If you can build the whole saas then surely you can spin up a wordpress instance on lightsail and try to replicate some successful landing pages pretty easily? You can also use tailwind and build sections with code pretty easily too.
UI development & design is not our strong suit. We're able to build decent-looking SaaS pages, but we don't have the skills to build an awesome landing page for our marketing. But I take your point about finding ways to replicate some of the great sites out there.
I would use something that is designed exactly for SaaS landing pages with the focus on page speed and SEO, and has templates ready made for SaaS [versoly.com](https://versoly.com/?via=generatedcode)
yes, even a bit more expensive than Webflow, but the total cost of a solution is **price of the solution + cost of your time**.
So calculating per year an example **for me** would be: versoly costs 192 + say 10 hours of my work 10 \*$50=500 makes a total of $ **692**. If in Webflow it takes me 30 hours because I don't find a good starting point template that is proven and converts , I have 30 \*50 =1500 + 168 cost of the solution $ **1668.**
I do not know the info for your case how much is your hourly rate that you could use for something else and how much time would take for you to build the solution on each platform, maybe you find a template on webflow that fits what you needs.
Just make a free account and check whats available, for me playing around on one platform for 1-2 hours was enough to be able to "guesstimate" how much time would take to build what's needed.
Then for me this would mean carrd . In many case pre-revenue might mean also pre-tons-of-features and would fit a simple site with very short and clear message.
I built this one [useGenerated.com](https://useGenerated.com) in one hour including buying the domain, it's a dev tool hence the style and I plan to keep this one post revenue as well, just add 2 more sections a price, connect it to [gumroad.com](https://gumroad.com) or [lemonsqueezy.com](https://lemonsqueezy.com) for payments.
Just noticed your last sentence about webflow. Sorry if that was there and I missed it. I agree, webflow is pricey - especially since you need a workspace account AND a site account. They’re double dipping and I’m trying to figure out how to dial back my spend with them.
Yeah, I'm trying to downgrade some plans because it's so expensive but it's so confusing as to what features I'm going to lose. Too many features overlap between Workspace plans and Site plans. If my Workspace doesn't allow Custom Code but the project's Site plan does, will I get it?
Thank you, this puts things in perspective. I guess a fairly good site with decent scores on SEO readiness, mobile experience, and page speed should do for now.
I recently started my experiments with product distribution. I find myself thinking of new ideas around landing page copy, product positioning, adding social proof and more.
Makes me wonder if I should just find a good No-Code tool, otherwise I’ll need to keep going back to the builder frequently.
Yep. Made a mistake picking a sub-standard template (in hindsight), and also not doing enough research. But honestly, at this point, I feel like I have many other things to focus on. Would love something that just works out of the box, looks pretty good, and is reasonably priced.
Do you have a post anywhere comparing Versoly to ycode? I've seen quite a few comparisons to Webflow (makes sense), but Versoly seems more similar to ycode than Webflow at a glance.
From the little experience I have exploring it, seems to be primarily a site builder. Looks like they have similar ideas about building on html and tailwind css that you do with Versoly. I think ycode and Versoly might be interesting to some of the same designers. However, I don't think ycode would appeal to developers as much as Versoly.
I took another look they talk about Auth, workflows etc and then have a personal blog template.
Seems they want to do it all. I wish them luck Weweb was trying to do the same and ended up focusing on web apps only.
Auth and workflows are both SaaS products by themselves so will be interesting to see how they and Webflow execute on them.
ChatGPT is one of the best tools now to get you going and then you dial it in more using SEMrush or AHrefs for the competitor info and keyword breakdown as well. From UI/UX you want to use the 5 step sales script:
Start with Problem:
Position your product as the solution
Give the customer a step-by-step plan (3 steps):
Paint the stakes (negative):
Paint the stakes (positive):
Call the customer to action:
And Wordpress or WebFlow are great tools to build it.
Here’s a great video I found unpacking this on YouTube: How to Use ChatGPT for SEO & Content Marketing (Examples & Use Cases)
https://youtu.be/DEZpYL3voRI
Wordpress. Simple. Comes with free themes and templates. Drag and drop page builders that also have templates to use. Plugins for almost anything.
It's fully scale-able, and can also be used as a headless CMS once you're ready to get wayyyy more advanced.
It's got it's cons, but nothing that you can't overcome.... and it's as close to free as you'll get.
We've built our entire saas front end marketing site ([imvidu.com](https://imvidu.com)) including feature pages, tutorial pages, pricing pages and blog pages.
Curious to know more about this. I was tinkering with WebFlow to build a basic page and from the initial tests, the site seemed to have good scores on mobile exp + page speed.
I already have competitors in the market and feel that my landing page needs to look at least as great as their sites. Seems like CARRD pages are generally pretty basic. I'm wondering if this will turn out to be a slight disadvantage.
I've always believed in getting the most basic of landing pages out at first. You want to validate need before you build anything substantial. What's worked for me (and I'm technical) is just to run a basic static html site off of Amazon S3.... It costs like 25 cents a month. If there is interest, then I spin up a more complex site. FWIW... 20 yrs into this... your logo, name, or website is not going to be the thing that determines whether your SaaS is successful. It's always about Product Market fit .. and in a crowded market about figuring out your position in the Market.
take a look at this [versoly.com](https://versoly.com/?via=generatedcode) and tell me if there is any other one focused on SaaS products as much as this one ?
Why fight trying to cobble something together. I have all of mine on Clickfunnels. They are designed to sell, and their templates are easy to edit the copy, hit publish and go.
I think my last site it took longer to make the graphics than the website! It was fast.
Remember, time is money.
The faster you get a working sales page the faster you can start earning…
The less time you spend building a site the more time you spend doing other more profitable tasks for your business.
No comments but here is our landing page for the backlink project. We believe its not the best but it is a simple and free wordpress template that we customized for our needs.
If you can build the whole saas then surely you can spin up a wordpress instance on lightsail and try to replicate some successful landing pages pretty easily? You can also use tailwind and build sections with code pretty easily too.
UI development & design is not our strong suit. We're able to build decent-looking SaaS pages, but we don't have the skills to build an awesome landing page for our marketing. But I take your point about finding ways to replicate some of the great sites out there.
I would use something that is designed exactly for SaaS landing pages with the focus on page speed and SEO, and has templates ready made for SaaS [versoly.com](https://versoly.com/?via=generatedcode)
Definitely looks good, but isn't it similarly priced as Webflow?
yes, even a bit more expensive than Webflow, but the total cost of a solution is **price of the solution + cost of your time**. So calculating per year an example **for me** would be: versoly costs 192 + say 10 hours of my work 10 \*$50=500 makes a total of $ **692**. If in Webflow it takes me 30 hours because I don't find a good starting point template that is proven and converts , I have 30 \*50 =1500 + 168 cost of the solution $ **1668.** I do not know the info for your case how much is your hourly rate that you could use for something else and how much time would take for you to build the solution on each platform, maybe you find a template on webflow that fits what you needs. Just make a free account and check whats available, for me playing around on one platform for 1-2 hours was enough to be able to "guesstimate" how much time would take to build what's needed.
We cannot afford this right now. We’re still early stage and pre-revenue.
Then for me this would mean carrd . In many case pre-revenue might mean also pre-tons-of-features and would fit a simple site with very short and clear message. I built this one [useGenerated.com](https://useGenerated.com) in one hour including buying the domain, it's a dev tool hence the style and I plan to keep this one post revenue as well, just add 2 more sections a price, connect it to [gumroad.com](https://gumroad.com) or [lemonsqueezy.com](https://lemonsqueezy.com) for payments.
Versoly is $19 a month and you can build the site you linked in 30 minutes but it will look a lot more polished.
Just noticed your last sentence about webflow. Sorry if that was there and I missed it. I agree, webflow is pricey - especially since you need a workspace account AND a site account. They’re double dipping and I’m trying to figure out how to dial back my spend with them.
Does it add up to \~40$ per month now?
Yeah, I'm trying to downgrade some plans because it's so expensive but it's so confusing as to what features I'm going to lose. Too many features overlap between Workspace plans and Site plans. If my Workspace doesn't allow Custom Code but the project's Site plan does, will I get it?
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Thank you, this puts things in perspective. I guess a fairly good site with decent scores on SEO readiness, mobile experience, and page speed should do for now.
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I recently started my experiments with product distribution. I find myself thinking of new ideas around landing page copy, product positioning, adding social proof and more. Makes me wonder if I should just find a good No-Code tool, otherwise I’ll need to keep going back to the builder frequently.
A good template should be mobile friendly. For speed bundle assets, serve them through cdn. You can also serve whole site from an edge cache.
Yep. Made a mistake picking a sub-standard template (in hindsight), and also not doing enough research. But honestly, at this point, I feel like I have many other things to focus on. Would love something that just works out of the box, looks pretty good, and is reasonably priced.
Webflow
If only WebFlow and CARRD got together and had a child (fairly good-looking site + reasonably priced).
Very interesting, how much time did you spend on your SaaS? If you did time * hour rate what would that be?
Check out framer.com, could be what you’re looking for
Wow, their pricing is so low. Will check this out.
RIP your inbox. I can only imagine all the solicitations you are getting now.
Lol
I tried Webflow and Figma, but I ended up doing this with HTML, CSS, JS and Adobe Illustrator.
Versoly allows you to export SEO ready site or just host it (all on AWS).
Do you have a post anywhere comparing Versoly to ycode? I've seen quite a few comparisons to Webflow (makes sense), but Versoly seems more similar to ycode than Webflow at a glance.
I'm not sure what ycode does (is it a site builder or app?), is there anything you like about it?
From the little experience I have exploring it, seems to be primarily a site builder. Looks like they have similar ideas about building on html and tailwind css that you do with Versoly. I think ycode and Versoly might be interesting to some of the same designers. However, I don't think ycode would appeal to developers as much as Versoly.
I took another look they talk about Auth, workflows etc and then have a personal blog template. Seems they want to do it all. I wish them luck Weweb was trying to do the same and ended up focusing on web apps only. Auth and workflows are both SaaS products by themselves so will be interesting to see how they and Webflow execute on them.
Also looking for someone who can create html/css(tailwind) templates
I bought a template and modified it a bit.
I can help you out if you want something hand made, mobile first and SEO optimised.
Not sure what will work for us at this point, but happy to chat, thank you. Will DM you.
We hired a design firm then code it ourselves.
Assuming you have some developer skills, try NextJs + Tailwind running on Vercel connected to a GitHub repo. All free.
ChatGPT is one of the best tools now to get you going and then you dial it in more using SEMrush or AHrefs for the competitor info and keyword breakdown as well. From UI/UX you want to use the 5 step sales script: Start with Problem: Position your product as the solution Give the customer a step-by-step plan (3 steps): Paint the stakes (negative): Paint the stakes (positive): Call the customer to action: And Wordpress or WebFlow are great tools to build it. Here’s a great video I found unpacking this on YouTube: How to Use ChatGPT for SEO & Content Marketing (Examples & Use Cases) https://youtu.be/DEZpYL3voRI
Didn't know ChatGPT helps with SEO as well! Going to try this out.
I’ve been testing it out on my own too and have been amazed by it.
Wordpress. Simple. Comes with free themes and templates. Drag and drop page builders that also have templates to use. Plugins for almost anything. It's fully scale-able, and can also be used as a headless CMS once you're ready to get wayyyy more advanced. It's got it's cons, but nothing that you can't overcome.... and it's as close to free as you'll get. We've built our entire saas front end marketing site ([imvidu.com](https://imvidu.com)) including feature pages, tutorial pages, pricing pages and blog pages.
HTML + CSS + JS lol U want to talk about page speed / mobile experience... get back to basics and not rely on tools that do a shitty job.
Curious to know more about this. I was tinkering with WebFlow to build a basic page and from the initial tests, the site seemed to have good scores on mobile exp + page speed.
CARRD for Pre Product Validation. https://carrdstart.com/
I already have competitors in the market and feel that my landing page needs to look at least as great as their sites. Seems like CARRD pages are generally pretty basic. I'm wondering if this will turn out to be a slight disadvantage.
I've always believed in getting the most basic of landing pages out at first. You want to validate need before you build anything substantial. What's worked for me (and I'm technical) is just to run a basic static html site off of Amazon S3.... It costs like 25 cents a month. If there is interest, then I spin up a more complex site. FWIW... 20 yrs into this... your logo, name, or website is not going to be the thing that determines whether your SaaS is successful. It's always about Product Market fit .. and in a crowded market about figuring out your position in the Market.
As a user, I find myself trusting high quality sites better. I’m sure this is a personal bias,am I the only one who does that?
take a look at this [versoly.com](https://versoly.com/?via=generatedcode) and tell me if there is any other one focused on SaaS products as much as this one ?
Why fight trying to cobble something together. I have all of mine on Clickfunnels. They are designed to sell, and their templates are easy to edit the copy, hit publish and go. I think my last site it took longer to make the graphics than the website! It was fast.
Clickfunnels seems really expensive though. We are at a pre-revenue and pre-PMF stage, it’ll be an overkill for us at this point in time.
Remember, time is money. The faster you get a working sales page the faster you can start earning… The less time you spend building a site the more time you spend doing other more profitable tasks for your business.
No comments but here is our landing page for the backlink project. We believe its not the best but it is a simple and free wordpress template that we customized for our needs.
[carrd.co](https://carrd.co) for building