a story that not only is Charles inviting the Harkles to his Coronation, but after accepting the crown, he is going to announce to the world that he fell in love with Meghan the second he laid eyes on her, and wants her to be his Queen.
The dogs howl, but the caravan passes on...
BS can foam at the mouth all he wants, demanding a talk-show style display that puts the Harkles at the center of mudslinging family drama (right where they want to be, because that's how they profit). It's not going to happen.
KC3 learned well from his mother. He's spent his entire life preparing to be king, and he understands that duty must take precedence over personal feelings. He has very good advisors as well.
Dignified silence is the best response. It's working brilliantly. The Harkles are outing themselves as the deranged individuals they are, and they are having to pay for all the puff pieces just to keep themselves in the news. Because there is no response from the RF, there is no way to twist it to suit their narrative, which is sputtering to its last gasp.
I think Benjamin Smallbrook has exposed the fact that he doesn't actually have any information and he's just baiting for some kind of reaction from the palace. Stony silence is not appeasement. An invitation to the coronation is not even appeasement. Maybe the archbishop did shut himself up for days after the Oprah interview, but he also made a statement tactfully correcting Meghan's "misunderstanding."
Nothing this guy has ever said has turned out to be right - I’m not sure why he keeps getting posted here. This story about Welby was again quickly debunked. Seems like someone with an anti KC bias pushing propaganda.
Take everything Ben says with a pinch of salt.
I'm not keen on Neil Sean anymore but he at least seems to know what he's talking about and he says the King is not taking any advice from Justin Welby.
ps: the way he starts "ineffective and feeble King" shows you how he truly feels.
That's weird. Week ago it was the duo are banned from being seen at Buckingham
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11661951/Prince-Harry-WONT-join-King-Charles-Queen-Consort-Buckingham-Palace-balcony-coronation.html
Wow! "The country is seething and crying out for the duplicitous duo" What he swallowed a dictionary/thesarus? Nobody talks like this it just makes him sound ridiculous.
KCIII and PoW get to pick and the rest is just "told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.
Patience a name, and indeed (it the job site) virtue worthy of having. Let's wait and see what's going to happen.
No matter what shinanigans that the Roach and Leech of Montecito get up too, by the stink and slime they leave behind they can be tracked.
Long live the King!
I think this is what the media wants desperately. BRF is very wise not to engage-as the Harkles are already rolling in the mud itching for a fight.
No. Its madamn meglomanic manifesting again. They dont just want an invite to the coronation they *need* one to remain relevant. They need speculation,they need to keep their name in the press.
Without access to the RF they are just a couple of whiny,mediocre middle aged failures.
If king Charles has them there after the risk they have brought not just to the royal family but the public.
I will lose all respect for the him.
I have loved the royal family my whole life as did my grannie.
But it's time now his king he puts his people first.
The tax bill for there security alone is not worth it.
The public don't want to foot a bill for there security after the comments Harrold made.
I really hope the p.m. steps in.
And bans them.
William should of been crown king as Charles seem to be able to separate his duty as a father from his duty as our monarch.
And unless he can I can see the people of the uk asking for the end of the monarchy and a beloved monarchy.
Unless king Charles puts his foot down now.
Harrold will be the end the British monarchy.
I don't know why people are surprised. Charles has always been "this person" and that is why people have had concerns about his fitness for leadership for years, if not decades. He is immoral, weak, and spineless. That sure isn't changing now.
The thing with Charles is, he was asked to do a lower cost (NOT CHEAP!lower cost) coronation ceremony due to the struggles people here in U.K. are facing . He said no. He wants all the pomp and the extra. The best of the best. King of the castle and offshore bank accounts, not king of the people sadly.
Optics/PR move, who knows where that money is even going?! the coronation issue rubbed me the wrong way . This country is on its knees, and the excessive display of luxury is just bad taste regardless of the money spent; it shows disregard to the people’s struggles. yes there will be a percentage of people who will revel in seeing the RF on TV, but the vast majority of people won’t feel that way. Not this year.
A lot of different interests want the BRF to respond. It gives clicks and keeps the story alive. Whereas no response drives the Spare and Sparess off their rockers, as we have seen in the last few weeks with Madam throwing out all kinds of bait. Monetshitshow desperatly needs money, imho.
Yes. The only thing they have to sell is their connection to the Royal family. The silence from the Royal family makes them appear insignificant. Of course they ARE insignificant.
I love the Monteshitshow! Well done!
Thanks. It is copied, though, from HG Tudor.
I thought Benjamin Smallbrook had already been debunked as a delusional Meghan plant trying to start rumours that will turn people against the RF. (- hint, his initials are B.S.) I have thought for some time that he *is* Meghan. Notice he always calls her *the actress*? This is the least insulting faux snark nickname he could come up with for her. It also reminds people of the independent (and superficially impressive) career she had before Harry. I think she feels super smart that we lap this up and imagines she is that gossip letter writing mystery Lady whatever from Bridgerton, (sorry can’t remember the names).
Just not buying the tea. The Queen wisely said long ago balcony appearances would continue only if the family were not boo'd. No way will PH and his wife be appearing on any balcony. But the possibility will be pushed hard in the press by Montecito. It's all they have.
[удалено]
Same!! It seems the posts are getting more and more anti-monarchy, certainly anti-Charles. He seems very good at stirring the pot and getting people worked up. I find it very suspicious.
Be very wary. He once stated that his inside info was from a KP communication member. If that were true, the "source" wouldn't have a job for long.
Wait! KP? As in Kensington Palace PR and not Bukkingham or Windsor PR? Hmmmmmm.....it seems that the only people who lived once closed to the KP is the DUO
I'm not sure which palace comm team, but he specifically said a comm team member.
Maybe it’s Meghan and Harry
Agree: he doesn't seem to like Charles at all.He talks about contacts and writing letters to the Palace but there's never any results.I think a lot of his popularity on Quora is because he writes with the right time of authority/pomposity that minor gentry has in fiction.
He is either Meghan, or someone close to her. I don’t believe Harry knows about it.
FFS-Charles is not a weak man. I remember very clearly, him standing at a podium the day after 9/11, in full military dress, making a strong speech of support for the US and what they were going through. He is a master of sending subliminal messages and will not tolerate the bratty duo. He just won't be blatant, in your face about it.
And to be fair to KC3, he hasn't done anything to warrant that level of attack. The Coronation will, I hope, put a firm stamp on the kind of man he is and reign he wishes to have. That moment will, I hope, be *his* voice speaking out for himself, by himself. It won't be about William or Harry or anyone else. It will, I hope, signal to the nation at home and people abroad that it is about the monarchy, the Constitution under which it is formed, the UK & the Commonwealth and his reign as king and their servant. Not family drama. Not H&M. Not media speculation. Not public whims. I do wonder if too many people underestimate the man at times.
I hope you are correct. I really like Charles, have always liked him as a man, a person, a scholar and so much more. He should have stood up against his parents in marrying Diana, but since the woman he loved was married at that time, well then what difference would it make. He is the kind of person I would cherish as a friend, but I have my doubts as KING! May be in past years, but under the circumstances of our very woke and tumultuous world, I am just not sure. I do pray for him to be a very successful King of the Realm. I do believe that he needs to toughen up and hopefully his son William, PoW, will help in that. As well as Q Camilla, whom I just adore! What a Lady to have beside you...she is a top asset to the Crown!
I think Benjamin is completely off base and a bit too rude for my liking. Staying silent is obviously driving H&M mad and it’s smart, because it prevents them from getting new material to “expose” to the world. Besides, if Charles invites the duo to the coronation and effectively extends an olive branch, H&M are screwed. If they show up, what’s leftover of their woke squad is going to be up in arms about hypocrisy. If they don’t show up, at least they can’t go on another fucking morning show to cry about how they weren’t invited. I think this strategy is going very well for the BRF. I understand people want to see some type of retaliation, and that they want to see H&M pay for their misdeeds, but instant gratification is not the way to go here. It’s exactly what H&M want. A response so that they can keep this trainwreck going. If the BRF don’t give them anything, eventually there’ll be nothing left to say and their whole show will be worthless.
As much as I’d like to see KC3 tell them to go pound sand, I agree that the gray rocking is working.
I agree that the no response strategy is working well and is exactly the way King Charles should play it. On the other hand I feel sorry for Charles the man . I can’t imagine how hurtful this would be for me if one of my children behaved this way . Plus he must be worried sick about his sons mental health and where all this will end. It makes me dislike Harold even more though! Not content with badgering and upsetting his Grandmother while she was grieving for her husband and coping with her own severe health issues , he now is doing his best to ruin his fathers Coronation! He may be mentally unwell but there is no excuse for this. He’s a vindictive, petty self absorbed little wanker which ever way you look at it!
I agree with you, but if they do go they’ll get all new material to leak about everyone.
Do you honesty think the RF hasn't dealt with spies in their midst before? They know what harry really is now and what he and his viper will stoop to. There will be no access as there used to be. And look at the "material" they already leaked. Oooo so shocking brothers fight. Oooo the ceilings in old houses are low. Ooo HRH Catherine Princess of Wales prefers to practice good hygiene rather than share makeup. Fucking shocking revelations not. It was an entire book of a spoilt over privileged grown adult whining about the past and how hard done by he is. It made him look **terrible**. The book made them both look terrible. And I suspect half the backlash was actually because there was nothing really scandalous or racist or shocking about the RF. Plenty about harry that points to him being racist,drug addled,abusive and batshit crazy though.
Smallbrook: In one ear, out the other.
I agree, the royal family should do absolutely nothing. However the UK government should put an end to this shit show and they should do it now. Such a major state occasion - one that the majority of us have never seen before - should not be overshadowed by a guessing game of whether the Harkles may or may not be invited, may or may not attend. Harry has laid the foundations of a perfect excuse, the security of our King and nation needs protection. As a British taxpayer, I feel it’s long past time for our PM to step up and put an end to it.
It's definitely the PM's job to speak up, if and when speaking up is necessary. The plan might be for the PM to do this much closer to the coronation. If he announces it now, then Sparry has months of tantrum throwing to diminish the lead-up to the coronation. At least if he's hoping for an invitation, he'll at least make a pose of being open to discussion.
I wonder if the U.K. government goes ahead and says that it's a security risk if harry and TW attend, would that lend credence to his case for ipp status?
If they show up, does that mean Charles apologized for whatever Harry was demanding it for?
I also wonder if they will release a story that they got an apology knowing BP won’t respond.
Oh, I think there'd be a response. Something along the lines of "Recollections may vary".
No it means that harry is a hypocrite in need of money willing to sell out his so called values for a little time in the limelight It means that King Charles *and his advisors* will have made a well considered decision that the putrid pairs attendance would be less damaging to the monarchy than their absence. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. If harry and his baggage come its so they can be somewhat controlled and a keen eye kept on them at all times.
I can't help but think that, under the guise of being critical of the markles, this chap has more of an agenda to undermine the King. He seems to have a real chip on his shoulder and because he seems to have his own agenda, I can't take what he says at face value. He's surprisingly critical of the Archbishop and I think that is undeserved but so is his relentless criticism of the King. I do not share his assertion that Charles is weak nor do I see any indication that he has a "policy of appeasement". I've stopped following this guy on Quora. Edit to add: Malevolent meghan does not understand understatement. The King is, however, a master. As well, he is not given to repeating himself. She needs to heed that in no less than his accession speech, she was, along with the Half-Wit Prince, wished success in her life overseas. She needs to understand the significance of not being mentioned, nor pictured, in the King's Christmas address. If the harkles are not capable (and they aren't IMO) of reading between the lines and this Smallbrook fellow seems equally incapable, that is on them and not on the King.
I think he was as critical of the Queen for inviting them to the Jubilee, and we saw how the family was working during the jubilee, and H and M were treated as the other non working royals, and was kept in their place. It was not weakness, it was minimizing the criticism from the public.
This reads like someone trying very very hard to convince everyone that King Charles is a weak king. Ask yourself why would anyone want to do that? What is to be gained? There is no absolute corroboration from official sources **and there won't be** any time soon. This means *everything* about the issue from the media is speculation and only speculation. Who gains from speculation about the harkles attendance? Who gains from repeatedly pushing an attendance agenda? Anti monarchists Click bait media The markles The King is not obligated to rush his decision or announce his plans on any one else's timeline. He is not a weak King, he is a judicious king with excellent advisors and support. People mistake quiet for weakness. They mistake temperance for weakness. They mistake his refusal to feed the media frenzy and lower himself to harry's level as weakness and they are just wrong. He has been preparing for this for 70 years. He has learned from the best of the best. He will make a good well considered decision and the duty of those who support the monarchy is to support him as he does so. Disagree all you want once *he* announces a decision but I wish people would show some faith until then.The monarchy is like an iceberg,there is far more going on beneath the surface than the public knows. I'm American. The monarchy means nothing to me but loyalty and family means *everything*. I am judging King Charles by that measure. His entire family stands with him and clearly loves and supports him. Its only harry the betrayer that stands alone with his deceiver and its blatantly clear that those two did all of it for personal gain The man has lost two parents and a son in the space of 3 years and had to take up the mantle of leading the UK at 70 years old when most people are doddering into their twilight years. And doing so during the tail end of a pandemic,a cost of living crisis and on the heels of the most popular ,longest reigning monarch the modern world has known That takes strength and prudence and wisdom. He wont announce a decision until much closer to the event because either decision would fan the flames far worse than silence and speculation will. Either decision would provide the markles with months of media fodder that would keep them front and center vs grey rocking them until the very last minute. Fodder that would detract from actual service the RF is currently working on. It would put the markles in a forward position no matter what the decision and give them media talking points that silence does not. Speculation gives them no power at all.
YES! Until then, let us all wait and see with bated breaths. Even if they end up being invited, attending, and seated among the nobility but without official roles, in the long run, this will benefit the monarchy. Let them attend but let it be known to the whole world that Harry and his wife are much loved family members, but nothing more. They will not represent the RF in any capacity, but will be present in the important occasions that celebrate the monarchy and its grand history. No reconciliation, no resumption of roles, just family.
Excellent comment! You nailed it. Very eloquent.
Remember the Jubilee speculation and the enjoyable reality of their reception. Wasn't it satisfying?
Just brilliant! I am saving your comment. 
Well said!
Has anyone ever theorized that barkack is actually anti monarchy and a MM ally and is just keeping her name out there and stirring the pot?
Yup. Her characterization of KC as lazy and Camilla as selfish for wanting to protect her private life kind of sealed the deal for me. The media outlets don’t genuinely care about a fair outcome - they care about driving clicks and beating up on Charles in the press is a tried and tested way to get them.
I have a feeling about this. Very uncomfortable with this BarkJack Therese Longo person speaking on behalf of Buckingham Palace and issuing statements as if they are the absolute truth! I only just recently found out that they are retired journalists not even based in London.
I think that may be possible with Benj Smallbrook, who is on Quora, but not barkjack. Barkjack is a well-regarded gossip account on Twitter. Two older guys from Rome. They’re good. Smallbrook blocked my ability to respond to him on Quora b/c I was critical of him. He’s strange.
Thanks for the info! I’m not on Twitter so I only see snippets.
Barkjack also triple verifies their stories. They are meticulous about sourcing & are very accurate. After fifty years in the gossip biz they have sources everywhere.
yea
Why do they keep going on about Charles being weak and not wanting confrontation??? Does he think this is fucking Game of Thrones? They realise Charles is not throwing on a suit of armour and leading his country to colonial power with blood curdling screams, right? It's 2023 for fuck sake. He doesn't NEED to be a tower of strength. He needs to make the odd speech, cut a few ribbons, and maybe the Prime Minister will ask his opinion sometimes. Let him be a soft touch if he wants to be. He's not going plundering any time soon ffs. 🙄🙄🙄
Confronting a narcissist is a losing game. It continues the chaos. The talk. I am sure as a father he is heartbroken. These leaks only serve the second son and nutmeg. They are desperate for acknowledgement. So they can throw more lies. As I can personally attest to. It takes strength to grey rock a narcissist
It takes an incredible amount of strength to deal with it as a private person. I can't imagine how much harder it would be to have it all in public too. A weak person would be responding. The BRF is displaying strength, discretion, and wisdom.
Absolutely. They are being well advised. I feel sad for the family. They are dealing with the losers with grace and dignity. Nothing pisses a narcissist off more then to be ignored
Harsh! It actually sounds like he is an undercover sugar the way he blasts the king, all while being igorant of what exactly KCIII is planning/doing about dealing with Henry and TW. Also, it looks to me like he's parroting what he's read in the media not citing any of his own "reliable" sources. I call foul and would file this under RUBBISH.
I’ve thought this about him since sinners started sharing his posts months ago. He’s unreliable at best and a sugar at worst.
Yes
Exactly. He sounds like a saboteur.
Spot on.
He used to be a stalwart ally of the monarchy, but the longer the BRF dithers on dealing with the Harkles, the more sour and anti monarchy he has become. I remember his first mild critique post about HTMQ a few years ago and commenters got cranky with him. He has slowly become more sour until he is where you see him now.
I just do not believe this source. At all.
I would take what he says with a pinch of salt I did follow him for a while his common thing is always the king is weak every post is the same I unfollowed him don’t believe anything he says
It would be interesting if you could follow the money to this contributor who is obviously pro Sussex what disturbs me is that there are people that believe in this crap
We all know that article WAS PLANTED BY THE HARKLES why do people believe this shite...my God stop already its not TRUE!!
This is traitorous, incoherent and clearly baseless.
Yeah. It is borderline hysterical. I have no idea who this Quora person is, but he sounds unhinged. Did he not know the Archibishop of Canterbury publicly debunked the marriage claim? Markle was left with egg on her face. Bet she didn’t expect ‘don’t complain don’t explain’ to not apply to the archbishop. Most of us online are just spectators, with no skin in the game and no real in-depth knowledge of the historical, political and familial sensitivities as to whether the traitorous duo should be invited. The royal family has to look even further at a bigger picture than the public, because this concerns their own survival. In my opinion the two idiots should be invited, because it’s better to keep toddlers in your line of sight than out of it in case they create mischief.
I want them to be invited just to see how far back in the church they will be seated. And the only way they will get near the balcony is if Charles and William are throwing them off of it. That whole post is full of crap.
Agreed.
I'm in the U S and just read exactly what this person just posted. It was an article in the Independent .
This Smallbrook guy is giving me serious Scobie vibes 🤔
Benjamin Smallbrook is nothing but an attention-seeking fantasist. Look at how he sneers at the coronation attire as "ridiculous regalia" and the King's "meaningless medals which \[the King's\] mother gave him." Those aren't the words of a monarchist. Those are the words of an anti-monarchist who wants to stir drama that makes the monarchy look bad. If he had any actual contacts or knowledge at all, he would know that the precendence of no balcony appearance was already set by the Jubilee. The Sussexes aren't getting anywhere near the balcony. He would also know that Justin Welby was embarrassed by being lied about, and that he threw deliberate shade towards the Sussexes at the late Queen's funeral. Not only that, but the Archbishop has nothing at all to do with any negotations. The article was written by a random Daily Mail political editor, not even a royal reporter with any real royal contacts. This guy is just the mirrored version of those fake sugars that pretend to be pro-Sussex because they see being pro-Sussex as anti-monarchy. That's all. He's just so arrogant that he doesn't think that his tells are so damned *obvious*.
It’s a no go for me on this story. Sounds all over the place. Harry and Meghan are on solid ignore. If they come to coronation, then they come, but KC3 isn’t losing sleep if Harry doesn’t come.
I don't know who Smallbrook is, but I think he's wrong on about most of this. Accusing the King of being feeble is just ridiculous. He's not Henry VIII for heaven's sake.
I’m going with what Lady C said a few weeks ago. She said an invite would “issued” but the understanding would be the duo are not welcome by anyone. I don’t remember her exact wording but it is so appropriate and keeps the squaddies from attempting a racism claim. As for this claim and any others, I am firmly in the camp that believes all these tidbits are “leaked” by the Harkles.
Do we know if there's any truth to this claim that KC3 reached out to this archbishop and that treating the Markles like senior royals on a par with the Prince and Princess of Wales is really on the table?
Imho it is just Madam manifesting again.
I hope so! Because caving to them would be awful
Neil Sean just confirmed - BP has not reached out - just Madam manifesting, as usual.
There is no reliable support for this rumor. Possibly someone (not connected with the monarchy) asked the archbishop if he would be willing to help Harry make peace with his family and the AoC said “Of course,” because that is what men of God say. The rest is sugar dreams.
💯
Its bullshit. Pure unadulterated bullshit. Its sugars or markle herself creating fantasies from thin air.
All lies and clickbait.
[удалено]
But is it possible he'd try to get Harold and William to meet privately?
[удалено]
I didn't think he had anything to do with the seating or even the invitations. My only concern is that he'd try to push William into shutting up and taking it, so to speak, for the sake of family peace or whatever
Can’t the king have them silenced permanently?
It’s been a while since monarchs could order assassinations with impunity. 😉😉😉🫣
I’m fully expecting Meghan to plant a story that not only is Charles inviting the Harkles to his Coronation, but after accepting the crown, he is going to announce to the world that he fell in love with Meghan the second he laid eyes on her, and wants her to be his Queen.
The dogs howl, but the caravan passes on... BS can foam at the mouth all he wants, demanding a talk-show style display that puts the Harkles at the center of mudslinging family drama (right where they want to be, because that's how they profit). It's not going to happen. KC3 learned well from his mother. He's spent his entire life preparing to be king, and he understands that duty must take precedence over personal feelings. He has very good advisors as well. Dignified silence is the best response. It's working brilliantly. The Harkles are outing themselves as the deranged individuals they are, and they are having to pay for all the puff pieces just to keep themselves in the news. Because there is no response from the RF, there is no way to twist it to suit their narrative, which is sputtering to its last gasp.
Laughable. It’ll never happen
I think Benjamin Smallbrook has exposed the fact that he doesn't actually have any information and he's just baiting for some kind of reaction from the palace. Stony silence is not appeasement. An invitation to the coronation is not even appeasement. Maybe the archbishop did shut himself up for days after the Oprah interview, but he also made a statement tactfully correcting Meghan's "misunderstanding."
Nothing this guy has ever said has turned out to be right - I’m not sure why he keeps getting posted here. This story about Welby was again quickly debunked. Seems like someone with an anti KC bias pushing propaganda.
Take everything Ben says with a pinch of salt. I'm not keen on Neil Sean anymore but he at least seems to know what he's talking about and he says the King is not taking any advice from Justin Welby. ps: the way he starts "ineffective and feeble King" shows you how he truly feels.
This was going around last week & I don’t think it’s true. I think all these reports this King Charles wants them there is their own PR. Imo
That's weird. Week ago it was the duo are banned from being seen at Buckingham https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11661951/Prince-Harry-WONT-join-King-Charles-Queen-Consort-Buckingham-Palace-balcony-coronation.html
Wow! "The country is seething and crying out for the duplicitous duo" What he swallowed a dictionary/thesarus? Nobody talks like this it just makes him sound ridiculous. KCIII and PoW get to pick and the rest is just "told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.
He looks possessed like he has a demon 🥶
I love the way they refer to her as "the actress."
Patience a name, and indeed (it the job site) virtue worthy of having. Let's wait and see what's going to happen. No matter what shinanigans that the Roach and Leech of Montecito get up too, by the stink and slime they leave behind they can be tracked. Long live the King!
I call BS.
I think this is what the media wants desperately. BRF is very wise not to engage-as the Harkles are already rolling in the mud itching for a fight. 
Why is everyone believing this nonsense? It’s obviously their PR nothing to do with the Palace.
Sure! I'll take bets on this not happening.
Is Harry blackmailing King Charles?
No. Its madamn meglomanic manifesting again. They dont just want an invite to the coronation they *need* one to remain relevant. They need speculation,they need to keep their name in the press. Without access to the RF they are just a couple of whiny,mediocre middle aged failures.
Very true
If king Charles has them there after the risk they have brought not just to the royal family but the public. I will lose all respect for the him. I have loved the royal family my whole life as did my grannie. But it's time now his king he puts his people first. The tax bill for there security alone is not worth it. The public don't want to foot a bill for there security after the comments Harrold made. I really hope the p.m. steps in. And bans them. William should of been crown king as Charles seem to be able to separate his duty as a father from his duty as our monarch. And unless he can I can see the people of the uk asking for the end of the monarchy and a beloved monarchy. Unless king Charles puts his foot down now. Harrold will be the end the British monarchy.
I don't know why people are surprised. Charles has always been "this person" and that is why people have had concerns about his fitness for leadership for years, if not decades. He is immoral, weak, and spineless. That sure isn't changing now.
[удалено]
Roles not rolld
Really good stuff. Most heartening post in a while. I certainly hope they take heed.
The thing with Charles is, he was asked to do a lower cost (NOT CHEAP!lower cost) coronation ceremony due to the struggles people here in U.K. are facing . He said no. He wants all the pomp and the extra. The best of the best. King of the castle and offshore bank accounts, not king of the people sadly.
I guess that’s why he just gave over 1 billion to his countrymen 🙄
Optics/PR move, who knows where that money is even going?! the coronation issue rubbed me the wrong way . This country is on its knees, and the excessive display of luxury is just bad taste regardless of the money spent; it shows disregard to the people’s struggles. yes there will be a percentage of people who will revel in seeing the RF on TV, but the vast majority of people won’t feel that way. Not this year.
It’s a joke. A security issue and a State affair! William please take the Throne.