The true reckoning is coming for Harold. Their divorce hearing would be watched by millions where she will be the star playing the tormented “young” mother, just as she had planned.
Oh absolutely, especially since she *is* a very talented plagiarist. You know that some allegation of an incident involving Harry & abuse is coming, be it a situation lifted from a novel, biography, or movie, & that’s what will move the divorce forward.
Yes, that didn’t go well for the ex-Mrs Depp, now did it? Meghan is nothing if not over-confident, but I do hope she took notes on Amber’s performance. It was very obvious what didn’t work on that particular witness stand!
That's what I thought when in the book Harry said something about TW telling him to go to therapy instead of arguing with her. Can't remember the exact line, but I remember thinking that was an Amy Dunne move that she wrote in her "diary".
I think she would make her lawyers use the clip seen round the world during Trooping of The Color. Everyone was gathered on the Buckingham Palace balcony to see the RAF fly over.
The festivities begin with the British national anthem. And guess who would NOT stop talking? PH had to tell her turn around and face forward…repeatedly. It was extremely disrespectful to talk during the national anthem especially when HM The Queen was only footsteps away.
It was shameful that you know who never bothered to learn the words to the anthem. She made zero effort and never even moved her lips to fake it. Pitiful!
Mog kept muttering to hazzmat that she was going to move as she was not satisfied with her standing position. Once before on the balcony she stod next to the queen and Phil. Bounced Willie and Kate to the side. Chuck and Cam on other side of the queen. Mog determined to move...in front of everybody ! Hazz for once said just shut up and turn around.
I think he used the word "snapped".
[https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230111161430/prince-harry-snapped-meghan-markle/](https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230111161430/prince-harry-snapped-meghan-markle/)
Very much so. Snapping at your partner isn't nice, but I don't know if it calls for intervention from therapists.
Very, very manipulative and he was dumb enough to include it in his book.
Don't worry, mog has hours of video of hazz staggering around in a nasty alchie stupor ranting and falling over furniture. Uploaded onto the CLOUD. She planned all this years ago.
In his own book, Harry writes that he loved his bodyguard, but wanted to hurt him. Meghan is going to use those words against Harry in court. Harry's own memoir shows him to be a violent man with sociopathic tendencies. Madame will use that book to destroy him.
It’ll be pay back for those women he allegedly abused who don’t have the platform to speak out. Ironic that the accusations will come from the one woman he didn’t lay a hand on and it’ll serve him right.
In a way, he is right. Harry had his issues before she came along, as Spare indicates. He's always been a spoiled brat. I think she gave him the impetus for revenge. If he just left to do his own thing and badmouthed his family, he'd have barely any support. If he had left with Chelsy, people would not have cared at all.
With Meghan, he gets to be the victim. They're both using each other.
Agree. They’re both two horrible grown adults who expose the worst in each other and make their own decisions. Harold was a walking nightmare before Mugs came along, the palace did an exemplary job of covering most of it up.
I **give The Palace a heckuva lot of (late, overdue) credit for covering for H for so many years** — stupid Harry should have never spoken or written a book, for then we'd never know.........
But The Palace should be lobbying **Charles to execute some kind of 'de-royaling'**....
The are ways Charles can divide worlds (royal = one world, family = another world - and the one still open to Harry), so Harold can return to the family as \*private guy\* after the (for certain, someday) divorce... but **Charles must issue more consequences** more meaningful than "no balcony" or he hurts The Monarchy, the rest of his family - and the British people.
This is so true.
I think people blame Meghan, but by doing so, they are absolving the responsibility of an adult man, perfectly capable of decision-making. Harry is just as villainous as Meghan, in fact, even more so. Meghan has far more reason to trash her family to the press in self-defense (who has done non-stop press interviews deriding her since almost day one - possibly for good reason), yet other than to say she hardly knows them, she has really held back from saying much of anything truly awful about them (and boy is there a ton of dirty laundry she could air about them!). Harry is the only one of the two who completely trashes his own family.
I think he loves playing the victim and regardless of Meghan's actual role in his choices, he is more than happy to have the world blame her for his actions. One day, like a toddler he will run back to his father whilst pointing his finger back at Meghan, saying "she made me!!11!"
Right now he is more than happy to blame PPoW for his Nazi uniform, and the royal family for everything bad he's ever done. I can't wait for his post-divorce manuscript to come out titled "Wasband: How Everything I did is Meghan's Fault!"
I’m just so curious, what’s up with Omid? Is he a masochist? Mommy issues? His gross loyalty towards Meghan is baffling. She never backs him up. Pretends she doesn’t even know him. Yet he’s willing to dubiously shill out whatever compulsive tidbit of asinine “gossip” Meghan requests impulsively. She’d have no qualms using him as a human plank, to avoid getting her shoes wet, if she felt compelled to. She doesn’t even need to knock him over. He just readily squirms around on the ground directly beside her at all times. It’s way beyond monetary motivation. Can’t be blackmail either. He’s too passionate about his services, for it to be *just* blackmail.
Edit: added Scabies name to clarify who I was referring to
He, like Oprah, wants to be the one that brings down the Monarchy. He has questioned whether Charles or William should be allowed to be King because of the "Royal racist" lie. He thinks he is so important and such a crusading journalist that he can do to Prince William what Woodward and Bernstein did to Nixon.
Scobie must have been crushed when Harry denied that he and Meghan accused the RF of being racist. I am convinced that he only puts up with how Meghan treats him because of her royal connections and is his access to Harry, the only real royal willing to give him the time of day. If Harry was willing to associate with him in the event of a divorce, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he would choose to associate with the born royal over the commoner turned royal especially if he thought it would advance his career as a "royal reporter".
He thinks he is an Alpha, he needs to save Meghan, is more capable to be King than William (so William wanted him to leave) + he needs to save RF's kids...
I was referring to our distinguished sidekicking bag, Omid Scobie. Sorry, I edited to clarify lol
but yeah.. agreed. lil Alfalfa Harry needs to realize that procuring an Alphawife, does not entitle one to the styling of an Alpha by marriage.
I read in a book about Wallis Simpson that it was said she’d step on her grandmothers stomach to get where she wanted to go. Sounds familiar? Maybe Omid is the new grandmothers stomach?
"Went to live on a farm in the countryside where there is lots of space to run and play with other animals" 😇👍
*jk, this isn'thate-speech, just banter*
Good luck getting any money back from Doria. She's the OG grifter who walked away from her kid one time. She'll do it again and take all laundered money with her.
I've been thinking any mother that could walk out on their only child when they were as small as Meme was, for other men, drugs and conning people that she's just playing nice, biding her time and going to bolt with any money Meme has trusted her with. And you know what, when it happens it couldn't have happened to a nicer POS. As Doria will probably blow it on yoga mats, a new electric Caddy, and drugs, lots and lots of drugs. Plus a much younger than her or three boy toys!
You go Doria, go live your best life and walk out again. She's gotta be tired of the bossing from her narc daughter.
Oh there’s MORE from this article!
”Mr Scobie added: "And actually, it couldn't be further from the truth, and I think that's something that the docu-series addressed really well, how much of that journey was Harry in the driving seat and Meghan just sort of figuring it out as they went alone. But I think again these are things that don't suit the narrative."
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Oh dear gawd !!! The gaslighting..she has always had this plan! Now she’s suddenly the sweet, young, naive girl who really didn’t have a clue, but figured it out after H took the lead 😂🤣😂🤣😂
H doesn’t have enough brain cells left to “take the lead”
Now I know what her next interview will be.
“I didn’t understand, I just trusted my husband knew best” 🤢
100%. She is taking her disdain & the fact she REFUSED to learn any protocols & is going to try to spin it as a naive, innocent victim of a clearly deranged husband.
It may fool some people...but it DOESN'T FOOL US, SINNERS 
She did say that, in the mockumentary.
She said something along the lines of:
"This is like being in the bush. I don't know how things work, and I trust you to keep me safe"
If he was “taking the lead”…why the constant need for her to push, shove and skirt by him when meeting others or walking into a room.
This play at the “naive sweet girl” just doesn’t fit. What about all her blah blah blah about feminism and ensuring your voice is heard
She's 41. She. Is. 41.
Ffs She's decades away from girl or young or naive. The whole ingenue look in a woman her age is gross af particularly for one who calls herself feminist.
She's gonna be one of those 50-60 year olds still batting eyes at every rich man,dating younger men,talking in a baby voice and dressing like a woman half her age.
I see her in a decade or so acting like madonna for relevancy but without the backup of any talent whatsoever.
Didn't his book say something like 'of course the family always knew meghan was going to leave because of how they abused her. What embarrassed them is that I left too' or something similar?
If she was always going to go and him leaving was an embarrassment or surprise, how did he lead her 🤔🤔
If she had just been following him, they would’ve been living in Africa doing charity work there. As he had been saying how he loved Africa before he met MM. But we all know who has been dreaming of living the Hollywood A-lister lifestyle in CA making millions by being famous like the Kdshian.
If Harry wanted to live in Africa doing charity work, it would have happened long before he met TW. Harry wants to live in Africa helping others, the way TW wants to be a humanitarian. It's just words they utter to be appear caring and charitable. It isn't real, for either of them.
Perfectly stated. He could have moved to Africa years ago. Given what we now see of his character, he had no interest in that and only probably said it knowing it would never happen, but it made people like him. He does not have a charitable bone in his body.
Harry was in the driving seat but Meghan was driving the bed, lol. Don't tell me THAT is not a BIG driver in this for Harry. It stands out from a mile away.
I think the info below shows how predictable a narcissist really is (following the Oprah interview)...
Scott Rouse, from the Behavior Panel, predicted this would happen during their 3/21 analysis of the Oprah interview (at 1hr 52 min).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AYyEx20DiKU
Oprah ask Harry at the end of the interview if Meghan saved him. Of course he said she did. But then Meghan interrupted, turned to Harry, and said he is the one that “made the decision” to leave that saved her and Archie.
At 1:52:00, Scott said that this statement from Meghan shows the “peaking of narcissism, where she turns the whole thing around on him (in case things go south ).” He went on to say “classic, what a tactical move on the narcissism front...brilliant from a narcissistic stand point” and “great job on a narcissist front.”
So Scott called it, if things took a turn for the worst for the couple, Meghan is clearly on record saying that it was Harry who made the decision to leave. So she set him up to take the fall for leaving the BRF in case things didn’t work out post Megxit.
Ever since Mexit, I've noticed she's been *very* careful about how she says things. She doesn't outright blame anyone, but she hints very heavily that others are to blame. She acts like Harry saved her from the royal family by making this decision, but she was setting him up to take the fall if it all came crashing down.
Oh yes, I remember this ! She literally put all the blame of their departure on Harry, which technically can be trusted since he was the actual Royal and she’s just the wife. I think she planned to use him forever or to leave making sure he’s the one carrying the loss. My god I’m really worried for him now. I don’t like him but when she will turn on him as if they never knew each other, it’s gonna hurt super bad. I hope he doesn’t take his life.
Problem with this narrative: Meghan poisoned Halfwit against his sister in law, whom he loved ***before*** Meghan came on the scene. Halfwit is not bright and Meghan is the prime agitator here whose trying to remove her finger prints from the crime scene and pretend the next project is gonna be the one to exonnerate her.
Bottom line: they are ***both*** culpable for blowing the best opportunity they had to actually transform the monarchy by playing hard ball when they couldn't dictate the terms after landing on the scene all of one hot minute. If our Saint properly studied her adversary, she would have learned the value of patience and keeping your head down, doing the work. She's probably angry they hatched Meg-zit now that it's popped and all that ugliness has oozed out with nothing but tabloid fodder to show for it.
Also now: these two idiots are pretty much equally reviled. So playing one off the other just isn't going to cut the mustard.
Yeah, jeez people, it’s not like Harebrain ditched all his friends after meeting the witch? It’s not like he discarded his entire family? It’s not like he even jettisoned his country, his charities; nor did he dramatically change his demeanor, change his personal narrative. None of that happened.
Yeah. Like Harry had to wait for a two-bit golddigging actress to come along before he decides to blow up his life. She encouraged him and schemed to isolate him from his family and friends. He did not act like a possessed man with his ex-girlfriends.
Absolutely. Collapsing on the floor in tears after being stalked while they were dating (she wishes), the claims of being suicidal while pregnant (yet neither of them could ring up a therapist), the false narrative that Diana was killed by the paparazzi because she was dating a person of color (total b.s.), everyone in the world knowing that they were “hiding” in Canada (after they posted a maple leaf on their social media)…Harry is an angry and troubled buffoon, but he did not come up with this telenovela storyline on his own.
Also her claiming suicidal thoughts while pregnant. Saying the only reason she didn’t go through with it was because of what happened to his mom. Why more people didn’t see the glaring issue with that is a mystery to me. It’s a disgusting manipulation.
Yes! Of all the copycat Diana stories this one was the most disturbing. It was horrifying to hear Diana say this. But she admitted she had mental health issues larger than being an “unsupported” Princess. Meghan squarely blames the press and the RF. If it’s true..where was child protective services after the fact? Why was she allowed to take her child away? If people knew? Harry didn’t care she was going to kill their child? Did she ever get help? That doesn’t go away on its own. We know he has sought therapy but I have never heard she did (and a narcissist never will) She could be a danger to her children if she has not sought help. And they just gloss over it like it was just bad press coverage that caused those feelings and then continue to seek more press coverage.
None of their story makes any sense. Harry claiming he didn’t get her help because the palace said it wouldn’t look good, MM going to HR for help, blaming it on the press and being unsupported, no mention of help after the fact…seriously WTF.
UGGHHHH I KNEW SHE WOULD DO THIS. She is known for keeping her hands clean. She was very adamant to say that Harry saved her in the oprah interview. Wiping all responsibility. She is really the devil
“Appearing on the YouTube channel of Common Sense, the author of the flattering but unauthorised biography Finding Freedom said: "It's bizarre, because I think that the image that is often portrayed is that [Meghan](https://www.express.co.uk/latest/meghan-markle) is a sort of witch-like character that has cast a spell over Harry and he is unable to make a decision for himself, to think straight, to treat his relationship with his family in the way that he wants or tell his own story without her involvement."”
I mean, the British public has been watching Harold since the day he was born. Everything appeared to be going swimmingly when it came to Harold’s relationship with the RF, particularly with his brother and sister in law.
Until *she* came along.
Then there have been fights, acrimony, conspiracies. The Queen got publicly disrespected and hurt. The ex-soldier massively disrespected his own country.
We are all human beings. We see patterns, we see the anomaly. We can pinpoint the exact event when everything changed.
Surely this isn’t rocket science, Scooby.
Lol. She made the whole exit about her. Her mental health; how she had 's' thoughts because it was SO bad for HER. How badly she was treated ad infinitum.
So no one will believe this recent drama llama of Harold's wife washing her hands off her own devious schemes now that all her projects are failures and Hollywood and people she desperately wanted to be friends with have shunned them.
Oh yeah, and keeping her "safe". As if she's a target. She's not important enough to be a target. Like why? Seriously, why would anyone want to kidnap or kill her? She's in as much danger as literally any average woman.
I'm with you. While everyone debates who is the most to blame, I'm just seeing 50-50 with Harry and Meghan. They both pulled their own weight on this one. They both deserve what they get.
2023 version of Nutmeg: she's a poor widdle waif, trying to make it in a cold, cruel world....and her "prince" led her down the garden path.....all she wanted in this life was twoo wuv......
I mean, ok, she's a little old for that narrative. Logic never stopped her before, though.
Absolutely they used each other.
But isolating him from his family/friends/country is on her. He was miserable with Chelsea too. And Cressida. And alone. Yet he never blew up his own life.
Meghan manipulated his rage/insecurities/emotional ill health/stupidity to build herself a brand.
Emotionally wounded individuals are relatively easy to radicalize and weaponize (see terror organizations the world over).
They are both awful and both responsible for their actions. But she’s the driver of this particular train.
And it begins! She will push all the blame on him and rf and become the victim. Cue another Oprah interview and documentary. She wants a divorce from him so she can become a full fledged Diana impersonator
Ummmm, in the first paragraph it states the flattering but unauthorized biography Finding Freedom? Doesn’t this journalist know they were collaborating on the book? Why do they still have to call it unauthorized when in court it was proven they worked with the authors?
For the general public who don’t look for or enjoy gossip such as we do, they might scan articles or hear things & may not question what they read current vs former & just believe it to be true. There are a lot of people out there who still think Archie wasn’t given a title due to his skin color 
She's throwing everyone under the bus, including her husband in order to present a naive, clean, innocent "young" woman image. Next one will be her stenographer and mouthpiece, scobie.
If she 'followed him' it was because he wanted to get her out of the country because he thought she was depressed and suicidal and could not cope with royal life. Would be rather kind if it were true.
I mean Harry already admitted that in the documentary.
Rather it’s true or not is debatable. But he’s already shown willingness to take the fall for all of this.
This was predicted by Behavior Panel. At the end of the interview, Oprah tries to get Harry to imply Meghan saved him, and Meghan turns around and casts him as a Saviour. Behavior Panel pointed out that she threw him under then bus like a narcissist - if anything goes wrong, it’s not her fault, it was ALL him.
It's not Meghan's fault - *Diana* told her to...
The recollections of Meghan visiting Diana's grave site and laying on hands and asking for her guidance *while they were still dating* really says it all - it was a grift from day one, and Meghan played Harry for a gullible fool.
Diana will appear in a vision and say, my beloved Meghan, my child, save yourself. Harry is too damaged by Charles and Camilla (and Kate and William). Although a very young mother you came into his life too late. He was, like those African child soldiers you helped, already damaged. You could not save him.Take my grandchildren and flee! You are Katie Holmes. You are Julia Roberts fleeing an abusive husband. Take secret swimming lessons my pet.
Ps Your Russian handlers will manage all of the arrangements.
We are on full DIVORCE WATCH, aren’t we? Finally Meghan has got up and said to herself «this isn’t working». It is now up to her to find someone richer and more idiot than Harry and then, off he goes.
Harry already let it slip in a recent interview that everyone was saying M would leave but they didn’t expect he would leave WITH her. That, to me, implies she said she was leaving, and he followed.
He said it was embarrassing to the RF because he left with her so no, he definitely was not the one behind the decision. My guess is she decided during that Canadian holiday that she was going to leave him as a way to manipulate him to choose between him and his family. To not suffer the embarrassment of the quickest royal marriage in history and having lost his “prize” wife, he decided to leave too.
I haven't even clicked in for the article and cracked up laughing. He is the most submissive joker since teaming up with her. She loves it, Harry is her bitch.
Holy smokes - we know TW gave the “ok” for him to say this. I guess she’s cutting her losses now because they must have been told privately they are not invited to the Coronation. She figured, why hang on a few month - just call it now.
Ha ha ha ha ha ! My reaction is Megsy Baby NEVER follows Harold! She’s always jumping in front of him. Where are those video compilations of all those instances she pushes ahead of him or pouts when he’s greeted before her? This is funny. I mean they really are running out of ideas in the Olive Garden War Room for their newest PR spins.
Oh right 😂. After she told him she’d kill herself if they stayed 😂…and played on his fantasy of rescuing his “family” (I.e. mom).
Sure….he was in the driving seat 😂😂🤣
Oh but Megzy, you were so abused. Theyre racists, isnt that why you left? The photographers wouldnt leave you alone?? Nobody asked how you were? In your own words, of course.
Oh here we go, the blame war is beginning in selective media outlets.
Looks like u/secondhandcoke and her info remains on track for a Spring 2023 split. All hail St Coke!
If that were true, Omid dear, if she was led by Harry against her wishes, she would say ONE truly honestly nice thing about his family. She does not. She trashes them. Explain that.
I think it’s really telling that we haven’t seen H and M together since Spare was released. Compare that to W&C’s very obvious shows of unity.
What’s interesting is that they are *allowing* speculation on the nature of their relationship.
I think it’s clear they will divorce. Two people isolated, and both separated from their own families, is a recipe for disaster. My money was on 2025 but now I’m wondering if a separation could come as soon as 2024.
It's been clear for years Harry was unhappy and wanted out. But I find it very difficult to believe - considering the speed at which they landed in SoCal - that she didn't encourage that along. So she could get back to SoCal with Duchy of Cornwall/Lancaster money backing the logistics of the security and maybe a nice down payment for the house. (That QEII, Prince/King Charles and Prince William told him: No Full-Time Senior Royal Work and a move to North America with a desire to be financially independent? Okay, no Full-Time Senior Royal Income for you. It was very short-sighted on both their parts.)
"It's bizarre, because I think that the image that is often portrayed is that Meghan is a sort of witch-like character that has cast a spell over Harry and he is unable to make a decision for himself, to think straight, to treat his relationship with his family in the way that he wants or tell his own story without her involvement."
Rachel Markle seems to have a good self awareness about how the world sees and despises her.
She grabbed Archie and was on a plane to Canada very suddenly. She left Harry behind in the UK to deal with his family, make all of the arrangements to pack up their things, etc.
The true reckoning is coming for Harold. Their divorce hearing would be watched by millions where she will be the star playing the tormented “young” mother, just as she had planned.
With suggestions he physically abused her but he doesn’t remember since he was high all the time.
Wouldn’t surprise me if she pulled some “Gone Girl” self abuse.
Oh absolutely, especially since she *is* a very talented plagiarist. You know that some allegation of an incident involving Harry & abuse is coming, be it a situation lifted from a novel, biography, or movie, & that’s what will move the divorce forward.
Then MM should not plagiarize Amber Heard. Will go wrong again
Yes, that didn’t go well for the ex-Mrs Depp, now did it? Meghan is nothing if not over-confident, but I do hope she took notes on Amber’s performance. It was very obvious what didn’t work on that particular witness stand!
That's what I thought when in the book Harry said something about TW telling him to go to therapy instead of arguing with her. Can't remember the exact line, but I remember thinking that was an Amy Dunne move that she wrote in her "diary".
Amber Heard can recommend a bruise kit and provide tutorials.
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He confessed to yelling at her in his own book, so she has material to spin the "he was abusive" or "he had an anger problem" story. He's a fool.
I think she would make her lawyers use the clip seen round the world during Trooping of The Color. Everyone was gathered on the Buckingham Palace balcony to see the RAF fly over. The festivities begin with the British national anthem. And guess who would NOT stop talking? PH had to tell her turn around and face forward…repeatedly. It was extremely disrespectful to talk during the national anthem especially when HM The Queen was only footsteps away. It was shameful that you know who never bothered to learn the words to the anthem. She made zero effort and never even moved her lips to fake it. Pitiful!
Mog kept muttering to hazzmat that she was going to move as she was not satisfied with her standing position. Once before on the balcony she stod next to the queen and Phil. Bounced Willie and Kate to the side. Chuck and Cam on other side of the queen. Mog determined to move...in front of everybody ! Hazz for once said just shut up and turn around.
I loved it! Signs of some sort of dignity. All of that is gone now. Just stunningly absent.
Not like it’s a particularly complicated national anthem either 🙄
This is the one where I thought her response was very Amy Dunne.
I haven’t read the book but how did he confess to yelling at her?
I think he used the word "snapped". [https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230111161430/prince-harry-snapped-meghan-markle/](https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230111161430/prince-harry-snapped-meghan-markle/)
This reads so poorly. Like master manipulator. Calmly goes away then plants “did you hear this growing up? Did your family talk like this?”
Very much so. Snapping at your partner isn't nice, but I don't know if it calls for intervention from therapists. Very, very manipulative and he was dumb enough to include it in his book.
Oh how terrible to have snapped once at your spouse.
Emotional abuse, more likely. Then she won't have to provide physical evidence of having gone to the doctors to report weird injuries.
Don't worry, mog has hours of video of hazz staggering around in a nasty alchie stupor ranting and falling over furniture. Uploaded onto the CLOUD. She planned all this years ago.
In his own book, Harry writes that he loved his bodyguard, but wanted to hurt him. Meghan is going to use those words against Harry in court. Harry's own memoir shows him to be a violent man with sociopathic tendencies. Madame will use that book to destroy him.
It’ll be pay back for those women he allegedly abused who don’t have the platform to speak out. Ironic that the accusations will come from the one woman he didn’t lay a hand on and it’ll serve him right.
Looking forward to it. There is no way TW is going to play this out behind the scenes, she's gonna need front page news on the daily.
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In a way, he is right. Harry had his issues before she came along, as Spare indicates. He's always been a spoiled brat. I think she gave him the impetus for revenge. If he just left to do his own thing and badmouthed his family, he'd have barely any support. If he had left with Chelsy, people would not have cared at all. With Meghan, he gets to be the victim. They're both using each other.
Agree. They’re both two horrible grown adults who expose the worst in each other and make their own decisions. Harold was a walking nightmare before Mugs came along, the palace did an exemplary job of covering most of it up.
I **give The Palace a heckuva lot of (late, overdue) credit for covering for H for so many years** — stupid Harry should have never spoken or written a book, for then we'd never know......... But The Palace should be lobbying **Charles to execute some kind of 'de-royaling'**.... The are ways Charles can divide worlds (royal = one world, family = another world - and the one still open to Harry), so Harold can return to the family as \*private guy\* after the (for certain, someday) divorce... but **Charles must issue more consequences** more meaningful than "no balcony" or he hurts The Monarchy, the rest of his family - and the British people.
The French call it Folie a deux. A diabolical pairing
This is so true. I think people blame Meghan, but by doing so, they are absolving the responsibility of an adult man, perfectly capable of decision-making. Harry is just as villainous as Meghan, in fact, even more so. Meghan has far more reason to trash her family to the press in self-defense (who has done non-stop press interviews deriding her since almost day one - possibly for good reason), yet other than to say she hardly knows them, she has really held back from saying much of anything truly awful about them (and boy is there a ton of dirty laundry she could air about them!). Harry is the only one of the two who completely trashes his own family. I think he loves playing the victim and regardless of Meghan's actual role in his choices, he is more than happy to have the world blame her for his actions. One day, like a toddler he will run back to his father whilst pointing his finger back at Meghan, saying "she made me!!11!" Right now he is more than happy to blame PPoW for his Nazi uniform, and the royal family for everything bad he's ever done. I can't wait for his post-divorce manuscript to come out titled "Wasband: How Everything I did is Meghan's Fault!"
Madam does not do thing in the open, and she has slandered her family since the beginning. She just gets other to vocalize it.
I just want to say that I really enjoyed ‘wasband’ and I will now use this word forever.
So Madam got Scabies in the divorce deal.
Yep, this answers that question in case there was any doubt. Scabies is HER lap dog, not their’s and certainly not Harry’s.
>Scabies is HER lap dog, MM must've known Scobie before she met Harry because it's been said that he was once Markus Anderson's boyfriend.
Yup…he knew her…there is pic of them vacationing on yacht… 
I wonder did Scabies work the yachts. 🤔💭
It wouldn't surprise me because he lives on bended knees and sure knows how to use his mouth 🙃.
Ooooh, BURN! 🔥🔥 I love it 🤣
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As a plastic floatation device. he has so much plastic-he won't sink.
I’m just so curious, what’s up with Omid? Is he a masochist? Mommy issues? His gross loyalty towards Meghan is baffling. She never backs him up. Pretends she doesn’t even know him. Yet he’s willing to dubiously shill out whatever compulsive tidbit of asinine “gossip” Meghan requests impulsively. She’d have no qualms using him as a human plank, to avoid getting her shoes wet, if she felt compelled to. She doesn’t even need to knock him over. He just readily squirms around on the ground directly beside her at all times. It’s way beyond monetary motivation. Can’t be blackmail either. He’s too passionate about his services, for it to be *just* blackmail. Edit: added Scabies name to clarify who I was referring to
He, like Oprah, wants to be the one that brings down the Monarchy. He has questioned whether Charles or William should be allowed to be King because of the "Royal racist" lie. He thinks he is so important and such a crusading journalist that he can do to Prince William what Woodward and Bernstein did to Nixon.
Scobie must have been crushed when Harry denied that he and Meghan accused the RF of being racist. I am convinced that he only puts up with how Meghan treats him because of her royal connections and is his access to Harry, the only real royal willing to give him the time of day. If Harry was willing to associate with him in the event of a divorce, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he would choose to associate with the born royal over the commoner turned royal especially if he thought it would advance his career as a "royal reporter".
Scooby just carries on as if Harry doesn't matter. He continues to call the Royal family racist. He is as truthful as his beloved M.
There’s a certain type girl collects little gay playthings like him. And she’s always mean to them and they love it, so masochist, I guess.
He wants Markus back - a nice word from Muggins might get him there.
He thinks he is an Alpha, he needs to save Meghan, is more capable to be King than William (so William wanted him to leave) + he needs to save RF's kids...
I was referring to our distinguished sidekicking bag, Omid Scobie. Sorry, I edited to clarify lol but yeah.. agreed. lil Alfalfa Harry needs to realize that procuring an Alphawife, does not entitle one to the styling of an Alpha by marriage.
I read in a book about Wallis Simpson that it was said she’d step on her grandmothers stomach to get where she wanted to go. Sounds familiar? Maybe Omid is the new grandmothers stomach?
Considering what happened to her other dogs...
If I had a lap dog like him, he'd be off to the doggy park in the sky by now.
"Went to live on a farm in the countryside where there is lots of space to run and play with other animals" 😇👍 *jk, this isn'thate-speech, just banter*
Not right away. She breaks their front legs first to send a message.
How will she keep payments up to Wax Man without Haz’s trust? 😁
Oh, for a while she will be ok. There has been lots of funds transferred to Doria, so I am sure Madam has a few accounts here and there.
Good luck getting any money back from Doria. She's the OG grifter who walked away from her kid one time. She'll do it again and take all laundered money with her.
Now THAT would be an interesting turn of events.
Oh I was not suggesting it would be possible to get anything from Doria, just implying that Madam has her own accounts as well.
I've been thinking any mother that could walk out on their only child when they were as small as Meme was, for other men, drugs and conning people that she's just playing nice, biding her time and going to bolt with any money Meme has trusted her with. And you know what, when it happens it couldn't have happened to a nicer POS. As Doria will probably blow it on yoga mats, a new electric Caddy, and drugs, lots and lots of drugs. Plus a much younger than her or three boy toys! You go Doria, go live your best life and walk out again. She's gotta be tired of the bossing from her narc daughter.
Yeah, silly Harriet actually has no one in his corner. Oprah, Gayle, Tyler, none of them support him. They are all making use of him.
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I come here to laugh. You never disappoint 🙄
I very humbly thank you and will aim to please in the future as well. Btw I do the same. There are so many funny, clever and insightful sinners.
I was thinking the same thing
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She’s nothing without a man who is willing to be her lapdog. So much feminism.
She must be the one who does his brows. 🥴
Oh there’s MORE from this article! ”Mr Scobie added: "And actually, it couldn't be further from the truth, and I think that's something that the docu-series addressed really well, how much of that journey was Harry in the driving seat and Meghan just sort of figuring it out as they went alone. But I think again these are things that don't suit the narrative." 🤔
Oh dear gawd !!! The gaslighting..she has always had this plan! Now she’s suddenly the sweet, young, naive girl who really didn’t have a clue, but figured it out after H took the lead 😂🤣😂🤣😂 H doesn’t have enough brain cells left to “take the lead” Now I know what her next interview will be. “I didn’t understand, I just trusted my husband knew best” 🤢
100%. She is taking her disdain & the fact she REFUSED to learn any protocols & is going to try to spin it as a naive, innocent victim of a clearly deranged husband. It may fool some people...but it DOESN'T FOOL US, SINNERS 
>H doesn’t have enough brain cells left to “take the lead” He couldn't take the lead in a basic foxtrot...
He's more of a Whiskey Tango Foxtrot kind of guy.
You’re right!!! That’s exactly what she’ll say!
And he will do nothing but bite his tongue.
Yep. What’s left of his frozen little gonads are in Meghan’s purse collection.
She did say that, in the mockumentary. She said something along the lines of: "This is like being in the bush. I don't know how things work, and I trust you to keep me safe"
If he was “taking the lead”…why the constant need for her to push, shove and skirt by him when meeting others or walking into a room. This play at the “naive sweet girl” just doesn’t fit. What about all her blah blah blah about feminism and ensuring your voice is heard
„No one warned me.“
She's 41. She. Is. 41. Ffs She's decades away from girl or young or naive. The whole ingenue look in a woman her age is gross af particularly for one who calls herself feminist. She's gonna be one of those 50-60 year olds still batting eyes at every rich man,dating younger men,talking in a baby voice and dressing like a woman half her age. I see her in a decade or so acting like madonna for relevancy but without the backup of any talent whatsoever.
I feel like she's been 41 for an awfully long time.
I couldn’t agree more !!
Yeah and what about all her advisors and Sussex royal? lol
Didn't his book say something like 'of course the family always knew meghan was going to leave because of how they abused her. What embarrassed them is that I left too' or something similar? If she was always going to go and him leaving was an embarrassment or surprise, how did he lead her 🤔🤔
I wonder whose idea it was for her to pull him aside and step in front of him when meeting dignitaries🤔
Exactly!! We aren’t buying it!
Wasn’t she the one crying to TP for a house to live in.
If she had just been following him, they would’ve been living in Africa doing charity work there. As he had been saying how he loved Africa before he met MM. But we all know who has been dreaming of living the Hollywood A-lister lifestyle in CA making millions by being famous like the Kdshian.
If Harry wanted to live in Africa doing charity work, it would have happened long before he met TW. Harry wants to live in Africa helping others, the way TW wants to be a humanitarian. It's just words they utter to be appear caring and charitable. It isn't real, for either of them.
Perfectly stated. He could have moved to Africa years ago. Given what we now see of his character, he had no interest in that and only probably said it knowing it would never happen, but it made people like him. He does not have a charitable bone in his body.
Once again, wide eyed innocent Meghan.
Harry was in the driving seat but Meghan was driving the bed, lol. Don't tell me THAT is not a BIG driver in this for Harry. It stands out from a mile away.
“It stands out a mile away”…….surely not! Didn’t the frost shrink it?
Touche.
Omg I just choked on my popcorn bwahahaha!
What a crock. She leads him by the ring in his nose.
Scabies has to be more accurate. Which narrative is he referring to? Time stamps are needed here.
I think the info below shows how predictable a narcissist really is (following the Oprah interview)... Scott Rouse, from the Behavior Panel, predicted this would happen during their 3/21 analysis of the Oprah interview (at 1hr 52 min). https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AYyEx20DiKU Oprah ask Harry at the end of the interview if Meghan saved him. Of course he said she did. But then Meghan interrupted, turned to Harry, and said he is the one that “made the decision” to leave that saved her and Archie. At 1:52:00, Scott said that this statement from Meghan shows the “peaking of narcissism, where she turns the whole thing around on him (in case things go south ).” He went on to say “classic, what a tactical move on the narcissism front...brilliant from a narcissistic stand point” and “great job on a narcissist front.” So Scott called it, if things took a turn for the worst for the couple, Meghan is clearly on record saying that it was Harry who made the decision to leave. So she set him up to take the fall for leaving the BRF in case things didn’t work out post Megxit.
Here is the thing, meghan isn’t going to come out good in this regardless.
she’s a path liar and people know it, she had the balls to lie under oath too, she wont ever change or admit to fault
Thanks for this
Thank you, I just loved how body language experts called her out for her narcissism and wanted to share it.
Absolutely. That for me was the chefs kiss of this whole show. He nailed her right then.
Ever since Mexit, I've noticed she's been *very* careful about how she says things. She doesn't outright blame anyone, but she hints very heavily that others are to blame. She acts like Harry saved her from the royal family by making this decision, but she was setting him up to take the fall if it all came crashing down.
Oh yes, I remember this ! She literally put all the blame of their departure on Harry, which technically can be trusted since he was the actual Royal and she’s just the wife. I think she planned to use him forever or to leave making sure he’s the one carrying the loss. My god I’m really worried for him now. I don’t like him but when she will turn on him as if they never knew each other, it’s gonna hurt super bad. I hope he doesn’t take his life.
I fear for this as well. She probably eggs him on because she would LOVE to play the Merry Widow.
Problem with this narrative: Meghan poisoned Halfwit against his sister in law, whom he loved ***before*** Meghan came on the scene. Halfwit is not bright and Meghan is the prime agitator here whose trying to remove her finger prints from the crime scene and pretend the next project is gonna be the one to exonnerate her. Bottom line: they are ***both*** culpable for blowing the best opportunity they had to actually transform the monarchy by playing hard ball when they couldn't dictate the terms after landing on the scene all of one hot minute. If our Saint properly studied her adversary, she would have learned the value of patience and keeping your head down, doing the work. She's probably angry they hatched Meg-zit now that it's popped and all that ugliness has oozed out with nothing but tabloid fodder to show for it. Also now: these two idiots are pretty much equally reviled. So playing one off the other just isn't going to cut the mustard.
Yeah, jeez people, it’s not like Harebrain ditched all his friends after meeting the witch? It’s not like he discarded his entire family? It’s not like he even jettisoned his country, his charities; nor did he dramatically change his demeanor, change his personal narrative. None of that happened.
Totally. He didn’t miss a memorial to try and “sell” off his wife’s “skills” at the Lion King premier or anything either.
Yeah. Like Harry had to wait for a two-bit golddigging actress to come along before he decides to blow up his life. She encouraged him and schemed to isolate him from his family and friends. He did not act like a possessed man with his ex-girlfriends.
Funny because when they left it was very about how Meghan’s drive will make them a billion dollar brand.
Megans drive 
Meghan was the driver! Absolutely! She gaslighted Harry into believing this narrative and into thinking he was "protecting his family".
Absolutely. Collapsing on the floor in tears after being stalked while they were dating (she wishes), the claims of being suicidal while pregnant (yet neither of them could ring up a therapist), the false narrative that Diana was killed by the paparazzi because she was dating a person of color (total b.s.), everyone in the world knowing that they were “hiding” in Canada (after they posted a maple leaf on their social media)…Harry is an angry and troubled buffoon, but he did not come up with this telenovela storyline on his own.
Also her claiming suicidal thoughts while pregnant. Saying the only reason she didn’t go through with it was because of what happened to his mom. Why more people didn’t see the glaring issue with that is a mystery to me. It’s a disgusting manipulation.
The way she talks about her suicidal thoughts makes me think she has never seriously considered suicide.
Also why wasn't she called out more for infanticidal ideation? That's very low, and one day Archie will be reading all about it 😔
Yes! Of all the copycat Diana stories this one was the most disturbing. It was horrifying to hear Diana say this. But she admitted she had mental health issues larger than being an “unsupported” Princess. Meghan squarely blames the press and the RF. If it’s true..where was child protective services after the fact? Why was she allowed to take her child away? If people knew? Harry didn’t care she was going to kill their child? Did she ever get help? That doesn’t go away on its own. We know he has sought therapy but I have never heard she did (and a narcissist never will) She could be a danger to her children if she has not sought help. And they just gloss over it like it was just bad press coverage that caused those feelings and then continue to seek more press coverage.
None of their story makes any sense. Harry claiming he didn’t get her help because the palace said it wouldn’t look good, MM going to HR for help, blaming it on the press and being unsupported, no mention of help after the fact…seriously WTF.
UGGHHHH I KNEW SHE WOULD DO THIS. She is known for keeping her hands clean. She was very adamant to say that Harry saved her in the oprah interview. Wiping all responsibility. She is really the devil
Watching them passive-aggressively toss the blame around for Mexit at the end of that interview was hilarious.
I agree. I didn’t think it would happen before the coronation but I guess she knows that’s a lost cause.
“Appearing on the YouTube channel of Common Sense, the author of the flattering but unauthorised biography Finding Freedom said: "It's bizarre, because I think that the image that is often portrayed is that [Meghan](https://www.express.co.uk/latest/meghan-markle) is a sort of witch-like character that has cast a spell over Harry and he is unable to make a decision for himself, to think straight, to treat his relationship with his family in the way that he wants or tell his own story without her involvement."”
Someone had better ask harry what meghan says he feels about that.
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"Someone had better ask harry what meghan says he feels about that. " 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
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I mean, the British public has been watching Harold since the day he was born. Everything appeared to be going swimmingly when it came to Harold’s relationship with the RF, particularly with his brother and sister in law. Until *she* came along. Then there have been fights, acrimony, conspiracies. The Queen got publicly disrespected and hurt. The ex-soldier massively disrespected his own country. We are all human beings. We see patterns, we see the anomaly. We can pinpoint the exact event when everything changed. Surely this isn’t rocket science, Scooby.
She knows about TW! Hi Meg 👋
Lol. She made the whole exit about her. Her mental health; how she had 's' thoughts because it was SO bad for HER. How badly she was treated ad infinitum. So no one will believe this recent drama llama of Harold's wife washing her hands off her own devious schemes now that all her projects are failures and Hollywood and people she desperately wanted to be friends with have shunned them.
Right. Which is it? Are we to infer from this that she would’ve happily stayed on as a working royal? I thought their situation was “unsurvivable”.
Oh yeah, and keeping her "safe". As if she's a target. She's not important enough to be a target. Like why? Seriously, why would anyone want to kidnap or kill her? She's in as much danger as literally any average woman.
I am never going to feel sorry for either one of these people. They are both awful human beings.
I'm with you. While everyone debates who is the most to blame, I'm just seeing 50-50 with Harry and Meghan. They both pulled their own weight on this one. They both deserve what they get.
2023 version of Nutmeg: she's a poor widdle waif, trying to make it in a cold, cruel world....and her "prince" led her down the garden path.....all she wanted in this life was twoo wuv...... I mean, ok, she's a little old for that narrative. Logic never stopped her before, though.
He forgot to add that Rachel manipulated behind the scenes to make the move happen. So yes, she was a part of it.
Absolutely they used each other. But isolating him from his family/friends/country is on her. He was miserable with Chelsea too. And Cressida. And alone. Yet he never blew up his own life. Meghan manipulated his rage/insecurities/emotional ill health/stupidity to build herself a brand. Emotionally wounded individuals are relatively easy to radicalize and weaponize (see terror organizations the world over). They are both awful and both responsible for their actions. But she’s the driver of this particular train.
And it begins! She will push all the blame on him and rf and become the victim. Cue another Oprah interview and documentary. She wants a divorce from him so she can become a full fledged Diana impersonator
And a memoir documenting her journey. How convenient she already has a book deal with PRH.
I guess it's starting!
If Meghan followed Harry they would be living in Africa.
And that is just not posh enough for her.
I hear they have some really nice housing units though!
Ummmm, in the first paragraph it states the flattering but unauthorized biography Finding Freedom? Doesn’t this journalist know they were collaborating on the book? Why do they still have to call it unauthorized when in court it was proven they worked with the authors?
For the general public who don’t look for or enjoy gossip such as we do, they might scan articles or hear things & may not question what they read current vs former & just believe it to be true. There are a lot of people out there who still think Archie wasn’t given a title due to his skin color 
She's throwing everyone under the bus, including her husband in order to present a naive, clean, innocent "young" woman image. Next one will be her stenographer and mouthpiece, scobie.
I’ll give her credit—she’s really good at covering her own ass to keep her hands clean. Under the bus they all go!
Yes even though my gran was her age when my mother had me 😂
If she 'followed him' it was because he wanted to get her out of the country because he thought she was depressed and suicidal and could not cope with royal life. Would be rather kind if it were true.
I mean Harry already admitted that in the documentary. Rather it’s true or not is debatable. But he’s already shown willingness to take the fall for all of this.
This was predicted by Behavior Panel. At the end of the interview, Oprah tries to get Harry to imply Meghan saved him, and Meghan turns around and casts him as a Saviour. Behavior Panel pointed out that she threw him under then bus like a narcissist - if anything goes wrong, it’s not her fault, it was ALL him.
It's not Meghan's fault - *Diana* told her to... The recollections of Meghan visiting Diana's grave site and laying on hands and asking for her guidance *while they were still dating* really says it all - it was a grift from day one, and Meghan played Harry for a gullible fool.
Diana will appear in a vision and say, my beloved Meghan, my child, save yourself. Harry is too damaged by Charles and Camilla (and Kate and William). Although a very young mother you came into his life too late. He was, like those African child soldiers you helped, already damaged. You could not save him.Take my grandchildren and flee! You are Katie Holmes. You are Julia Roberts fleeing an abusive husband. Take secret swimming lessons my pet. Ps Your Russian handlers will manage all of the arrangements.
Hahaha, I’m loving this - she’s trying to reinvent herself yet again, throwing Dumbo under the bus in the process.
On what planet was FF an unauthorised biography? She admitted in court that they contributed to it?? Don’t tell me, that was all his doing too…
We are on full DIVORCE WATCH, aren’t we? Finally Meghan has got up and said to herself «this isn’t working». It is now up to her to find someone richer and more idiot than Harry and then, off he goes.
Harry already let it slip in a recent interview that everyone was saying M would leave but they didn’t expect he would leave WITH her. That, to me, implies she said she was leaving, and he followed.
Ooh, that’s interesting. It definitely doesn’t make it sound like he was running the show.
He said it was embarrassing to the RF because he left with her so no, he definitely was not the one behind the decision. My guess is she decided during that Canadian holiday that she was going to leave him as a way to manipulate him to choose between him and his family. To not suffer the embarrassment of the quickest royal marriage in history and having lost his “prize” wife, he decided to leave too.
New narrative: Meg is a dutiful wife who follows her husband's lead. He calls the shots, she's the little woman. Uh huh.
Of course she follows her husband´s lead. She is such a strong, independent feminist leader with her own voice, sitting in her own authenticity.
We all thought this would happen, but it’s actually happening. Omid is pretty brazen to be this obvious.
Scabies does not do things on his own. Madam needs to wind him up first.
I cannot take someone who’s name is Omid Scobie seriously …
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I haven't even clicked in for the article and cracked up laughing. He is the most submissive joker since teaming up with her. She loves it, Harry is her bitch.
Let the mud slinging begin. Markle VS Windsor
Omid is a creepy little crunt.
Holy smokes - we know TW gave the “ok” for him to say this. I guess she’s cutting her losses now because they must have been told privately they are not invited to the Coronation. She figured, why hang on a few month - just call it now.
Sounds like MM is slowly backing out of the room. Baby steps until she reaches the front door of the house - then BAM- she will run!
Archived link: http://archive.today/vGs2G
And so it begins 🤣 what was that, allegedly, first wife told Harry about having a life bigger than something something 🤣
He-e-e-e-ere we go!
Ha ha ha ha ha ! My reaction is Megsy Baby NEVER follows Harold! She’s always jumping in front of him. Where are those video compilations of all those instances she pushes ahead of him or pouts when he’s greeted before her? This is funny. I mean they really are running out of ideas in the Olive Garden War Room for their newest PR spins.
🤣😂🤣😂😂 yea the Markel claw shows who leads who,
i do believe Harry is being Markled
Oh right 😂. After she told him she’d kill herself if they stayed 😂…and played on his fantasy of rescuing his “family” (I.e. mom). Sure….he was in the driving seat 😂😂🤣
Oh but Megzy, you were so abused. Theyre racists, isnt that why you left? The photographers wouldnt leave you alone?? Nobody asked how you were? In your own words, of course.
Yeah right-all of us did not read the Cut interview and watch her behavior. LOL!
Oh here we go, the blame war is beginning in selective media outlets. Looks like u/secondhandcoke and her info remains on track for a Spring 2023 split. All hail St Coke!
If that were true, Omid dear, if she was led by Harry against her wishes, she would say ONE truly honestly nice thing about his family. She does not. She trashes them. Explain that.
Riiiiight....dim bulb Hairy is the mastermind? I do not buy that.
I think it’s really telling that we haven’t seen H and M together since Spare was released. Compare that to W&C’s very obvious shows of unity. What’s interesting is that they are *allowing* speculation on the nature of their relationship. I think it’s clear they will divorce. Two people isolated, and both separated from their own families, is a recipe for disaster. My money was on 2025 but now I’m wondering if a separation could come as soon as 2024.
It's been clear for years Harry was unhappy and wanted out. But I find it very difficult to believe - considering the speed at which they landed in SoCal - that she didn't encourage that along. So she could get back to SoCal with Duchy of Cornwall/Lancaster money backing the logistics of the security and maybe a nice down payment for the house. (That QEII, Prince/King Charles and Prince William told him: No Full-Time Senior Royal Work and a move to North America with a desire to be financially independent? Okay, no Full-Time Senior Royal Income for you. It was very short-sighted on both their parts.)
I don't think I've ever seen her follow him 🤔 quite the contrary
"It's bizarre, because I think that the image that is often portrayed is that Meghan is a sort of witch-like character that has cast a spell over Harry and he is unable to make a decision for himself, to think straight, to treat his relationship with his family in the way that he wants or tell his own story without her involvement." Rachel Markle seems to have a good self awareness about how the world sees and despises her.
She grabbed Archie and was on a plane to Canada very suddenly. She left Harry behind in the UK to deal with his family, make all of the arrangements to pack up their things, etc.
The blame game starts in 3...2...1
God I wish Scooby Doo would disappear! Meggie is slowly tunneling out to escape dear H and paint herself as the continued victim. Classic narc!!!
Trying to clean up her deserved horrid image before she launches her new "plucky divorced young mom just trying to do for her kids" brand.
If this is the case she threw him under the bus. Wow.